Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 317 | Reigniting Pride in America | Guest: Burgess Owens

Episode Date: October 23, 2020

Burgess Owens, former NFL player and current GOP candidate for Utah's 4th Congressional District in the 2020 election, joins the show to discuss his values and what he believes is best for America. Owens provides his perspective on race, shaped by personal experience, and explains why it's so important to get leftist ideas out of the education system. Today's Sponsors: Built Bar: Go to BuiltBar.com and use promo code 'RELATABLE' for a discounted first order. Boll & Branch: Use promo code 'ALLIE' at BollAndBranch.com for $50 off any sheet set. Today's Links: Burgess Owens' website: https://www.burgess4utah.com/ -- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.

We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. I hope everyone is having a wonderful day. Today, I have the opportunity to talk to a congressional candidate from Utah, Burgess Owens. And we are going to talk about what America needs, the real problems that are facing our country right now and how here.

plans to bring us together and to move us forward in a direction that's good for everyone, no matter what side of the aisle that you are on. So without further ado, here is Mr. Burgess Owens. Mr. Owens, thank you so much for joining me. Allie. I'm looking forward to this for sure. Absolutely. Yes. So tell us how the campaign is going. Campaign is going well. We have a lot of energy here. I think across the country, we've come to that point, Alley, where the gray is gone. And you have good. people from both sides of the aisle just saying, you know what, we want to make sure we don't lose this culture, this great country that we've had so much hope in.

Yeah. And so the message I'm giving right now is that we literally have a chance to have conversations that we the people do best with. And we do that, we can pull away from the darkness that we now see across our country, the divisiveness, the anger. It's no question this is the best time for Americans to come together and have great conversation about how to make sure we hold on to our future. And in your opinion, what is causing a lot of this division that seem to really start and get worse under President Obama and has just kind of exploded over the past few years and few months?

What's underneath all of that, do you think? This has been happening. What we're now seeing is something that's been kind of been working against us for decades. And this is, I think, why the election of our president in 2016 was such a remarkable miracle for us. because this has been going on. We've had little termites. And I call them termites. These are folks who don't like our country.

They're radical left. They stand against every one of the tenants that make our country great. They stand against education. They stand about faith. They stand against the idea of capitalism and free market. And they stand against the traditional family that we've always believed has made us such a unique and great country. So we now see, because our president's pulling back the curtain, what's been going after us for

quite a while. And I think what's happening is that they're getting a little bit of frantic. They realize how close they came to power, particularly through the Obama years. We had eight years in which they literally was, I'm going to use a football analogy, on a 20-yard line, they figure they can go ahead, sprint into the end zone and get out and take over our country. But we have a president who we elected, who's another football analogy, a great linebacker for us. Yeah. But actually is stopping it from doing that. And now the way the people are waking up, we're going to actually, again, vote against everything that they've been trying to do for us. And I think it's now that we see this last year, we understand now what we're up against.

And we the people just don't like it. So we're going to go in different direction. I feel very confident about that. Tell us a little bit about your story. Have you always been a conservative? Have you always been interested in getting involved in politics? Well, first of all, I've always been a conservative, but it wasn't until Ronald Reagan came along that I became a Republican. I grew up in a community, and I like to tell people this, Allie, because the narrative has been because the left has control our educational system for decades, that the black community has been a hapless, hopeless race that was oppressed for 100 years by white people, and that's not the case.

We represent all the other communities, cultures come to this country during a time where assimilation wasn't quite as rampant as today, whether it be the Jewish community, the German community, the Irish community, we turn within to make sure that we were doing the very best. We were living the American dream. And so we have in the 40s, 50s, and 60s, which many Americans do not understand or have not been taught, the black community was the most competitive minority in our country. We led the country in the 40s, 50s, and 60s, in the growth in the middle class, men matriclade from college, men committed to marriage because we have such a Christian faith-based community.

And the percentage of entrepreneurs, we had over 40% of black Americans that were entrepreneurs, which actually translated the 50 to 60% of us being part of the middle class. So that was community I grew up in the 60s, very proud. And therefore, when I talk about what we're capable of and what's happened to us, it's not hypothetical. As a young man, I know what it is to have around me this segregation and KKK and Jim Crow laws for the community of men and women that were so proud of who they were, so focused and committed to their families and their kids that they were going to overcome all obstacles, which they did.

Unfortunately, we've seen the last 60 years something that's turned us upside down. And, Allie, to be honest with you, it has not been white supremacists that it undid what we were doing. That was our greatest enemy. It was black elitist. Those who look like me, talk like me, but vote for every single anti-black policy that the left puts on their plate, whether it be education, whether it be life, whether it be job, opportunities, everything that the black leaders have done to destroy my community is now what we're seeing crossable with other leaders trying to destroy our country. So I'm standing very strong.

I've never thought about being in politics. But my dream since I left NFL back in 83 was to work with at-risk kids. And I was able to finally do that out here with an organization that has founded called Second Chance for Youth. And I realized about a year or so ago that the kids I work with here in Utah and the millions of kids across the country that's just looking for a second chance do not have chance as long as the Democrats hold on to the House because it's all about policies. It's been about the viciousness we have, the anger, the hopelessness that we see in every single blue city is about policies. And so once we change the policies and give people hope, like President Trump did the last three years.

Give this a mind. I can't emphasize this enough for those who have not heard this. The last three years, we have the lowest unemployment in the history of our country for blacks, Hispanics, Asian, women, veterans. We had a 400% increase in black business ownership, which to me says everything. Because business ownership, small businesses, is where is the engine that powers our middle class. So we've had success. We're now seen because of that success, black cameras across the country are waking up.

They're doing what I did 30 plus years ago. They're running off this plantation, a Democratic plantation. And we're going to be part of American people across the board, every background and culture, for every faith. that says enough is enough. We want our country back. We're tired of the stealth, the divisiveness, the anger that's brought on by the leftists. We're not going to stand for it, and we can come together and just win, baby.

A little bit before your time, but Al Davis, Raiders used to have this slogan, just win, baby. And that's what America's going to do as we move into the next four years. Hey, this is Steve Deast. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself.

On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this Steve Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts.

you'll join us. Why do you think there are people, in particular on the left, who don't want to win? They especially, in particular for the black community, it seems, they want to ignore everything that you've said, just the economic success that not only the black community saw, black Americans saw in the mid-century, but also have seen over the past three years and say, no, no, no, white supremacy is actually your biggest enemy and the, you have been oppressed and you. You have been oppressed, you've been pushed down, and the only way that you'll ever get picked back up is through the Democratic Party, through critical race theory, and Black Lives Matter, what is behind that? Like, why is there a force telling Black Americans that if, according to you, that's just not true?

Well, the question is stated correctly. It's a force. We have to understand what's made our country so unique and why history is so important for us. We're a country based on Judeo-Christian values. In other words, we're a country based on the fact that we have godly principles. that we do our very best to adhere to. That's why every single generation gets better and better seeing each other inside out versus outside in.

I grew up in a time in the 60s where race was everything. We got past that because we as a nation continue to get better because we believe there's a God in heaven that we just want to be blessed by him. So we have the other side, which is an ideology based on godlessness, godlessness, called socialism, Marxism, communism, they're responsible over 100 million deaths,

the 1900s because it's an ideology that forces, that demeans, that destroys anyone who does not believe in them. So what we're looking at now is not something that's new. We've been at this fight for a long, long time. We've just now we have a president who kind of pull back the curtains for us because he doesn't care about being liked by the left. He doesn't care about power or money. He wants a country to move forward.

So he's doing things that no other president has done in our history. I mean, ever since I say since Reagan, Reagan, to me. me was a president who truly went against the grain because he could care less about that inner circle there in D.C. We have a president today who's showing us what true American-loving leadership looks like. And what I'm, Ali, what I'm excited about is I'm just one of many candidates out there. This district I'm running in, by the way, it's between one and four, a must-have both sides. We must have it to get back our country and our culture. The left must have to keep their chaos and their power. But across the country, there's about 20-23,

other candidates that feel the same way I do. And I promise the Americans who listen to this program, wherever you are, make sure we get the House back. And I can assure you that you'll be so proud of this new team coming in because we're not there to be career politicians or lobbyists. We're there to save our nation to replicate a president, to put some more backbone in our Senate, and to get our country going back to where our kids truly love our nation

And the educational system that we've been, that's coming at us for the last six, seven decades, we're going to get rid of these. We're not going to pay anymore for these colleges to take our children and have them go through it and indoctrinated, coming out hating our nation, being little Marxists. We're enough, enough of that. We want to make sure that we're paying for any institution that gives us a great product. And our great product are kids who come out with a belief themselves, a belief in our country, of pride in being an American and moving toward to make sure that their patriotism is more important than their probability.

That's the way that we have to change the way we're thinking, and then this new Congress can get that done. So I hope everybody supports across the board, our country and our president, to give us a chance to get that done. Yeah, I think that it would be a huge step in the right direction if the curriculum in our public school system simply reflected the truth. There's nothing wrong with learning about the bad parts of American history. every history has, you know, sins and flaws in times that we have not lived up to our ideals. And I think it's good for people to learn about that. I feel like I learned about that growing up for sure. But this kind of philosophy in the school of thought that's driving academia and a lot of public

education that says America is endemically, systemically bad, and you actually have to hate your country in order to be a good person. Like you said, it's creating little Marxists and people who are just perpetually, not just offended, but resentful and malicious and hateful and sad and miserable. And I think that's what we see, unfortunately, taking root in some of the biggest Democratic cities in the country. Would you agree? It's taking place across our board now, because this is the way these people think.

Again, it's an ideologist, an intergenerational ideology. Just like Judeo-Christian values we hold on to, a past one generation to the next, the same thing with the enemy that we're going up against. And it was Karl Marx in 1800s said very simply, the first battleground is rewriting of history. We have to understand what happens when our history is stolen from us. Like the history, the black community's history has been stolen from us. What happens is without a history, we have no pride in our past,

we have no appreciation of what we are and how far we've come, we have no vision of where we can become because we have nothing to reflect upon. So, yes, we have had, just like, just like, because we're un-in-perfect people, we will always be make people make mistakes. There will always be people that are on both sides of the aisle, evil and not in good. But in the end of the gate, we've had a country that's done the very best because we have a constitution based on the idea of we the people, you need to communicate, and the fact that all men are created, all those kind of concepts that came from a God in heaven, give us at least a

a North Pole to go toward. So, yes, what we're up against, the people who just have. I've tried to demean that and teach a totally different ideology. We have to stand up against it and get rid of all these racist concepts, which has us judging each other from outside and not inside out. President Trump was, he was dragged through the mud after the Tuesday debate. All the headlines said that he has, he refused to denounce white supremacy. And of course, the media have been calling him a racist, you know, since 2015.

what's your reaction to all that? Well, first of all, when you have no God, there has no shame. And these guys are really good at repeating something so often that a lie becomes a truth to so many people. It's called indoctrination. It's the same indoctrination that goes into our colleges. Now we have people, these kids graduating and going out and burning our streets because they have no idea what is to build anything because they're angry. So, no, the idea that we have a president who's giving black Americans the opportunity to live the American dream that I look forward to seeing. for 60, 50 years now. I've been so frustrated with the promises. So the true races are those who

continue to use race as a card. Those who continue to look at our outside as if we could be judged or we should vote in a certain way based on our color. Those are the true races. The ones that are seeing past the race are those who put together, like President Trump, putting together policies. And it should not be black, white, Hispanic policies. There's policies that help all Americans. And that's why we had such a great lift in our nation in terms of employment, getting rid of unemployment, getting rid of people getting on welfare. So I would say this for those who are wondering about the messaging, let's turn off. If you feel depressed down, turn it off. We need to be a hopeful nation and we're going to find out from certain stations.

We're not going to ever get hopefulness in this, during this phase because anything that's good is not talked about, anything that's bad. bad that they can bring up, they love to talk about. So let's we the people have a conversation. I can say this one thing, Ellie. Democrats, independents and Republicans, the greatest strength we have is the ability to talk together. We might not agree on how to get there, but we have the same endgame which will make sure our country is greater for ourselves and our kids, more hopeful. Let's have these conversations. And let's not let the left divide us. The most powerful three words in the history of mankind, or those three words, we, the people.

When we talk, when we have conversations, when we can agree to disagree, we move ourselves forward in a way that our country becomes greater. And as we're not talking, as we counsel each other out, as we beat people up because they don't agree with us, that's the left winning. They do not want us to do that. They don't want us to have conversations. They do not want us to have harmony. So let's continue to talk, guys.

And this last year is a great opportunity for us to have conversations about our faith, about our businesses, about our kids going to school, because we have one side to try to shut it all down. And the other side is saying, let's get back to normal. Let's live our American dream. Go for life living a pursuit of happiness. We need to make sure we're voting for that, that side that gives us light and hope. Joe Biden has said that he is going to be the one to kind of bring us all together. He is trying to paint this optimistic picture of his presidency and say that, you know, he's the representation of normalcy and being the adult in the room and he's going to make everyone's life better. Do you think there's anything behind his promises?

I could answer by just saying this. Come on, man. That's how he likes to answer, right? Come on, man. No, Joe has proven for 47 years. He's a professional politician who's been self-centered, who has ripped off our nation, allowed his son to travel around the world becoming wealthy, his brother become wealthy, on our dime.

And I tell you, we need to have people that are principal, that love our nation, above themselves, and not sell us out because they want to get their fame and fortune. And I think the biggest thing, which is sad to see, this is what's happening with professional politicians. They don't know when to stop. They don't know when to retire. They love power so much that we have a guy who cannot think past tomorrow that's literally trying to run our country,

and we have people around him that allows us to happen. These are folks who care less about our future, about how well we can compete against China and Russia and all the other places. they want power so much that they have a guy who literally cannot think past tomorrow's conversation because he can't remember or last yesterday's conversation. So we have to recognize what we're up against. So let's make sure we get someone who understands how to fight to fight for us big time and have the energy to do it. And in particular to your race, what do you see as the biggest issue when you're out there talking to voters?

What are they most concerned about and what do they most care about? You know, it's interesting because the things that Americans care about are the same, same tenets that allows us to literally be within one generation away from being part of the middle class. It's really simple in terms of what conservatives is all about, what our founders try to make happen is education. We should make sure our kids can think. They're confident in themselves. They can have conversations without being angry because they know they can win the argument.

So education is so important. And that's what they've been taken, the left have been taken away from. us. The idea of having our faith. When we cannot believe as a God in heaven that's there to help us overcome those obstacles that allows us to look at each other again from inside out, not outside in. Faith is key, and the left would love to take away our faith. The fact of capitalism, compassionate capitalism is where those who have faith who want to serve and they want to make enough incomes they can pursue their dreams. Capitalism is everything. That's what's made our country, what it is, the greatest middle class in the history of the world,

because we have the idea of free market. In the family unit, a family that says this, we grow up teaching men to boys to be boys, not girls, and girls will be girls, not boys. It's an important concept. And we have to recognize that that family structure of mom and dad fighting to have developed a safe place to those kids, they not only grow up

and feel comfortable about themselves, but be proud of that name that they wanna hold on to and pass to their grandkids or their kids. It's a simple concept, in a family unit, getting it right, having men do what they're supposed to do to protect, provide, and partner up with their wives to give good leadership, and mothers giving the greatest gift they can give to our country,

compassion, love, service, those things that makes us the greatest nation because we have a great heart. It comes to that, that power of motherhood. So once we get that together, those concepts, that's what Utah wants. That's what Utah has fought to have, and we have a candidate that's voted 85% against everything I just talked about because he's a Pelosi guy.

And that's what we don't want here. If he wants to be Pelosi guy, go to San Francisco, Go to New York, but not Utah. So we're going to continue to fight for our values here, for sure. You know, I'm really encouraged hearing you talk about the importance of faith in God and understanding where our rights come from and who our helper is and who our ultimate provider is and also the structure of the family and the scientific and right and moral way to view gender because what I've seen, unfortunately, in some segments of the Republican Party that is represented in D.C.

is a discomfort with talking about what they consider social issues. They don't want to talk about the controversial things that you just talked about because, oh, they think that's going to, you know, send the rage mob after them or going to polarize people. But what I'm hearing you saying, what I believe, too, is that you really can't talk about economic issues without talking about the spiritual family cultural issues as well. Would you agree with that?

Absolutely. And to the point, remember that I just, talked about earlier about this great community I grew up in, that was a reality. It was a reality because of those things I just highlighted a few minutes ago. And if we're going to win our country back, which we will. We need to have courageous Americans who do not care about what other people think, but we care more about what's right, care about their kids and our future. And the fact is it's now time for us to man up and women up. We are now at a point at a crossroad where we're fighting for our culture, we're fighting for our nation, we're fighting for our kids' future.

If we don't have the courage to stand for them, then who have we become? We're not whiners, witties, and wimps. That's what happens when you start going to the left, become whiners, winnings, and whims. So let's make sure that we stand for those things that made our country great. Be proud of those who came before us. They weren't perfect, but neither are we. They did the best they could at the time they came through. And they gave us a gift, a country that's free, that allows us to have these kind of conversations,

that I can, as a black man the day, run for president if I want to, run a business, any business I want to, go to any movie thing I want to, that 50 years ago, 60 years ago I could not have done. So we need to be proud of the progress is made. And for those who want to divide us, look at them and see if they're happy with what they're doing. If they're unhappy people, if you lean on them and you go in their direction, guess what? You will be an unhappy person too. We need to be a hopeful and enthusiastic, excited and appreciative nation of all those who paid the price. So we have the freedom we have the day to move forward. And let's fight for it. We fight for it very simply.

not by going the street and beating up for people with bricks and sticks. We go by going to that booth and it's pulling for hope and freedom. That's a Republican Party right now. This makes sure the Republican Party owns the House, the Senate and the presidency, and I can promise you, we're going to see a renaissance the next four years that Americans have never thought they can see in their lifetime. People coming together, people winning again, getting jobs, having education for their kids, take care of DACA, take care of Social Security,

all the things that's been out there that the leftist, the elitist on both sides have laid out there because they want misery as a political strategy. We're done with that. America's now need to move forward. Let's move toward the light guys. That's what we do best. Collectively, let's just win, baby, and get this thing done with so we can make sure our country is a great place to pass on to our kids.

Right. Well, if you create misery and resentment, then you can present yourself as the savior from those things. If you create problems, you present yourselves as the solution. I think that's what Democrats have done really effectively. They actually create problems with their, you know, with their government programs. And then they present themselves as a solution to those problems, not saying that they are actually the ones that created the problems in the first place. And obviously, that's a lot of manipulation that's worked well for the Democratic Party. It's sounding like you are trying to push back against that and expose that. And to stop the cycle that a lot of communities in this country have found themselves in for decades. And, And it's very encouraging to hear your message of hope and optimism. And I certainly hope that all the things that you're talking about come true. It would be good for both sides of America, whether we agree or not. Can I say this, Alley?

At the end of the day, we're looking at those who know what it is to build. What the Democratic Party has done, and you look at every city that they control, you don't see building. You see destruction. You see hopelessness. You say anger. If you want to see where systemic racism truly is, go to every. single blue city in our nation, and you see where black people, or not only the death

rates are so high, abortion rates are so high, employment rates are so high. This is where misery is you find in an abundance. So it's kind of rich that it can tell us now, it's kind of rich they can tell us now how to come out of this when they have never understood how to build and come out of anything that they have been able to control. So let's look at the misery that's in these blue states. Blue Cities, Chicago, Ferguson, Baltimore, all these Portland, and just know, this is what the left does. Yeah.

They are, they use destruction, they use misery, and then they tell us that they can some kind of, some kind of way get us out of misery. And they can't do it if they've never built that way. So this is a good opportunity for us. The gray is gone. There's good and there's evil. There's dark. There's light. Let's move toward the light collectively like we've always done.

to show another miracle in 2020 like we did in 2016. And I tell you, again, my friends out there, this will be a remarkable four years. Just trust us on this process. We now know how the left works. Let's give conservatism a good shot at it. Yeah. And we can see what we'll do with this, I'm sure.

And we say, you know, Democrat, independent or Republican, hop on board with us towards that better future. We don't, like you've said so well, we don't have to agree on everything. You don't have to be a Republican to see that optimistic vision of the future where we all are unified under particular principles. So it really is, even though you are a Republican, kind of a nonpartisan message.

And I just want people to hear that, that we're seeing everyone come on board, no matter what letter is after your name. So I really appreciate that. Can you tell everyone how they can support you and where they can follow you? Absolutely. Go to Burgess for the number four, Utah.com,

and you can see everything you need, including facts right now. The Pelosi Pack is throwing millions of dollars, $45 million at negatives. The facts can be there. And I can say the alley, you just mentioned it. And I'm going to wrap it with this. This is the country of we the people.

We thrive in having different conversations and different ways of going at things, but we have the same end game. Let's Democrats, Independence, and Republicans. Let's come together at this time and talk about what makes our country better for business ownership, for faith, for family. And I tell you, we'll find out we're not each other's enemy.

It's the hard left, the ones who hate everything we're talking about. So let's come together with the people and let's make sure we move out country forward to a much, much better place for our kids and we're going to be okay. I'm very excited about that opportunity to do so. Yes. Well, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to me. I know everyone is going to enjoy this conversation. God bless you. I encourage everyone who is listening to this podcast watching on YouTube to not only support you and follow you, but also pray for you. We need to pray for everyone who is on the front lines of this, everyone who is running with the same kind of message

that you are proffering right now. So again, thank you so much. for taking the time amid your busy schedule and for everything that you're fighting for. Allie, thank you so much. You're right. We're going to make this thing happen. We're the people always have. I'm going to grab it with one last three words. Do it.

We do what Al Davis says years ago with the Raiders. Just win, baby. That's what we do best. So let's get it done, guys. I love it. I love it. Thank you so much. Thanks.

Okay. You take care. Hey, this is Steve Daste. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true. about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day

and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty

over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this Steve Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join. us.