Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 334 | Presidential Election Aftermath & the Importance of Georgia | Guest: Stu Burguiere

Episode Date: December 4, 2020

Stu Burguiere, host of Stu Does America, joins to discuss the chaotic situation still unfolding with the 2020 presidential election. Stu gives his take on the fraud allegations and what to expect in the coming weeks. Does Trump still have a path to victory? We also discuss the importance of the Georgia Senate runoffs and why you definitely need to vote if you live there. -- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Friday. Hope everyone has had a wonderful week. Today I'm going to be talking to Stu Bragear of Blaze TV about the fraud allegations and where we think this election is headed. If anywhere, we're going to be talking about Georgia and some of the lawsuits that are going on there. Before we get into the conversation, I would love to make a request to you guys. If you love this show, it would mean so much to me if you would leave a five-star review on, Apple Podcasts. It really helps us out a lot. You don't have to put a lengthy reason for why you love the show, although that does mean a lot to me. But if you could just give us a five-star review, that really does help out relatable. Thank you guys so much for listening. All of your

encouragement and support. I do this exclusively, well, exclusively for the glory of God. That is my goal and my desire anyway. But I love learning with you guys and talking with you guys and this show with and for you guys. So thank you so much for listening and thank you for your support without any further ado. Here is Stu Bergier. Stu, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. Appreciate it. So today we're going to talk about the allegations of fraud that have been going on in the election. You've been following this closely. You've been talking a lot about it on Glenn's show, on your own show. Can you give us the most up-to-date update that you have on the last.

litigation on the hearings that involve the accusations of fraud in different states. Yeah, sure. I mean, it's a very challenging proposition for the Trump campaign. And they've been trying to go after, because it's not just one state where they need to overturn multiple states to actually make a difference. I think we can look at all of this and say there definitely was fraud at some level. I mean, there definitely were things that were weird. There were things that were against the rules that were done.

The question is... Like, what are some of those things? You know, a lot of it had to do with observers. So in some ways, it can be encouraging to look at it this way. And you see how many fail safes there are in the election process. Like, they're supposed to be Republicans and Democrats there to watch all these votes. So when there's questionable ballots, someone can look at, you know, from each side and say, yes, we agree. That was a vote for Trump.

Yes, we agree with that was a vote for Trump. And it goes through the process in that way. A lot of it had to do with the way Republican poll watchers were treated. observers were treated poorly they were mocked at times everything from mocking to not being you know they're able to uh watch the process but they're watching it from from 20 feet away yeah where they can't see any of the details of the ballots and often the excuse was well COVID I mean you know and where was where was that happening uh it happened in uh Pennsylvania it was again this is what was accused right Michigan was it was they was talked about a lot in those states that particular

question. You know, there's questions about ballots that would be cured or not. So the idea is, like, if, let's say you cast a ballot, there's a problem with it. Can the government call you up and say, hey, you checked three boxes for president? This ballot's not going to count. Do you want to fix this? That is a process. That's pretty rare, but does happen. What did not happen in every county in Pennsylvania, though. So some people, if you lived in one county, you were not able to do that. If you lived in another county, you were. And the county, you were. And the county, counties where they were allowing the curing of the ballots seem to be Democratic counties. Again, small number of votes, but something that should be looked at.

And I think that's why you kind of have to look at all of these accusations in sort of two different buckets. One is, if you could look back to that press conference from a couple of weeks ago, Rudy Giuliani was making a lot of claims of that nature, right? But there would be people who said, this doesn't look right or this rule may have been bent, but it was smaller numbers of ballots. wouldn't necessarily overturn the election, but still really important to look at. On the other side, you had kind of the Sidney Powell approach, which was to accuse, make accusations of widespread systemic fraud, multiple millions of votes switching sides from one to another. And you saw kind of less evidence to those claims, but those would be the types of claims that could potentially overturn the result, or at least from where we understand it right now. And does it seem like the Trump team, and Cindy Powell, who's not technically part of the Trump team, but is fighting this battle in a different way,

Do they seem confident that not only there was fraud, obviously they're pretty confident in that, but that it is enough to be decisive in this election? Yeah, that's the big question, right? And what's been interesting about it is a lot of the focus on social media and talk shows and stuff has been like, are you supporting the president? Or are you staying on board and questioning these results? Right. And I keep saying to people, look, we can't social media this election into existence. We can't talk show a second term for Donald Trump. We're not going to be able to do it on those fronts.

This has to happen in the courts. And so we've talked to all of the main attorneys in these cases, many other people who have been used as witnesses, other people who have been involved in this process. And very consistently throughout, they've communicated to us two things. One, that they have enough evidence to be able to overturn the election results. And two, they understand the time constraints and we'll be able to prove it in court. and to me, if you are looking for this to be overturned, that should give you the ultimate amount of confidence. They are telling us 100% they're going to do it, and they're going to do it with the restrictions they know exist. Now, we are now several weeks later, and this is a difficult

thing. It's asking a lot of these attorneys to be able to do this. And, you know, one of the things I think you can be a little worried about if you're looking for that result is this, if you believe the sort of Sidney Powell approach where you're talking about multiple millions of votes in a system that is so impossibly corrupt. Especially in somewhere like Georgia, right? Like that's where she's focusing. She's saying the Dominion voting systems

are basically corruptor. They didn't work. And she argues that they turned over millions of votes, correct? Millions of votes over multiple states. If you have a system like that, it's hard to imagine that system is going to allow you to overturn the results when you question it.

Right. I mean, you're talking about a system that's so ingrained with corruption in that circumstance that it would be a really heavy lift for these attorneys to do that. They have expressed confidence, but obviously, this time is running out. I think it's December 9th where these kind of the electoral votes sort of kind of get locked and then on the 14th they become official. So you're talking about a little bit over, you know, what a week in that circumstance. You know, it's tough. The Dominion thing is a very, it's in some ways unfalsifiable. You can't really, you're never going to know for sure it didn't happen. I know we talked to Barry Loudermilke. He's a congressman from Georgia. And he's worked very hard over the past few years on election law and trying to make sure that these things, there is some level of security. So the Dominion machines they have in Georgia have a couple of functions to them. You go in, you press your button for your candidate, it spits out a paper ballot.

You as the voter look at that paper ballot and you are able to confirm that it actually cast the vote the way that you believe it did, you then put it through the system. And there's a paper ballot record of all of this. So that's when they did this paper ballot recount. And so there is a layer there that hopefully gets you some sort of certainty. When they went through and collected those votes, they found some votes for Donald Trump. I mean, it was eight or 900 or maybe a thousand votes. There was a few thousand that were not counted. really glad they found them. It wasn't quite enough in a close state like Georgia to overturn the number,

but at least they had that paper ballot record. In Pennsylvania, there are some Dominion machines as well. But they were not in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh, which were the two main areas. They were talking about this fraud occurring. And actually Trump did better than expected in Philadelphia. In the counties where Donald, where they used dominion voting machines in Pennsylvania, Trump won 52% of the vote. So he actually won those counties.

It's tough because, you know, there's a lot of layers to this, but it's like Republicans overall did actually pretty well in the election. So there's those two sort of buckets where like the Sydney Powell stuff, and you've seen the Trump administration and the campaign distanced themselves from Powell and some of the claims that they're making because they're sort of widespread. And some of them, I mean, some of them are provably not true. Some of them are just unfalsifiable so you never will know. where Giuliani has tried to focus more on these things where you have actual witnesses and depositions,

it's just a question of, is that going to be enough to turn over anything? Yeah, which I support the pursuit of truth and election integrity, even if it's not decisive. But I have been surprised just at the amount of confidence that it seems like a lot of people have that it will be decisive, that what Sidney Powell is doing in Georgia, for example, is going to change the results of the election, at least, at least there and that this is going to be proven a systemic widespread problem and that Donald Trump really will become the president. I said a few weeks ago, my husband and I went to Georgia to visit family. I said, you know, this seems different.

I used to live in Georgia. My husband grew up in Georgia, obviously it's been a pretty red state. But we drove from the northwest to the northeast. We were in Atlanta. And I thought this feels blue. This looks blue. And rural places in Georgia where you don't expect to see Biden signs, there were Biden Kamala signs. Where we were was a blue area.

And we knew that. And so that was expected. But it was even more than typical. I mean, there were BLM signs. There were, you know, defund the police movements there. And even in the rural areas around that, there were a lot of Biden signs. And that was just a feeling. But I said that on election night that I wouldn't be surprised if Georgia went blue.

And I got all this hate on Twitter. I'm saying, you know, where did you go? That's so crazy. And so when it looked like Georgia, you know, was going blue, I wasn't surprised. Now, I'm not saying that my anecdote is definitive proof that there wasn't fraud in Georgia. But I'm not so surprised that I'm going to say this has to be cheating in order for Georgia to go blue. Because it seemed likely to me just for my own personal experience. Yeah. And look, I'm totally with you that the fraud stuff needs to be looked into. And we need to know, like even if we find, out that millions of votes switched hands, we probably don't really have a country anymore. Like our election system is so out of whack and it's going to be difficult to maintain a republic in that scenario. But I still want to know the truth. Right. I want to know the truth either way.

But I mean, what actually wound up happening in the recorded vote is not all that far out of line as to what we kind of expected to happen when looking at polling. You know, you point out Georgia, and I remember you saying that on election night. And it's true. I mean, it's, look, this has been a purple state for the last couple of elections. Kemp barely won. You know, Stacey Abrams almost won that election. Yeah, she was kind of radical for a Democrat.

She wasn't, you know, like just a moderate Democrat. Yeah, that's true. And we've seen that, we've seen Georgia moving in a big way. Yeah. And this has been predicted for a long time. Now, I think we get resistant to those things because they say it about Texas, too, right? And Texas was a relatively comfortable margin, a bigger margin than cruise over Beto. So a lot of these times, these things, the media likes to hype that narrative.

Right. But it seems to be pretty real in Georgia. You know, you look at Pennsylvania again, and I used to live in Pennsylvania in Buck's County, which is a suburb of Philadelphia. And a lot of people talked about sort of the potential fraud about Philadelphia, where actually Trump did better than he did in 2016 in Philadelphia. But the entire margin of that election, as recorded today, is more than compensated for in the switch in votes in these suburbs.

counties. White suburban counties moved not in not intensely, but enough against Trump in these counties to to change the actual result. I mean, you know, I think 38 states have been certified so far. And you look at that 38 states and you see a really consistent pattern, about a three and a half point move from 2016 to 2020 from Trump to, you know, Trump versus Clinton to Trump versus Biden to go to the Democrats. Trump actually did better in swing states than the average in most cases. Georgia was an exception to that, but in Pennsylvania. In fact, his best state in the entire union outside of Utah, which was kind of weird because

of third party situation in 2016, was Florida, which is one of the most important swing states. He did really well in Florida and actually improved on his margins from 2016 there. So you don't see anything that at the end of the day would look that abysalibus. normal as to what was expected. Trump outperformed his polls a little bit in most places. But at the end of the day, you're talking about an election that was really freaking close. And Trump almost won as recorded vote. Again, we'll talk about that other fraud stuff as we go.

But it's like he came really close in an impossible situation in the middle of a pandemic, in the middle of a, you know, a very, very visceral media against him for four years. He was able to do really well and kept it very close. It's a very close election. And he did really well among minority voters, which of course, Democrats would have said, well, we have those in the bag. And I actually watched Joe Biden's campaign. I felt like, you know, if I weren't a conservative, I would have been the target of a lot of Joe Biden's campaign

because they were really working hard to reach out to that white suburban mom, to reach out to the evangelical Christian, and to say this is the normal candidate, the faith-filled candidate, the candidate that is going to bring decency back into your life and back into the White House, which I think appealed to people like me if you're maybe politically apathetic or in the middle or even maybe if you're a little bit politically conservative, but you're just tired of Trump being bombastic. And we actually saw Trump actually gained among white women, but he lost among white men. He lost a few percentage points among evangelicals, certainly among mainline Protestants, which are liberal in general. And so when you look at where Trump lost and where Trump gained, you see a pretty clear parallel between that and the focus of Joe Biden's campaign.

Joe Biden won the demographics that they worked really hard to get, which were white Christians. They didn't win those completely. Trump still had most evangelicals in the bag. So that's another reason to me why it's not unbelievable to me that Joe Biden won by the margin that he's. he did. Yeah, I think I look, I think that's really reasonable, right? And I think, uh, you look, a lot of people hammer the polls that polls get at beatings no matter what happens, I think, uh, you know, I like looking at polls. It does not give you an exact result, but it gives you a general sense. And you know, I look through the, you know, we did a prediction

on my show, student as America on, uh, you know, a couple days before election night. And we came up with 306 electoral votes for Joe Biden, which is what he's, what he has right now, unless something changes. It was not out of the realm of possibilities of what could happen there. I think, you know, part of the reason, and I talked to my wife, Lisa, about this, and she's a really big Trump supporter and was really surprised by that it could even be close, right? Because, you know, we live in Texas, and, you know, it's a pretty red area. I think, though, to the average person, you know, the country as a whole was never meant to be this focused on the president, right? Like, this is America. We don't have a king. We left.

The whole British thing because we didn't like the king situation. And that's not to say that Trump ruled as a king at all. But he's been more involved in our daily lives than any other political figure probably in our memory. Right. And part of that is because the media is totally unfair to him. So commonly, everything he says turns into a massive news story. And that is not Donald Trump's fault. On the other hand, he also really likes being the center of attention.

And he likes inserting himself into a lot of these. things. So there's a, there's a, there's a, just like we're tired of like COVID restrictions and we're tired of these things that invade our lives all the time, Donald Trump is a huge part of our life. He creates a lot of, a lot of anger from the left, a lot of passion on the right. You know, I, my, you know, my wife has broken off long-term friendships over this. You know, this is, this has been, we've become a very political society where it's, it's become a real part of our lives. And I think a lot of times, and I know you talk about this on the show, it overwhelms even things that are supposed to be more important, like faith, like principles.

So I think there was a pushback on that. And if you think about Donald Trump's coalition from 2016, it included a lot of Democrats, right? He was able to win over a lot of Democrats in 2016 that were not inherently Republican voters. He won people who would not normally vote for Republicans. So when Hillary went away and And, you know, Trump had four years of some things he did, I think, really well, but there was a lot of chaos in that period. A lot of those Democrats who last time were like, you know what, I'm going to, this one time in my life, I'm going to vote for a Republican. And plus they didn't like Hillary. And they hated Hillary. Yeah.

They didn't hate Biden. Yeah. You know, they didn't feel that way about Biden. Maybe they didn't love Biden. Right. But they also didn't hate Biden. Like, people are like, I can't believe 80 million people could have vote for Joe Biden. Right.

Nobody voted for Joe Biden. They all just voted against Trump. Yeah. This was a one person election. And there was a lot of passion against Trump. I mean, they were lighten cities on fire. We remember this about this type of thing. So it's, it is, it's tough to kind of settle with here because I think it's,

it's hard to imagine that people want that sort of AOC Ilan Omar world. I don't think they do. Right. But they also kind of push back against some of these chaotic elements. And I think that's how we kind of got to where we are. And I think they don't realize. And Joe Biden's campaign did a good job of making sure of this, that they don't realize that even with a Biden presidency,

that is probably what they're going to get in a lot of ways. It's probably not going to be as quick or as radical or as quick. radical as say a Bernie Sanders presidency would be, but you're going to have a lot of far-left progressives making moves within the Biden administration and not to be a conspiracy theorist, but it seems to me that the DNC knew exactly what you just said, that this is going to be a one-person election and all we have to do is put up basically a cardboard cut out of a person, as boring as possible. Because we've got to get some of those moderate people. We got to get some of those moderate Democrats back. We got to get those people who might be conservative but just want

normalcy. So they knew they could not put Bernie Sanders up against him. And isn't it rare for someone, I think Joe Biden came forth in the Iowa caucus. Is that correct? Yeah, I'm trying to remember. He didn't do well in the primaries for a long time. And everyone was like, wow. He went to South Carolina. Yeah, Joe Biden's, he's not going to win. And then all of a sudden, he was the nominee. And amidst COVID confusion, it was like there wasn't. even like a DNC. It was just like, oh, okay. No more elections.

Yeah. And we thought that Bernie Sanders was doing well. So I don't want to say that the primaries were rigged against Bernie Sanders. But it certainly seems like there was an intention by the Democratic Party to do exactly what you just said to say, look, we just need as boring of a guy as possible. And Joe Biden, Joe Biden is that, don't you think? Yes. I mean, they like, they got Joe Biden as the number. I mean, and there was, I think, a bunch of reasons for that.

I think there is enough awareness among Democrats that Bernie Sanders is not what America wants right now. Right now. They want that eventually. Yeah. But I just don't think they think America is ready to elect Bernie Sanders as president. So they got Joe Biden. And their treatment after that point was exactly what they should have done. If you are a strategist for the Democrats, what you want to say is make people forget anyone

is running for president right now other than Donald Trump. Make this into a situation where people walk in and say, do you want Donald Trump or not? Yeah. That's what they wanted. And the way they achieved that was by hiding Joe Biden for six months. Yeah. And they, look, they had the perfect excuse with COVID. He can't go outside.

I'm sorry, can't do any rallies, can't go on television. Why can't he go on television from his house? I don't understand. But you realize every time he was making speeches, he was messing up and he was hurting himself. They just did what they could. They called a lid every day at 11 o'clock. and didn't let anyone see Joe. And it's like the best Joe Biden is the one you forget exists is really their pattern.

And it was probably a smart strategy in the end. You know, Trump, we saw that in the first debate with Trump, where he was trying to be aggressive, aggressive, aggressive. And what America needed to see was, hey, there's this other guy that you should not be sure about, you know? And I think you saw him improve that strategy in the second debate, but it may have been a little too late. And Democrats capitalized on the chaos that is already.

going on, the instability that we all feel from COVID, whether you're someone who takes it seriously or not, your life has been upended probably in one way or another, at least been interfered with by the bureaucrats making the regulations allegedly due to COVID. And people really longed and still long for normalcy and stability. And I think that Joe Biden, even though you and I know that he isn't really the representation of that. He presented himself as that. And Joe Biden or and Donald Trump, I think, in that first debate, thought that people wanted the opposite of Joe Biden in the sense that they wanted someone who's going to be aggressive and loud and boisterous. And I think most Americans are like, dude, I'm tired. I'm tired. Like a lot of people felt like Joe Biden did. Like, I feel like I can't even put, you know, sentences together either. And so, yeah, I think that maybe Trump miscarriage. calculated that, but to your wife's point, to Lisa's point about being surprised that this happened. I mean, to be fair, there is reason for people to be skeptical about the election, even if it's

just a feeling that they have based on things that Democrats have done and said. I mean, you alluded to this. They have done absolutely everything possible to try to discredit Donald Trump, even when he does something well. They he has laid, or the media has laid every single COVID death at his feet and hasn't, you know, criticize Governor Cuomo or anyone else like that. Everything that he says becomes a scandal. The Pennsylvania AG before the election said, if every vote is counted, Donald Trump is going to lose our state. I mean, we saw that they would do a Russian collusion. They would do impeachment. We saw what they did with Kavanaugh. They are willing to go to any length whatsoever to win. And so for some people,

they're like, well, why, like, what exactly is the moral standard that that would stop Democrats from cheating? Absolutely none. And so I think a lot of people are thinking of it that way. And then also they see the Biden rallies that had like two people in their cars, like, waving their flag from a distance. And they see Donald Trump with thousands and thousands of people. And so, you know, there is a reason for people to be skeptical about this stuff.

Oh, it feels weird. I mean, you know, one of the things, I think. think that's interesting about this election, and I don't think I can ever remember seeing it in my lifetime, is there's always been a situation where the enthusiasm meant something, right? Enthusiasm was always a meaningful thing. You'd look at Barack Obama in 2008. Right? Barack Obama in 2008 is out there. He's got these huge crowds. They're absolutely going crazy. And it meant something. It meant something towards the result. 2016, Donald Trump, his polls, he was a little bit behind in the polls, right? But people felt it.

You watched the rallies. You saw people going crazy. And so we apply that sort of previous knowledge to this current situation. I think the thing that's a little different here, and I think what we kind of forget is, one, there was part of that that was a strategy by Democrats, right? They could go pay a bunch of people to come and act excited at their rallies that they really wanted a lot of people. They were trying to be the adults in the room about COVID, right? So they were in, and that was their excuse. The real thing was they didn't want Joe Biden in front of people.

But the bottom line is they intentionally kind of avoided the rallies. That's not to say that they would have been anything like Trump rallies. They wouldn't have been. They would have been sleep snor fests. And when they tried to do it, they weren't particularly successful. But the passion, the enthusiasm here, the gap in enthusiasm was not between, you can't compare Trump's enthusiasm to Biden. There is no comparison.

But you can compare Trump's. enthusiasm for Trump against the enthusiasm against Trump. And they really hate this guy, right? They will do anything. They sat there and lied on television about him for four straight years. They did everything they could to unseat him. They gave away all journalistic standards to try to sink this guy for four consecutive years. And I think there were a lot of people who saw him as Satan himself, right?

and they really did come out. I made the joke about they were burning cities to the ground over this guy. They really were. They were out there rioting and so much of the George Floyd stuff and all of those riots at the time was brought back to not even police, but Donald Trump himself. Everything was Trump's fault. So so many in our society, and we know we see them all the time on Twitter and everything else, were maniacally crazy against this guy.

They wanted him out. And so you really go back to, there were tons of people who really supported him and saw what he was trying to do as something good for the country. But, you know, look, you face four straight years of constant media pressure. Everyone kind of saying the same thing on television. You know, not everybody's here listening to a podcast, a long-form discussion like we're doing here. A lot of people are watching, you know, the Kardashians or whatever the more updated reference is. I don't even know if that shows on anymore. But like people don't live this like maybe the people in your audience do.

Yeah. And, you know, they make, a lot of them make decisions based on kind of what their friends think and who their, what their peer group is thinking. And the pop culture thing, all celebrities and all that stuff, we're all saying the same thing that Donald Trump was the worst person on earth. So I think when you, it doesn't feel that way. And I, and people kind of go, well, should I have questions about this election? I think that's totally understandable and reasonable to have those questions.

And you should. Like you should ask questions. Totally. And like we were both saying, I think we support the pursuit of the truth, even if it's not decisive. I want that kind of thing to be uncovered. I want us to have the highest integrity in our elections, whether Democrats win or whether Republicans win, just because I think that's important. And I thought at the very beginning of the Russian investigation, when we didn't know very much, I thought the same thing. I said, let's investigate. Of course, then as it went on, it was like, oh my gosh, this is a lot of taxpayer dollars for a lot of nothing. But I thought the same thing. Okay, my guy is getting investigated. I want to know if it's true. I want to know if the president of the United States colluded with Russia to become the president. And I want to know this too. It doesn't seem, though, that that kind of curiosity and desire for integrity is nonpartisan among a lot of people, though. Yeah, I don't think you're going to see any of the same questions being asked about Biden. And then there are legitimate questions to be asked about Biden. And I'm kind of of the, of the mindset of like, let's look at the worst case scenario here. I'm kind of, I'm a very negative

person. But like, I look at this and I say, if let's say Cindy Powell's lawsuits all come through and Trump goes back into office, that's easy for us to adjust to. Right. Yeah. That's cake. Right. Like, okay, Trump's in there again. We've already, we've already had four years of that. Four more years. Hey, our taxes are low for four more years. That's going to be something I'm going to have no problem adjusting to. I don't want to let Joe Biden walk into office in January if he winds up, if this stuff doesn't pan out, with no criticism, with no one looking at, he's just naming people to cabinet posts left and right. And, you know, the conservative media largely is kind of just shrugging their shoulders and letting him do whatever he wants as, you know,

he marches towards Washington. And like, I feel like we have to guard those things, or there will be no scrutiny from the mainstream media audience. So I don't know. That's the way I'm trying to look at it. It's like I would love, everyone would love the best case scenario. But you've got to plan for the worst. And we have to look at this and say, you know, they've got a week left to try to prove this. And, you know, if it's true, I want it to be out there.

But we have to look at it and say, okay, well, let's focus on, let's look at that. We're not going to be able to change that on social media. Let them do their jobs in court. They should have their right to do that. And then we'll look at the other stuff as well. And that's how I feel. And a lot of people have accused me and accused a lot of other people of giving up the fight of not being a true patriot, of not supporting Donald Trump. But I kind of feel like there's nothing I can do. I support them in their pursuit of the truth. And I want the truth to come out. And if it's decisive, that will come as a shock to me. That'll be amazing. I want Donald Trump to be president for four more years. Of course I do. I think policy-wise, he has done a lot of good things. And when I look at the threat of China, when I look at the people that Joe Biden has named, cabinet positions, the swampiest of swampy people in the entire world. I'm like, oh my gosh, do we really want John Kerry in charge of anything? So I want that. When I look at the threats

that we are facing, I think that Donald Trump is the man for the job, but I am not going to delude myself into thinking that that it has a high probability. And that doesn't mean that I don't support that or that I'm not a patriot or I don't think you're a patriot well I know that you don't I know that you don't think I'm a patriot but I want to make sure everyone else knows that I am let's talk quickly about Georgia we talked about Sidney Powell and the dominion voting system and the accusations of widespread fraud now we are hearing both her and Lynn Wood there was a rally earlier this week in Georgia saying do not vote for Republicans in these two special election Senate races, until they guarantee, I guess, the Secretary of State in Georgia and Governor Kemp,

until they guarantee that we have integrity in our voting system, you need to withhold your vote. And I've talked to people online that say, yeah, I'm going to teach Mitch McConnell and the establishment a lesson. And it blows my mind. It blows my mind. What do you think about that? Yeah, because, I mean, I think the lesson that will be taught will be to us. because if we, if these, you know, even if it's completely because of corruption, right,

if, you know, Joe Biden is president and these two seats go to the Democrats, they will have complete control of the government and they will be able to do all the extreme things that we worried about from the very beginning. I think a lot of Republicans have come to this idea, oh, well, the election went better than we thought in the House and in the Senate, not necessarily the presidential race, but at least there's going to be some way of stopping. all the crazy, the AOC from popping out in everybody's mind. And the Democrats have gone to great lengths to try to convince Republicans of this.

For example, Joe Manchin has been on television every two days, who's probably the most moderate of the Democrats from West Virginia, saying, I won't let any of this happen. I'll tell you right now, I'll vote against it. I will say, if they try to end the filibuster or pack the court or any of these things, I'm going to be standing up against it. These darn Democrats, and then AOC posts a picture. of her frowning at Mansion.

This is theater. It is theater designed to convince people in Georgia that could go either way that it's okay if you give Democrats control of the entire Senate because they won't do all these crazy things. Joe Mansion will be there for you. Here's the truth. Joe Mansion will not be there for you. When they need his vote, he will vote with the Democrats.

When there's plenty of clearance and it doesn't really matter how he votes, he'll throw some votes to Republicans so he can seem like he's moderate. But we've seen this with all sorts of different. different votes over the years. When they've needed his vote, he's always there for them. And Republicans should legitimately be terrified of what happens if they don't get both of these seats. And to an extent as well, even if they do get these seats, who are you depending on?

Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Mitt Romney. These are not people who you could depend on voting for conservative policies here. 52. And it's a very jello-like 50. if you win both of them. Lynn Wood, who is the guy making this case at the rally you're talking about, is a guy who has voted for, campaigned for, and donated to Democrats his entire life.

Specifically, the candidate that ran against Purdue last time. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And when Obama could have had a super majority, he was there to donate to Democrats, Purdue's opponent, he voted in the Stacey Abrams primary. Well, you know, people who support Donald Trump generally didn't vote in the Stacey Abrams primary in Georgia. You know, it's awfully convenient that Joe Manchin can come out and say, oh, I'm on the Republican side this one time. It's awfully convenient that this lifelong Democrat is out there advising Republicans not to vote for Republicans.

Yeah. You know, we have to, again, I'm a worst case scenario guy here. We have to have some way of stopping the worst impulses of the Democratic Party. Yeah. If Joe Biden is president, if there's a Democratic Senate and a Democratic House, they're going to be able to do whatever they want. And it's not Mitch McConnell who's going to learn a lesson there. He's going to have his nice job and he's going to make all this money and he's going to have plenty of influence and all of his dinner parties anyway. Right. It's us.

We're the ones that are going to feel. We're the ones that are having our first and second amendment rights threatened, parental rights threatened when you're looking at something like the Equality Act, that stuff. I mean, AOC has already said, look, I don't want to lose because I don't want to compromise. I get it. From as a Republican, I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise with you guys, with the radicals at least, either. And so I want to win. But you're hearing the farthest left wing of the party saying, look, I'm not looking to compromise.

She's posting things about Joe Manchin, like, you know, you better, you better watch out. And so they're not looking to compromise. They're not interested in moderating to the, you know, 70 plus million people that voted for Donald Trump. when you look at the Georgia Senate races, it's Republicans' fault, by the way, that a Republican didn't beat Warnock. If you look at Doug Collins plus Leffler, they got 600,000 more votes than Warnock did. But because they had the election, the way that they did, you know, there wasn't obviously enough. We knew that was going to go to a special election. But right now, Leffler is down. You said before we started this episode, seven points. Yeah, a new poll has Leffler down seven points

and has Purdue down two points. Now, look, it's a poll. We all know the polls are not always, it's one poll and they're not always accurate. We know that. But there is real reason to be scared. I keep coming back to this imagery where you're standing on the edge of a cliff

and you're balancing yourself on one foot. And Republicans are just convincing themselves, ah, the wind will probably come and blow us back onto land. But what if it blows the other way? Yeah. I mean, this is a close election either way. We've seen multiple close elections here. This is a national election.

They're pouring a quarter of a billion into these races. Democrats want them. And there's a reason they want them. It's not because they want to get some moderate changes through. They want them because they see an opportunity to do real damage to the things that Republicans, conservatives hold dear. And look, I mean, I'm not in Georgia. I'm not going to be voting in Georgia. But if I were, I would be, I would, I would not let a lifelong Democrat or another lifelong Democrat talk me out of voting for Republicans here. Right. And I do actually think that Kemp and the Secretary of State and the two Republican Senate candidates, Senate candidates have supported the fight there and have said, yeah, we want election

integrity. We're going to do everything we can to make sure that this election is conducted in a way that is honorable and honest. So a lot of people are saying, well, the Georgia officials aren't doing anything. I actually think that they are doing something. And to the people who are saying, well, what's the point of voting if we cheat? we're just going to lose anyway. Well, one way to guarantee that you lose is not voting.

Like, that's a really good way to guarantee that you lose. Yes, it is very, that will definitely be, I promise you, you will lose if no one votes. If no one votes. You got to do it. And it is, sometimes, I think, you get down these roads where you want to send messages, you want to punish these officials. I mean, the Secretary of State has taken a beating in Georgia as well as the governor. I mean, Leffler and Purdue have called for him to step down the secretary.

Secretary of State over all of this. I don't know what else they're going to honestly do here. But the truth is, this is, it's like when your, when your outcome aligns exactly with Nancy Pelosi and what she wants and what AOC and what she wants, you're probably on the wrong side as a conservative. Yeah. You know, and I think, I think this, we got to let, we can't let people who have, God only knows what their actual intent is. I will say, like, there's a lot of money flowing around to some of these attorneys from outside groups, I would not be surprised if we find a lot of the funding from this coming from left-wing groups, not right-wing groups in some of these lawsuits. Because, you know, right now we're at a situation where, you know, when the outcome is that,

when you have thousands of Trump fans cheering for a democratic control of government, which is what was being encouraged there, you have to, there question marks have to pop up in your mind. And you've got to vote your conscience and what you believe is right if you think these people are really that terrible. You've got to vote the way you want to vote. But don't let Democrats talk you into doing it. Yeah. And I don't have time to play the clips that I wanted to play, but there are a lot of hearings that are going on. Hearings in Pennsylvania and Arizona in Michigan where people are, they're purporting, you know, various evidences of fraud, like a spike in Biden votes in Pennsylvania. Mathematician Robert Pinyon says that he wouldn't certify the

Arizona election based on what he has seen. That's what he said in an Arizona hearing and a Michigan hearing, a poll watcher claims that she couldn't see any ballots and wasn't allowed to get closer. And I think seeing some of these hearings come out, a lot of people are hopeful that, okay, maybe changes a comment. Donald Trump, he released a 45-minute video saying, look, I need your support. So I guess my question is, what's your prediction in all of the? this? What's your message to people that are still clinging to hope that things could turn around for Trump? Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. I think the it's the percentage chance of this succeeding is low. The reason is because, look, you're in a system that if the

fraud is true is likely to rule against you, right? It's hard to imagine it goes another way than that. So, I mean, I think, you know, I think preparing for the worst is, is a rational thing to do. You know, I think there's a lot of stuff. You remember, there's two roads here. There's a lot of stuff that goes on social media. There's a lot of videos, a lot of like, I don't understand why this line goes up this way. You know, I've been watching election results come in for years. It's my, it's a big part of my job. That happens every single election like that. Giant chunks of votes come from cities that are 95 to 5 or 90 to 10 Democrat. It's not, it's not unnatural. That, sort of stuff happens. That might be different than what they're talking about. What you can,

I think, sit back and take solace in a little bit is that these attorneys say they have the evidence and they have promised us multiple times on the air. They will be able to prove it in court by the deadline. So there's very little for us to do here. We can sit back and watch it all happen, try to understand it, but it's really going to be something that takes place in the courts. And these attorneys, the ones that are on Donald Trump's payroll, the ones that are fighting in Georgia are people who know the legal system probably better than all of us, and they say they can do it. All we have to do is sit back and watch and see if they can. But we can do something about the Georgia election that will at least alleviate the worst things that the outcome could

present. Yeah. And guys, if we lose Georgia, you can't say that it was rigged. It's because people didn't go out and vote. And so, yeah, please vote. It's literally the rights of the entire nation. are arresting on Georgia right now, and I think it's very short-sighted to listen to someone who has been a historic Democratic donor and not voting for the candidates, one of whom he has donated to the opponent of a few years ago. And so please vote in Georgia. There's a lot on the line. I'll be talking a lot more about that in the next month or so. As you said, really all we can do right now is see things unfold. If something, by some miracle, by some unexpected turn of events.

Things did go in the way of Donald Trump. We are looking at the greatest meltdown from the left and the media that we have ever ever seen. I don't anticipate that, but I think I'm just going to, I would hide in a bunker for at least a year. Oh, yeah. If that happened. I just can't imagine. Preparation supplies will be flying off the shelves.

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