Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 488 | Vaccine Mandates & Met Galas: Welcome to our Brave New World | Guest: Justin Haskins

Episode Date: September 14, 2021

Today we're talking to Justin Haskins of the Heartland Institute to get an update on what's going on with the Great Reset. Does Joe Biden's recent vaccine mandate play into the World Economic Forum's initiative to "reset" capitalism? What about all the other things he's done that put our nation last? In other geopolitical issues, Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan has only served to empower our enemies like China and Russia. Back at home, AOC went to the Met Gala in a dress that read, without a shred of irony, "tax the rich." Haskins explains why she's actually getting played by the system she thinks she's fighting against. --- Today's Sponsors: Chamonix's Genucel serum with plant stem cell technology helps get rid of those bags & puffiness under your eyes. If you don't see results in 12 hours, you get your money back guaranteed! Order now & get 50% off all Genucel packages — go to LoveGenucel.com/ALLIE to shop! Good Ranchers have met with the actual farmers that raise the livestock to ensure the product they're sending to your table is the very best. Go to GoodRanchers.com/ALLIE to place a one-time order OR subscribe today & save 20% on each box of mouth-watering meats. Plus, get an additional $20 off & free express shipping if you use the code 'ALLIE' at checkout! Annie's Kit Clubs are a fantastic way to build lasting memories with your kids while encouraging their creativity. Go to AnniesKitClubs.com/ALLIE & save 75% off your first shipment! --- Past Episode Mentioned: Ep 470: BlackRock, Bill Gates & the Great Reset | Guest: Justin Haskins https://apple.co/3k9THu9 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far. So today I am talking to Justin Haskins. You know that name because he's the guy that we talk to about the Great Reset. We're going to be talking a little bit about that today.

but we're also going to be talking about a few other things that the Biden administration has done maybe that we haven't heard about because there's been so much that has been going on over the past few weeks, but are nevertheless very important policy issues that we have to care about, that we need to take note of. We're also going to be talking about AOC at the Met Gala and her taxed the rich dress that she was wearing at this very elitist event. and you'll hear my take on that, his take on that, how that actually fits into everything else that we will be talking about. But you're going to love this conversation. My last conversation that I had with Justin about Black Rock and China and The Great Reset and Bill Gates is the

most listened to episode of Relatable that I've ever had. And so if that tells you anything about how great this guest is and how much you will love this conversation, just trust me. You're going to. So without further ado, here is our friend, Justin Haskins. Justin, thank you so much for joining us again. I was just telling you before we turn the cameras on that our conversation about Black Rock and Bill Gates and China is the most listened to episode of Relatable ever. And we're coming up on 500 episodes. I know. I know.

It's incredible. It is one of those things where it is such an important issue that nobody talks about, that nobody talks about. that nobody talks about it, people just started talking about it, then I really think it's going to gain lots of momentum. And maybe we can actually stop some of the stuff that's been going on. That's crazy. So thank you for taking the time to actually talk with me at length about it. Well, you've done all the legwork. I think one reason why it's not really talked about. And go back, by the way, if you haven't listened to or watched that episode, we'll link it in the description to this episode so you can go back and listen to it.

But one of the reasons why I think a lot of people don't talk about all of that stuff is because it's too complicated. It's just too much. Like people, and then they feel like they're getting sucked into some kind of conspiratorial rabbit hole. And I think it's also overwhelming. It makes us feel so small and so powerless. And that's why I think a lot of people, you know, they just won't even touch it. But you're right. I think if collectively there was more awareness about it and more pushing back against it than maybe, I don't know, maybe it make a difference. No, that's the only way it'll make a difference. I mean, the only way that this stops is if the people who are orchestrating all of this stuff,

who are working together, these are elites, banks and financial institutions, investment groups, and the government and elsewhere, the only way this stops is if they get called out on it. They're terrified of that, terrified. Whenever anyone actually points this stuff out, they go nuts. They go absolutely crazy because they know they're getting away with something. And they know it's big. They just, the only way it can be stopped is if everybody wakes up and realizes, wait a minute, what is going on? You guys are circulating trillions of dollars.

You're all getting rich. We're losing all of our freedom. Corporations are imposing all these rules on us. Government's now imposing all these rules on us. We have lockdowns. We're destroying millions of small businesses. Corporations are in control of everything. The banks have all of this power.

We're debanking people. We're deplatforming people. We're throwing people off of social media. We're silencing people. This doesn't seem right to me. And when you realize that it's all really part of the same plan, the same idea, then, you know, it makes a lot more sense. And they're just, like I said, deathly afraid that people figure out how to connect all those dots.

And when we're talking about it for those people who may not know, who haven't gone back and listened to that episode yet, we're talking about the great reset. Can you, I don't know if you can boil it down to a couple of sentences, but is there a way to just kind of shortly encapsulate what you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, sure. So I think the easy. way to understand is the Great Reset is a movement. It's an idea that the Great Reset term is a branding that they gave it, the people who are in charge of us who are promoting it. And it's a movement amongst

the people who are in the highest rungs of power all over the world from the World Economic Forum. And that's the group that does Davos every year or so from the United Nations, from various governments, from corporations, from banks, etc. They've all got together and they released this great reset plan. And the plan is essentially to centralize power and control in the hands of the elites, these people who made this plan. It's a pretty great plan. And it's all being fueled by money that's being printed by central banks, both here in the United States and elsewhere in Europe. And the way that it's all going to work is we're going to funnel money into the parts of the economy that are the quote unquote, you know, good parts of the economy and the good companies, the people who

agree to go along with our ideas, whether that's fighting climate change in the Paris climate accords, or, you know, reducing the amount of pollution in, you know, in their supply chains, or making sure you have the right ratio of Hispanics to African Americans at your company. That's a real thing, by the way. So this goes into that ESG score that we've talked about. That's exactly right. That's how they know who the good companies are and who the bad companies are. They built this giant infrastructure called ESG, Environmental, Social, and Governance Standards. And major corporations all over the world have already adopted this. More than 80% of the large corporations in America have this in place already.

In Europe, they're talking about making it the law that every corporation in the European Union has to do this. And so that's how they know who the good companies are and who the bad companies are and who to funnel the money to and who to take money away from and who to impose regulations on and who not. And so that's that's the system. it is already in the process of being rolled out. This is not some like, well, this could happen someday in the future.

If we're not careful, no, it's happening now. It's already in place. And, you know, when we did that podcast the last time about BlackRock and all of that, I mean, we went into great detail about all of these things. It is complicated. That's, they're banking on. That's one of the reasons it's so successful because you can't just explain it easily in five minutes. You got to actually dig into the details.

And, you know, that's what we did in our last conversation. and that's why I think people liked it so much. A lot of people are wondering if Biden's vaccine mandates, which, you know, we've already talked about on this show, how I don't think that they're backed either constitutionally, logically, or scientifically. I just don't think it makes a whole lot of sense. I think he did a really bad job.

If his goal was to try to convince people to get the vaccine in his speech, I don't think he accomplished that at all. It was patronizing. It was condescending. It was creepy with his little whisper into the microphone. But a lot of people are wondering if it's even more sinister than just, okay, he didn't give a good speech or this is incompetence or he's not thinking clearly his administration is making bad decisions. Some people are wondering if there's maybe some malice behind it and

they're maybe connecting it to this whole great reset movement of trying to reshape the economy and all of our systems to try to, you know, empower what you call these, you know, this group of elites, but also to change the way basically we function as a society. And one of the things that people are pointing to in this is not just the reshaping of the economy, but what seems to be a destruction of our health care system as well. And one of the things that I'm seeing, people say, is when Biden has threatened to take Medicare away from hospitals or Medicare funding away from hospitals that don't vaccinate all of their employees in the midst of a staff shortage that is actually leading to what we're seeing in the overflow of ICU's where there are

an abundance of beds in a lot of cases, but there aren't enough staff to actually man those beds and people are quitting because of these vaccine mandates. You just wonder if this is just one of the examples of the Biden administration purposely pushing policy that is meant and is bent towards destruction. And then, you know, people ask the same question about Afghanistan. You wouldn't have done that any differently if you wanted things to go poorly. If you really wanted America to be embarrassed on the world stage, now we've heard Secretary Blinken said that we're giving $64 million to the Taliban. So all these questions are sure. and asking, okay, is this malicious? Is Biden playing a role in this Great Reset? And part of that

Great Reset is to weaken all of America's systems, economy, healthcare, all of that. What do you think? Or is that just trying to fit things in that really don't fit? Yeah. So I would argue, and this is going to sound a little bit strange maybe to some people, but I would argue almost everything that happens is in some way related to the Great Reset. Policy-wise. Policy-wise. Right. Not everything in the universe. But yes, Everything that happens in terms of American policy, in Western policy, really, I think is related to the Great Reset because the whole purpose of it is to completely reshape society. I mean, that's their goal. They've stated that very plainly.

They talked about how one of the things they want to do is not just push the reset button, which is what the Great Reset alludes to, on the entire economy, but on societies as a whole to rewrite social contracts because existing social contracts aren't working to change all of the institutions and society. Now, explain what that means. Explain what social contract theory is and why they want to change it. Right. Well, when John Kerry, for example, because you asked, does Joe Biden support the Great Reset? When John Kerry was openly advocating for the Great Reset prior to becoming part of the Biden administration, he was saying that he talked about the social contract a lot, how the social contract is breaking down. Now, what does the social contract mean?

what it means is that we as a people, the people, the public, we have a, we've come together to form a society. And that society has rules we've put into place a government and rule of law and all of these things. And different societies have sort of different social contracts where they've come together and decided we're going to, for example, in the Middle East, there are Islamic societies where the social contract is really built around the Quran and built around Sharia law and stuff like that. in Western civilization, historically, the social contract is grounded in Judeo-Christian ideas that go back thousands of years, right? But especially the past thousand years in the West. That's what the basis of our social contract has been for all of Western, modern Western civilization. But what John Kerry and other elites believe is that this idea of individual rights being the core centerpiece around the way society should be built, the way economics should work, that that doesn't

work anymore, that it's led to inequality, into racism, and all of these horrible problems. And so we have to rework our understanding of the obligations that we have as individuals to each other, that institutions have to us, and the responsibilities of government versus the responsibilities of individuals and churches and other institutions. We have to rework all of that because it doesn't work. anymore. And he would point to people rioting in the streets and burning down police stations and people demanding, you know, for defunding the police and all of this as proof of the fact that the social contract doesn't work anymore. And his way of doing things is not full-blown communism, socialism or something like that, which is what Bernie Sanders would argue we should

switch to, or a return to what we would consider to be conservative values and sort of the founding principles of the United States, he would say what we need is to move to a more progressive model where the elites are in charge of more of society and that they build institutions that are better designed to provide the services needed for people in that society. And that we need to kind of take a back seat to nationalism. Nationalism is not good. We need to think internationally. And individual rights are not necessarily always good.

They need to take a backseat to the good of the collective. And who should be in charge of all this? Well, banks, financial institutions, government officials, etc. And that's what they mean by rewriting social contracts. Of course, for people who believe in individual rights, who believe that those individual rights are inalienable, that they can't be taken away or destroyed, this is really scary because, of course, elites abuse their power

when they're given too much of it. And that's really what I think the Great Reset is all about. If you're going to sum it all up into one big thing, what is it? It is the centralization of power in the hands of elites here and around the world. That's what it's all about. It's about moving the power into the people, into the hands of the elites, because if they have the power and they can set up a system through ESG and financial institutions and other things that they think is a more efficient, better way.

way of distributing wealth and power and everything to other people, that's how they would sell it, then we'll all be better off. If we could just give it to the right people. And this idea has been around for over a hundred years. Right. And in actuality, and Glenn Beck's talked about this a lot on his show, you know, this plan to a large extent has been in existence since at least in America, since at least the existence of the progressive, progressive era, the progressive movement of the early 1900s, late 1800s, where they talked about remaking society, rebuilding society, rewriting social contracts, giving more power to the experts in society, putting administrative bureaucracies in charge of more of our society because that's the only way we can keep up with

these European nations at the time everyone thought, you know, the Nazis were before they were the Nazis. Everyone thought this was going to be a great thing, that they were accomplishing all these amazing feats that fascism needed to have a counterpart. And the United States needed to move more in that direction because, you know, democracy and individual rights that can slow things down and gum up the works, right? So this is what ultimately the Great Reset is all about. It's about instead of competing with, you know, Nazis in the 1930s, it's about competing with China. And it's about competing with Russia and countries like that who are able to just build factories by bulldozing down people's apartment buildings

whenever they feel like it, or arbitrarily setting prices and wages and things like that whenever they feel like it, or throwing people in prison because they're political dissenters that don't have the right religion whenever they feel like it. How do we compete with that?

And the United States are so efficient over there. These are the conversations that these elites are having in the West, and their answer is this whole reworking of society through the Great Reset. Hey, this is Steve Deist. If you're listening to Alley,

you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're

headed, you can watch this Steve Day Show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. And if the goal is the reworking of society to kind of concentrate power in the hands of the elites, one way that you have to do that is you have to kind of demonize the idea of individual rights. You certainly have to demonize the idea of getting your values, your protection, your provision from anything other than the, I don't even know if the state is the right word,

but some higher power, which this group of elites thinks that they will one day, one day be. And that means that you really have to weaken everything that the West and specifically the United States was founded on. You have to weaken all of the institutions where people go to get their values, to get their protection, to get their sense of belonging and purpose and meaning outside of the state. So it could mean, at least indirectly, the degradation of religion, faith, the family, parental involvement, parental rights, the idea of patriotism, of loving your country, of loving the constitution on which this country was founded. All of those things, all of these institutions, all of these foundational values that America was founded on, really stand in direct opposition to what the Great Re, he said, is trying to accomplish, correct?

Correct. And so Joe Biden, in doing things that just seem like, again, you wouldn't do things any differently if you truly overtly explicitly wanted America to do badly what he's doing with the border what he did with Afghanistan not just not necessarily ending the war but how he did it and deprioritizing American lives and then what he seems to be doing right now with the economy what he's doing specifically I think with the health care system is just criminal like I said when we're already experiencing staff shortages that are leading to it's leading to a loss of life. This seems to, at least in some way, fit into the goal of the Great Reset by doing everything

you can to weaken the United States. Do you think some of the economic impact of Biden's decisions have, I know you said basically everything has something to do with the Great Reset, but I guess the question would be, how? And especially when we look at like supply chain issues that we're having right now that are very serious. Does that play into all of this? And if so, how does it? Right. So when the Great Reset first launched, Prince Charles, who was one of the, he was one of the co-hosts of the initial big Great Reset events that occurred in June of 2020. This is sort of at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic,

came out and said, and this was echoed by numerous, numerous leaders, world leaders of leaders of every big international institution you could think of practically, came out and said, the COVID-19 pandemic was a golden opportunity. Those are his words, a golden opportunity. A golden opportunity to do what? To fix society. That's how they viewed it. A massive global pandemic killing hundreds of thousands, potentially millions of people. And he was not the only person he said that. No, it was a golden opportunity to change society. So I think what's happening here is, every opportunity they get, and it could be a pandemic, it could be, could be anything, it doesn't matter, is going to be utilized in order to roll out as a, because you have to have

some justification for rebuilding society, right? You can't just, when people have pretty high living standards, which we have in the West, especially in the United States, you can't just say, you know what, everybody, let's blow this whole thing up. You can't do that. Nobody will buy into it. But if everything's horrible, then people might actually buy into this. They would be willing to do anything in order to fix society if things are broken enough.

So I don't think that they wake up one, I don't think that they woke up one day and said, you know what, let's release a virus into the world and let's kill a bunch of people. And then some people do think that. I know some people think that. But I don't think that's what happened. What I think has been happening for a long time is they've been looking for opportunities to do something like this. And they finally had something that was a believable justification.

climate change has been, and they identify climate change as the long-term justification very early on. They said COVID-19 is the golden opportunity to get this thing going. But COVID's not going to be here forever. Climate change is going to be even worse than COVID-19. And so we have to do these things now. Let's take advantage of everything being destroyed right now. We can build back better. This is where this phrase comes from. It actually comes from the World Economic Forum. Biden just adopted it after the fact, this idea of building back better so that we can prepare for a climate change catastrophe in the future. And so you can see there is this, there's going to be this endless rotation of different problems and crises that need to be solved in order for the elites to complete this plan of rolling out the Great Reset and Working Society. it's right now it's COVID-19 and so every opportunity Joe Biden gets to exert more power to try to

seize more power with COVID as a justification. He's going to do it so long as people believe that's a valid justification. When that stops and someday hopefully it will stop and almost everyone will say, you know what, we shouldn't lock down society anymore. We don't need vaccine mandates. Well, then he'll switch to climate change. And then if people don't believe that, he'll find something else. And it will go on and on and on forever. And as long as long as, as you can control the narrative through the media and especially through the media, but through academic institutions and other things, then you can get a lot of people to believe that. And if you can get enough people to believe it, well, then you can rework society over time. And I think that

the difference between COVID and in previous periods is that this is big enough and scary enough and killed enough people that a lot of people were willing, millions, tens of millions of people, we're willing to say, you know what, I don't care. You can do whatever you want. Just stop the crisis. You can take away all my freedom. I don't care. Just stop it.

And that's the most terrifying circumstance. And now that a lot of people are not feeling that way, while they realize we're running out of time, we got to keep this thing going as long as we possibly can. But I wouldn't be shocked if next year they're not talking about this at all. Maybe it wouldn't surprise me at all. And instead it's climate change. We're all going to die from that.

Yeah. And I think, though, that, I mean, looking at the poll, I remember seeing a poll from before the 2020 election and what people really thought was important and why they were voting the way that they were. Climate change came in like last place. Now, I also happen to see a Pew Research article this morning that said really generations are divided on climate change as is usual with the kind of progressive issues. The youngest generation cares the most about them.

I think it's like 75% of people ages 18 to 29 in the United States are very concerned, they say, with global warming. I just don't really believe them. I don't actually believe that they really care enough to change their lives. And so I'm just wondering if there will be other crises that are manufactured, certainly before the midterms. I think a year from now we're going to be talking about some other political crisis that Democrats used to say you have to vote for us in order to save your life. I just don't know if climate change, you know, I can see the elites thinking that that's super important and really caring about that. I think for most people who just want to feed their families and have a good life, it's really hard for them to connect their daily experience with climate

change. So I just don't know if that strategy is going to work. They've been trying the strategy for a long time. A very long time. And so if there was, I agree with you totally that the vast majority of regular people have already decided that in practice, regardless of what they tell pollsters, in practice, they do not believe that climate change is an existential threat to humanity. That's the line that Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. Yeah, they're all, it's an existential threat. Existential threat means humanity could be wiped out by this problem. That's what it means. Nobody actually believes that in practice, because if they did, we'd all be moving into yurts and living

in the middle of nature because we don't want to die from climate change. No one believes that. And John Kerry certainly wouldn't be taking private jets. Of course not. And Barack Obama wouldn't have a huge mansion and a plot of land on Martha's Vineyard. Right. And Harry and Megan wouldn't have an 18,000 square foot house in Malibu if they really cared. What they actually mean is they don't want you and me to contribute to climate change.

However they think we are. Correct. So, but to answer your question, they've been doing this for a long time, which seems to suggest to me that they probably will keep going, even though it has not worked so far, because I think they would have given up already if they, I mean, the writing's been on the wall for a long time, this doesn't really work that well. So I think the goal has been over a long period of time to just keep ratching it up. The problem is we're not making it scary enough. Let's make it scarier and even scarier and even scarier. And every wildfire is now climate change.

Every hurricane is now caused by climate change. Every natural disaster that exists, it doesn't matter if it has something to do with climate change or not is because of climate change. People die from asthma. That's also climate change. It's whatever happens in society is being caused by climate change. It could be a snowstorm. It could be extremely cold weather. It doesn't matter. And so the reason I think they're going to stick with it, at least for a while. Well, some genuinely believe it. Some do. Two, right? Some do, especially regular people, you know, who are just walking around, you know, listening to, you know, watching ABC News and stuff like that. Yeah, I've got, I think a lot.

lot of people believe it. Some elites probably believe it, at least to some extent, just like they believe COVID is a problem to some extent. But the point is you need a justification, right? When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. So when you're looking for justifications all the time to rework society and you have climate change and you've got people saying, well, this could cause all these natural disasters and all these problems, well, then that's a pretty good nail. We need to make sure we keep hitting that. The reason why I think they might stick with it is because it is the perfect justification. It's perfect because it's always in the future. It's not something that you actually are dealing with now. It's this could happen 20 years from now, 30 years

from now. Then 20 or 30 years goes by doesn't happen. And they can say, well, it's 20 or 30 years away. It's an existential threat, meaning we'll all die from it. Yeah. But it's so far in the future that we're all going to die from it that none of us will even be alive to know if this will wipe us all Right. And so it accomplishes everything that they've always wanted even before they came up with a climate change crisis. So it does everything they want. So you don't think there's any legitimacy to the concern that some people have about climate change? I think climate change is going, I think climate change is obviously happening. And I think that climate has always been changing. And I think humans may even be contributing to climate change. And it might even cause problems. But all of the data that we have, every data that you could possibly look at shows, that climate change is not an existential crisis, that the benefits of affordable energy are way, way better than the harms that could be caused by any sort of contribution to climate change, that deaths from things like extreme weather events have been steadily dropping over a long, long period of time in the midst of climate change, that when you look at hurricanes and the number

of hurricanes and intensity of hurricanes, when you look at tornadoes, when you look at wildfires and the number of acreages burned and all these different things, these things are not getting worse. In some cases, they're actually getting better. And that humanity is surviving and even thriving because of technology, because of affordable energy in a way that they never were prior to us having fossil fuels. Fossil fuels is the cheap affordable energy is the greatest thing that has ever happened to humanity in terms of economics and improving the quality of life.

And anything we do to reduce that, is going to harm especially the lower income people in society and more than that even countries that are sort of low and middle income countries because they don't even have the infrastructure that we have here. So, you know, maybe people here, a lot of people here can afford to pay a little bit more for everything because that's what it's going to happen if we switch to renewable energy sources like wind and solar. But in a country, in a place like Africa, that's not the case. They need as much affordable energy as possible right now. They don't even have hospitals that are functioning all the time. The electricity goes out all the time. People die

constantly just because the hospital can't keep the lights on. So we are not, they say they care about these people, but then they're asking them to run their entire countries on windmills and solar panels. And it makes absolutely no sense. So do I think that, and by the way, people like Michael Moore even agree that this is a giant scam, that these plans for renewable and energy don't work and will never work. And so it's not even just a left, right thing. There are a lot of people on the left, if you're willing to look for them, who admit that green energy and all of the stuff isn't going to work.

But Biden is supposedly pro-green energy anti-fossil fuels, correct? Correct. That's why he stopped the construction of the Keystone pipeline. But then he called on, he called on foreign sources of oil to produce more oil, correct? So again, is this malicious intent to try to weaken America's reliance on our own sources of oil and just weaken America in general? I mean, it just seems like every decision he makes is about the deprioritization of American prosperity, safety, security, and lives. Yeah, I think that the way to think about it is that the people at the top, including Joe Biden, who is a big great reset supporter.

We know that John Kerry has told us that Joe Biden supports the great reset and believes in all of this and that he's going to help implement it. I think Biden himself as an individual would benefit from a great reset being turned off and turned back on because his brain doesn't seem to be functioning. And sometimes that actually works. You know, it works whenever my computer is running really slowly. I'm like, oh, I'll just need to turn it off and turn it back on. I just need to reset it.

I think there needs to be a factory reset of Joe. Biden without a doubt. And I think the people around Joe Biden are the ones pushing it the most. To some extent, I do believe Joe Biden always believed in this kind of stuff. He's been in these circles forever. But I also think that he's not all the way there. And, you know, he's, the people around him are promoting these things and pushing it. And he's just kind of going along and reading the teleprompter. And it's all kind of jogs his memory. Yeah, I used to believe this at some point in the past, I think, right? And so he just goes in the same direction that they want him to go in.

The people who are around him are unquestionably all in favor of this reworking of society and using climate change and COVID as the key justifications for making it happen. John Kerry is the biggest supporter of this and he is the, he's in

the cabinet, he's the special climate envoy for Joe Biden. He's been a close political ally of Joe Biden for a very long time. And he's he's pushing this more than anybody and openly telling other world leaders that Joe Biden supports all of this. So do I think that Joe Biden is deliberately destroying the economy, deliberately making things worse? No. What I think is happening is that they believe that this is all in the long run

going to be for the better. I think, yeah, they think maybe temporarily prosperity drops a little bit, things are a little bit worse. For some people and not for others, okay, yeah, that's fine. But society will be so much better off with us in charge. Just give us enough time. It's going to be painful at the start. But once we're in charge of everything and we can, you know, turn on the money printers even more and just send people cash in the mail and a lot of people won't even ever have to work a day in their lives. And we're going to save the planet from climate change. And we're going to make sure everyone's taking care of. And we're going to have elder care and your two year old's going to be going to school for now, you know, we can't even wait till they're five

or six, we got to send them when they're two years old now or three years old into universal pre-k. So like this whole concept, all of these things, they think we're all going to be better off, including us stupid sheep. We're all going to be better off too. Just let the shepherds lead us to the promised land. And if we, it might be painful at first, but eventually we'll get there and we'll all be better off for it. So do I think they think that this is making us worse off? No, I think they believe that we're all going to be better off with them in charge. It's just the transition period is a little rough. That's all. So what they would say is that we're currently experiencing that rough transition period

or that the worst is yet to come? I think that they believe this is the worst that it's going. I think they think we're just about to turn the corner. That's what I think. Now, I could be wrong. And I do know some people who believe that one of the reasons they're being insane about these COVID restrictions is because they actually know things we don't know about COVID. I've heard that theory that maybe they think that COVID is going to get a lot worse before it gets better and that that's part of all of this, that they don't want to tell people because they're afraid to tell people.

That's very charitable. That's a charitable interpretation that they actually care so much about our well-being that they're really trying to get Trump voters to get vaccinated. The psychology of these people is difficult to pin down, right? Because on the one hand, it's like with climate change. I think a lot of them do believe climate change is a big problem, right? But do they really believe it's an existential crisis is going to wipe us all out? I don't know.

But I think that it helps them sleep at night to know, you know what? All this power grabbing that we're doing, all this money that we're making. It's worth it. And you guys are all going to be better off to. Don't worry about it. And even if, you know, climate change isn't a crisis, that's okay. Even if COVID isn't as deadly as we think it could be, you know, that's okay. Because at the end of the day, this reworking of society is a good thing.

This is all just a golden opportunity to do the thing. we should be doing, but you stupid sheep won't listen to us. And under normal circumstances, we need crises to get you people to change the social contract and do with all this other stuff. Okay, one thing that you've written about recently that I don't know necessarily fits into what we're talking about, but maybe it does, is Biden's attack on the Second Amendment. You wrote about this recently for the Federalist. And you said that without passing any laws or without pushing any policy, they are actually infringing on people's

Second Amendment rights. What do you mean by that? Right. So when a lot of people have been focused on a lot of different things over the past few weeks. So it's understandable that people didn't catch this. But I believe in August, late August, the Biden administration announced new sanctions on Russia. And those sanctions involved banning all ammo coming from Russia and guns too,

but a lot of guns had already been banned from Russia. Now, the reason that matters is because we are in the midst right now of one of the worst ammo shortages the United States has ever had, gun and ammo shortages. And this is just one of the many things that we are short on right now. Exactly. And the biggest reason for the ammo and gun shortage in particular is not just because you had COVID-related shutdowns and things like that, but also because there are lots of people buying guns and tons of them.

Gun sales in the first six months of 2021 where it's the highest period of, of time that that is for the first six months of the year for gun sales ever. Because people knew Biden was going to try to come after our guns. Exactly. In 2020 was also one of the, one of the best years for guns sales. Exactly. So there are reasons for these ideas, right? So Biden comes in and they say, you know what? We're going to put these sanctions on Russian ammo. Well, there is no American made, well, there is American made ammo, but it's being sold out really quickly. So gun sellers have been importing ammo from other countries and Russia is one of those countries. Lots of

ammo gets imported from Russia. It's one of the top countries for distributing ammo to the United States outside of US companies, base companies. So he issues these sanctions and he claims the reason they're issuing the sanctions is because of this case a year ago where a opposition leader to Vladimir Putin got poisoned. Okay? Yes. There had already been sanctions issued based on this. And that happened over a year ago when Joe Biden wasn't president. So now a year later, they're saying we're going to have a whole new round of sanctions on Russia to really teach him a lesson.

Now, how does banning ammo from being imported into the United States? Well, we're having an ammo shortage. Does that really hurt Vladimir Putin? Is that really, is he going to, you know, just shake his fists at the world and just give up now and just giving. $64 million to Afghanistan? Exactly. Of course not. It doesn't. doesn't make any sense. The reason he's doing this is it's because of part of a larger movement to make buying a gun, buying ammunition, and just exercising your Second Amendment rights, increasingly more difficult to do. There are other things that are happening as well. Early in the Biden administration, they killed a Trump regulation that would have made it impossible for financial institutions, banks specifically, to deny people access to capital, loans and things like that, on the basis of the kind of business they're in, so long as that

business is legal. So in other words, a bank couldn't say to a gun manufacturer, we're not going to give you a loan because you're a gun manufacturer. Even though otherwise you'd be qualified, we're not going to do that. We're not going to discriminate against you because we don't like that you sell guns, right? So the Trump administration put in a rule that at the very end of their administration that said, you can't do this. If they are qualified financially and it's a legal business, then you can't.

got to give them the loan if you're going to give loans to other people. The first thing Biden did, literally the first week he was in office was kill that regulation right away so that banks could discriminate against gun sellers and manufacturers. And that's exactly the kind of thing that we've started to see. Some banks have openly said they're not going, they're going to remove these kinds of businesses from their portfolio so that they are not providing them access to capital. Now, if you're a gun manufacturer or just a gun seller, even if you have a small gun shop, but you can't get access to a bank account, then how can you possibly function in the modern world?

You can't. You basically have to close down. And so this is part of a larger movement. This is part of the Great Reset. It's part of a larger movement, a sort of collusion of sorts between the government issuing a regulation that helps financial institutions

penalize some industries, not other industries, that don't fit in with what elites want. So elites don't want guns. They know they can't use. just ban guns outright because we have the Second Amendment. So instead, they allow financial institutions to ban guns indirectly by just making it impossible to sell them financially.

And more and more financial institutions are doing this. It's just like with social media companies. And you have the government allowing social media companies to exist, allowing them, because they had to make special carve-outs in order to do that legally, allowing them to have all of this power and leeway to silence anyone they want whenever they're. want. And then, of course, these social media companies start silencing only the people who are opposed to the policies that these left-wing people in government support, right? If this was, if all the social media companies were conservative and they were all silencing liberals,

there's literally no way that they wouldn't immediately turn to using government to make sure that these social media companies were doing this. So this is, again, that's also part of the Great Reset. It's all one big plan to use finance, to use government regulations, to use investors who are also saying we're going to pull all of our money, groups like BlackRock, saying we're going to try to divest money from undesirable industries and guns for many of these people is part of that. It's all one big group of people. They all know each other. They all hang out with each other. They all give money to the same causes. They all go to Davos together.

They all go to Davos events and say there. going to roll out a plan to transform all of society all over the world. They're not hiding it. They're not hiding it. So the idea that it's a conspiracy theory is nonsense. It's not even a theory. At this point, it's just out there. It's just out there. Exactly. On our last conversation on YouTube, they put like a fact check underneath it, which was just a link to the Wikipedia page about what the Great Reset was. And I'm like, thank you for actually affirming what Justin is saying. It literally just said, this is the Great Reset, World Economic Forum, blah, blah, blah. And so it's, I mean, it's verifiable.

Maybe some people disagree with certain interpretation of certain policy. And maybe some people listening are for some of the policies and restrictions that are being put in place for other reasons who aren't pro-great-reset. The fact of the matter is that this is playing into the transformation of society. Now, one thing that I find interesting, and I think it's true, just in the fact that. and learning from you is that this is not communist. This is not even really socialist. Yes, it's collectivist in a particular way and it's certainly devaluing things like individual rights and property rights, but it's not Marxist in the sense of Marxism that we know, correct? And so you don't see someone like AOC or Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders who are advocating for, quote,

direct democracy. You don't see those people as kind of playing into the Great Reset, right? That's right. That's right. And that's right. This is very important. When Glenn Beck, Glenn Beck and I have been working out a book for this for like over a year now. And one of the things initially that we struggled with the most, I mean, I mean for six months was what is this exactly?

And initially it was like, well, this is just a way to do socialism, clearly. This is just some sort of way to do socialism. But the more we looked into it, the more we realized, this isn't really about socialism.

It's not really about communism. Socialism and communism are best defined through collective property, ownership, and management. Okay? It's about collective. ownership of property, primarily. This is not about collective ownership of property. Under this model, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy that you own nothing.

This is one of their certain people have used this exact language on the World Economic Forum's website. Members of government, by the way, it was a member of government who wrote that in one of the Scandinavian countries. So it's not that everyone will collectively own the property. It's that the elites will own the property and you will become renters. You'll rent the property from them and the government will give you. money so that you can survive and everything, but they're going to be in control of it.

There is no collective ownership of property. There's management, collective management of property in the sense that you elect people who then decide how property is going to be controlled, except you don't elect the bankers, you don't elect central banks, you don't elect people at the International Monetary Fund, you don't elect the United Nations, you don't elect any of these people except for the people in your own national government who have all sold their souls to this system anyway. and so it doesn't even really matter. So in that sense,

it's not socialistic because it is controlled by the elites. In a way, this is this system of government to have, I mean, technology has changed things, finance has changed over time, but in a way, this has always existed. Yeah.

Always. For the whole history of human civilization, from the beginning of time, as soon as we actually started having civilized communities where leaders, in charge and all of that. As soon as we started doing that, there were elites in society who developed and decided,

you know what, we should have all the power and control. And Karl Marx would agree with me on this. Right. That's what I was thinking. Exactly. He would be totally in line with what I'm saying right now. So do I think that communism, which is designed to destroy all of that and to make it so there is no class system at all?

And everybody has exactly the same thing according to their means. Of course not. Everyone, you end up with tyranny anyway. authoritarianism anyway. So this is kind of just skipping some steps. They're saying, in actuality, I think there are some people who think, you know what, to avoid the socialist blood in the streets, the revolutionary Marxism type thing, we have to do this.

This is the only way we can make sure that we elites still have control and that society doesn't just break down into nothing. And I actually think that that's the subtext to when John Kerry and people like that talk about a need. for a new social contract and how the world is demanding a new social contract and we're seeing this with people in the streets and Black Lives Matters and all this other stuff. He looks at that and he says, these people want to destroy everything, everything and just have a communist revolution essentially and just go to a totally different thing. And we want to stop that. That's what John Kerry

believes. But we know we can't stop it by just having individual liberty and doing all of these other things because of course that doesn't work. What we need is we need to be in charge of everything, but do it in a way that is make sure that they get their little slice of the pie too. And that's why they are buying into all these left-wing causes, right? It's because it's throwing these people who are marching in the streets a bone. And not only that, but if people like John Kerry and the people at the World Economic Forum see individual rights as an impediment to their goals, then they are on the same page in some ways with the critical race theorist and people at, you know, Black Lives Matter and Antifa because those people also want to do a way with due process and individual rights.

That's one of the tenets of critical race theory questions, the effectiveness and the morality of things like due process, free speech. All of those things they are very clear about in their writings proposing that we adopt critical race theory. And so they're on the same page there. So I could also see people like Carrie trying to use them at least to a certain point. Okay, you can aid and abet the destruction of these things. But we'll take it from there. And we'll go in a different direction. We're not going towards communism.

We're going to go in this way. And I don't even think those people think that they know that they are being used. Okay, we have a few minutes left. I want to get your reaction to we were talking about socialism and AOC. see she was at the Met the Met Gala last night she was in this white dress that says tax

the rich on the back of it this was specially made for her and she was asked about this also in an interview so we'll go ahead and play that when Aurora and I were first kind of partnered we really started having a conversation

about what it means to be working class women of color at the Met and we said, you know, we can't just play along, but we need to break the fourth wall and challenge some of the institutions. And, you know, while the Met is known for its spectacle, we should have a conversation about it.

We should have a conversation about it. We should have a conversation about what she, I mean, she makes, at least just in her salary, what she's making almost $175,000 a year. Is that working class? Well, it is in Washington, D.C. That's true. Where they're all millionaires and, you know,

the, I don't know, what I used to know this, but the average amount of wealth held by the member of Congress is like an absurd. It's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. I think it might be even over a million dollars is the average. So, you know, I guess in that sense, she is kind of working class, I guess. But this, of course, is absurd. This is actually ties into what we were talking about before. How do you, if you're the elites and the AOCs of the world scare you a little bit because you don't want all of society to break down.

and you don't want all the institutions to disappear because you run all the institutions. You like that. Well, then you flatter them. You invite them to the Met Gala. You give them lots of money. You make them very popular. Yeah, you make them an elite.

And the thing about AOC is she is an elite. She would like to say she's not, but she's very wealthy. She has two homes. She is... She drives a Tesla. She drives a Tesla. She goes to the Met Gala,

you know, wearing absurdly expensive clothes that working class women don't wear. And she makes her stuff. feel better by saying, okay, but I'm going and I'm making a statement about it. I'm making all of these people uncomfortable. But really, a lot of people there would also say that they're socialist. They probably would have voted for AOC if they lived in her district. They would definitely vote for her for president. So a lot of those people wearing thousands and thousands of dollars who are very rich are right in line, or they say they're right in line with AOC's policy position. So she's

not making anyone uncomfortable there. She is right in line with all of them. And I think what she said is true, that they're also just trying to make her an elite. And so, and I mean, I think that that will probably be accomplished, don't you? Oh, I think it's already been accomplished. And I think you see that with Black Lives Matters too. The leadership in Black Lives Matters are millionaires now. Own three homes. Yeah, exactly. Well, how did that happen? Because you, what you did was you made them celebrities. The elites made them celebrities. They funneled millions of dollars into their institutions. they allowed them to make millions of dollars from the money that they funneled in. And now all of a sudden they've got all these houses and they've got security,

private security, and they have all of these wonderful things that they supposedly hated. Not that long ago. When in doubt, when you get a really troublesome socialist leader, the way to get them on your side is to just flatter the heck out of them, make them rich beyond belief, and bring them into your class.

Because at the end of the day, who doesn't really want to be an elite? These people want to be wanted. Yeah. And that's what you see at the Met Gala. Yep. And it makes them feel better about all of it when they can say that they're advocating for vulnerable people. Corey Bush is another very far left congresswoman who said that she actually said on television, yeah, you know, I'm going to have private security.

If I have to pay $200 or $200,000, I'm going to pay for private security, but funding the police needs to happen. I mean, that is, that perfectly characterizes what so many of these professing socialists in Congress, just how they live their lives. I like to say that people like AOC, they're really just larping. They're larping a socialist, which is live action roleplay if people don't know. They're really just pretending to be socialist. Hassan Piker, I think that's his name. He is like a, he's a streamer. He claims to be a socialist.

He had this picture that said like eat the rich or tax the rich. And then it came out that he was buying this over a million dollar home in L.A. And they try to, you know, act dumb and say, oh, so I'm a socialist. So that means that I can't buy a house. No, no, no. You know that's not what we're saying. You are criticizing the elites while you are one. That's exactly right.

And that's, and again, I think that this is all part of the plans from elites. It's a way to get people out of the way. And now what you've done is you've actually, the elites have actually won because we are sitting here saying these people are totally delegitimized. They're not even real socialist. And now what you've done is you've, you've delegitimize the socialist movement even from people who might be in favor of socialism because even the leaders of socialism are now looking more like elites. So anytime you get someone who becomes a popular socialist, they become an elite too. You can never really get that grassroots Marxist, socialist, utopia that. that the, you know, theorists and academics and stuff always say they want because you always

end up with a class of elites at the top who end up just keeping all the money in power for themselves anyway. So it all, this is, this is a story as oldest time. And yet they keep perpetuating it over and over and over again, no matter how many times it fails. Yeah. It's really amazing. It really is amazing. And you do an amazing job of explaining all of that for us and breaking it down. Thank you so much. How can people support you? Well, they can go to stoppingsocialism.com where I'm editor-in-chief and of course, heartland.org. And if they feel inclined, please donate to Heartland and support all of our efforts. Awesome. Thank you so much, Justin.

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