Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 522 | SPECIAL EPISODE: The Truth About Kyle Rittenhouse | Guest: Elijah Schaffer

Episode Date: November 13, 2021

Today we’re talking with Elijah Schaffer, a fellow BlazeTV host who was there in Kenosha the night Kyle Rittenhouse fired his weapon multiple times. Elijah recounts the bigger context of what was happening, not just in Kenosha but in the country at that time, and how Kyle’s trial is about so much more than that one August night. Plus, Allie shares her thoughts after watching Kyle break down on the witness stand as he described the moments before he pulled the trigger — and how we should all be angry about these deliberate and malicious lies that have been told about him for over a year.  --- Today's Sponsors: Samaritan's Purse: Operation Christmas Child is the world's largest Christmas project of its kind & its mission is to demonstrate God's love in a tangible way to children in need around the world & to share the Good News of Jesus Christ. Will you join Operation Christmas Child this season by packing shoebox gifts or building shoebox gifts online? National Collection Week is Nov 15-22 so act soon! Go to SamaritansPurse.org/OCC to learn how to pack a shoebox! Birch Gold Group has an A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau, countless 5-star reviews & thousands of satisfied customers. To get started on protecting your savings with gold in a tax sheltered account, request a free info kit from Birch Gold by texting 'ALLIE' to 989898! Good Ranchers exists to support local American farms that help you make great American meals for your family. Foreign meat is stealing their business & robbing you of the quality & flavor you deserve! Go to GoodRanchers.com/ALLIE right now & you'll get 10 free bistro filet medallions with your order of American meat. Plus, if you subscribe you'll save $25 on each box & using promo code 'ALLIE' gets you free express shipping! --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.

We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Hey guys, welcome to relatable. Happy Thursday. This episode, as you can tell, is coming out a little bit later than usual. It's been a crazy day behind the scenes.

This is going to be a very intense episode. We are talking about Kyle Rittenhouse in that trial. have no idea what I'm talking about. Kyle Rittenhouse was the 17-year-old kid. He's from Illinois. He went to Kenosha, Wisconsin to defend some businesses against the very violent riots that were there. The riots, as you'll hear me talk about with Elijah Schaefer, who was actually there, were in response to the shooting of Jacob Blake by a police officer. I'll explain that to refresh your memory about what happened. He's on trial for first-degree murder and some other charges as well. There's a lot of corruption when it comes to this trial and how it's being

prosecuted. The prosecution doesn't have a very good case. It's looking like it will be self-defense, but what we're watching is the media, big business, big tech, and really the Democratic activist mafia try to ruin a kid's life and to hoist up the people that he shot as some kind of heroes when they are so far from that. And the actual situation of what happened is so not being depicted by the media. And it is so frustrating. So we're going to talk to Elijah. He is a host at the police TV. He is going to set the scene. He's going to tell us not just what happened in Kenosha, but also what was really happening at these riots across the country that we have basically been told to just ignore, that we've basically been fed this lie, that they were really

about social justice and that, you know, that they were justified in some way. He was there. And so this is going to be a disturbing episode. Like there's just no way around that. And it's going to be hard to listen to some parts of it. But the hope that I have is that this is going to wake you up to what's really going on. After the interview that I have with Elijah, I've got my own monologue. I feel very similarly to how I felt after watching then Judge Kavanaugh's name being dragged through the mud by Celia. rumors, many of which ended up being disproven, namely that he was guilty of gang rape.

That was a complete and total fabrication. The people who spread that lie did not care. They never apologized. And as I'll talk about at the end of this episode, that's a pattern. That's a pattern. We can't get into all of the details of the trial today. You'll have to trust us that the prosecution doesn't have a case, that the defense has done a good job. And we're not going to be able to play all the clips that I wanted to play just because this is going to be a long episode. As it is, this is going to be a little bit controversial. Like some of the things that are said, some people are going to see it as controversial. You guys know, you know, I am always willing to talk to all kinds of people and hear all

kinds of perspectives. I really appreciate what Elijah is going to say today, you might not agree with everything that he says. And that's okay. Just realize he was on the ground. So he has a different perspective and a more up-closed perspective than either of us do. And I'll tell him, we don't necessarily land in the same place and all of the stuff. And yet I have to respect the fact that he knows more about what actually went on in Kenosha that night than I do.

So we're going to get into all of it. Now next week, it's going to be more lighthearted. Okay, next week and the week after that, we've got some pre-recorded episodes that we have already recorded interviews with all kinds of people. We've got Seth Dillon from the Babylon B. We have Hillary Ferrer of Mama Bear Apologetics and we've got Bridget Fettysi. We've got all kinds of very uplifting, encouraging, important conversations that are going to play over the next two weeks before Thanksgiving that are really going to edify you. I'm sorry that we're ending this week on such a somber and serious note, but it's so important. Like this episode is so

important and I just know right now it's going to be one of my most popular episodes because of the important things that are going to be said. So let me go ahead and get into this interview without further ado. Here is Elijah Schaefer. Elijah, thank you so much for joining us. Tell everyone about the shows that you host here at Blaze TV. Well, of course, they are for mature audiences. I just want to let you know that. I run a podcast called Slightly Offensive on Wednesdays and Fridays at 2 o'clock where we just laugh at the world. So if you're looking for a dose of laughing, again, I'd say if you're 16 or older. And if you don't like cursing, that one is censored. But I also have a five day a week live show called You Are Here that essentially just tries to make sense of the world. I do want to

warn you, though, it is uncensored and there is mature topics. But if you are into that and you want to know what's going on to the world, check them out. Okay. So for those who don't know, you ran into the fire, the proverbial fire, the chaos last summer when there were, well, I guess literal fire, too, because there were riots that were going on. There was looting. There was arson. There was all kinds of chaos and crime that was really glossed over by the mainstream media. You were actually there at a lot of those riots and specifically you were there in Kenosha, correct? Yeah. Actually, it's kind of funny that you mentioned that because I was in Kenosha by accident. Oh, really? So this was, were you there before the Jacob Lake incident happened? Correct. I was actually in Chicago,

which people don't realize is just about an hour like south of Kenosha. Okay. Actually covering another riot that was taking place over multiple days. So this kind of sets the stage of how insane the world was last year. You could literally be in one city covering a riot and I only have to drive an hour to go cover the next riot. They were happening so often and they were so proliferated throughout the country that this just became like my daily activity. Yeah. Okay. So before we get into what exactly happened with Kyle Rittenhouse, let's talk about some of what we were talking about before we started rolling. Set the scene for people. What was it like to actually do? be on the ground in some of these BLM, Antifa, left-wing riots?

Honestly, if people don't realize, probably about seven out of ten of any serious videos that you might have seen from any riot around the country probably came from my camera because it seemed that almost like God's hand was on my life to put me in the worst situations possible, but to protect me in the midst of them. I mean, from the beginning of George Floyd in Minneapolis to here in Dallas, I mean, it was my first day moving here to Dallas. I just moved here and a riot broke out. I drove into the city from California. A riot broke out.

I go to record the riot in Dallas. And how I knew that the country was never going to be the same is when the police announced on their radios that they had lost control of the city. Wow. And so to put into perspective what it's like at these riots, when you're in one of the largest cities, a city like, a city like, Dallas, by the way, which people think of as being Texas and conservative-ish and, you know, it's going to be safe. No, no, no. In Dallas, Black Lives Matter and Antifa and these groups were so violent, the police department got to a point where they were hanging out of their windows with rubber bullet and pepper bullet guns, just spraying and shooting people just at bay,

throwing tear gas, people throwing rocks at the police cars, even watching a man come out with a machete and people break his head open with a skateboard. And I do want to let the audience know some of the stuff talking about is quite graphic because these are very violent events. And I think realizing that my first escape from the violence in L.A. to Texas started with a group of people nearly killing a man, splitting his head open with the skateboard trucks and laughing and people spitting on him and then watching after they broke. That was in Dallas. That was in Dallas. So this was, I think I remember this. This was a guy trying to defend a business against the rioters with the machete and then the rioters basically bashed his head in until he was unconscious,

right? And then they were, this is what, this is when I knew this was different, is that while this is going on after they cracked open his head and blood is spilling out, he's, I thought he was dead. They robbed him of his shoes and robbed his pockets, took his phone and his wallet. Like they robbed a man they thought was dead. And this is what Black Lives Matter? This is BLM. Yeah.

And that's, that's, that was the start. That was the kickoff. That was the George Floyd week. And so the moment that I saw human. beings, Americans, kill or what I thought was nearly kill a man. Try to kill, tried to kill, thought they were successful, laughed. They were mocking him, laughed at him, stole his stuff afterwards and kept going on, broke into a bar, started twerking, pouring alcohol in each other, breaking open ATMs,

trying to break into the American airline center. And the police couldn't stop it. I'm going, America's not the country that I thought it was. Right. And police, I don't know if they're letting this happen. I don't know what's happening, but this isn't going to be good. And this sparked off a year, the most intense year of not only my life, but for the country, maybe three dozen riots over the course of like eight or nine months.

I've seen many people die. I've watched tens of millions of dollars of damages be done. I've had guns pointed at me, triggers pulled. I've had, I've been arrested, beat up. I've been assaulted at gunpoint. I mean, it has been a chaotic year. but of course we can't move past it because as you know like we're still talking about this stuff today the effects of this are still affecting our country and even seeing all of that you know a lot of

people aren't on Twitter and if you're not on Twitter last summer you didn't see a lot of this stuff that was happening and so all you see is this kind of sanitized Instagram version which is you know that rioting is the voice of the unheard that these are sincere social justice advocates It's just trying to get people to stop killing them. But in your experience, what we were talking about before we started this interview is that you saw just a lot of evil behind the eyes of the people that were perpetuating this violence, that were engaging in publicly lewd acts, stealing, ransacking stores. It didn't seem to you like these were people who were mourning the loss of George Floyd or who were trying to fight for justice, right? No, no, and that's so important that you bring that up because like your audience that may not be familiar with me is that I am a federally credentialed reporter on top of a show host. So a lot of my reporting has to be very just objective. Here's what I'm seeing. Here's what's going on. And of course, bringing the spiritual aspect into news reporting is not only not welcomed, but people just don't understand it because they're asleep. They're not awake. And I don't want to discredit the story as we expose the darkness. But I'm telling you, being at these events, aside from the fact that they did almost $3 billion in looting and damages across the country in just eight months.

That's not just money, by the way. Those are, I mean, those are people's jobs. Those are people's livelihoods also that are being ruined by this. Destroyed. Minority communities, mostly.

They mostly black owned businesses and Asian owned businesses, they destroyed in their own communities. And, you know, when I'm there and when I look at people, and when you get in there, I mean, there is no other way to describe it.

then you feel like you're in not only a foreign country, but a foreign world. The collective rage and the anger these people had, not because of George Floyd's death, but they were angry talking about how they hated men, cisgendered people, you know, heterosexuality, the way that they were pushing for everything demonic to change their gender, to explore their sexuality, and the way that they expressed that together of like, let's get together and let's do evil things. Let's hurt people. Let's kill people.

Let's steal things. Let's destroy things. I mean, there is no other way to describe the energy there than purely satanic from hell. And you feel like you're in hell. And I know that because whenever they would find out who I was, because they were always hunting me down. I mean, I've had to be pulled out of situations by the FBI in some of these riots. I've had to be banned from cities. I've got to be evacuated.

I mean, this has gotten so intense for after a while because I was being stupid and going right into the middle of their chaos and exposing them, dressed like them, looking like them. And I believe because God wanted their darkness to be exposed because the media was lying. And when you go in there and you realize that this is a spiritual battle, the darkness recognizes that. And they want to snuff out the light. And they're looking for people who are trying to show the truth. And that's why the entire battle throughout all of this, which has really shocked me, the

amount of slander hit pieces, just demonetization canceling that has happened. because institutions that are controlled by the power of this world were more mad. This is what's crazy. Out of all of this, dozens of people killed, billions of dollars of damage, cities destroyed, life's ruined, you know, all of the chaos, the hurt, the pain, the division in our country. The media's end, takeaway from all of this was they're mad at people like me for how we, that we recorded it. Yeah.

Like that's what they're mad about. They're mad that we exposed it and that we showed the truth of what was happening as they try to make these seem like mostly peaceful protests. Yeah. A lot of people, you might not know what was happening in the country because there were people that were in power that were intentionally making sure you didn't know. And they were trying to make things seem like they weren't bad. But while you were, you know, on TikTok, while you were going to your Bible studies while you were doing what you were doing, America was literally burning and people were killing each other. And there was a domestic war that was taking place in our major cities.

And our government and our news stations and Hollywood, they acted like it didn't. happen, it wasn't happening, and they're trying to pretend like it never did. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want

honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this T-Day Show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. We're about to get to Knotia in a second. When they did acknowledge it, they would stand in front of it and say fiery but mostly peaceful protests.

So they would just lie. They would say, don't believe your lying eyes, believe what we're going, what we're telling you, our rendering of these. events. And I think you're right. I mean, it's darkness trying to protect darkness. Darkness hates light. It hates exposure. And that's certainly what you were doing when you were going to these protests. And so I want to bring us specifically to Kenosha. We know that this was in response to Jacob Blake being shot by a police officer. Jacob Blake, just to refresh people's memory, he was armed with a knife. He was allegedly in front of the house of the mother of his

children. He was violating a restraining order. He had previously been charged with sexually assaulting her. The officers told him to drop the knife over and over again. He didn't drop the knife. The officer then shot him, and this is why Kenosha burned to the ground. Kyle Rittenhouse went to Kenosha. Why? So this is very interesting. And I do want to let people know this. As somebody who's been in a lot of conflict, there is no event that happened, even more than January A. 6 at the Capitol that stuck in my head and the head of the reporters who were there then Kenosha. And the reason why it's significant and why Kyle went, Kenosha was a riot that took place over three days. Okay, this was not an event that occurred on one night and some guy,

and we'll get into why he was there and what happened. Some guy came in and he was a vigilantee and tried to do the jobs of the cops. No, no, no. Kenosha was a, I would say, an event that the local government and state government allowed to happen, where they systematically allowed a small city in the middle of America to physically be burned to the ground. And this is graphic. And I do want to set the stage of how serious it was on the first two nights. People were putting signs on the apartment buildings, letting people know that there were kids inside. But these BLM and Antifa members still set the buildings on fire where kids had to be taken through windows and removed out of buildings. They tried to kill children. Okay. These people had no respect for life. There was another man,

late 60s, early 70s, who had a generational store. And he was telling the people, hey, hey, no, this is my store. Please, please don't, don't damage it. Like, this is our community. They took a brick, cracked open his skull. I don't know if he's dead, but I know that they near, I've seen a lot of bad things. Blood flying, proceed to break the windows and burn down his store. They burned down a church.

They burned down several city blocks. There's an entire half of the city that no one even has footage that they burned because there was just not enough reporting, a reporter. available to capture the chaos in the city. The amount of destruction that was that was taking place in this place, this is not also an event that was localized to a street. Okay, this was taking place from a courthouse down to the main street, down to car lots, up to the, up to the strip malls. And on top of this, the violence was so intense in the destruction. Not only did they burn buildings down. And I tell you, the fires were so hot and the chemicals they used to set these fires

to burn down stores and correctional facilities that even trying to do a new standup across the street on a four-lane highway, I couldn't even do a stand-up for more than 30 seconds because the heat was so hot. Like they couldn't even bring like fire trucks up to it. The flames were burning so hot. So are these people in Kenosha that are setting these fires or are these like agitators, writers that are coming in from out of town? I saw the same people that were at the riot in Chicago at Kenosha. And I saw some people in Kenosha that I've seen in Portland. So believe me, these were very well-coordinated attacks.

Do you think they're hired? Are they paid for? 100%. People talk about them. We've infiltrated Antifa many times in Portland. You'd be surprised at what drinking a beer and smoking a cigarette can do, wearing black and just, you know, killing your lungs and your liver with a couple of, you know, very thin, pale white people that larp on the weekends, hearing what they do. They're all armed.

They believe in a communist revolution. and they believe that they have the right to destroy property because they don't believe in property rights. So they don't believe in personal property

and believe in capitalism is part of the problem so they seek to put pressure on that by burning down the businesses. And to tell people how absolutely violent people were in Kenosha,

Ali, this doesn't even make, I don't know how they did this. They got into groups and took down all of the street lights. Wow. Like they got together and got the foundations

and broke all the lights in the street. I didn't know you could do that. Talk about hate. hating light. Like we were talking about that in a spiritual metaphorical sense, but what a good literal depiction of darkness hating light, literally. You're right. No, and this is my point. We are in a city that has been physically burning for days. The lights are all broken. There's complete darkness besides the glow of the flames. This is going over many square miles.

The police have done are doing nothing. The National Guard, the request gets turned down. This, this is an intentional destruction of a city. And we're finding out with the corruption that is being allowed to happen and nobody's doing anything. I'm there and I'm scared for my life. I talked to a reporter Torhe Ventura. We were in the middle of the city and there's gang members and Antifa and BLM people and you know, someone had just put a gun into my face and I think God, I think the gun jammed if they pulled the trigger and it's on footage and I'm freaking out and I'm like sitting there. I don't know where we're at. I'm lost and I'm going, bro, this is not on accident. Like we have have the ability to stop this, why is nobody doing anything? So as we get into this, what happened

with Kyle, Kyle was one of several dozen met people. There was two groups of armed individuals. And it's important not to call them militias because they weren't militias. They weren't like this organized group of people. But the first question we to ask is, why were the only people that came to try to protect the buildings in the city, young men that weren't law enforcement or part of the National Guard. So these were groups of young men who came armed with long rifles. They had like CS gas, tear gas. And I'm going to tell you what, the only people that were properly keeping businesses from being burned down were these groups of people. They were on roofs. So you're talking about Kyle Rittenhouse. Yes. Other people like him. There was tons.

That's what people don't get. He wasn't a little kid that showed up. He was a kid in a group and a large groups of people. There was a couple groups. But it wasn't organized. No, they just, they just kind of came. A couple people came. A couple people came. And they just kind of formed these groups. And they were actually using less than lethal or non-lethal force to keep people. They were using a lot of tear gas and like pepper spray and stuff to keep people. And they actually, they actually saved the city. Because the rioters try to blow up a gas station. And so they try to set a gas station on fire and blow it up, okay? And they kept the rioters successfully from blowing up the gas station. So before we even talk about anything bad that happened, if these guys weren't there,

this would have been a mass chaos event, and I'd probably be dead myself. Because I was there when they tried to blow up the gas station, and they helped put out the fire and get it under control and get the rioters away. And this is where we get introduced to some of these characters, like Gage and Huber and Rosenbaum, who were in this scene trying to get this gas station to be blown up. So everyone involved in this, you have A, the guys with guns that are trying to protect the city and B, the rioters who are literally trying to kill people, kill children, kill older, you know, senile men, burn businesses. Black, white, brown, it doesn't matter because you also saw in several cities people putting

up, you know, on their storefront, this is a black owned business, didn't matter, got looted. I mean, what bothers me so much is that Christian women in particular on Instagram get so sucked in with the social justice narrative that if I even mentioned, hey, this, I think this looting is bad or, hey, I think probably burning down people's businesses and homes is a bad thing. That's probably not fitting into any kind of definition of biblical justice. I mean, you would get called all kinds of names, a white supremacist, a bigot, a racist, and all of this stuff. And it just, the deception that even Christians have found themselves under, they don't know the stuff

that you're talking about, but even if they do, they don't want to hear it. I don't know why. Why? Or they just want to believe that, yes, America is systemically racist, that this kind of stuff is justified and know the worst thing that's ever happened to America is January 6th. I don't know why, but they don't want to believe the truth that you're relaying right now. It's uncomfortable to them. And I really can't figure it out. Because the truth is feminized in the church. Like they take the truth and they turn, they've created an icon-based, celebrity-based pathway of feel-good sermons in church where they think that the way you're going to affect the world is simply by having, you know, potlucks prayer meetings in your home and Bible studies. And that the ultimate thing you can become one day, you notice most pastors use examples of like, oh, if you become a pastor, you're like a worship leader.

They make the ultimate ascension of whether you can wear skinny jeans, which I know, hey, I'm wearing them right now, but wear skinny jeans and play the guitar in a four-cord progression. When God called us to be like the salt of the world, like we are called to be light and we are called to affect change and we are called to go out in the world and to be the hands and the feet, the body of Christ. We've become like a superficial clothing of Christ rather than his actual body. And if you've ever seen a man's hands, they're usually rough. Like even mine, they're callous because they pick up. heavy things up. They put them back down. They get dirty. And I noticed in the midst of all of this stuff, I'm going, where are the Christians trying to show the truth and fight for the truth? And it's when you're living in a world where you're seeking to be validated, where your

sermons are all about anxiety and I feel good and this and that. And you're not saying, Lord, put me in the most uncomfortable positions possible. Make me a person that nobody understands that is rejected by the world. Make me like that. We know what that means? It means make me like Christ. put me in a situation that's too hard for me to bear around people that reject me as long as it's your will. I'd rather be there and know I'm doing your will and be misunderstood by the world

than to be liked by my Christian circle and feel good. It's like Christians are not willing to get uncomfortable and they're unwilling to face the hard and difficult truths and realize, go, well, that's, but then people aren't going to like me. That's what God said. He said that they rejected me first. They're going to reject you.

And I know for someone like you in the midst of this too, it has been uncomfortable. I don't like to walk around looking like an a-hole, like a racist a-hole or whatever else they'll call you today. I'm sure you don't like it either. I don't have hatred in my heart. I love this country. I love the people in it. But unfortunately, the narratives that have been given to the people in the church are progressive narratives.

They come from Satan. They're from the mouth of Beaselbub himself. And they are here to distract and to keep Christians from being awakened into the truth simply so that they're well liked. And they posted the black square thinking that was going to affect change. Buddy, that didn't do anything. Yeah, yeah. And one uncomfortable truth in the midst of all of this, and it goes back to the racial narratives and the police brutality narratives that we were just talking about that are just not founded in reality is what happened with Kyle Rittenhouse. It's much easier to believe what the mainstream media is saying that he is just a terrorist, that he is some vigilante. And I actually have, I think we can play it a montage of what the media has been saying about Kyle Rittenhouse.

Kenosha shooter, Kyle Rittenhouse, he murdered two people, by the way. Rittenhouse is basically what you would have had in a school shooter. He's a 17-year-old kid. He shouldn't have had a gun. He crossed eight lines to supposedly protect property. No, he was going out to shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old vigilantees. Kyle Rittenhouse, the vigilante.

Kyle Rittenhouse, the armed teenage vigilante. A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle, drove to a different state to shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse. a guy who's deeply racist went with weapons to a Black Lives Matter protest looking to get in trouble. He did. He murdered a couple of people. Writtenhouse, the 17-year-old kid, just running around, shooting and killing protesters. You see the 17-year-old who was radicalized by Trumpism took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer.

A white Trump-supporting, maga-loving, Blue Lives Matter, social media. a partisan, 17 years old, picks up a gun, drives from one state to another with the intent to shoot people. So basically that he, you know, he's deeply racist. We heard them say he's a terrorist. He went out to murder these people. And you mentioned Rosenbaum. You mentioned Huber.

And I think it's Gross Kreutz is his last name. It's hard to pronounce. Yes. Those were the three. I don't want to say victims, but people who were shot by Kyle Rittenhouse. and the media is saying that he went out in Kenosha just to kill them. And I'm seeing a lot of people just go along with that narrative because it's easier to do. But you were there.

So tell us what actually happened. Okay. If you guys know a lot or a little bit about the situation, this is going to be the most clear and detailed account that you will hear in the shortest amount of time. After the rioters tried to blow up the gas station that was down by the main street, literally trying to destroy the city, these young men who were all, armed, tried to put out the fire and successfully did, which enraged these people. Talk about satanic. They were mad that they were unsuccessful at blowing up a gas station that they were in proximity

to, not very high IQ. So this became a schism between the rioters and the armed young men who were trying to protect the businesses. It became an actual left versus right type of fight. Yeah. Where this is where violence broke out. And some of these individuals like Rosenbaum started using the N-word, provoking the people with guns to kill him. And there's video of that. I've seen the video of this Rosenbaum guy. He is like 36 years older he was. And he is calling some of these guys like Kyle Rittenhouse the N-word. And he's white. And he's white. And he's using the N-word. Not again, also clearly not thinking things through at a BLM rally using the N-word as a white guy. Not smart. And I just want to also note that he's a convicted pedophile. A lot of people don't

realize that, that he raped several boys in the early 2000s. And so this is the person that we're dealing with that a lot of people in the media are protecting and even praising in some ways. Oh, yeah. We're finding out these guys were not good people. And I want to remind you that these were people already involved in heavy criminal activity, right? So these are not just bystanders. These were not protesters. These were violent, destructive rioters who were in this position. As this is breaking out, I noticed Black Block Antifa headed, up the street with two by fours and hammers. And I know that that's where I need to be at the front of the riot.

I need to follow and track where things are developing. So as we're walking up the street, these people are lighting fires or setting dumpsters on fire. They're creating barriers. They're trying to cause more damage, destroying streetlights. We come up upon a car lot that is being actively destroyed. And when I say destroyed, I mean, with the most vitriol and hatred that someone can have for a used car. I'm like, what'd the car do to you? Yeah. I mean, they had mallets.

Like a temper tantrum. Yeah, breaking out the lights, smashing out the windows. Just these cars were being totaled, right? And some people are out here. I mean, it's like the amount of, the amount of damage that I'm saying, I'm going, oh my gosh, this is already hundreds of thousands of dollars with the damage just in this car lot. The people proceed to do what they did to another car lot and they tried to light the cars on fire and blow them up. There was actually over a million dollars of damage down the street to a car lot, they lit on fire. And the irony of that is that that was next to a church. And the church assigned said Black Lives Matter and it burned down with the car lot. I remember that. Yeah. It was a trip to, it was a trip to see that in person. And it puts

into perspective really how backwards the message is. Yeah. And you can never be woke enough. They're still going to come for you. No. No. Yeah. They still were. And so to set the stage, like this was a moment where there was no police. It was complete darkness minus a few lights on the car lot and these were some of the most violent, destructive, and hate-filled people I've ever seen. I'm telling you, Ali, there was something different about that night. I have not seen people fueled with so much strength. Like there's a difference, right? Even in murder, like between first degree, second degree, third degree. Like, you know, like you can tell a crime scene when someone murdered out of rage, right? There's a lot more stab wounds, a lot more

blood. Like, oh, this was a crime of passion. Yeah. That riot was a passion. They were there to cause harm and it escalated. And not because they were necessarily so upset about Jacob Blake, correct? No, these were people that were in Chicago. These are, these are professional rioters. These people were just, they realized, some of them didn't even know Jacob Blake's name. I can guarantee it, but what they knew, this is where, this is what it was. Because there was no police intervention after multiple days, the people felt emboldened in their wickedness. And they felt like they could go harder because they didn't need to quickly, you know, hit a window and run. It's like, There's no consequences.

Yep. They were allowed to do this. So I want to say that this whole situation, as I tell you right now what happened with Writtenhouse right here, this entire situation can be blamed on the local and state government. And we're going to find out from the federal government for allowing this to happen. It could have been prevented. It could have been stopped.

The blood is on their hands. Are you including the Trump administration and not? Yes. Besides his collusion with big pharma, Donald Trump's largest weakness, not personal weakness, but administrative weakness was not weeding out the corruption in the FBI and not taking control of the country because he was afraid they were going to call him a dictator. Well, look what we have now in office, a dictator. So it's not dictatorial or fascist to get control of a country from the violence. Yeah. And this was one of these situations where I'm standing, there's a,

if you're like right here, let's just say that you're on the other side. There's a car between us. There's an SUV. They had broken out all the way. windows on the SUV and they were lighting the SUV on fire. And I'm standing on this side of the SUV. And on the other side where you are, I'm looking through the windows and I just see a guy running up in a green shirt. And I go, I'm like, oh, that's the kid that I interviewed earlier. I had interviewed Kyle Rid. I spoke to him because he threw, I don't know if he or someone else threw tear gas into the crowd as they try to burn down another building. And they got, they saved the building from being burned down. And I'm like, ah, this kid, I got to talk to him. He's like,

looks like a nice kid. He's got gloves on. He was offering medical assistance to people that were that were affected by the gas, showing that he wasn't just, you know, a menace trying to, you know, irritate people's eyes and lungs. He was trying to keep them away from a building and help them. So when people say that he lied about being a medic, is that true? Or was he just offering medical help? No, he, so here's the thing. He was asked by Richard McGannis of Daily Caller if he was an EMT. And he said, yes. And it's actually a technical because he didn't have a license, but he did go to an EMT cadet training like program. So he did have training, but he wasn't licensed. So. I mean, that's not the biggest part of the story. I just seen some people circulate that and I

just didn't know if it's true. It's kind of people if I said to you like, oh yeah, like, are you an expert with firearms? It's like, yeah, it's like, well, you never took any classes, but you did shoot a lot and you know how to shoot well. But technically you didn't like get a certification that you're an expert shooter. So it's like, it's a technical. And in these situations, it's the dumbest thing because he's actually, he was helping people and he knew what he was doing. Yeah. And I was like, oh, like, it's like there comes that kid and then behind him is running this other guy, Rosenbaum. And like it's kind of chaotic. And I'm,

Rosenbaum, by the way, just so people remember, he's the guy who is confrontational with, using the N-word, convicted pedophile. And the reason why I bring that up is because, okay, everyone's bringing up written houses background. You know, all of the, all of the news reports are talking about, oh, he loved Donald Trump and he loved police officers in the military as if that's a bad thing. trying to paint the picture of who he is and give people contact so they have a particular perspective of him. Okay, well, if you're going to do that about Rittenhouse, let's do it about the people that went after him and that he shot too.

Rosenbaum, convicted, pedophile, sexually molested mini boys. So let's just put that into context. And the context is important too because somebody wrote, Mickey Klein wrote on Twitter that the background of the people who are shot is irrelevant. Like you were saying, it isn't irrelevant because even in any court, you look at people's past behavior. to predict sentencing because you look at their ability to redo something. And in this situation, trying to understand whether, as we're going to talk about right now, deadly force was needed, would be to understand someone's past to predict what they might have done in the moment to see.

Right. Because if this is just some guy in a wheelchair like rolling up to you and you blast him with a gun, you'd be like, that's one thing. You'd go, well, like, or yeah, or if it was just a pro, a peaceful protester, like, no, if you see this person as a history of sexual violence, violence, agitation, etc., and we're finding out was bipolar, might have been off his meds, um, this was a very violent person. And to set the stage, this was not the first interaction between everybody in the night. Like, we didn't all just, you know, teleport to this car a lot.

Like, we've been around each other for days for, for that night for hours. And we'd all seen each other. We knew who, what the players were. We knew who was doing what. We're not stupid. Neither was Kyle. I don't assume Rosenbaum was very bright. But it's like-

He knew who was who. Yeah. So he knew who was who. He's, he even, no matter how stupid you are, you know what an AR-15 is. So Kyle has this AR-15. They're running up. I'm just filming these people trying to blow up a car. And I hear a gunshot and it sikes me out because people are running up, which is, which was another individual.

So someone fires a gun over like behind me. It's like, oh, shoot. And no one talks about that a gun was fired towards our direction. You can hear the ricochet. So somebody fired at our direction. And so everyone tried to pretend like Kyle just like randomly shot some piece. protester. Okay, the first shot wasn't from Kyle, it was from somebody else, and it was in the direction. We don't know who, exactly. Yeah, I think they said it might be, they have an idea of who they,

they think it is, and I think he might be charged with misconduct, but it's confusing. But all of a sudden, so I'm like distracted and I'm like, what the heck? And then Kyle's back turns to the car. So it's like the distance, we're a little bit farther away. Basically, if there's a car between us, it's me and Kyle. And these are big windows. Kyle just turns around and just just goes, like fires like three or four shots. I don't remember how many. It was multiple shots. And I was just like, I'm not going to curse, but oh my gosh, I use so many words in that

moment. I was like, because what no one talks about is here's what's so crazy is right after Kyle shoots a few times, a lot of other people started shooting. So shooting broke out in the area. And everyone fails to talk about this. So now you just start hearing, bang, bang, bang, shots coming from different directions. you're hearing bullets fly and I'm like I am going to die. Yeah, of course.

You thought you were going to die. Yeah, I'm like, I'm going to die. I'm like, I jump behind a car like another car because I'm like, this guy's right in front of me. He's shooting. I don't know what's going on. But I quickly get up even as gunshots are still going off to go run over to keep filming because I'm stupid.

And right behind Kyle, a good friend of mine, a reporter, Richie McGannis was coming up. And what's so crazy, God saved his life because he didn't get out of the way. And you can see on the footage, the heat signature of like a bullet nearly missed him. So God spared his life too. So the shooting of, of Rosenbaum from Kyle happened when Razenbaum came up, tried to grab his gun. And I don't know about you, but if someone has a gun and you don't, you shouldn't try to grab their gun. No. You deserve to be shot at that point.

Kyle was in a position. This is I'm trying to say where he had nowhere to go. There was a car behind him. There was a convicted pedophile in front of him trying to take his gun. And he did what people should do in a situation if you're armed and somebody. is trying to kill you and take your gun, you should shoot them. And this was the guy that Richie McGinnis, when he was testifying, they said, was this the guy that the prosecutor who's a terrible prosecutor was trying to say, you didn't know

what was in Rosenbaum's head, right? Is that who he was talking about? You don't know what's in Rosenbaum's head. And Richie McGinnis was like, well, he leaned for the weapon and said F you. So, like, you could kind of tell what Rosenbaum was about to do to grab the weapon. Like, he was probably going to try to kill Rittenhouse. You know, I did watch that, and I forgot about that. That he did yell that out.

He literally, yeah, he did. Like, he yelled. And I don't know if he was demonic or mentally ill, but, like, to me, it's like, nobody's, nobody's asking the question. This is what's so crazy. Before we talk about the other shootings, he's like, everyone keeps talking about, number one, that Kyle crossed state lines. This is what you might hear. If you listen to this or watching this, they're going to say, well, Kyle crossed state lines. He shouldn't have been there.

Okay. The difference between where he was in Antioch, Illinois, and Kenosha is literally the difference. of going from Fort Worth to Dallas. It's like it's the same thing. Kenosian, Antioch, exact same thing. Not only that, he had worked there. His dad was there. He had connections to the city.

This wasn't a strange place. Okay. This was a like a twin city type of thing. This is not, he didn't go from, you know, Portland to New York to go help at a riot. This was his backyard. Yeah. Which, by the way, it's so funny.

People are like, oh, he crossed state lines. So did a lot of the rioters. Yes. Like from much farther away. Well, that's what I'm saying. Nobody asked the question. Like, who else crossed state lines. Literally.

All the people, a lot of people who were there. that they even said, like, most of the arrests from that, from that event, where they were not residents of Kenosha. Okay. And they were stopping caravans. There was caravans of cars coming up from Chicago that they were stopping to cut the exits off to keep more people from coming from out of state. So this was common. Number two, they go, why was he here that night? Why was he there? Why was anybody there? Like, why were the writers out there? Exactly. It was curfew. It was curfew. It was curfew for everybody, buddy. It was curfew for me, too. Why was it only curfew for him? And that's another thing that bothers me about

people saying, oh, we shouldn't talk about the background of Gross Kroits and Huber, whatever his name is, and Rosenbaum, the three guys that got shot, oh, we, you know, their background is irrelevant. Well, you keep asking that question, why was Rittenhouse there? Well, look at all these things he said in his past. It was obviously to kill people. Well, if you look at their past, you would ask the same question. Why were they there? Do they really seem like guys who cared about Jacob Blake? Do they really seem like they care about social justice? No. So I think, it's a good enough question to ask why were they there, right? And they knew each other. We found out that a lot of these rioters that are involved in this knew each other. Of course.

It's a network. Yeah, but that's what I want to say is that also the question is asked. They go, well, why was a 17 year old there with a gun? Buddy, that's a good question. Why weren't the police there? Why weren't the National Guard deployed? Like, that is a good question. Why did it come down to a 17 year old defending businesses? That was, he wasn't a vigilantee either. A vigil, he wasn't, he brought a gun from his own words. He told me earlier in the night to my face. He said it on the stand in the trial, and he said it multiple times. He brought a gun for self-defense, and he came to do medical aid and to protect buildings. And he did that, fine, and he was doing that.

There was never any signs that I saw, and I witnessed that he was ever pointing a gun at people. None of these guys were. They weren't trying to get people away from them. And I do want to point this out, too, they go, well, why did he have a gun? So many of the rioters had guns. Okay? That's why he had a gun for self-defense. They were carrying guns.

Gross-Croids had a gun, and he wasn't even legally allowed to have a gun. A lot of people were carrying guns. were, it was expired. And yeah, he had a Glock, I believe. Yeah, but a lot of people, they had rifles, two people like, well, why do you need a rifle? It's like, look, everyone was armed. I'm just going to repeat this for somebody that wasn't paying attention.

Somebody pointed a gun in my face. There was a reason to be armed. I felt like I was an idiot for not having my gun, but it's complicated to bring guns across state lines sometimes like that. So obviously, as we're seeing, you know, things can happen. But so basically he tries to, we start administering aid. Richie does. We're trying to protect him.

He starts running down the street. This the skateboarder The skateboarder This is what they say The skateboarder that he killed Actually hit him in the head With his trucks Which can kill people

And that's Huber Yeah People people realize this He tried to kill him That's considered deadly force And Kyle shot One shot And killed him

And they were chasing him That's a whole other thing I feel like people With weapons Yes he was not Like if you watch the video Writtenhouse wasn't chasing him He was running one way

They were running after him That in itself shows that there was aggression on their part, that he wasn't going up to them and just murdering people. No, yeah, that's what I was going to say. They were running after him with guns, two-by-fours, hammers. So when we're talking about this kid being outnumbered,

and he wasn't shooting people just that were chasing him. I mean, he was attacked first, then he shot. Then our favorite German last name, which is hard to pronounce, I always mess it up. Gross-Croids. Gage, I think is his first name. I know it's first name. I know I'm very familiar with him.

and the Puff PCN and wrote about him, he tried to shoot Kyle Rittenhouse with a loaded Glock and Kyle blew out his bicep. And that is very painful. And he says he's going to have to live with that for the rest of his life. And I would say this, yeah, don't pull a loaded gun out on somebody who's got a loaded gun pointed at you.

And so it's so crazy, though, that in the midst of all this, every single one of the shootings were a clear sign of self-defense. And as a key witness in all of this, it was all self-defense, but the reason why this is going to trial,

the reason why they put them on a million dollars bond in a clear sign of self-defense they charged them with double intentional homicide is because this is like a three-part issue. The main point of this trial is to test the limits of the Second Amendment. And not only,

not only, even if we win this trial and Kyle wins, and it's proven that it's what the video shows that it was self-defense, they still won, because they show you that even if you use your second Amendment and act in self-defense and win and don't go to court, they're going to make your life hell, make it expensive, and they're going to ruin your reputation and destroy you.

And they're showing you that the Second Amendment may keep you out of prison long term, but we can still bankrupt you. We can tarnish your name and we can destroy your life. Even as a kid. And that's what the point of this is. I mean, there's other side aspects that he's a white guy with a gun and they want to demonize white people with guns. There's an AR-15.

Even though he shot a white person with a gun. But people don't know that. Why did they call this racist, though, when the three people that he shot, were also white men. One of them said the inward. They think that they were black. That's really what it is. The narrative is that he killed black people.

Nobody even knows that the people are shot were white. Or at least that he went there to oppose peaceful protest against racial injustice. I guess that's what some people want to say. They say he went out to kill BLM protesters. And. Which as you said, there weren't even very many peaceful protesters there in Kenosha. They weren't peaceful at all. So they weren't peaceful.

They were violent. They were armed. They were destructive. and a pedophile tried to disarm and potentially kill a minor. The minor used a gun, defended himself. Another adult tried to kill a minor. He killed him before he died himself. Also has a criminal background, by the way.

Uber has a criminal background, so does Grosskreutz. Yeah, Gross. Then another adult tried to kill him with an armed weapon and he was shot. That is self-defense. You can argue whether he should have been there, anything, motives. It doesn't matter. The point is that what he did was nothing against black people. There was no signs of racism.

no signs of white supremacy. There were no issues at all. And this case is a show trial. And it's meant to put fear in patriotic Americans. And it's mainly because he's a Trump supporter. And he loves the police. He loves the military. He loves his country.

I've spoken with him extensively. I've spoken with his mother extensively. These people, these tech companies, banks, everybody colluded to ban them from everything. Because Go fund me wouldn't allow people to donate money to... His legal defense, right? Yeah, and Facebook has made his name a violation of their terms of service. So you can get suspended for even posting his name if they want to and or posting his picture. And they have, they have declared him a mass shooter.

Before the, this is so crazy. The jury doesn't matter in the courtroom because the jury of big tech of the media has already painted a picture that this was a mass shooting of a racist white supremacist who wanted to kill black people who were fighting for racial justice. Even though there's literally no evidence of that whatsoever. Including massive evidence against it. But that's what's so crazy is like all these companies have moved to enact their own form of social justice to where they've banned this guy based on the predication of false narratives and lies. Even if he's even if even if in court shows there was no white supremacy.

The entire all of the riots are based on false narratives. They're all based on false narratives. No, I'm not saying that you can't care about what happened to George Floyd. Okay, that's fine. I'm not saying that you can't care about real injustice. when it happens. But this entire narrative surrounding racialized police brutality is based on something that is false. It's based on a false premise that is perpetuated by the media who act like this is an epidemic of white police officers going after unarmed black men when the numbers just don't show

that's true. So the riots themselves are actually fueled fanned into flame by a lie. And then we are seeing the extension of this lie in Kyle Rittenhouse. And the media don't care that they have placed him, a 17-year-old kid on the altar of that lie. We saw the same thing with Covington. We saw the same thing with Brett Kavanaugh. Again, it doesn't matter what you think about the Covington kids or what you think about Brett Kavanaugh. They actually don't care. They do not care about whether or not they're telling the truth. They don't care about whether or not they're ruining people's lives. They really don't care. Yeah, it's, it's that's, this is what's scary. is

despite there being massive video evidence, not just from us, but from the FBI even in HD showing what happened at this event, despite the court even, the trial,

before the trial even happened, that you can be X'd out of society based off of lies shows you just how far our nation's fallen and how evil people really are and how much these people really hate America and want to send a message to people. that's what I'm saying.

You may be able to, you may be able, if you're lucky, and you have a good judge and the jury is not bullied, which they are being bullied, by the way. George Floyd's relatives are working to docks all of the jurors on this trial. That's mob rule. That's what happens in third world countries. That's democracy, which we don't have in this country. That's why they always talk about democracy. Democracy is mob rule.

We're a republic for a reason. We don't vote based off of what 51% bullies the other 50%. We have state electoral college and we have representatives and we, vote our representatives in because we try to prevent mob rule. They like mob rule because that allows communism, which is like the revolution of less intelligent and uglier people to try to feel like you're gaining dominance, but they end up just becoming slaves. But it's like this trial shows that our rights, even if the courts uphold them, are being ignored and destroyed by the institutions and these private businesses that are pairing. Remember, Joe Biden called Kyle

written house a white supremacist. Joe Biden did. That's defamation. Now let me remind people that Joe Biden literally called someone. I don't even know if I'm allowed to say this word, called someone an N-E-G-R-O today in a speech. He called someone that in a speech. He said, oh, you know, the esteemed N-E-G-R-O, literally, that's the president. So he's calling Kyle Rittenhouse though a white supremacist, so that's good. Yeah, also he said the N-word multiple times. And he's he doesn't want his kids to grow up in a racial jungle. Biden, yeah. Yeah, Biden. Yeah, Biden.

We won't even go down. Yeah, we can't go down the road. All I'm going to say is that this is a very heavy moment. And if you're watching or you're listening, please be praying for this family. Because I've sat down with his mother and extensively spoken to her, Wendy, Rittenhouse. And she's just so sweet. And she's just a middle American woman, you know, like normal lady. And she just told me like our lives have been ruined forever because my son used the right that

that we were given by God that was written into law that was saying, hey, you have the right to defend yourself. And the way that the nation is defending pedophiles and murderers and rioters, rather than defending a young man who loved his country and decided to do something, I will take an unpopular opinion and say, I do think Kyle should have been there because I think if the police aren't going to do their job, people say, well, vigilante justice, yeah, I'm under the prescription that the police have failed us and that it's up to us to defend our own cities and our own property. And that is the most American thing you can do. To go out as a young man to be brave and to go try to defend property that the police in the

city is letting people burn to go defend your fellow neighbors and to do what's right. Even if people say, well, that's illegal. Well, sometimes you have to do illegal things that are right. Abortion's legal. It's immoral. It's wrong. Like legality doesn't predicate morally right or superior. I mean, you can, you can, you know, I'll try to be. You can like mutilate a child's genitals and that's legal here in this country, you know, you can castrate them chemically. But it's wrong. It's disgusting and it's sick.

And so don't try to like demonize this guy. You're like, oh, well, he shouldn't have been there. Well, then who was there? Who was there in his place that he was replacing? Who was going to, who was going to defend that city? And maybe if more Americans had stood up and took up arms and protected their cities, not only would the rioters stopped, the government would have seen, hey, like, Maybe they should be more afraid of us too.

But the government and the writers both see American loving, God-fearing people as weak because we've become weak. And it's like, that's my point is it's going, why he's a Christian too, Kyle. He's a great, great guy. And it's like he wanted to do what's right. And he knew that it took doing something that could be kind of technically illegal to do what needed to be done. And I commend him for it. Well, he probably thought all bets were off because a lot of people were doing and getting away with things that were legal. it's arson is also not legal.

Looting is not legal. The violence that they saw in Kenosha was not legal. And so maybe he thought, you know what? The law really doesn't matter anymore. If they're going to break the law, I'm going to too. I don't know if I'm on the same page as you that he should have been there, although I do understand your point. And there is a difference in saying, well, I'm going to take the law into my own hands

and I'm going to go out and enact vengeance on someone who I perceive has done me wrong. That's wrong. Like, obviously, that's not a trend we want to start. It's what, what you're saying is that he wasn't going out there to kill someone. He wasn't on the offense. He was merely on the defense. And he wasn't using violence to deter people, didn't want to. But because he was there, his presence was simply defending the things that he tried to defend.

And then he had to defend himself that necessitated violence. And so there's a difference. Like that's what I'm saying. If they weren't there, though, Allie, like, no one talks about that. Like, they would have, do you know, people would have died if they blew up that gas station? And also the amount of the amount of the way that they kept people from going. into the residential areas. Like they save people's personal homes.

They save children's lives. Like no one's talking with the lies that didn't, that weren't lost. Like that would have been real victims. Like these, I'm telling you, I watched them keep so much more properties from burning down that some of the properties where people lived above them. So my point is, is like, I know where you're coming from and I respect it. But it's like, sometimes it's kind of like, yeah, it's like that it's like that idea of like, you don't know the mass shooting that didn't happen, right?

It's like, you know, it's like, you don't know how heroic somebody is that like a school guard that talked a kid out of, you know, shooting up a school. It's like, because it didn't happen. So you don't know about it. It's like, the amount of people that didn't die because those guys were there is like, that's why my opinion is what it is. Because I'm going, I see. And you were there. That's what I'm saying. I saw what they prevented. And I saw how they did it so peacefully without using violence and use their, their presence to just deter evil that I'm going, maybe if more communities had just risen up. I'm not talking about vigilanteism. Yeah, I'm not about going out and just like, you know, sniping off your roof.

protesters that are walking by, I meant like, if more people had went to their stores, stood out in front with guns and been like, no, you're not taking my property. And that's why it wasn't just one guy in Dallas with machete. Like, if all the shop owners had gotten together and stood in front of their shops said, don't come down this street. And people had realized that Americans are not weak and that we don't need the police to help us. And no, we are God-fearing, gun-owning people who believe in property rights, who believe in independence and autonomy. And we respect each other. and we are not violent. We're not vigilantes,

but we do not allow and tolerate ourselves to be disrespected, right? We do not tolerate this. Destroyed. Yeah. And we did let it happen. We did let it happen. And I watched,

you know who was the most judgmental of, my heart's been hardened a little bit, Ali, I'll tell you the truth. Not only do I curse more now because I'm married to an Australian, but it's like, I've seen some things. We talked about some of those things and we won't talk about here on the show.

The world isn't a fun place for me anymore. It's not a, it's not a, It's not a joke. There's a real war being waged. And I see what's happening. And I'm looking at my Christian brothers and I'm watching men who are like, oh, you know, well, yeah, it's like, well, I couldn't watch your show because you're cursed. You curse.

Like, well, I can't listen to your podcast slightly offensive or you are here because you curse. And it's like, so you're going to choose to be willfully ignorant and sit in your church and have no idea what's going on in the world because the news stresses you out and you're upset that someone cursed. Would you be mad in your home if you were in the civil war and troops, walked in and they were bloodied and they stained your carpet. No, you wouldn't because those troops, yeah, they're a little dirty. Yes, they're bleeding on your carpet, but they're in a war. They're fighting a real battle. And so yes, there's some sides that it's, you don't want your

carpet stained, but it's like, look, you get it, they're the ones fighting. The people like you at the front of the culture war, the people that I've met and the many brave reporters and people in the military and the leakers and the people that are fighting to prevent a civil war in this country right now, it's a nasty place. It's a very expensive. legal battle, like I said, I've been very damaged, the trauma that I've seen people. Like, I had to go from my mom's funeral to a riot. Like, that's how dumb the world was. I couldn't even grieve my mom's death because the world was so stupid that I had to go

watch other people die without getting to mourn my own mother's death. And I had to confront the trauma of my mom's death by seeing other people's livers get blown up. And so I'm like, I'm telling Christians, it's like, that's what I'm saying. The church people email me, oh, you know, you said this and it was mean. It's like, buddy, we're in a fight for our nation. We're in a fight for our country. How many more people need to die?

Do you need four billion dollars worth of damage before you need to realize the world's not about clutching their pearls? I'm not telling you to curse. I'm not telling you to become hardened. I don't want you to see what I've seen. I don't want you to go through it. But wake up people. Join the fight.

Stand up for yourself. People go, well, I might lose my job. Christ said that you may need to give your life. Like, like you think in the last days that you would refuse the mark of the beast, but you wouldn't even sacrifice being judged by your friends to not get a vaccine. And maybe you wanted the vaccine. That's fine. But I know people who really didn't want it that thought it was that they shouldn't get it.

And we're like, yeah, but I don't want to lose my job. Okay, so you would resist the mark of the beast. You said, I'll stand up for Christ in the last days where the cost is your head. But you won't give up your crappy $40,000 your job that you already hate. that you don't complain about and you always talk about leaving and doing your own thing, you wouldn't even give that up

for a simple moral choice but you would resist the mark of the beast, I don't believe it. And that's why I said Christians are weak and I just want people to realize that if you have not woken up, if you have not joined the fight now, wake up, share this podcast,

share Allie's work, and start joining in the good fight of faith with your brothers and sisters that are, we need you. Like, we need you and I need you. And if you, even if, and I'm saying this is not just if, the best thing you can be doing right now

and to start is if you're not praying, start praying for what's going on and call upon God, but also realize that you are the hands and the feet of Christ. Get them dirty, get busy, and start doing things for the kingdom of God. And I believe that we can win this. I think we could reverse this and we can overcome this if the Christians get out of their pews, get off their butts, and start doing the work of God. And on that point, like you said, one of the most important things that people can be doing is praying that the front lines looks different for everyone.

Like, I'm not going to be the person that's going to go out to the riots and film it. That's you. And we need those kind of people to expose the darkness that's going on. And everyone kind of has a different role. The most important thing that you can do is, yes, to pray for wisdom and to be woken up. This really isn't about right versus left. Like, you talked about some of the failings of the Trump administration. I think we could go on and on about the fecklessness of most Republicans.

So this really isn't about right versus left. Republican versus Democrat, this really is about wrong versus right. Justice versus injustice reality versus lies. That's what this is about. And like you said, it's a spiritual battle. And I don't want to hear people conflating, you know, what Ephesians 6 talks about as a spiritual battle against the evil forces of darkness with just our petty American politics. We're not trying to say that what we are experiencing in America is the biggest thing that's going on in the universe. What we're trying to say is the biggest thing that's going on in the universe that America is playing a part of as every country is, is a battle of light versus dark. It just is.

And there is a part of that, a piece of that that we do see in this particular trial. It's corrupt. It's calling evil good and good. Evil is perpetuating lies. No matter how this trial goes, which I think it's looking good for Kyle Rittenhouse, like you said, they're trying to teach him a lesson. More than that, they're trying to teach everyone else a lesson that you better not stick up for yourself like you better not show people what's going on um but also they are um they're they're trying to demonize an entire side that does want to speak up about the truth and they're trying to scare people they're trying to belittle people they're trying to tell people you know what just um just enjoy these petty enjoyments that we've given you through Netflix and fast food and don't worry about

the things that are actually going on um and so the first is for people to no longer be in the slumber of ignorance that is so comfortable. Yeah. And I do want to say thank you to you as somebody who has been honest with your audience as you've been on your journey, like that people don't realize that if they're listening for the first time or this is like the million time I've listened to you. What? You're over like 500 episodes or something, right? Yeah. So maybe they've been from the beginning is that we're all on this. Like don't look to people like Allie be like, well, she's got to figure out. She knows something. I don't. She literally doesn't know something.

that you don't. And I don't either. Like we're just people and we want to see the world better. And like you said, that's the key thing. The people say, well, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. Search the heart of God and see and know God, no light, recognize where the darkness is and bring light into that dark place. And that's why it might not, it's probably not going to be on the front lines of violent warfare or, you know, overseas or something like that. But you get familiar with Christ, then you can recognize. after you know his presence where something is going against his character and his nature and go, you know what, I'm going to bring God's nature into this. And then also I will know that no matter what the dangers are in this, whether it's a reputational, financial, relational, you know, any of these types

of risks that you could take to affect change. And they are serious and I'm not diminishing them. You go into that realizing, and I want to give you confidence to people listening to this, I should be dead right now 100%. You should be fully canceled and shouldn't have a job because of the things that you've stood up against. The only reason why we're still here now living is because it is not God's time for us to go. It is not God's time for us to die. And it has not been God's time for our voices to be snuffed out in this fight. And the Lord has told me that to my ear that I will only fall when his hand allows me to.

And even then I can have peace. And that's true of everyone. I mean, Jesus says that now a sparrow falls from this guy apart from the father's will. And how much more valuable are we human beings, children of God, than two sparrows that are sold for a penny. So that's absolutely true. But that is, yeah, literally, that's why if you're listening to this, know that God, God's hand of favors on you. And I just want people to be filled with that confidence. Like, that's why people will say something like, well, how does it like, how does Ali just like say these things?

Like, I wish I was more comfortable. And I wish I could say these things too. It's like, well, because she has the power of God. and God is keeping you where you're at. Well, all Christians do. That's what I'm saying, but you have it, but that's my point, though, I'm going, you have the power of God. So if you're listening to this and you know God,

where did God in the Bible say that Ali's power is, because she has a microphone is different than your power because you don't. It's not true. God's power is equal for all of us. And he has given us his divine intervention of his Holy Spirit that has given us the ability. He literally says, like, we will hold snakes and we're not going to die. We're not going to be bitten.

And he doesn't mean to go, you know, scam people. and pick up cobras to look like an idiot and tell people, look, I'm a Christian. He meant whatever God is asking you to do, have the confidence that he will give you the strength to do it. Don't worry about having the strength now. Act first in accordance with God's wisdom. The strength will come and you will learn so much about the power of God. Your faith will increase tenfold.

And when your actions and your works pair up with your faith and you see and you go, oh my gosh, it's not just like Billy Graham that can do mighty things. Like whoever you are, wherever you are, whatever you are, whatever. age you are, whatever gender you are, is that God can use you mightily to do great things. And he has marked us in this day and age. And he has made you alive in this time such as this to be that light and that salt. And I am telling you, it is so exciting. And if you're bored in life or you're confused on the next step, ask God and take that jump

and you won't regret it. Yeah. And like I said, it looks so different for everyone. Like people can be excited about that opportunity. like if you're a stay-at-home mom, most of what you're doing is changing diapers and you're feeding kids and your cleaning dishes and things. And people might think, well, there's no role for me in all of this. That's not true. That is absolutely not true. Like those things can be done with excellence in faith and for the glory of God. You have no idea what you're doing when you're

discipling kids, when you're making disciples of Christ and when you are caring for your kids. Like, that is a role that matters. And it's really easy for us to be like, I hate living in this time because of all of these complications and, you know, our parents didn't have to think about all the crazy stuff that we have to think about. That's true. But as you said, God and his sovereignty placed us and our kids and our children's children exactly on the spot in the span of eternity that he wanted to place us. He's going to equip Christians for this specific moment. And it's actually really exciting to me that the theological and philosophical, ideological, ideological things that my parents really didn't have to tell me. They didn't have to explain like, what's a woman, what's a man,

like here's what evil looks like. I was kind of, you know, we were kind of insulated. Lived in the Bible Belt, you didn't, but I did. And so I didn't, you know, we took a lot of things for granted. I can't do that. We can't do that with our kids anymore. And that's almost exciting that I like get the opportunity to tell my kids what is truth down to the most fundamental of it. So that is an exciting part. I don't want people to hear that you have to be out in Kenosha like you are. Every single Christian has a part in pushing back against darkness with the power of the gospel no matter where God has placed you. And I, you know what?

I agree. And I also want to say to your audience and to you guys, you guys are so epic. And the way that you guys represent Christ, that's exactly the side thing, too, is like, someone like me is not always the best example. And I apologize because, you know, like I said, I have some, I have some things I got to work on. I got some things I got some things that. We all do.

Yeah, but I'm like, serious. I got some serious issues that I'm working through. And it's like, don't also, that's what I was going to say is that if you're not like, some of you might be listening, like, oh, even like, oh, like, I'm not like good enough. It's like your perfection is from Christ. And you trust me, I'm going to tell you this. You don't have to wait until you get over that one addiction or that one sin

or you change that character flaw or you, yeah, or even a time thing or until that one kid grows up or, you know, till your husband gets to the raise or whatever it is that you're thinking. Like, that's when I'm going to act. Like, it's, I need to get there to be better and stronger and mighty. It's like, I am a perfect example. of an idiot who is not that bright and has a lot of world, like world issues and flesh issues that can still be used by God because the work is God's work.

That's why I can't take credit for it. And I just want people to be encouraged that like it's kind of like if God can use someone like me, you're probably a better person than I am if you listen to this show. And so God will definitely use you in mighty ways. And thank you for being a good example of a Christian because a lot of us suck. No, we all have a thing that we're working on. No, we, oh my gosh. I'm such a bad example.

All do know. Thank you for your courage and thank you for coming on to talk to us about this. Obviously, like, I think we planned. We were going to go like 15 minutes and it's over an hour. And so we could talk, I could talk for so much longer because you're a really a fascinating person and I love your passion. And I love how you've helped people. I love seeing the messages that people send you that tell you that you've woken them up, not just politically, but theologically as well. And that's a big deal. So thank you for what you do. And thanks for taking the time to come on. Thank you so much for having me. Mr. Rosenbaum, Mr. Rosenbaum was now running from my right side.

And I was cornered from in front of me with Mr. Ziminski. And there were people right there. That's what I run. time for our break anyway. You can just relax for a minute, sir. So if that broke your heart, which I'm sure it did, I got a lot of messages from a lot of you saying that reminds me of my son. It reminds me of my friend that reminds me of my brother. No matter what the lying ghouls on social media say, and there are a lot of lying ghouls.

They're calling Rittenhouse a white supremacist. they're calling him a terrorist. They're making fun of him for crying. LeBron James tweeted out that, oh, there were no tears. Basically, those are fake tears. He just ate something sour before he got into court. There was a blue checkmark, a liberal blue check mark by the name of Tara Dublin. She tweeted out a picture of him crying on the stand.

And she said, that's the same face Kyle Rittenhouse will make during his first. time in the prison shower. So joking about Kyle Rittenhouse being raped in prison, Anna Navarro of, I think she's of Cian Inn. She says that she is mourning for the three people that attacked him, that he had to shoot and called his tears crocodile tears. There are people saying that this is just the face of white privilege. There's another blue check mark who goes by, I guess his name is Kirk Acevedo. He says he has zero sympathy for Kyle Rittenhouse. Black and Latino kids have been imprisoned and killed just for the color of their skin. So this is the kind of thing, unfortunately, that people are saying, I mean, you heard those tears.

I see the tears. They're not fake. No matter what you think about why he was there, that's irrelevant. This is a kid whose life has been ruined by mostly lies. So I'm feeling so much indignation, such disgust, such righteous anger. And how do I know it's righteous? because it's anger about deliberately malicious lies. It's anger over false witness and God, the source of all righteousness,

says that he hates false witness. In ancient Israel, God demands those who knowingly bear false witness against someone on trial that they should receive the same punishment that the accused would have gotten had he been convicted. It's a good thing that we don't live in ancient Israel because most on the left would be in jail. They accused Kavanaugh of gang rape, the Covington teenager, of intimidating a Native American at a pro-life rally when the full video showed that that didn't happen at all. They said border patrol agents were whipping migrants and treating them like cattle based on one out-of-context picture. Turns out the video was released of that, and that's not even close

to what actually happened. There was no whipping of people at all. They perpetuated for years that Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election. That was a lie. We know now from reports released this week and last week that that was a total fabrication. It was a farce paid for by the Clinton campaign. They said that Ron DeSantis was refusing and refusing to encourage vaccines and was somehow financially benefiting from monoclonal antibodies. That was literally just a bald-faced lie. And all those people targeted by these lies have had their lives and their family's life severely damaged because of lies. There's not left and right, as I was saying with Elijah. There's right and wrong. It just so happens that in the cases that we're talking about,

that the left routinely gets it wrong. They peddle in blatant lies. An epidemic of racialized police brutality is a lie, as we have talked about many times and have gone through the data so many times. The gender wage gap is a lie. That a man can become a woman is a lie. That a baby in the womb is just a clump of cells is a lie.

That the rich don't pay any taxes is a lie. That America is a place primarily characterized by oppression and racism is a lie. That mask mandates and vaccine passports are saving lives. That's a lie. The numbers show that's a lie. Critical race theory isn't in schools. A lie that our biggest threat in this country today is white supremacy. Are you kidding me? That's a huge lie. That our planet is going to become irreversibly unlivable in less than 12 years. That's a lie. It's been a lie since the 1970s. You know, I'm so used to the lies that sometimes I forget that almost my entire job is

characterized by debunking lies. Now, I'm not saying that people on the right never lie again. I don't think that this is primarily left versus right. So I'm not saying that at all. They're sniveling snakes on both sides of the aisle. Absolutely. Like maybe you would say that the lies about the election led to some of the behavior we saw in January 6th. Okay, maybe. That's that's one. But the big lies that end up shaping false narratives that turn into CNN and MSNBC segments that are then paraded out by big tech and big business and big pharma and all of the major national and global institutions, all of those that fan the flame for the riots that have burned and looted and ruined American cities over the past year, the kind of lies that affect destructive policy

and so much resentment and confusion and chaos. Yes, these are most often from the left. They just happen to be from the left. Their lies primarily, they're wrong primarily. They happen to be coming from the left. And these people who will just completely make up a story about a person if it helps their political side, whether it's about Trump or Kyle Rittenhouse or Nick Sandman. They're vicious. They truly don't care if it ruins your life. They don't care if it's true. It just feels good. It just feels good to them. If they get clicks and claps and affirmation, then they're on the right side. They're on the right side of history, and they don't care. The ins justify the means to them. They have no limiting principles,

no moral boundaries, and idiots just go along with their lies because it takes too much effort and encourage to ask and follow a simple question. But is that true? But is that true? Is it true that white police officers are going after disproportionately black unarmed men? The numbers say no. Is it true that women with the same qualifications, hours, work, and education are getting paid less than men? The numbers say no. Is it true that a man can become a woman? No. Is it true that mask mandates in schools have lowered the case or death rate at all for kids and communities? No. And on it goes. But too many people don't want to ask that question. They don't want to ask the question, is this true? Because it's scary. Because it's inconvenient. It can put you in opposition to the people

that you like. So you're going to see a bunch of people saying, wow, yes, Kyle Rittenhouse is such a racist. He's a terrorist. What a terrible person. Innocent, these are innocent victims. If this were a black person, wow, look at this random case of a black person where they were actually convicted of homicide. Wow, that proves white privilege and white supremacy because he's not going to be convicted here. there's no evidence of that and if you want to compare anecdotes like we can do that all day i mean what about timothy simkins he's a teenager who happens to be black in the dallas area who shot up a classroom at school in october was released on bail almost immediately he says he shot up the class because he was bullied for being rich he was then welcomed home by a party that was posted on social media

i haven't heard anything about that story since the media certainly hasn't talked about it hasn't trended on social media, no one cared after he was released from jail after shooting multiple people in his classroom. Like, the media would not have stopped talking about that if he had been white. So, and I'm not saying that that is some, that's indicative of some systemic problem. I'm just saying that if you want to compare stories, we can do that. There's a longer list of names of unarmed white men killed by the police than unarmed black men, but most of us don't know their names because no one riots for them. The truth is, comparing and contrasting anecdotes doesn't really make for good argumentation.

You're going to see that a lot with Kyle Rittenhouse, but it's really fallacious. And it definitely doesn't work here because this had nothing to do with race. It's just that the reason why this is being talked about the way it is, the reason why he's being mocked is because Rittenhouse represents conservatives and the pedophile he shot apparently represents leftists. I mean, that's what they're saying in the media. And so that's where people are coming from. That's it.

and they'll do the same thing to anyone. That's why all this matters. Guys, they will do the same thing to anyone. They'll do it to you. They'll do it to your son. They'll do it to your daughter. They don't care. No matter what the facts are.

It won't matter. If your son or daughter gets accused of something and the political climate is just right and they can at least convince the thoughtless mob and the media enough and people online enough that they're some kind of bigot, then it won't matter what the truth actually is as long as corruption and dishonesty and mob rule and jury intimidation and threats of riots

reign. That's third world country stuff. That cannot stand in a place that cares about justice. So this really shouldn't be partisan. It really should not. I wish it weren't partisan. You should be able to see why a fair trial, a right to do process, the right to self-defense is necessary. This should not be a partisan issue, guys. And his life is going to be ruined because of this because of false narratives. You might be like me and you might say he shouldn't have been there. He shouldn't have had a gun. You know what? If he was my son, I say yes. I wouldn't have wanted my son there. There's different perspectives on that. But that's really besides the point when it comes to this particular trial. People raising their fist in the name of justice don't even know what justice is.

If Christians aren't willing to say this is what God says justice is, this is justice. This is justice, justice has to be linked, has to be synonymous with righteousness, which has to be synonymous with truth. It can't just be a perpetuation of false narratives. If Christians can't say that, no one will. Don't be on the side of lies just because it's comfortable, guys. It's not time for that. Like, it's expired for that kind of complacency. Why do we talk about this? Because culture and politics matter. They affect the real lives of people. They affected this guy. They'll affect you and your family, too. That we live in a country with actual justice and fair, trials matters. The truth matters. Like I said, intense episode for today. Sorry to end your week like that,

but it's important. Monday, we'll be back here with some edification and some more lighthearted conversations. And I'll see you back here then. Thanks for listening. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day, and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives

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