Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 646 | Are Climate Lockdowns Coming? | Guest: Jacki Daily

Episode Date: July 20, 2022

Today we welcome our friend Jacki Daily of "The Jacki Daily Show" back to "Relatable" to give us an update on what's causing the price of gas in America to start going down ever so slightly. Jacki goe...s over how the Biden administration's policies and overall rhetoric affect the energy sector of the economy and how the war in Ukraine does play a role in gas prices, but really, it wouldn't be so bad if Biden would just allow Americans to dig for the oil right under our feet. She also explains the humiliating position this leaves the U.S. in, as Biden must now go to Saudi Arabia and beg it for oil instead. We also talk about how the Left's "green" energy policies are extremely harmful to the poor and working-class people of the world. Not only that, but the policies that elites like those at the World Economic Forum would like to implement in the name of climate change mesh suspiciously well with their authoritarian thoughts on overpopulation and individual freedom. --- Today's Sponsors: Live Action's new video series explains in simple terms the answer to the question, "What is abortion?" Go to whatisabortion.com to watch and share. Moms for Liberty is building an army of moms who are joyful warriors fighting for the survival of America — with a smile on their faces, and absolutely NOT co-parenting with the government. Go to MomsForLiberty.org/ALLIE to find out more! Hunter Douglas provides innovative window window shade designs, gorgeous fabrics and advanced control systems so you can Live Beautifully. Go to hunterdouglas.com/allie for your free design guide. Good Ranchers guarantees meat that is born, raised, & harvested right here in the U.S. Every cut is aged to perfection, and every box is superior in quality, flavor, & value! Save $30 off your order at GoodRanchers.com/ALLIE when you use promo code 'ALLIE'. --- Show Link: Wall Street Journal: "Biden’s Saudi Arabia Visit Was Worse Than an Embarrassment" https://on.wsj.com/3PFwEUJ --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise- use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.
Starting point is 00:00:19 We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com slash All right. Today we are talking again to Jackie of the Jackie Daily show. She is our resident energy expert. So she is, going to tell us why gas prices seem to be trickling down slowly but surely why they were up in the first place. But we're also going to talk about Joe Biden's trip to Saudi Arabia where he begged them to produce more oil even while he is trying to declare some kind of climate emergency here. And part of that plan is that he is going to stop the production of oil or at least somewhat.
Starting point is 00:01:30 And so we're going to talk about this whole disaster, but we're also going to look at it really big picture towards the end of the conversation. Why is this happening? What's the purpose behind it? Even what are the theological implications of all of this? You're going to absolutely love this conversation. No one breaks down the oil and gas industry and energy policies quite like Jackie. Love her so much. If you haven't listened to our last conversation from a few months ago, go back and listen to that. This is a great continuation of that conversation. You're going to learn so much. Before we get into that conversation, I have got to talk about our girl AOC and her brave civil rights activism. And just, I mean, she was brutally, brutally arrested yesterday for putting her body on the line for bodily autonomy.
Starting point is 00:02:25 And so I've just, I've just got to, I've got to play you this incredibly heroic clip. Look at the strength of that woman. Number one, how just awesome and tough do you have to be to wear a wool pea coat in 95 degree weather in Washington, D.C. That's amazing. And just look how strong she is that she had her hands behind her back handcuffs. You know those invisible handcuffs that police use, you know, the really scary type? She was so strong that she reached her wrist out of those invisible handcuffs and she put it in the air like the communist act. She is. And it was just, it was amazing. So yeah, if you don't know what I'm talking about,
Starting point is 00:03:25 you need to watch this on YouTube. If you're listening to this, she puts her hands behind her back. Okay, she's being led away because she's blocking traffic. She's protesting for the right to dismember babies inside the womb. The police officer is like barely grabbing her arm, leading her away and she and Ilhan Omar decided to put their hands behind their backs and then you can see in this picture that's up on YouTube um they did this because they knew that the media was just going to take a picture like this from the front so that their hands are behind their back so it looks like they're being arrested but they're not they're not being arrested at all they're just being let away and they don't have any handcuffs on at all you know like that story that I tell you guys about
Starting point is 00:04:13 how when I got sealants when I was little and the dental hygienist told me that there are visible Backstreet Boys stickers on my molars and I was really excited about that and it took me like 10 years to realize that she wasn't telling me the truth that I actually didn't have invisible Nick Carter's on my molars on my sealants. This is kind of like that maybe AOC and Ilhan Omar were told that really they have invisible handcuffs on. I'm not really sure what went down here, but they actually had the audacity to like stick up their fist in communist protest
Starting point is 00:04:52 even while they were pretending to have their hands handcuffs. All for the sake of abortion, you guys, I mean, these people are not well. They're not well. They are, we live truly, truly in an idiocracy, unfortunately, and that actually ties into this conversation. Some of the worst people, the most manipulative people and truly the lowest IQ people. Can I say that? I think that's a pretty,
Starting point is 00:05:16 that's a pretty nice description of people who are going out there and protesting for the sake of killing children. These are the same people who want to run your life through destructive climate policy. So without further ado, we're going to talk to Jackie about what seems like a controlled demolition through climate change policy in just a second. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality.
Starting point is 00:06:01 We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Jackie, thanks so much for joining us again. All right, people might be noticing that the gas prices are going down just a little bit. In this area, it was like, I saw like 388, which is the lowest I've seen in a long time.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Why is that going on? Is this a good news? Is it all over? I won't say it's all over. but right now we're looking like we're moving into a recession, which means everything's going to slow down. Therefore, there's less demand. So part of what you're saying is actually people feeling not so optimistic about the future,
Starting point is 00:06:59 so the demand just won't be there. Also, just because the prices are so high, people use less, which is part of the agenda. That's what our leadership is after. They love this, right? Less carbon emissions, in their eyes, less climate change. To them, it's a good thing. But what it means is we demand less.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So supply and demand make the price. So when demand goes down and supply stays about the same, the price goes down. Right. But the problem for us is more about inflation. So the price of energy, whether it's oil, natural gas, cold, whatever, feeds into the price of everything. So that means whatever you buy, like every dime that flies out of your bank account or through your credit card is paying for something that is either made from oil. like our clothes and our hair dye and our lipstick and our electronics, or it has been transported to you from wherever it came from or was manufactured to you
Starting point is 00:07:57 with transportation fuel, which again, we're back to petroleum products, or it's manufactured with electricity, which means natural gas and coal and nuclear. So the point is, whatever energy costs, it's going to be put into the price of everything. Everything you pay for. If oil goes up, everything goes up. If natural gas goes up, everything goes up. Okay. And so people have to understand inflation is an energy issue. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:21 So when a voter says what's most important to me is the economy or inflation, what they're really saying is what's important to me is lowering the price of energy, for starters and other things too, like how about stopping wars and not starting them and a government that doesn't just print money. That would help too. There are other reasons too. Right. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah. Yeah. And the Biden administration is admitting what you said. earlier that this helps the, what they would call the anti-climate change agenda. I believe it was Pete Buttigieg, Secretary of Transportation, testifying before Congress earlier this week saying, well, you know, everything that's bad for fuel is better for electric cars and people should just get more electric vehicles. I remember you explained last time why that's not just an easy solution. And multiple members of Congress have said that it is an easy solution, but tell us why
Starting point is 00:09:12 that is such a silly suggestion. So it's them and it's also Europe. And it's so upsetting that they don't understand the fundamentals. That first of all, where to start? Fundamentally, the key with electric vehicles or with renewables is storage. It's all about batteries. And so we don't have right now the technology to run the entire U.S. transportation sector or electric sector, which is completely different.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Right now we use oil basically to run our transportation sector, whether it's gasoline or diesel, and we use natural gas and coal to run the electricity sector. These are the traditional ways of doing it. No battery storage needed. To even dream of flipping just the U.S. transportation sector to natural or to electric vehicles, you need more batteries than planet Earth can create with lithium and cobalt and nickel and all the things that are required to make that battery. We don't have enough on planet Earth. We just don't. So this plan is the non-starter. And then you would make the entire economy even more relying on electricity. Right now we're diversified. If the price of electricity is high, at least you have oil in the transportation sector that could be lower. But here, you're making everything, their plan, reliant on electric vehicles that rely on wind and solar. That's their vision. And we simply, cannot, we would be putting all of our eggs into the basket of is the wind blowing or the sun shining. Right. That's an outrage.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I mean, that's completely a non-starter. It is not going to happen. Yeah. Like, I can just tell you, this is a big PR campaign to redistribute a lot of wealth, like trillions. I mean, they pour almost more money into PR and education campaigns. Yeah. Persuading you to do this, then actually implementing the plan because they can't implement the plan. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Because we don't have what we need to implement the plan. The plan doesn't work. So what is the purpose then of all of the PR? They have to know a lot of the things that you just said. I'm not convinced all of them do. I think that some of them actually believe their own propaganda. Look, not everybody in the government is an energy expert. Certainly very few are.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I mean, Pete Buttigieg doesn't have any experience in that realm. No. No, no. What was the mayor of like Fort Bend, Indiana or something? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, no, I think it's this. When you announce, we're going to redistribute trillions worldwide for a transition. What happens immediately is people get in line for that.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And once they get in line for that, they're 100% committed. It doesn't matter if it works or not. All they need to do is show up and get their part done. So in Washington, I worked in Washington for seven years, starting from like 2006 to 13, around 2012 or 13, suddenly, Everyone I knew who was no longer in the government was in a defense contracting firm doing solar. I mean, overnight, everybody's doing solar and making money or wanting to make money, trying to get in line. And like, how did this happen? I wasn't paying attention at the time to solar energy.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah. Well, the answer is the government announced massive taxpayer-backed funds to back these deals. And so, you know, to provide solar to the military or to a municipality or whatever. And so, look, once they're in line and they're making money, they don't want to hear anything else about what doesn't work. The government's already pronounced that this is what we're doing and I'm making money. So it doesn't really matter. No. I mean, and if you get enough people, this is how some people govern, I'm sorry to say, in our leadership on both parties.
Starting point is 00:13:00 They think as long as we can slice up the federal trough in such a way that everybody benefits who really matters. Yeah, who really matters. That's the key. And that's not you and me. We don't really matter. We don't really matter because we don't have a big pack and we're not making out the big checks. Whoever's making out the checks gets taken care of first. I'm sorry to say.
Starting point is 00:13:19 I mean, I worked there. I remember very well the way it always seemed to work out. And so that's what they call government. That's what they consider the transactional side of the business. Yeah. There shouldn't even be such a concept as the transactional side of Capitol Hill. And they also mean the Nancy Pelosi, Paul Pelosi. deals like Paul Pelosi will know a few days before the rest of America what's going to happen
Starting point is 00:13:45 in terms of a bill and who benefits and what companies obviously are going to be boosted at the bottom line and voila somehow he manages to invest and there's companies and obviously he is nowhere near the only one and it's not a it's not a Democrat thing I mean I think this is across the board yeah and this is the problem and it all it all went wrong with the income tax right yeah Do you realize this country didn't even have a federal income tax until the World War I era? Before that, they didn't have a trough to parse out. And once that happened, wow, it's just there's like no limit to it. And it's what the founders talked about where, you know, our form of government works until people realize they can vote themselves favors from the federal trough.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah. And then it just, there's no discipline. There are many exceptions to the rule in human history that once that trajectory takes, off, it doesn't stop until it collapses finally. Yeah. And America's Green Agenda benefits the worst countries in the world. It benefits Russia. It benefits Saudi Arabia in the Middle East. And it also benefits China. China is making a lot of these solar panels and also the blades of the wind turbines and also a lot of the batteries. So some of the propaganda that you're talking about, the green energy PR that is going on here in the United States, how much do you think,
Starting point is 00:15:07 of that is being pushed by our enemies like China. I would be shocked and odd if they weren't pushing it hard. If I were them, I would because it's not just a matter of making money. It's about making this country reliant on them because they control the supply chain. They would be crazy not to and to, this is perfectly legal, what you're suggesting. They can push any PR campaign and, you know, who knows how many hands they can pass money through to hide where it's coming from. We know the anti-fraking movement. is in big time, big forum funded from offshore funds.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And Joe Biden is representative of that. He said that in a debate with Donald Trump during the campaign that he is going to end fracking. And Donald Trump was like, oh, that's a huge admission. Thank you so much for saying that. Obviously, that didn't stop people from voting for Joe Biden. So Joe Biden is open about that, that he is a part of that push. Sure. I mean, and how convenient.
Starting point is 00:16:04 You know, his family is doing international deals with. with countries that have massive energy interests or deposits or reserves. And wow, they are benefiting Hunter Biden in particular and his big deals, foreign oil and foreign natural or gas companies like Burisma. While at the same time his dad is warring against their number one competitors, American oil and gas producers. How convenient is that? How convenient? Yes. And so tell us a little bit more about, I want to talk about Russia and then I want to talk about Saudi.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Arabia. We keep hearing that this is Putin's fault, that the high gas prices, it's the Putin price hike, even inflation we hear, is the Putin price hike. Is that true? So, okay, war is definitely inflationary. Yeah. So that's for sure. If you start destroying things like, say, a wheat crop and the two biggest wheat producers in that region, Russian, Ukraine, go to war. Yes, the price of the food goes up. There's no question. So there is some truth to the fact that, yes, a war will definitely cause inflation. But the history book need only look back a year to see we had a massive inflation problem that kicked off about February 2021. Yeah. Long before Putin began lining up at the border of Ukraine, long before. So what is that? What will Joe Biden label that? You know,
Starting point is 00:17:23 and this is because he signaled immediately what he was going to do to regulate our energy producers out of business if possible. He said on the campaign trail, I will end fossil fuels. I will end fossil fuels and across all the agencies will be a directive to do everything they can to advance the climate agenda okay that's problem number one um problem number two his 1.9 trillion dollar COVID bill 9% of which was only uh devoted to COVID the rest of it was like every other appropriations bill a massive grab bag and Christmas wish list for the Democrats and all of their interests that this is what they do it's packed into every one of those bills and it's all or nothing deal. It's thumbs up or thumbs down. And if you vote thumbs down, they'll say that you're against
Starting point is 00:18:05 COVID relief, right? So you print money like this, and what does it do? It reduces the value of the dollar, debases the currency, and it throws all this money into the economy. And this is like Economics 101. I was an economics major, as well as a history major. Too many dollars chasing two few goods means prices go up. This is not up for debate. People are trying to pretend suddenly like it's up for debate. No, it isn't. This has been settled for a long time. You won't find examples in history that go in the opposite direction, except inside the Biden White House where they have their own billback better calculator that says the opposite of what history and the truth have been for so long. So that's where the inflation came from. And until
Starting point is 00:18:53 he takes the boot off the neck of U.S. energy producers and stops printing money, it actually tightens the belt, we're going to continue to have inflation. Tell us what happened in Saudi Arabia when he fist bumped the leader of Saudi Arabia. What was he doing over there? How does that have to do with the production of oil and gas? Well, so as you know, the first thing he did was call the Saudi Arabian leader a pariah. You're right? Okay, people talked about how undiplomatic Donald Trump was. Right. Like, he didn't name call one of the top three oil producers on Earth. Yeah. Even though Saudi Arabia is not my favorite country. For obvious reasons.
Starting point is 00:19:46 They're not my favorite country. I would never have done that. No American president should ever do that. You have to maintain rapport with people who control the energy supply, especially if you're going to destroy your own. But no, so it goes over there to beg. And this isn't the first time an American president has begged the Saudis to increase production to help us out with Gavis. prices and for other purposes. I'm embarrassed to tell you that George W. Bush did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And that was right before the financial crisis of 2008, the meltdown. So that was the highest oil prices in history at that time, $147 a barrel. So, you know, he goes to his old buddies, the Saudis. The Bush family was always very tight. If you go to the Bush Library right now, the first photo is him and the Saudi king walking hand in hand through the fields of Texas and Croft. offered, okay, goes over there and begs on his knees, which is shameful, help us. And they said, no. So that was humiliating. And that was 2008. Thank God. The U.S. fracking revolution came on after that, which made us a bigger producer than Saudi Arabia. So we should never have to have gone back to begging anyone. I mean, if you're holding the assets, why on earth would you beg another,
Starting point is 00:21:07 especially a country that is hostile to your interests and your values at times. Let's not forget, most of the 9-11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia. So the culture there is not pro-American, you know? Right. And so, yeah, so he goes over there begging after calling the guy a name. So now he's eating crow, and it's just so humiliating. Yeah. And first of all, as the French leader told him not long ago at the G7, you know, whispering on a hot mic,
Starting point is 00:21:35 hey, the Saudis don't really have a lot of excess capacity to up their production. Yeah. I just want you to know, I know that. Right. So then the leaders, chiefs or staffers whisked them away from the cameras like, hey, hey, hey, hey, let's move, let's move, let's move. Because you don't want people to know you don't have any options. There isn't much supposedly spare capacity out there.
Starting point is 00:22:00 He's like, you know, there aren't many places to go, right? as of right the second, there's no sign of big production coming on anywhere to bail us out of this. Yeah. It's not coming from anyway. In fact, there are all kinds of problems like pipeline shut down or Libya. Now is it less than half of its production because of protests that are happening all around the world because of inflation and the climate agenda that no one's reporting on.
Starting point is 00:22:26 But things like this, like there's so many moving parts like that that can make us have no options. This is exactly why we need maximization of our own resources right here at home. I mean, you and I are sitting on top of natural gas right now. It's right here. Why on earth are we committing suicide by these, you know, get off natural gas and clean burning natural gas and get off Texas oil for all this dirty oil from Saudi Arabia and elsewhere where they don't even have environmental standards like we have. Are we serious about the environment or not? Yeah. So he's going to Saudi Arabia, begging them for oil. And then he is also saying that he might declare a climate emergency here in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And that that will include a pause or a stop on any new drilling for oil. He's already kind of put a stop to that, though, over his presidency, right? So, I mean, what is he talking about and why? Seriously, this makes me just hold my breath in fury. Like, I just, it's exactly the wrong thing to do. I seriously do not know how much he has his faculties. But clearly his advisors are the ones putting this together in anyway. I mean, I think he's going to make things much, much worse.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And what's interesting is he's doing this right in front of an election. So I'm actually surprised. I don't know if he's trying to placate his base after he's gone everywhere to beg everyone to produce oil. He's browbeaten American producers for not producing more. He's browbeaten American refiners for not refining more. He's browbeaten the rest of the world for not producing more. So his base is probably saying, wait a second, you're out there begging for them to produce oil when we've asked you to be as green as possible.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Maybe they view it as a betrayal. Maybe he's just trying to make them happy. It's hard to say what's going on in his mind, but this will only make things much worse than they were before. Yeah, so there seems to be some contradictory messaging. It seems like he's trying to play to his climate change, anti-climate change, supporters as well as try to lower the price of oil. So this is from the Wall Street Journal. So the Biden administration is planning to block new offshore oil drilling in the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. He's planning to allow limited expansion in the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska's
Starting point is 00:24:45 South Coast. And so he will allow as many as 11 oil he sales for offshore drilling over the course of five years. There is a senior oceans campaigner at the Center for Biological Diversity. Brady Bradshaw says that he has. letting us down on climate leadership. So he's not even happy with what Biden is doing in expanding oil production at all. So he's saying that he's going to declare a, you know, national climate emergency. We're going to shut down all new drilling. But it seems like behind the scenes, well, we do kind of just have to open it up a little bit. So I think that's part of what going overseas is about is to some degree they feel like that if they do it overseas and outsource
Starting point is 00:25:27 the so-called pollution and carbon emissions, that's more acceptable to their base. Yes. And the UK is the same way, and Germany is the same way. They will brag about how green they are at home while paying foreign producers to produce filthy, dirty oil with no environmental standards, but that's their emissions, not ours. Right. And so there's a whole lot of outsourcing and playing and pretending. Yeah, it's so much pretending.
Starting point is 00:25:50 As Germany shut down its coal plants, guess what they did? They started importing American coal. Thank you very much, Germany. Yeah. But how silly. This is so silly. So you're paying, you're actually greatly increasing the carbon footprint as you're paying to transport that coal from where it came from across an ocean. Does anyone have any idea of the carbon footprint of moving oil or coal across an ocean, which is a great example of how the Saudis are not as competitive as they claim?
Starting point is 00:26:17 All of our lives, we've had to listen to how Saudi can lift oil out of the ground for $2 a barrel. That's their lifting cost. Whereas in the States, you got a frack. It was like 50 or 60 bucks a barrel or even more in some places. So, wow, how can we possibly compete? And this is why we buy it from Saudi because it's so cheap. Well, they have to actually move it across an ocean, which costs a lot of money. They have to protect it as it moves so the pirates don't take it in the Gulf of Aden or wherever they're taking it through.
Starting point is 00:26:48 So whoever's shipping oil has to ship it and protect it. And then you have to move it again. once it hits land. So the lifting cost is not the full story. And lifting costs here have come way down. Like technology gets better and better all the time. Way down. So U.S. oil is plenty competitive.
Starting point is 00:27:07 There's no problem there. Any talk about that is nonsense. We are fine. We can make a ton of money as it stands at the current prices. So it's profitable. If they're not producing, it's because they're afraid they'll lose their investment because you don't want to be the next Keystone XL pipeline. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:24 You put in six years of time, you know, hundreds of meetings with state, local, federal, tribal governments, six years of study, $6 billion, and then have the federal government just pulled a rug out from under you and you lose it all. Yeah. Who wants to be that? Right. So that is why there are some people who said, oh, Biden and his policies have nothing to do with the rising gas prices when they were going up, up, up, has nothing to do with that. But you've talked about how even just like the intimidation, even just third. rhetoric can have an effect on the gas prices because of that, because they're basically intimidating
Starting point is 00:28:00 drilling or intimidating against drilling, right? Yes, whether it's the pipelines or just the finance, like the ESG movement, trying to defund so that you can't get capital in the oil patch. You can't drill without capital. It's that simple. You kill it. You just choke it off. Or like bragging about leases, which are way up here at the upstream, you also need permits, then you need the midstream, which is pipelines to get it to the market, and then you need refineries in the downstream and the retail, the gas station. So for him to say there are some leases up here, but then give you no pipelines to move it, well, what good is that? Right. It's no good at all. It's a waste of, he hopes that no one understands the complexities of what he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah. And so, but plus 9,000 leases doesn't mean production, so I guess his base is fine with that. But as you just said, this guy's complaining at the center, whatever. people are paid to complain no matter what. There are people who would complain no matter what he did. So he needs to worry about the election. The only thing it's going to bring down the prices is if the demand goes down because the supply can't really move much. Which is what is happening now.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And he's taking credit for that when really he shouldn't. Yeah. Or if China closes down, like shuts down Shanghai or part of its country. Or if there's a shutdown or a lockdown like in 2020 with COVID, that depresses demand. It's a completely artificial depression of demand. And that's what happened. So a ton of U.S. oil and gas producers went out of business because there was nowhere to sell their product.
Starting point is 00:29:30 That's why we have such high prices. Now you have so much fewer producers in America because you bankrupted them in 2020 during the lockdown. You tweeted recently that Europe, Green Europe is going to come to the United States and be begging for more oil production. When do you think that's going to happen and do you think that'll be consequential if they beg? Oh, I think they've been begging for quietly for a while. now. I think they have no choice but to beg, where can they turn? We're one of the few countries that has more capacity. Right. We just don't have a regulatory regime that permits us to really be confident in moving forward. So, but the world's going to need more. I mean, I don't know
Starting point is 00:30:20 what's going to happen to Germans this winter. When Russia decides to cut off their natural gas, as they've done before, to show who's boss, they'll do it for two or three days at a time. Okay, Germany, you're already paying three to four times as much for energy because of your green agenda. And this has to do with the Nord Stream pipeline? Partially. But even before that, they were playing these games with Europe. If there's a like a UN vote and they won it their way, they'll just cut the gas in the middle of the winter. Which is part of why the UN is such a joke. Yeah. So, so Germany is already burning wood to stay alive. They'll be burning coal. They'll be chopping up their furniture this winter. I mean, I don't know what Germans are going to. do. I'm really concerned for them. Because they've been relying on Russia and Russia is basically like extorting them rather than relying on the United States because we're not reliable when it comes to oil production, right? That's the whole problem. We used to be more reliable.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah. I'm not entirely sure. Well, I have a guess. Okay, Germany's a great story because, quickly, they had a leader named Gerard Schroeder. Schroeder pushed them into, like, headlong into renewables before it was ready for prime time. This is the primitive 2005, the 2007 era. After he gets them reliant on unreliable renewables and on Russian natural gas, therefore, imports.
Starting point is 00:31:40 He leaves Germany and becomes the leader of the Russian oil and gas company. The chairman. Wow. So you get your country dependent and now you're the big man in Russia. Why is a German running the Russian
Starting point is 00:31:55 oil and gas operations, right? Why is he at the head of their company? come on yeah um so that's how that happened to germany wow that's so interesting it does seem like the climate change agenda is a war on the working class either purposely or coincidentally i mean it seems like every policy that these kind of left-wing elites push is a war against the working class but there was a very specific picture of that there were these climate change protesters who were blocking traffic and this guy got out of his car and he was like look i'm on parole and And if I don't get to work on time, I'm literally going to go to prison.
Starting point is 00:32:35 These climate change activists, they didn't get out of the road. And I have no idea what happened to that guy. It's really unfortunate. But I thought that was such a vivid picture of really what the green agenda is in general. It really is a war on the working class. It's harder for working class rural people to get to work if the prices are high or if they can't drive at all. Transportation is more difficult when prices go up in general. And so really, as you said, the green agenda seems to only be serving those at the very top
Starting point is 00:33:05 and they do not care about the effects of the people on the bottom. The secret is you can pollute as much as you want in the extreme green agenda as long as you can pay for it with carbon offsets. So it's no pinch on them. Yeah, it's no pinch on them. Yeah. If you look at the percentage of a household income devoted to energy, transportation, gasoline, electricity. The less money you make, the more dramatic that percentage you pay in your budget. So it's like taxes. Even if they're progressive, they always pinch the lowest income people the
Starting point is 00:33:43 worst. So, and they're the people with the least representation in Washington, I can tell you for sure. And the unions are not doing it. The unions are not going up there and pleading the case of the working class. I think those days are. to do. Those days are over, whether it's teachers unions or other kinds of unions. So this is not high priority for most voters, whether working class or otherwise. I'm sure there is a difference between those with PhDs and those with just, you know, a high school degree. There tends to always be a difference in the priorities and the political agenda of those two groups. But this ranks like climate change ranks at the very, very bottom. Most people are
Starting point is 00:34:24 worried about the economy. They're worried about gas prices. They're worried. about safety, you know, things that actually affect their everyday lives, their ability to live. And so what is this group at the top? What are our bureaucrats going to do if there is a lot of pushback about this or if their PR campaign that they have just been pushing relentlessly for years, maybe even decades now, if it doesn't work? Like, is there any hope that they're going to say, okay, never mind, whatever, we don't care about this anymore? Or are they, are they, just going to keep pushing and pushing. I keep wondering where that breaking point comes.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah. Where people realize this agenda is not possible. Like, I can't survive this agenda. I will be broken financially. I will be ruined if I pay for everything they want us to pay for. The, you know, AOC wants a $90 trillion green new deal. Yeah. If she could pin it her way, we don't have it.
Starting point is 00:35:24 So when does it finally break? I feel like this war has really done a lot to put it in focus. We've really been pinched hard for the first time because you have a major oil producer at war indefinitely. So NATO is all backing up because they're all part of the puzzle. And I think that combined with this money printing and the green agenda is the perfect storm for people to say, I've had enough. and it's just not possible.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Right. Like these plans, if you really study them carefully, none of the green plans like the Paris Climate Accord or the clean power plan or any of them work to stop climate change. Right. And it doesn't make our environment cleaner either. We have some of the cleanest air in the world in America. It's amazing, actually, because of technology. It doesn't do anything for that either.
Starting point is 00:36:17 So why are we doing this? Right. And we can't afford it. It almost seems like the Democrats' don't fear the electorate. Which is troubling. Yeah. It almost feels like they don't care.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Because, look, I mean, Biden's doubling down. Right. Right this week. He's doubling down. He thinks you haven't been squeezed enough for the transition. Yeah. So, and as you said, I mean, the New York Times poll said, like, 1% of, or 3% of Democrats said climate's their most important issue, like 1% of the rest of America, if you average
Starting point is 00:36:53 it out. So clearly he's not looking at polls and putting his finger into the air and saying what do they want to hear like a Bill Clinton You're too young to remember that alley But I better remember it I was like in like ninth grade or something
Starting point is 00:37:05 But yeah but Clinton could be You know a Democrat today And a Republican tomorrow And so it's nothing like that It's full speed ahead with the agenda And it seems he's not the only one I think that Trudeau is the same Macron is the same
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yes They just don't seem to care. And they call everyone else totalitarians when really, of course, they are the ones who are the tyrants. It does seem like there was a breaking point in Sri Lanka that kind of had something to do with all of this. And in the Netherlands as well, with the trucking protest. And I know that's not necessarily having to do with fuel, but it does have to do with a kind of climate change agenda. And the people have just had enough. And the government of the Netherlands, they were like, we don't care.
Starting point is 00:38:00 We're going to shoot you until you get off the roads. Yeah. And we're going to take your property. Really troubling. And like as if this were Venezuela, confiscating your assets. And they're even going to ban them. There's talk of banning the farmers from ever farming again. To make it crystal clear, this era is over.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah. This era of agriculture is over because it's too, it's too energy intensive and climate unfriendly. So they don't have the fertilizer giving them that they need to make their crop. And amazingly, this country, the Netherlands is half the size of Indiana. But it's the second biggest food producer overall in the world. I mean, like, that blows my mind for its exports. Next to the U.S., I could not believe how productive they are. It's because they're so innovative. Like, they have to be. They're small. Yeah. But yeah, to just pretend to be so tyrannical. Right. This is a Western country.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I mean, it's really hard not to jump to conclusions that, okay, it would seem like the purpose is famine. The purpose is depopulation. The purpose is a smaller population that they can, control. And I know I'm kind of getting a little bit off the reservation here, but it's hard to imagine that there are innocent and humanitarian reasons to cut off the food supply and to see someone's assets that is providing food for the country and the world. It's really hard for me to come up with an innocent reason for that. Right. I mean, you know, look at the perfect storm. Again, war against two major wheat producers. I mean, weed is a staple. It's kind of like one of the foundational items that humans eat to stay alive worldwide.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And they export all over the place, all over the world. And then all these food plant disasters that happen in the U.S. mysteriously. Mysterious fires. Do you think it's mysterious? I mean, what do you? I mean, I think the most logical and least conspiratorial idea is that the FDA completely has failed. And so that was part of it.
Starting point is 00:39:56 But, I mean, there are some other theories as well. Well, like there were two instances of planes hitting. the property of food plants. And journalists aren't interested in it at all. They're not curious at all. I post something about this. I'm attacked. As a conspiracy theorist, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:40:10 look, I didn't say what caused it. I simply pointed out. There were two, what looked a whole lot like kamikaze attacks. Okay, like 9-11 like attacks. Hitting. One hit a plant and one hit the, they're like, just hit the parking lot, Jackie.
Starting point is 00:40:25 It just hit the parking lot. Oh, pardon me. Oh, yeah. Maybe he wasn't that great of the pilot. I don't know all the circumstances there. I simply pointed out that two planes hit the property. All these fires, all these explosions. Then there were like millions of turkeys and chickens put down for flu.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Then you saw the thousands of cattle that died of heat in Kansas. That was the first time he had ever hit Kansas. No, baby food were being warned about dog food shortages. So you want to have dog food to eat. So it's like a control demolition. I've never seen so many. events come together at once at once and then i mean you've got the open border you've got civil unrest you've got crime in the street i mean there's so many factors and it feels like for a lot of people
Starting point is 00:41:14 even if they're in safe communities that the walls are kind of closing in and that our government really does not care instead they are more concerned with making sure that men can go into women's bathrooms i'm i'm very concerned like my overarching feeling as i as we have this conversation combined with the whole abortion fanaticism, which is a population control measure, is that I know for sure that there's a group of the elites, David Rockefeller being like one of the most outspoken, who thinks there are too many of us on the planet.
Starting point is 00:41:49 That's the real problem here. Well, that's what the World Economic Forum talks about every year at Delvos. They talk about how there are too many people, even Jane Goodall, which is who is not like some rich mogul, but obviously she's an activist. They believed in this like Malthusian myth where Elon Musk, I mean, with all of his flaws, he's one of the only people. I saw that he posted this thread or someone posted like a population density.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And actually, if all of us wanted to live as densely as people did in Manhattan, we could fit in like half of New Zealand. I'm sure of it. So the world is like almost empty a few minutes. If you look at it that way, we can actually fit on earth many, many, many, many more millions of people if we wanted to. We have the resources for it. We have technology for it.
Starting point is 00:42:29 It all goes back to how you see human beings as a credit or a debit as an asset or as a liability. The people at the top see human beings as a liability as people that they, if there's too many, they can't control them. And if you're looking for centralized power, the more people there are, the more autonomous people are, the harder it is for them to obtain control. There's a whole theological conversation you could have about how those people view who is in charge, where morality comes from, and what, human beings are worth. Christians believe we're made in the image of God, that we have souls,
Starting point is 00:43:02 that we're valuable, that we should be autonomous in that way, and they believe that we're basically all balls of matter that don't matter. It is very hard for you and me to put on the lens of a person who sees humankind as an accident in the history of the universe. Exactly. Yeah, just a massive cells, after all, is what they call them in the womb? And that's really, I mean, what are we right now? Yeah. What are we right now? We're a massive cells. And So imagine how differently they see stories about crime, right? You and I see a horrible story about a crime. And we're probably thinking that human being is broken.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I'll bet they didn't have parents who love them. Oh, but they don't have a support system. I bet they weren't taught and poured into with faith, love, hope, all of that. You can see what's missing, what's broken. That is a human being there. And no matter how bad they are, they can't fall lower than any of us can't. fall when you have these beliefs that we hold to us that there's still a human being. God made them and God loves them no matter how much we don't enjoy them right the second. And that is to be addressed.
Starting point is 00:44:09 We need to love people from the, you know, from this stage, the young stage up. There's a problem societally with the breakdown of the family. Imagine how they see it. That's not what they're seeing. Yeah. They're saying, look at all these, you know, riots in Sri Lanka, crimes in L.A. breaking into my porch. You know what? They're just clumps of cells. Yeah. We need less.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I know what we'll do with these people. Yeah. We don't need them anymore. Yeah. We don't need them anymore. So the least we can do is not feed them so they don't reproduce. Is rip their children from their wombs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Is going to. And allow the crime to flourish too. You allow the crime to flourish. You open the border. It creates chaos. It creates crime. It creates unrest. And it creates murder.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And it creates violence. So that takes care of that problem. That also. as a form of depopulation, the allowance and the endorsement of murder on these soft on crime policies. I mean, it does all, they at least have these things in common.
Starting point is 00:45:08 At most, it is purposeful and it is all pushing towards the same goal. Well, the chaos means that we need someone, some strong man to come in and take control and restore order. And I feel like it's about that too. It's about making everyday people
Starting point is 00:45:23 feel vulnerable. Yeah. And wanting tyranny. tyranny. Yeah. So they can feel safe again, just basic safety. And so it can also be nefarious in that sense. But what I'm certain of is that less food means less people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:40 And there are just too many things happening in too many different places. And too many people in charge who seem. Higher price of fuel, less food, less people. It is connected. I say to everyone, be prepared to be self-reliant. Yeah. You know, stockpile food, non-perishables, emergency food, MREs, your fishing gear, your hunting gear. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Grow vegetables, grow fruit trees. Do you know your neighbors? Are you a part of a church? Are you part of a community? Yeah. Are you part of any kind of group of people who can rely on each other? That is also something that they have tried to tear apart. Definitely during COVID.
Starting point is 00:46:19 But for many years before that, people were more isolated than ever before. Right. Well, we have to do everything that we can to push back against that. through self-reliance, but also reliance on one another. Yeah. So, yeah, that's part of all this. Thank you so much, Jackie. Of course.
Starting point is 00:46:32 As always, this was wonderful insight. I really appreciate it. Oh, so happy to be with you in any time. Thank you. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity,
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