Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 692 | Sorry, Ulta: Men Can’t Be Moms

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.

Starting point is 00:00:19 We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Ulta gives two grown men the opportunity to tell women what it means to be a girl. I have a lot to say about that. And we'll look at a couple highlights from the Herschel Walker-Rafiel Warnock debate that had people talking last week. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranch.

Starting point is 00:00:57 Go to good ranchers.com slash alley. That's good ranchers.com slash alley. Hey guys, welcome to relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend. It is kind of starting to feel a little bit like a whisper of fall where I am, which means it's dropped below temporarily, 80 degrees. I saw someone that I follow posting a video of their backyard in Minnesota the other day

Starting point is 00:01:33 and you had like six inches of snow in this person. person talked about starting Christmas music. I don't even know what that means. My brain doesn't have the capacity to comprehend it. I've realized that in certain parts of the South that remain hot, we pretty much have two seasons, maybe three. It's tolerable heat and intolerable heat. Right now, we're intolerable heat stage. And then intolerable heat is like June through, I don't know, October 5th. And then we have like three days of unbearable cold where no one can go outside. or function and maybe all of your power goes out. But I realized in our two dominant seasons, tolerant or tolerable heat and intolerable heat, when it comes fall, you really just have to

Starting point is 00:02:20 think of the clothes that you're going to wear as a costume. You don't wear the sweaters for any practical reason. There is no pragmatic purpose to your scarf or to your boots. You would be totally comfortable, even more comfortable, wearing a tank top and shorts and flip flops, but because you want to transition into a new season, I think that's part of human nature, you just have to decide, okay, I am going to be sweaty outside all day, but I'm going to wear my autumn costume. You have to think about your jackets and your vest and your sweaters and your scarves and your boots and your jeans and your corduroy, all more like a costume rather than clothes that you have to wear for any particular purpose. And you just can't judge people. You can't judge

Starting point is 00:03:05 people when it's 75 degrees outside and they're wearing a cow neck. You just have to be like, yeah, I get it. That is the fall costume and we're all just pretending here in the south that it's autumn. So that's what stage that we're in now. We're in the pretending that it is cold enough to have to wear a jacket. I'm wearing a sweater and boots right now because I am embracing my fall costume. Anyway, okay, lots to get to you today. One thing I did want to mention last Thursday's episode where we talked about Pitbull, not Mr. Worldwide, the other kind of of pit bull, the dog kind of pit bull, I knew it was going to be controversial. And I addressed literally every single argument for pit bulls that I've heard. And still, that has not stopped

Starting point is 00:03:48 people from commenting the very same arguments that I refuted. And not in a refutation of my refutation of their original argument, but actually saying the original argument like I've never heard it before. Like people commenting, oh, this is the same thing as banning guns. Or while pitties used be nanny dogs or chihuahuas also bite. I addressed all of those what I consider to be very silly and illogical arguments in my episode. And still, people actually, they refuse. This is what bothers me about anything. And I try not to ever do this. I really don't comment on other people's videos or things at all. But if I did or if I sent someone a message of disagreement, like I really try to take their argument and respond to what was actually

Starting point is 00:04:35 said, not just say something that I want to say or that I think that they need to hear. That is like beyond annoying, honestly. But I do appreciate, well, there's tons of messages and comments of support and agreement. And that's great. But I also appreciate those of you who disagree and you're like, hey, I disagree. You like your pit bulls. You like pit bulls in general. That's fine.

Starting point is 00:04:56 I think you're wrong. You think I'm wrong. But we realize that we're talking about a dog. And while I do think it's an important subject, I do. and I think it's an important disagreement. This is not like a salvation issue. And now some of you, now I say some of you, you're not probably listening to this anymore.

Starting point is 00:05:14 Some people take this to the level of it literally almost being to them a salvation issue. Like I got a message this morning from someone that I had never responded to before, but I was able to scroll up and see her previous messages. And she had sent me messages of agreement of saying that, you know, she supports my book. great. And then she literally devolves into saying that I can't support you anymore. I used to be a fan of you. I can't believe that you're saying this about pit bulls. Lady, this is a dog. This is a dog. And I was talking about several stories in which elderly people or toddlers were mauled. And people take their love and

Starting point is 00:05:54 adoration of pit bulls to a level of almost, I'm not saying everyone. I'm not saying everyone. But some people in my comments have taking their love of pit bulls to a level of idolatry, to a level of worship so that you cannot tolerate people blaspheming what you have made a little G God. Honestly, like that is the level of apologetics that I see in some of the comments. It's to, I mean, it is beyond. It is beyond to me. I understand if you love pit bulls, you have a pit bull. Maybe. Maybe. your family has always had pit bulls. You have never had to bear the brunt of pit bull aggression. Your child has never been mulled. Your pet has never been killed by a pit bull. You believe that it's only the owner. This is the only breed ever, I guess, that doesn't have a nature. It's the only

Starting point is 00:06:51 breed ever that is completely dependent on the owner and training for behavior. That's wild to me. It doesn't make sense. But maybe you're someone who believes that. That's fine. I don't think that you're not a Christian or not a good person or that we can't be friends. I actually have friends who have a very gentle pit bull who has never as far as I know ever shown any aggression. And I love these people. They're awesome people. Obviously disagree on the pit bull issue. But to those of you who take this criticism of pit bull to the level of like not being able to function anymore, like not being able to have a polite or rational conversation, there is. And I say, this in love. Like there is something that you need to dig into there. There is. I'm not saying that you

Starting point is 00:07:36 have to change your mind on pit bulls, but if you devolve into almost a temper, a toddler like temper tantrum, when someone criticizes pit bulls, then you need to just dig down deep and ask yourself why that is, like why they are on such a pedestal. Okay. They're animals. They are animals. And I'm talking about an animal versus the safety of image bears. And I am going to side on that side. Again, maybe you disagree with a variety of arguments within that argument. And that is fine. I'm not saying that you don't care about human beings too. But let's cool our jets. Let's cool our jets. The fact that people, like so much rage is inspired around Pipples actually makes me like dig my fall boot heels in even more. Because I'm like, okay, there is like, there's something weird going on about the just, if I am able to say, rabid defense of pit bulls.

Starting point is 00:08:40 If you don't know what I'm talking about, go back and listen to Thursday's episode. We also talked about a lot of other things, too, that maybe you'll get something out of it. And I hope that we can be friends. I really do. I hope that we can be friends disagreeing on, disagreeing on pit bulls. This is not a salvation issue. It's not a secondary theological issue. It's not a tertiary.

Starting point is 00:08:59 theological issue. It doesn't even come on like four or five or six or seven on the list. Maybe like number 10, but we got a lot of disagreements before that that we can have and still be friends, right? All right. Thanks for listening to that little rant. All right. I want to get into this Dylan Mulvaney story. Hey, this is Steve Deast. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality.

Starting point is 00:09:40 We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this Steve Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. All right. So we are going to watch a little clip from this interview that was platformed by

Starting point is 00:10:16 Ulta Beauty. They have a podcast that's called The Beauty of. The premise of this podcast is apparently to feature conversations that widen the lens surrounding traditional beauty standards. It's hosted by a person named David Lopez. This person says that he is quote unquote gender fluid wears a lot of makeup and dresses and things like that also has a beard. The first episode of this podcast is called The Beauty of Fatness Features like an obese woman talking about like taking her body back from a fatphobic society. We have talked about the kind of the goods and the bads of the so-called body positivity movement in the past.

Starting point is 00:10:59 If I can find that previous episode, I will try to link it. the description here. And in this particular episode, they talked about this person, David Lopez, and this person named Dylan Mulvaney, about quote unquote, the beauty of girlhood. Now, Dylan Mulvaney is a very, very popular TikToker with tens of millions of followers and also has a very large platform on Instagram. And honestly, it's not hard for me to see why. And before I get into describing all of this, let me just saying, case you're new here, I do not use pronouns that are mismatched with someone's biology because I do not believe that biology is bigotry and because, as I will explain in detail in just

Starting point is 00:11:45 a minute, I believe that God made us male and female in his image. It is not okay for me. It is not acceptable for me to lie and to perpetuate a delusion that I think is not just harmful to the individual but is harmful to society as a whole. And so I will not use she, her for someone that I know is a man. And Dylan Mulvaney, while he is trying to be not just a woman, but says that he is trying to be a girl, is a man. And I think it is good to be a man. I think God that God made our bodies purposely. And it's good to be a man. It's good to be a woman. And I don't think that that is bigoted at all. And I'm going to affirm the identity that God gave him when, he created Dylan inside the womb. So I will be saying he. Now, I understand why Dylan is popular,

Starting point is 00:12:39 as I was saying. He is very entertaining. He comes across is very likable. His background, I believe, is in acting and maybe singing. I think that he was in musical, musical theater. And that very much comes across. So I totally understand why he is, why he is so popular. But I also, as you can imagine, understand why he has inspired so much controversy. And it's because of how he presents not just himself, but girlhood. So before I play you a clip of this interview that we are going to then discuss and I'll respond to, let me play you just a little montage in case you don't know who Dylan Mulvaney is of his, what he calls journey to girlhood.

Starting point is 00:13:26 Day one of being a girl and I have already cried three times. Day two of being a woman. I am at the Rose Bowl flea market with my best friend and we are wearing matching dresses. Day three of being a girl and I've already become a bimbo. Day seven of being a girl and oh my gosh, one whole week of being publicly a woman. Day 10 of girlhood and today I am singing. I need to pick out a few female songs. So let's see which ones we like.

Starting point is 00:13:50 13 of being a girl and it feels like Christmas morning. I am finally going to get laser hair removal on my face. in my body. So in March of this year, he announced his transgender identity. He started to TikTok series called Days of Girlhood. And he documents each day of his transition. Now, maybe you watch that or listen to that and you're like, I thought you said that this was like entertaining and you don't see how this is likable at all. I do understand why to a large group of people. This is something that they want to watch. He said that he is becoming a. He is becoming a, woman, but he still wants to, this is a grown man, adult man.

Starting point is 00:14:29 He says that he wants to call himself a girl. And so that is who this person is. That is how he has amassed so many followers. And I'll also talk about all of that whole branding of himself and of what he thinks is femininity after I play this clip. This is from that Ulta beauty. interview. Now I know I can find love. I know I can still be a performer. I know that I can have a family. I want to be a mom one day. And I absolutely can. And that's why the narrative still has a long way

Starting point is 00:15:08 to go. Because when I was grieving boy Dylan, I didn't know those things were even accessible to me. So before I respond to that what I think, and this is like the nicest way I can say it, is like ridiculous statement. Before I respond to that ridiculous statement about wanting to become a mom, I also, like another aspect of this person that I understand people are attracted to is that he comes across as very vulnerable and very gentle and also very honest. Like he will talk about like the different kinds of like procedures that he wants and like hormones and things like that. And so I think people like what seems like a level of transparency and vulnerability. people like that on social media and general. And you can kind of see that come across there.

Starting point is 00:16:00 However, people were not deceived by or they weren't taken in by his delivery. It didn't soften the blow at all. On Twitter, Ulta got absolutely dragged and lambasted for this because this is two grown men telling an audience of women what it is like to be a girl. And over the next couple days, you were going to see a lot in conservative media of people mocking this. And I think that that is justified. I think that mocking false and harmful ideas is actually a healthy and necessary way to make an important and truthful point. That's why I believe in satire. That's why I do it when I can, because it makes a point in an ironic way, which is sometimes even more effective than literalism.

Starting point is 00:16:54 And so there's going to be a lot of mockery in the next few days. But I do on this episode, I want to take the time to dig a little bit deeper on this. A lot of women are saying that this is really sad for women because it erases women. It belittles motherhood. It's insulting to moms. And I understand that because we are getting it from both sides. as women when it comes to this transgender movement, if you will. For the women who claim to be men, we all have to be birthing people and minstrators so

Starting point is 00:17:27 is not to offend them. And then for the men who claim to be women, we have to allow them into our private spaces on our sports teams and share titles and characteristics with them like motherhood that have always been unique to the female experience. Personally, though, while I understand all of that, and while I do think that is, absolutely a form of erasure and that is something to be angry about and to even mourn over. I do not personally feel like he is taking away from my femininity. Like I don't feel lesser at all.

Starting point is 00:18:05 I don't feel like he is diminishing my experience as a mother. And this is what I mean by that. When I see a clip like that, I feel more gratitude than ever for who I am. when I read a lot of the posts that circulate on Twitter from Reddit from the men who are trying to be women who are like really, really wanting to be perceived as a woman and have female experiences and they have to like jump through all of these hoops just to pretend to be a woman to try to get a feeling that they're a woman to try to convince other people that they're a woman. Like I am just so grateful for the thing that maybe, I mean, I've always been happy about, but maybe took for granted before that I. am a woman. I don't have to try. Like, I actually am a mom. And the experience I have as both of those things is real. I don't have to fake it. I don't have to have procedures to be a woman. I don't have to change anything. I don't have to declare my pronouns. God made me one. He made me, he made me a girl

Starting point is 00:19:04 in my mother's womb, who is also a woman in her mother's womb and on and on and on and on. And God made me a mom. That's incredible. Wow, I realize honestly more than ever because of all of this, how amazing it is and how thankful I am for that. I am so grateful for and so confident in my femininity that a man playing a caricature of a girl or a woman truly cannot do anything to diminish that. So praise God. And you should be praising God to, whether you're a man or a woman, you should be praising God that you're a man because it's good to be a man. I know that in A lot of ways society tells you that it's not and tries to hinder and inhibit true healthy masculinity in a lot of ways, but it's good to be a man. It's good to be a woman.

Starting point is 00:19:52 It's good to be feminine. It's good to be able to do the things that only our bodies can. That is what we should, by the way, as parents be telling our kids, it is good to be a boy. It is good to be a girl. Your body is good. Your characteristics are good. we should be trying to cultivate this kind of gratitude and confidence in our kids from the youngest age that we possibly can. And so I don't actually feel when I watch this. I know a lot of

Starting point is 00:20:22 people feel like something's being robbed from them. And I get that. That is, I think, a valid concern and a valid feeling because that is, I don't think that that is this person's desire. Like, I don't think that that is his goal in this. But I understand how people feel like that is an indirect consequence of something like this and a company like Ulta promoting something like this, that's not personally how I feel because this person, what he is trying to represent as much as he calls himself a girl, he represents a caricature of a woman. This is a grown man playing a character of a preteen girl. He calls himself a girl.

Starting point is 00:21:01 And that is not only disturbing. It is insulting in a lot of ways to actual women. This person in all of his videos, as you saw a little bit a few minutes ago, reduces femininity down to silliness and flamboyance and clutziness. And I don't know a single woman or even a single girl who acts like that. So this is overcompensation. It is a man trying to figure out what femininity is and being unable to successfully do so. And I understand, again, why he has so many followers. I understand why this has some entertainment value.

Starting point is 00:21:37 And I understand, actually, you might be so confused about this, but I understand why many women like him. Women are attracted platonically to non-threatening males. I haven't fully unpacked why, but since the dawn of the gay best friend, or maybe even the dawn of time, since it was possible for girls to friends own a guy, women have liked being around masculine energy that is not a threat to. their safety. I might be controversial to say, I think it's absolutely true. I'm sure there's some kind of study or some kind of literature on that out there. That's just my personal observation.

Starting point is 00:22:13 And this person, I think, has mistaken that support for affirmation of his stated identity or validation of his stated identity, solidification of it. Like he has he has mistaken all of the compliments in all of the following as authenticating who he says that he is. He said recently, he said, the world sees me as a girl. And I promise, and again, this is not me trying to be mean. This is trying to affirm who God has made as a male. The world does not see this person as a girl. Go to any person outside of Western civilization and he can put on makeup, heels, and address and ask a person in China or Zambia or India or Iraq what he is. Heck, most people in the West wouldn't even bring themselves to say that this person is a

Starting point is 00:23:10 girl or a woman just like actual girls and women. There's a very small percentage of people who have convinced themselves that gender is actually something that you identify as. There's a lot of people who say that they believe that. There's a lot of people that will function politically like that. There are a lot of doctors who will make money off of that belief. but when you get down to what people really believe, there are very few people that have diluted themselves so far into believing that.

Starting point is 00:23:38 That a grown man with a five o'clock shadow can be a girl. Okay? That is the truth. That is not rude. That is not mean. Saying a man looks like a man or a woman looks like a woman is not mean-spirited. That is affirming reality. I do not have ill will towards this person.

Starting point is 00:23:56 I do not wish him harm. and I understand the manipulative tactic that is always employed that says, well, if you say that a man who thinks he's a woman as a man, you're perpetrating abuse and encouraging self-harm, but that is emotional extortion used to silence people out of telling the truth. Talk to any detransitioner, which I know a lot of people are uncomfortable doing, and they will tell you that their suicidal ideation had nothing to do with being misgendered or pronouns or people not affirming them, but instead had to do with a lot of underlying mental issues that were not being addressed. My goal, my goal is not to offend, although I know that this is offensive. That's not my goal. It's not to hurt is to tell the truth. And it's not just any truth because some truths don't need to be said, right? Like if you see someone and you don't like their outfit, you don't need to tell that truth. Or you don't, like, their pants don't match their shirt and you're not on that level of friendship to where like they really want to know.

Starting point is 00:24:54 there are some truths that are not necessary. This is a necessary truth. Because under the guise of authenticity and affirmation, this ideology is encouraging people to be what they are not. And then it is infringing upon the rights of women in sports, in abuse shelters, in prisons. It's breaking families apart. It's encouraging minors to go through with life altering, sterilizing, genitalia, maiming procedures. So telling the truth here is the most compassionate. and necessary thing that we can do. Dylan can never become a mom because he is not a woman. He would have to buy the eggs of one woman and rent the womb of another woman to do what he never can and that is bear a child. That baby will then go into his arms the arms of a stranger who doesn't

Starting point is 00:25:43 smell or feel like the woman who birthed him who doesn't smell or feel like woman at all and will not feel the instinctive connection and longing that a child has for her mother. Also, he can perpetuate a delusion at the expense of the right of a child to a mom and a dad at the expense of the long-term well-being of a child who has an innate desire to know from whom she comes. He will likely go through his process and the hope that doing so will make him a mom and it will not. Now, maybe he will adopt. That would be better than buying eggs and renting womb, which is, as we've talked about many times, not much different than prostitution. This is, it's often desperate women who are given the opportunity to make a lot of money and they

Starting point is 00:26:29 sell their bodies taking on all kinds of risks, many of which they're not, they don't even know about to feed their families. But he would still not be a mother because he is not a woman. And nothing will change that. Now, maybe he could have been an amazing father. I'm not doubting that he would love his child, but amazing dads still are not. moms. All right. Let me talk about this a little bit further in on a deeper and more theological level. And this is the most important part. And there might be some of you out there who have

Starting point is 00:27:20 never heard someone speak clearly about this. I might be the first person that you've heard talked clearly about this. I hope that you'll go listen to some previous episodes that we will link in the description of this podcast so you can learn more about this. Most people are afraid of being called a name. They're afraid of being called a transphobe. And so they just go along to get along. They go with the mainstream. One of the things that we say on this podcast is that we are salmon. We are swimming upstream. When everyone is going one direction, we try to go the other. Actually, let me tell you this metaphor before I get into the rest of my explanation. But I was thinking, so I go to this workout class and it's really important to stay on the beat. And there are sometimes when the

Starting point is 00:28:02 entirety of the class is almost the entirety of the class is on the wrong beat. And in order for me to stay on the correct beat that I can hear, I have to close my eyes. And I just have to listen to the music and do the move that I know is right at the right time, even if the people who are around me are on the wrong beat. Or else the entire, I mean, or else it's just chaos or else you can't even like enjoy the workout. And so that is also true when it comes to truth. That's also truth when it comes to morality in reality. There are going to be times when everyone around you is offbeat. And maybe they're just a little offbeat or maybe they're doing completely different movements, but you hear the music. You know God's word. You know what is true. And you have to close your eyes to

Starting point is 00:28:52 what other people are doing and simply follow what you know is right. And that is true. Certainly when it to these cultural issues that put so much pressure on us, especially believers, to just swim downstream. It's really easy to kind of fall into these nonsensical maxims like, oh, just live your truth. That person is just living their truth or, oh, this person is just embracing authenticity and isn't it just good to be yourself or follow your heart or, well, whatever, make someone happy or just follow your dreams. I wrote an entire book about these lies that came out in 2020 called You're Not Enough and That's Okay, escaping the toxic culture of self-love and how they can lead to the delusion of gender ideology, but also to justifying all different kinds of

Starting point is 00:29:42 sin and irrationality. So we'll link that too. But people also fall into even crazier, even more illogical and even circular maxims, like trans women are women. Like that doesn't make any sense if you actually try to define those words in any concrete sense. Or maybe you and those around you have convinced to yourself that this just doesn't affect you. Like, why does it even matter? And we've talked a lot on many episodes about how this tangibly affects people and why it matters. So you can go back and listen to those. But let me try to make a case to you from a biblical standpoint.

Starting point is 00:30:26 While I understand why a secular person might cling to these sayings and come to those conclusions, these are simply not options for the Christian. It's not a mentality that aligns with Christianity at all. As Christians, we do not believe in our truth or their truth. We do not believe that authenticity is a replacement for reality or morality. We do not believe that happiness is an. excuse for delusion. We do not believe that male or female is something that can be declared, decided, or identified as, because the very first chapter of the Bible makes clear that God

Starting point is 00:30:59 made us in his image as male and female. God created the gender binary, and he saw that it was very good. The binary is reiterated throughout scripture. It is even the basis for the most significant union and symbol in the Bible, and that is marriage. Ephesians 5 tells us that the marriage between one husband and one wife is a depiction of the eternal union between Christ, the bridegroom, and the church his bride. Just as the church submits to Christ, wives are to submit to their husbands. Just as Christ sacrificed himself for the church, so husbands are to sacrifice themselves for their wives.

Starting point is 00:31:38 So we see that the definition of both gender and marriage are not simply physical realities that God made, but also point to a spiritual eternal reality. In alliteration that I often use, that I've used many times, you've heard if you've been listening to Relatable for any amount of time. The definition of gender and marriage in the Bible is rooted in creation. It is reiterated throughout scripture in places like honor your father and mother. That's the first commandment with a promise. Those gender roles and gender identifications are not arbitrary.

Starting point is 00:32:19 They are not switchable. They're not accidental. They are purposeful. Honor your father and mother. It's repeated by Jesus himself, Matthew 19, 4 through 5, representative of Christ and the church, as we see in Ephesians 5, and therefore is reflective of the gospel. So to be made in God's image is to be made male or female. This is the basis of not only existence, but also the basis of marriage, which is the basis of the family, which is the foundation of any functioning and flourishing society. So to purposely try to distort that by repudiating God's creation is not only a disruption to society, which then causes chaos, it is not only an assault on the person as an image bearer, but most significantly it is an affront to God.

Starting point is 00:33:10 It is blasphemy. It is the worst form of idolatry because it is self idolatry. It is an exchange of the God of Scripture for the God of Self. At least people who worship say a carve an image realize that they have to go outside of themselves for the power and for the wisdom that they're looking for. But those who exchange the God of Scripture for the God of self have been so deluded by their idolatry that they actually believe that they are sufficient in themselves to find everything that they need. The God of Scripture demands that we submit to who he says that we are. What he says is good and right and true, whereas the God of self wants to simply submit to every feeling, to every whim. And that is why the burden and the yoke of the God of self is so heavy and so difficult.

Starting point is 00:34:03 But the burden that Jesus offers is light. And the yoke that Jesus places on us is easy. because he tells us who we are. He says our identity. He says what our purpose is. He says where our joy comes from. He is where our joy comes from. We don't have to follow our hearts.

Starting point is 00:34:23 We don't have to follow our feelings. We believe in the Jesus who is the same yesterday, today, and forever, Hebrews 13, 8, who also says in Matthew 19, 4 through 5 that we were made male and female. Easy. Easy. We don't have to struggle with determinants. of trying to figure out who we are and whose we are because God has already told us that is the liberation and the joy and the freedom that comes from Christianity that comes from the

Starting point is 00:34:52 gospel and the order that comes from the biblical worldview. The worldview that is underlying transgenderism says that who we really are is what we feel on the inside. People will say that Dylan is being himself because he is trying to manifest what he feels. Rejects that form of superficial and distorted authenticity. Christianity rather has a high view of the body as something that is a part of your identity. A high view of physical reality. We believe that God made our bodies. From our chromosomes to our extremities, they were purposely designed.

Starting point is 00:35:29 We believe that God loves our bodies. 1 Corinthians 619 says that the Christian's body is a dwelling place for the Holy Spirit. Jesus is God made flesh. He died a bodily death. on the cross and was raised in a bodily resurrection. One day we are going to be raised in a bodily resurrection too. That's how significant to God the body is. That body that he knit together in our mother's womb will one day rise from the tomb. That is how significant our body is to God. Far be it from us to try to distort it or mutilate it or change it to be a different

Starting point is 00:36:10 than what God created us to be. We do not as Christians believe it is possible to self-create or self-identify or self-declare because God created us and identified us in the beginning and declares who we are. That is not our responsibility. That is not our job. And I understand there are always going to be people who look for exceptions and say, well, what about intersex?

Starting point is 00:36:37 What about people who have chromosomal abnormalities? What do you say about people who have different body parts that put them somewhere in the middle? Okay, that is a disability. That is an anomaly. Just because there are some people that are born with one leg does not mean that human beings are not bipeds. We understand the rule in that the exception does not rewrite the rule. And someone who is born intersex is not the same as someone who is a man deciding when he is 30 years. old that he wants to be a girl. It's not the same thing at all. And I actually think that it's crazy

Starting point is 00:37:13 and even rude to try to lump those people who were born with that abnormality into a movement that is primarily driven by sex and the feelings that someone has on the inside. And so that is why, and that's a pretty thorough summary of why I think it is so important for us to talk about this for us to care about this, especially as Christians, and this is not something to be wishy-washy on. This should be easy for the Christian. It goes back to the first chapter of the first book of the Bible. If you're not going to be clear on Genesis 127, it is really hard for me to believe that you will be clear on the far more controversial verse in the Bible, which is John 14.6. Genesis 127, God made us in his image male and female. He created us. John 146,

Starting point is 00:38:06 Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through him. The reason I say that is because John 146 is a lot more controversial than Genesis 1.27. Genesis 127 is seen through reality. I mean, it's seen through science. Even a person who doesn't believe that the Bible is God's inspired word can see that we are made male and female. They may delude themselves into thinking otherwise, but it is scientifically obvious that we are sexually dimorphic. but John 146 saying that Jesus is the only way to heaven that we are all dead in our sin apart from him that we need him to be reconciled to the Father, that we need him to forgive us of our sins, to absolve us of our iniquity so we can be free of the bonds of sin today but also spend eternity with God. That is controversial.

Starting point is 00:38:57 The gospel is controversial. I have a hard time believing. If you won't go against the culture when it comes to something as obvious, as gender that you're going to go against the culture when it comes to who Jesus is. So that's just something to chew on. That's something to consider. All right. So I wanted to talk and I wish I had more time to spend on this one because I really kind of

Starting point is 00:39:30 wanted to break it down. But with a follow up and a follow up to an episode that I did last week on Herschel Walker and the Christian Walker, his son, controversy. The question that I asked was, should Christians vote for Herschel Walker? I kind of laid out my thought process about that. What I thought about Christian, what I thought about the story about Herschel Walker. Allegedly, according to the Daily Beast, paying for an abortion in 2009, he denies that. I did want to look at the debate between Herschel Walker and his opponent, Democrat, Raphael Warnock,

Starting point is 00:40:03 who I think from everything that we know about him, not just his values and how he will vote, but also just the stuff about his personal life that has come out, I think is a terrible, terrible candidate, obviously. I mean, he's anti-life, he is anti-every-biblical value while calling himself a pastor. So they had a debate in Georgia, and Herschel Walker did well. Like, people were very impressed by how he did. So let me play you this first clip where Raphael Warnock brings up the allegation that he, that Herschel paid for this abortion in 2009. And here is Herschel Walker's response to that. As I said, that's a lie. And, you know, what most thing I put, I put it in a book. One thing about my life is I've been very transparent. Not like the senator. He's hid things. But at the same time, I said, that's a lie. And on abortion, you know, I'm a Christian. I believe in life. And I tell people this, Georgia is a state that respects life. And I'll be a senator that protects life. And I said, that was a lie. And I'm not backing down. Okay, so he says that it was a lie.

Starting point is 00:41:12 Christian Walker seems to think that it was true and that it was his handwriting on the receipt. And so, but he is saying, look, I support life. Now, obviously, Raphael Warnock or any of the Democrats in the audience should not have any moral qualms with that because they think that should be totally fine for someone to be paying for an abortion. I think people are pointing out that it would be hypocritical if that happened. I really hope that it is absolutely not true because it would be hypocritical and it would have been much better for him to be honest about that up front and to say, you know what, I've been sanctified.

Starting point is 00:41:47 God saved me from that and I've repented and I regret that. I think a lot of people would have a lot of forgiveness in their heart. So I hope that he's not lying. I do hope that he is telling the truth about that, but he handled that question as well as he could. All right, let's play this next clip. I stand where I've said I've stand in the past, that a patient's room is too narrow and small and cramped a space for a woman, her doctor, and the United States government. We are witnessing right now what happens when politicians, most of them men, pile into

Starting point is 00:42:20 patients' rooms. You get what you're seeing right now. He's a neat talker, but did he not mention that there was a baby in that room as well? And also, did he not mention that he asking the taxpayer to pay for it? So he's bringing the government back into the room. So he's not talking about that. Mm-hmm. That is a good point. He did really well.

Starting point is 00:42:46 Well, first of all, he is much more on assuming. And he doesn't have nearly as much pretense as Raphael Warnock does. He seems like a much more down to earth. That's how he comes across. It's a much more down-to-earth person than Raphael Warnock. He's right. He's a neat talker. He's a neat talker.

Starting point is 00:43:07 smooth talker. He knows how to say things like, oh, the room is too cramped. It's too cramped for the doctor in the United States government and a woman. And Herschel Walker brought up a great point. There's a baby in that room too. So if that's your argument that the government has no say in when we kill someone, and when someone can be assaulted, then you're basically making the argument that there should be no law at all against murder or against assault. Why is it different just because the human being happens to reside in a woman's womb, just because the human happens to be small, just because the human being happens to be underdeveloped.

Starting point is 00:43:44 That is a justification for it to be legal, to murder someone. That seems horrific, especially for someone who considers himself a Christian, like Raphael Warnock. And that's an amazing point, too, that Herschel Walker makes that actually you do want the government. You want the government in the business of abortion because you want the government to force taxpayers,

Starting point is 00:44:06 to fund abortions. So you're bringing the government in and you're bringing all the taxpayers in the room. You want to talk about a cramped doctor's room, try to fit the entire state of Georgia and their tax dollars in the doctor's room. And that's exactly what Raphael Warnock wants. There is nothing more wicked than forcing human beings,

Starting point is 00:44:24 forcing citizens of the United States to pay for the slaughter of babies. And that is what Raphael Warnock wants. All right. I think we have, is it one more clip or? Okay, here's a clip that a lot of people, were talking about online. One thing I have not done, I've never pretended to be a police officer. And I've never, I've never threatened a shootout with the police.

Starting point is 00:44:52 And now I have to respond to that. We are moving on, gentlemen. And you know what? So funny, I am with many police officers. And at the same time. Mr. Walker, Mr. Walker. No, no, no, no, no, Mr. Walker, excuse me, Mr. Walker, please, out of respect, I need to let you know, Mr. Walker, you are very well aware of the rules tonight. Yes.

Starting point is 00:45:16 And you have a prop. Yes. That is not allowed, sir. I ask you to put that prop away. Where it's not a prop. This is real. So a lot of people are talking about that, making fun of Herschel Walker. He was an honorary deputy.

Starting point is 00:45:28 I don't think that he ever said, as far as I know, that he was actually, you know, like a police officer in the same way. was an honorary deputy and he did help the police force work with people who were having mental health issues. And he has talked about his own mental health episode. So that's what Raphael Warnock was bringing up there. So this is an election to watch. I mean, Raphael Warnock is about as wicked as they come when you're thinking about who to vote for. Go back, listen to my previous episode for just kind of how I am thinking, thinking through that particular election. the difficult allegations, I think, for Christians who want to be thoughtful and how we vote and whom we vote for. All right. There was a whole other story that I wanted to talk about. I don't have time to get into that. I'll respond to it tomorrow or Wednesday because I could have like a whole 30 minute monologue on this particular viral tweet about marriage. But I will talk about it soon. We've got a lot of great interviews. Tomorrow I'm super excited. So I am talking to a guest. He goes by.

Starting point is 00:46:45 the moniker Chris beats cancer. And he talks a lot not just about different ways to combat cancer before your diagnosis or after your diagnosis that I find interesting. But he also talks a lot about pink washing and how breast cancer awareness month is not what you think. And I thought that was fascinating when I first heard it. So he's going to come on the show and explain exactly what he means. If you can think of questions that you have, particularly when it comes to breast cancer,

Starting point is 00:47:15 he offers or he believes that veganism can help with these kinds of health issues. And so if you have any questions about that or about pink washing, let me know. And I'll try to get those questions to him tomorrow. And I will see you guys back here then. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and

Starting point is 00:47:45 reality itself. on the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this Steve Day Show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts.

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