Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 711 | The Climate Cabal Doubles Down on Depopulation | Guest: Marc Morano

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.

Starting point is 00:00:19 We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. The world's global leaders met at a climate summit this month in Egypt. What did they talk about? The radical transformation of society. But don't worry, Klaus Schwab says it's for your own good.

Starting point is 00:00:54 I'm going to be talking to Mark Moreno today. is the author of a book called The Great Reset Global Elites and the Permanent Lockdown. He has written several other books about this subject. We're going to talk about climate change today and also this climate change conference and what the global leaders are cooking up. Now, if you are like me, this conversation kind of makes you feel demoralized, scared, hopeless. Well, he's going to have some words of encouragement for us at the end, but I also wanted to start off with this reminder. I love this passage from Psalm 2. Also Psalm 37, one of my favorite passages, as you know, is a great compliment to this. But let me read you this and just keep this in mind as we talk to Mark

Starting point is 00:01:41 today. This is Psalm 2 verses 1 through 4. We'll see. It might be longer than that. Why did the nations rage in the people's plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves and the rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against his anointed saying, let us burst their bonds apart and cast away their cords from us. He who sits in the heavens laughs. The Lord holds them in derision. Then he will speak to them in his wrath and will terrify them in his fury, saying, as for me, I have set my king on Zion, my holy hill.

Starting point is 00:02:18 So we remember through all of this that God is in charge that he is bigger than the American government, then world governments, then China, then the World Economic Forum, and that nothing is too difficult for him and that nothing can thwart his will, as Job 42 says. So we always have hope. I mean, we have hope in this life, but more importantly, we have hope eternally too. Now, before we get into that conversation, just a couple of things I want to say, we have Christmas merch for you guys, and we have this amazing shirt. If you're watching this on YouTube, you can see the design, super excited about it. I had a rough idea of what I wanted it to look like, but your girl is not an artist.

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Starting point is 00:03:34 We'll sell it in all the fun Christmas colors. And we'll have a Black Friday deal, too, that we'll announce later in the week. And so, yes, I'm so excited for that. So we will link it in the description of this episode now. And this episode, it's also brought to you by friends at Good Ranchers. So go to Good Ranchers.com slash Alley. That's good ranchers.com slash Alley. Well, Mr. Marano, thank you so much for joining us. Can you tell everyone who might not know who you are and what you do? Mark Marano, the publisher of Climate Depot, daily information source for environment, climate energy news, former the United States Senate Environment Public Works Committee, and the author of several books, including Green Fraud,

Starting point is 00:04:24 Why, the Green New Deal is worse than you think, and also the great resets, global elites and the permanent lockdown. How did this become your expertise? Good question. I grew up, what I would always say as a Republican, except when it came to environmental issues. I was a volunteer on Ronald Reagan's 1980 campaign, so I was always concerned about environmental issues. As such, I got caught up in the Save the Rainforest campaigns in the 90s, and then by the time, I realized that, that we'd been essentially exaggerated all these climate things. I ended up doing a documentary on the Amazon Rainforest back and filmed it in the late 90s.

Starting point is 00:05:04 It aired in 2000. And that really opened my eyes to all the exaggeration and falsehoods that were being perpetrated from sometimes legitimate environmental concerns and now they would exploit it. So when climate came along, I was already pretty much skeptical and I worked in the Senate Environment

Starting point is 00:05:20 and Public Works Committee. And then when this COVID came along and did the great, reset, COVID lockdowns, which then led to the world economic form pronouncing time for a great reset, I had learned everything about COVID lockdowns and censorship from my two decades fighting the climate battle. It's like that book from the 1980s, everything I needed to know I learned in kindergarten. Well, everything I needed to know about COVID lockdowns, the great reset, I had learned during the climate debate. It was the same exact template. So I approached this whole

Starting point is 00:05:50 issue, all these issues, as an investigative reporter. I have a background and community. communications and reporting. I was a White House Capitol Hill press credentialed, and I worked as a working journalist and investigative journalist did documentaries on a host of environmental issues from wetlands, endangered species, and agriculture and that. So that's my background. I'm not a scientist, but I like to say I sometimes play one on TV, and that really riles up some of the other side. there are a lot of issues that have probably been exaggerated or that we've been given misinformation about and yet this climate issue is one that has persisted for decades and it's really amazing how wrong the scientists and the so-called climate experts have been in a lot of their predictions

Starting point is 00:06:39 and yet they are still given credibility we are still told that we have to believe them unconditionally And not only that, but it's got a hold of at least one whole political party in the United States and also global leaders. I mean, you talked about the World Economic Forum. This is like their issue. How did that happen? I mean, there are a lot of issues that I guess we could have taken hold of and said, this is our issue and we really have to fight for this, whatever it is. How did this become the interest of so many people in power? Well, and by previous book Green Fraud, I go through the origins of essentially the Green New Deal.

Starting point is 00:07:20 And what we find out, if you go back to the 1960s, before there was climate change, there was the overpopulation myth by Paul Erlich, the overpopulation. The population bomb is what it was called, worried about overpopulation. And he made all of the same kind of climate catastrophe things, but this time using overpopulation. He said we would be running out of food, resource scarcity, there'd be famines, there'd be mass deaths, that the, the world needed to have radical transformation. And by the way, central planning. And then in the 1970s, you had a man-made global cooling scare. And this was legit.

Starting point is 00:07:56 I mean, get all these scientists write a letter to President Nixon at the time, warning of man-made global cooling. So before fossil fuels caused global warming, fossil fuels allegedly caused man-made global cooling. They thought our aerosols from the burning of fossil fuels were blocking out the sun, which I wish I could do on the right side of my head there. They thought that was causing this essentially global dimming, which was cooling the earth, and they were blaming bad weather, wars, famines, all sorts of things on man-made global cooling. And here's the interesting thing, I spent a whole chapter in my book showing that the solutions

Starting point is 00:08:28 to all of these previous environmental scares, overpopulation, global cooling, even the species extinction and deforestation, the solution was always the same. more government control, more sovereignty limiting treaties, an end of private property rights, an end of free markets, massive wealth redistribution. So the reason global warming has persisted, and it really didn't kick in until 1989, when NASA scientist James Hansen testified in the Hill in 1988, and then also the United Nations formed their climate panel. That's when it all, they basically said, we're going to get all the environmental issues,

Starting point is 00:09:05 think of it like a big poker game, but all our chips in on climate. And that's what they've done. So every other issue has been subservient to climate since then. And guess what the solutions to the climate were? The exact same solutions to every previous environmental scare. And that's what we face right now. And if you go back and look at the Rio Earth Summit from 1992, which then President George H.W. Bush attended. They literally sound the United Nations Sustainable Development.

Starting point is 00:09:32 It reads like a carbon copy of the Green New Deal. And I detail here's excerpts from the United Nations Sustainable Development in the early 90s. here's AOC's a Green New Deal. So all that is is a retread of the past several decades of the same climate solutions for previous environmental scares. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political.

Starting point is 00:10:02 They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false. comfort, we ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about

Starting point is 00:10:28 where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. So basically what you're saying is that the reason that this game so much traction, especially among what we would call elites or, you know, global leaders is because it is such an effective vehicle for power. And for the radical transformation of economies, of political systems, of society, basically if you can tell people that there is an existential threat and you and your family are going to die and the world as you know it is going to come to an end unless we do something, unless we take control, then I guess they think that that is a good enough premise,

Starting point is 00:11:15 a good enough reason to take control and to kind of enact that radical transformation. Is there any legitimacy, though, like you were talking about in the 1960s and 70s, about these people who thought that there was a great global cooling and changed the global warming, like, is there any legitimacy in this climate science, or is it all activism? Yeah, in fact, I was just hit by the BBC came out, You believe in climate change is caused by man. Here's the way you break it down. It's not a simple question in that regard, but mankind is not driving any climate climate catastrophe or climate emergency.

Starting point is 00:11:55 Can mankind influence the climate? Yes. Our CO2 emissions can cause some level of warming, but at this point, many of the climate scientists say you can't even detect natural, what the climate would be naturally versus what it would be with mankind's influence. In other words, there are quite literally hundreds of factors that influence the climate. It's the most complex system known to man and everything from tilt to the Earth's axis to water vapor to clouds to methane to volcanoes to the sun and all these feedbacks come up with the global temperature. So the idea that they can pick one politically selected factor on the margin, carbon dioxide, and then say if we control that, we can control storms and weather's and hurricanes. And here's the kicker, Ali, on every time scale.

Starting point is 00:12:38 And this is acknowledged in national climate assessments and even UN reports buried deep. Hurricane, floods, tornadoes, droughts, wildfires are either not increasing or on declining trends on 50 to 100 year timescales. Now, what they do to make everything sound scary and still be correct scientifically, they'll pick an area, say, Southwest California, and they'll pick, say, a 15-year period, and they'll say, the drought in this one's particular area is unprecedented. And our climate model show if we don't do something, it could be, you know, the entire country will be in drought by the year 2100.

Starting point is 00:13:11 And they're technically right that that one area might be in an unprecedented drought, but unprecedented and record weather events and historic events happen every day, everywhere on the planet have always happened. It's kind of like when you go into a casino and you see all the signs of the people winning the slot machines. You get the impression that everyone wins it's playing the slots. Well, if you watch the news or listen to Al Gore, the UN, they claim that every day is unprecedented weather and records being broken. But on actual climate timescale, it's not happening.

Starting point is 00:13:41 And that includes sea level rise, which has been rising 10,000 plus years since the end of the last ice age, no acceleration. That includes polar bears. They are disappearing, but they're only disappearing from Al Gore's books and movies. He dropped them in his sequel 10 years after his first film. Why? Because they never counted so many polar bears. And it's generally known even the indigenous people acknowledge. Everyone acknowledges up in the Arctic that polar bears are at or near historic population highs.

Starting point is 00:14:07 And that's why you don't hear anyone talk about polar bears anymore. I also saw something because we hear about things like the Great Barrier Reef and how it's depleting. I actually saw that it's like at its record highest amount of coral in like 40 years or something like that. I mean, how does that happen if climate change is just getting worse and worse and all of our resources are being depleted? Yeah, in fact, I remember NBC News Today Show would do like during Earth Week. They would go and film at the barrier reef. This is decades ago. just warning of all the danger. All the new science is showing it's resilient, it's gaining

Starting point is 00:14:43 coverage, it's not dying as predicted. And this is true even of all these low-lying Pacific islands, the Maldives and Tuvalu. They're building airports, hotels. What happens is when current reality fails to alarm in the climate, they make scarier and scarier predictions of the future. And it's all based on models, which they Clyde claim as data. But it's just a prediction of tuned models that scientists put in these inputs, which they believe mankind. is driving a catastrophe. And of course, presto, they come out with scary scenarios. But just real quick, you mentioned the failed predictions. In 1995, New York Times predicted East Coast beaches, according to climate experts. East Coast beaches could be underwater. In 1989, the UN said we had a

Starting point is 00:15:26 10-year tipping point by which to act. In 2007, Al Gore issued the same 10-year tipping point. In my book, Green Fraud, I go back to 1864 when Abraham Lincoln was president. I found an academic, and named George Marsh Perkins, who actually warned that unless mankind change their evil ways, we face climatic excess. Abraham Lincoln was president when the first climate tipping point was issued. Wow. And you mentioned the population bomb. I think you said that that was written in the 1960s or 70s.

Starting point is 00:15:57 And that really goes all the way back to Thomas Malthus. I think that was the 18th century in the Malthusian catastrophe. And he theorized the same thing. Of course, I believe that was before the industrial. revolution so he couldn't even really see that actually human beings through innovation can create very efficient systems so that they are not just a drain on resources but are actually creating more resources for human beings and making it better to live and survive and thrive on earth. He really saw human beings only as detractors from the resources that we have and not contributors

Starting point is 00:16:32 to them. And even though that has been debunked, obviously just through time and history, we still see that reiterated today, not just in the 1960s and 70s, but that is a theme that we see at the World Economic Forum, that is a theme that we see among these global leaders, but that population is the problem. Warren Buffett is really kind of a Malthusian paranoid guy. A lot of the people that are funding the Democratic Party and a lot of these climate change, quote unquote, solutions are really concerned that there are too many people. And that, That concerns me that they're concerned with that. Yeah, in fact, Chuck Schumer just came out.

Starting point is 00:17:14 I think it was last week or earlier this week. Yes. And literally said, you know, that because Americans aren't reproducing, we have to welcome and legalize all these illegal immigrants because that's the only way our population. So I'm a little confused because suddenly they're now, the only place they embrace more population is through illegal immigration. But you're exactly right.

Starting point is 00:17:31 Al Gore was at a Bill Gates funded event at a panel with Bill Gates 2014. And he actually said, Africa is projected to have more people than China and India combined by mid-century. And he went on to talk about the need for ubiquitous fertility management in Africa in order basically to keep the number of Africans down because it was going to be a problem of some sort. That was the implication. I mean, this is still at the heart of everything. The Malthusium idea, the idea is that if left to our own, this is in fact the heart of the Great Reset,

Starting point is 00:18:03 if left to our own devices, meaning the masses, we're the unwashed mass. masses, Allie. We will create destruction of the earth. We will create a climate catastrophe. We'll create racism. We'll run out of resources. We'll just, we'll just create a mess. We need credentialed experts who study this, who have decades of experience and PhDs, to come in and manage not only our lives, but our society and every aspect of it. And then we can go along and live our little lives. In the words of the world economic form, you'll owe nothing, you'll be happy, you'll have no privacy, life will never be better, everything you want to be delivered by drone, the U.S. will no longer be a superpower, meat will be a rare and expensive treat,

Starting point is 00:18:43 et cetera, et cetera. That's their vision, and that's a vision that existed when Woodrow Wilson was president. They were trying, this is when it was introduced in the United States, the administrative state ruled by experts, and that, of course, has been the whole premise of essentially how to solve the mouthless problem of resource scarcity, and it's also been the heart at the climate debate where we have to give up national autonomy, you have to give up individual freedom, you have to give up free markets in order for the government and experts to rule over and basically save the planet because we will destroy it if left to our own devices. That's at the heart of this. And they actually believe they're doing good. It's important to mention that. The ideologues

Starting point is 00:19:22 believe they're doing good. They believe they're saving us from ourselves. Then, of course, you add in the profiteers, the corporations and the greenwashers and all the other hangar-on. and there's a lot of money to be made when you're transferring. But that's a different thing. But there are people who actually genuinely believe that they're doing the right thing here by taking away our freedom in order to manage us and save the planet, save public health, save us from viruses, save us from the climate, etc. Yes.

Starting point is 00:19:51 And the perfect transition into the conversation about what the elites or what the World Economic Forum is doing now is, well, I want to talk about this climate change conference that happened over the past few days in November that happened in Egypt and just to kind of piggyback on what you just said and to take us into the next part of this conversation, I want to play this clip from Klaus Schwab. He's the head of the World Economic Forum. And here he is talking about what, you know, I've been reliably told is just a conspiracy theory and that is the great reset and the radical transformation of society.

Starting point is 00:20:27 Here he is talking about that. What we have to confront is a deep, systemic and structural restructuring of our world. And this will take some time. And so we'll look differently after we have gone through this transition process. All right. So there was a lot more that he said along, you know, in that vein. But I think we get the picture.

Starting point is 00:20:57 He's talking about radically restructuring society, as you said, for the benefit of everyone. Can you translate that for us? What is he really talking about? He's talking about essentially giving up individual national sovereignty and giving up individual freedoms and turning over rule to experts. In fact, at his meeting in Davos, he said he looked at everyone in the room and these are billionaires, millionaires, corporate heads, government bureaucrats, Hollywood celebrities,

Starting point is 00:21:25 the royal family, Bill Gates. He looked at everyone and he said, we have in this room, we get to decide the future. of the planet. I mean, that's the kind of maniacal James Bond villain attitude he actually has. So what's significant, though, about this G20 speech you just played, Allie, he is now being treated as a head of state. You have, let's see, you have Albania, you have France, you have the United States, Canada. Oh, oh, and you have the World Economic Forum. Oh, they're president, Klaus Schwab is here too. It's now a nation state. It's reached that level status at a G20 summit where he can go up there and talk about radical restructuring, systemic restructuring of the

Starting point is 00:22:04 planet. And he gets literally the same VIP treatment. In fact, he had the same kind of local, I guess it was Indonesian Garbon to match the other world leaders at this summit. And what's amazing about that is how did he get to this position of power? Well, in the book I go back, it's founded 1971. And the key to the way the World Economic Forum is so powerful, they found a way for businesses, academics, and lobbyists and fundraisers to meet with politicians off the books outside the purview of lobbying, regulators, any oversight. And they have these annual meetings, and it's a free-for-all where you get corporations, government, celebrities, academia, all together.

Starting point is 00:22:47 And they're meeting, they're talking, they're, I hate to use the word conspiring, but they're planning. And this is how you end up with things like environment. social governance, ESG. This is how you get up, how you end up with all these corporate mandates. And what ultimately comes out of this, and this is the simplest way of looking at it, the Great Reset, the World Economic Forum, this whole agenda is to make it so we have no choice on some of the biggest questions of our lives. And just even down to the smallest. And here's a few examples. We didn't get to vote on whether gas powered cars would be banned. That was done by executive order

Starting point is 00:23:18 at California. Then the California Air Resources Board, unelected bureaucrats, came out with a timetable by 2035 banning it. Then the Biden administration is now looking into executive orders and administrative stateways to ban the car. Then the World Bank announced that they're going to stop financing gas-powered cars at the automaker level. Then a big bank in Australia announced they're not going to give out car loans to people who want to buy gas-powered cars.

Starting point is 00:23:42 So right there, there was no democracy. We never voted. This was corporate government collusion. This is bureaucrats. And the same thing goes on. We didn't vote for vaccine mandates. We didn't vote for lockdowns. We didn't vote to have churches closed.

Starting point is 00:23:53 We didn't vote to have schools closed. We didn't vote for mask mandates. We didn't vote for banning of meat. But all of this is happening because at these meetings, like the World Economic Forum and the United Nations, they meet and they work with government corporate collusion to bypass democracy. And then simple sentence, the Great Reset is basically making the once free West copy the same model as one-party Chinese authoritarian rule.

Starting point is 00:24:18 That is the Great Reset. They bypass democracy and impose stuff through this corporate government fascism. and we get told what's happening. We don't get to vote on it. There's no hearings in Congress. There's no town halls. There's no switchboards lighting up for a big vote. None of it.

Starting point is 00:24:33 We're just told the car's gone. Your meat eating's going. We're creating energy shortages. Sorry, you need a vaccine to go into this place. Sorry, your schools are closed. Sorry, your churches are closed. What, huh? How did that happen?

Starting point is 00:24:46 The Great Reset. So you think, and I mean, you know, through your research, you talked about this at the beginning, the parallel between the conversation about COVID from these same people in the conversations about climate change, they're almost identical that we have to transform society and kind of lock people down and really control people's behavior in order to save people. But as we saw in the lockdowns, that actually ended a lot of lives. I just saw a study that showed that one million cancer diagnoses went missed, estimated

Starting point is 00:25:30 over the past couple of years because people were told to stay home because they were scared to go to the doctor. They didn't die from COVID, but they did end up dying from their cancer. And so we would see the same thing if they got their way when it comes to these climate lockdowns or the climate restrictions that they want to put in place. We're already seeing some as you just sad about not financing, you know, gas powered cars. But if they really got everything that they wanted, if they got completely open borders, if they got no private property and no private ownership, and they really did just have, I don't even know if you could call it communism. Feudalism, I guess, is more accurate.

Starting point is 00:26:08 If they got all of that, if they completely defeated fossil fuels, I mean, we are talking about the deaths of billions of people probably, right? I mean, is that what they want, these kind of Malthusian people? Interesting way to put it. I think they're looking for essentially the current population to age and die off and then future populations control. many of the people, and I interviewed Hans Schutzenhuber, the German Climate Advisor, who's at all these United Nations Climate Summits, he's one of these people and many others

Starting point is 00:26:40 who believe the carrying capacity of the Earth is only about 1 billion people. Well, we have about almost 8 billion now, I think it's 7.9 billion. So they're talking about eventual elimination because the Earth can't handle it, species can't handle it, trees can't handle it, our natural ecosystems can't handle it, the distribution systems of food and medicine can't handle it. So they're ultimately trying to essentially, I guess the word would be, manage the society. They're not necessarily talking about killing. They're not talking about killing people now, but they're talking about future generations really radically cutting back.

Starting point is 00:27:12 Now, the interesting thing is, if left to their own devices of market forces, generally, like Al Gore was worried about African population being, you know, that were projected to be higher than China and India combined. And wealth and development is one of the most proven ways to lower population. In fact, as a country gets wealthier, the number of kids that families have invariably drops. We've seen it happen all over the world over the past few centuries. And there's no reason to think that won't happen. What's weird about it is they want to prevent that wealth under the name of somehow overpopulation fears from countries. And that's what's happening in Africa. It's a new form of colonialism that they're doing.

Starting point is 00:27:50 They're telling them they can't make the same mistake. that we made here in the West with fossil fuels because they'll make the climate catastrophe worse. So Africa can't make the same mistakes of development, cheap fossil fuels, wealth, longer life expectancy, lower infant mortality, cleaner air, cleaner water, and better infrastructure. I mean, they can't make those mistakes.

Starting point is 00:28:11 Instead, you have to have wealthy white Westerners go in and tell them how to manage their economy. And to make sure it happens, the UN sets up a climate slush fund that quite literally pays African and South America, and South American leaders who are best able to keep their people locked in poverty. In other words, the more poverty you have, the lower your emissions you are, the better steward of the climate you are.

Starting point is 00:28:32 And that's what the UN, I've talked to development activists in South Africa about this. They literally pay the governments and the leaders who are best able to keep their people locked in poverty and then they give this money. And of course, these leaders can then use it to ensure their own reelection. Evil. It's evil. And I mean, it's not only that that's happening there, but it's also that. that as we've talked about several times on this podcast, China, who is going into these poor nations

Starting point is 00:28:58 in Africa and South America and trapping them in a debt trap by saying, hey, Ethiopia, we will build your railway and just go into debt. You can pay us back later, knowing that Ethiopia can never pay them back or one of these poor countries in Africa can never pay them back. And so they are basically under the rule in some ways of China. China. Now, China is like an interesting component in all of this to me because obviously they are one of the worst offenders when it comes to pollution and when it comes to a lot of the things that the people at the WEF say are bad development manufacturing. And yet they don't get the same chastisement as say the United States does. And they don't get chastised at all for basically colonizing Africa and South America.

Starting point is 00:29:57 Why is that? If we really care so much about the climate that they're willing to go to African countries and lock people in poverty eternally for the sake of the environment, why does China get a free pass? Well, first of all, there's two components. China has, first of all, been admired by many in the West for decades. So in the book, I go back decades and show the New York Times, Tom Friedman, praising China's one-party rule. You have the UN climate chief, Christina Figuerre's praising the centralized rule of China and how they can get things done. You have Justin Trudeau saying he has basic admiration for China's dictatorship. You have Obama administration officials. So what happened with COVID lockdowns and what happened with trying to do with the Great Reset is, again,

Starting point is 00:30:42 turn the once-free West into one-party Chinese rule, communist party rule. So the other thing that's happened is China is unbelievable spending machine that essentially own the NBA. They're buying up Hollywood. We saw the actor John Cena that time. He made mention of Taiwan and he had to do apology where he said, I'm sorry, like 27 times and like a two-minute video. There's a reason for that.

Starting point is 00:31:04 And there's a reason environment, social governance, which looks at your score with how you treat transgender, how you treat climate and energy and how you treat critical race theory. and you get your ESG score. There's a reason that's never applied to China because it would be dead in the water if it was. China's given a pass on all of this because China's funding politicians campaigns, China's funding Hollywood,

Starting point is 00:31:29 China's funding sporting events, China's funding all this, and they know, and they're also making everything. Remember, back of the 1990s, we were told with these free trade deals, which turned out, in my view, to be a disaster, that if we can do more trade with China and they can get wealthy,

Starting point is 00:31:46 they'll become more like us because they'll lose their dictatorship and they'll become a free place and free markets. The opposite happened, Ali. We, they gutted our industrial base and then we're becoming more like China. That was the Reagan idea. Unfortunately, I mean, it did, it showed that it worked in previous places like in Soviet and Eastern Bloc and other countries. But when it came to China, I think there was a different cultural history of China that it was never going to happen. So they gutted our industrial base and what happens, now we're beholden to China and we're becoming like them, copying the Chinese social credit system, copying the one-party rule under emergency decree. And that's basically how they're going to achieve Chinese one-party rule, is that emergency decree.

Starting point is 00:32:28 You declare an emergency, bypass democracy. We're still living under the 9-11 terrorism emergency decree. We're still living under the COVID emergency decree. They just tried to have a vote. And Chuck Schumer accidentally voted against, you know, canceled, voted against extent. But Biden is still ruling over this with emergency decree of COVID. So, but the reason China makes no sense is they talk about electric cars, you know, the governor of Virginia, Glenn Yonkins on CNN being interviewed.

Starting point is 00:32:56 And they're asking them like, oh, shouldn't we go green and be energy independent? I'm sorry, going green means relying on China for 90% of our solar panels, relying on China for lithium, coal-bolt, for mining in Africa with underage kids, for more dependence on China and making China wealthier and more strategically in national security dominant over us. The whole green agenda makes no sense in that regard because all it's doing is forming out our emissions to China and instead we're set with the spectacle of Joe Biden begging OPEC and Venezuela and other nations for more energy instead of domestic energy. Yep, it makes us less independent ourselves and obviously it's even a national security threat,

Starting point is 00:33:41 which is why I think a lot of the climate change propaganda actually comes from places like China because it benefits them so much. It also benefits places like Russia, by the way, for kind of the same reasons. I want to hear more about this conference in Egypt that happened from November 6th to November 18th. What else happened there? I'm sure that you were watching paying attention to what was being bad. Was there anything that stood out that you were like, oh, wow. people need to know about that they're talking about it.

Starting point is 00:34:13 I've been going to the conference since 2002, and what's changed over the last two decades is this corporatization of these conferences. So the biggest thing and the most totalitarian aspect of this UN climate summit in Charmell-Shake Egypt, which I've redubed Sharmael Shakedown, because they're asking for climate reparations and more money. Al Gore wants to spend $4 trillion annually

Starting point is 00:34:36 on to fight global warming. Joe Biden shows up bragging about his 300 $70 billion inflation reduction act. Biden showed up with pennies on the dollar. They've already moved well beyond that, which just goes to show you all this, you know, oh, we need to do this to solve climate change. Oh, really? Well, what's your criteria to solve it and when will this end and when will it be solved? Never, never, never. Keep giving more, more and more. So Biden thought 270 billion was a lot. Al Gore was talking about $4 trillion annually. But the most totalitarian aspect was Al Gore partnering up with Google to announce the climate trace app that is going to be immediately set

Starting point is 00:35:12 up to trace, I think, 70 to 80,000 individual CO2 emitters globally, farms, energy plants, businesses, and the stated goal is to help enforce United Nations climate goals, net zero. This is really Big Al is going to be watching us with Google. And keep in mind, humans inhale oxygen, we exhale carbon dioxide. So it's not very far-fetched. They're coming for the SUV in your driveway, your gas heater, your breath. Who knows where this is going to end up? But this is modeled after COVID track and trace apps.

Starting point is 00:35:45 Remember how great those worked in Australia. You'd go to a grocery store, but if you were in 10 feet of someone who may have tested positive the next day, suddenly police show up at your door and you're in a quarantine camp for 10 to 12 days against your will. This is Chinese social credit system from this conference, Google Uniting with Al Gore. Other news out of this was John Kerry at a World Economic Forum event, literally announcing that we're going to use the same template we did in COVID to fight climate change. And on top of that, the World Health Organization was there basically trying to declare climate, the new public health threat. And they're basically saying, and this is a whole new thing, Harvard School of Medicine, 230 medical journals, unchecked climate change will lead to more COVIDs.

Starting point is 00:36:27 So now, if you don't support the climate agenda, the Green New Deal, you're a grandma killer because you're creating more viruses. So that happened. They also did all the youth delegations showed up, kids in their 20s, bemoaning capitalism. I went to an event with kids in elementary school who actually stated, why are we here at this conference? We should be at the playground enjoying the swing set. And, of course, they really should be at the playground enjoying the swing set, not at a UN conference. That happened. And then the other big news item was Mount Sinai, which is about two hours from the conference.

Starting point is 00:36:57 in Charmalle Sheikh, Egypt, was home to the smashing of climate 10 commandments and also a climate repentance day earlier this week. This is what passes for United Nations Climate Summit. And this is, like Michael Crichton said, this is the new urban religion among, the new religion among urban atheists is climate and environment. Yeah. And you know what? That's something that I was going to say is you're talking about how they view human beings. Human beings are trackable. We are either just factors of a virus or just emitters of CO2. Yes. We are dirty.

Starting point is 00:37:34 We are a drain on the resources. They don't seem to see themselves like that. Obviously, they're still around. They're still alive. They don't care enough about the environment in their own lives. That's not what I want them to do. But, I mean, they think that you and I and everyone else is so worthless that I guess we need to be depopulated, but that they, I guess, are a part of some kind of chosen race.

Starting point is 00:37:57 it really is their theology. And it is a very, I don't know what your faith is, but this is a Christian podcast. It is a very anti-Christian way to think about human beings. We believe that human beings are made in the image of God. It doesn't matter how productive you are. It doesn't matter how attractive you are, how rich you are, how poor you are. Everyone, because they have a soul and because they were created by God, has not only value, but also has rights, inherent rights. as an individual. That, of course, is the idea that lay the groundwork for the greatest nation

Starting point is 00:38:33 in the world, the United States. And so I think that is really why they hate the U.S. It's because of its founding ideas and ideals. I think that's what set us apart. That is what makes us an enemy of totalitarianism or should anyway. And it just strikes me how atheistic and how nealistic these people's worldview is, even if they think that they are helping, they might not even realize that their assumptions about how the world works and what morality is and what human beings are are so profoundly godless. And it just, it's really confounding to me how there are people in the West, people in the United States, even Christians who are duped by this. It is a religious ideology that is anti-Christian, anti-biblical. And it's going to have some really bad consequences.

Starting point is 00:39:30 It is. In fact, there was a whole, several panels on this Mount Sinai event that they did. The climate repentance day was essentially mimicking traditional religion by essentially you go up and you apologize for your sins against the earth. That could be anything from eating meat to driving an SUV to turning your thermostat to warm as we're finding out as being a criminal penalty now in parts of Europe. So this really is a, it's a new form of, it's a new form of religion. They're replacing a sort of an earth worship and it's being administered by these international bodies by like the United Nations. It's frightening stuff. This has been around for decades, this aspect, but it does seem, this was a very prominent role here at this conference, this whole idea of the Mount Sinai and the smashing

Starting point is 00:40:18 of the tablets, and this was covered by the mainstream media. Everyone just thought it was a clever little, oh, what a great way to get attention. But as you mentioned, it's much deeper. It's much, much, much deeper than that. Conference also featured 400 private jets, which is really their new religion, and also massive amounts of high-end gourmet meats with chefs flown in, and this was all offered. At the same time, the United Nations had reports calling for the end of meat eating, for fake meat, for lab-grown meat that you grow in a lab, and for insect eating. And that's what they want us, the unwashed masses to eat. But they themselves were dining.

Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah, you can go to Climate Deep. I have a whole report on that, on the lavish menus that were available for the VIPs who flew in on their private jets. So, Mark, there are so many other things that I would like to talk to you about. Gosh, I could talk to you for another hour about this craziness. But I have to end on somewhat of a hopeful note because I got to say, whenever I talk about this stuff, especially great reset, which we're not. supposed to even say, it just makes me feel very powerless. I mean, as you said, they're doing a lot of this stuff undemocratically, while by the way, saying that the people who want borders and who like the Constitution or the fascists who are anti-democracy, really they are the ones that are pushing

Starting point is 00:41:46 corporate fascism, but we know that. But it makes me just feel really hopeless about can this country change for the better? What direction are we going to go in? What power do you and I, have to change anything to push back on them? Well, there's a few concrete things we can do for that I'll give you the really hopeful message, but the first thing we have to do is reform emergency powers because in the United States in particular, the way this great reset agenda was advanced, and then sadly it was Donald Trump who signed this emergency declaration. I think it was March 13th.

Starting point is 00:42:21 And then it was Donald Trump who did the 10 days to slow the spread. Those two things together basically brought the great reset to America. And what happened was, you now, as I mentioned, Biden is still under emergency powers as president, all these governors, mayors, still under it. There's really no criteria. In some places like Pennsylvania, they had to wrestle back. So we need emergency power reform. You have to have specific criteria, expiring time limits, and you have to have people able to vote on it. Because that's the way they were able to do everything without a vote, closed schools, churches, businesses, mask mandates, vacs, mandates, stay at home orders, curfews, etc.

Starting point is 00:42:56 That's point number one. Point number two is you have to resist at every level. So my last chapter is about the great reject, the great resist. And here's what's funny, Allie. The lowest level of politics had the most success in fighting back against all of this. The local school board level, which is traditionally your first entry level of politics, was where the anger of the parents upset about a combination of the COVID theater, masking and social distancing, along with critical race theory, and along with the,

Starting point is 00:43:26 the transgender ideology, those parents willing to be called domestic terrorists by the Justice Department, willing to get arrested in some cases, they turned the election in Virginia. We toppled the Democrat Party machine of Terry McCallough, which then triggered terror among the national Democrats, which then led directly to focus groups, and according to New York Times, the toppling of mask and vaccine mandates in every major liberal city from San Francisco, L.A., Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington, New York, all because of a. angry school board parents churning elections, not just in Virginia, but in New Jersey and other places and at the local level. That's the kind of power we have to fight back. Resistance,

Starting point is 00:44:06 resist mask mandates, resist Vax mandates, resist social distancing, resist lockdowns, defy it all. And there's no democracy was involved. It wasn't an ounce of democracy involved. I don't think there's any vote in America where people said, we want a vaccine mandate. I don't remember anyone actually voting on it. Maybe recently in some liberal areas, but certainly not in the first year of COVID. So that's what we have to do. And there's a lot of hope as long as we resist. I feature the words of Vaclav Klaus, the former Czech president who grew up under communism, Czech, Republic president. And he said, you know, it wasn't called social distancing when he was in the Soviet, when he was under Soviet domination, but it was the same thing. They didn't want you to

Starting point is 00:44:42 meet, congregate, plan, government authorities didn't like it. And that's really what they did do us with COVID. That, of course, led to the Black Lives riot because you had everyone locked down and it was pent up frustration. They created all this, as you mentioned, they created, the health problems, suicide, depression, delayed medical treatments, the development problems with kids and masks. The world health, the world, the world, the world, the world, the UN's organization, global organization has talked about up to 40 million people going starving now in the developing world, all because of the supply chains caused by lockdowns.

Starting point is 00:45:16 The death keeps coming. It's very clear that we need to fight that and I think anger, resistance and changing the narrative. When we really need a Republican Party to come on, I'm disappointed in our national Republican Party leadership for being relatively silent on Vax mandates and mask mandates and all the COVID lockdowns. They just sort of went along with it. That's why it's not that exciting. They're taking over the Congress. I know. There's a few good ones in there. You know, Thomas Massey. Thomas Massey has been one of them, but you're absolutely right. The majority of them just really haven't said anything about it. There really have only been a few

Starting point is 00:45:54 governors, even Republican governors who have. So I agree with you. That is disappointing. Another thing that they're obviously trying to do is to drive us into isolation and to depend less on each other and more on the government. Of course, that has been kind of a left with movement for a long time, but especially from these global leaders. And we on a daily basis can resist that. I mean, we have grown in isolation and loneliness as a country over the past several decades, but they don't want you to depend on your family. They don't want you to have have a family. They don't want you to depend on your church and on your community for the things. They want to close your church. That was the first thing they closed. They left tobacco and abortion

Starting point is 00:46:32 shops open and anything that made money they left open. Churches were closed immediately during COVID. Right. They don't want that. And so we do have an active role to play in kind of resisting that isolated people are much more vulnerable too. Yes. And so that is one role that we can play and also understanding that at the end of the day, God is good and he is in control and he is bigger than Klaus Schwab in the World Economic Forum, and I have to remember that too. Where can people, where can people find you? Where can they find your book and your website and all that good stuff? Well, I'm at climate depot.com, and I'm on Twitter at Climate Depot as well. The book is the great reset. And it just came out in August. And I tried to make the book fun. It's not a boring

Starting point is 00:47:20 policy wonk book. It opens with a quote from the Twilight Zone. It goes through George Carlin jokes, Bill Maher. I have a whole chapter devoted to the new politics. It's not left, right. It's freedom versus tyranny. I welcome with open arms people like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The feminist Naomi Wolf, who used to work for Clinton Gore, people like Russell Brand, who was a Hollywood socialist. They've all come around and they're actively fighting the forces of the Great Reset and this massive transfer of power and wealth to the top from the middle class. and that's really what we're facing here. It's a whole new political realignment.

Starting point is 00:47:55 Yeah, well, thank you so much. I so appreciate the work that you do, and I do encourage everyone to go out and get your book and to check out your website and all that good stuff. And thank you so much for taking the time to come on. Well, thank you very much, Allie. Appreciate it. Hey, this is Steve Deast.

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