Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 772 | Why Dylan Mulvaney Made Me Cry

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.

Starting point is 00:00:19 We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Christians in Arizona and elsewhere are being explicitly discriminated against for their faith, but I think we've actually got good reason to be hopeful. Dylan Mulvaney performed a variety show this week celebrating a full year of quote unquote transition from a man to. to what he calls a girl. We will analyze that.

Starting point is 00:01:01 And then I have an earnest and sincere plea for Dylan. YouTuber Shane Dawson is chronicling his journey with unethically using a surrogate to make children. He's got a really disturbing history, too, that makes this whole situation even worse. All of this and more on this episode of Relatable, which is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com. Use code Allie for a discount. That's good ranchers.com.

Starting point is 00:01:27 coat alley. Hey guys, welcome to relatable, happy Thursday. If you're watching this on YouTube, yes, I am draped in my blanket today. I usually just have my blanket over my legs, but it is so cold. It is so cold in this studio. And I usually wear a long sleeve shirt or a jacket for this reason. Today, I forgot because it's actually kind of warm outside. I forget that I need to dress for an icy tundra when I am recording this podcast. But speaking of studios, again, just another announcement. Next week, we will be in our new studio. A lot of you, for some reason, thought that this was our new studio when I posted on Instagram some pictures yesterday. I guess you haven't been tuning in on YouTube. But no, this has been our temporary set is that new set has been being built. This one has

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Starting point is 00:02:57 I know some of you guys are sad about that, but that's okay. That's okay. It's time. There's going to be new relatable font and new relatable brands. And it's just going to be, it's going to be really fun. And the next week we've got some good guests coming up in the next couple of weeks for our new set. All right. Let's get into what we are discussing today.

Starting point is 00:03:15 The first thing I want to talk about is something that is going viral, of course, on social media. And I understand that a lot of you are tired of hearing about this person. And I'll explain why I think it's actually important to talk about him. And that is Dylan Mulvaney. We won't spend all of our time on this particular topic. and, you know, part of it is also that he probably likes to be in the news and he likes a lot of attention. And so why are we giving him airtime? And I totally understand that. But I do think that Dylan Mulvaney, if you don't know who that is, he is the TikTok star who documented the so-called days of girlhood.

Starting point is 00:03:50 Now, this is a grown man. Okay, this is a grown man who looks like a grown man. And he is saying that he is transitioning into not just a woman, but a girl. And so for the first year of his transition, he said that it was the days of girlhood. So he would post these videos on TikTok where he talked about being a girl. And some of them were very disturbing. Some of them were just kind of nondescript or they weren't really worth talking about.

Starting point is 00:04:17 But he clearly demonstrates what he thinks it means to be feminine or what he thinks it means to be a girl. And some of the things that he's talked about is, oh, being so scared of bugs. And there was a video where he said, says that we need to normalize girls having bulges. Yep, in tight leather shorts. And he basically dons this character of being a dits, of being a flusie, of being this kind of airheaded child. I mean, he dresses like a young girl. And he is celebrated by female organizations and by

Starting point is 00:04:56 corporations for doing this for displaying what. honestly is a very offensive, very condescending, very patronizing, very infantilizing depiction of what it means to be a girl or to be a woman. He has gotten millions of dollars in sponsorships, millions and millions of followers. He is influencing young people, young girls in particular, to imagine that this is what it means to be feminine. That to be a girl isn't really anything substantive. It isn't anything biological. It isn't anything real. It's something that you can take on and put off.

Starting point is 00:05:35 You can become a girl just by wearing lipstick. By growing out your hair, it doesn't matter if you have male genitalia. Does it matter if you have male DNA? Does it matter if you have a male body? It doesn't matter if you have a five o'clock shadow. It doesn't matter if you have every indication of being a male. You can still be a woman because it is something as superficial as wearing a skirt. That apparently is where progressivism has taken us.

Starting point is 00:05:58 It's so progressive. that we have completely forgotten one of the most fundamental tenets of reality, actually the foundation of all of human existence. And that is that there is male and there is female and there are innate differences. All of us exist because of the innate differences between male and female. And so this person is a representation of the denial of reality and the celebration and the glorification of the denial of reality. This person is a manifestation of Romans 1. We are exchanging the truth of God for a lie. We are diluting our minds because of sin, because of an exchange of the God of Scripture for the God of self.

Starting point is 00:06:39 And when it becomes lucrative to do that, I think that that's a really good symbol, a really good indication of just how far our culture has gone. And Dylan celebrated what has now been 365 days of transition during this transition. He hasn't just socially transitioned trying to go by she, her. pronouns, which of course I will not honor because I believe that Dylan is made purposely in the image of God as a male. And because I'd rather honor God than affirm his feelings, I am going to use the pronouns that correspond to his purposely created biology. But he has also tried to physically transition. And so he's gone through facial feminization surgery. And that entails, you know, trying to shave down the brow ridge, trying to make the jaw less pronounced, the eyebrows a little bit

Starting point is 00:07:32 raised up, the lips a little bit fuller, probably shaving down the Adam's apple, all things that you don't have to do if you are a female, by the way. So he is influencing millions and millions of young people to think that this is normal, to think that this is how you get affirmation, this is how you become liked, this is how you become a celebrity by fundamentally denying who you are, hating how God made you, and trying and ultimately failing to change it. And so he celebrated now what has been a year of transition. He performed this one-night-only variety show called Day 365 Live to celebrate his 365th Day of Girlhood at the Rainbow Room in New York.

Starting point is 00:08:18 The event was hosted by Dylan and featured many other quote-unquote queer icons and Broadway performers. You'll remember that Dylan Mulvaney is or was a Broadway performer. Very, very talented, just a beautiful voice, a very talented actor. Take from that what you will. And then has now attempted to transition into a girl, into a woman. The 80-minute cabaret began with a pre-recorded clip of Rachel Brosnahan, who is the marvelous Mrs. Maisel, company Mulvaney in her dress room, or I guess this is a quote from Variety. Is it her dressing room? I don't know if it's referring to Rachel, who is her or Mulvaney, who would actually

Starting point is 00:09:02 be his. From there, Mulvaney eagerly entered from the balcony at the back of the rainbow room and sang a series of Kate Bush covers, which will play you a little bit of that. And then at one point in the show, at one point in the show, he plays a compilation video of right-wing commentators talking to, about him in a way that he deems hateful. And I will just say, like, relatable was snubbed. We were snubbed. We were excluded from this montage. He only included daily wire hosts and the things that they have said about him. Some of the things were harsher than others, but every single

Starting point is 00:09:43 thing that was said by each of the hosts, whether it was Candace or Matt Walsh or Bin or Michael, they were all true. They were all 100% true. And honestly, I, was watching that and I was like, you know, as much as I honestly, as much as I disagree with him and really hate what he's doing and how he's influencing people, like, I don't want, I don't want him to, you know, constantly be sad or depressed or whatever because of what other people are saying. What I do hope is that some of the true things that they are saying actually like plant a seed of reality in his mind that he's actually influenced and impacted, even in some small way by some of the very true things that he's saying. But he uses this as a way to

Starting point is 00:10:32 kind of lead into the musical portion of this performance. It's very odd. Like, it's obviously very self-serving. This is all about self-worship and self-idolatry, right? I mean, we talked about this yesterday. When you elevate autonomy and authenticity above submission to truth, which ultimately is submission to Christ, then authenticity and autonomy become excuses to sin. Oh, I'm just being myself, so I'm going to identify however I want to identify however I feel in the inside. Autonomy. Oh, well, I have bodily autonomy, so I'm even going to sacrifice the life of my child on the

Starting point is 00:11:06 altar of autonomy. Autonomy and authenticity can be very good things, but when they're not submitted to Christ, then they become idols that lead us to do very destructive things. And that's what we're seeing here, is that he has sacrificed reality, his own body, his true identity on the altar of autonomy, on the altar of the God of self. And so I'm going to play you a clip. It's a little long, but I really want to respond to it. And I want to respond to it sincerely. So like it's cringe. Yes, it's cringe because he's acting and it's all about him and turns into this musical. And it's, it's just, it's just

Starting point is 00:11:38 cringe in a lot of ways. But like, listen till the end. And I do want to sincerely respond to what he says there. Here it is. Truthfully, I don't know what they're. goal is but I do know how they make me feel now that I built up a thicker skin. It doesn't hurt me, I would feel. Do you want to know, know that it doesn't hurt the deal I... My response going forward, it's not over-explating myself. It's not pleading.

Starting point is 00:12:25 It's not expecting kindness from someone who has no kindness to give. My response is in the next joyous video that I make. That's my response. And if I only could, I'd make a deal with God, now get him to swap our places. Can we pause there? I'm gonna say something that might make people feel a little bit uncomfortable. Um, I'm trying really hard to maintain a relationship with God.

Starting point is 00:12:59 And I don't think that he made a mistake with me. with me. And that maybe one day I will actually be grateful for being trans. That this isn't some curse, but it's just a different path to the same destination. All right. Let me tell you why that makes me want to cry. And the part that I actually teared up at was not that last part. It was actually when he hit like a very beautiful low note when he was saying.

Starting point is 00:13:28 The reason that that makes me cry is because as. has ruined his beautiful tenor male voice. And maybe that seems like a superficial thing to be sad about. But it actually has to do with the last thing he said is that, wow, God made this man so talented. So incredibly talented. Wow. He had a beautiful voice. Have you ever seen videos of him singing on Broadway in the Book of Mormon or I think he was in Spring Awakening? I don't know, some other shows. He is incredibly talented. talented, a beautiful, booming, Broadway, male voice. It is extremely easy to see why he got as successful and as famous as he did. And now through hormones and through these surgeries,

Starting point is 00:14:13 he is actually ruined. His beautiful voice. He wants to be a soprano. Dylan, you'll never be a soprano. Like, you'll never have the same voice that you did when you were living out as male. Because guess what? That is how God made you. That's how God made you. Yes, he did make you. He made you purposely and wonderfully in your mother's wound. That's what Psalm 139 tells us. And he did not make a mistake. He absolutely didn't make a mistake. You are 100% right about that.

Starting point is 00:14:43 But the mistake that he did not make was in making you a male. And right now you are living in active rebellion to his creation. You are living in active rebellion to how God made you. Look, God is not endorsing. or affirming the confusion or the delusion that you say that you have in your mind. Like good and evil exist. God and Satan exists. And Satan is the author of confusion.

Starting point is 00:15:12 God is not. God is the author, the source, the bringer of peace. And what he wants is for you to have peace with your body. To have peace with the biology that he gave you. That will not happen through surgery. That will not happen through hormones because you are simply not. female. You will never be a woman. You will never be a girl. I know that there are people around the world who are applauding you, who are telling you that they're celebrating your femininity, celebrating your

Starting point is 00:15:42 femaleness. But Dylan, at the end of the day, God made you a man. And that is a good thing. You have value. You have innate worth as an image bear of God. And I want that to be where your identity lies. I want you to know that Christ died to save you, to make you new, that what people don't say, what I say, what anyone says, it doesn't ultimately matter, but not because you're actually a woman, but because your identity can be in something higher than that, and not in this imaginary transition that you think is happening, but actually in the God who made you. It can be in Christ who died to save you, who died to save me. Like do you, you're looking for satisfaction, Dylan. You're looking for love. You're looking for affirmation. You're looking for acceptance. You're not going to find it in this. It's going to feel good for a little while. I know it does. Feels good to be patted on the back. It feels good to get all of this money, to get these accolades. I understand that feels good. That will fade. Here today, gone tomorrow. But eternity is a really.

Starting point is 00:16:55 really long time. Have you thought about that? Have you thought about what's going to happen when this life is over? Have you thought about the bigger picture here? Have you heard the gospel, Dylan, like the real gospel, that we are sinners, that we are all far from God, no matter how we identify, no matter what our sexual preferences are, every single one of us attracted to male, female, confused about gender, not confused about gender, we're all separated from God. because God is holy and perfect and we are sinful. Therefore, we need a reconciliation to God. We need a bridge to God.

Starting point is 00:17:33 We need to be brought to God. And that is why Jesus came. That's why God became flesh and dwelt among us, died a death that he did not have to die on the cross for our sake, a sacrifice that then paid for our sins. If by grace through faith, we trust in him for that, that's the good news that you're looking for. that's the love that you're trying and failing to find in all the wrong places.

Starting point is 00:18:02 You will not find your identity, your satisfaction, the affirmation that you're truly seeking, the contentment that you long for, the peace that you are looking for outside of Christ, Dylan. And I will tell you, like, if you, and I pray by the grace of God you do, ever come to Christ, like, just like all of us, he's not going to leave you as you are. like he will by grace through the power of his holy spirit seek to change your heart and to reconcile your mind with your body because he made it good he made it good he made your beautiful male voice good he made your male body good the first chapter of the first book of the bible tells us that Dylan. And I hope that you can have a relationship with God. You can only do that through Christ.

Starting point is 00:18:55 And just know that Christ promises never to leave us as we are. And it is worth it. You're trying and failing to find joy where it just does not exist. And I pray you find it in the God who created you, in the Jesus who died to save you. I encourage you, Dillon. Read the book of John. I encourage you, Read Ephesians to learn the gospel. Gosh, I pray that you do. I pray. I really do. I pray that you.

Starting point is 00:19:28 That's what I want for Dylan. I mean, you know, we can laugh at all the ridiculous things that he says. We can cringe. It's cringeworthy. And we can talk about him being offensive. It is offensive. It's an offensive caricature of women. We can talk about how harmful his influences.

Starting point is 00:19:44 It is extremely harmful. And we can laugh and make fun and all that. You know, I think there's honestly a. place for that. But at the end of the day, the best thing that can happen is for him to repent. That's what I want. And so that clip made me sad for a variety of reasons, but I just want, I want him to know. I want him to know there is a God who cares, who made him good. Yeah, I guess that's all I have to say on that. There's a lot more that I could say about him. But that's my, a lot of people who have conveyed messages to Dylan, that's my sincere message. And that's my, like, deepest hope.

Starting point is 00:20:20 for him. And I hope that we are all praying that, honestly. And I hope that he has people in his life that are praying that too. That's how we love. By the way, that's how we love. I know a lot of people say, well, loving people is using their preferred pronouns. Loving people is affirming their delusion. No, it's not. That's you thinking that you're more loving than God. You can't be more loving than God. First John 4-8, God is love. Okay, God is love. And then Genesis 1-27, God made the male and female. So if you're disagreeing with Genesis 1,27, then you think that you are more loving than the God who in 1st, John 4 8 says that he is love. The Bible doesn't say you are love. So don't idolize yourself by thinking that you can be more compassionate than God by disagreeing with him.

Starting point is 00:21:02 The most loving thing we can always do is agree with God, both in our lives and in how we speak to other people. And so I'm sorry, I'm not going to fall into that fake empathy trap that says in order to love someone, you have to affirm lies. I'm not more loving than God. I think the best thing I can do is probably agree with him. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality.

Starting point is 00:21:43 We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpodized. popular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Okay, I've been wanting to talk about this strange story for a little while. You know, on this show, we talk a lot about the dangers of commercial surrogacy and the ethics behind sperm donation, egg donation, even I.

Starting point is 00:22:24 IVF. Basically, I think in most of these situations, while I know there's a lot of people who listen to this show, who watch this show, who have used IVF, so please go back and listen to some previous episodes that I've done on IVF and don't hear me say that I think that you are a bad mom or that your kids just aren't as just as precious and is made in the image of God as every other child that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that in IVF and in all of these fertility treatments, very often the rights of children are denied. They're completely ignored, especially. when you have IVF situations where you're making many embryos that you never intend to plant. There are risks to IVF, especially when it comes to the mother, but also when it comes to the child. And so these are risks that we are placing on children, you know, without their consent. All I'm saying is that these are things that we should think about. There are millions and millions of frozen embryos throughout the country that will stay frozen indefinitely. I mean, if we believe that life begins at conception, we have a problem with that. And life does begin at conception.

Starting point is 00:23:27 It's not even just a belief. It's a scientific fact. Now, you might not believe that those lives that begun at conception have any value. And you'll have to explain to me philosophically why you believe that. But it is life. And so we have all of these tiny human lives that are sitting on ice throughout the country. That's a consequence of IVF. IVF makes the fertility industry, big fertility, as many like to say.

Starting point is 00:23:52 a lot of money. So does sperm donation. So does egg donation. Sperm donation. Um, is the, is the purposeful abandonment of your children. And so is ag donation. You're sending your future children off with no intention to care for them. That's abandonment. All right. I believe it's 1st Timothy 5.8 says not taking care of your family is worse than being an unbeliever. I mean, that's abandonment. That's not to say that there is no grace or redoubt. for those things, but it is absolutely sinful. And not to mention the repercussions that that has on a child who may never know who their mother or father is, that's an innate need for all of us.

Starting point is 00:24:32 Even adopted kids, they have that primal wound of being taken away from their biological connections. And while adoption is beautiful and redemptive and adopted kids can have wonderful, wonderful relationships with their parents, there is still a drive in many adopted kids to know where they come from. Where did I get my traits from? Who are my ancestors? Who is my mom?

Starting point is 00:24:58 What were the circumstances surrounding my conception, pregnancy, birth, all of that? It's just innate. We want to know from where we come. I honestly think that it is a huge part of why God calls himself father because even for the orphan, he ultimately is our source. He ultimately is our place of belonging. He ultimately is our home and our. protection. And then there's the whole issue of commercialized surrogacy. And that is, I think,

Starting point is 00:25:30 a heinous, heinous industry that basically is sex trafficking, where poor, very often poor women, low-income women, are pressured or feel pressured to sell their bodies for money. That's not that different than prostitution. Technically, there's consent there. but what puts you in the kind of situation to where you are willing to sacrifice your body to get paid? And then again, even if there is consent, one that doesn't make it moral. I don't believe in consent-based morality. Consent is one of the factors that you consider when you are considering whether something is right or wrong. But also the child certainly doesn't consent.

Starting point is 00:26:13 There are many, many issues and consequences, physical consequences, emotional and mental consequences that come from buying the eggs for, from one woman, if you're talking about two gay men, like we're about to talk about, buying the eggs from one woman and implanting them in the uterus of another woman, and then taking that child away immediately, both from his biological mother and from the woman who carried him for nine months, whose smell and feel and heartbeat, he knows, whose touch she innately longs for, taking him away sooner than we take a puppy away from his mother, and then raising them without a mom. And then, of course, the same issue in a lot of ways comes up when you're talking about two

Starting point is 00:26:57 women using sperm donation, IVF, and all of that. You are purposely taking a child away from his father. When it comes to two men, you are purposely taking a child away from his mother. And as we talked about earlier this week, two men might be great dads. Two women might be great moms. They can never be a mom or a dad. and it's different than adoption because rather than using the circumstances that already exist to try to help the life that's been created, you're actually creating a life with the purpose of taking them away from a mom or dad.

Starting point is 00:27:27 And I'm sorry, but that is selfish. It's selfish that's unethical, that's immoral, that's wrong. It's actually evil. It's evil to purposely take a child away from his mom or his dad and to think that you can serve the same role as a woman or, I mean, as a man. a mom or a dad, it's just, it's wrong. It's wrong. There will always be something missing, even if those parents are great parents, which they absolutely can be. They still can't be a mom or a dad. So that is part of what makes this story about Shane Dawson and his husband, his partner, Rylind Adams, they are going through the surrogacy process. Now, Shane Dawson is a YouTube celebrity.

Starting point is 00:28:08 He's been around a long time. I think his fame is kind of waxed and waned over the years. but they're trying to have a child together or maybe multiple children. And there are lots of things that are disturbing about this in addition to what I just explained. They've created 12 embryos in total. They've joked about which ones will be born and which ones will be discarded. And in their announcement video, they made jokes about cheaper by the dozen, you know, saying, oh, we made 12 embryos cheaper by the dozen. Ha, ha, ha.

Starting point is 00:28:40 They're laughing on video as they're talking about. this. They laughed about the fact that each of the babies that they created, the 12 embryos that they created has a barcode. And they're talking about having four boys and the others or girls. And then Rylund says, of the four boys, which one do we choose? So you see right there like the ethical issue. So you're choosing children. I mean, a lot of a lot of IVF and especially when it comes to like surrogacy, we don't realize this. But there's a lot of eugenics that are involved. there because the embryos are tested. Oh, this one has some kind of special need. This one has a chromosomal disorder. This one's a girl. This one's a boy. And the two men or two women can say,

Starting point is 00:29:23 not all do this, but they can say, oh, well, we definitely don't want a special need. We definitely don't want a disability. We definitely don't want a girl. We definitely don't want a boy. And they can choose to then kill those embryos based on the trace that they want or don't want. I mean, do we not see like the issues going on here? But we're just supposed to pretend like, Oh, love is love. Yay. Like your Instagram post. I see Christians like these Instagram posts. And most people, just to be honest, just like haven't really thought about it. Oh, we do have a little video, a short video of this happening. So here's their little YouTube video announcing all this. She actually had 35 eggs on this retrieval cycle. And of those, we each have six that are, what do they

Starting point is 00:30:06 call them? And the embryos that are good to go to pregnancy. So what do we do? How do we choose? Do we have a battle? Like, do we make the eggs, like, fight? I'm curious, though. I want to talk to our doctor and know, like, okay, of the four boys, which boy do we choose? You know, like... I don't like playing God. I don't either.

Starting point is 00:30:28 No, I'm just saying, like, I wonder if there's, like, the biopsies or the lab results tell them which one. We have to spin the wheel and we'll put a barcode on each side. Okay, like, they're talking about people here. Like, you get that right? They're talking about people. people who do not ask to be created, who do not ask to be then taken away from their biological mother, the egg donor, and then implanted in another stranger, and then taken away from both of those women to be raised by these people. Oh my goodness.

Starting point is 00:30:57 Oh my gosh. And so, again, you see the eugenics inerrantness and he said, I don't like playing God. You're already playing God, Shane. You're already playing God. That's exactly what you're doing. You're playing God by creating these children outside of the natural process. I don't like playing God, and yet you will. You're not going to implant all of those embryos, are you?

Starting point is 00:31:17 You're not going to have 12 children. So you will be playing God. I don't like playing God. That's, I mean, that's like Pontius Pilate trying to wash his hands after, you know, after approving the crucifixion of Jesus, ain't going to work. Ain't going to work. Doesn't fly. There is a different video from March of last year.

Starting point is 00:31:41 They talked about starting their. baby making process. They joked about purchasing the mother of their children. They said, we chose an egg donor. It was very strange to click purchase on our child's mother. Purchase, we bought our mommy. So in humor, there's a lot. There's a lot of truth in humor there. And I wish that they were making a joke about it in order to make a point about how unethical all of this is, but of course, they're not. So this is not the only disturbing part of this, though. The disturbing part of this is Shane's history and the things that he has said specifically about children. very disturbing things about children.

Starting point is 00:32:14 So when it comes to this process of commercial surrogacy, buying eggs, renting wombs, there's no background check. Anyone can do it. In adoption, you have to have a background check, right? You have to have a background check. And even if you're going through a divorce and you have a biological child, okay, and you've got a mom and a dad in divorce court, still, like the judge is looking at the different aspects. I'm not saying, and we can get into all the intricacies and the problems of

Starting point is 00:32:44 divorce court and like our justice system when it comes to all of that. So I'm not pretending like this is a perfect process. But judges are assessing in general the character of each parent. They're looking at their background. They are looking at their history. And they are deciding the custody very often based on a number of these factors. Even when that child is biologically either the mom or the dad's, that does not guarantee that that child gets to go with them. And yet when it comes to creating these children through surrogacy, through egg and sperm donation, the people doing so don't go through a background check, at least as far as I can tell. And the vast majority of these cases, anyone can do it.

Starting point is 00:33:24 Is that not an issue? And actually, we already see in the adoption process. We talked about that horrible story out of Georgia where the two men raped and trafficked their boys. And they adopted their kids from a special needs Christian adoption agency. So already, like, we see that there's just not enough protection of children in our country. We absolutely know that. But especially when it comes to big fertility, there's so much money and there's so much power in it. And there's so much public support for it because people are stupid that no one is even asking these questions.

Starting point is 00:33:59 No one is even asking, well, should Shane Dawson have a child? I mean, should someone who makes the comments that I'm about to read? have a child and I'll just let you know they're disturbing so let's go through some of them and 2014 Shane so he's a YouTube star remember that Shane was recording an episode of his first podcast Shane and Friends it's now deleted but this has been reported on several times when he began telling a seemingly innocent story about an encounter with a six year old fan and then a six year old all right and then he talks about in this episode quote he says she shows me her Instagram first of all I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, Shane Dawson says, but she was kind of sexy. He is talking about a six-year-old. Okay, this was in 2014. Then Shane attempted to defend pedophilia in this episode as a fetish. He says having sex with children or touching children is terrible and you should not do it, he responded. But here's my thing. People have foot fetishes. People have fetishes about everything. So like, okay, just if we just ended there, which unfortunately, like, that's not the end of the history of his comments. Like, would you say that this is a person?

Starting point is 00:35:07 who should be talking about creating a child. And by the way, not this is, there's also an increased risk here because not all of these embryos. I don't even know who fertilized these embryos. I'm guessing one of the guys fertilized some of the embryos. One of the guys fertilized another embryo. Look, the non-biological parent in any household, this is just statistically true. I'm not saying it's true in close to every case. But statistically true is the biggest threat to a child.

Starting point is 00:35:37 safety. It's just the truth. And so you have an added risk here. You already have someone who has a history of making these kind of comments. Then you have an added risk that he might be in the home with someone who is not even biologically related to him. This is a problem. I'm concerned. He made an apology video in 2018 saying he grew up and changed his content. And he says that he even plays the section of the podcast and his apology in which he said that he, this is just disturbing. He says that he Googled images of a naked baby and jokes that he thought that it was sexy. All right.

Starting point is 00:36:15 In 2020, a clip of Shane resurfaced on Twitter that showed himself pretending to, again, disturbing. Masturbate in front of a poster of Willow Smith. She was 11 years old in this poster. Of course, a lot of people. people, including Willis Smith's brother, Jaden Smith said, like, called him out. I was like, I'm disgusted by you. Why are you sexualizing my sister? And then there are some other clips going around. There is a clip where he said that he was video chatting with a young

Starting point is 00:36:51 teenager who was a fan of his. He kept telling her to twerk. And after she finally twerk for the camera, he told her to show herself in another video, probably from his YouTube channel years ago. He showed a series of photos featuring young girls wearing some of his merch. And then he jokes, this is so disturbing. This is the guy that we're talking about who is talking about having children. He joked in that video, I would rape all of you. In an audio clip from Shane and Friends, this is from an Evie article, Evie magazine. He says, if I had a child, which is the same as a dog to me, well, I guess when they're a baby, you don't want to picture someone effing them.

Starting point is 00:37:29 but he is talking about how apparently he is also maybe into bestiality. That's something he's talked about multiple times. And then his co-host on the show actually shared a new story of a man who raped. I can't even say. I can't even say. I can't even say. It's disturbing. His co-host shared a story of terrible, terrible child sexual abuse.

Starting point is 00:37:54 And Shane laughed and said, that's amazing. And I'm not even going to go. I'm not even going to go through. the rest of the stuff. Basically, he says that he's joking about all of this, whether he's talking about beastiality or whether he's talking about pedophilia. There are actually other things that he has said over the years that aren't even included in this.

Starting point is 00:38:13 And I'm not even going to get into all the stuff that was included in our examples because it's so disturbing. But this person is now joking about buying the mother of their children and trying to pick their, like why don't we have background checks? Like, why is this something that anyone is applauding? You don't have a right to create children. You don't. You should not have a right.

Starting point is 00:38:35 Like, shouldn't we have some laws and restrictions? You know, most countries in Europe are heavily restrictive when it comes to the fertility industry and certainly surrogacy. Like people in America think, oh, if we were just more like Europe, look, Europe has a lot more common sense restrictions on some things than we do. I mean, so does China. I mean, China is a dictatorship. And I, like, would never ever praise China.

Starting point is 00:38:58 but there are some things. And I'm like, that makes more sense than what we in America do. Like, America is honestly one of the most liberal countries when it comes to this stuff, when it comes to abortion, when it comes to transgenderism in the world. And then you wonder why there's a conservative backlash. Yeah, because we have literally the craziest progressives in the world in our freaking country. So, of course, there's going to be a backlash to it. There's going to be a backlash to people like Shane Dawson being able to buy children.

Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah. have a problem with this. We should all have a problem with this. So we got a lot of confusion in the world. A lot of things have changed for the worst. But one thing that hasn't changed is that Christians are pushed to the margins and are seen as the ones causing all of the problems. And this is relatively new in our country, at least over the past few decades. But it is not new in the history of the church. It is not true in the history of the world. I mean, Christians for a very long time have been blamed for the world's problems or for a country's problems or for rebellion against tyrants like Nero, which by the way, Christians have been in rebellion to

Starting point is 00:40:19 many tyrants throughout history. So that's fair. But very often unfairly, unjustly maligned and mistreated when really Christians are typically the ones on the front lines of pushing back against the madness and the people who are mad, the people who are crazy are very upset with that. That, of course, is what's happening in the story that maybe you've heard about in Arizona. So the Arizona School Board ends an agreement with a Christian college, which is Arizona Christian University, Great University. And because they do not want ACU's student teachers to be placed in its schools for field experience, specifically because they are Christian.

Starting point is 00:41:01 So this happened on February 23rd. The board agreed on a motion to dissolve the partnership. The school board said this. The board's decision to discontinue its partnership with Arizona Christian University was based on the board's commitment to create a safe place for our LGBTQ plus students. So they're just coming out and saying it. It's because of their religious beliefs. It's because they believe in what humans have believed for thousands and thousands and thousands of years that we are male and female. Staff and community. This includes not knowingly entering into partnerships with any organization that explicitly discriminates against protected classes covered by our non-discrimination policy. So Christians. Christians, I highly doubt they would be dissolving any kind of partnership with some kind of Muslim organization. School board member, Tamilia Valenzuela, will put her picture up, stable individual. If you're listening to this, she wears cat ears still on the regular. She was also in the school board meeting, she was wearing these cat ears, but also in this picture. She says, well, she describes herself first.

Starting point is 00:42:03 she describes herself as bilingual, disabled, neurodivergent, queer black Latina who loves a good hot wing. Oh, I think you love more than one, but only with the right ranch and things that sparkle. She said, while I full-heartedly believe in religious freedom and people being able to practice whatever faith they have, I had some concerns regarding, regarding looking at this particular institution. And so, and she said, my concern is when I go to Arizona, Christian University's website. They're committed to Jesus Christ, accomplishing his will and

Starting point is 00:42:36 advancements on earth that is in heaven. Part of their values is to transform the culture with truth by promoting the biblically informed values that are foundational to Western civilization. Love it. Including the centrality of family. Love it. Traditional sexual and morality, great. And lifelong marriage between one man and one woman. Awesome. That's Christianity for you, has been for 2,000 years. And many other cultures and religions as well, hold to this. I want to know how bringing teachers from an institution that is ingrained in their value so directly brings, there's a lot of things that she's saying that don't make sense and it's a little concerning that she's part of the educational and educational institution brings impact to three of your board members who are part of the LGBT community. She also said at some point we need to get real with ourselves and take a look at who we're making legal contracts with and message and the message that is sending to our community because that makes me feel like I could not be safe in the school district. So once again, when it comes to all of this progressive stuff, the progressive revolution that happens in schools in every institution, it's never about competence.

Starting point is 00:43:46 Like, it's never even really about safety, not actual safety. It's about feelings. And so they don't say these ACU student teachers did a bad job or they're not good teachers. or they weren't providing an excellent service or that they didn't give any examples of how teachers made these kids unsafe or were unloving to them or unaccepting to them or just did about, they don't mention that because it's not about that. It's about their beliefs. It's about them being Christian.

Starting point is 00:44:16 They're open about that. They're explicit about that. Like, can you imagine openly doing this towards any other religion and getting away with it? No, but they're applauded. it. And so look, I don't believe in putting on this victim complex. I just believe in, like, seeing reality. This is what it is. This is what it has been for a very long time. And I'm not going to bemoan it. Yeah, I think it's unfair. It's un-American. And it's just stupid. Some of the only sane people in this world are Christians who actually, like, can tell up from down. But I do think,

Starting point is 00:44:58 I mean, but, but I will say, though, like on a positive note is that because this is the history of the church is being treated in this way and much, much, much, much more harshly. And not just in history, but still happening today. Like, we don't, we don't have to be depressed over it. Actually, the church can thrive on the margins. I think that there are going to be a lot of really deadly and destructive consequences, as we're already seen, pulling Christianity out of the mainstream. However, however, I do think that it's an exciting moment for the church. I think it is a moment of separating wheat from chaff. It's less convenient.

Starting point is 00:45:37 It's less comfortable. It's much more difficult today to be a Christian, to be an actual Christian, to stand up for Christian morality in the face of the trans agenda, in the face of the redefinition of marriage and the family, and the face of the way the cultural winds are blowing, it's much harder to swim upstream like human salmon than it was in America even 20 years ago. And so, I mean, this is a time for the church to really shine. And of course, the church has always shown.

Starting point is 00:46:12 But again, when it's pushed to the margins, when the world around us is so dark, when more and more institutions are turning off the light, then it is an opportunity to shine even brighter, to be even bolder. to really count the cost, as our brothers and sisters in Christ have been doing for a long time around the world. Like religious liberty, equal treatment under the law, having a Christian value system, even where non-Christians exist, is not normal universally. It is not normal historically. America has been in the Western civilization, but particularly America has been very unique in that, extremely unique in that. And we've had a lot of, like, we've had a lot of positive effects,

Starting point is 00:46:53 of that. And now that's going away. I'm not saying we shouldn't push back. You know that I think that we should. But instead of just saying, oh, this is so sad. Now is the time to say, you know what, I'm counting the cost. This is what it means to be a Christian to be in the world and not of the world and to stand out and to constantly be maligned for simply saying that, which is true. And by the way, this works out for us in eternal glory that far outweighs any hardship or trial that we endure because of our faith here today. I mean, Jesus promises us the world hates you because it hated me first. In this world, you will have trouble, but take heart, I've overcome the world. So we're actually guaranteed a form of persecution.

Starting point is 00:47:36 We're actually guaranteed a form of discrimination. We're guaranteed it's not the same persecution as are, you know, as Christians in different parts of the world are enduring. But like we are guaranteed some of the things like what Jack Phillips has endured for the last 10 years. That's actually part of the package. So let's get comfortable being uncomfortable and just realize that this is normal. Yes, push back through politics and culture wars and through raising your family, disciplining your family and doing everything you can to stand for truth 100%. But just know, like this is kind of probably the way that it's going.

Starting point is 00:48:09 And this is all the more reason, all the more exciting, I think, reason to stand firm and to truly stake your place. All right. Also, oh, I just wanted to say like one last thing on that. I thought it was really interesting. Rain Wilson, who played Dwight on the office. I like him much better as Dwight than is Rayne Wilson. He says some things that I'm like, what?

Starting point is 00:48:32 But he does say something that I thought was, that I thought was good. He tweeted on March 11th, I do think there's an anti-Christian bias in Hollywood. As soon as the David character and the last of us started reading from the Bible, I knew who's going to be a horrific villain. Could there be a Bible reading preacher on a show who's actually loving and kind? I appreciate him saying that. I mean, obviously, we've known this. this has been apparent for decades in Hollywood that Christianity either is like entirely ignored

Starting point is 00:48:59 or it is depicted as something that is evil and perverse. And so he makes a good point. Now, of course, Hollywood's definition of like a loving and kind Christian is one that affirms everything that a world affirms that the world affirms. They're not going to show like a loving and kind Christian who holds two traditional marriage. That is evil to them. So they just like are unable to do that. But I appreciate Rain Wilson pointing this out because it's absolutely, it's absolutely true. And it's just like Hollywood, they're so in their bubble. The liberals who live on the coast of the country, we know everything about them because they're representative media so much. They know nothing about us. And so like they just make really dumb characterizations and

Starting point is 00:49:42 assessments. That's why we know so much more than them about everything because they're in their little silos. And we are forced out of our silos because every institution, that we are part of every show that we watch is at least against some of our values. And so that just makes us, it makes us tougher. It also makes us more thoughtful. It makes us a lot more effective in debate, too. All right. Wow.

Starting point is 00:50:04 We covered a lot of ground today. Basically, I think the theme is just that the gospel wins. God wins. And we don't have to worry about where the world goes or what they think of us because God's victory is sure and we can have a lot of hope and a lot of optimism in that that's not where we were going to go in today's episode we actually had a whole other thing planned but then we realized we need more research so we'll do that next week all right all right that's all we've got for you today thanks so much for listening and for watching please leave us a five-star review if you haven't done so

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