Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 829 | Demi Lovato Needs Jesus

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.

Starting point is 00:00:19 We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day Show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Demi Levato has released a new song celebrating her pro-abortion stance called Swine. These lyrics paint a really stark but important picture of what godlessness looks like when we sacrifice everything on the altar of bodily autonomy. Also, it's been eight years since the Supreme Court decided on Obergefell redefining marriage away from the ageal definition of a man and a woman. What has that slippery slope since 2015 really looked like?

Starting point is 00:01:13 But first, we are going to start with a good news story, an incredible story of redemption and adoption, a firefighter rescuing a baby that has now become his and his wife's daughter. So we've got a lot to talk about today, a lot to get into. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Go to GoToadranchors.com. Use code Alley. Check out. That's good ranchers. com, code Alley.

Starting point is 00:01:45 Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. Is it Tuesday? I think it is. Hope everyone has had a wonderful week so far. Got a lot to get through today. A lot of good feedback from yesterday's episode. The thing I kept hearing was that you want to share the

Starting point is 00:02:04 episode with those who are on the fence about abortion or about how to vote. So do that. I think obviously they're going to have some disagreements. They may even be offended by some of the things that I said, but you never know what can plant seeds. So if you appreciated yesterday's episode, go ahead, share it with a friend who may be on the fence or wondering why we should vote our convictions and why this whole game of moral relativism that both sides are equally bad or equally good is just silly. It's just silly and it's not very thoughtful. So thanks for your good feedback for yesterday. Go listen to it if you have it already.

Starting point is 00:02:40 Also, in a couple days, just a couple days, we've got a new merch drop that you guys have been asking for. So stay tuned for that. Alleymerch.com. You can check out what we already have. But the new stuff you're going to be really excited about, especially you related bros out there. Okay, so we wanted to start today's episode with some good news, a good news story that I think is so sweet. because as usual, as we are being tossed to and fro on the undulating waves of our culture. And we have to go through these chaotic and sad stories.

Starting point is 00:03:15 I do like to be reminded and to remind y'all that there are good things happening. That God's work doesn't always make headlines, sometimes it does, like the story we're about to talk about. But he is always accomplishing his purposes. He is always spreading his gospel. He is always advancing his kingdom, and that has not stopped even for a millisecond since the beginning of time. His eternal plan of redemption is going off without a hitch. Even in this very fallen and broken world in which we live, there are shoots of light shining through the crevices. And we like to look for those as much as we possibly can.

Starting point is 00:03:53 So we wanted to talk about the story about a firefighter who found an abandoned baby in a safe haven baby. So let me tell you from what is reported from today. I'm glad today reported on this because it's a very sweet pro-life story. A firefighter in Ocala, Florida, is that how you pronounce it? Ocala? Those of you who live there, you can correct me if I'm wrong. Ocala, Florida was pulling an overnight shift at the station in January of this year when he was awoken at 2 a.m. by an alarm. He knew that it wasn't a fire alarm. It was a different kind of alarm that he heard. but that a newborn had been placed in the building's Safe Haven Baby Box, a device that allows someone to safely and anonymously surrender, a child, no questions asked. This was the first infant to be surrendered through the Safe Haven Baby Box in Florida. So just a little bit of background in case you haven't heard of a Safe Haven box. It's Florida's only, this is Florida's only box. This is the only location in Okala, Florida.

Starting point is 00:05:00 there are 153 active baby boxes currently in the United States, according to the Safe Haven Baby Box website. This is an organization that was started by a woman who herself was conceived in rape and then was abandoned. And so God has just used her story that started from a place of brokenness to be a vessel of redemption for so many families and so many babies. There have been 132 babies legally and safely surrendered through these boxes since they're founding in 20. 17. The devices are temperature control. They feature a bassinet-style bed inside. Easy for retrieval. Safe Haven Baby Boxes founder Monica Kelsey said babies in their boxes on average for about a minute and a half because they're, they're always being staffed. In this case, it was at a fire station. And so a firefighter heard the alarm and immediately went down to look in the box.

Starting point is 00:05:55 He actually thought, according to the story, that it was a false alarm at first. The firefighter went to the box. and was surprised to see that there really was a healthy infant. I'm trying not to tear up. A wrapped in a pink blanket. And he said this. Okay, I don't know if I'm going to not be able to cry. This is just so sweet. He said this, quote, I picked her up and held her.

Starting point is 00:06:16 Okay, I'm also pregnant. This is really hard for me to read without crying. He recalls, I picked her up and held her. We locked eyes and that was it. I've loved her ever since that moment. The firefighter and his wife had been struggling. for more than a decade to have a baby. When taking the baby to the hospital as part of the surrendered procedure, the firefighter wrote a note and left it with Zoe. He said, quote,

Starting point is 00:06:43 I explained that my wife and I had been trying for 10 years to have a baby. I told them we'd completed all of our classes in the state of Florida and were registered to adopt. All we needed was a child. When the firefighter finally spoke to his wife, she started crying. He did not want his wife to get too excited yet. He feared that the note he wrote would not stay with Zoe and that she'd be gone. He described those couple days as very stressful because you have to go through still the state. This child, just depending on the laws, but they go through child protective services to be then placed for adoption, to be placed with a family. And so there was no. no guarantee that just because this firefighter rescued the baby and left the note that they were

Starting point is 00:07:33 actually going to get the child. Zoe was placed in the station Safe Haven Baby Box on January 2nd. Then on January 4th, she was home with the firefighter and his wife. The couple adopted Zoe in April. The way I found her, this was God helping us out. He says, adding that it's difficult not to cry when he tells the story. Yeah, I can imagine so. He also hopes that his story gives birth mom's closure or gives the birth mom closure. We want her to know that her child is taking care of and that she's loved beyond words. Oh my goodness, I just love this story that God had already planned this little baby's life and how she was going to be rescued before she was even conceived. That's what Psalm 139 tells us that before we were even born, God had planned every single one of our days before any of

Starting point is 00:08:23 them came to be. And there should be absolutely no shame at all for the mothers who say, I can't do this for whatever reason and put their babies in the safe haven box. That is such a loving and selfless thing to do because there are stories. You probably heard the story of baby India from Georgia a few years ago who was placed in a plastic bag thrown into the woods. And thankfully, she was saved by first responders in that video I saw it posted by live action the other day. Just so sad but so sweet that this healthy crying, writhing little baby, she was rescued by these first responders who were so gentle and so kind and so compassionate when they were talking to this child.

Starting point is 00:09:07 And then the mother actually ended up being charged and convicted of child abandonment. But you can avoid that kind of cruelty. You can avoid that kind of choice. You can avoid that kind of punishment by finding a safe haven box. And really, I wish that they were available, you know, on every block because they really are effective. Having saved 132 babies, they also have a hotline that women can call. You can go to their website. We'll link it in our description that they've referred women to pregnancy centers.

Starting point is 00:09:45 They've helped women with adoption processes. and I just think it's so beautiful how God put all, orchestrated all of this to rescue this child's life. And also that, wow, for years and years, they had struggled with loss or they had struggled with infertility. They had struggled with wanting to have a child. And God had this planned all along. So that's just another beautiful lesson in this,

Starting point is 00:10:10 that in our waiting and in our doubting and in our asking why God, why, why haven't you fulfilled the desire of my heart? that you placed in me, you tell us to be fruitful and multiply, why haven't you done this for me yet? We have no idea. We have no idea what God is planning. We have no idea how he's already glorifying himself. We have no idea what he's doing in our hearts and our lives as we are waiting, as we are being sanctified. Remember that for the Christian, nothing is wasted. No hardship, no difficulty, no moment of waiting, no mundane task that you are fulfilling. Nothing is wasted. for a Christian, but it's all creating for us a glory that far outweighs everything we experience

Starting point is 00:10:54 both good and bad today. So I just see this as like such a beautiful picture too of the gospel that like this is this is us. Like we do nothing to rescue ourselves. Like we are just as vulnerable, just as helpless, just as defenseless, just as needy as this child who is placed inside this box and God through his power, through his love, through his goodness completely rescues us and saves us. And so such a beautiful story. I just wanted to start out the day with that because we are going to talk about the sadder, more turbulent stuff. But gosh, God is always working.

Starting point is 00:11:35 And I guarantee there are stories like this happening on a daily basis that we don't see. So don't think that everything that you see on Twitter, everything that you see on Instagram, everything that has discouraged Christians in the month of June, that that is the main narrative. The main narrative is always that God is on his throne. And there are beautiful things being worked out on a daily basis for his glory and our good. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news

Starting point is 00:12:17 of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts.

Starting point is 00:12:43 I hope you'll join us. Okay, I just wanted to say one more thing about the safe haven laws. You can go to childwelfare.gov. child welfare.gov and see what the regulations are in your state because every state has different stipulations around this like for example in Alabama, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Michigan, Washington, Wisconsin, they limit relinquishment, like legal relinquishment of your baby to infants who are no more than 72 hours old. Whereas in some states like Missouri, it can be 45 days old, 60 days in Kansas, Louisiana, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Texas, 90 days in New Mexico, one year

Starting point is 00:13:25 in North Dakota? I mean, that's wild. That's why, I mean, in a good way, I'm glad that they're illegal means, but it's just crazy how big the ranges. So go to childwelfare.gov. You'll be able to see the different stipulations. It's really important that we get this information out there. I think a lot of women just don't know if they're in a crisis situation. They don't have to go through drastic measures that will actually traumatize or hurt their child, but they can do the most compassionate thing possible, which is try to give that child. a loving home that can take care of them. All right.

Starting point is 00:14:00 Let's get into, so that was light. Let's look at the darkness just a little bit and respond to it with truth. So, Demi Lovato, you've probably heard about this. She just released a new song called Swine. Now, Demi Lovato is a singer and she's had a lot of trouble over the past few years. She, I think, went to rehab because of addiction for a while there, which is very sad. She claimed to be a lesbian at one point. Then she claimed to be a they, them.

Starting point is 00:14:34 Now she's back to she her because she said they, them was too exhausting, having to correct people and all that stuff. Yeah, because it's not natural to call someone that you know is a woman something other than she heard. And it's definitely not natural to call someone by a plural word like they. So, but now she's still, you know, in her progressive activism. And she has written this song and performed this song that is apparently about abortion. So this is via People magazine. On Thursday, June 22nd, Demi Lovato released her newest song, Swine, about her strong pro-abortion stance just days prior to the anniversary of Roe being overturned.

Starting point is 00:15:20 For one year, the profits from the song will be donated to the Reproductive Justice Fund at the Dimmie Lovato Foundation. The funds will then be directed to three nonprofit organizations, NARAL ProChoice America, Plan C, the National Network of Abortion Funds. I mean, there are just so, there's so much here. There's so much here. I don't know why it kind of just like makes me laugh a little bit in a very dark and sad way. abortion is not a laughing matter, but I feel like she's just trying so many ways and so many different avenues to be taken so seriously, not just as an artist, but also as this activist. And if you want to know why this is so terrible, go back and listen to yesterday's episode where we remind ourselves and remind the audience what an abortion is, like physically, scientifically, what an abortion entails. So she released this statement on Twitter as she released her song. It's been one year since the Supreme Court's decision to dismantle. of the constitutional right to a safe abortion. It's not a constitutional right. It's not. It's not a constitutional right to a safe abortion. And although the path forward will be challenging, we must continue

Starting point is 00:16:27 to be united in our fight for reproductive justice. Again, as we said yesterday, euphemism after euphemism after euphemism, they don't actually say the words killing a baby or killing a human, which is actually what abortion is, reproductive justice. What does that even mean? I mean, this is the product. This is the conclusion of reproduction. You had the choice, unless you were raped, you had the choice of behaving in a way that would reproduce, engaging in the act that would end in reproduction or not. I created swine to amplify the voices of those who advocate for choice in bodily autonomy. I want this song to empower not only the birthing people of the this country, but everyone who stands up for equality to embrace their agency and fight for a world

Starting point is 00:17:20 where every person's right to make decisions about their own body is honored. Okay, you can make decisions. You can make decisions. I want to empower you right now, Demi Lovato, that you do not have to have unprotected sex. That is a choice that you can make. You do not have to do that. And yes, consent to sex is consent to pregnancy. It is. I mean, consent eating, you're consenting to your body processing that food and then releasing that food into waste. Like that is the natural process of eating and drinking. You know what's going to happen. If you drink water, you're going to have to pee later. If you're pregnant, you're going to have to pee five times later. That's just how it goes. So if you have sex, whether it's protected or not,

Starting point is 00:18:10 you know that one possible result of that is having a child is getting pregnant. And so there are lots of choices that can be made before pregnancy happens. I understand that rape happens. I understand that conception through rape happens. That's absolutely terrible. Still, my stance is that we should give the death penalty to the rapist and not the child. But in the vast majority of cases when it comes to abortion, 99% it is not rape. And so there are lots of choices, lots of agency, lots of autonomy that can be exercised before we are talking about

Starting point is 00:18:44 killing the life of an innocent child who had no part, by the way, in the choices that were made to lead to conception. Okay, so we're going to play you part of this music video. It's very, it's very demonic looking. If you're just listening to this, she's wearing like red and black. She looks very, very angry. Everyone looks very angry in it. I'll talk about it a little bit more. But listen to the words that Sweet Dimmie Lovato sings for us. Okay, so that's our Demi Girl. And as I said, she looks very, very dark, very angry. She's saying, my life, my choice. But it gets even worse. And I can't even, I can't even say everything that she says. The lyrics are very, very crass. And so I'll just let you kind of fill in the blanks.

Starting point is 00:19:55 God forbid, I want to blank whatever the blank I want to. God forbid, I want to blink whoever the blank I want. I can't even read this. You know what? I can't even read this. She's basically just saying, look, if I have sex and he decides not to wear protection, then I have to be punished by having a baby. The chorus is my life, my choice, my rights, my, or my life, my voice, my rights, my choice. It's mine or I'm just swine. My blood, my blood, my loins, my lungs, my noise, it's mine, or I'm just swine. And then she says, picture your faith. Imagine your God and even your Holy Bible is suddenly banned. Do you understand? Now, doesn't that sound entitled? It's your book, but it's my survival. And we got to grow and we got to raise them. We got to feed and bathe them. And if you won't, they call you a witch to burn at the stake in Salem. Thought by now they changed, but we're still waiting. Give these MFers hell.

Starting point is 00:20:53 Okay. So, I mean, again, it's just kind of laughable. It is, it's like just like a little bit silly how just stupid this is, really. I mean, it's just completely not just morally bankrupt, but intellectually bankrupt. Like she doesn't know what she's talking about. I guarantee that if I sat here right now and I asked her, like what was the Dobbs decision? What was what was Roe v. Wade? Like what was the overturning of Roe v. Wade? How did it? What were the consequences of it? Tell me about some of these pro life. laws. In how many states is abortion legal? The answer is actually all 50. In all 50 states, abortion is legal to a certain extent. In a lot of states, it is legal through all nine months with very few stipulations. And so, like, what exactly is she talking about here? Women being burned at the stake for having abortions or the Bible being banned. Is she saying that's comparable to saying that you can't kill a child just because that child resides inside of the womb? And she, and she, She's saying that if she can't choose to have an abortion, then she's just swine. She's just a pig.

Starting point is 00:22:00 I think it's very interesting that she chooses that terminology, that she chooses that she chooses that word. We see swine or pigs used a lot in scripture as an example of being unclean. And I think specifically of the story in Mark 5 when Jesus casts the demons out of the man who was wandering in the cemetery and the demons beg him, can you please just send us into those pigs over there? And so Jesus cast out the demons and sent the demons Legion into the pigs, and the pigs just ended up running off the hillside into their death.

Starting point is 00:22:45 That's kind of, I don't know, it just seems a little bit comparable here. It seems like that's kind of what's going on. These are demonic ideas. She's calling herself a swine, I guess, of all things, of all things, because she can't have an abortion. These are definitely pig-like assertions that she's making. Like, she is basically glorifying selfishness. She's glorifying this kind of crass, periscuous lifestyle where she should be able to choose

Starting point is 00:23:19 what she wants to do, whatever she feels like doing in any way. moment, no matter the consequences that have to be endured by other people. And so there's something like very spiritual going on, I think, in Demi Lovato's life. I think that there's something very deep that she's fighting, very demonic that she's fighting. Obviously, she struggled with her identity. She struggled, I think, in the relationship with her body. She struggled with who she is, why she's here, why she matters, what the purposes of all of this, all those big existential questions that all of us are trying to find. And she's trying to find the approval and the fulfillment, the satisfaction that she has been seeking all of her life in progressive activism

Starting point is 00:24:07 and trying on these different identities, going by they, them, saying that she's a million different sexualities. She's even, I think, changed her name maybe a couple times. And she's just really struggled. And so I do have some compassion for her. I mean, she is like a sheep without a shepherd. She is like a lost sheep. And she's hanging out with wolves thinking that they're going to take care of her when really she's going to end up being devoured. And it seems like we've seen that over the past few years of her life. And so while I could be angry about this song, honestly, it's not moving the needle. Like it's not going to change anyone's mind. It's not going to turn anyone from pro-life to being pro-choice. I don't even think it's going to encourage anyone

Starting point is 00:24:48 to, you know, abort their child. It's just adding to the noise. And it really kind of makes me sad for her. It makes me really sad for her. I see a lot of desperation and just a lot of despair in Demi Lovato and her voice and the words that she says and how she's tried so hard to be something and to figure out who she is over the past few years. So I just pray that Demi Lovato that God works on her heart and that she hears the gospel,

Starting point is 00:25:17 that she believes, that she would abandon the way of life that she has been pursuing, that she would realize that her journey to try to find the love that she has been looking for has reached a dead it, it's reached it at it. And she's tried and failed to find purpose in all the wrong places. And it can only be found in her creator. I do appreciate, though, how through her lyrics, she does show, like, this is what godlessness looks like. It's your body. It's your choice. It is you who calls the shots. You determine what right and wrong is. You determine what truth is. And everyone else be damned. There's no such thing

Starting point is 00:26:05 as sin except for saying that there's sin. There's no such thing as right and wrong except for what you determined to be right and wrong. You are your own determinant of truth. You're your own moral arbiter. That's what godlessness is. You worship yourself. And so, of course, you're going to sacrifice a baby on the altar of your own bodily autonomy. And so there is some effectiveness in her messaging there just showing us, yeah, this is what life without Christ looks like you worship yourself. Gosh, and the God of self is cruel, right? We see that over and over again. It's so demanding. And so bloodthirsty, too. And so just a good depiction of what darkness is, but I have hope for Demi Lovato. I do. I hope that God will redeem her and will save her because he can do anything.

Starting point is 00:27:06 Okay. So yesterday was the eight-year anniversary of the Obergefell decision. That was the Supreme Court decision that said it is a constitutional right for two men or two women to get married, redefined. what we had always known about marriage across cultures, by the way, that the marital relationship, that the union between a man and a woman is unique and that men and women are not interchangeable. And so trying to redefine marriage is something that it can never be is going to cause a lot of moral and cultural chaos. That was our argument all the way back in 2008 when people were debating this even before that. people had been debating what is the definition of a marriage what are the rights of two women or two men who wants to be in some kind of civil union should they have all of the rights of a married man and

Starting point is 00:27:57 woman and believe it or not democrats and republicans agreed on this for a long period of time but no there is something unique there is something sacred different elevated about the potential life-giving nature of a husband and a wife that is simply not brought to the table when it's two women or two men. And even in 2008, when Obama was campaigning, he went to California and he was campaigning at Rick Warren Saddleback Church. And he affirmed that he believed that marriage is between a man and a woman. And several years ago, Joe Biden did as well. But of course, as the cultural winds changed, so did Obama and Biden and the Democrat Party.

Starting point is 00:28:45 So in 2010, President Barack Obama affirmed that marriage unites a man and a woman. 2010, along with 45 states and the federal government. Then in 2012, Obama evolved, evolved. And the Supreme Court took cases involving marriage law. On June 26, 2013, the Supreme Court struck down the defense of marriage act in a 5-4 vote, which struck down the federal definition of marriage as a male-female union. Then in 2015, the Supreme Court issued the Obergefell v. Hodges decision 5-4, which redefined marriage for the nation.

Starting point is 00:29:19 Same-sex marriage advocates told the public they sought only the freedom to marry, thought it quickly began to, though it quickly began to clash with religious freedom, which is exactly what Clarence Thomas said that it would do in his dissent by working to shut down Catholic adoption agencies and harass evangelical bakers and florists. Of course, we've talked about Jack Phillips many times. His story actually goes back to before Obergefell in Colorado in 2012, he was approached by a gay couple who wanted a cake for their gay wedding. And he said, look, I'll make you a cake, but I'm not going to make a cake for the wedding of two men because I'm a Christian. And that violates my conscience.

Starting point is 00:30:01 And of course, progressives have tried to ruin his life since then because that's what they do. They claim that, oh, it's Christian nationalist and Christians who just want power. Voting Republican is just about power. Well, who is harassing innocent bakers because they want to abide by their conscience? They want to abide by their Christian faith and to use the power of the law to try to force Jack Phillips to create artwork, to create a product that contradicts his own values. That's what the state of Colorado tried to do. And it wasn't until the Supreme Court narrowly decided, yeah, you know, how he was treated during this process by the state of of Colorado is discriminatory against his religion.

Starting point is 00:30:47 Has he been given any freedom whatsoever? But he's continued to be harassed. He's in lawsuit after lawsuit. Now he's got transgender activist trying to get him to make cakes that celebrate the so-called transitioning of an individual, which he refuses to do. And so we've seen this kind of battle, not from Jack Phillips, but also from different florists, different business owners who are bearing the broad. of the false promises of the LGBT movement, which is that we just want freedom to be ourselves.

Starting point is 00:31:19 We just want freedom to marry. It doesn't affect you. We just want to be left alone. How does it, how does it even impact your life? We just don't want to be bothered. Well, we're seeing how they are mobilized and then empowered by like a decision like a Bergafeld to make everyone else, not just comply, but also celebrate their choices and celebrate their unions. And so there was an article that was written back in 2020 in USA Today. And let's see, it was by Ryan Anderson and Robert George, two conservatives. And the article says this, the law now effectively teaches that mothers and fathers are replaceable, that marriage is simply about consenting adult relationships of whatever formation the parties happen to prefer.

Starting point is 00:32:06 This undermines the truth that children deserve a mother and father, one of each. That's something that we say. a lot. Children deserve a mother and father. Ideally, they have a right to their mother and father. Now, we live in a broken world, and sometimes that doesn't happen. Sometimes there needs to be redemption and healing of that brokenness through something like adoption. However, the ideal situation for a child in all the data, all the social science that we have points to this. The ideal situation for a child is to be with their married mother and father. And so for us to intentionally break that down, it's cruel, it's wrong.

Starting point is 00:32:45 It's, again, putting the wants, the desires, the sexual desires of two adults over the needs and the well-being of children. As we've said before, I think love is love is just as illogical. It's just as crazy as saying trans women are women. Love is love. It's just circular. just like trans women are women is. If you're not defining what a woman is, then trans women are women doesn't actually mean anything.

Starting point is 00:33:13 Woman doesn't actually mean anything. If love is just love and you're not defining love, then it doesn't mean anything. Love can be anything. And if love is love, that circular reasoning without any actual substantive definition, is the foundation for reformulating marriage, then marriage can really be anything. I mean, if that's the only standard that you have, have, if that's your standard of what right and wrong is or how to define things, then marriage can be defined not just as between two men or two women. It can really be redefined as anything you want

Starting point is 00:33:47 it to be as long as you justify it with saying, but this is love. And if love is just how you feel, if love is just lust, if love is just whatever you want, then there really are no parameters around that. That's what we argued all the way back when this was first being debated. And Christians were told that's a slippery slope fallacy. You're wrong. This is not going to lead to the justification of polyamory or polygamy. This is not going to lead to the justification of, say, a non-adult and an adult relationship. This is not going to lead to anything else. It's not going to lead to thinking that men and women are interchangeable. No, that's crazy. Except it is. It is. It has done all of those things actually. Because when you say that two men or two women is the exact same

Starting point is 00:34:37 as a man and a woman, you are essentially saying that men and women are interchangeable. So if a child, you're saying, does just as well with two dads or two moms, which is just not true. But if that's what you're saying, you're basically saying there's no difference between a mom and a dad. There's no difference between men and women. And if that's the case, then why can't a man just declare that he's a woman one day and walk into the women's bathroom and compete against female cyclists. Why not? But if men and women are fundamentally different, if they're biologically different, if they bring different things to the table, then they're not interchangeable. A man cannot become a woman. And it's not the same to have a marriage relationship between two men or between two women.

Starting point is 00:35:20 It's certainly not the same to have two parents that are two men or two women because we are fundamentally different. So marital norms, this article is. says in America had already begun to crumble with the sexual revolution with the rise of cohabitation, non-marital childbearing, no-fault divorce, and the hookup culture. Legal redefinition is a consequence of the cultural breakdown of marriage, which I think is a brilliant point that is really important, that it's not just the redefinition of marriage to be something other than between a man and a woman. Like the breakdown of the family and the consequences of the sexual revolution far predate Obergefell. And we are actually seeing the consequences of that now.

Starting point is 00:36:04 We're seeing the consequences of this kind of slope, which is indeed slippery. That's not a fallacy to say. It's very slippery. Back in 2015, here were some headlines in Politico, 2015. No polygamy isn't the next gay marriage. 2015 in Time magazine, Polygamy is not next. 2015 in Washington Post. support for polygamy is rising, but it's not the new gay marriage. Don't worry, you crazy Christian

Starting point is 00:36:31 conservatives. And now here are some headlines. USA Today. I'm wired differently, what it feels like to be polyamorous and how couples make it work. The Washington Examiner, the court that first legalized same-sex marriage now is legalizing polygamy too. The same-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-sex court that first recognized same-sex marriage over 30 years ago has now recognized polygamous relationships. What was normal or non-traditional in 1989 is not a barometer for what is normal or non-traditional. Now, one of the judges said, indeed, the definition of family has morphed considerably since 1989. Specifically, many articles have been written about multi-person relationships in recent years, revealing a preference that for some has long been known. IFL science reports this.

Starting point is 00:37:21 Polyamory is on the rise and society should be more accommodating recent. I mean, this is all over TikTok. It's all over social media. These polyamorous, polycule situations, relationships, even in which children are being raised, which is absolutely cruel. Just statistically, you are greatly increasing the potential of that child being abused. The most dangerous place for a child to be is in a home with a non-biological male adult. That's not universal. That's not saying all stepdad's, that's not what this is about. Statistically, it is most likely for a child to be abused by a non-blood relative in their home. So a step-parent, an uncle, a cousin, and so certainly this is true in these polyamorous relationships too. Not always, but statistically,

Starting point is 00:38:17 it's going to be a lot more dangerous for children because we are prioritizing adults want, and in some cases, they're sexual fetishes and their sexual drives above the welfare of children. And of course, the redefining of marriage that we did a few years ago led to something like this. Of course it did. Of course it did. This is what happens when you mess with nature. This is what happens when you mess with what the God who created all of us says is the actual definition of marriage, which he defines very clearly in the first chapter of the first book of the Bible. Now we can say all of this and greatly sympathize with people who are attracted to the same sex

Starting point is 00:39:01 who, for obvious reasons, want to be able to marry that person and want to be afforded all of the rights that a man and a woman in the holy bonds of matrimony have. We can be sympathetic to that. We can understand that. We can say, yeah, they shouldn't be mistreated. We shouldn't be unkind to them. But we are never going to be able. It's never going to be the same.

Starting point is 00:39:29 It's never going to be the same no matter what the law says. It's not the same for two men or two women to come together in marriage as it is for a man and a woman. There is a lack of potential life giving there that then requires typically all different forms of reproductive technology, which inherent in them, are all kinds. of ethical problems that we've talked about many times. And that is one of the reasons why cultures throughout time and around the world have held as sacred this marital bond between a man and a woman that just can't be replaced. It just can't be replaced by the relationship between two men or two women. And so we see when we break down those definitions what it ends up leading to. And we've got some more consequences that we'll talk through in just a second.

Starting point is 00:40:23 Okay, so this video was going around, and we are going to censor it. People were sharing this uncensored on social media, which I understand why people share these kind of videos, but I just can't. I will not share an uncensored, like, nude video, especially when it's involving, like, children who are being forced by their weird parents to watch. But I do think it's important to talk about. this stuff and to show as much as we can so that people who say, oh, that's not happening, can see that it's actually happening.

Starting point is 00:41:08 So this was reported by the post-millennial. Seattle held its 49th annual Pride Parade on Sunday, saying the LGBTQIA plus reunion is free fun, community-wide celebration, advancing awareness of LGBTQIA plus issues, and promoting mutual respect and equal human rights for all. While the parade included a large group of naked men and women on bicycles, because, okay, It's not about just wanting to get married. It's obviously not about that. Like how many Fourth of July parades?

Starting point is 00:41:39 Fourth of July, it's about the freedom of America. How many Fourth of July parades do you see with people nude, riding bikes, flashing themselves in front of bystanders? As some were covered only in body pain, but others were completely naked, fully exposing their genitalia to children at the quote unquote family friendly event. So here are some of that. We censored it for y'all. You can thank me later. All right. So we just briefly showed you the shot of these children off to the side sitting there with, I guess, their parents.

Starting point is 00:42:32 And these men and women just completely naked staying in in front of them. Now, I think it's weird and I think it's wrong and bizarre and depraved and perverted for these people to be riding their bikes naked. Of course. But I think it is actually worse. I think it is worse for the parents to bring their kids to something like this, knowing that there's going to be this kind of thing on display there. I don't know if the people riding their bikes naked knew that there were going to be kids there, like wanted to show themselves in front of kids. Although you would hope for like some kind of embarrassment. Like you're riding around naked for whatever reason.

Starting point is 00:43:13 You think only adults are looking at you. then you see a child and you're like, wow, I'm going to book it home. I'm so embarrassed. I don't want to show myself. Well, they don't feel that kind of shame. And the fact that parents are traumatizing their kids like this. And there's been some strange defense. So Brian Krasen, Krasenstein, he is a Democrat activist, social media influencer. I don't know. But he wanted to defend this. So again, this is not just something that Democrats, that people on the left are just put. to the side is, oh, this is, you know, this is not happening. They're saying, no, it's okay that it's happening. It's fine, they say. So, Libs of TikTok tweeted this. She tweeted it uncensored. So saw genitalia. And Brian Krasenstein said, said this. Lips of TikTok tweeted out a video of the naked men on bicycles to make a point that naked men on bicycles shouldn't be parading in front of kids. He says, I agree. But she's posting on Twitter, where kids who are, you know, 13 years old can see it.

Starting point is 00:44:18 So that's wrong. But then he goes on to say, he goes on to say, seeing a man naked on a bike isn't going to have much of an effect on my kid. They have likely seen their father or brother naked before. Sharing an uncensored video of a naked man on a bike to an audience of possibly 30 million kids on Twitter. I don't think there's 30 million kids on Twitter. It's arguably worse than writing a bike naked in front of a kid or two.

Starting point is 00:44:44 in a planned event that the kid's parent took them to. I mean, I disagree. Again, I'm not going to share those uncensored videos for a variety of reasons, but for a parent to purposely take their child to a parade where they know there's a very high likelihood of their being nudity and also kink type things. That is, I mean, that's far worse. That is like the worst dereliction of duty that you could even think of. Remember last year, no, this was 20. I believe. There was a Washington Post op-ed by Lauren Ruello, who goes by they, them, of course. And this is the title. I only have to say the title of the article. Yes, Kink belongs at Pride and I want my kids to see it, she says. That was in the Washington Post, Pride, 2021. She says hashtag kink positivity. And she tells the story about how her child was very confused about these men,

Starting point is 00:45:44 like in leather chaps whipping each other and how she wanted her child, who was obviously confused and traumatized by this, to be more accepting of it. Like, do you know what this does to kids? Like, awakening sexual curiosity and sexual desire, depraved sexual desire in young children at a young age, it's called grooming. It grooms them to be vulnerable to sexual predation,

Starting point is 00:46:08 to sexual molestation, to sexual assault, makes them far more likely to be promiscuous when they are young. conditioning their mind to start thinking about sexual things before their bodies and minds are ready to do so, before they are even able intellectually, mentally to be able to consent to those things, you are making them vulnerable to a pornography addiction, but even more you are making them vulnerable to abuse. They're already thinking about those things. So when adult comes along and wants to have those kinds of conversations to them, then groom them into a kind of sexual relationship,

Starting point is 00:46:44 they're already ripe for that kind of thing. That's actually what groomers do. That's what groomers do. You can read the studies on this by psychologists. I think you can go to Psychology Today.com and you can read about what some signs are of a pedophile groomer. And one of the signs is starting to talk to young kids about sexual things to get them thinking about it, to get them talking about it. So they're more open to engaging in that kind of behavior. And so like when the right started this whole groomer, groomer, groomer thing, calling people groomers. It wasn't just out of nowhere. It's because having Drag Queen Story Hour, showing kids' depictions of sex and of naked bodies and introducing them to things like kink and this kind of sexual nudity

Starting point is 00:47:33 of strangers, it is a form of grooming. It is making them ripe for predation and sexual relationships. And so, I mean, this has turned into a lot more than just being about marriage and the freedom to love each other. How does it affect us? Well, I mean, thankfully, we aren't taking our kids. No one in this audience is taking our kids to pride parades. But a lot of our kids are trying to watch TV shows. They're trying to get an education and are constantly bombarded with proper about being a they, them, or being able to change your gender, that maybe you're born in the wrong body, even inappropriate sex education that we're seeing pushed by entities like Planned Parenthood as young as kindergarten. So yeah, it's affecting everyone. How is it affecting

Starting point is 00:48:25 Jack Phillips, you might ask. How is it affecting the florist? How is it affecting people who simply want to abide by their conscience and running their business and yet are harassed by left-wing LGBTQ activists? Now, is this representative? of everyone who identifies as gay or everyone who identifies even as trans? No, I don't think so. I don't think that most people who are attracted to the same sex or who think that they're the opposite gender, while I obviously call that sin, I don't think that they're sexual predators. I don't think that they're interested in showing themselves off to kids. I don't think most of them are even attending parades like that. Most of them probably do just want to live their lives. But even

Starting point is 00:49:08 even so Christian conservatives called it. We called it back in 2015. We called it a lot a long time before that that this is going to open the door to the redefinition of everything to breaking down all parameters when it comes to sexuality and family and child welfare. And we were right. We were even more right than we wanted to be than we thought that we would be. Think about how quickly this has gone from 2015 to today. It hasn't even been 10 years. And here we are. justifying and celebrating the so-called transition of minors through puberty blockers and double mastectomies. Wow, that happened fast. That happened really fast. And yes, it did start with the breaking down the barriers and the parameters and the definitions of what a marriage is. If you redefine marriage, the most fundamental human institution, you can redefine everything. again, it goes back to exchanging the God of Scripture for the God of self. Love Thy Body by Nancy Piercy ties together all of these different pieces, homosexuality and abortion and gender, promiscuity, how it's all a wrong idea of what the body is and what

Starting point is 00:50:26 the body is for and who God is too. We're having it around next week. Two-part conversation. I think it's going to be on the third and on the fifth. we're taking a break on the fourth for the fourth of July. But she's got a new book out about masculinity. Oh, the conversation is so good. But we will also talk about Love Thy Body because it's like my favorite book ever.

Starting point is 00:50:46 And so she will break this all down for us in such and just a fascinating way and a biblical way too. So look forward to that. All right. How are we doing with our Target boycott? I haven't been asking about this. I've been meaning to post on Instagram to see if you guys have kept it up for. the month of June. And I, well, I've been boycunning Target since last year when I found out that they were selling the chest binders to kids. And we covered, you can go back and listen to that episode,

Starting point is 00:51:30 we covered everything that Target is selling and promoting this year and how disturbing it is. And I encourage you guys at least for the month of June, just give up Target. You can totally do it. I'm wondering if you guys have stood strong. Target has taken a bit of a hit. Because of this, it is slightly, up from the lowest point it hit during mid-June. And so, of course, that's going to happen. That doesn't mean that your divestment from Target doesn't matter, though, even if they still are able to be buoyed. I mean, they're a major corporation. They're backed by their shareholders. And so, yes, of course, they are probably going to be fine. But I still think it's important for us to as much as we can align our dollars with our values.

Starting point is 00:52:18 That for me, I was spending way too much money at Target. I don't boycott everything. I would love to. I don't boycott everything. I was spending too much money at Target and they were just doing too much that I didn't agree with. I also have given up Starbucks. That was a little bit difficult because I really like to drink from there and it's really close to my house and it's really convenient.

Starting point is 00:52:38 Also, toughest one. Toughest one has been anthropology. gave up anthropology. I mean, this is probably the longest that I've gone without buying anything at all from anthropology. But since they decided to put a man and a dress on their Instagram, I was like, oh, okay, maybe it's not a women's clothing store anymore. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:52:58 I don't have broad shoulders like that. So I don't even know if I can fit their dresses. So those are the big ones that I've given up. Of course, when it comes to, like, other little shops or something, I'm always checking to see like what the values are on Instagram and I try to choose the shop that best aligned with my values. And I'm always looking for people and businesses to support. But there are still, I mean, there are still places I go to that spend money in ways that I don't like. I don't know if it's possible to boycott everything.

Starting point is 00:53:29 Maybe. But we should try the best that we possibly can. And Target is a great one because their success rises and falls on people like you, the related gals, the related bells in this audience. So keep it up, keep it up. All right, that's all we've got for today. We will be back here tomorrow. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political.

Starting point is 00:54:00 They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers. wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts.

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