Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 843 | Is 'Barbie' Secretly Conservative?
Episode Date: July 24, 2023Today we're starting off with the backlash against country singer Jason Aldean's new song, "Try That in a Small Town," which describes how small towns wouldn’t put up with the kinds of riots and law...lessness that many big cities experienced during the summer of 2020. CMT removed the music video from the channel, and multiple fellow country artists have spoken out against his "call for violence." The problem? He actually does the opposite, calling for an end to the violence we saw in 2020. Then, Producer Bri joins to discuss "Barbie" and the many hot takes from both conservatives and liberals. Some are claiming it's feminist propaganda, while others think it's a little more nuanced. We share what we think. Then, Vice President Kamala Harris condemned Florida's new teaching curriculum on slavery, but many have pointed out that she's been lying about it. We take a look at the curriculum and explain why leftists are so exhausting when it comes to topics like this. --- Timecodes: (00:54) Intro (04:33) Jason Aldean (17:20) Country music industry backlash (25:00) Comparison to rap (31:55) 'Barbie' (56:03) Florida curriculum --- Today's Sponsors: Birch Gold — protect your future with gold. Text 'ALLIE' to 989898 for a free, zero obligation info kit on diversifying and protecting your savings with gold. Good Ranchers — get $30 OFF your box today at GoodRanchers.com – make sure to use code 'ALLIE' when you subscribe. You'll also lock in your price for two full years with a subscription to Good Ranchers! Patriot Mobile — go to PatriotMobile.com/ALLIE or call 878-PATRIOT and use promo code 'ALLIE' to get free activation! Crazy Little Thing Called Marriage — Focus on the Family's new marriage podcast is a voice you can trust. Dr. Greg and Erin Smalley host the show each episode dives into something really relevant, like communication, intimacy, money issues, or daily stress. You can find Crazy Little Thing Called Marriage on Apple, Spotify or your favorite listening source. --- Links: Florida’s State Academic Standards – Social Studies, 2023 https://www.fldoe.org/core/fileparse.php/20653/urlt/6-4.pdf --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 841 | Great Reset Update: The Next Phase Is Here | Guest: Justin Haskins (Part One) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-841-great-reset-update-the-next-phase-is-here/id1359249098?i=1000621675813 Ep 842 | The Elites’ Plan to Replace God With AI | Guest: Justin Haskins (Part Two) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-842-the-elites-plan-to-replace-god-with-ai-guest/id1359249098?i=1000621802685 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey
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The long-awaited Barbie movie is finally here and apparently it is way more insufferable than people expected.
But we've got an analysis for you from producer Bree and from me on that.
Also, we'll be talking about the backlash to country music star Jason Albu.
Dean's song, try that in a small town. Why is he being called pro lynching? Also, the myth that you see
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All right.
Let's get into the three things that we're going to talk about today.
Let's start with this Jason Aldeen story and then we'll get into the Barbie stuff.
Okay.
I know that you guys probably saw this last week,
but I just had to talk about it because it is so ridiculous.
It's so ridiculous that this is even.
a thing and if you don't know you will so jason al-dean is a country singer and he performed a song or he
released a song in may called try that in a small town may 19th of this year and then the music
video premiered july 14th 2023 and it was after the music video premiered i guess a few days
after that that the song started stoking a lot of controversy because
of its content because of its lyrics. Now, right now, it's got over 15 million views on YouTube,
the music video. It is also the number two most played song in the U.S. on Apple Music. It's climbing
the charts largely because of this controversy. People are calling the song racist, white supremacist,
pro lynching. And I will, I'll tell you why. And obviously,
explain to you why that is absolutely ridiculous. So let me read you some of the lyrics of this.
Sucker punched somebody on a sidewalk, carjack an old lady at a red light, pull a gun on the owner of
a liquor store. You think it's cool. Well, act a fool if you like. Cuss out a cop, spit in his face,
stomp on the flag and light it up. Yeah, you think you're tough. And then here's the chorus.
Well, try that in a small town. See how far you make it down the road. Around here we take care of our
own. You cross that line. It won't take long for you to find out. I recommend you don't.
Try that in a small town. Got a gun. My granddad gave me. They say one day they're going to round up.
Well, that bleep might fly in the city. Good luck. Try that in a small town. So basically that on repeat.
And then you've got the music video that in the background, you do see some different riots that are
reminiscent of 2020, 2021 and the different reports of violence that we've seen. It seems
increased dramatically over the past few years. And here is a clip of that music video that people
are so upset about.
Suck a fuck somebody on a sidewalk carjacking old lady had a red light. Pull a gun on the owner of
a liquor store. You think it's cool. I'd like to fool if you like.
A cop spitting his face.
Scope on the flag and light it up.
Do you think it's tough?
Try that in a small town.
See how far you make it down the road.
Around here we take care of our own.
Okay.
So there it is.
In the background, you've got a lot of the things that were happening in 2020.
The disrespects towards police officers, the burning of the flag.
the rights, the protests, the theft happening at convenience stores. People didn't like that.
People also noted that he was standing in front of the building, apparently, that has some racist historic significance.
And so people are, as I said, calling him a racist. So here's some of the backlash that he's received.
Shannon Watts of Mom's Demand Action. She blocked me on Twitter a long time ago, I think like 2017.
She took issue with the lyrics since Aldine survived the Las Vegas mass shooting.
She posted the lyrics and said, Jason Aldine, who was on stage during the mass shooting at a Las Vegas concert at 2017 that killed 60 people and wounded over 400 more, has recorded a song called Try That in a Small Town about he and his friends will shoot you if you try to take their guns.
That's not what he said.
police reform activist Brittany Pachnit Cunningham accused the singer of not telling the truth about shootings in small towns saying that most mass shootings occur in small towns she said Yuvaldei VA Tech Newtown Parkland all of these were small towns most mass shootings occur in small towns your listeners are dying now this is not true she may have been referencing um an AP report in 2018 that said that nine out of 10 of the deadliest school.
shootings in the U.S. took place in a town with fewer than 75,000 residents.
And the vast majority of them were in cities with fewer than 50,000 people.
But as far as mass shootings go, it is not true that most of those are happening in small
towns. According to CBS for mass shootings in which four or more people are hit by gunfire,
that's how it's defined. In all of the United States, Chicago has the greatest number of any
city large or small. There have been 24 mass shootings in Chicago this year alone. This was in 2022,
which have left 12 people dead and 101 people injured. We know this. Okay, this is gaslighting. We know where
the violence is happening. And by the way, if you adjusted the definition of mass shooting to be
three or more, the number of mass shootings that would be recorded occurring in those large
cities would spike drastically. Philadelphia comes in second with 14 mass shootings last year,
followed by New York City with 10, Baltimore with 8 and Houston with 7. Of course, we know that just
run-of-the-mill gang violence, gun violence happens frequently in those cities. I mean, who are we
kidding? We know where the majority of gun violence is happening. Now, I'm not saying that violence
never happens in small towns. I'm not saying that it's not a problem, but we understand what
inner cities look like. Like we understand how dangerous it can be to take public transportation in
those areas. We understand that the downtowns of most of those major cities have been absolutely
decimated by the progressive social justice pro-drug, pro-crime policies that have been
implemented by Democrats. We understand that. And so they can try to gaslight us. They can try to
manipulate us. They can try to say that Jason Aldean doesn't know what he's talking about.
We all know the truth.
So again, he is also being accused of being pro lynching.
Mississippi Free Press news editor, Ashton Pittman,
criticized Aldine for choosing a controversial location,
the Mari County Courthouse in Columbia, Tennessee.
Apparently, there was a white lynching mob that killed a person there in 1927,
as if I'm sure that Jason Aldeen,
I'm sure that he knew that piece of history.
and he decided, oh, I am going to commemorate this terrible, awful thing that happened in 1927 here.
Okay.
The company that produced the music video tackle box films responded with the statement saying that Aldine did not choose the filming location.
Of course, of course not.
The production company says any alternative narrative suggesting the music videos location decision is false.
Alternative narrative to what they said, that this is a podcast.
popular place to film different kinds of videos. The women at the view weighed in with Sunny
Hostin claiming Aldine's hometown is one of the most racist places ever. And she doesn't believe
he didn't understand the symbolism. Here she is. You do agree that he should be allowed to say
whatever he wants. As a lawyer, when I put my legal hat on, I don't believe in censorship.
However, this man is from Macon, Georgia. My father's from Augusta, Georgia, and Macon, Georgia.
I spent many summers there.
Yeah, both.
I spent many summers there.
It's one of the most racist places in this country.
So don't tell me that he knew nothing about what that imagery meant.
I didn't say he did know anything.
So I don't give him the benefit.
But I'm saying along with him, more people should also be health accountable.
And unfortunately, this became the number one song on U.S. iTunes.
U.S. iTunes.
Did you hear that make in Georgia?
I've been to good old making Georgia.
How do you quantify that?
Like, how do you decide that a city is one of the most racist places?
How do you measure that?
It's just because it's in the South and there's a lot of white people.
And at one point, there were slaves.
Like, how do you decide what city in the United States is the most racist?
Augusta, Georgia, also been there.
Beautiful.
Actually, look.
Right here. Right here. This does not stand for the racist capital of the world, by the way.
That just happens to be where they hold the masters every year. But Sunny says that they're the most racist places in the world.
And so because of where he's from, because Jason Aldeen is from Macon, Georgia, he understands the symbolism of a courthouse in Columbia, Tennessee because that makes a whole lot of sense.
This is her apparently with her, like, lawyer hat on, she says.
Okay. So the country music industry is also.
is also criticizing him.
They are also throwing him under the bus because of this apparently racist song.
And I just want to pause for a second and say that the lyrics never mention race.
They never mention black people.
They never mentioned melanin count.
They never mention the color of someone skin.
In fact, in the music video, if you saw, like, there are white women.
There are people of all different ethnicities, of all different melanin counts represented.
in the music video. The common theme was violence. The common theme was disrespect and destruction.
That's what he is opposing. And yet they're making it about black people. Now, maybe the people
who see this automatically as some kind of racist dog whistle should ask themselves why they
automatically think of black people when they hear the term carjacking. Why do you automatically
think of black people when you hear lyrics about theft or burning the flag or causing destruction
and disarray and committing those crimes. Why is that where your mind goes? Maybe you should ask yourself
that. Race is never explicitly mentioned in any of these lyrics and yet all of your minds immediately go to
black people committing those crimes. And so you accuse Chasin Aldean of being a white supremacist.
when he never talks about black people.
Maybe you should ask yourself why that is where your mind so quickly, automatically goes.
Hey, this is Steve Day.
If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country
aren't just political.
They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself.
On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles,
faith, truth, and objective reality.
We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.
we ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular.
This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos.
If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed,
you can watch this T-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts.
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So as I said, CMT, country music television, the country music industry, they are also saying,
oh my goodness, this is just an awful song.
I can't believe that Jason Aldeen is doing this.
Okay, so CMT, country music television,
pulls the controversial Jason Aldeen music video,
so they won't play it.
They won't play it anymore.
CMT confirmed that after initially airing Jason Aldean's music video,
the network pulled the video from air.
The video debuted on July 14th.
It was pulled by July 17th.
Cheryl Crow, Grammy Award winning artist.
She added her disgust to the commentary to the dialogue.
She said,
I'm from a small town. Even people in small towns are sick of violence. There's nothing small town or
American about promoting violence. I would say that's exactly what he's saying. He's sick of the
violence. Like he's sick of the crime. He's sick of criminals getting away with violating the rights
and the safety of vulnerable people. She says you should know that better than anyone having
survived a mass shooting. This is not American or small town like. It's just lame.
Jason Isbell, he is a Grammy Award winning singer-songwriter.
He said, dare Al Dean to write his next single himself.
That's what we try in my small town.
And then you've got Jake Owen, who is also a country star.
And he said, Jason to this Jason Isbell person,
you're always the first to get behind your keyboard and spout off with this stupid bleep.
In my small town, you just walk up to.
the guy and be a man to his face if you want the smoke, not tweet at him, tough guy. And so there was all kinds
of back and forth, a lot of people defending Jason Aldeen, a lot of people criticizing Al Dean
online over the weekend. And this probably wouldn't have been a controversy in country music
a few years ago, even five to 10 years ago. But because country music has gotten more liberal,
because it's moved to the left, just like every other institution, every other industry.
Now saying something like, yeah, we're going to take care of ourselves, our families, our friends,
our community in a small town.
We're going to be anti-crime.
We're going to be anti-exploiting the weak and the vulnerable.
We're going to be anti-destruction and chaos and anarchy in my small town.
Now that's apparently very not just controversy at all, but also outright racist.
Now, the Al-Dians have been the center of controversy.
the past because they're very outspoken about not liking Joe Biden.
And Brittany Aldeen, Jason Aldeen's wife is very popular on social media.
And she has merchandise that is anti-Biden.
They're very pro-America.
They're very conservative anti-democrat and all of that.
And so Marin Morris is another country singer.
And she has called Brittany Aldean insurrection,
insurrection Barbie being accused him of being transphobic, whatever the heck.
That means.
Marin Morris was also one of the artists, along with Cheryl Crowe, along with Jason Isbell,
and some other country singers to announce their participation earlier this year in something
called Love Rising, which was a benefit concert taking place in Nashville to support
Tennessee-based LGBTQ organizations.
The event was held in response to two laws passed in Tennessee, one that bans so-called
gender affirming care on minors and the other prohibiting drag queens from performing in front
of minors.
And so all of these country stars decided that they were going to perform a concert to support
kids getting chemically castrated and girls getting double mastectomies because they're
supposedly confused about their gender.
They performed a concert to support the idea of drag queens, aka grown men in scandalous outfits, reading books in front of kids, dancing, twerking, in front of kids.
That's what they wanted to support.
That's what they wanted to make sure that you knew they were on the side of.
So that's where a lot of country music is going.
You'll also remember that Kelsey Bellarini, that she performed a song, We React,
to at the CMAs earlier this year. Her song was or is, if you go down, I'm going down too. She
basically is describing the loyalty of her friendship that if she decides, if her friend decides to
kill her husband, that Kelsey Ballerini is going to be on her side and keep her secret. So
these lyrics apparently are totally fine, can even be performed at the CMAs. She said,
I keep all your secrets by the dozen.
You know where my skeleton sleep.
Hypothetically, if you ever kill your husband, hand on the Bible, I'd be lying through my teeth.
So we can talk about that, apparently.
That's okay.
Talking about killing your husband and then lying about it, that's fine.
But talking about defending yourself, self-defense in a small town, that's just too far for the country music world.
She also sang the song on stage at the CMT Awards, the CMA earlier ago.
this year, surrounded by a bunch of drag queens from RuPaul's drag race. Again, it seemed like
she was taking a stand on the Senate Bill 3 in Tennessee, which prohibits drag performers in front
of minors. So they're saying these things are wonderful. Like, we should allow men in prosthetic
brass to twerk and to shimmy and to dance in front of children. That's where the country
music industry is now. And I guess the Aldeans are outside of that, because
they're sane people. And so because they're outside of that, they have to be ostracized
or they have to be criticized. They have to be demonized by all of these woke, super progressive
country music stars. So times they are a change in. They are a change in. Like this is where
the country music world is now. Jason Aldeen has a response to all of this craziness. And it's a
long response. I won't read the whole thing. He does talk about how he never brought up race in the
song. Try that in a small town for me refers to the feeling of a community that I had growing up
where we took care of our neighbors regardless of differences of background or belief because they
were our neighbors and that was above any differences. My political views have never been
something I've hidden from and I know that a lot of us in this country don't agree on how we get
back to a sense of normalcy where we go at least a day without a headline that keeps us up at night.
But the desire for it to, that's what this song is about. So,
whether you like the song or not, whether you're a fan of country music, whether you think the song is cool or corny, it really doesn't matter. He does not deserve the backlash that he has received. He definitely doesn't deserve for the music video to be taken off country music television. He's also talked about cancel culture and how it's ruining our country, how it's not allowing us to get to a place of unity anymore.
And I've also seen a lot of people point out just how hypocritical the criticism is of Jason
Aldeen here.
There is a lot of comparisons.
There are a lot of comparisons going around between Jason Aldean's lyrics and the rap lyrics
that are literally destructive to black Americans.
So compare what we know from Jason Aldean's song to songs like this.
me what you think is more detrimental, is more deleterious to black people in America.
Here's a song. Rapper Jeffrey Young Thug Williams. I don't know anything about this person.
It might surprise you to learn that I don't regularly listen to rap. But it was in the top 100 on the U.S. singles chart.
So this is not just random. He says this, I got a bag and ain't enough. My left.
wrist bling yes it is tough i killed his man in front of his mama like it i don't know like oh
f little bruh sister and his cousin now i kick my s that ain't no punt like f my wrist it ain't enough
now f my b till it ain't nothing i shoot out blank still ain't cuffin up and obviously if you've
listened to any rap music at all. Like, you will know that murder is a theme. Violence is a theme.
Theft is a theme. Superficiality, materialism, money for the sake of money. All of these are very
prominent themes in rap and hip-hop music. You've got Tyler the creator song Troncat.
Now, he's a Grammy-winning artist, most of you probably know who he is. While you inward, stack
bread, I can stack a couple dead bodies. Making red look less of a color, more of a hobby.
Rape a pregnant bee and tell my friends I had a threesome. You got a effing death wish. I'm a genie.
It'll get done. So this is a Grammy Award winning artist. And then we've got an artist
named Sukihana. She apparently is popular. And she's got a music video out that I can
can't it's been circulating on Twitter. I cannot show you. I can't show you the video. I will show
you this full screen though in this awful music video that will just make you want to burn your eyes.
She is holding a baby for some reason. She's holding a baby in a baby carrier and around her
or a bunch of nearly naked people twerking. They're twerking on roofs. They're twerking on each other.
They're twerking people's face. It's.
very, very odd. And here are some of the lyrics. I'm a west side ho. Everybody know that. I F with
the boosters and the bees that sell they stamps and bees that sell they P-word with their legs on a ramp.
I'm a F your baby daddy and I'm a F him again. I'm a wow, I can't even like abbreviate this.
S is D with no hand without no hands.
without no hands. So is that with hands? Spend his bread. Then F, yo, man. You heard what I said.
What the F I said. I'll beat yo A. Then F yo man. So here's, those are some popular songs
that are circulating right now. And I think it's pretty explicit that they are promoting violence
in all kinds of depravity and degeneracy.
You cannot tell me that the same people who are promoting songs like this
are really truly offended and harmed by Jason Aldine's song about not tolerating
carjacking.
I mean, let's be serious here.
Because I know people get so offended when you say, oh, well,
rap music and a lot of hip-hop music like it's really degenerate it probably doesn't have a great
effect on the people who are listening to it this is probably not the best influence on young people
no matter what you're race and ethnicity people get so offended by that like no this is just art
this has no effect on people this doesn't impact people at all people can listen to this and it's
just great and it's edifying it's just the beat it's just artistry it's just creativity like
we should just accept this and celebrate this and if you criticize this at all you're racist
those people who have just, I guess, such like an objective sense of what makes for high quality art,
all the sudden believe that song lyrics from Jason Aldeen are going to become humans and start a lynching mob
in front of a courthouse in Columbia, Tennessee.
So which one is it?
Like, does songs really matter?
Are they a real reflection of culture?
and people's morality? Are they really impactful and really dangerous? Can they really make a
tangible difference? Or do they not? Because if so, I think we can find far more examples of the explicit
promotion of violence and degeneracy in a lot of the rap songs that are promoted than we can in any
of Jason Aldine songs. So again, let's just be real about that. It's just because you're not allowed to promote
self-defense. That's the thing. You're not allowed to promote self-defense. You're not allowed to promote
whatever small town values are. That is supposed to make us very angry. But songs like the ones
that I just read the lyrics from, those are not supposed to make us angry. We're supposed to ignore
that and pretend like those are indicative of healthy culture and healthy morality. I don't know.
I'm just not there. I'm not there. All right. Let's talk about Barbie. Now, I did not see Barbie
myself and I will not see Barbie. So I'm just letting you know that. But producer Bree has been
wanting to see or yeah, she's been talking about Barbie for a long time. She's been really excited
about seeing Barbie. She's like, oh my gosh, this is one of my favorite directors. And I was like,
no one says that unless you went to USC, which she did. That's a very USC graduate thing to say
that I went to the University of Southern California and I lived in Southern California. And up there,
we have favorite directors. So Greta, Gerwig,
right is one of your favorite directors what else is she directed she has directed well the most
notable thing she directed was the new adaptation of little women which i thought was brilliant
i like little women i haven't seen it it's so good i think she added really beautiful touches to it
she's great so you were hopeful for barbie that it would be good i was so hopeful were you yeah
oh that it would be good yeah yeah i mean i trusted her
her is the thing I did okay um yeah I trusted her fully I got inklings as I went in though
yeah well other people saw it before you did and I'm sure you saw some of the commentary online that it was
you know a very explicit progressive agenda which we'll get into but the marketing for it leading up to
it you've got margot Robbie and you've got Ryan Gosling I really like both of them a lot and they did
a really good job of making you think this is just going to be
be a fun movie that is over the top and really colorful.
But I knew.
I'm like, we don't produce as a country, those kinds of movies anymore.
We don't produce non-political content.
Everything has to have an agenda.
Everything has to have an underlying progressive message.
There's no way they are going to put out a movie that's just a bunch of pretty people
having a good time with a normal rising action climax, falling action,
conclusion type arc.
There's just no way that they're going to do it.
So I didn't know anything about Greta.
So I didn't know, you know, what it was going to be.
But I just had the expectation because so few movies or shows nowadays come out just
because of entertainment value.
So let me play a little bit of the trailer first because I just want to show people if you
didn't see the many, many ads for this that have been coming out leading up to the release of
the movie. I want you to see that any kind of political messaging was very carefully excluded
from any of these teasers or trailers or clips that we saw. So here's a little bit of that.
In the real world, that's impossible. If this got out, this could mean extremely weird things for our world.
This would be catastrophic!
We haven't played with Barbie since we were like five years old.
Oh!
No one rests until this doll is back in a box.
Humans only have one ending.
Get that Barbie!
Ideas live forever.
No, I won't let you do just one appendectomy.
But I'm a man.
but not a doctor.
Can I talk to a doctor?
You are talking to a doctor.
I need a clicky pen?
No.
A sharp thing.
No.
There he is.
Doctor.
Somebody gets security.
Is Bobby Boots if you're still in doubt?
Okay, so you did kind of see an indication of what it was going to be right in that last conversation with Ryan Gosling.
But, okay, if I just saw the trailer, I would want to see that movie.
Not knowing everything that I know now about our entertainment industry, 2010,
me would have loved that movie because the 2010 version of that movie would have been just funny
and sweet and maybe pushing the boundaries a little bit when it comes to sexual promiscuity
and whatever and suggestive language and things like that. But back in 2010, like honestly,
2006 to 2012 had some really, no, 2004, because it got to go back and get the notebook in there.
2004 to like 2012 had some really great entertaining movies. This would have been a really great
movie then. But Bree, tell us, like, what really happened? What was the plot? And then what were the
obvious themes that were being portrayed? Yeah. So I will preface this. I've seen some people who
really hated the movie saying how outrageous it was that this was for kids. It's not for kids.
I didn't think it was for kids either. I was very confused when people said that. I was like,
it's not. It's rated PG-13. People may argue that people are going to take their kids anyway. They
probably will, but it's not rated for kids.
So keep that in mind.
So Margaropi plays stereotypical Barbie.
Each Barbie in Barbiesland has their own like, you know, Dr. Barbie, lawyer Barbie, etc.
And they all live in Barbieland.
And it's a matriarchal society where women are in charge of everything and the
kens are just kind of there.
And each Barbie has a ken and they don't do anything really except for,
just kind of go to the beach.
And then one day, Barbie suddenly is, like, stricken with these worries about mortality.
And she doesn't know where they're coming from.
And she is told by Kate McKinnon's character that she has to go into the real world.
There's a rift.
And she has to go into the real world.
Kate McKinnon is the weird Barbie girl, right?
She plays a weird Barbie.
She's been played with too much or something.
Yeah, which is a good gag.
Yeah.
And she has to go into the real world and find the little girl who's playing with her
because her like feelings her sad feelings are seeping into barbie land they don't explain why no other
barbie has ever dealt with this because surely there are other sad kids right yeah but um so she goes
into the real world with ken ken follows her and um their arrival in the real world alarms the
metel CEO um he's he's alarmed by this who's will feral and he orders their capture marbie
She tracks down her owner, which is a tween girl named Sasha, who criticizes her for encouraging
unrealistic beauty standards.
And then she finds out it's not Sasha that's her owner.
It's Sasha's mom who picked up the Barbie one day and like to try to find a sense of like joy
as a kid.
Again, she started like making these drawings of like cellulite Barbie and depression Barbie and
things like that.
The mom did?
Yeah. Okay. And that's why this Margarabi Barbie is like feeling those things because the mom was playing with her.
They have to rescue the, they have to rescue Barbie from Mattel who's trying to put her in a box and send her back to Barbie land, which is what she wants. So I was confused why she didn't want that also. But so she goes into the world to try to figure out why she's sad. Yeah.
Okay. So yeah. So she goes, she finds out why Mattel wants to put her in a box and send her back to Barbie land. Yeah. She says no. I instead I'm going to go back to Barbie land with these two, with the mom and the daughter that I found. Okay. Okay. I don't know. So they go back to Barbie land. Meanwhile, Ken has learned about the patriarchy. Okay. He has gone off in his own. Is that just like a random insertion? Or do you say,
see that throughout. It's a whole, it's the plot, which you'll see in a second. Okay. He, meanwhile,
while Barbie's doing this, is walking around and he's realizing, wow, people respect me here. People
think I'm like in charge of things here. He's walking around. Okay, in the real world. Yeah,
they're both in the real world. Okay, because in Barbie land, it's girls, girls rule. Yeah,
the reverse. Yeah. Okay. So, and he's kind of seen as a secondary character in Barbie land and not as
important. And so now he goes to the real world and he realizes that the patriarchy exists where
kin rules. Yeah. Yeah. He's seeing businessmen and he's seeing doctors who are men. And he's like,
wow, men can do that. So he takes the patriarchy, which is actually called that, back to Barbie land.
So they don't even, why do you think, like, let me just pause. Like, why don't you think they even
try to come up with like a clever name for it? I think it's intentional.
on the nose because a lot of the gags are.
I just don't think it comes off like they intended for it too.
Okay.
So he goes back to Barbie Land, turns it into the patriarchy.
And when Barbie and the mom and daughter get back there, they've realized Ken has completely
taken over.
Now Barbie Land is Ken Dumb.
And it's just run by men.
So they have to hatch a plan to take Barbie
land back and make it a matriarchy again. And they do this by completely manipulating the men
in a very toxic way by each Barbie who has their own ken. She goes off and flirts with a different
kid. And that gets the ken's all riled up and then they start fighting each other and get distracted.
And that's how they win back Barbie land for the women, female empowerment.
And then at the end, Barbie meets with the creator, the ghost of the creator of Barbie, Ruth Handler, and asks her if she can become a human because she's still struggling with the purpose of her life.
So she wants to go back into the patriarchy.
She's like, this matriarchy stuff sucks.
Yeah.
And so she does.
As she becomes a human, it's not really explaining how she's able to do that.
And the last scene is Barbie going into a gynecologist appointment.
So that's her humanity.
That's what it boils down to.
But she doesn't have really friends or family or anything.
So does Ken end up?
Ken ends up what?
Oh, yeah.
So when they take over, again, Barbie land when the women take over.
Barbie apologizes to Ken for kind of sliding him.
And, you know, but she says, I'm still not interested in you.
You have to figure out who you are apart for me.
me but like sorry for not paying attention to you that much I guess and he's like okay I'll find out
who I am on my own that's the end of his story so he's still in Barbie land he's still in Barbie land under
the matriarchy and she goes to the patriarchy yeah she has to get a gynecologist she has to go to
the gynecologist yeah so um here are some of the ideological issues that I found in the first
of all in the opening scene I haven't seen a lot of people point this out of
out. It's an homage to 2001 of Space Odyssey, but it's all these little girls playing with dolls
with baby dolls. And the narrator's explaining, you know, little girls have always played with
dolls, but they've always been baby dolls until Barbie came around. And then there's a slow motion
scene of all these little girls, like smashing their baby dolls, like on rocks and like
destroying their baby dolls because now Barbie exists. And I just thought it was kind of, it was
little like a little on the nose. I don't think they were going for like abortion. This is about
abortion. But it's, but it's still a little destroying babies. And also it's like not true
because girls still play with baby. I know. I know. Um, another thing, that teen girl, she has a speech
when Barbie comes up to her. Sasha. Yes, Sasha. Um, she says, this is a quote from the movie.
You represent everything wrong with our culture. You destroyed the planet with your glorification of rampant
consumerism you fascist that's what the teenage girl says to Barbie well I'll let you keep going I'll
ask this question because it I'll ask this question later because it could apply to everything that you're
saying okay the other thing I found funny was there there's a man playing a woman playing a Barbie
in this movie okay um so there's also a trans yeah uh like man I didn't find as a woman right
that I mean oh oh okay got it got it um so this is actor Harri Neff I
think is his name, but he's playing Dr. Barbie, which I thought was a funny touch.
And I just, this whole movie is about patriarchy and feminism and whatnot.
And I just thought it was really ironic that they hired a man and took a woman's job for this movie.
Patriarchy is a man stealing woman's job.
Is it not?
But okay.
And then there's a big issue of Ken.
Barbie doesn't like Ken in this movie.
she finds him annoying. At one point she says, I don't want you here. She doesn't really want
anything to do with him. All he wants is to be treated decently and to be respected. And that's
pretty clear in the film. But I found it odd because he, Ken was created to be a companion for Barbie,
like the toys. And the whole movie, he's just, his moral is he has to learn to be apart from
her. So it's just, it's over, the overwhelming point is,
that women don't need men and women don't enjoy men. And it's because of patriarchy. And in the end,
men are still subservient to women. And that's how it's intended to be. So my question is, do you think
it's a promotion of that idea or a critique of that idea? Because I've seen both takes because it's so
on the nose, because it's so obvious, because everyone does, or it seems like a lot of people do end up
feeling bad for Ken.
And because she goes back to the patriarchy, the so-called patriarchy, by going to
the real world, some people are saying, no, this has a conservative message.
They're making fun.
Like in that Sasha speech, they're making fun of young people for saying things like that
when young people are super consumeristic.
And then calling someone else, calling Barbie, like the reason for consumerism, the reason for
fascism, whatever.
So what do you think?
Do you think it's a promotion of those ideas or a critique of that?
them? I think it's a promotion. I think that's a stretch. People saying that it's critiquing
those progressive ideas. There are, there are a couple lines where I'm like, oh, they like almost
got it. Sasha at one point is talking about Barbie and she's like, why are you like following that
nut job? And then she stops herself and she goes, I mean, like, intellectually challenged. So it's
like, that's supposed to be a joke. Yeah. But so it might be played with like a little bit
humor but the overall message of the story is is not that it's not we're making fun of this so why do you
think they have her going back to the patriarchy then and that basically showing the matriarchy is not
fun and it's like the way that it was achieved is through manipulation yeah I mean they don't point
those those things out though she goes back to to the patriarchy back to the real world because
she now has these feelings that she can't escape so it's more of a
like now I'm a human and I need to grapple with like the good and bad of being a human.
But at the end it says, you know, in in Barbie land, the men have asked for some leadership roles
now that, you know, at the end of the movie, they ask, you know, can maybe we have one man
on the Supreme Court in Barbie land? And President Barbie says, no, but we can maybe put one of you
like at a lower circuit court position. And the narrator says maybe one day in Barbie land, the men
will have just as much power as the women have in the real world.
And so, I mean...
It's pretty obvious what they're trying to do.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious.
I know people are mad.
I saw this tweet from someone who, a progressive, lots of flags in their in their Twitter.
And they said, two quibbles, raging heteronormativity and gender essentialism, but near
perfection in movie form.
So they really love, they didn't love the gender.
They didn't love that it was Barbie and Ken.
Oh, yeah.
And they're both white.
They're both good looking.
They're both thin.
So that part was wrong.
It should have been more diverse.
But the radical feminism was really awesome.
Yeah.
So.
Okay.
So I got it.
You don't think it's a critique.
Some people saying it was a conservative message.
I saw Libby Emmons.
We've had her on our show several times.
Why is the impulse of feminism to leave women alone unmarried childless without close friends, without community?
The reframing of what women want as identifiably male and big.
is doing disservice to women and it's fully exemplified in the Barbby movie.
I mean, it does sound like that's what they showed, like that basically the pinnacle of
womanhood is to have power to be working and to be in positions that have been traditionally
held by men to be, I guess, without kids smashing your baby dolls, whatever that was
supposed to represent alone unmarried.
And we know from every data set that's available to us that that's not what makes people
happy. Being alone, being childless in general is not what leads to supreme happiness. I'm not saying
that no one in that position can be happy, but being without community, without purpose, without your,
without any sense of like belonging is not what makes people happy. And men are still men and women are still
women. And whether you like it or not, we still have different inclinations. We still have different
strengths. We still have different abilities that drive us to occupy different spheres. There is, do we have
the clip of Snow White and the reaction to the Snow White girl saying, Snow White is also another movie
that's being reproduced to be more woke, to be more liberal, to be more diverse and to change the
narrative that women need men and I guess also that the seven dwarves were all these like white men.
Now they're this array of genders and colors and all of this stuff.
But here was a red carpet reaction from the girl playing snow white about how this version of
snow white is an improvement on the archaic snow white.
You said you were bringing a modern edge to it on Sid.
What do you mean by that?
I just mean that it's no longer 1937.
And we absolutely wrote a snow white.
She's not going to be saved by the prince.
She's not going to be saved by the prince.
And she's not going to be dreaming about true love.
She's dreaming about becoming the leader she knows she can be.
And the leader that her late father told her that she could be if she was fearless, fair, brave, and true.
And so it's just a really incredible story for, I think, young people everywhere to see themselves in.
Hmm.
What's wrong with dreaming about true love?
What's wrong with wanting to be loved?
What's wrong with wanting to be married? What's wrong with wanting to find the one? And it depends on what you think
about the one. And if you think there's just one person or whether you think there's lots of people that you could be
compatible with and end up with. But the fact of the matter is, the goal is to find the one person that you
want to share life with forever that you're totally and completely committed to. I mean, that's a very high
aspiration. I agree that that's not always the only aspiration or the highest aspiration. The highest aspiration is to
glorify God. You can glorify God as a single person. You can glorify God as a wife and mom. You can
glorify God in many stations in life. God may or may not have marriage promised for you, but it is still
a worthy goal. It is a worthy thing to long for and to put some form in some healthy form
of hope and work into, of course. But apparently that's just passe. That's just superficial.
That's archaic. That's something that people cared about in 1937, but don't care about anymore.
look it's a lie women still want to be protected they still want to be pursued they still want to be
provided for i don't care what kind of tough exterior a woman is portraying to the world i promise you
she doesn't want a feminine flimsy man who just does as he's told she doesn't does she want a compassionate
kind sensitive man who is willing to you know support her as she supports him sure in a lot of
lot of ways. Yes. I think that that's absolutely true. Does she want this guy who doesn't care
about her feelings? Who's just this macho guy who pretends who patronizes her, belittles her,
pretends like she's not capable of anything. No. But a woman wants a strong man. I promise you
she does. Now, I think some women have deceived themselves and thinking they want a weak man,
but they always end up being disappointed. And unfortunately, our society doesn't praise strength
in men. Does it praise masculinity? Does it praise masculinity? Does it praise.
raise responsibility and provision and protection and all of these things that I think men can
very uniquely provide. And so it's getting harder and harder for women to find those kind of men.
But I promise you, deep down in our heart of hearts, women want strong men. We want masculine men.
We want to be protected. We want to be provided for. We want to be pursued. Absolutely.
And movies like this that completely get wrong people's hearts that completely get wrong.
human nature, they don't do well.
This movie is not going to do well.
Traditionally, Disney movies over the past couple of years have not done well because people
don't want a diversified, wokeified version of their favorite movies from the 80s and 90s.
Or, you know, the mid-1900, people don't want that.
They would rather watch the 1937 version of Snow White than get this new and quote-unquote
improved version that just makes them feel bad and confused about the world.
It's so stupid.
But Disney doesn't care, just like so many other companies, they don't care about making money.
It's not about making money.
If they cared about making money, then they would have kept Sound of Freedom.
They dropped Sound of Freedom, which is still number three in the United States right now, which is pretty incredible.
So, ranking in tens of millions dollars, despite all of the theater issues that are happening across the country to, I guess, try to inhibit people from being able to watch the movie.
But they don't care about money.
They care about an agenda.
It goes back to a lot of what Justin and I were talking about last.
week. So make sure you go check out those episodes about why this radical and huge transformation
of every sector of society is happening, what it is tied to. Yes, it's a spiritual war, but there's
also a lot of other things behind it. Okay, I was hoping to end in under an hour. Let me just do
this real quick. I'm not going to be able to get into all of this stuff about the Florida
slavery curriculum, Kamala Harris and all of that. This could be a really long segment. Maybe we'll
get more into it later this week. But basically what you're hearing is that Ron DeSantis and
the state of Florida, because they're trying to change education from just being progressive
indoctrination to being based on facts and encouraging critical thinking that they are now
introducing a pro-slavery curriculum. You're probably seeing people on your timeline say that Florida,
the new curriculum, is promoting the idea that slaves actually benefited for.
from slavery. And so therefore, slavery was nuanced or it was good. And you had Kamala Harris, the
vice president of the United States, going down to Florida last week and saying this, here she was
on July 20th, giving a speech. Just yesterday in the state of Florida, they decided middle school
students will be taught that enslaved people benefited from slavery. They insult us in an attempt
to gaslight us and we will not stand for it.
Okay, so I thought she was in Florida.
She wasn't in Florida, but she was giving that speech about the state of Florida.
There are some other people who criticized him on this several people, several
headlines saying New Florida Standards teach students that some black people benefited
from slavery because it taught useful skills.
CBS Florida schools to teach personal benefit of slavery under new black history curriculum.
DeSantis, according to.
to Washington Post seeks to whitewash slavery in Florida curriculum. But if you actually read the
216 page document, which we will put in the description of this episode, you will see that that's
not what's going on at all. The curriculum, like I said, is 216 pages. And so it's very long.
It might take you a long time to go through all over the bullet points, but it's very transparent
about what it's going to be teaching. It's going to be teaching these students everything about
slavery, how horrific it is, the methods used to buy these people from Africa, bring them over to
the West, enslave them, what shadow slavery looked like, how harsh the conditions were.
But they're also going to teach them about the different forms of slavery that were happening,
that were happening in the world.
And by the way, teaching them that these Africans sold into slavery were sold by other Africans
who were also enslaving them.
that slavery, that shadow slavery is not unique to the United States, it's not unique to the West,
it's certainly not unique to white people or any ethnicity, that unfortunately this was a very
tragic and absolutely disgusting practice that happened throughout the world, basically in every
society that has ever existed and is still prevalent in parts of the world today. I don't know if they
were going to teach that last part, the prevalence of slavery today, which people seem to be much
less incensed about, but they are going to teach the history of slavery and all the different
aspects of it. One part of this slavery curriculum is to say that some slaves, because of their
own resilience, because of their own character, because of their own work ethic, were actually
able to use some of the skills that they gained through the disgusting practice of chattel
slavery to then later benefit themselves. Frederick Douglass.
is one such example.
So you have people.
I've even seen conservatives.
They try so hard.
Some of these conservatives,
they try so hard to prove.
Oh, I'm moderate.
I'm reasonable.
I see some points at the left.
I'm going to call out my side when I need to call out my side.
And because they're so desperate to do that,
they won't even look at the facts of a situation.
They just want to put their commentary out there
so they can, like, score some point from the other side
or pretend like, you know,
I don't know, like they're fair and impartial and all that, but they almost always get it wrong when they try to do that.
And so I saw some people, some Fox News commentators, some people on the right, some conservatives saying,
oh yeah, you know, I like DeSantis, but this is awful. I can't believe they're trying to whitewash slavery.
This is not whitewashing slavery. There's nothing about this curriculum that we can see from the link that's provided for us that justify slavery in any way.
Like understand how the propaganda machine works at this point.
If anything sounds too good or too bad, as we have talked about before, about the opposing side, then it's probably not completely true.
There's probably something that you need to look into yourself, especially when it comes to Republicans and the right.
Why do I say especially when it comes to Republicans and the right?
Because the mainstream media, most of the institutions in this country are dominated by.
leftism. And so of course they're going to have a bias against the right. Of course you're not
going to be able to trust a headline from the Washington Post or a headline from CBS or NBC. They
hate the right. They hate conservatives. They hate Republicans. Of course they're going to lie. You really
think that you can believe Vice President Kamala Harris when she says that Florida is promoting slavery?
You really think that you can take her at her word? She can't even put a coherent sentence together. Her
brain doesn't work that quickly. So you think that she is going to be able to tell you the truth?
You think she has that capacity? I'm not true that she does. Most of what comes out of her mouth is
just a completely incoherent, rambling mess of a mad woman. Or it's a lie. Like you should know
that at this point, no matter what side of the aisle that you're on. So no, this curriculum doesn't
promote the benefits of slavery. It is it whitewash slavery. Like let's think a little bit, guys. Let's
use our critical thinking skills or just use that thumb. Just use that thumb that you have to
click a couple links and to read things yourself. Now we've all made mistakes. We've all been hasty.
We've all said things that we shouldn't have said. We've all commented on things too quickly.
We've all believed what we want to believe because we have preconceived notions of what the other
side is like. I've done that. I apologize for that. I see this way too much though when it comes
to Christian women in race.
Christian women in race, Christian conservative women.
When it comes to these racial issues, they are so quick to jump on whatever narrative
is being pushed out there that black people are being marginalized by curriculum or laws
or whatever it is because they want to be seen as at least in this area, progressive
or an ally or whatever.
And they end up perpetuating a lie.
And that really bothers me.
It's bothered me so much since 2020 because I see this gollibility and this naivete and maybe this purposeful ignorance because you want to be accepted by this group of people.
You want to be seen as moderate.
You want to be seen as nuanced.
And so you don't do the work to actually look into a headline like this because saying that, oh, Ron DeSantis promotes racism and white supremacy through Florida curriculum will score you some points with the racial reconciliation crowd.
It's sad.
Don't lie. Don't be gullable. I mean, those aren't Christian virtues. Let's be thoughtful. Let's be
critical thinkers. Let's look past these stupid headlines. This is a great curriculum as far as I can see.
I don't know. I can't vouch for it. I haven't seen every single page of the curriculum.
This is just a summary, this 2,000 or a 216 page document. But from what I've seen, it's good.
Like we should be teaching kids about Booker T. Washington and Frederick Douglass and Thomas
Salt.
Like that should all be a part of black history.
What they really want is the people's history of the United States, which was a propaganda
book that pushed the narrative that America is exclusively a vessel of oppression and
white supremacy.
That's what they want.
They really want these kids to be lied to.
They want black kids to hate their skin.
They want white kids to hate their skin.
they want white kids to hate their skin.
They want to cause this kind of division.
They say they want reconciliation.
Really, they want history to propagate the lie that white people have always been oppressors of black and brown people.
And that we still are not out from under those effects today.
Because this allows the government specifically progressives in power to have more power.
That's what the play is here.
And Florida is saying we're not going to be a part of that.
We're going to teach facts.
It is what it is.
The question should always be, is it true?
Not do I like this or does it sound good?
But is it true?
Is it true that some slaves, because of their own resilience, benefited from some of the skills that they gained while they were under the tyranny, the oppression of slavery?
Yes, that is true.
Done.
Done.
Oh, my goodness.
Okay.
I didn't know that we would be spending that much time on Jason Aldeen and on Barth.
but I had a lot to say about these things.
Hope you enjoyed it.
It's a longer episode, but a little bit more of a lighthearted episode,
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