Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 847 | Are Aliens Just Demons?

Episode Date: July 31, 2023

Today we're talking about last week's House Oversight subcommittee hearing on UFOs and the revelations that came from some witnesses, one of which was that "non-human remains" have been recovered. The witness, a former U.S. intelligence official, claimed he could not elaborate further, but also mentioned that he's "absolutely certain" the U.S. government is in possession of UFOs. We look at some reactions to the hearing, which mostly boil down to ... people not caring very much. We go over our theories on alien life and discuss whether the concept is compatible with the biblical truths we know. Then we take another look at Florida's new slavery curriculum, which many prominent Republicans have slammed for one particular line. We explain why these politicians are so incensed and why they're ultimately lying about what the curriculum actually says. We're also giving a full personal update on the pregnancy you won't want to miss! --- Timecodes: (00:59) Personal update (17:55) UFOs & aliens (32:00) Does the Bible allow for aliens? (45:22) Florida curriculum backlash --- Today's Sponsors: Carly Jean Los Angeles — use promo code 'ALLIEB' to save 25% off your first order at CarlyJeanLosAngeles.com! EveryLife — the only premium baby brand that is unapologetically pro-life. EveryLife offers high-performing, supremely soft diapers and wipes that protect and celebrate every precious life. Head to EveryLife.com and use promo code ALLIE10 to get 10% of your first order today! Constitution Wealth — align your values with your investments through your financial management. Go to ConstitutionWealth.com/ALLIE and schedule a FREE consultation! Jase Medical — get up to a year’s worth of many of your prescription medications delivered in advance. Go to JaseMedical.com today and use promo code “ALLIE”. --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 843 | Is 'Barbie' Secretly Conservative? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-843-is-barbie-secretly-conservative/id1359249098?i=1000622183204 Ep 698 | Aliens, Nephilim, Bigfoot & the Bible | Guest: Nate Henry & Luke Rodgers (Blurry Creatures) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-698-aliens-nephilim-bigfoot-the-bible-guest-nate/id1359249098?i=1000584006061 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.

We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. A former intelligence official testified last week in Congress that they have found UFOs and non-human remains with these UFOs. What? Is this true? Does it matter? Does anyone care?

Is it biblically possible for there to be? aliens. We'll get into all of that. Also, I'll give you a little personal update how things are going, how the pregnancy is gone, what I'm looking forward to in the coming weeks. And then to round us out, we are going to talk a little bit more about this Florida curriculum that people are so up in arms about on the right and the left. And again, to show you what is true and to give you the facts about it because it's so important to get this right. All right. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers go to good ranchers.com. Use Code Alley and check out that's good ranchers.com code Alley. Hey guys, welcome to relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone had a

wonderful weekend that you're ready for a great week. It is going to be, it's going to feel like, I think like 112 where I am this week. I'm pretty sure that it's actually physically going to get up to like 110 at some point this week. I'm a big whiner in the wintertime. Big. time whiner and in the fall. As soon as it gets like a little bit chilly, I'm like, nope, I want to go outside and sweat. I want it to feel like a suffocating blanket of heat as soon as I step out my door. And then as soon as it happens to me, as soon as it happens to me every year, I'm like, why? Why? Why do I tolerate this? Why don't I live in, I don't know, some kind of beautiful mountain in Utah. And so, but I really, I really try not to complain about the weather because I heard Elizabeth

Elliot say, like a few years ago. I shouldn't say it a few years ago, but I heard her say it a few years ago that like complaining about the weather is basically grumbling at God because who else is in charge of the weather except for him. So I really try not to do that. All I will say is that I don't think I as a human being and built for these kinds of extremes. I think that I am. I think that I am built for very mild 75 weather and also being as pregnant as I am right now, I have just like an incubator in me at all times. I am like perpetually warm. So anyway, for all of you in these southern states, in the desert states that are suffering as I am under such suppressive heat, I just wanted to express some empathy with you. That I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you.

And I know we think we're like, it's going to break. It's going to break at some point. You know what? Let's just acknowledge and just accept the fact, just be content with the fact that we have about three, three, four more months of this. You think it's going to break in September? It's not going to break in September.

You think it's going to break in October? It's probably not going to break in October. It's probably going to be Thanksgiving before it gets down into the 70s. So just accept that. And I'm just going to learn how. to be grateful in all circumstances, content in all circumstances. So you guys ask me for a personal update. That's part of my personal update. I'm sweating all of the time. But you guys, when I asked on Instagram, what do you want me to talk about? A lot of people said aliens. And so we're going to

talk about aliens, but you also asked me to just give a personal update because, as you well know, I am 36 weeks pregnant. Or maybe you didn't know how far along I was, but most of you know that I pregnant with our third child. We're so excited. We are keeping the gender a surprise. We don't know. We found out with our first two. Don't know with this one, which has been really, really fun. So for my personal update, I don't really have that much to say, except for, thank the Lord, it's been a healthy pregnancy. All three of my pregnancies have been thus far. Thank God, very uneventful pregnancies. I've never had any any, you. you know, any kind of incident or any scares or anything like that.

And I don't take that for granted. I am so incredibly grateful. I've actually felt better in a lot of ways in this pregnancy than I have in previous pregnancies. I did have a coffee aversion this pregnancy in my first trimester. Actually, for like the first half of my pregnancy, that I did not have my last two pregnancies. And I know some people, they don't drink coffee at all. You don't have to message me about that, about like being careful about your caffeine

intake and things like that. I am. I don't drink very much caffeine. I probably drink like half a cup to, I don't know, two thirds of a cup of coffee a day. And that's my caffeine intake. And so you don't have to worry about that. But I could not drink black coffee at all. I could only drink because, you know, when you have morning sickness, if you don't have caffeine, that can make your nausea worse. And so I still tried to get some form of caffeine. But like the only kind of coffee that I liked was ice, with heavy cream, with little vanilla in there, which I'm not saying is good for you. But just to give me something to help me feel like a functioning human. Actually, if you go back and you look at some of the episodes that I did in February,

that like the episodes with Ginger Voilo, I had one episode with Justin Haskins where internally I thought that I was going to die. I was so nauseous, felt so tired. my head hurt so much. And I really didn't have those symptoms in my first two. So that part was definitely harder, but the aches and pains in this pregnancy and the last half of this pregnancy have not been as difficult. So I'm praising God for that. First half was harder. Second half has been easier. I don't know if that's an indication of the gender one way or another. But yeah, so it has been a little bit different than my first two. And I have also, I've worked out. I've taken,

well, I've walked, but also I've done my, like my bar classes that I take during this pregnancy. And I really didn't work out at all in my first two pregnancies, maybe a little bit here and there, but not consistently. I don't work out every day, but I work out two to three times a week while pregnant. And then I walk as well. And so maybe that's helped with my aches and pains. I also see a chiropractor and I see a physical therapist. And so that stuff is helped. I've learned every pregnancy that I need. I think that women in general, but you just need more support when you're pregnant than you think. And there are so many things that you can do, exercises you can do, people you can go to to help mitigate some of the discomfort. Not everyone can, you know, go to a

chiropractor and physical therapist. But if you can, or there are a lot of things that you can do online, a lot of resources online that you can do, spinning babies is one of them to show you how to stretch the different movements that you can do to make sure that your body is nice and loose. And I do think that the exercise aspect, that that has really helped. So I encourage you, if you are wanting to get pregnant, if you are pregnant to exercise in some form. I don't think that now is the time to start CrossFit if you were not doing that before. But something low impact, I do. I've also heard that this whole idea that you shouldn't start working out while pregnant if you weren't working out before, that that's really a myth. That of course, you can start

healthy and you can start exercising. Again, probably not like the most intense form of exercise ever, but low impact stuff that is getting your body moving and getting your heart rate up as long because you can tolerate it, especially after that first trimester. I'm just speaking for my own personal experience. It's probably good. It's helped me feel a lot more energized. Like both pregnancies, you'll ask for the pregnancy update, for the personal update. So if it seems like I'm rambling, it's because I am. But this is what a personal update is like for me in my head. Like first two pregnancies, I needed like the big pregnancy pillow at night. It's, you know, like the giant C pillow that is like the whole body pillow just to keep myself comfortable.

probably starting at like 30 weeks. My hips and back hurt so much. I was in so much pain, like so early on, it felt like both pregnancies that sleeping was just terrible. Like my hips would hurt so much. They'd get so tired. I would flip over, but as you know, once your belly gets big, it's so hard to flip over at night. It's like an entire event. And, but this time I haven't had that at all. Thankfully, I still do have some aches and pains that I'm working through. I have some like tight muscles that are like a little painful. But for the most part, I think the exercise and all the other stuff that I've been doing has really helped. I've also been taking, ladies, you should be taking a magnesium supplement while you're pregnant in addition to all

the other stuff too. So anyway, I'm getting super close. I'm 36 weeks. Both my previous pregnancies went long or like what people would call long. I was induced with my first, not something that I would do again. It did not go well. My body was not ready at all. There was no medical reason for me to induce besides just being 40 weeks pregnant. Baby was fine. I was fine. But I did not know better. I did not know better. And so I got induced. When you're like zero zero, and if you don't know what that means, I don't need to get into the anatomical like specifics of that. But when you're zero, and your baby is high and there's no medical reason to be induced. Personally, just not from a doctor's perspective, personally, like that's not something I

would recommend to one of my friends. If I could go back and change that, I would. But that was like 40 weeks, six days. She probably would have gone to like 42 weeks or so. And then my second one, I did have, you know, spontaneous labor and that was 41 and one. So babies like to cook. My womb is very hospitable. And so I fully anticipate going to past 40 weeks, which is difficult.

It's if any of you have been pregnant at 40 weeks pregnant, every day after that is really tough. Not just because you're physically uncomfortable, but just the mental stamina that you have to have, not knowing if you're going to have your baby in two weeks or two hours. It's just tough. And so I'm, but I am anticipating that. That's just what I have in my head. and then if I go into labor sooner, then that's great. But I'm also trying not to, speaking of contentment with the weather,

also be content with the length of pregnancy because I don't take for granted that I have, if this is true, that I will have gone to and through all due dates for my children. And I know that not everyone gets to do that. People who have suffered from loss, people who have gone through very difficult preterm labors and had NICU stays, I know that there are women who are in the hospital as we speak right now at 30 weeks pregnant or sooner than that. And they would give anything to not be in labor at the moment. They would give anything to give birth at the due date rather than being in the hospital now

and going through the complications of having an early delivery and all of that. So I don't want to complain about going to 40 weeks or 41 weeks because not everyone gets to do that. And so I'm trying to have that like grateful mentality that, wow, Lord, thank you so much for allowing me to have this much time with babies in the womb. Now, I say that at 36 weeks. You can ask me again at 41 weeks if I am that cheery and that grateful about it. But I'm taking off maternity leave starting 38 weeks. So a couple weeks.

And as I've said before, we have many, many episodes that we have been saving up for you, that we have been working on for the past several months, and they are all going to come out while I'm on maternity leave. We have so many fascinating conversations. It's been really hard for me to keep those not published, unpublished, and not tell you about them because so many of them I know are going to be not just good, hopefully, but also controversial in some ways. Some of the conversations that we've had are on very controversial topics. And you're also going to be really encouraged by a lot of them. I think. think really educated on things that I hadn't thought about. Maybe you hadn't thought about before on a lot of them. And then we've got some fun Q&A, some serious, some lighthearted, all that good stuff. And so for 12 weeks, you will be getting new content. And so as much as you can listen to those, watch those, share those, that helps the show since we won't be talking about all of the relevant new stuff. But I'm super excited to have that break, have that three month break. It's going to be really great. I'm in the midst of nesting, which is a terrible thing to do when you're 36 weeks

because my house is chaos right now. Instead of actually organizing, I'm into like taking everything out stage before I figure out where it's all going to go, which is the most chaotic stage to begin. Again, not a great stage to engage in when you have two young children and you're 36 weeks pregnant, but alas, it's just, it's some kind of biological inclination that we all have. And I have It's satiated it at all the entire pregnancy, and now I'm into it, and it's just chaos. So we're going through a transition period in a lot of different ways in our family, all good stuff, but kind of overwhelming. And a lot of you guys ask me, like, how can we pray for you, which is so sweet.

Thank you so much to those of you who message me and ask me, how are you doing? How can I pray for you? I've just been asking friends to pray for peace and order, not just in our lives, because there's going to be a level of chaos going from two children to three children and all of that, everything that entails. But peace and order in our hearts, in our minds, in how we act and how we speak to each other, you know, in times of high stress, you and your spouse should remember that you're on the same team, not adversaries. And so just prayers for that for peace and for order in our lives, obviously for a safe and a smooth birth and all of that. And that. And so, just prayers for that.

And so anyway, thank you guys so much. That's my personal update. I'm sure that there's a lot more that I could share about life and all that good stuff. But honestly, this pregnancy has gone by so quickly. It's gone by so quickly. And being the third pregnancy, I'm not asking for like I'm not having some big baby shower or anything like that. People at this point, I'm like, really the only thing that you need is diapers. And that's just a recommendation I'll give to you new moms. You don't really need everything that you think that you need before the baby. baby comes, do not stress yourself out. If you don't have the nursery ready, if you don't have all the matching clothes, if the drawers aren't all organized by the time the baby comes, I understand that feels good. That's totally great if you got that. If you don't, that's okay too. Because all that baby needs for the first few weeks is you get you some gray and white onesies, some cheap stuff from Walmart, because you're probably going to throw them away anyway because they're going to get stained. Diapers, wipes, you're good to go, girl. You are good to go. I'll give you. I'll give you. more updates if you guys want it. If you have any specific questions or maybe I know a lot of

you guys have asked like tips for new moms, tips for pregnancy, things like that. I'm feeling almost too pro level on pregnancy since this is number three. Now I know those of you who have 10 kids are laughing at me, but I feel like I almost know what I'm doing now. So I'll try to give you some tips at some point if that's something that you guys are interested in. Hey, this is Steve Deast. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't

offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Okay, so if you've seen the discourse on Twitter, people are talking about aliens and UFOs. So now, I guess, we don't call them UFOs. We call them UAPs.

The language is always changing. Kind of like how it went from Indian to Native American to indigenous people. I'm sure it's going to change again at some point. We're all trying to keep up with the language changes. It's not UFO anymore. We've heard from extraterrestrials that that is extremely offensive. And so we have changed this UAP, unidentified aerial phenomena. It's an issue of, they say, bipartisan concern, according to NBC,

raise national security questions. Some also accuse the federal government of endeavoring to conceal key UFO-related information from the public, though they did not provide evidence to, to support those allegations. So right now, their congressional hearings or there were congressional hearings last week asking members of the intelligence community, U.S. intelligence community, what they know about these UFOs or UAPs. A David Grush, who is a former U.S. intelligence official, told the panel that he is absolutely certain that the federal government is in possession of UAPs. So this would be like,

Flying objects, we do not know where they come from. The federal government, I guess he says, has found these and is in possession of them. He led Defense Department efforts to analyze a report of UAP sightings and was informed of a multi-decade Pentagon program that endeavored to collect and reconstruct crashed UAPs. Now, that I don't necessarily have a hard time believing. I think that there's a lot that our government does that we do not know, that we will never know. that there could be flying objects or flying things that we're not completely sure what they are. Sure, I can see that being a possibility. Grush, who underscored that he is not personally, he has not personally spotted a UAP,

told the panel that he knows of multiple colleagues who are injured by UAPs. He also said he has interviewed individuals who have recovered non-human biologics from crashed UAP. So that's the headliner right there. Okay, we've got video of him in this congressional hearing saying that they have found non-human remains at these crash sites. If you believe we have crashed craft stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. Yeah. Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics?

Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. And was this documentary evidence, video, photos, eyewitness? How would that be determined? The specific documentation I would have to talk to you to Skiff about. Okay. Non-human remains. He can't fully talk about it. He doesn't, can't say what the documentation is. It is nice to see Nancy Mace showing up to the job. talking about what's actually on the table rather than what happened with her fiance that morning in bed like she did at the prayer breakfast last week, as I talked about on Instagram. Anyway, so non-human remains, he has not seen these, I guess, but there's some maybe documentation

that he won't even talk about. He was asked by Representative Eric Berluson, a Republican from Missouri to substantiate the crash UAP's claim. The former intelligence official said he could not divulge specific details once again claiming the information was too sensitive to share with the public. He did describe the nature of what he saw. I have to be very careful here, but what I personally witnessed myself and my wife was very disturbing. So non-human remains of the pilots of these UAPs, he says, were discovered. Then there was Ryan Graves at this congressional hearing. He's a former Navy pilot. He told the panel that military pilots do not feel adequately briefed on UAPs, which is that leaves them unprepared to respond to UAP encounters. All right, I could see that.

He claimed that commercial airline pilots have spotted UAPs too. It just seems like if it were this mainstream that we would hear about it more. I'm not sure. David Fravor, a former Navy commander, said he and three fellow military pilots spotted a white Tick-Tac shaped object in 2000. 2004. Okay, so tick-tac-shaped object. I'm guessing not tick-tac-sized objects, because that would have probably just been a tick-tac. In 2004, hovering below their jets in just above the Pacific Ocean, as he descended to inspect the sight and he claimed the unidentified aircraft, which he said bore no visible rotors, wings, or exhaust, begin to ascend and approach his fighter jet. He claimed that the UAP then vanished, only to reappear a few seconds later, but the this time it was spotted 60 miles away. A Fravor told the committee that the technology he and his team encountered defies logical explanation. The technology that we face is far superior to anything that we had Fravor claimed.

And there's nothing we can do about it. Nothing. Well, how do we know, I guess, I mean, how do we know that there's nothing that we can do about it? It's very strange. This is a very strange phenomenon. I'm not saying that I don't believe these people. I do think that they are strange anecdotes.

Why haven't we heard about this more? I mean, and if it's so mainstream, if like commercial pilots and military members, former intelligence officers have all seen this, why is it seen as this grand conspiracy theory? Why isn't it just something that's accepted as fact? And why isn't there more documentation of it? That would be my question. According to the Daily Wire, Susan Gow, Go, not sure how to pronounce her last name, spokesperson for the Department of Defense, insisted that its all-domain anomaly resolution office, which has been tasked with investigating UFOs, has not discovered any verifiable information to substantiate claims

that any programs regarding the possession or reverse engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently. Okay. So that really didn't have to do necessarily with aliens, except for the comet by the guy that there were non-human remains found with these UAPs. Now, non-human, that could mean a lot of things. guess. That could mean, maybe not a lot of things. I guess that's the only thing that it could mean, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it was some sort of alien. So I believe that there could be

unidentified flying objects. I think that they're from other countries and that there's some kind of spying devices. I wouldn't be surprised at all if China, Russia has this kind of capability and has for a long time. Now, it would be really embarrassing if we weren't able to understand that technology and match that technology ourselves, but that would be, I think, the logical explanation, unless there are people in the United States flying very sophisticated drones that somehow the U.S. intelligence community doesn't know about. The question is, does this really matter? Does the existence of these UFOs, UAPs, does the existence even of aliens, extraterrestrial life? Like, do people really care about that? Not really. According to,

NBC, people don't really seem to care. The news that the government may be in possession of non-human biological matter and UFOs was met with surprising apathy online. Surprising to whom? Who is that surprising to? So they give some examples of this, some tweets saying, basically, I don't care. I don't know if any of these people are notable, but they're just saying, look, I don't care. This is just a distraction. People posting memes of this kind of stuff. It's just not really that big of a deal. And look, I tend to agree with that. My question is, what am I supposed to do with this information? If there were aliens, which I'll get into whether or not I even think that's a theological possibility, if there are UAPs, what do I need to know about that? I don't need to know anything. They're not. not going to call on me to give them intelligence on this or tell them what to do. There are so many threats to our lives every day. Turbulence now is normal. Like, tumult is normal. Unpredictability is now very predictable. Like, we already have the

threat of nuclear war. We're already being run by a cacistocracy. Like, we already have a million things to deal with from just like the stresses of our everyday lives to rising crime to war to corruption all this stuff they're already plaguing our lives and disturbing our peace this is just one more thing it's just one more thing that could kill us that could disturb us that could conquer us i just don't know what i'm supposed to do with that information am i supposed to be more worried that I was before because I'm already not very happy about the state of the world. Would it be the worst thing if aliens came down and said, honestly, I didn't know that this could be messed up as badly as it is. And I think we're just going to have to take over.

That's not the worst outcome, except for I don't believe in aliens. And I'll get to that in a second. And other people online seem to agree. I saw that Michael, Null said, how come China and Russia aren't holding urgent hearings on UFOs? And I thought that was an interesting question. And so I was looking into it and I saw this tweet that has a lot of engagement from Dr. Simon Gaudic. I don't know who that is. He said, look at this map showing where UFOs have been spotted all over the world. Why is the U.S. lighting up like a Christmas tree? So basically what this map shows and we can put it up on YouTube is it's only the U.S. and like England that has ever spotted a UFO. I mean, as far as we know, maybe it's because the documentation,

the reporting mechanisms aren't as good in these other countries, but even looking at like Australia and some of these other like European countries, like it's most people in the world don't say that they have ever seen a UFO. I think it's a mostly American phenomenon because of Hollywood, because of folklore, because of our distrusting. government because our government is so freaking weird. Like I think that this is mostly an American thing. If this were really a phenomenon everywhere, then I think that we would probably see more reports than we currently do. But it's always like, no, we definitely saw Bigfoot outside of Branson. Like, it's always something like that with the conspiracy theories. Now, again, I'm not saying

that it's impossible for there to be UAPs, but this whole idea of extraterrestrial life. I think we're just like obsessed with that possibility here. I think I personally think it's silly. I don't believe in the whole non-human remain story. I simply don't. And again, I don't even think whether someone has a worldview or not or whether or not someone knows their worldview and what they think about human beings and other creatures. I just don't think that most people care about aliens. I don't think that most people think it's that big a video. So let me get into like, is it possible for aliens to be real from a biblical perspective. Okay. So is it possible for there to be aliens? Well, it depends on what you mean by aliens. Like what do you mean? What do you mean by that? Is it just extraterrestrial

life? Well, of course, we believe in angels and demons. But do you believe in some like non-human, non-animal form somewhere out there that could live on another planet that has the ability to rationalize, that has a moral compass. If that's what you mean by alien, then the answer is no. I don't believe in aliens because I don't see any room in scripture for some kind of creature that is not described in the first couple chapters of Genesis that is made in the image of God, but is not human. Because if you have the capacity to rationalize in reason and to have a moral will, to have some kind of moral compass that can distinguish between right and wrong,

that is us being made in the image of God. And yet you are somehow not human. I do not see a biblical category for that. I also just think it's extremely unlikely that in all of these many years, I mean, most of the people who believe in aliens also believe that the Earth has been around for billions and billions of years. I have a hard time believing there hasn't been some more concrete documentation of interactions between those creatures and us. And as much as we have explored space, we haven't interacted with those beings, those creatures. We haven't seen more about them that they're just isolated to these very obscure and coincidentally non-documented cases of interactions. I just find it very unlikely. But really, I think that if you just go to the creation account and you think about like the arc of redemption that God has laid out for us from Genesis to

revelation and that still is ongoing today, like you would have to fit these non-human but apparently rational and civilization building beings into that plan of redemption. And I just don't think we see that. I think we see that man and man alone is made in God's image that there is a distinction between human beings and between animals and that there isn't some kind of in-between category. Now, demons exist, angels exist. Obviously, throughout the Bible, there is documented interaction between those groups of beings. And so is it possible that interactions that people have had have been like an interaction with some kind of demon? an interaction with some kind of angel.

Possibly. I'm not sure about that or if they're just entirely made up. Here's what Got Questions. As I love GotQuestions.org. I think that they do a really good and thorough biblical job of answering these kind of questions. And so they basically say that same thing. And so they talk about the creation account, but then they also talk about the curse and redemption. And it says this, if all of creation now suffers under the curse, any life apart from

the earth would also suffer. If for the sake of argument, moral beings do exist on other planets, then they also suffer. And if not now, then someday they will surely suffer when everything passes away with a great noise and elements melt with fervent heat. If they had never sinned, then God would be unjust and punishing them. But if they had sin, then Christ would only, could only die once, then they are left in their sin, which would also be contrary to the character of God. This leaves us with an unsolvable paradox unless, of course, there are no moral beings outside of the earth. And then what about non-moral or non-sintient life forms on other planets? Could algae or even dogs and cats be present on an unknown planet? Presumably so.

scientifically, I'm not sure about cats and dogs and other planets. Theologically, probably so, because Jesus didn't die for the souls of animals because animals don't have souls. That's right. Animals, your pets, don't go to heaven or hell. That's another story. In conclusion, the Bible gives us no reason to believe that there is life elsewhere in the universe. In fact, the Bible gives us several key reasons why there cannot be. Yes, there are many strange and unexplainable things that take place. There's no reason, though, to attribute these phenomena to aliens. If there's a discernible cause to these supposed events, it is likely to be spiritual and more specifically demonic in origin. And yes, I would agree with that, that it's more likely to be

demonic than angelic in origin. Yeah. So anyway, so that's basically what I think about it. I don't think that aliens like gray people, green people are real. Like in the age of the iPhone, If interactions really happened, then someone would take a TikTok of it. Like it wouldn't be that it's so mysterious and so, you know, and so obscure and so hidden at this point. I just don't believe that. And obviously, I just don't believe that they're real. I don't think that there's a biblical category for them or a scientific category, but I don't think there's a biblical category for any kind of sentient, moral, reasoning, rational,

that is not human. And that's how we feel about a lot of these conspiracy theories, by the way, that deal with some kind of non-human, non-animal creature. Okay, you're going to have to come up with another category and I need to know how that fits into the redemption arc. Okay, Bree, what do you think about, what do you think about aliens? Do you think that they are legit? You know, here's the thing.

I so wish that I did because I feel like it would be. I feel like the conspiracies are so much fun, but I just genuinely don't. I don't think that they're real. Would you care if someone like, yeah, if someone showed you a picture and was like, we found out that they do live on Mars. Theological qualms aside. I wouldn't care unless they were trying to like, unless they were trying to come here, I guess.

We're trying to. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I don't know. I also, I really think a. a lot of these like encounters that people have are demonic and spiritual in nature. And there's even something called the alien abduction theory where in the end times like the explanation for why people like disappear or why terrible things are happening or the Antichrist himself is like

in the form of an alien. And that's what they tell us. So I don't know the specifics of that. But I thought that was interesting. That is interesting. Like the rapture or just? I think that's one theory. Another is that like they're extraterrestrial beings. That's what they're going to be called. But they're really like just spiritual beings. Yeah. That, you know, come and wreak havoc here. So. Yeah. I'm just like not really. I think I'm not really interested in, in the conversation. Just because I know for a fact that they're not real. But also, I don't know. If I don't know, again, like, what am I supposed to do? What does it mean to me? What am I supposed to do with that information?

I do agree with that. I do agree with that. And you kind of just, there's so many questions before I am made to care, you know? Yeah. Are they hostile? Do they want to kill me? Or does it matter? Yeah.

I mean, there are already, like, I'm much more scared of robots. Yeah. Which are real. Yeah. And powerful. I agree. videos that I've seen. And so, like, and the fact, okay, so here's the thing, is that in order to believe in aliens

and that the aliens are responsible for the UAPs and UFOs, you do have to believe that they're rational creatures because they've created this insane technology that is far beyond anything that we've created. And apparently, their, like, intellect, their ability, because animals can't create. They can't create like that. There's no creature that can create. you have to be a rational, sentient being in order to create something like a flying saucer or whatever it is.

And so, again, for the Christian, you have to ask, okay, well, what category of creature is that then? If it's rational, it's sentient, it can create. If it's created that, it's probably created civilization and some kind of hierarchy and order and all of that. Where does that fall in to the fall? Where does that fall into redemption? And I don't think we see even at all the biblical possibility that there is like,

a parallel universe with a parallel savior and all that, then you're just getting into craziness. Right. And also just the practicality of it, you're so right. Why is no one just filmed something on an iPhone? Yeah. There's a family that saw aliens in their backyard, non-humans in their backyard and a UFO. And they've just gone silent. No one took a video. No one took a photo. They just said it happened. And now they've just like kind of, they're not talking about it anymore. Yeah. You know, sometimes I see aircraft in the sky that I'm like, that looks weird. Yeah. Yeah, sure. But then I just don't really think about it anymore. Yeah. So I don't know, but I remember seeing signs in sixth grade. Did you see signs? Oh, it was so scary. Just the one shot of the alien.

Oh, yeah. I know. I wasn't allowed to see it, but I went to one of my friends' houses and still friends with her today. It was the house that you would go to if you wanted to watch movies that your parents wouldn't let you watch. because her parents would. We all had one. And, yeah, we watched signs and I regretted it. And I felt so bad I told my parents that I watched it because I was having nightmares. I was so scared. Yeah. I know that gave me nightmares too.

Yeah. But it's okay, little Allie. They're not real. But that's probably why we have, America has all these UFO sightings. Totally. It's because of that. It's because we have Hollywood. Yeah, for sure.

and we're on everyone's on a spiritual journey they want something that's like higher than them but something that's not going to tell them what to do you know well and people put things in terms that they know and i think in our media we talk about this a lot more than certain other well i guess non-western countries do yeah and so i'm like of course there are more people who like report UFO sightings because that's what they would call something like weird that they might categorizes that whereas in another country they they wouldn't call it that so we have a lot of drugs in our country too yeah also that we have a lot of drugs so that can't be discounted um so anyway yeah so i was reading some of your theory though some people do believe that the aliens are part of the

end times but again i would say that that is demonic it's funny how many people believe in aliens who probably think the idea of god is like so stupid you know who those people people on Twitter who like respond to Christians being like, oh, you're Sky Daddy. How could you believe that? He would never believe in angels and demons but are like, I don't know. Maybe aliens are, maybe there is a parallel universe. Maybe the world did start from nothing billions of years ago. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I cannot let this story go. I can't let it go. So I just, I want to quickly go through it because I don't want this to be a mega long

episode, but I just want to not rehash, but put a fine point on this Florida curriculum story. Last week, we talked about Kamala Harris and a bunch of other progressives in the media hating on Florida for their new set of social studies standards, which is going to be available to lots of students, but including middle school students. And part of that social studies curriculum includes curriculum about slavery, also the Holocaust, a bunch of different things. but in particular about slavery. And there are all kinds of subjects, all kinds of lessons that the students are required to learn with these new social studies requirements when it comes to slavery, how slavery started.

It's history not just in America, but throughout the world, how these African slaves were sold by Africans to America and two Westerners. and how they're all different kinds of people have been enslaved throughout history, the horrors specifically of American slavery and the impact of black Americans on American history, particularly Florida history. So all kinds of, I think, really important information. And if anyone reads the 216 page document, which is available online, summarizing the social studies curriculum, you will see that this appears to be, at least from the summary that we have extremely objective and extremely thorough,

looking at all different parts of slavery and black history, the Reconstruction era, Jim Crow, and doesn't mince words about the injustice that this was, the importance of abolition, civil rights, and all of that. And so there is one line, though, that has become very controversial, one line in this 216-page document, which has been like a lightning rod. it has taken over headlines. Kamala Harris did an emergency speech on it, which we played last week on the episode. And this one line says this, examine the various duties in trades performed by slaves, e.g. Agricultural, work, painting, carpentry, tailoring, domestic service, blacksmithing

transportation. Clarification one on this particular lesson. Instruction includes how slaves develop skills, which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit. So what are people saying everyone is saying not everyone, but most people on the left, including Kamala Harris, are saying that, oh, this is saying slavery was beneficial. Oh, this is trying to justify slavery. This is talking about how we should be grateful for slavery. This is saying that actually white supremacy is okay and people should be thankful for slavery. And slavery was actually great. Like that's how people are running with this. With this one single line saying that some slaves developed skills which benefited them, which,

they used for their personal benefit. From that, people are deducing that this curriculum encourages people to think of chattel slavery in a positive light. And as I said last week, that is completely ridiculous. That is not at all what the line said. That is not at all what the line implies. And again, if you look at it in context, there is no way that you could deduce that. I have to say, I would have to conclude, like, if you're trying to say that, if you're trying to say that this line justifies or puts a silver lining in slavery that either you are a bad actor with bad intentions or you're ignorant. You really just don't know. Now, that's not to say you can't have a differing legitimate opinion, but I have not yet heard a differing legitimate

opinion that explains why logically this line is wrong and bad and justify slavery. Every single person that opposes this curriculum based on this line has something in common. And that is that they're adding things that are not there. They say things that are simply not in the curriculum. And let me give you some examples for that. So there are several prominent black Republicans who have come out against this curriculum, who have felt the need for some reason to issue a statement about it. Now, let me tell you something that these black Republicans have in common. It's not that they're black Republicans, that's not, I think, the most important part, is that they've all endorsed Donald Trump. All of these people that I'm about to list who have come out attacking Ron DeSantis

specifically for this curriculum, calling it racist, have also all endorsed Donald Trump. Make of that what you will. So this is Wesley Hunt, a Republican from Texas. He says, as the direct descendant of a slave, I have a hard time understanding Governor DeSantis' position that transferable skills learned in bondage are somehow a net benefit. That's what he says. And now John James says this. I really liked John James. Man, he says, Ron DeSantis,

nothing about that 400 years of evil was a net benefit. He puts in quotes, net benefit to my ancestors. My brother in Christ, if you find yourself in a deep hole, put the shovel down. You are now so far. from the party of Lincoln that your ed board is rewriting history and you're personally attacking

conservatives like Tim Scott and Byron Donald's on the topic of slavery. You've gone too far. Stop. No, you stop. You're lying. You're lying. Are you intentionally lying? Because you're just a sketchy politician like the rest of them and you convinced us that you're this strong, honest, a man of integrity, this man of Christ that so many of us conservatives really support it? Or is it because you don't know? Either way, this is. is an unacceptable tweet. You should absolutely delete it and then you should apologize. But you won't because you endorse Donald Trump. So it's not a coincidence to me that both John James and Wesley Hunt, who have endorsed Donald Trump, use the same phrase net benefit. Net benefit. Oh,

these skills were not, did not make slavery a net benefit. No one said net benefit. No one said it. DeSantis didn't say it. The curriculum doesn't say it. Like that would be, that would be one thing. If this curriculum said that slavery was a net benefit because of the skills learned, that would be a problem. That's saying there was more good than bad when it came to slavery because of these skills that were learned by these slaves. That's not what anyone said. But apparently the talking points went out to some of these black Republicans and who endorsed Donald Trump and they decided to all use the same language. Or at least two of them decided to use the same language. and John James had the audacity to put net benefit in quotes when that is not a quotation.

So where did that come from? What email did you get? What text did you get? What phone call did you get? Who gave that talking point, that phrase net benefit, which just happens to appear in both of these tweets of people who are for Donald Trump and I guess against Ron DeSantis? There is nothing in this curriculum whatsoever that implies. that slavery was a net benefit or a blessing or that there was a silver lining to it. Instead, what it clearly implies, if you read the entire context,

is that slaves, through their own resilience and industriousness, used some of the skills that they learned while slaves to then benefit themselves and their families, especially once freed. And I'm going to give you some examples of that in just a second. But it's not just them. it's also Byron Donald's who is another Republican representative

he said what's crazy to me is I express support for the vast majority of the Oh he's from Florida the new African American history standards and happen to oppose one sentence that seemed to dignify the skills gained by slaves as a result

of their enslavement Anyone who can't accurately interpret what I said is disingenuous and is desperately attempting to score political points No I think that you are doing that just another reason why I'm proud to have been endorsed or to have endorsed President Donald J. Trump. Okay, well, you just kind of give it away. You just kind of give it away.

And so because he criticized, oh, he said this. I missed this what he actually said. The new African American standards in Florida are good, robust, and accurate. That being said, the attempt to feature the personal benefits of slavery is wrong. It needs to be adjusted. that obviously wasn't the goal. And I have faith that Florida DOE will correct this, which is not a disrespectful critique.

He is totally allowed to have that critique. He can totally put it out there. But again, that's not what the curriculum says. He has a right to have that opinion. That's probably like the most respectable opposition that I've seen to it. But I still think that it is wrong. And then I went back and forth with someone named Jvon Price, who used to work for Byron Donald's and who was saying the same thing.

Oh, the personal benefit thing. That's so bad. That's so wrong. We absolutely shouldn't have that. And I, he responded to something that I said, I think, about the first guy that I talked about. And he said, so I guess Byron Donald's Jack Brewer, Tim Scott, John James, Wesley Hunt, myself, and others are all wrong because you know our history better than we do. Got it. Just to make, just had to make sure, conserve Milan, that's me.

That's the hill you're willing to die on. And I said, yes, you're all wrong. I don't care the color of your skin. You're wrong to say that the curriculum implies personal benefit. It doesn't. It doesn't. That's not what it says. I know what you guys are doing.

You guys are trying to go after Ron DeSantis, which, okay, you can't, but don't lie. Don't lie. You know that this is the exact language, by the way, almost the exact language from the AP Advanced Placement African History Requirements. that says this. In addition to agricultural work, enslaved people learned specialized trades and worked as painters, carpenters, tailors, musicians, and healers in the north and south. Once free, it actually says American Americans, which is a typo, African Americans use these skills to provide for themselves and others. It's the same thing. It's the same exact thing. And these are

the exact standards that, by the way, just a few months ago back in February, the liberal media, they were all saying, oh my gosh, why won't Florida just adopt the AP standards? Because Florida rejected the AP standards for their own standards, which they've now come up with. And outlets like Politico said, what's really in the AP African American Studies class that DeSantis rejected? A close look at the course reveals just the sort of interdisciplinary rigor students need to succeed. So Politico, New York Times, all of these other liberal outlets were so sad that Florida was a adopting the AP standards, which say the exact same thing. So yes, I think that the people that are opposing this are either being manipulative or they just don't know because I haven't heard a good

argument about why this line is wrong, why this line is bad. And a lot of people have presented what Dr. Allen, who Dr. William Allen, he is one of the members who served on Florida's African American history standards workers. group, a lot of people have quoted him and what he said. Because he's done several interviews saying, look, we never said that slavery was good. We never said that it's something that we should be grateful for. Obviously, it was abject evil. Obviously, it was wickedness. Obviously, it was oppression. Obviously, it is beyond even our comprehension how human beings could do that to another human being, how these people were subjugated and stolen and trampled on. Of course. No one ever said that it wasn't awful.

Here's what he said. According to Fox News, he said, it was never said that slavery was beneficial to Africans. What was said, and anyone who reads this will see this with clarity, is the case that Africans proved resourceful, resilient, and adaptive, and were able to develop skills and aptitudes, which served to their benefit both while enslaved and after enslavement. He says, he's black himself. He says, my great-grandfather is someone who came from the islands and who was enslaved here and whose own resourcefulness, resilience, and adaptiveness was certainly instrumental in producing for his family, his descendants, the ability to prosper here in this country.

Francis Presley Rice, who co-founded a nonprofit organization to raise awareness about the roles African Americans have played in America's history. She was also a part of this work group. She said this. The intent of this particular benchmark clarification is to show that some slaves developed highly specialized trades from which they benefited. This is factual and well documented. Florida students deserve to learn how slaves took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves in the community of African descendants. This should be so non-controversial.

And in a world where we actually cared about the truth and we weren't so hypersensitive slash political and partisan and turned everything into a partisan debate, everything about left versus right, everything about Donald Trump versus DeSantis, we would all be able to see this. That in context, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this line, that it is factually true. And that's the only question. And I've seen people say this. Sure, it might be true, but why should we say it? Because it's true. Because it's true. What are you talking about? Yes, we should look at slaves who developed skills and then despite the oppression that they suffer, the injustice that they suffered, use those skills to benefit themselves and their family. Wow. That

all to the glory of God, as evil as slavery was, how amazing is it that these individuals were so industrious and so hardworking, overcame obstacles that none of us, black or white, today, can ever imagine. Like, yes, of course students should learn that. Like, surely you're not falling into, on the right, this idea of perpetual victimhood, right? Like, you're not falling into this CRT-shaped world in which everything is split in these nice, easy, black and white, categories of oppressor versus oppressed and oppressor versus victim, right? I saw this professing Christians say to me, you can't bring up the story of Joseph and being enslaved and how God actually used that horrible evil to then benefit Israel. You can't use that because Joseph spoke

to his own experience of enslavers and the oppressors didn't get to write that form. There's no one today who oppressed, who oppressed slaves. Okay, there was no oppressor that wrote this curriculum, all right? And so again, if you're falling into that mentality, whether you know it or not, that is a progressive left-wing race-baiting mentality. Okay, I have not heard yet the good case, the logical case, the factual case for why this line should be changed. And in fact, just to close this out, I'm going to tell you three or three very quick stories about slaves who did exactly what this curriculum is talking about. To exemplify why this curriculum is so important or why this part of the curriculum I think is

so important is absolutely factual and why people are absolutely wrong to condemn it as racist or white supremacist or gaslighting about slavery or anything absolutely ridiculous like that. Okay, so let me just give you, let me give you three examples of I think people that would probably be included in this part of the curriculum. And you tell me if you think that we should be learning about this, if students should should be learning about these people. The first was William Ellison, who was a very unique story. I'm not saying that this is the majority of slaves. It's a very unique story. He was a slave who was a printed at age 10 to a cotton gin maker. He was hired out by his master to this cotton gin maker.

And his master, of course, being his master, required Ellison to send him a portion, but not all of his earnings. So with his leftover earnings, what he had saved up, he bought his freedom from his master. He then became a very, very successful cotton gin maker. He also learned how to blacksmith. He became a successful blacksmither. He owned land in South Carolina. At the time of his death, William Ellison owned 63 slaves. He was also able to pass down property, possessions, wealth to his posterity, to his children. He was able to buy the freedom of his children using the money that he earned by being a cotton gin maker, which is a skill that he earned while enslaved. So tell me whether or not it is accurate to say that he benefited from skills that he

learned as a slave. Does that mean his slavery was okay or justified or a blessing in any way? No. That's not to say that it was good. That is to say, wow, this was an industrious, smart, entrepreneurial, hardworking person that overcame outside. standing odds to provide for himself and his family. Wow, that's not controversial, but that's exactly what they're talking about in this curriculum. And then we have, of course, Frederick Douglass, Frederick Douglass, born into slavery, separated from his mother as an infant, which was an atrocious practice that was very common during slavery, separated from his grandparents later. If you read his autobiography, or if you read his descriptions of his upbringing,

they're gut-wrenching, like poverty, suffering, torture, like beyond what any of us can even understand. But he was taught the alphabet by his master's wife in Baltimore at the age of 12, Sophia Old. Now she eventually realized, oh, shouldn't have done that. This is incompatible with keeping him basically a dumb slave, tried to prevent him from reading. But at that point, like she had already lit the fire. He already knew the alphabet, so he was able to teach himself how to read right. He obviously became a prolific speaker, a prolific writer, and was a dominant leader of previously enslaved black people in America, had tremendous influence and still does today. I mean, loved the Constitution, loved education, advocated for education, and for honoring the

Constitution among African Americans, just an amazing person. But even though his master decided later to not allow him to learn how to read, he learned a skill during slavery, which later went to benefit him, even though his slavery was oppressive and wrong. And then you have Phyllis Wheatley. She's extremely controversial if you read what she wrote. I mean, even including this poem, I would guess, is not allowed by a lot of these people criticizing this curriculum. She was kidnapped from Africa. She was sold to a wealthy family in Boston. The children of her master taught her to read and write. She quickly proved herself to be an incredible poet. It was rare because the Wheatley family that owned her, strongly encouraged her education, helped her seek opportunities to become a published poet.

And here is one of her poems. This is Phyllis Wheatley, not me. Okay, this is on being brought from Africa to America. She says this, slave. She says, twas mercy. brought me from my pagan land, taught my benighted soul to understand that there is a God, and there's a savior too. Once I redemption neither sought nor knew, some view our sable race with scornful eye, their color is a diabolic dye. Remember Christians, Negroes, black as cane, may be refined and join the angelic train. So there is something there for those that were rightly considered white supremac.

who hated her race saying, hey, we're also made in the image of God. And God can save our souls too. And then she also says that she's actually, like, it was a merciful thing for her to be taken. She says from her pagan land to America and learning the gospel. Whoa, are you even allowed to read a poem like that nowadays? I think a lot of these critics would say no. But did she gain a skill while enslaved that later went on to benefit her? Yes or no?

Yes or no? despite the oppression and the wrongness of her enslavement. And then, of course, I guess very controversial to all of these people is up from slavery by Booker T. Washington, his autobiography. He was born in slavery. Slaves emancipated when he was a child. He worked in the minds, taught himself to read, became a dominant leader among black Americans and emancipated slaves. In his book, he talks about the harsh, oppressive realities of slavery. Slaves were treated like dogs, if that. But he gives a roadmap and inspiration for resilience and self-sufficiency through education and letting go of bitterness. He says this, when we rid ourselves of prejudice and racial feeling and look facts in the face, we must acknowledge that. Notwithstanding the cruelty and moral wrong of slavery, the 10 million Negroes inhabiting this country, who themselves

or whose ancestors went through the school of American slavery, are in a stronger and more hopeful condition. Materially, intellectually, morally, and religiously, then is true of an equal number of black people in any other portion of the globe. Whoa. That almost sounds like he's saying there was a benefit. I have begun everything, he says, this is a different quote, with the idea that I could succeed.

And I never had much patience with the multitudes of people who are always ready to explain why one cannot succeed. I mean, that is just as relevant today. as it was back then. There are a lot of people empower a lot of politicians who make a lot of money and get a lot of votes by explaining why certain classes of people absolutely cannot succeed no matter how hard they try. And so you can't tell heroic stories of industriousness, overcoming odds, overcoming obstacles of people who were literally slaves at one point because that kind of discounts the argument that today there are too many obstacles and too much oppression for black people to overcome and become successful. I mean, that's part of what this is. I don't think the people on the right criticizing this curriculum, think that they have that motivation, but of course it has the same end result. So you can take it up, not with me, who I know, all of these people are just going to say, oh, you're racist, whatever, I don't care. You can take it up with Booker T. Washington. You can take it up with Philis Wheatley. You can take it up with

Dr. Douglas. You can take it up with Dr. Allen. You can take it up with the black scholars that helped write this curriculum. You can take it up with them. You can take it up with history. You can take it up with facts. You can take it up with logic. You can take it up from God's word with God's word that clearly says that even through wickedness, which chattel slavery is, even through oppression, which chattel slavery is, even through evil, abject evil, suffering beyond compare in so many cases. Just like beyond what we can even imagine, even in that, God can work things together

for good. Doesn't justify it. Doesn't make it right. Doesn't add a silver lining. It is what it is. So you can take it up with all those people. You can take it up with the Bible. If you have a problem with this line in the curriculum,

you're going to have to build a better case than any that I've seen online thus far. Oh, that's been bothering me. It's been bothering me so much. So many, like, I think, well-meaning, otherwise, like, very smart, conservative Christians falling for this, this, I don't even know. Stupidity, propaganda, whatever you want to call it. All right. That was a long episode,

but I had to. There's going to be a lot that I have to say because I'm like cramming it everything I want to say into like two weeks of episodes now at this point. So these are probably going to be some longer episodes. We've got an amazing interview coming up tomorrow. So don't miss out on that. And then a lot of other things that we have to say for the next two weeks, send me ideas for what you want us to talk about. If you've got an idea that you want me to comment on. All right, that's all we have time for today. We will see you back here tomorrow. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we

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