Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 867 | Should We Baptize Babies? | Q&A

Episode Date: September 5, 2023

Today we're answering a few of your questions: How do we navigate political disagreements in marriage, and what does the Bible say about lending people money? We also discuss infant baptism and overco...ming church hurt and spiritual trauma and explain why, yes, it's sometimes okay to make fun of Hollywood. --- Timecodes: (00:44) How do I navigate political disagreements in marriage? (07:05) What does the Bible say about loaning people money? (12:03) Infant baptism? (20:28) Can you give us any hints about your next book? (21:20) Why is it okay to make fun of Hollywood? (22:59) Have you ever experiences church hurt / spiritual trauma? --- Today's Sponsors: Good Ranchers — get $30 OFF your box today at GoodRanchers.com – make sure to use code 'ALLIE' when you subscribe. You'll also lock in your price for two full years with a subscription to Good Ranchers! Patriot Mobile — go to PatriotMobile.com/ALLIE or call 878-PATRIOT and use promo code 'ALLIE' to get free activation! Constitution Wealth — align your values with your investments through your financial management. Go to ConstitutionWealth.com/ALLIE and schedule a FREE consultation! --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 798 | America’s Sacrificing Orphans on the Altar of Transgenderism | Guests: Jessica Bates & Christiana Kiefer https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-798-americas-sacrificing-orphans-on-the-altar/id1359249098?i=1000611489190 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us.
Starting point is 00:00:39 What do I think about infant baptism? How do you deal with church, hurt, or trauma? Also, why is it okay to make fun of celebrities in Hollywood? Or is it? We've got all of this and more on this episode of Relatable, which is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com. Use code Allie at checkout. That's good ranchers.com. Code All right. Welcome to Relatable. Hope everyone's having a wonderful week so far. All right. I'm going to answer some of the questions that you guys have. Nice variety. First question is, how do I navigate
Starting point is 00:01:24 political disagreements in marriage? Man, I really feel for this. I think that this would be really, really hard. I'm sure that there are a lot of couples who have this. And especially, or if you don't have it in marriage, you probably have it with someone in your family, with in-laws. I will say, my husband and I are very fortunate that his family and my family, like we are, everyone is conservative. Maybe we've got like a rogue person somewhere out there who likes Joe Biden, but we're all totally on the same page, at least on the big stuff. Maybe there are some disagreements. And so And I'm sure that my husband and I might have some disagreements on some things, but on the big things that really matter, we are in total alignment. And I think that is, that kind of answers the question mostly is that, okay, on the big things, I'm talking about the things that are explicitly in the Bible when it comes to gender, when it comes to marriage and family raising.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And when it comes to like what justice actually is versus social justice, progressive race. racial justice. I also think that the Bible is very clear on this on abortion. Like on these big issues, because they are explicitly biblical, I'm not saying that there can be no disagreement whatsoever in what the policies should look like, but do you agree on what God's word says about them? Like, do you agree on what right and wrong is? Those are the things that I would work out, that I would work out maybe through thoughtful and considerate and careful, respectful conversation. Now, I would try to have these conversations at a time where you're not already in an argument when you're not mad at each other and when emotions are not high, I would do your very best to keep emotions out of it. Now, if you do disagree
Starting point is 00:03:10 on these big things like abortion, if they think, you know, abortion's not that big of a deal. I think it should be fine through X, you know, time in pregnancy. And obviously, because of your biblical convictions, you don't believe that. Look, that could be, it could be a few things for your spouse. It could be an ignorance issue. They have no idea what an abortion is. It could be that they just haven't thought about it. It could be a heart issue. It could be that they don't understand what God's word says about the sacredness of life inside the womb and that they actually need to be taught those things.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I think you can encourage your husband in that. I think that if he's willing to have a conversation about what the Bible says about those things, that you can absolutely engage in that. It could also be a matter of prayer, though, if every time you bring it up, it becomes like this sore spot, this spot of contention and like things get really weird and it's just like driving you apart, then it could be a prayer thing. It could be something that you talk about with, like, close friends, maybe mentors. Maybe if you have like a really godly friend who has a really godly husband, who has friends with your husband, if he could kind of have the conversation
Starting point is 00:04:11 with him. Now, when it comes to the not so explicitly biblical, the not so fundamental, foundational things, like maybe you disagree on some forms of economic policy or some forms of health care policy or things like that. I mean, eventually all of these things kind of end up going back to the fundamentals. It depends on your belief in the relationship between government and God, government and the church. All of that kind of ends up being very basic and foundational. But a lot of these things are complicated and gray and nuanced and aren't necessarily indicative of someone's sanctification or justification on those things. Like if you can have a spirited conversation about them and ask curious questions, ooh, why do you think that? That's so
Starting point is 00:04:55 I've never thought about that before, then that could be fun. That could be a good way to, like, allow you guys to think through things. If he's willing to read some of the things that you have read that convinced you of your position and maybe if you're willing to read some of the things that he's read or listened to that convinced him of his position, maybe that would be a fun thing for you to do. If, again, he shuts down every time you talk about this kind of thing, again, that could be a heart issue for sure. But that's probably something more to like pray through and to let go. The most important thing is that you agree on the gospel, you agree on the authority of God's word, you agree on the fundamental explicitly biblical things, and then the other
Starting point is 00:05:35 things will be worked out over time. Some things are just not worth ever debating and like disagreeing on if it causes a lot of emotion and a lot of dissent between you two. Unity and marriage. Of course, unity in the truth, but unity and marriage under the banner of truth is really, really important. So that's what I would say. I don't know if that's the most practical advice, but that's kind of what I think, at least, about the principles of these kinds of disagreements in marriage. Hey, this is Steve Day.
Starting point is 00:06:05 If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day
Starting point is 00:06:18 and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. we ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this T-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I hope you'll join us. What does the Bible say about loaning people money? So it says a couple things. If you look back at God's law giving to Israel, Exodus 22, 25. you lend money to any of my people with you who is poor. You shall not be like a money lender to him, and you shall not exact interest from him. So you can be paid back. You should be paid back. I think it's right to pay someone back. It's good and just and truthful to pay someone back when you've been loaned money. But God is against this exacting of interest from someone.
Starting point is 00:07:25 He sees it, I think, as a form of oppression and manipulation when it comes to these kinds of transactions. Now, obviously, we're not under the law of ancient Israel, but I think that the principle stands that if you lend money out to a poor person, especially if, or if you lend money out to a friend who is in need, just asking them to pay you back, and yes, expecting them to pay you back, I think that's fine without exacting interest so that they are totally oppressed under the debt that they pay you. I think that principle still stands today that doing that, that oppressing them in that way would be wrong. A Deuteronomy 2319, you shall not charge interest on loans to your brother, interest on money,
Starting point is 00:08:08 interest on food, interest on anything that is lent for interest. Now, here's something interesting, Deuteronomy 2320. You may charge a foreigner interest, but you may not charge your brother interest. The Lord your God may bless you and all that you undertake in the land that you are entering to take possession of it. Now we would have to go into that chapter and look at all the context to really like exeget and understand exactly what is meant by that. But I think that that's interesting. I mean, that's something that opposes a lot of like what the progressive say about who God is and how he would
Starting point is 00:08:39 never create any kind of delineation between like one nation and another nation. There are no different laws for foreigners. I mean, that's not true. There are many different laws, by the way, for foreigners in the Old Testament than there were for the people of Israel, for the nation of Israel. And then if you look at God's indictment of Israel in the book of Ezekiel. One of the charges leveled against them is that the people of Israel are lending at interest and then taking a profit. And so God sees that as evil. Ezekiel 188, the righteous person is not supposed to lend at interest or make any profit and he withholds his hand from injustice. He executes true justice between man and man. But those who are evil, those who are disobedient to the Lord
Starting point is 00:09:28 or lending out an interest in taking a profit. And so we see that juxtaposition between the righteous person who takes no interest or profit when he is lending to his brother and then the one who is just trying to make a profit when he is lending money to the poor. God doesn't like that. Doesn't like you taking advantage of other people. God doesn't like you taking advantage of the poor. He doesn't like those kind of underhanded, greedy, deceitful ways. It's an abomination to him. And then we also see, though, that the borrower,
Starting point is 00:09:58 is a slave to the lender. The rich rules over the poor and the borrower is the slave of the lender. That's Proverbs 22.7. You probably hear, for example, Dave Ramsey say that a lot. So I think it's important to be very careful when we are looking to take out loans. Not saying that always asking for money, always asking for a loan is wrong or sinful. I mean, sometimes you're in a situation where you absolutely have to, but we should be much more careful and diligent than we are now. I mean, that includes student loans, that includes
Starting point is 00:10:32 car loans, that includes every kind of loan. Again, not all loans are necessarily bad, especially when you have the ability and the full intention to pay them back. But taking out a loan that you cannot pay back, that is going to put you in a form of slavery. And so God is very wise. He's very gracious to kind of give us these guides. Of course, when you have an economy that's built on making it more difficult to own things and to only rent and to own. only be a slave to a lender. I mean, we can talk about the entire setup of like the agenda of the world economic forum to make sure that no one really owns anything, that you are constantly in debt to the government or in debt to the lender of these things. I mean, there's an entire
Starting point is 00:11:15 like moral framework at their anti-God framework there that really ownership, that private property, the personal property, all of these things are very good. And we should be working toward them when we can. Again, lend out. Don't take an interest with your brother. There's probably some debate about how that applies today. And then also be careful about the loans that you take out yourself. All right. Next question. Infant baptism. Nice and controversial. So I'm Baptist. I've been Baptist my whole life, my family, on my dad's side of the family, has been baptized for literally 300 years. So we do not practice infant baptism. We don't believe that infant baptism is biblical. Don't get mad at me. Someone asks me what I think about this. So I'm going to tell you. I know. I already know.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I'm going to get the messages, though. I'm going to get the messages in their reviews. It's just inevitable, especially from my Catholic fans, who I really appreciate. Someone's going to tell me this is like anti-Catholic hate. But someone asks me what I think about infant baptism. And as much as I I love my Presbyterian friends and align with them on so many things have learned from many Presbyterians, Presbyterian theologians, people who practice Pato baptism or infant baptism, like have learned so much from people like R.C. Sproul. But I don't believe that infant baptism is biblical simply because we do not see it in the Bible. It's really as simple as that. We see believers baptism in the Bible, and we do not see infant baptism.
Starting point is 00:12:56 There's just no support. I understand Catholic and the Presbyterian argument that they kind of draw the concept of some kind of support for infant baptism from the Bible, but it's certainly not explicitly there. We see what baptism is described as. Obviously in the Great Commission, Matthew 28, when Jesus sends us out and says, you know, all authority in heaven on earth has been given unto me. Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. That making of a disciple is a precursor.
Starting point is 00:13:33 The baptism is a symbol, an outward symbol of our faith. It's obviously very important. I'm not saying that it's just this, you know, thing that we should take flippantly or doesn't have any significance. It's extremely significant. You know, I did a debate with Candace Owens' husband about Catholicism versus Protestantism. And one of the things that he couldn't get past when it came to Protestantism was the significance of baptism. And of course, Catholics and Protestants believe different things about baptism. And they believe that baptism is necessary for salvation. And they practice infant baptism. And he kind of said, you know, if baptism is just a symbol, then why even do it? If it's just,
Starting point is 00:14:16 an outward reflection of our inward faith, which is what we Baptist believe, then why even do it? But of course, just because something is a symbol, and by the way, I think George is awesome and very much respect him and had a lot of fun in that conversation. I'm thankful to be a part of it. But as I said there, just because something is a symbol doesn't mean that it's not significant. Why do we wear wedding rings? If we take it off, that doesn't mean that we're not married anymore. If we put a wedding ring on, that doesn't mean that we're married, but it symbolizes something really important.
Starting point is 00:14:44 It is an outward reflection to the world. if someone refuses to put on a wedding ring after they get married, there are some questions about that, right? Maybe they have a good reason, but like there are some questions about someone or who never wants to wear it publicly. There are some questions, usually about the faithfulness of that person. So symbols do matter. This is an outward showing of inward regeneration, but it does not have salvific power.
Starting point is 00:15:11 That is what the Baptist believes. That's really what Protestants believe in general, but particularly Baptist. So Acts 2.38, and Peter said to them, repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Repent and be baptized. So again, we see, just like Jesus in Matthew 28, that baptism is followed by repentance. Romans 6, 3 through 4. Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
Starting point is 00:15:42 we were buried therefore with him by baptism into death in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the father we too might walk in newness of life so we see how important baptism is it's not that baptists i mean it's part of our name it's not that we think that baptism is an important we just don't believe it is what saves you because we read in places like ephesians two for example you are saved by grace through faith so this idea that infant baptism is necessary for consecration of of children that it's It's kind of a reflection of the Old Testament circumcision. I just don't see that. I don't see that reflected in scripture. Now, if it's a form of baby dedication, like we baptists do, we kind of dedicate our children and just kind of go up and say, this is our child. And the church agrees to help you raise your child in the Lord, help them walk in a way. That's right.
Starting point is 00:16:35 So if like sprinkled baptism is kind of just a tradition, just a form of that, then I guess that's one thing. Again, I don't think that we see that reflected necessarily in scripture. So we also, and I wanted to see like this specifically what Got Questions said about this. You know, I love GotQuestions.org. And I wanted to see specifically what they said about this argument, that it is a reflection of the Old Testament symbol of circumcision. And that's why we have to baptize infants today. And this is what Got Questions.org says. In this view, just his circumcision joined a Hebrew to the Abrahamic and Mosaic covenant. So baptism joined a person to the new covenant of salvation through Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:17:19 This view is unbiblical. The New Testament nowhere describes baptism as the new covenant replacement for old covenant circumcision. The New Testament nowhere describes baptism as a sign of the new covenant. It is faith in Jesus Christ that enables a person to enjoy the blessings of the new covenant. As we read in 1 Corinthians 1125, 2 Corinthians 3, 6, Hebrews 915. So yeah, that's where I stand on that. Again, just no biblical support that I see for the concept of infant baptism. It's believers baptism.
Starting point is 00:17:52 That's what we see in every single spot. In the Bible, even when it says like baptize your household or the entire household was baptized, some people use that as, oh, that's a sign that even infants were baptized. Well, we don't have any evidence of that. We don't have any evidence that people were baptized. without professing faith in Jesus Christ. So, yeah, we believe in baptism by submersion as a reflection of the faith in your heart that you have professed in Christ.
Starting point is 00:18:22 All right. Can I give you hints about my next book? Yes. I think at this point, I have talked about it a few times as I'm recording this. I think I've talked about it maybe a couple times. but it comes out next year and it is about how faux toxic kind of superficial empathy leads, particularly women to be on the wrong side of issues, be on the wrong side of gender issues, immigration issues, all of these issues where our feelings are kind of weaponized to make us be progressive
Starting point is 00:19:10 and it kind of hinders us from actually seeing the truth of any given situation when it comes to social racial justice. We're told in order to be empathetic, we have to be progressive, but I lay out the reasons why this just isn't true and why it's actually very dangerous and unbiblical. Why is it okay to make fun of Hollywood, someone says. This is probably in reference to a video that we did a few months ago where we made fun of outfits at the Met Gala. Okay, first of all, the Met Gala is ridiculous. The Matt Gala is supposed to be absurd. They're supposed to wear really weird things. And I think I said that Pedro Pascal looks like the stepson of Satan or something. True. True. That doesn't mean that he is not a handsome person or whatever, that he's not made in the
Starting point is 00:19:58 image of God. But it's supposed to be absurd. We're supposed to be laughing at their outfits. I think a lot of the people or a lot of the things that these celebrities wear when they go to these award ceremonies are for the attention, are to get people to talk about it. And yeah, I do think it's different, pointing out the funny outfits of, you know, millionaires walking on red carpets and all of their self-importance in a lot of cases. I do think it's different doing that versus, like, picking out the random person at Walmart and making fun of them because they can't afford nice clothes. Like, there is a difference in that. It's not like these people, like we're making fun of some immutable characteristic. We are making light of some of the silly out-of-touch choices
Starting point is 00:20:39 that they make that are so different than what the regular person does. Now, yeah, Of course, I disagree in making fun of things that they can't help themselves or trying to demean them as people. But, I mean, making light of some of the ridiculous outfits that they knowingly choose at the MetGala and places like that, I think it adds some lightness to the podcast. We don't do that very often, but it's kind of fun when we do. So that would be my reason for that. Take it or leave it.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Have you experienced church hurt, spiritual trauma? how did you overcome it? So I wouldn't say that I have experienced spiritual trauma. Now, have my feelings been hurt by people on the church? Yeah. Have I not gotten what the church should have given in a particular season of life? Yes. Like there are churches that we've went to when my husband and I moved a few years ago. We've been married a couple years. We, like the biggest thing that we wanted, we were living in a new area where we didn't know very many people. We want a Christian community. And we really wanted married Christian friends in our same stage of life. That's really what we felt like we needed most. And so we went to a Bible preaching church and that was very well known.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And we wanted to get into a small group. Well, it wasn't that easy to get into a small group. This was a bigger church. Apparently, these small groups were in high demand. You could only join every few months. And every few months, they would have this process where you would go into the auditorium after church, they would talk to you about small groups, and then you would go into this other huge room where all of the available small groups in the area, their leaders would be there, and you would have to wait in these long lines to talk to the leaders of the small group that you would potentially join to see if it was right for you. But there was no guarantee that you would be let into these small groups. And there may not be any small groups in your, close to your
Starting point is 00:22:36 area. It was all about availability. And if you connected with the small group leaders, there weren't nearly enough small groups for the demand of people wanting to be in one. And like, okay, so we did this for, I think, a year. It was like every few months, okay, we're going to try again this time. And there was always something. Maybe it was less than, maybe it was less than a year. But we definitely tried more than one time to go through this process. And it was like, oh, the one near you isn't open or, you know, they're not here
Starting point is 00:23:06 because they're not, they're too big. They're not accepting new people. Or I don't know. There was always some reason. There was always some hurdle that was beyond our control that, like, stopped us from getting involved. And I was so annoyed by this. And I did.
Starting point is 00:23:20 We had like kind of a confrontation. I emailed these people, ended up talking to them on the phone and said, look, you know what? I'm glad that I'm an established believer because if I weren't, this would turn me away from the church. All we want is to have Christian friends. All we want is Christian community. And you make this so difficult.
Starting point is 00:23:38 You don't even allow there to be a big enough window. consistently for young married people to join. Shouldn't you want young married people that could then, you know, extend generations into your church? Shouldn't you make it as easy as possible? We looked for ways even before, okay, if we can't join a small group, or there are different ways to get involved. And it was like this church was so full and so like, I guess, well served that it was very hard, not just for us, but for a lot of people in our stage to ever really plug in.
Starting point is 00:24:07 You need better mechanisms than that. I'm not saying that the church is perfect. or that any church is perfect. And when churches are big, they go through growth pains and all of that. But this is not one of those cases. The church had been big and well established for a long time. They just didn't have any good mechanisms in place. Oh, I remember what happened.
Starting point is 00:24:23 We had like finally gone through the process. This was the last time. And we were like, okay, we finally, like, we got into a small group and we, like, showed up. You also have to go through this, like, introductory thing before you actually go to your first small group and we showed up. They were like, oh, we don't have your name tags. We forgot to assign you to, like, a table. or whatever. I think that's when we were like, yeah, we're heading out. And then we ended up at a
Starting point is 00:24:45 smaller church that was really, really easy to get involved in. And so, yeah, you know, churches have their issues. I don't have any, like, hard feelings. I don't have any bitterness against that, but I do think it should be easy, easy to get involved and to have community. Because this is, like, something that I tell people, too, when they're going back to church for the first time, in a long time, or they're going to church for the first time. I say, go to your local church. ask someone for help, get plugged into a Bible study. I say those things with the faith and the hope that the church that they show up at will actually be available to them. Like if I had been a non-believer or someone struggling in my faith and I said, I really need a Bible study. I really
Starting point is 00:25:27 need a group of Christian women to help me through this. And they said, okay, wait six months and we'll see if we have room for you. No, I'm sorry. That's not what the church should be. So anyway, all that to say, have I experienced, quote unquote, church hurt, yes. And there's far worse than what I just described. There are people who have had sexual abuse. There are people who have dealt with real betrayal. There are people who have had pastors who have turned into false teachers, who have been charlatans, who have had secret lives behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And so there's much more, like way deeper and worse church hurt, quote unquote, than what I just described. So that's very. I understand, but all of us at some point have been disappointed in a church because the church is made up of people and people are fallible and people are sinful. There's no perfect institution on earth, even an institution that is a Christian institution because the people within it still sin. And so that's just kind of a part of the deal.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And so we did, I mean, there was some bitterness and I think on forgiveness on my part after that experience. But you move on to a church, you realize, wow, this church isn't perfect either. and then you kind of have to adjust your mentality and realize, wow, okay, these churches don't exist, one for perfection. They don't exist to meet all of my needs at all the times. It doesn't mean that that church didn't really make, you know, big mistakes and didn't need to change because it did. But you have to kind of reorient yourself and say, I am here for the church. I am here to worship. I am here to give my spiritual gifts for the building up of the body of Christ, whatever that
Starting point is 00:27:16 may be, it's not just to serve me. It's not just about how I feel. It's not just about having perfect worship and the most dynamic pastor and the most mission opportunities and the most volunteer opportunities. And one of those areas, the church is going to fall short. You have to prioritize. I prioritize biblical preaching. Nees to be sound biblical preaching. Do not waver on those big issues. And then we also prioritize community. And then the other things still really matter missions, volunteer opportunities, you know, all of that. But those were the two things for us. We found a church like that. And then we've cultivated like opportunities for involvement and things like that. And at kind of a smaller church, you can do that. It's easier to do that.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So that's what I would say. And don't, like, church hurt, I will say, is not the ultimate reason why someone doesn't go back to church. It's not the ultimate reason. It might be one reason. And it might be a legitimate reason. And your feelings and your feelings and your hurt and your betrayal may be absolutely valid. At the end of the day, you are not going to church. People don't go to church because of faithlessness. People don't go to church at the end of the day because they fear man more than they fear God. And we don't trust that it is important for us to meet with our local church, the church being the bride of Christ, because ultimately we don't want to. we don't want to face the pain, we don't want to be rejected again, whatever it is,
Starting point is 00:28:47 but at the end of the day, we are placing our feelings over obedience to God. I absolutely think being a part, tithing to, being an active member in a local church is part of obedience to God. I'm not saying that if you go through a period without going to church that you're not saved, I think all of us have probably done that at some point. Our salvation is dependent upon that? But is it absolutely important? is it a matter of obedience? Yes. And so, and ask for God's grace. Ask for his help. And I would, it's like,
Starting point is 00:29:20 when you have experienced betrayal or you have experienced what's called church trauma or hurt, like run to God, run to Christ, run to the cross, not away from these things. Go deeper into God's word. Because people do. A lot of people suck. Okay. And a lot of people are untrustworthy. A lot of people are going to hurt us. And it hurts worse. Absolutely. When it's a church leader, it hurts worse when it's someone that you have entrusted your heart to. It hurts worse when someone is supposed to have spiritual authority over you. But no matter how much you've been betrayed or how much you've been hurt by people who claim the name of Jesus, like Jesus will never hurt you, he'll never betray you, he'll never fail you, he'll never reject you. You're never too much
Starting point is 00:30:09 for him. You're never not enough for him because if he saved you, he's made you a new creation. He's given you his righteousness that makes you acceptable to God and you are forever loved because of that. Like Jesus is better and Jesus is more and going to church and worshiping him, even though you can worship him anywhere, but worshiping him with fellow believers in the body of Christ is absolutely worth trying to heal from any past trauma that you've had. All right. all we've got time for today. We will be back here tomorrow. Hey guys, if you love this podcast, please leave us a five-star review wherever you listen on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify. And if you haven't yet, please subscribe to our YouTube
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