Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 874 | The Truth & Beauty of Transgenderism | Guest: Kyle Mann

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

Today we're joined by Kyle Mann, editor in chief at the Babylon Bee, to dive headfirst into the gender galaxy that’s explored in "The Babylon Bee Guide to Gender." We start off with the Babylon Bee...'s explanation of gender and how science is actually incredibly offensive. We look at Kyle's journey from being a two-gender conformist to embracing the smorgasbord of gender choices (stay tuned to see if he finishes the interview as a man!). We also discuss the delicate art of raising "woke theybies" (they/them babies, of course), including advice on how to indoctrinate your child with Disney’s famous gender ideology and how to punish your child for the heinous crime of misgendering you. We'll also touch on the dazzling spectacle of drag shows and how more kids should be attending them, the importance of neopronouns, and the rarely discussed but incredibly important "wing dysphoria" community. As we unravel the beauty of gender ideology, you'll come to realize that it's all about you, you, and you, because only your happiness and comfort matter! --- Timecodes: (02:30) The Babylon Bee explanation of gender (05:37) Science is offensive (09:03) Kyle's process of picking a gender (12:27) Raising woke theybies (19:56) Kyle's marriage norms (22:30) Attracting other genders (26:13) Tater tot sexuality (29:00) Toxic dating (31:38) Lizzo (34:40) Drag shows (37:49) Beep/boop pronouns (42:19) Pregnant men (44:00) Wing dysphoria --- Today's Sponsors: Naturally It's Clean — visit https://naturallyitsclean.com/allie and use promo code "ALLIE" to receive 15% off your order. If you are an Amazon shopper you can visit https://amzn.to/3IyjFUJ, but the promo code discount is only valid on their direct website at www.naturallyitsclean.com/Allie. Carly Jean Los Angeles — use promo code 'RELATABLE' (new code!) to save 20% off your first order at CarlyJeanLosAngeles.com! Jase Medical — get up to a year’s worth of many of your prescription medications delivered in advance. Go to JaseMedical.com today and use promo code “ALLIE”. PublicSq — download the PublicSq app from the App Store or Google Play, create a free account, and begin your search for freedom-loving businesses! --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.
Starting point is 00:00:19 We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Kyle Mann is the editor-in-chief of the Babylon Bee, the best fake news website in existence. And today we are talking about their new book, the Babylon Bee Guide to Gender, the Comprehensive Handbook to Men, Women, and Millions of New Genders that we just made up. Guys, this was a really fun conversation, and I didn't know it was going to go this way, but it just did. And you will hear very quickly what I mean by that.
Starting point is 00:01:08 This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Rangers. Go to Good Rangers.com. Use Code Alley to check out. That's Good Ranchers.com, code Alley. Kyle Mann, editor-in-chief of the Babylon Bee. Thanks so much for being here. Yeah, thanks for having me. Okay, so you have just written a book or you have been part of writing the book, The Babylon B Guide to Gender, the Comprehensive Handbook to Men, Women, and Millions of New Genders that we just made up. I'm very appreciative for this comprehensive guide handbook because I have a hard time keeping up with all of the different pronouns and all of the different identities.
Starting point is 00:01:56 but you, I guess, through lots of travel and extensive research, have discovered all of the different identities that a person can have and you've put them into this book, right? That's absolutely right, you know. We took one for the team and stared into the abyss of gender theory so that you guys wouldn't have to. And we want to be thanked for our service, and you can thank us for our service by purchasing 20 copies.
Starting point is 00:02:28 of the book. And yeah, it's a, it's pretty insane. But we, yeah, we looked at all the different genders that have been made up. And then we made up a bunch of our own because, you know, why not? It's a fun thing to do. And you can, you can do it yourself. You can do it at home. Just a fun activity to do, you know, with the kids or whatever. So. Yes. I appreciate that. I appreciate that you all did include at least like the OG genders. I mean, they're boring, but they, I mean, they do exist. I think we have to kind of, like begrudgingly acknowledged that there are men and there are women, there are boys and there are girls. But it's a little more nuance than people may realize. So can you define for us how the
Starting point is 00:03:09 Babylon B explains like what a man is or what a woman is? Well, that's a very offensive question that you would even ask me. So I'm just, I want to put that out there just to start that it's a little, a little offensive. It's kind of a far right talking point. But I think, you know, a man is whatever you want to be. And a woman also is whatever you want it to be, just like all of the other gender. So, but man, you know, man and woman, yes, 50 years ago, people thought those were the only two. So we do kind of go back and look at like this is the traditional concept of a man. But we do preface that by saying this is all hate speech.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Right. But, you know, a man would be a person who mows the lawn and, you know, can drive. And then a woman does not do those things. But that's, again, that is going back to the 1950s kind of stereotype of there being two different genders. So we do go back and look at the original two in the dark times before. very upstanding people that never did anything wrong invented gender theory. Right. And kind of just like debunked everything that for thousands and thousands of years people
Starting point is 00:04:36 thought that we knew. Because I think like the rudimentary just like, you know, very crass, almost barbaric understanding of gender was like, I mean, chromosomes or you thought that, okay, when a baby was born, you would just be able to look and observe and say, this is a boy or this is a I mean, it's almost embarrassing to say that some people at some point thought that. But like in the last five years, we've actually evolved past what everyone thought for thousands and thousands of years, right? Is that an accurate description of what's going on? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it does make you, it does make you ashamed to even be part of the human
Starting point is 00:05:19 race when you realize decades ago or even, you know, three or four years ago, people thought that you could look at a baby and say, boy or girl, you know. So it does make you, it does make you a little shame, but you're right. We have progressed past that and we have evolved past that because progress is always good. And as, you know, there was violence 50 years ago. There was bad stuff that happened in the world. And now you can, yeah, you just know intuitively like those things are behind us. So progress always goes in a good direction and never in any society have things progress in a bad direction.
Starting point is 00:06:03 So new, what I'm trying to say is new is good, old is bad. Yeah. That's how we know what's moral and right with gender. Yeah. And, you know, I just think it's so, it's so basic. And I don't know, kind of boring when you. you think about it, that some people bring up things like science or XX and XY or like anatomy or things like this. I mean, when I'm thinking about this, I'm just like honestly, like,
Starting point is 00:06:34 why is that stuff even relevant, you know? I mean, when it comes when it comes to how you feel and when it comes to like you said progress and when it comes to advances and things like that, I just don't understand why physical reality is even brought into the conversation. It just doesn't really seem all that interesting to me, you know? Well, reality and facts are well-known tools of the far right. Right. So that is, that's one reason you have to be really careful when you're dealing in the realm of objective reality, chromosomes, biology. I mean, in Florida, you look at what Ron DeSantis is doing right now. And he, he has biology textbooks in the classrooms, you know, And you think about, wow, wow, like kids are being taught biology.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Right. Like what a fascist, what a fascist regime down there. I live in California, you know, where we've progressed past that and we've banned biology. Yeah. But it is scary to think about. It's scary to think about the younger generation in these far right strongholds and enclaves throughout the nation that are being taught things like facts and logic. Hey, this is Steve Day.
Starting point is 00:07:56 If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I am very thankful. Like when I think of, okay, like, what state do I want to look to for morality and just for compassion and virtue and all that? I do think of California first. Specifically, like the Bay Area, usually. It's just a place that I like to visit. I walk around like at night a lot just because I just love the feeling of the city because they've just done so many good things there. And they've really led the way in understanding that, as you said, gender really is just something that you feel. That's like the point that we've
Starting point is 00:09:16 gotten to in our advancement of understanding the human identity. And so you have a chapter in this book of picking your gender. Now I understand, of course, you're presenting as people can see, you've got a beard and you're wearing a gray shirt. I don't think that you're wearing makeup. I mean, I don't want to assume anything. But I understand that you have, you've been going through the process of like, of picking a gender too.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Is that right? Well, it's, it's a process, but it's, you know, it's one of those things where, like, the journey is the destination or the real gender is just the friends we made
Starting point is 00:09:51 along the way. Like you don't, you never arrive there. Yeah. You don't, like, it's so boring, right? If you're at a point where you're like, yes, I have found my gender and this is what I am. Right. Like, what, okay, well, what are you going to do with your life now?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Like, go get a job or like, it's stupid. So that's why, that's why for me personally, gender is a process where that's, that's all the fun, you know, is constantly reinventing yourself every day, every hour, every minute. You never want your coworkers, if you have a job, you know, or your people in your commune or whatever, to just be able to look at you and go, oh, yeah, he's a man or woman or whatever it is, you know, because at that point, it's like, it just robs, it robs all the fun out of that process of discovery. So for me, it's like, I started this interview as a man, but will I finish it as a man? Yeah, and that's just what we don't know. And like you said, it really is all about that, like second by second, constantly just like making things about you, making things about me and making sure that everyone else is made to feel really uncomfortable and inconvenienced to service my affirmation. And I know you're a parent, your dad, you've got kids. What's the discipline in your house if your kids make the mistake of just calling you like, dad?
Starting point is 00:11:19 Oh, yeah. Yeah, kids misgendering you. I mean, that is, that's one of the worst things. That's one of the worst things that can happen. That's one of the worst things that can happen in a household, obviously. Like you're trying to train your children up in the way that they should go. And then they misgender you. And you're like, what? Like, it's a very, it's a very, very triggering experience for me personally, you know. So, At that point, we, you know, we won't feed them. We'll lock them in the room, that kind of stuff. We will ban them from watching the content that they like, you know, like the young Turks. We'll make sure that they're not allowed to, they're not allowed to watch the latest Amy Schumer comedy special. You know, it's kind of a carter stick type thing. And we don't believe in spanking, obviously. But we do have kind of brutal punishments in the way of depriving them of those things that they like so much.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah. Wow. Getting rid of Amy Schumer comedy specials. I'm sure that the mistake of misgendering doesn't happen again after that. Now, you do have a chapter in here on raising woke they bees. which I mean, I appreciated so much as we're recording this. I'm pregnant. And so this was just like so instrumental for me in understanding how to raise a child that,
Starting point is 00:13:06 you know, just based on what we see gives no indication of being male or female. Just to be totally fluid and decide for themselves, not too early, but probably like six months or so, is when they should probably come to the knowledge of like what their gender. identity is. So I want to set this child up on the right path. Tell other parents who are thinking in the same kind of, you know, empathetic ways, how they do that. Yeah. Well, I mean, congratulations. I didn't want to assume, you know, that you identified as a birthing person. Yeah. But that's great. You know, we're glad that there's going to be another, another woke baby in the world to spread the message of gender. identity out there and become an activist and hopefully you get them out there on the front
Starting point is 00:13:54 lines fighting you know you can join a baby chapter of Antifa that's always great you know get them learning the you know some some dads play catch with their kids but that's obviously like again that's that hateful far right stuff you know you need to teach them how to throw them on some cocktails and and learn that motion early because a lot you know let's be honest Antifa they burn stuff down, but there's not a lot of upper body strength there sometimes. So you really need to start them learning that, learning that motion early. But yeah, honestly, it's full, it's total immersion for babies. Like right, like right now even, you know, you need to get those little devices where you can
Starting point is 00:14:40 play stuff in the womb, you know, and you need Disney Plus, constant Disney plus immersion right now, even. And then as soon as they come out immediately, Disney Plus, Disney Plus, Netflix, you know, you want to show them the Transformers episode where they're talking about pronouns. You want to talk about, you want to show them the Disney Plus show with the baby dinosaurs, with the two gay dinosaurs who have to adopt. You want that kind of content out there because that's what, like really, that's what entertainment is all about, is brainwashing. And that's what we want in our shows in entertainment. We don't want to, we don't want to be entertained or like have some princess saved by a hero and like this is in 1937 like we
Starting point is 00:15:27 want we want um snow white and the seven unhoused persons from portland and that's like that's how you get that's how you get kids on our side it's all through the entertainment and the messaging yeah you know that's like one of my biggest frustrations i think with kids is that they want to be entertained like they just want to laugh and they just want to laugh and they just want something that's good and they tend to get bored when you try to give them a political message. I just don't know how to overcome that. Like, why do you think kids when they're two, three years old just don't get it? Like, why do you think that they, they just want to have fun and just want to laugh? I couldn't think of anything worse than just being entertained by a high
Starting point is 00:16:25 quality show or a movie with good acting. When I, if I'm paying money, if I'm paying money, you know, to go to the theater or to like get a streaming service. I want constant like political messaging to tell me that I'm bad and that I could be better. But I can't get my kids to get on board with that. So like, I don't know. What do I do? Yeah. I mean, that's that's hard coded heteronormative patriarchal hierarchy that's been internalized by your child through the evils of our society.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah. So that's something that that you need to really. beat out of them. I mean, you know, I'm not saying beat your kids, but, you know. But like one thing we'll do is we'll take our babies and we'll put them on a blanket. And so if we have a baby that's been assigned male at birth, we'll put them on a blanket. And then on one side, we'll have a toy truck. And on the other side, we'll have a Barbie.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And if the boy reaches for the truck, you know, whap, little wap on the hand. And then we do that until he reaches for the Barbie. And that's one way that you can kind of reinforce these, the, you know, new non-normative standards that we're trying to, that we're trying to implement in our kids. But yeah, you know, like my kid, my seven-year-old the other day was watching Bluey and it's like this family that has, get this, a dad and a mom. And then just, that's it.
Starting point is 00:17:59 like just a normal it's like a normal family you know and that's like what you know so we had to yeah it was it was really disturbing it was really disturbing when when we saw them so that's another like wow no you know you have to you have to do that all the way through the teen years really and you have to you have to be really consistent in that too just to make sure on that there is none of that you know like heteronormativity like you said like springing up in them or something like that, which I'm sure I don't know like how you navigate it because you are married to I mean, I don't know. I don't know what your partner identifies as, but just maybe from an outsider looking in, like they might think that you're a heteronormative family, like a man and a
Starting point is 00:18:47 woman, but I'm sure you have to constantly show people, no, that's not true. Like we are totally, totally different than just like a man and a woman married. Yeah, it's a real problem. And that's why, like, one thing that we'll do to kind of push against those gender roles, even though, yeah, we did make the mistake of just getting in a normal heteronormative marriage, one thing that I'll do is I'll have my wife, I have my wife mode along. You know, I'll have my wife. Parallel Park or, you know, like things like that.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Or do you, like, maybe stop talking and. say, no, I'm fine? Is that kind of what you're going for? Well, with, you know, with the, with the parking thing, it's like you do want to draw lines because you don't want to endanger anybody's, anybody's lives. It's obviously a line that we wouldn't, we wouldn't cross. But like with the other stuff, yeah, absolutely. Like, I'll just kind of, you know, sit on the couch and, and she'll say, oh, what do you want for dinner?
Starting point is 00:19:49 And I'll say, nothing, I'm fine. Or I'll say, I don't know. and then I'll let her suggest a bunch of stuff. And then I just go, eh, I don't know. And then, and then, you know, over and over again until we start to. And that's one way that we try to push against those gender norms, you know, is you just, you have to, you have to look at like, what would a normal person do?
Starting point is 00:20:15 And then just do the opposite. So, yeah, I try to show that I'm a feminist, you know, I am a strong male feminist by letting me. my wife through all of the difficult stuff all the time. That's really, I mean, that's really brave of you. That's really brave because there's not very many people who would fight against the
Starting point is 00:20:33 patriarchy by saying, like, no, honey, I want you to fix the car. I want you to go in the attic and fix the leak. But like, you are willing to make your wife do that. That's,
Starting point is 00:20:47 I mean, that's amazing. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I really don't get recognized for that enough. Yeah, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Well, I just wanted to affirm you in that. Now, you do have a segment on attracting other genders. I would love to hear more about that. Well, one thing that's a little strange, you know, is that we have this hyper-sexualized new gender theory where it's like kind of gender, sex, and attraction are the most important. about you. And at the same time, most of the followers of it aren't very, I'm trying to say this in a
Starting point is 00:21:34 sensitive way, you know, aren't very attractive or good looking or they're kind of, it's a struggle, you know, for us woke people is that for some reason people find us mean and off-putting as we're like screaming and throwing bricks at them. So I don't, so what we're trying to do in that chapter of the Babylon, the Guide to Gender is really help out our fellow woke persons of unspecified gender and give them some tools that they can use to go out there and attract people. So, and again, a lot of the dating advice out there is heteronormative. You know, it's like if you're a man, here's how you get a woman. If you're a woman, here's how you get a man.
Starting point is 00:22:19 And that's really hurtful. You know, so we try to do, we try to be more like we'll give, we'll give, we'll, give specific dating advice that you don't get in other books, you know? If you identify as a tater top, how do you attract somebody who's a Mandalorian sexual? Yeah. You're not going to get that in most dating books. You don't get that in, I Kiss dating goodbye. Um, you know, Joshua Harris is a bigot and doesn't, um, and didn't cover that in his, well, he's realized that too. I just want to give a shout out to Joshua Harris is that he has since realized. that, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:56 He's progressed. He has since realized that the idea of, oh, just dating one person to get married of the opposite sex is obviously absolutely disgusting and vile and backwards. So I just wanted to make sure that we acknowledge that.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I apologize. I didn't, I apologize. I didn't mean to slander, to slander Joshua Harris because obviously he has progressed and we know that, again, the new is always better than the old. So you progress. He's obviously,
Starting point is 00:23:24 obviously smarter and more moral and stuff, and more courageous now than he was back when he, when he supported that heteronormative stuff. But those, you know, but really he did a lot of damage by putting out this idea that you should be a virgin until you're married and, you know, that you should date, man and woman and all this.
Starting point is 00:23:43 And so that's, and that is one thing that we're trying to do is we give tools for people so that they won't die alone. And then, you know, whether that's with one person or, you know, multiple. We're not going to judge based on that attraction. And we also have, we have a tool in the book that's, that helps you identify what your orientation is in terms of who you should be attracted to. Okay. So, um, I think that one, I don't remember, I think that one might have the, one of them has a, a big target and you flip a coin onto it a few times, you know, and it'll tell you, oh, I am a, you know, or it might be a dartboard. I, I, I, it might be a dartboard. I,
Starting point is 00:24:23 I forget exactly, but it's one of those things where you can kind of go just kind of a randomizer. And it's like, oh, maybe I'm, maybe I'm attracted to Patriot missiles today or whatever it is. You know, that's the kind of thing that we do in the book. Yeah. And because you mentioned Tater taught sexuality, that's probably the like number one question that I get nowadays. That's like the biggest one parents call me. they're like, okay, tater tot sexuality, like specifically, how do I walk through this? Is it always going to be tater taught?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Is it just a variation of, um, of potato? You know, like, is it fries? Is it, is it going to be mashed potatoes? It's baked potatoes. I wish I, I don't know all the nuances of it, but it sounds like something that you know a lot about. So if you could just walk us through like what tater taught identity, sexuality, what does that look like?
Starting point is 00:25:22 Well, it's fair. That's a very, I mean, I guess. Again, it's a very personal, it's a very personal question. And it depends on the person, you know, like, if you wake up and you're feeling, like, let's say it's a nice crisp morning and you're thinking, like, internally, I feel crisp, I feel so crisp right now. I feel crispy. Like that, okay, made crispy, you know, maybe, maybe you're, maybe you're tater shot.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Like, that's kind of, and this is a, this is a template and a process that we're, works for all the different genders. It's you wake up and just say, how am I feeling? And you try to identify. You brought it up. You said it, but, you know, it's all about you. You define a reality and everything revolves around you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:05 As all the great philosophers of the age have discovered, you know, you, it is all about you and you will only be happy if you only ever do things to please you and your specific desires. So spend a ton of time thinking about yourself and what you're in terms of. feelings are and then announcing to the world, you know, today I am a tatergot or like today I am like Irish tots. You know, you could be an Irish tater tot, like the cheese and the, uh, those little like chives. You could put chives on those. Yeah. You know, like it, you could be any variation. So it's whatever you want it to be really. Yeah. And you know, I think that message that you just preached so
Starting point is 00:26:53 beautifully that it's about you, it's about you, it's about you, like every second. I mean, that's really what this comes down to. Everything revolves around you, no matter how many people you hurt, no matter how many people you lie to or betray, really, if anyone expresses any kind of hurt feelings or anything like that, they're probably just, they have some kind of internalized phobia or they're evil in some way they might harbor, I don't know, some really religious, maybe Mormon thoughts. And they should just be, they should be kind of just cut out of your life. So even if you end up totally alone, the most important thing is that you have every second of every day affirmed yourself and put yourself first and made it about you, right?
Starting point is 00:27:48 Absolutely. And we call, there's a term for this. You know, we call the people who disagree with you, even on the most minor of things. We call it being toxic. Yeah. You know, if they don't affirm you, if they don't affirm every single little thing about you, they are toxic and there to be cut out of your life. There's another word that we call them. We call them narcissists. So if you've dated 50 people in a row and it's always ended in disaster, you're not, problem. You just happened to date 50 people who are narcissists because they didn't reorient their life around you and your every woman desire. So it's really important to realize you are not the problem with your life. It is not you. It is the world. You are a victim. If the world won't affirm every single thing you do, then cut the world out of your life. Yeah. You know, that's, that's really great, really great advice. Yeah. And I'm glad I'm glad that you're on board with that as well. Well, it's just someone that I look to is probably like the smartest person that I know is Lizzo.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And I've been thinking about her. I think that those are her pronouns. I've been thinking about her a lot lately. And just she preaches this kindness message and this just love yourself, love yourself, love yourself, which clearly she does. There's a lot to love. But recently she's had people come out and say, you know, Lizzo is a bully. Lizzo threatened me with violence and she sexually harassed me and she's actually this terrible person. And I just can't help but think that all of those people, they must just be super
Starting point is 00:29:47 jealous because all Lizzo is doing is making it about her. And that is one of the most beautiful and actually selfless things that you can do. I don't know if you also admire Lizzo or anyone like her, but gosh, I just feel so bad that all these toxic people are now complaining about her behavior. Well, I mean, I think I think you're right in that there's a lot of jealousy there that that that they're in Lizzo's shadow all the time. You know, and all, I mean, really all of us are are constantly in Lizzo's shadow, such a large, such a big personality. Yeah. you know, that it's just the gravity of, of what she does and who she is, you know, just kind of pulls us all in. And I think, I think it's easy to just be really, really jealous of how huge and gargantuan, you know, her success has been.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And so I understand why people are a little bit, are a little bit jealous of someone like that. But I mean, really, like, I don't even understand what, why they'd say Elizabeth did anything wrong. Like, she was living her truth. She was being herself. You know, I've seen some of the allegations. We probably shouldn't, you know, repeat them on this show. But she was trying to sexually free and liberate these people in a lot of ways
Starting point is 00:31:18 by inviting them to, you know, just go out there and do what you want. And I think it's really, again, toxic and narcissistic of these people to reject Lizzo's, you know, invitation to be their true self. So I absolutely agree with you. Like Lizzo is, I mean, Lizzo could be a gender. I might, by the end of this interview, I might be Lizzo gender. Decide that I'm a Lizzo, Lizzo, Lizzo sexual or Lizzo, misogender, one of those. I'll think about it. Yeah. Wow. That's, that's really heavy. Um, okay. Moving on. to just kind of our final things here. I want to get your reaction to some clips that I found poignant and helpful.
Starting point is 00:32:01 But first, I just want to get your take on, I think a beautiful development that I've seen over the past few years is men dressed in fishnets and thongs and prosthetic breasts and a lot of makeup. Well, you know, I've gone to these shows with these men who call themselves drag queens for a long time. And, you know, every time that I've gone to a show, I'm like, oh, my gosh, kids need to see this. Why aren't kids here? And that was really my biggest concern when I started going to drag shows 10 years ago looking around and seeing all these adults. And I was like, what is going on? Why aren't
Starting point is 00:32:34 their kids? And where are the kids books? And why are we at a bar and not a library? So I'm thankful that again, shifted obviously towards better where it's not just bars and nightclubs that we're seeing these men not really wearing clothes and acting like women, but they're finally where they belong. reading kids books at libraries to toddlers. So I'm guessing you feel just as positive about this evolution that's occurred over the past few years. Yeah, I mean, the people who criticize this, these drag queen story hours, it's like, do you hate reading? Do you not want kids to be literate? Because kids literally couldn't learn how to read if they weren't being read to. by a man in a dress.
Starting point is 00:33:25 So I don't, like for thousands of years, people, literally, for thousands of years of human history, kids didn't know how to read. And the reason for that is because there was no drag queen story hours. They literally did not know how to read until just a few years ago when these started popping up. So now kids can read. Isn't that a good thing? I don't understand. I don't understand these far right adjacent QAnon, um,
Starting point is 00:33:53 conspiracy theorists because it's like you you obviously hate reading you obviously don't like books like how is my how are my kids supposed to learn how to read how to read if there's not if there's not a drag queen reading a book to them like um you know the abccc's of gender the LGBTQs um the hips on the drag queen goes swish swish yeah um you know antifa baby all these great books. Anti-racist baby, yeah. Anti-racist baby, yeah. All of those kinds of things.
Starting point is 00:34:29 So, yeah. Yeah, I completely agree with you. Yeah, I mean, other people can keep their kids ignorant and not being able to read if they want to. Just try to teach them the ABCs or songs or just read them. I don't know. I mean, Dr. Seuss or something. You can try that.
Starting point is 00:34:50 You can try that if you want to. I've never seen it work. I have only ever seen a kid learn how to read when it's been a man in fake eyebrows and fishnets doing the teaching. But maybe that's just me. I don't know. Yeah. Can you say Florida? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I mean, come on. All right. I want to get your reaction to some of these clips that we've got. Let's see. Bree, I'll let you decide what clips you think are worth sharing, and then we'll get Kyle's reaction after they play. Today I'm going to show you how to use beep, boop pronouns, and sentences. Aren't pronouns just like he, she, and they?
Starting point is 00:35:34 Well, yeah, pronouns can be he, she, or they? However, they can also be neop pronouns. Deep has a strong sense of self and is confident in Boop's self and Beep's abilities. Deep is proud of Boop's self and all the accomplishments boop has achieved and beep is not afraid to show it. And those are so fun to say, honestly, I love them. Okay, so that was really easy for me to understand. But could you just interpret that for people who might not be as advanced as us?
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah, absolutely. So, I mean, what pronouns used to do is, you know, they were a part of speech. Again, just trigger warning, this is hateful, what I'm about to say. They were a part of speech that identified the anteceded that you were referring to. So in a sentence, you can talk about a few people. And then you can say, and he, and then you know, they're referring to the male person in the sentence. And then she, oh, they're referring to the female person. But that's, that's not, like, again, we've progressed past that now to the point where pronouns are just, you know, how you're feeling today.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And then everybody else around you has to know up to the minute what those pronouns are so they can refer to you by the correct thing about how you're feeling. feeling in the moment. So beep, boop, obviously beep there in the video was feeling good about boop's self and confident about boop's self. So beep went and, um, and explain that to everybody. So everybody now has to respect be, beep, beep's a statement about boot self. Yeah, see, it's easy. And I hope I, I hope I didn't misuse that anywhere there, but that's, that's, um, yeah, that's, The only thing about the beat, boop-boop thing that I would caution is that is what Gina Carrano used as her pronouns for a while. So I wonder it could possibly be a hateful, a hateful thing.
Starting point is 00:37:28 So I would caution the beep-boop pronoun for that reason. And I would just be careful about it. And obviously there's a lot of grace, but don't get it wrong. You know, like that's pretty easy. There's a lot of grace and understanding, but don't mess up. because if you do, then, you know, the person who is just misgendered is not responsible for what happens to you after that. So it might be confusing, but also it's not hard. Yeah, a lot of grace, but don't mess up or we will destroy your life.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Okay, there's a couple more brief. You can surprise us. If I am transitioning, why am I pregnant when that's such a woman thing to do? I would first of all like to say that it is, free for me because one person asked why I don't do like surrogacy. I'm basically like I'm I feel like I'm doing surrogacy for myself. It's free for me. If I have the parts, I'm a dad, y'all. I'm about to have my third child. If I have it, I'm going to get my well use out of it. That, I mean, I just relate to that so much as a pregnant individual myself being your own surrogate. Wow. Wow. One of my
Starting point is 00:38:58 greatest regrets in life, you know, is that because I was assigned male at birth, I will never be able to be my own surrogate. And I will never be able to be a child factory who bleeds. You know, that's just like, it's so dignifying to be thought of. Yeah. Right. It's so dignifying to just be thought of as the biological processes that you can, that you can perform. You know, you're a child factory you your job is to pump out more children and you know that there was a way that that was hateful years ago but now we've arrived to the point where that's good good again so yeah you're child child factory and yeah it's really sad that I can't be that so good for him yeah bleeder minstrator like I just like I love that it feels very empowering to me anyway um okay do you have one more
Starting point is 00:39:55 that we can react to okay Hi, my name is King and I'm a non-human alter in a DID system, and I'm making a Discord server for people who experience wing dysphoria. It is, of course, open to systems with non-human headmates, and it is also open to, I think they're called wing kin, literally anybody who experiences wing dysphoria. Hope to see you there. Other folks who experience wing dysphoria and who get the phantom wings, I know we are all familiar with the feeling of needing to stretch our wings and not being able to. but is it as common of an experience to feel like you have water on your wings? Like feel like your wings got wet and you need to like fluff them up and shake the water out. And you can't and it's frustrating.
Starting point is 00:40:37 So thoughts. Okay, so wing dysphoria is feeling like you have wings on your body but you don't, which is a hateful reality. Again, reality is a right-wing hate crime. Yeah. So, I mean, and I applaud these brave people, you know, that, that are willing to go out and say the thing that we've all been feeling that we wanted to have wings. Like, I jumped off the roof when I was, when I was six, you know, to fly.
Starting point is 00:41:19 And my parents were hateful, and they said, you don't have wings. Like, you're going to hurt yourself. And what they should have said was, oh my gosh, like you have wing dysphoria. And they should have recognized that. And the whole course of my life could have been different. But there's various kinds of wing dysphoria. You know, there's obviously people that feel like they're like an eagle or vampire. They do vampires have wings.
Starting point is 00:41:47 A bat, bad seven wings. You know, a B2 bomber. Like all of these things are different ways that you could feel that winged spores. So I really feel for those people and hope that they're able to get the medical help that they need to get that, those prosthetic wings installed. Yeah, it's just, it's so powerful to hear this person. I think it's she, her talk about feeling the water on her wings. And probably the wind beneath her wings and too,
Starting point is 00:42:16 but how difficult would that be to wake up every day and to do what you did to jump off your bed or jump off your roof or like, I mean, Empire State, whatever. And then to every time end up in the hospital. Like, I don't think we have enough sympathy for that. Absolutely. And that's the kind of thing that, that us non-gender conforming people deal with every day,
Starting point is 00:42:42 that other people that are just driving to their jobs and working and, you know, having a good time with their families and all of that. That's the kind of experience that they will never understand. You know, just jump, you know, you go to the top of the Empire Stapling and try to jump off. And they're like, hey, you don't have, wings, ah, triggered.
Starting point is 00:43:00 You know, that's an experience that they'll never have to suffer through. So we need to think about these oppressed people groups. I agree. And we don't have time to get into it, but this, you know, sweet lady, I don't know, Hawk, Blue Jay, I'm not sure exactly, but also talked about headmates. And I don't know if y'all cover this in this book, but that's something I see on TikTok a lot where they're different. people in a person's brain.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And, you know, I think that used to be a medical diagnosis. It's not anymore. Now it's a beautiful thing to embrace. Like if, you know, a few years ago, we thought, okay, if someone has voices inside their head and they're jumping off buildings, that's bad. But now we get it, you know? So I just think that this book is helping people understand that there's so many different ways to be and nothing is wrong that you feel as good, right?
Starting point is 00:44:03 Exactly. I mean, I pray that we can progress to the day where someone's trying to jump off a building and the cops pull up with megaphones and they just say, you do you, follow your truth. And then they let them jump. Because that's the kind of society that we're trying to build. That's what we're trying to do in the Val-on-Beguag to gender is we're trying to create this kind of society.
Starting point is 00:44:29 So if you're a good person, you will buy the book. If you're a better person, you'll buy many kinds of the book. And if you're a hateful bigot, you know, then you won't. You won't buy any at all. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Maybe one for every gender. Yeah, I would love it. That'd be great. Yeah. Well, Kyle, thank you so much. And keep us updated if you want to come back on with different you know, different identities or different ideas that you have, as you said so well, every new
Starting point is 00:45:03 idea that someone has is good and better than the last idea and discovery that we had. So I know that there will be more books because there's always new thoughts define this social construct that some people refer to as reality. So thank you, Kyle. Thank you so much. Everyone can go buy this book wherever books are sold and as Kyle said your morality is directly tied to how many books you buy. So
Starting point is 00:45:32 thank you Kyle so much. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Alley, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself.
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