Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 883 | Should Christians Do MLMs? | Q&A

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.

Starting point is 00:00:19 We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Have I lost friends because of my beliefs? Which cities are on my travel bucket list? What do I think about MLMs? Also, a hilarious would you rather.

Starting point is 00:00:53 All on today's episode of Relatable, which is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to good ranchers.com. Use promo code Allie at checkout. That's good ranchers.com. Code All right. Hey guys. Welcome to Relatable. All right. We've got another Q&A for you today. A variety of questions, as always. Some more serious than others. Thanks so much for submitting these. All right. One of the questions is what are your favorite recipes? So one of my resolutions or goals at the beginning of the year was to be more creative and more intentional, if you will, about what I cook for dinner. I would say since my husband and I got married, it's just been a meat and two sides. So we would do chicken, we would do beef, we would do turkey, arrange it in some very simple way, and then have

Starting point is 00:01:52 maybe one starch and one vegetable when we were super healthy. We should probably go back to this. When we first got married, it was always two vegetables. It was always like carrots and then squash and then like ground turkey gross and yet we didn't care that's what that's what we ate and so we've basically done something like that for the past seven or so years but this year i was like you know what i want to get a little bit more creative and so i got a couple cookbooks i got a defined dish cookbook this person has a ton of followers because she does a lot of i don't do whole 30 but whole 30 type recipes, healthier recipes, swaps. Like she has a lot of kid recipes that she swaps clean ingredients for like chicken nuggets, like grain-free chicken nuggets or something like that.

Starting point is 00:02:41 And so I decided that I was going to follow some recipes in her cookbook. Also, I follow half-baked harvest. I follow a lot of different recipe people, a lot of different, I don't know, food influencers on Instagram. And I try to take some of their recipes. And so I do that. I will follow recipes, the problem is for me is that I have untreated attention deficit disorder and have my whole life. So when I read a recipe and they're like, this is so simple, you will be able to do this in 35 minutes. I'm like, okay, well, two hours later, I am still waiting for it to finish. So that is because, I mean, that's because of a lot of things. That's because while you're cooking, you never have your undivided attention on what you're actually doing in the kitchen because

Starting point is 00:03:29 you've got your kids asking you a million questions and, you know, pulling your attention in different directions and plus all the other things that I'm like trying to do on cooking, like answer messages, whatever it is. And so it takes me a long time to follow actual recipes. So I don't do it as much as I was doing it at the beginning of the year because of that, because I'm like, who has time for that? So now I've kind of taken inspiration from like a fine dish, half-baked harvest. And I've decided that there are some recipes that I will just put on rotation and that I will make as easy as possible. So one thing that I do probably once a week is make tacos or you can make cassidias. It's basically the same thing. Just depends on how you like

Starting point is 00:04:13 mush the tortilla down and cut it. But I will take the sioux, which is grain free. It's a grain-free brand tortillas. So whether that's almond flour or Kosova flour, is that how you pronounce that and you put some oil on a pan and you warm you warm it up you warm up the tortilla you put cheese on it this is what I do I go ahead and I put cheese on it and then you fill it you take it off the pan and then you fill it with whatever you want to whether that's the ground beef that you just browned or whether that's fajita chicken I get all this stuff from good ranchers and I put it in the taco and then I usually make guacamole on my own which is super super easy. Takes like two seconds and then maybe some pico de gallo, which I like the pre-mixed

Starting point is 00:04:59 kind from Kroger and some maybe some more cheese or some sour cream. Some people do non-fat or not non-fat Greek yogurt. Plain Greek yogurt is what I was going to say. And whatever else you want on the top. And you can spice the meat to your liking and all that good stuff. Now that legitimately takes about 15 minutes. Browning beef is so easy. So I like to use beef rather than chicken because chicken just takes a little bit longer. But that's, is one recipe that I always do. Also, I like making pasta with olive oil, goat cheese, usually some kind of like mixture of spices. And then I really like the provincial blend of frozen vegetables from whole foods. And after you cook that on the stove top, which takes like

Starting point is 00:05:44 four minutes, you put that in your pasta. And then you add some chicken. You can also add some pesto to that. So I'm all about easy. I also really love carbs. I don't always do grain-free Sometimes I do grain-free, so sometimes I'll do like chickpea noodles or something like that. Yeah, tacos, pasta. I like sweet potatoes, regular potatoes. I'll make some mashed potatoes sometimes. Chicken, steak. My husband is the one who makes the steak.

Starting point is 00:06:14 I'm not very good at making steak. He's really good at that. So I don't know if that helps you at all. The taco recipe, I hope, comes in handy because it's so easy. I'm all for ease. I really would like the preparation to take under 45 minutes. Otherwise, I just get so distracted. All right.

Starting point is 00:06:29 Next question. What is the strangest pro-choice encounter you've ever had? I've probably had several bizarre ones in my DMs, just people not making good arguments and then getting really emotional when you just logically kind of push back on them or ask them questions, call you an extremist or a fascist, you know, just name call things like that. And it really comes from a place of insecurity. but maybe the most bizarre was probably when I had Brandon Robertson on this show who considers himself a progressive pro-LGBQ, pro-choice pastor, and him simply not being able to say that a baby is actually a human, a baby inside the womb, before the arbitrary number of 24 weeks,

Starting point is 00:07:15 but him being completely unable and unwilling to actually logically and scientifically back up that argument. and just seeing the stubbornness in going around in circles and, again, just the flimsiness of that argument. Actually, you know, I don't even know if that's the most bizarre. Maybe the strangest was probably when I was testifying before Congress in 2019 as the only pro-life witness. I was sitting next to an abortionist and these other so-called reproductive rights activists. And I was going back and forth with some Democratic legislators. And I was nervous about this beforehand. I don't get nervous about speaking in front of people, but I had never spoken in front of Congress before. And you're thinking, okay, yeah, I don't like these Democrats. I don't believe what they believe,

Starting point is 00:08:03 but they're going to have more sophisticated arguments. They're going to be difficult to go up against. And it was only difficult because they don't let you talk. It's not difficult because any of these Democrats actually had a sophisticated argument. I actually realized that all of them, are on the same level of argumentation when it comes to abortion as your average Twitter troll. Like they're not smarter. They're not more well spoken. They don't have better logic. They don't have different facts to back themselves up. They don't have a more sound or consistent moral compass. I mean, the same silly things that you hear from Randos on Facebook about why abortion is okay, you hear from Democrats in Congress. And so I don't know if that comforts you. It kind of comforted

Starting point is 00:08:46 me, at least in the moment, because I was nervous until they started talking, then I was like, oh, you are actually dumb when it comes to this. And I'm not intimidated by you at all. But it kind of makes you sad. I mean, these are the people that we've elected. These are supposed to be our moral and intellectual betters. And they literally can't come up with a coherent argument for the thing that they say that they must champion at all costs. It's wild. It's really sad. And I would like to have a formidable opponent on this. Like I would like to have a formidable opponent on this. Like I would like to have. an interesting debate, an interesting discussion with someone who will actually challenge the arguments intellectually and philosophically, I have not met that yet. And I guess that's bizarre to me, just the willingness to hold on to a position that is morally and logically untenable. So there's that. Okay, here's a good would you rather. Would you rather have avocados for hands? I don't know if this is cut open or just like avocados as they are. Avocados for hands or trade brains with Joe Biden.

Starting point is 00:09:57 Okay, if I, okay, here's the thing. Here's the thing. If I traded brains with Joe Biden, does that mean that I am really president? Does that mean that my brain goes into Joe Biden's brain and his body remains president, but he is thinking like a based person? Like he actually has good ideas and he can talk. And he is pushing policies that are much better for the country than the ones that he's pushing right now. So if I basically take, if I am becoming, if by trading brains with Joe Biden, like the country is getting me as president.

Starting point is 00:10:34 Okay, that would, it would be really weird. It would really freak me out to be in Joe Biden's body. But that's a sacrifice I'd be willing to make for the good of the country. Now, I feel really bad for my family that now they have like a 90-year-old civil war veteran in their home. I feel bad for my husband that he is now in one way or another married to Joe Biden. But again, thinking about the future of the world, not that I ever want to be president. I think there's about one million and one people in America that would be better for the job than me, maybe not a million, less than that, but a significant number.

Starting point is 00:11:19 But if it's me or Joe Biden, it's definitely me that's a better pick. So I don't know. I might want, I don't want to have Joe Biden's brain. I would love for Joe Biden to have my brain. So, yeah, I definitely don't want avocados for hands, though. So there's that. Hey, this is Steve Deast. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political.

Starting point is 00:11:48 They're moral, spiritual. and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are

Starting point is 00:12:15 or where we're headed, you can watch this Steve Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen And wherever you get podcasts, I hope you'll join us. Have I lost friends because of my beliefs? So hard to find other conservative millennials. Yes, I agree. That's part of why I named this podcast what I did, not because it's relatable for everyone or even close to a majority of people, but because it's relatable for the people that I want to reach.

Starting point is 00:12:44 People like me, people who are thinking through issues the way that I am and need to realize that we're not crazy and that we're not alone. I have lost friends. and it has not been because, and this is typical with conservatives and progressives, it's not always this way, but it tends to be this way. It's not because of me. It's not because I let go of their relationship or I said something that was rude or I said I can't tolerate you as a friend anymore because we don't believe the same things. It's because they felt that way, whether it was because of Trump or whether it's really the one that I'm thinking of was because of abortion. Someone, that was in my wedding, who decided to make her opinions about my opinions or my stance on abortion public for no reason. And when I reached out to this person privately to say, you know, you can talk to me. You can talk to me about these disagreements.

Starting point is 00:13:41 I never heard from that person again, ever. And looking back, I now, there were signs like in call. Like, this person was not a very nice or kind person. at all. And actually, like, our friendship was fraught with her kind of, I don't know, antics, resentment, not being a good friend. And so I probably should have known better and had better discernment. And so maybe it's in some ways the Lord protecting me, but I won't pretend like that wasn't hurtful. And there, I mean, there have been other friends over the years, even people who considered themselves conservative, who decided that they were going to, like, veer to the

Starting point is 00:14:23 left when it came to the George Floyd stuff. And again, it wasn't me that decided, hey, I can't be friends with you. But these people making public disagreements known, and then when I tried to talk to them privately, refusing to do so. So it hasn't been a lot. I'll say that. It hasn't been a lot. But it's been a couple. It's been a few. And every time it happens, of course, it hurts, especially when you make an effort to kind of humble yourself and talk to that person and to build a bridge and they just refuse. It makes you really wonder, okay, were we ever really friends? And so Some of you have been there, not just with friends, but also with family members. It sucks. Like, it's really hard. I mean, it's hard to feel that kind of rejection. Even if, like, you weren't that close to the person, it's really hard to feel rejection over the things that you believe, especially those of you who maybe you were raised pro-choice or progressive and you've become conservative or you became a Christian and the people who are not Christians in your life, they really reject you. That hurts. But remember that, I mean, we do serve a God who became flesh and we've was rejected here on earth.

Starting point is 00:15:25 And at the end of the day, if we're standing up for the life of babies inside the womb, if we're standing up for the biblical and biological definition of gender and for women's rights based on that biblical and biological definition, like if we are standing up for what God calls marriage, if we are standing up for those things, those are not really political issues. Those are biblical issues. And so what they're mad at is us being Christians, not necessarily our politics, not always. the issues. But when it comes to those big ones that tend to be the wedges in our relationship,

Starting point is 00:15:59 it's really not because of your politics. It's actually just because of your Christianity. And if that's the case, if what you're standing for is biblically good and true, then we have someone we can relate to in Christ, who was rejected here on earth, who faced that kind of betrayal, even from a friend who spent days upon days with him, who saw the most intimate parts of his life, meaning Judas. And so he can sympathize with our weaknesses and with our pain there. If the world hates us, it's because the world hated Jesus first. So just keep that in mind. And I'm not saying all criticism because of your politics is the same as Jesus being rejected. But again, I'm talking about standing for the things that are

Starting point is 00:16:43 biblical, which very often we are being rejected for that as much as it hurts is absolutely worth it. and the people who are rejecting you because of that, it's because they're lost. But I'm also hopeful because I get a lot of people who reach out to me and are like, I did not like your podcast at first. I actually hate listened to your podcast or a friend shared your podcast and I begrudgingly listened and I didn't like anything that you had to say. It rubbed me the wrong way. Or I didn't agree with you on abortion or whatever it is.

Starting point is 00:17:14 But these other things happened in my life or I became a Christian or things changed or over time, whatever it is, and they come back and humbly say, you know, I actually think that you're right about this now. And I always appreciate that. So don't think that those people are written off forever, that you're always going to be at odds with them. They may change their heart and mind. God may do that. And maybe a conversation that you had with them at some point, maybe something that planted a seed. You just never know. Okay. Let's see. Thoughts on MLMs and the Christian women who sell their product. So I actually did a whole episode on this and we'll link it in the description because I did it a couple years ago or a few years ago, maybe in 2020. And here's the

Starting point is 00:18:01 thing with MLMs is that I'm very familiar with MLMs. I do not have necessarily anything against multi-level marketing in general. I think a lot of multi-level marketing is a pyramid scheme. So you're just, I always think of that scene in the office where Jim has to show Michael that the business plan that he has is actually a pyramid scheme by actually drawing a triangle around Michael's lesson. But I think a lot of them are pyramid schemes and a lot of them just make the people at the top very rich and they exploit working class and poor people by saying you're going to gain financial freedom, you're going to get all of this stuff. And really, they can't attain the goals that they say that they'll be able to reach easily.

Starting point is 00:18:56 And meanwhile, they're buying the products or doing the things that are just making the people who are already in the business, who are at the top of the business richer. I don't think that's every multi-level marketing business, though. And I don't think that all or even the majority of people who are a part of multi-level marketing companies are these conniving, manipulative people. I do know people who engage in multi-level marketing who have been able to make extra income for their family, who have gained some kind of some more stability or financial freedom from selling makeup or selling products, whatever it is in multi-level marketing company. So I don't think it's innately sinful. I don't

Starting point is 00:19:34 think it's satanic or anything like that. I think the hatred of all MLMs is kind of unreasonable in a lot of ways and really misplaced. I do think that. there are wrong and dangerous MLMs that function kind of like a cult and certainly a pyramid scheme. I also think that there is a wrong way to share about your business. And I think that's really what rubs people the wrong way. When someone reaches out to them and the person reaching out pretends to be doing it in a relational way, pretends to be doing it in a caring way, tries to build a relationship and a friendship with that person with the express purpose of trying to get them to buy a product or try to get them to join their business, that is always

Starting point is 00:20:18 going to damage that relationship. Now, if it just comes up organically, or I think if you're just outright and you're like, I think you would really enjoy this product, you would, you should check it out. I think that's honest. I think it is actually a lie. It is actually very deceitful. I do think it is simple to pretend to be building a relationship with someone when really the only reason you're doing that is to try to make money off of them. That's wrong. And I do think that happens really with any kind of sales, but certainly with multi-level marketing. There was actually a few years ago. So we were new to the area. We joined a church. There was a young couple who came up to us. They were very outgoing. They were very sweet. We were like, my husband and I,

Starting point is 00:21:00 before we had kids and we were looking for Christian community. We were like, oh, my gosh, this is the Lord. This is like, he's bringing this couple into our lives. It's so sweet. And they were so nice. They would reach out to us. And then we kind of stopped hearing from them. Actually, I don't remember if it was because we didn't go back to that church, but or what, what happened? I think maybe we got together with them once. But a couple weeks later, she called me, the one of the, the girl in the couple called me. And she was like, hey, I just wanted to see how you're doing. How can I be praying for you? Like, oh, this is awesome. This is random. But I'm something like talking to her about my life.

Starting point is 00:21:37 and then all the sudden, like, her husband comes on the phone and they start selling me on their multi-level marketing company. And I'm like, oh, I thought that this wasn't, I thought you cared. Like, I thought that you were reaching out to me because you wanted to be friends with me and the Lord had put you on my, on your heart or put me on your heart or something. But really, you're just trying to recruit us into your business. We never talked to them again. Totally rubbed us the wrong way. And I'm someone who like is okay with that kind of hustle and things like that as long as it's honest, but that was dishonest. That was wrong. That was almost a form of emotional and spiritual manipulation, which I think can't exist in some of these MLMs. So that's what I'll say. I don't think multi-level marketing is innately sinful. I think that there is a way to do it that can be good for your family, that can be wise, that can be glorifying to the Lord, that can maybe even be helpful in your friendships and building community. I think there's a way to do it. That is really selfish and really manipulative and really wrong. Maybe. Maybe you're like all things, but I do think that there is more of a temptation, more of a propensity towards that

Starting point is 00:22:43 in multi-level marketing. So I'm not saying avoid it at all costs. I'm just saying, be careful. But cities are on your bucket travel list. So I studied abroad in Scotland, in college. And so I got to travel a lot of Europe then. But crazily enough, I think because I thought I'm close to Ireland. I'll definitely visit it at some point in the five months that I'm over here. And then I never did. So I would love to go to Northern Ireland. I would love to go to Ireland. I would love to my husband and I to do that one day. I know it's beautiful. And even the cities, I would love to I'd love to go to Belfast. I want to go to Belfast. I want to do like a CS Lewis tour in Belfast. I would love to Dublin. But I'd also love to just go to the other parts of Ireland that are really beautiful. I'd love to

Starting point is 00:23:42 go back to Scotland. I love Edinburgh, I love Edinburgh, Scotland. I would love to go back there, take my husband there, but I'd also love to go back to the Scottish Highlands. I've always wanted to go to Greece. I've never been to Greece. I've always wanted to do that. There are different parts of Italy that I would like to go

Starting point is 00:24:00 to. I went to several cities in Italy when I was over in Europe, but I, there are others that I would like to go to. I've never been to, I know you said cities, but now I'm thinking of countries. Australia and New Zealand. My husband's been there. I've never been there. So lots of places I would like to go. I'm sorry, but I really don't have a desire to go to Asia. I just don't. I never have. My husband has been to China. He spent like two weeks in China in college. I'm not sure that he would

Starting point is 00:24:26 say he necessarily recommends it, although I know a lot of you have traveled there and you've liked it. That's just not really on my bucket list. So lots of places. There are lots of places in the United States. I actually haven't been. I don't think I've ever been to Oregon. So maybe there. Some city there. I'm not Portland. I don't think that I've ever been to Alaska. I've ever been to the Dakotas. I don't think so. I don't like the cold. So there is a limited time during the year that I would ever go to these places. So yeah, I've actually never been to Chicago either. I'm sure that there are fun parts of Chicago that I would like to go to, parts that I would also not like to go to. So it seems. Yeah, that's what I would say. I'm definitely like a city gal. As much as I would like to be some kind of rural cow milking, chicken raising, egg plucking, cabbage raising gal. I'm just really not. I'm really a suburb girl. I love the suburbs, but I'm closer to being a city girl than I am like a farm girl. As much as I imagine that I would like to be that, the truth is I will be absolutely useless in an apocalypse. And that's just the truth of it. Okay, a couple more questions. How do I personally deal with anxiety being online so much? So if you look at my Twitter timeline, I am compared to other people in my industry. I am not on Twitter very much. I don't tweet very much. I mean, I would say most people who do what I do,

Starting point is 00:26:04 especially in conservative media, tweet, I don't know, 10 to 20 times a day. At least, I just can't stomach it. Like I just can't be on Twitter that much. It's a, I get on there when I want to know, okay, what's happening? What are people saying about this particular subject? So I will scroll on Twitter. I'll tweet maybe once a day. Sometimes it's like three times a week. Sometimes I'm just like taking a hiatus.

Starting point is 00:26:28 Instagram is in general more lighthearted content, although there's plenty of stuff to make us mad there. I'm not going to say that social media doesn't give me any anxiety. It does. Certainly if I get like certain. kinds of messages or comments. I start just like worrying, not about backlash, but just about like safety and things like that. And so, of course, there's some anxiety that comes with that, but I really, I really do limit the intake of news online. I also follow on Instagram, like a lot

Starting point is 00:26:58 of totally non-political, non-news accounts. And I also, when I talk to my friends, so I'm like a voice message fiend. My friends and I, we have a lot of voice messages, a lot of video messages that we send. We're talking about life. Like, we're talking about motherhood. We're talking about what's going on in the day to day. We're talking about our spiritual lives, our personal problems. We're not talking about politics. Same thing with my husband and me for the most part. He doesn't have Twitter. He's not on social media. And so I think it's that I have so much normalcy in my life. I've never wanted to live in L.A. or D.C. or New York. Like, I go to a normal church. I have normal friends. I mean, like, non-political, non-media. And that's most of what I focus my day on. And so I do have to talk about this and think about this stuff a lot. I mean, preparing for the podcast is a lot. And of course, I have to talk and think about this stuff. But I think I just work really hard to balance it with a lot of normalcy. And a lot of just of the mundane and the ordinary and focusing on those.

Starting point is 00:28:07 Like my prayers are centered on, like what's going on in my friend's lives and my family's life in my life. It's typically not always thinking about the state of the world. And so, yeah, but I can definitely be an anxious person. So I have to be careful about it. Yeah, I have to balance it. And then also just trust in the total and complete sovereignty of God in doing the next right thing.

Starting point is 00:28:31 That's really all you can do. do. What type of, okay, maybe one or two more questions. What type of workout is your favorite? High intensity, high intensity interval training, orange theory type, walking, running, strength, etc. Interesting question. I've done all different types. I got in shape when I was in college. And I definitely have not been committed to working out as much over the past four years. I used to be like super in shape and I loved CrossFit. I did Orange Theory for a little bit. Don't like it. I've never liked it because I don't like running. But that's why I liked CrossFit and CrossFit type workouts because it was such a variety and you were moving.

Starting point is 00:29:10 But I really fell in love with bar classes in 2013. And I've been doing that on and off. I did cycling for a little bit. I actually did do running for a do running. I actually ran for a little bit. I ran a half marathon in college. But I love bar classes. I'm not saying that it is the superior your type of workout objectively. I think that you can burn more calories and probably build more strength doing other things. Certainly I was a lot stronger when I was doing CrossFit, but I love it. And I think it's important to love your workout if you can because you'll just do it more. The best type of workout is the one that you will actually do. So if you will go on a walk, go on a walk. If you will cycle, cycle. If you will wake up early to go to CrossFit or to go

Starting point is 00:29:55 to Orange Theory or to go to a bar class, then that's the one. that's the one that you should do. And yeah, I don't know if I'll always do it. I do kind of see myself in the future going back to like a CrossFit type thing. Maybe when I'm done having kids one day. I don't know. I love the competitive nature of CrossFit. I don't like all of the stuff.

Starting point is 00:30:18 Like I'm not going to do all of the Olympic lifts. I'm just not. I am going to modify and I'm not going to feel a bit of shame or embarrassment about that at all. Because it just doesn't help me in life to know. how to do a snatch. I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want the shoulder mobility that requires. So, but I really liked the intensity of it and the competitiveness of it. I do kind of miss that. But I love the variety and the fun that comes with bar classes. So yeah, that's what I would say. That's what I would say. I hate rowing, hate running. So if I can avoid those two things,

Starting point is 00:30:56 I'm good. All right. Last question. What is your secular guilty pleasure. I don't have guilty pleasures. I don't, I'm not, I don't think that I'm guilty for any of the things that I enjoy because secular isn't simple necessarily. The whole earth is the lords and everything therein. There are things that are simple, of course, but that doesn't, just because something is not explicitly Christian, does it mean that it's not glorifying the Lord or that it's not the Lord's. Like, I was just reading as I'm recording this, a secular book called Hannah Coulter. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it.

Starting point is 00:31:38 I mean, it's as slow as molasses. But it's a sweet book. It's not necessarily about Christianity or necessarily about a Christian testimony, but it is certainly a book with uplifting themes that champions Christian virtues. It even has a couple of Bible verses in there. And so I read a lot of books like that. I read a lot of books that are not explicitly Christian. I would say almost every book that I read, especially that's a fiction book, is not explicitly Christian.

Starting point is 00:32:04 And I love reading. I love fictional books. I love Christian books, too. I love nonfiction books. But I think fictional books, of course, those that are not smutty and glorifying sin and all of that. I think that they help your creativity. I think that they help you become a better writer, a better thinker. And of course, like, I love comedy. I love TV. That's not, I mean, that's not Christian. And of course there are some things in it that are not glorifying necessarily, like the office. I mean, they're going to have some off-color jokes. They're going to say some things that aren't necessarily found in the Bible, but are funny. And I do think as adults, we can kind of filter those things out.

Starting point is 00:32:44 Same thing with a lot of curb your enthusiasm. My husband and I just love comedy. But you do have to kind of be discerning what you are ingesting in your mind. And I'm all for it. If you say, I don't want anything that is not explicitly Christian. I think that's great. But I do think that there's a lot of joy and just fun to be found in all kinds of forms of entertainment, whether or not it's explicitly Christian. So I don't feel guilty about that.

Starting point is 00:33:10 All right. That's all we have time for today. Thanks so much for listening. We'll see you soon. Hey, guys. If you love this podcast, please leave us a five-star review wherever you listen on Apple Podcast or on Spotify. And if you have it yet, please subscribe to our YouTube channel. Thanks.

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