Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 908 | Calling Out Cru’s LGBTQ Compromise

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.

Starting point is 00:00:19 We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Dr. Rosaria Butterfield, queer theorist turned Christian, spoke at Liberty University last week and called out organizations and ministries that she believes are compromising on the LGBTQ issue. She has some really, really sharp words that I want you to hear. And also, something that you may not know about LGBTQ is that it can be a way to try to get out of a ticket if you are pulled over by a police officer.

Starting point is 00:01:11 So we're going to see an example of that later in today's episode, which is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com. Use code Allie at checkout. That's goodmanters.com. Code Allie. Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday, halfway through the week. Hope you guys are having a great one.

Starting point is 00:01:37 All right, we've got so much to get through today. I'll try to be as concise as possible. No promises, though I can never promise that. Okay, before we get into what I just told you, we're about to talk about, let me just tell y'all something that happened to me this week, totally underestimated how much people would take interest in this story that I shared on Instagram yesterday.

Starting point is 00:01:57 I don't know. Maybe this is just a story to make you feel better about yourself or for those of you who are still dealing with the effects of pregnancy brain, mom brain, newborn brain, all that stuff that I clearly am, maybe you will listen to this and be like, oh, I haven't done something that dumb yet and you'll feel better about yourself. That's what I'm here for. Okay, so we are renovating some parts of our house. This has been a long time coming.

Starting point is 00:02:23 And just as an aside, I've never done anything like this before. and I am very reticent to make decisions about like new floors or new countertops or anything like that because it's a really big, it's a big thing. It's a big thing to decide on. And obviously it's an investment that you're making and I'm so scared that I'm going to pick the wrong thing. I know what I like, but actually going out there and picking something and not knowing exactly what it's going to look like, the decision making process has taken me months. Very anxious about that whole thing. It's not something that necessarily comes naturally to me, so I'm soliciting the opinions of people who are more design-minded than I am. So that's how I've approached every step of this process,

Starting point is 00:03:06 including the rug buying process. I am someone who has a million tabs open on my browser at all times because I'm afraid if I exit out of a browser before I've actually completed the task or bought the thing or read the article, then I'm going to forget about it. Now, very often, it just like my interest expires on that thing and so I will end up exiting out of it and there was no point for me having there was no point to me having it open for four months but I will keep them open for a long time and that includes the rugable website so rugable I'm very they're getting free advertising right now no idea if they align with our values but uh they have a rug system they call it a rug system where you have like the rug itself, I guess, or the, I don't know, some kind of pad,

Starting point is 00:03:57 and then you have a cover that is washable. Now, a washable rug is very, very interesting to me as a mom of toddlers because I hate spending so much money on rugs. Rugs are very expensive, especially any kind of quality rug is very expensive. And then they can be very difficult to clean depending on the kind of rug that you get. And if you've got toddlers, it's just inevitable things are going to happen. Even if you try to siloed them off in the kitchen, when they're eating things just happen to rugs, especially the particular rugs that I was looking for, which was a runner in the entryway of my house. So I went back and forth on these ruggable rugs, deciding which color I wanted, we got, we have new floors. And so I wanted to pick a color that would go

Starting point is 00:04:41 with the floor, but I just wasn't exactly sure what would look good. So I was going back and forth between all these different rugs and I finally narrowed it down. I finally narrowed it down. to the rug that I was like, okay, it's a neutral tone, but it's got a little bit of gray in it. I think that's going to look good. It had like this rope pattern on it that I was like, okay, that's nice, that's neutral, that's subtle. I think it'll probably look good, but I can always send it back if I don't like it. And so I still though, I had it clicked. I had it in my cart and I was still waiting and I deliberated. I did pros and cons. I did compare contrast. and I settled on this runner, on this particular runner, and I'll put it up if you're watching on

Starting point is 00:05:23 YouTube, looks fine, right? So I ordered it. I ordered it. And I was excited to try my rugable rug. And then yesterday I was sitting on the couch and I got an email and it was like your order has shipped from Rugable. That's exciting. But something in my mind. I just glanced at it. It's something caught. Something was snagged in my mind. And I thought that I saw the words toy story on that email. Toy Story. Did I see, no, I didn't see Toy Story. No, that wouldn't make any sense. Maybe it's just, no, no, no. So I decided to look a few minutes later because I couldn't stop thinking about that. I was like, did I see the words toy story on that email? So I went back to the email and I saw that it said, your toy story rug has shipped. What? That's got to be a mistake. I'm picturing like,

Starting point is 00:06:20 okay, Buzz Lightyear and woody in primary colors on this rug. Obviously, I didn't order that. It's just like it's a type, but I don't know. It's just a mistake, but that's not what I ordered. But then I looked at it and I was like, well, this is a picture of the rug that I ordered. This is like the beige gray rug with the rope design that I ordered. But now I'm seen. that in the top left corner of this picture are the words toy story. And then I see that the name of the rug is toy story rug. And so then I zoom in on it and on the corner of the rug, on one corner of the rug, as you see if you're watching on YouTube, is Woody.

Starting point is 00:07:02 And he is the one lassoing the design. The breeze laughing. The rope design. And then on the other corner is Jesse. also lassoeing the rope design. So after all this time, after all this deliberation and consideration and careful thought, compare, contrast, the whole process that I went through to finally bite the bullet on buying this rug, it is a toy story rug.

Starting point is 00:07:31 It's a toy story rug. It has woody on it. Literally, it has woody. And Jesse on the rug lassoing the rope designs that I thought were so sophisticated and subtle. So I've got that coming to my house. That's going to be what people see you and they come into the entryway. And so if you ever need any design help, you're looking, I don't know, maybe you're a Disney adult. And you are looking to design your house in a way that gives homage to your favorite childhood movies,

Starting point is 00:08:02 but you want it to still kind of look cute. Maybe you should just hire me. You should hire me. I can help you do that. But actually, I'm not the first person that this has happened to. some of you messaged me and this made me laugh out loud you said that you ordered a rug that you really thought was cute and you didn't realize it was in the shape of baby Yoda's head from rugable they have these very like sophisticated and posh designs I wish people could hear your laugh free um and but they're like star wars so did they do this on purpose so they can go back to their Disney partners and say, look how many rugs that we sold.

Starting point is 00:08:44 And people didn't realize that, okay, you've actually, you just ordered Baby Yoda's head. You thought that it was a cute bath mat in like a unique, a unique shape. Oh my gosh. So I've got a Disney rug. I think I can send it back. But I'm not going to,

Starting point is 00:09:03 I don't think I'm going to send it back because there's someone on our team now who is interested in the rug for their house, for his child. They are hoping, it's just, it's a baby, but they're hoping to manifest his love for, for a toy story by getting this drug. So I might already have a buyer, but anyway, I hope that makes you feel better. And wives, if you have accidentally bought something that was really silly and your husband is like, really, why did you do that? Then you can tell them this story and you can say, see, it's not just me.

Starting point is 00:09:39 one of you also messaged me and said that you bought a shirt that from Victoria's Secret that you thought said son and you wore it to Target and then it really said sin and your husband was like why did you buy the shirt that's also funny that's funny I have a hard time understanding how that happened but I cannot judge you at all so I guess it happens to the best of us there you go I'll let you know though if I do end up buying another rugable rug how it's how it's it is because again washable rug very very enticing idea for me okay let's talk about our girl rosaria butterfield rosaria butterfield has been on this show before she has an incredible testimony she was a queer theory professor a couple decades ago she was living a lesbian lifestyle with her partner and then she became a christian and she shared exactly how that transformation happened when she was on our show a few months ago. And she realized after she became a Christian that this part of her life that, of course, she held so dear, which was this lesbian partnership that she was in, that she was being called

Starting point is 00:11:01 by the Holy Spirit to let go of it. She realized that there was no congruence between her homosexuality and the Christian life that God was calling her to, that scripture was really clear. This is something also that Christopher Yuan talks about, that they try really hard. there's a part of their spiritual journey where they're trying really hard to reconcile those two things that maybe the Bible is wrong or maybe the translation is wrong or maybe that myth that the concept of homosexuality was just added to the Bible in 1946 by these homophobic fascists. Maybe that's real.

Starting point is 00:11:32 And maybe it's possible to live in this particular kind of sin and still deny yourself and follow Christ. But both realized through the power of the Holy Spirit that that's just not possible, that all Christians are called to self-denial, that all Christians are called to repentance. And a form of that repentance is repenting from sexual sin, which the Bible is abundantly clear on that homosexuality is a sexual sin. According to the God who made us, according to the God who is love, according to the God who defines all things, who tells us what right is, what wrong is, what true is, what false is, he says that the only form of holy sexual. is between one man and one woman or living a chaste life of singleness. So there just isn't any, there isn't any gray there. And if we love the people around us, if we love our neighbors, if we love especially Christians who are still confused about this issue or who are trying to live a Christian

Starting point is 00:12:37 life without repenting from this, we will tell them the truth in love. Like if we believe that God is better than us and more loving than us and wiser than us, then we will tell them the truth of God's word when it comes to sexuality. Because remember, sexual sin is different than other sin, not that it is stronger than other sin or that it can't be repented of, but as Scripture tells it is a sin against your own body, which is supposed to be as a Christian, a dwelling place for the Holy Spirit. There's really no one who speaks more clearly on this issue than Dr. Butterfield. I just love her and I'm very inspired by her faith. When she came on a couple months ago,

Starting point is 00:13:15 she was talking about an article that she wrote where she repented of using quote unquote preferred pronouns or abiding by this idea of pronoun politeness. Pronoun politeness is a practice that is practiced by some Christians who say that this is a way to build a bridge with non-believers who may identify as the opposite sex, who may call themselves transgender. that maybe if we call the man who thinks he's a woman, she, then they will be more open to the gospel.

Starting point is 00:13:46 And we can build that trust and build a relationship with them. And then they will come to Christ. And then we can worry about the truth later. But as Rosaria said in her article of repentance and on this podcast, that you are not going to, you don't attract people to the cross of Christ by sinning, by lying, by basically, glorifying or accommodating the sin that Christ died for. And one of those sins is trying to deny the body that God gave you by identifying as the opposite sex.

Starting point is 00:14:21 So she just wrote a book called Five Lives of the Anti-Christian Age. And we actually were scheduled to record another podcast right before I went on maternity leave that was going to come out while I was gone about this book. But she ended up being sick that day and we just haven't had the chance to reschedule. So I'll just tell you a little bit about it. and that kind of leads into why we're talking about her today. So she wrote this book, Five Lies of the Anti-Christian Age.

Starting point is 00:14:46 And one of the lies is homosexuality is normal. Being a spiritual person is kinder than being a biblical person. And feminism is good for the world and the church. Transgenderism is normal. And modesty is an outdated burden that serves male dominus and holds women back. Gosh, this is amazing. Like I would, if anyone has any questions on sexuality and like the holy sexuality, Christian sexuality, probably the top two books that I

Starting point is 00:15:13 would recommend to you, and there are a lot of good ones, would be Love Thy Body by Nancy Piercy. And this book, Five Lives of the Anti-Christian Age by Rosaria Butterfield, just two incredibly sharp and biblical women. So she talked about this book and the lies that she presents in this book at Liberty University last Friday. She spoke at their convocation. This is a biweekly gathering of students for worship and nationally known speakers.

Starting point is 00:15:40 Most of you probably know that Liberty University is a very large Christian university, generally Christian conservative university in Virginia. So she spoke at the convocation. And she said a few things that she also says in her book. One of the things that she says in her book is going back to what we just said about this idea that lies can actually bring someone to the foot of the cross. She says as if the fruit of the Holy Spirit can grow from sin. And that is so true.

Starting point is 00:16:12 The fruit of the Holy Spirit is not going to grow from sin. And lying is a sin. And so she just completely refutes this even while humbly repenting herself of ones believing that. And then she goes on to, in this speech, before Liberty University, to quote unquote, name names. She wants to name names of organizations that she believes are telling this lie, the lie of pronoun, politeness, and also this lie that she points out that homosexual desire is not in itself disorder. This is something that we hear a lot, that the feeling itself or the attraction itself is not sin, just the action is sin, that it's okay to feel these things to be attracted in this way as long as you don't act upon them. but she points out what Romans 1 points out that that is simply not true. When Romans 1 lists homosexuality as a disordered and sinful behavior,

Starting point is 00:17:09 that prohibition is actually preceded by the description of homosexual desires is dishonorable. So this is Romans 126. For this reason, God gave them up to dishonorable passions. So the passion itself is dishonorable. for their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature. And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another. Men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. Goes on to say, and since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

Starting point is 00:17:51 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness. And so homosexuality and the passion that is behind homosexuality is dishonorable according to God. And this is why I kind of said this as an aside a couple minutes ago, this idea that homosexuality and that word was just added into the Bible in 1946 and therefore we can just ignore it. That is not true. The word homosexuality, of course, is a relatively new word. The reason why it was added into translations in the mid-20th century is because there wasn't a word like that. Homosexuality was fairly new and so they started using it in new

Starting point is 00:18:30 translations, but the concept was always forbidden. The concept was always explained. Romans 1 wasn't just added into the Bible. That verse that I just read, that's been in the Bible. That's been in the biblical canon. That wasn't added to the Bible in 1946. Leviticus wasn't added to the Bible in 1946. Genesis 1 was added to the Bible in 1946. Ephesians 5 wasn't added to the Bible. Revelation 22 wasn't added to the Bible. First Corinthians 6 wasn't added to the Bible. These have all been parts of the biblical canon that clearly show that holy sexuality according to God, that holy marriage, according to God, is between one man and one woman. So it's a total non-sequitur, it's complete propaganda, that idea that in 1946 homophobes completely changed the biblical canon. That's just

Starting point is 00:19:14 not true. But we do see that the desire itself is dishonorable according to God. Now, that does not mean that a Christian who struggles with that, but is walking in repentance and is actively surrendering all sinful desires to the Lord that they can't actually be a Christian. Of course, we are all being sanctified by sinful desires of our sinful desires. You might desire to lie. You might desire to steal. You might desire to be. drunk. All of those things are sinful desires. They are dishonorable passions that we are actively through the power of the Holy Spirit and the grace of God meant to resist and repent of. And the hope is of the Christian life that those desires go away and wane entirely. And any sexually sinful desire,

Starting point is 00:20:06 of course, we should also have the hope that that is, that we are completely sanctified of that as well. So here is Rosaria Butterfield, naming names in her speech saying that these organizations attribute to the lie of, or contribute to the lie of pronoun politeness and this idea that sexually sinful desires are not actually sinful. I have heard all of these lies and just in the last year from Christian ministries. And this is where I name names, and I'm in a English professor, so I call this citing my sources. Revoice. Preston Sprinkles's Exiles in Babylon Conference, sponsored by his heretical Center for Faith,

Starting point is 00:20:56 Sexuality, and Gender, and Crew. And I have believed these lies, too, and not only as a Christian, and I have repented publicly as a Christian in my book, to you in articles, and these people can do the same. We don't throw people away, but without repentance, we don't trust them. We trust repentance saints, not just people with flashy ministries. Okay, so there's a few things on that. And I think the reason why she's saying, what she's saying, and the reason why she called out those organizations,

Starting point is 00:21:46 we're going to kind of get into some of those reasons. I believe she's using those examples. but I do think that Preston Sprinkle would take issue with what Rosaria said here. In fact, I know for a fact that he would take issue with Rosaria lumping him in this category. I am more than happy to have Preston Sprinkle on. I think he says a lot of good things. I think we probably agree on the vast majority of things that he says, even about sexuality. I'd be happy to have him on the podcast to talk about his recent book and to talk about this in particular.

Starting point is 00:22:20 Actually, more than that, I would love Rosaria and Preston to have a conversation. But the truth is, is that Preston Sprinkle has talked about the importance of pronoun, politeness, or at least that it's according to your conscience. And that maybe it's a case-by-case basis, but that you can use someone's pronouns that don't correspond with their biological sex. Rosaria and I agree. And as Rosaria says, she used to not believe this. I'm so glad that she does, that it's a lie.

Starting point is 00:22:48 It's always a lie. It's always a lie to call a man, she, and you're not bringing someone to the foot of the cross by sinning. And by affirming something that is killing them, that is a delusion, that is not just hurting their own body, but is hurting society as a whole that feeds into this delusion, this lie, that gender is malleable, that you can switch sexes. That's what's cutting off the breasts of healthy young women. That is what is allowing men into female prisons and rape shelters. and so I don't want to acquiesce on that at all. I don't want to contribute to that mass delusion at all that is deadly and damaging to the bodies and minds and souls and hearts of young people, of children.

Starting point is 00:23:30 So I just won't have any part of it. I don't see it as kind at all, even if it is polite. But I would be interested, of course, to hearing what Preston has to say about that. So maybe we can talk on this podcast. Now, Revoice is an organization that claims to be for biblical sexuality. They want to kind of bring people who identify as LGBTQ Christians into the fold while calling them to celibacy. But there are a lot of contradictory things within Revoiced. They say that they stand for biblical sexuality.

Starting point is 00:24:03 But when it comes to identity, I think that they are off. I think it's very similar to what we said about Andy Stanley last week that they see. LGBTQ as who you are. Not just a sinful desire that you have or confusion that you have or a part of your life and heart that needs to be sanctified by the Holy Spirit, but who you are, this immutable characteristic, a core of your identity. And you can see that by some of the posts that they post. For example, on their Instagram page, they have honoring LGBTQ plus history.

Starting point is 00:24:37 Now, tell me if you think that this sounds like a Christian organization that is promoting biblical sexuality and believes the Bible's definition of sexuality and believes that sin or that homosexuality and transgenderism is wrong and sinful and therefore deadly. Tell me if you think that that would describe an organization that says this, which is re-voice. In honor of the LGBTQ plus history month, we want to take a moment to pay tribute to the incredible individuals who paved the way for our rights and privileges. Their courage and resilience will never be forgotten as we ponder the stories of those who have gone before us. Let's also look ahead with hope. We anticipate the future where the church looks more and more like Jesus in the way that we love one another. Let us offer a

Starting point is 00:25:20 prayer for progress, understanding, and unity. They go on to say LGBTQ plus history tells us where we have come from and forms us where we are and sets the stage for where we are going. LGBTQ plus accomplishments are often lived on the shoulders of our predecessors. Many of us benefit today from rights and privileges fought for by those. who come before us. Our struggles and challenges do not occur in a vacuum. They're informed by the history of pain, turmoil, and rejection between the church and the LGBTQ community.

Starting point is 00:25:52 No. And so it goes on to say that. That to me doesn't sound like an organization that believes that LGBTQ is a sin and is disordered and should be repented of. It sounds like these people believe that this is a core identity. And we don't have time to go into every facet of revoiced. But I promise you, if you research them, which I welcome you to do, then you will find the same thing. My desire is not to take anything

Starting point is 00:26:17 out of context or to condemn an organization that shouldn't be condemned. I am for any organization that is promoting healthy and biblical sexuality and repentance from sin and of all people, but that doesn't seem to be really what this organization is in practice. And then just quickly, I'll look at crew. Why did she include crew? I think a lot of people were probably surprised by that. Crew is campus crusade for Christ. It's a interdenominational missions organization and it's really big. So there are probably people within crew that align with all different kinds of political leanings, especially when it comes to these culture war issues, which is really a biblical issue, like LGBTQ. So here's something that they say on their website that I found, that I found

Starting point is 00:27:12 So this is a resource or just guidance that they have on their website about evangelism. It says in evangelism, should I use someone's chosen and preferred name and pronouns? So this is what Cruz says on their website. Deciding to use someone's preferred name and pronouns is an issue of conscience. We must prayerfully decide before the Lord how we will act in each of these. Oh, dear Lord, should I lie to this person and call this man a she so I can feed into this delusion that is chopping off the healthy breath of young women that you purposely and perfectly made female. Oh Lord, should I lie to this person, the hopes that confirming and affirming and

Starting point is 00:27:53 then celebrating their sin is somehow going to bring them to the foot of the cross that somehow I can disagree with you and make you sound more appealing to the world? Please give me discernment. Thank you. I mean, that is like asking God to please bless this Cain's to the nourishment of our bodies. Like, okay, it's probably, it probably just doesn't work like that. So I take issue with that language, period. So crew staff and volunteers are expected to use pronouns themselves. It says that align with their biological sex,

Starting point is 00:28:29 using a person's preferred name and pronouns can be a profound way, they say, listen to this. This is what Campus Crusade for Christ says. Using a person's preferred name and pronouns can be a profound way to demonstrate that you recognize them. and desire to show them respect. This is one helpful way to begin to build trust. Tell me, I wish that they could explain.

Starting point is 00:28:50 This is what I want to know. And people are never made to do this. Why is it respectful? Why is it respectful? Why is it disrespectful to call a man, he? Why is it disrespectful to call a woman she? Why is it disrespectful to say, look, God made you. Hey, this is Steve Deast.

Starting point is 00:29:07 If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts.

Starting point is 00:29:44 I hope you'll join us. Male or female in his image. That's what Genesis 1-27 says, that they weren't just made genderless in his image. They were made male and female in his image. So part of being made in God's image is the gender that God assigned you at conception. So I am not just affirming the person's gender by calling them the pronoun that corresponds with who they biologically are. I am affirming the Amago day in them.

Starting point is 00:30:09 When I am calling them by the pronoun that corresponds with the sex that God purposely and providentially gave them, assigned to them before time began. So basically what crew is saying is what so many so-called Christian organizations are saying here, is that we can actually win people over by disagreeing with God. That we'll kind of hide what God's word says. We'll take him off the hook, that mean guy over there who's so rudely and impolitely. and disrespectfully said that he made us male and female, we'll just kind of push that off to the side. We'll put that on the shelf for now, and we'll hope that by lying to someone,

Starting point is 00:30:49 by deluding someone about something so important, their identity that maybe we can gain enough rapport with them and win them to the cross of Christ. Remember when we had Laura Perry Small on, and she tried to transition so-called into a man, and the thing that brought her back was the truth telling of her parents, her parents and their Christian friends who refused to ever call her a man, who refused to ever say he.

Starting point is 00:31:19 Yeah, she was peeved. She was annoyed. There was temporary distance in their relationship because they wouldn't just unconditionally affirm her. But they continued to love her. They continued to reach out to her. They continued to call her daughter. And you know what eventually brought her back? It was God's word.

Starting point is 00:31:32 She was writing, she was helping her mom write a Bible study. Her mom asked her to help with this. And it was through writing God's word and reading God's word and seeing the truth. And then weighing that against her parents who were telling her the truth that actually brought her to a place of repentance. You will not bring someone to a place of repentance by lying. I promise you that. It's not polite. It's hateful.

Starting point is 00:32:00 It's hateful. and people think that being polite according to worldly standards is godlier than being godly. Is godlier than being biblical? That's crazy now. That's crazy now, crew. So, uh, campus crusade for Christ. That's a weak crusade, man. That's a weak crusade where you're basically acquiescing on one of the biggest and most

Starting point is 00:32:22 controversial, uh, controversial issues, uh, to the enemy. You're acquiescing to the enemy through that. So Rosario has something to say about all of this, this kind of faux compassion that we think is going to lead people to the Lord by just being a little bit worldlier. Here's what she has to say. Christian compassion for the sinners like the sinner I used to be means walking with them through the gritty battle of hating and fighting sin through the power of Christ and living for righteousness through His Holy Spirit. it. Christian compassion does not coddle, humanize, or domesticate sin. Christian compassion does not believe that man is more merciful than God. Christians do not encourage sinners to come out as gay or trans in order to be, quote-unquote, missional. This is a mission that leads everybody

Starting point is 00:33:16 to hell. And if you are a Christian whose indwelling sin is marked by sexual or gender confusion, I really do get it. I've made that case. But be warned, there is a particular way that empathy with people who sin in the same way that you do works against your sanctification and their salvation. Yep, absolutely. I think the exploitation of empathy has caused a lot of Christians to compromise. A lot of Christians to believe just as she said that we are more merciful than God,

Starting point is 00:33:51 that we're better and more loving and wiser than him i think that's what i took away from andy stanley's sermon last week you can go back and listen to my commentary on that that he actually believes that he knows a little bit better than the god of the universe on what can actually attract people to the cross of christ here's the good news and we'll close out this segment but here's here's the great news and this is this is the good news okay the good news isn't that people understand you or people can empathize with you or that this is the one sin that you can't really be sanctified of and it's fine. Somehow you can find congruence between your sin and the Christian life. Here's the good news. And let me actually, let me actually cite it. I have a habit of

Starting point is 00:34:32 speaking scripture, of saying scripture without actually saying the reference. You'll remember that Andy Stanley, something that he said last week and something that I think that Rosaria is pointing out here that this is a different kind of temptation because it's not just how you feel it's not just what you do it is who you are this is a different kind of temptation as andy stanley said he is he said it is in a category onto itself LGBTQ and we talked about some scriptures that uh buck against that like first corinthian six that uh that you were engaged in sexual sin you were uh you were greedy you were thieves you are all kinds of sinners, such were some of you, but you are washed and sanctified by Jesus Christ, that is true for all of us. But here is good news in 1 Corinthians 1013. This is the truth that

Starting point is 00:35:24 completely contradicts what Andy Stanley, a very influential Christian teacher said in his sermon. 1 Corinthians 1013, no temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. No temptation. You're not special. Your temptation is not special. Your struggle is not special. Your feelings, your confusion about your identity and who you are is not special. It's not different. And that's not mean. That should be really good news. You're not alone. No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful. And he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability. But with the temptation, he will also provide the way of escape that you may be able to endure it.

Starting point is 00:36:13 Something else that Andy Stanley said in the sermon that we commented on last week is that some men who call themselves homosexual, they may live a chaste life for years or for all their lives, but for many that's not sustainable, he said. So they choose to engage in what he called a gay marriage. That completely contradicts what God's word says, that he is faithful. God is faithful to you. and that he will provide the way of escape for you that you may be able to endure whatever temptation you face and there is no temptation that has overtaken you that is not common to man and God is faithful.

Starting point is 00:36:57 Isn't that good news? Scripture also says that, and I'm going to make sure that I have this reference right as well, Hebrews 415. For we do not have a high priest, Jesus, who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are yet without sin. Isn't that good news that you're not special? Your sin, your feelings of sexual confusion aren't special. They're not special.

Starting point is 00:37:31 You can resist that sin. You are called to deny that sin. You can deny that sin. you can resist that sin by the power of the Holy Spirit. The Spirit is really strong. Jesus died for that sin. If Jesus died for that sin, then His Holy Spirit can give you the power to resist that sin. And again, your feelings are not who you are.

Starting point is 00:37:55 It's not your identity. If you have been bought with a price, if you are a Christian, you are a new creation. The old has gone. The new has come. That is who you are now. You are a child of God now and you have the strength. You have the ability to live a life of holiness. We will always be tempted. We will always struggle. We will always be battling in our mind, in our hearts against the temptations and against the struggles and the sinful desires that all of us have. And in glory, we will no longer have those temptations anymore. Yes and amen. But you do have the power to resist those things and to battle against those things. Praise, praise, praise, praise God.

Starting point is 00:38:36 Okay, there were a ton of other things I wanted to talk about today. Maybe I'll be able to talk about it tomorrow. I wanted to talk about that story of Mr. Beast, the YouTuber that we've talked about before. He built 100 wells in Africa and people are mad about it. So I want to talk about that. Also want to make sure that we talk about a couple stories that I've seen floating around on Twitter that are never, ever, ever going to get the mainstream attention that they should get. And they are young men dying.

Starting point is 00:39:13 Well, one is young man. One is an older man being murdered. by a gang of thugs. We don't know the motivation behind it, but I do know that it's not going to get the cries of lament and repentance that would happen if the races were reversed, certainly not by evangelicals who claim to want to seek justice and love mercy. They seem to only shine a light on certain kinds of stories that push a certain kind of narrative. And that really bothers me because as Christians, we are called it impartiality, especially when it comes to justice. So anyway, I want to talk about those stories. I don't have time for it today. I'll talk about those stories tomorrow.

Starting point is 00:39:50 I want to end on maybe a little bit of a lighter note. It's actually ridiculous, but it's also really sad this whole story, but it kind of goes into what Rosaria was talking about. Like this person that we are about to talk about, she needs to be told the truth of the gospel and led to repentance because she is absolutely burdened by the lies that she believes. So this is, this video was first posted by the Daily Caller on November 2nd. So a woman is pulled over. Maybe you saw it on Twitter for going in the wrong direction on a road. When the officer pulls her over, he smells alcohol. He puts her through the standard sobriety test.

Starting point is 00:40:23 She repeatedly uses her indigenous, non-binary, and mentally ill status to push back against the cop who is patient throughout the encounter. And we're going to leave. I think I'm going to stop and start the clip or say like, okay, let's pause or whatever so that Bree and I can comment on it. Also, I want our mics up while we're playing this. so you and our faces up so you can see our reaction and also we'll try to we might have some commentary along along the way all right uh let's go ahead and uh check out our girl who is having

Starting point is 00:40:57 I guess what she considered a fun night as an indigenous person right back here please has miss Perry the most I'm non-binary so okay what do you go by this Kai how can I refer to you tonight? Kai? Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. I'm small alcohol. I know. How much have you consumed tonight? Like probably through Jane. I need to run you through some tests right now.

Starting point is 00:41:25 Stan facing me, please. But I just want you know that I also have very bad social anxiety. You and me both. As you know, as a indigenous person and there's a bunch of shit going around. What? I'm sorry. What is it? It's just for me to be on my toes.

Starting point is 00:41:40 I get you. She's got me on her toes. She's got me on her toes. I'm non-binary. I'm non-binary. Yeah, I'll try my hardest. I'll refer to you as Kai, right? He keeps on your man.

Starting point is 00:41:50 I need to know if you have any injuries or anything that would prevent you from doing a standard walk or turn tonight. Mental health. Any physical injuries? Mental, yeah. Mental, mental, physical. Place it in front of your left in a heeled toe touching manner with your arms by your side. Just like this, ma'am. Can you not call me ma'am, please?

Starting point is 00:42:10 I'm trying my hardest. He's trying to laugh. It means a lot to me. I'm trying my hardest. I don't feel like a man, so. Okay. It's kind of triggering. Right foot in front of your left. Nope, go back. I'm sorry with the whole man thing. Just like...

Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah. I apologize. Let's see if we can move forward from it. You have zero questions? I just want to tell you that I suffer from really bad anxiety, especially with generational trauma and PTSD around white people and cops. I'm going to speak with you right over here, okay? Yes, ma'am. Go ahead and play your hands. Bind you back. Don't, dude. Don't make it hard. Don't make it hard. No.

Starting point is 00:42:53 You're going to get a resist. Dude, I. I don't. Don't resist. Don't. She has nothing to say. Don't resist. Don't.

Starting point is 00:43:04 You're being a white man and don't. I fall at all. Okay. So. You're being a white man. You're being a white man. So she's just totally slashed. She's wasted.

Starting point is 00:43:24 And you can tell by how she's talking. And obviously that's why she's getting arrested. And we couldn't play the whole thing. It's long. In the very beginning, he pulls her over. And he's like, he's like, um, did you know? He's so nice. He's so polite.

Starting point is 00:43:36 He could not be nicer. And he's like, did you know you're going the wrong direction on the road? And she's like, I just got changed around. For a non-binary person, she is amazingly feminine. Yeah. Yeah, true. A little baby voice comes out. Such little baby boys.

Starting point is 00:43:58 Yeah, I think she couldn't decide whether she wanted to be a damsel in distress or a non-binary Antifa warrior. Yeah. Yeah. She's not good at either. And the spirit of her indigenous ancestors fighting against the white man. And ancestral trauma or generational trauma. That's what she said. I'm definitely going to use that.

Starting point is 00:44:18 I'm going to use that next time. I am pulled over or something. Yeah. Generational trauma. Could you give me a minute? I'm traumatized. generationally. Yeah, my great grandmother, she also got pulled over by the cops. And it's just stuck with us. I am still dealing with that trauma 75 years later. So if you could just

Starting point is 00:44:43 excuse me. Like so her thought was that he should just definitely let me keep driving. Yeah. The wrong way. The wrong way. Yeah. And that I will be fine. I hope that you don't think you like got disciplined. Oh, I hope not. For misgendered. He genuinely could not have been nicer. I don't think I've ever seen a video of a cop that nice to someone who deserves so much to be arrested.

Starting point is 00:45:06 I know. You know? Honestly, I think that she deserves to be arrested just for the things that she said. Yeah, just straight to jail. That violates. That honestly, I'm not sure that she should get First Amendment rights. You don't get First Amendment rights for saying things like generational trauma. I'm kidding.

Starting point is 00:45:23 I'm kidding. guys, I'm kidding. Calm down. Oh my gosh. So funny. But also sad. Very sad. Now, the thing I believe is that she has mental health issues. Yes. I believe that. Oh, 100%. 100% for sure. And apparently she has manifested in her mind physical problems as well. Yeah. He was like, do you have any physical reason that you can't walk this line or can't like listen to me? Mental. Mentally. Mental. Mentally. In my mind, I do. I do. No, it actually does. It makes me very sad because, okay, these are the people that are like dictating corporate policy and are pushing public policy, like this kind of person. Yeah. Oh my gosh.

Starting point is 00:46:10 Yeah. We are absolutely screwed if we go to war. Screwed. I mean, it's really sad. How did we end up like this? How did we get a generation of people like this? don't I don't know. I'm sad. I'm sad for her. But it also, it made me laugh a little bit. Like, she put all of our favorite sayings into, like, one police interaction. I will say A for

Starting point is 00:46:32 effort. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've never tried. I've never been that creative. Have you ever gotten pulled over? No. I knew that you were going to say that. Wow. Oh, actually, I, I lied. I lied. I did. I did because I forgot to turn my headlights on once. I'm a good driver. So what was your excuse? What did you say? Oh, I grovel. I'm like, I'm so sorry. I'm so. Sorry. I'm so sorry. I know. Did you get a ticket or a warning? He gave me a warning. Okay. That's good. Because I almost was crying. I got and pulled over a lot for speeding. For speeding. Yeah. Yeah. That's always speeding. I just feel like, and this is what my husband says because he's, um, so I'm from Texas and I think that everything should be 60 miles an hour. And my husband says that that's not why that's why I'm a bad driver because I'm always going 60 miles an hour, whether. it's the speed limit is 70 or 45 and he is a good driver he's from Georgia I don't know maybe Georgians are better drivers I'm from Texas and so I don't know we just have competing driving

Starting point is 00:47:37 styles but I think 60 miles an hour is a really great speed limit and I have a hard time going under that so I've gotten pulled over a lot that's just the speed limit yeah but I don't I don't give any excuse but now I've got a whole I've got a whole list of excuses that I could possibly I think that's all we've got time for today. Like I said, so many other things that I wanted to talk about that we will get to tomorrow. And as always, if you've got subjects that you guys want me to react to, talk about, please send those my way. Next week is Thanksgiving. I don't know if I'm the only one who feels like Thanksgiving has crept up on me.

Starting point is 00:48:28 It's crazy to me. I feel like it should be two weeks from now and it's next week. That's just wild. But I'm super excited about the holidays. I hope you guys are too. And so we will have, I think, two episodes out next week, two new episodes out next week, Monday and Tuesday, the no episode on Wednesday and Thursday. I'm super excited about the episode that we have coming out on Monday. If it's long enough, it might be two parts. So it might be Monday Tuesday. But super excited about, it's about colonialism and the real history of Europe. And if we're just all these white evil colonizers. And so I'm super excited about that really interesting. conversation. So that is our, that's our Thanksgiving schedule. And we'll talk more about our Christmas schedule soon. Also, just a reminder, we've got amazing relatable merch. Make sure that you get some merch.

Starting point is 00:49:17 There will be mugs one day, hopefully before Christmas. But we have a lot of other relatable merch that you can go to alleymerch.com. I think you can still use code Allie 10 for 10% off. But get your Relatedgal in your life some merch. I'm wearing some right now. It's nice and stitched in there. It's really cute. This would be a good Christmas color. too. All right. That's all we got time for today. Don't forget to also see the blind also by my friends. The Robertsons, this is about Phil's testimony and his and Ms. Kay's early marriage and what that was like. Very volatile life that they had before Christ, but then he came to Christ and obviously has just transformed so much. And what Jesus has done in and through him is just amazing. So very encouraging, very uplifting.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 908 | Calling Out Cru’s LGBTQ Compromise

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