Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 917 | Boomer Grandparents vs. Millennial Parents

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.

Starting point is 00:00:19 We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. A new rule implemented by the Biden administration will make it nearly impossible for Christian adoption agencies to function in alignment with their beliefs on sex and gender. Also, millennial parents are complaining that their parents, the boomer grandparents, aren't around. Is there anything to this? Also, Bree is going to test my knowledge of Gin Z vocabulary at the end of this episode and you don't want to miss it. This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Go to GoToD Ranchers.com. Use code Allie at checkout.

Starting point is 00:01:17 That's GoToToRanchors.com. Code Allie. Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. day. I hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far. Uh, Bree, did you have a good weekend? Yeah. It was great. Good. Didn't really do much, but it was great. Relaxing. Have you listening to Christmas music? Actually, no, which is weird because I'm a big Christmas person, but I haven't really. Yeah. We have a little bit. I still haven't decorated that much in our house because we're getting a lot of things updated, which is just a just such a stressful crazy process. So I feel like I don't even know if I'm going to. We're also going to be out of town.

Starting point is 00:02:06 So you don't know if you're going to at all to decorate. I mean, I'll listen to Christmas music, but we have lights on our house. That's funny. And our Christmas tree is up, but there's no ornaments right now. Well, there's been people. I know. There's been people painting and yeah, I don't know. You have one here. You have one behind you. That's true. If y'all are watching on YouTube, we have decorated the relatable set for Christmas. So, yeah. I think that, I think that counts. Yeah, I do love Christmas, but I have like only one box of Christmas decorations. I'm not like the most extravagant person.

Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah. Yeah. Does Taylor Swift's a Christmas album? Yes, mate. I actually don't know. I think so. Swifty. Some Swiftie trivia that you don't know.

Starting point is 00:02:54 Okay, we've got a lot to talk about today. We're going to bring Bree in several times to talk about the various subjects that we've got. But first, I want to talk about this very serious and I think very sad story that we've talked about before, but it's being reported on again. And that is the difficulty that Christian families have in adopting and fostering because of our views. Views that not just Christians have held for thousands of years, but people around the world have held for millennia. And also that most of the world still holds today on gender and sexuality, this radical idea. that marriage is between a man and a woman, this radical idea, the boys are boys and girls are girls, that's not something that you can change by way of declaration or any kind of

Starting point is 00:03:40 medical procedure. For these views, Christian families are being told you cannot foster, you cannot adopt. So this is from the Washington Examiner. The Biden administration's Department of Health and Human Services has proposed a rule that would prevent states from using child adoption agencies, most of them faith-based, that do not accept that, the LGBTQ ideology for children. The proposed rule was published September 28th was then open for public comment. The comment period closed on November 27th. So it's done.

Starting point is 00:04:13 The Biden administration is saying that these faith-based adoption agencies, most of the adoption agencies are faith-based. They were established by Christians a long time ago. If they do not accept the idea that you can change genders, that we should be chemically castrating boys and cutting the healthy breasts off of teenage girls who say that they're boys, then they can't receive state funding. Now, you'll also remember, or maybe you don't, we covered this when it happened probably about a year ago. There was another rule announced that said that the Biden administration

Starting point is 00:04:48 will no longer allow government funding for lunches in low-income public schools if these public schools establish any rules that protect gender-specific bathrooms. And so unless these schools allow boys into girls' bathrooms, they will not be eligible to receive the free lunches for low-income students. That's what the Biden administration has established. We can link information to that in the description of this episode so you know that I'm not making it up. And now they are going after these Christian adoption agencies. So let's talk about this a little bit more. The safe and appropriate foster care placement requirements. So already we've got the dystopian language, safe and appropriate foster care placement

Starting point is 00:05:36 requirements rule. By safe and appropriate, what they mean is that as an adoption agency or as foster parents and adoptive parents, you have to be okay with injecting children with opposite sex hormones. That's neither safe nor appropriate in any case ever. Here's what it says. The administration for children and families, part of DHS, proposes to specify the steps agencies must take when implementing the case plan and case review requirements for children and foster care who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer or questioning,

Starting point is 00:06:11 intersex, as well as children who are non-binary. Children who are non-binary. Gosh, we live in a horrible time, malicious time when it comes to this. Have non-conforming gender identity or expression. Now I just want to remind you that these things don't exist. There's no such thing as a queer child. There's no such thing as a trans child. There's no such thing as a bisexual child. These are all labels that adults, perverse adults, have placed on children to justify their own strange proclivities and identities. Children are not transgender. They can't be the opposite sex. I mean, adults aren't either, by the way. It's not possible to be the opposite sex. You can declare yourself anything that you want to. It's not possible to transition into the other

Starting point is 00:07:04 gender. But children, in particular, are completely unable of even having the concept of being the opposite sex. Yes, there is real actual, I don't even want to call it after my interview yesterday. I don't want to call it gender dysphoria. I forgot what she was. I forgot what She said that she should actually call it. But there is a real instance, a very rare instance of young children having intense discomfort with their gender. It's mostly boys, but that's a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage. This idea that there is this huge number of, quote, trans children that need to be affirmed in their transness. It is absolutely a disgusting lie pushed by perverts and people who make money from creating slaves to the medical industrial.

Starting point is 00:07:54 complex. But this apparently is safe and appropriate for children according to the Biden administration. Under the proposed rule, each state must ensure that the totality of their child welfare system includes sufficient placements for LGBTQI plus children that meet the proposed standards of safe and appropriate care. So to be considered safe and appropriate, here's how they're defining this in this dystopian way. To be considered safe and appropriate placement for these children means the provider within the agency places the child will establish an environment free of hostility, mistreatment, or abuse based on the child's LGBTIQI plus status. Now, you might hear that and say, okay, well, yeah, of course.

Starting point is 00:08:33 We don't want children to be mistreated or abused. Of course, I agree with that. Is that happening in these Christian adoption agencies? Is this happening at these Christian homes? Let's see, how they define that? How did they define hostility? How did they define mistreatment? So here's what it says.

Starting point is 00:08:52 The provider will facilitate the child. access to age appropriate resources, services, and activities that support their health and well-being if the child wishes to access those resources, services, and activities. And what exactly is meant by that? What is meant by that, of course, is activities, resources, medical processes that quote-unquote affirm this idea that a child can be the opposite sex. This is what the rule also says. The LGBTQI plus youth are over-representing. in the child welfare system because of a confluence of factors, ooh, let's just like pause and think of that.

Starting point is 00:09:29 Let's let that simmer for a second. LGBTQI plus youth, I don't even know what all that means, are overrepresented in the child welfare system. Why would that be? Just take a pause and think about that. What the destabilization and the trauma in their lives, what that could have done to contribute to children's confusion about their sexual, sexuality and about their gender.

Starting point is 00:09:56 Studies suggest that many LGBTQI plus youth face higher rates of parental physical abuse and are more likely to run away from home or be kicked out, often because of conflict over their sexual orientation or gender identity. These experiences place LGBTQI plus youth at greater risk of entering foster care. All of this is just a fancy and empathy shaming, empathy manipulation way to, say that Christians are not fit to foster and adopt children because they won't affirm this radical idea of gender ideology. 19, state attorneys general submitted comments opposing this rule, arguing that it fails to

Starting point is 00:10:51 acknowledge the importance of faith-based organizations in the foster care system discriminates on the basis of religion and creates further harm for foster children and states trying to help them. So these were the attorneys general of Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and West Virginia. If you are part of a Republican state and you did not hear your state on that list, you should try to contact your attorney general and ask them why they did not submit comments to oppose this rule. So here's what they said,

Starting point is 00:11:24 and I think that we should listen to this closely. This proposed rule seeks to accomplish indirectly what the Supreme Court found unconstitutional just two years ago, remove faith-based providers from the foster care system if they will not conform their religious beliefs on sexual orientation and gender identity. They're referring to Fulton v. City of Philadelphia. That's exactly what's going on here. The Biden administration, the federal government would rather have kids languishing in foster care where they are actually more likely to get abused. That's where they are likely to get abused. Not in these loving Christian homes who just happened to say, yeah, we're not going to trans you when you're 13. sorry. They would rather these children be without parents, be continued to be traumatized,

Starting point is 00:12:09 continue to be destabilized, then put them in through a Christian adoption agency that would place them with a loving home or place them with a Christian family who would love them very much and maybe show them love for the first time in their lives. Now, I'm not saying that there are no bad foster families. Even foster families who may call themselves Christians may be bad foster families. I'm not saying that that is not possible. Of course it is. However, the terrible stories that I have heard about parents adopting kids and fostering kids who have ended up abusing them have not been from Christian families. Again, I'm sure it happens, but you will recall that story that we talked about last year of those two men, two gay men, who went through a Christian

Starting point is 00:12:58 adoption agency to adopt two boys and ended up sex trafficking the two boys. Now, unfortunately, those men aren't going to get the death penalty. They should get the death penalty. It's not on the table. It can't be on the table for that crime. But I think that they should. It's absolutely horrific. But the Biden administration is not interested in looking into that case or cracking down on things like that. What they're interested in is making sure that Christian families, who are some of the only families even willing to take these children in are unable to adopt unless they completely renounce their fundamental Christian beliefs on sex and gender. This is also what the Attorney's General say.

Starting point is 00:13:39 The foster care system depends on individuals and organizations of faith. An LGBT research organization reported that 40% of government contracted child placement agencies are religiously affiliated. So what exactly is going to happen if those are unable to operate? or they have to bend their core beliefs. Foster parents who are recruited through a church or other religious organization foster children are 2.6 years longer than the average foster parent. Practicing Christians are three times more likely to seriously consider fostering

Starting point is 00:14:10 than the general population, of course, because this is what Christians do. It's what Christians have always done. It's what we've always led the way on. From our very inception, we have been a refuge for children and for children. women for the most vulnerable. I'm not saying that there haven't been sinful and evil people who have abused, of course, in the name of Christ. We consider those people not Christian at all, but the church, the bride of Christ, has been the refuge, the revolutionizing refuge in society for all of its history and its defense and its care for the widow and the orphan. That is what the church does. That

Starting point is 00:14:47 is the pure religion that Christians are called through the power of the Holy Spirit too. So of course, more likely than the general population to foster and to adopt. And the Biden administration is making it near impossible for Christians to practice their faith sincerely and to do that and to care for these orphans because the Biden administration is more concerned that boys can be chemically castrated if they say that they're sally by the age of 10, then they are these children having loving homes with parents who may happen to be Christian. Okay, let me just say this again. and I've said it before. But Christians have no business, no business voting for Joe Biden.

Starting point is 00:15:30 No business voting for Democrats in general. Absolutely none. This is not nuanced. It's not complicated. Yes, both sides have their problems. That's true. No side is perfect. Jesus is not a Republican or Democrat.

Starting point is 00:15:48 I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that your salvation is contingent upon who you vote for or what party you're affiliated with. I am just saying the simple fact of the matter is that Christians should not be voting Democrat. There is no reason for it. The party of mutilating children's bodies through abortion and through gender transition should never, ever, ever be supported by a Christian, ever. There's no reason for it. If you say, well, they're doing some other girls. good things. They're helping the poor. No, they're not. Oh, well, they're helping the migrant. No, they're not. They're working to end racism. No, they're not. They're fighting for equality and

Starting point is 00:16:26 democracy. No, they're not. They're not. That's, again, it's not complicated. It's not nuanced. You've just been lied to and you've believed it. There's no reason for a Christian to vote Democrat. Now, you don't have to vote Republican. I'm not saying that. I think Republicans have a big problem of cowardice of not being conservative enough. I would love the Republican Party to be much more conservative, much more courageous, much more biblical than they are. So I'm certainly not saying that the Republican Party is salvific in any way. You can choose not to vote. I disagree with that. But you could choose that. You can choose to vote for third party. I probably disagree with that, but I understand that calculation. There is no, no calculation that the Christian can make that will

Starting point is 00:17:09 point to voting Democrat in good conscience. You can't. You can't do it in good conscience. Well, if you can't, there's something really deep going on there. Again, the party of child mutilation, whether through gender transition or abortion, should never, ever, ever, ever be supported in any way by a Christian. Now, some of you have said while you live in these very blue areas and you have to vote between like a more conservative Democrat and like the communist Democrat. Okay, maybe there, maybe there are some exceptions somewhere. out there. I don't know. I guess it depends on what the Democrat stands for. But especially when it comes to Biden, it is, oh my gosh, you have been so completely

Starting point is 00:17:56 deluded and duped if you think that there is any way that you can square your Christian faith with voting for Biden. There's none. It's evil. Evil what this administration stands for and fights for. You know, we talked about this when we had a mom on. named Jessica Bates. We had her on in May, and we'll link that episode in the description. So you can go listen to it. But she's in Oregon, and she is a Christian mom, and she's looking to adopt children in the state of Oregon. And she was denied because of her Christian faith, because of what she believes about sex and gender.

Starting point is 00:18:41 And she sued, saying that she's being discriminated against. because of her religion and unfortunately the judge ruled against her. So she will not be able to adopt. This was November 14th. The judge ruled against Jessica saying that she cannot adopt because her religious beliefs conflict with state adoption policies. That apparently she has a lack of understanding about the unique support and care that LGBTQ children require.

Starting point is 00:19:09 Now, mind you, she was not trying to adopt specifically LGBTQ children. They said you can't adopt at all just in case someone that you adopt may decide that they're LGBTQ one day and you have to be okay with quote unquote gender affirming care. They said, sorry, you can't adopt it all. So again, the state of Oregon would rather children remain orphaned than having a loving foster mom who would maybe show them loving care and stability for the first time. I want to play you a clip from the episode of Jessica explaining her story. Here it is.

Starting point is 00:19:44 my certifier ended up calling me and kind of just walking through hypothetical situations. And the one that she specifically brought up was, okay, well, you have a child in your care who would like to transition and needs to go have hormone shots. Will you drive this child to their hormone appointments? And I told her no. I believe that our gender is something sacred. And not only that, I think I said, I think that's child abuse. that it's just you're not affirming a person for who they really are basically.

Starting point is 00:20:19 And she basically said, well, we're basically going to pull your application and put it on pause. If you change your mind, then we can put it back into circulation. And I even said, so in the whole state of Oregon, you're telling me there's not a sibling pair that doesn't have gender confusion issues or gender dysphoria that we could take into our home. And she said, well, that's not. really the point because even if we did allow that years down the road, they could change their mind and develop these issues and you're not going to be supportive in, you know, taking them to these appointments and things. So she basically let me know that it was basically going to be

Starting point is 00:21:00 pulled and everything. And then about two months after that phone call, I got the official letter of denial from the state. Yep. So they sued. She and aligns to fitting freedom. I love alliance depending freedom. They're doing such good work. And the judge ruled against her. Can't be a Christian and adopt and foster in states like Oregon. Again, why would a Christian ever vote Democrat? There are 5,600 kids estimated in the state of Oregon in the foster care system.

Starting point is 00:21:33 And of all of those, of all of those 5,600 kids, apparently there is not a single one who would be safe in the care of Jessica because she wouldn't drive. you know, a 12-year-old kid to go get hormone shots at the local Planned Parenthood. Evil. Evil. And we shouldn't support it. In fact, we should do everything possible to speak up against it. It's not even for, we're not even standing up for Christian foster parents when we're standing up against this.

Starting point is 00:22:04 I mean, we can be. That's fine. We're not standing up for ourselves. Like, we're standing up for the kids. We're standing up for the kids who need loving homes. We're standing up for the kids who need stability. We're standing up for the kids who need to be placed somewhere that is going to show them care. But I don't know.

Starting point is 00:22:21 The government seems to have an incentive in keeping these kids parentless, confused, destabilized, vulnerable to abuse, which they are in foster care. It's really, really wicked. And I just want to say, again, there is no reason for Christian to ever vote Democrat. And I will not apologize for saying that. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political.

Starting point is 00:22:51 They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over

Starting point is 00:23:12 chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Okay, I want to move on to this conversation that we've had quite a few times on Instagram before. Maybe we've talked about it on the podcast too. And that is the complaint that I hear a lot of my millennial friends or millennial followers and listeners lodge. And And that is that their parents, their kids' grandparents, aren't willing to spend enough time with their grandkids or help out with their grandkids. And, you know, this is something that we've talked about before when it comes to the older generation's use of their cell phones and use of technology. You think, oh, it's just the younger generations that have an obsession with it.

Starting point is 00:24:17 But I would say it's also the older generations too. And let me just, before we get into this, before we get into this, let me just say that I, I am extremely spoiled. My husband and I are extremely spoiled because both my parents and my in-laws, we rely on them so much and I'm so thankful for them. So I am not talking about them. They all listen to this podcast and you all are amazing and help us so much. But I am talking about a general trend of baby boomer grandparents

Starting point is 00:24:48 feeling like, you know what? I've already done my part when it comes to raising kids. kids and I don't really feel like extending that anymore. And now I realize that this is like a real thing. It's not just you guys talking about that to me. This is something that apparently is a problem among a lot of millennials, so they say. This was reported by the New York Post. This is the headline.

Starting point is 00:25:14 Millennials feel abandoned by parents not available to help raise grandkids, colon, too busy. Some millennial parents say they feel abandoned. by their baby boomer parents who have chosen to travel in their retirement rather than stay home and help raise their grandchildren. Business Insider found. And they give a lot of different examples of that. What millennials want is regular, stable, consistent support in terms of emotional support. Child care is super expensive in a way that it never has been and it feels more necessary than ever because of workplace demands. So I think that is a lot of the frustration. That's what

Starting point is 00:25:49 one person said. But I'll give my own interpretation of this. Because look, I see both sides. I know that I have a lot of baby boomers who listen to this and you're going to get defensive. I know because I've already gotten a lot of your messages on Instagram. Now, some of you have said, as baby boomers, you've said, oh my gosh, I see this too among my friends. I don't understand it. I am with my grandkids and my kids all the time. I absolutely love it. This is what I'm made for and I help as much as I possibly can. But then another set of you are angry. Like I got one message from, you said, you She said she was 70 years old and she said, you know what? I didn't have any help. My grandparents didn't help. My parents didn't help with my kids. I did it all on my own and my kids need to do it all on their own too. I did my time.

Starting point is 00:26:37 They need to raise their kids. Okay. I personally think that is an awful mentality. An awful mentality. A terrible mentality. That is not how the world has worked for most of history. First of all, people use. to have kids a lot younger. And so they would have kids, say, when they were 20 years old,

Starting point is 00:26:58 and then maybe their parents would only be 40 years old. So they still had a lot of vitality in them to help out. A lot of generations have lived together. This is still true in most of the non-American, non-Western world. And so there was a lot of help in the home because there was intergenerational help. Yes, grandparents were around to help. Yes, aunts and uncles and cousins and sisters and brothers were around to help. But because of this idea of the nuclear family, that our family is only mom, dad, children and everyone else has to be kind of pushed to the side, we have this erroneous and I think really harmful idea that or at least like a lot of boomer grandparents do that they've served their time and that their role is done, that their work is

Starting point is 00:27:44 done, that their kids don't need them. And also, I think a lot of millennials have been like, I'm setting up my boundaries. I don't want help from my in-laws. I don't want help from my parents. I don't want them to come over. They need to do all of these things and have this list of rules. And so it's created this very troublesome situation where a lot of millennials feel, a lot of millennial parents feel like they don't have enough help and don't have enough support. I don't think that we as millennial parents should take our parents for granted. I don't think that we should just assume that they are going to be at our beck and call and that every time we need something, that they are going to drop everything and be there

Starting point is 00:28:30 all the time. And I don't think that's what millennials are expecting. I don't think that's what, I don't think that's what a lot of my friends and a lot of parents my age are saying. And I think they're just saying, hey, like, I want you to be around my kids. I would love for you to babysit if you can. We feel better. about, you know, parents babysitting than a babysitter. And, hey, like, this is another complaint that you guys have told me that you don't want your parents to be on their phones constantly when they're with your kids or just, like, give your kids like, you know, some kind of tech device to satiate them. Like, this is, this is a big tension, I think, between the boomer and

Starting point is 00:29:13 millennial generations that's going on. And I do think that. That's, I do think that. I think that kids really miss out when they're not around their grandparents. Grandparents have a lot of wisdom to offer. They have a lot of experiences that they can give their grandchildren. And when grandparents aren't around, they miss out on that. And that is going to be unique for this generation. Again, one, because I think parents are having kids later and so their parents are a lot older when they're having kids.

Starting point is 00:29:47 but also because boomer grandparents today are a lot busier. They're a lot busier than grandparents in generations past. I mean, some of the stories that you guys have sent me have been really sad that, like, you got pregnant and your parents and your in-laws, they found that out and then they moved. And some of you have told me that you live close to your parents, your kids' grandparents, and they like refuse to babysit. They refuse to come over. They refuse to help.

Starting point is 00:30:15 They have this mentality of. like, okay, I'm free, I'm busy, I'm traveling, I'm going to do whatever I want to, good luck, have fun, okay, you know, it's their right to do that. I think that's the wrong way to do it. I think that there's a lot of regret and a lot of, you know, someone told me that millennials complained about this is entitled. I think it's a very entitled mentality to say, well, I did my raisin and now my grandkids don't need me. I'm not going to help at all. I just think that's a really awful and self-centered mentality. But at the same time, of course, there's a balance. Of course, millennial kids have to respect their parents' rest, their alone time, the margin that they need, the energy that they have to have. Of course, I think there's consideration there. But there also has to be some consideration on the part of the grandparents. And also, like, I do just want to give a shout out, again, my parents and my in-laws,

Starting point is 00:31:09 but to all of you grandparents out there who do so much, who sacrifice so much for your kids and grandkids, like, you make such a difference. You make such a difference in their lives. But it is interesting to see this phenomenon among the baby boomer, like tech-obsessed, busy, obsessed generation. It's very, very interesting. And we'll see the consequences of that, I think, long-term. Okay, I wanted to talk about one other thing or a couple other things that I've been thinking about that have changed for me as I've become a parent that I think is different than how my parents raised me. And I want to see what Bree thinks about this. Brey doesn't have kids yet, but I wanted to get her, I wanted to see what she thinks about that. And we can kind

Starting point is 00:31:56 of compare and contrast what we, what we think versus a mom, a mom versus someone who is not yet a mom. And one of the things that's changed for me is that I am okay with the idea. My husband and I've talked about this recently. And we have three girls, so maybe it's different girls versus boys. But we are okay with our kids living with us as long as they want to when they're adults. Yes, we want them to be productive and responsible, take care of themselves, not expect for us to do everything for them when they're adults incapable. But I don't see anything wrong with adults who are hardworking and responsible, but trying to save money, feel safer at home with their parents staying there until they get married or until they want to are ready to move out.

Starting point is 00:32:47 This idea of just like kicking your kids out when they're 18, I used to think that way, totally. I would have never moved in with my parents after high school or after college. But now I see things totally differently. What do you think? Yeah, I actually had the same experience. And I was raised with kind of the, I don't know if they ever explicitly said it, but the thinking was when you turn 18, you leave and you go and you start your adult life, whether it's college or

Starting point is 00:33:15 whatever. For us, it was college. And that's just kind of what I believed. And then I think maybe five or six years later, my dad made it very clear that he had changed his mind on that and that he regretted kind of that mentality of trying to push us out because you don't get that time back. And so now he's very, he's like, if any, we're older now. obviously, and he's like, if any of you needed to come home, like, of course you could live with us. So I agree with you. I don't like, if I had kids who were nearing that age, I also wouldn't mind them staying, especially everything's so expensive. It's not like they're going to be able to like go buy a house, you know? So it's just different, I think, than it was when the last

Starting point is 00:34:03 generation was kicking their kids out of their house. Yeah. So, but yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it is about balance and you want your kids to be motivated to like make something of themselves. But yeah, I totally agree with you. Yeah, I think there's a difference between a failure to launch and staying home because it's like the more responsible thing to do. Yeah. Someone pointed out in my message is on Instagram that like this also protects us girls and boys, but from potentially bad situations. Like 22, yeah, maybe we should be, you know, super mature and making good decisions, but you're still kind of stupid. And you can put yourself in just bad situations, whether you're still in the college mentality,

Starting point is 00:34:44 or you're going places where you shouldn't, getting into romantic relationships that you shouldn't. I think living at home just does offer a layer of protection during that very vulnerable and formative time in your life, not to live in a bubble, not to insulate you from reality, but it's just another layer to protect you from the craziness of the world. You've got the rest of your life to figure out how difficult it is to be an adult. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. And like you said, I'm not a parent yet.

Starting point is 00:35:16 So it's not like I have an abundance of wisdom and parenting. But I do think that there's probably, like for parents, they probably have to have the discernment to know, like, is my kid just kind of free writing here? And how much like should I be pushing them? Because I know people who do need to be pushed out of their house. Yeah. They need to be pushed to go get a job. For me, when I was 18, I was, like, ready. I was like, I'm ready to live on my own.

Starting point is 00:35:44 And I don't necessarily regret that. But now I see the value in, like, you know, if I needed to stay, then. Yeah. Yeah. And I didn't have that much time between college and marriage. I had, like, a year and some change. But I also was ready. Like, I went to school.

Starting point is 00:36:04 I grew up in Texas and I went to school in South Carolina and I just wanted to be, I love my parents. I have a great relationship with them, but I wanted to be in a new place. I wanted to not know anyone actually. Like I wanted to be in a new city and a new college and I didn't know a soul at all. And I loved that. Like I thought that it was great. Most of my friends went to school at the traditional Texas schools that most Texas people go to, which is awesome.

Starting point is 00:36:33 I just didn't want to do it. I wanted something new, and then I moved to another new city after college. And so everyone's different. And that was, you know, that was good for me. I met my husband, and then we got married when I was 23. And so obviously wouldn't have lived with my parents. But although there are some married couples that live with parents for whatever reason. But yeah, I don't regret it either.

Starting point is 00:36:56 But who knows what it's going to be like by the time our kids are 22? Yeah. And another thing is, I'm interested to see what you hear about this. or what you think about this is college. Like that was never a question for me. I was always going to go to college. Everyone was going to go to college. There was no question of whether I was going to go to college. Now I really don't care. I really don't care if my kids want to or not. Yeah. No, I'm, I very strongly believe. I went to a private secular school. And I would not send my kid there right now, knowing what I know about that school.

Starting point is 00:37:40 I don't know that I would send my kid to any secular school, to be honest, knowing what I know now. Yeah. And I am actually a big believer that for most jobs, you don't actually need to go to college. Yeah. There's some benefit in like the connections you might get at college. But unless it's something where you actually need a degree, like you can just start working. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:38:03 I mean, that's how I feel too. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I did study communications in college, so I guess you could say I'm applying it to what I'm doing, but I'm not sure if anything I learned in my classes, I'm applying. Just I think the college experience, there's something to that. Again, gaining independence while not fully being independent yet, having responsibilities that's not like having a job or, you know, the kind of job that you get after college.

Starting point is 00:38:33 But yeah, I feel totally different. I don't want to pay thousands of dollars to send my kids off to come back as communist for sure. That's the silliest thing that conservative parents do. I know. And, you know, I also used to be a huge snob about community college about people. Yeah, about the sort of track of doing like two years of community college and then going to a four year. No. In fact, in a lot of cases, it's like the much smarter thing to do, even if you get into a four-year college.

Starting point is 00:39:03 just financially. So yeah, I know I've rethought a lot of that because things have changed. Yeah. Obviously, universities have changed and yeah. Yeah. And you know what? It's really sad when you think about it because I remember that too in school, people making you feel like community college wasn't good enough. Yeah. Like you definitely shouldn't do that or that's something to be ashamed of, which is it's sad because you think about maybe the kids who would have benefited from doing that and then they didn't because they were ashamed to do it. There's no shame in that at all. Like you said, it's actually probably the smarter choice for a lot of people. Yeah. Or, you know, you could go to a college where you're spending $50,000 a year. Immediately you're cutting out $100,000 of debt,

Starting point is 00:39:47 you know, if you do two years of community college. So it's, yeah, I think it's silly to just think about it in terms of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very different. And also, like, I just think different about, like, careers and things like that. I mean, I certainly was raised in a conservative Christian home, but I was definitely told, like I definitely anticipated working always. And like, I have, you know, a wonderful job where I have a lot of flexibility and get to do what I love. But I was definitely taught from an early age, like that that I'm going to go to college and I'm going to work. And which is funny. But again, baby boomer is just a different, you know, their parents, we're in the Great Depression.

Starting point is 00:40:30 It's just different things. We're taught in every generation. And this is something that I know I've got to do another ad, but another thing I was thinking about is I saw someone say on Twitter the other day that like our generation of conservatives anyway are more conservative than our parents. Do you think that's true? Yeah. I do.

Starting point is 00:40:52 Because I think things have gotten more polarized. I mean, I wasn't really around in the same way back then. obviously, but yeah, I think that's true. Yeah. I think we've had to think about more things than our parents did. Like our parents probably, they didn't have to think about the LGBTQ stuff like we do. And so it's made us kind of go back to the beginning and go back to the Bible and all of these things, which I think has made us more conservative in some ways than our parents, which is, I think, a positive. Yeah. Maybe not a full white pill, but a positive. Right. Well, and we're being fed this stuff all the time. not. So yeah, it makes sense. True. Okay. Very quickly, speaking of colleges, oh, I forgot that this is what

Starting point is 00:41:50 we were going to tie in. Okay, can you explain to us why people are asking if colleges are real? And this somehow has to do with Taylor Swift. Yes. So to redeem myself from earlier, not knowing my Taylor Swift lore. Yeah. So now Harvard has just announced a course on. Taylor Swift. Harvard. Harvard. Taylor Swift in her world. I think it's what it's called.

Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah. And it's taught by a professor, a poet named Stephanie Burt, who is a man. Oh. So there's that. But it's basically about Taylor Swift in like her influences and looking at. It's just a music class. And I think there are other, well, I know that there are other courses. There are multiple colleges.

Starting point is 00:42:41 who are doing Taylor Swift courses, looking at her music. There's even a legal course about specifically Taylor Swift and her legal battles. Okay. That's what colleges have right now. Okay. So why are people asking it's college real? Are they basically just saying so like this is what college is now? Like is it necessary?

Starting point is 00:43:03 Yeah. I mean, I think a lot. I don't necessarily agree with all of the rhetoric because I think a lot of it is like, are you kidding me? A whole class on Taylor Swift? to me, like they've done classes on Miley Cyrus. I think that's a lot sillier than someone like Taylor Swift. And there are also like way worse examples of college courses like wine tasting.

Starting point is 00:43:24 And we found one on tree climbing and one on how to watch television. So I don't think this is the dumbest example. Yeah. But that's why people are saying that. There's plenty of dumb examples out there. Okay. Speaking of dumb and colleges and academia and all these things. Okay, Oxford University Press, publisher of the multi-volume Oxford English Dictionary has named Riz as its word of the year, a word made popular by Ginzi to describe someone's ability to attract or seduce another person.

Starting point is 00:44:00 Okay. Okay. A goblin mode. I remember that. Goblin mode was last year. This year was Riz. I've never used to this. actually, but I have heard it used. And Bree, I hear you have maybe a few words for me.

Starting point is 00:44:14 So what Bree is going to do is she's going to give me a few words, a few Gen Z words. And I'm going to try to tell you what the definition is. I don't know what these, what words she's going to say. And I will do my best to define them. Okay. We've got dupe. Doop? Like a dupe is okay if you've got a designer designer jeans or say you got ugs you can get ugg doops right yeah ugg doaps and they're not the designer brand they're cheaper that's a gin z word yeah okay okay okay okay um menti b mental breakdown yeah yeah okay okay okay okay okay meanty b wow it's so sad yeah okay okay what about delulu

Starting point is 00:45:04 DeLulu is delusional and I like that one. I say that a lot. I called Eric Swalwell Delulu on Twitter the other day. Fitting. Okay, what about a common L? Common L is like common L or a common W is like if someone is that always has bad takes or always does something that you think is like bad or stupid, you would say like common L for. right or like common w for someone that you think always has good takes yeah like some of the like idiot pro Hamas people were saying jiji had deed and her things that she's saying oh common w for jiji haddi wow yeah that's a great example okay you see you know most of these i do you know suss yes yes yeah that's that's kind of an old one that's like suspect or suspicious right and then the last one i have is it's giving it's giving okay it's like okay when I for I'm I hope I'm helping some of you educate y'all

Starting point is 00:46:12 out there um you would say it's giving like noun like a noun so rather than just calling something by an adjective so my toy story rug is giving Disney adults that kind of thing but I don't know that I always use it correctly like can you put it in a sentence well that was the perfect sentence. Okay. You're right. It's giving Disney adult. It's giving Disney adult. Like instead of saying, oh, this reminds me of a Disney adult. Yeah. Yeah. I saw a video the other day that made me laugh. Because I do this too now that like this time of year is really difficult if you have that idea of giving in your head because I saw this video on Instagram that was like, I saw. I saw a sign like on Starbucks that said it's giving season and they couldn't say it right like they

Starting point is 00:47:09 kept on saying in their head it's giving season instead of it's giving season or like we're giving thanks it's giving thanks it's giving thanks oh my gosh our minds have just become delulu because of all these ginsie okay I'm sure there's more out there that I don't know. Yeah. There's more out there that I don't know either. Yeah. Well, that's true.

Starting point is 00:47:37 Are you? When were you born? When year? 94. I'm a Cusper. Oh. Yo, you're still a millenn. You're a young, young, Melan.

Starting point is 00:47:45 You're only two years younger than me. But you are, I think it ends in 95. So you're real close. Yeah, I'm close. You're close. You're closer to the Gen Zs than I am. All right. All right.

Starting point is 00:48:09 That's all we've got time for today. Go back and listen to our watch yesterday's episode with Dr. Mariam Grossman. It was such an amazing conversation. There were so many more things that I could have asked her that we could have talked about. I know we talk about gender a lot. Gosh, I wish that we didn't, but it is such, I mean, it's everywhere. And like we talked about at the beginning, it's seeping into all areas of government and all areas of Christian life. You're not going to be able to avoid it for long. And I just love getting all different kinds of perspectives. And she had the child psychiatrist's perspective and gave us some really interesting information. So go listen to that

Starting point is 00:48:42 or watch that if you haven't already. We've got a lot of good interviews coming up, not just for the rest of the month, but also in the new year. There is one in particular interview that you guys have literally been asking for for years, and we've been trying to get this person on, and finally it's going to work out, Lord willing.

Starting point is 00:49:02 Literally, you guys have been asking for this person to be on the show for so long. So I'm just going to allow you to guess at what that is. Okay, let me also encourage you to go check out The Blind. It's the true story of the Robertson family. It's available for purchase on Blaze TV. It gives Phil Robertson's testimony, their early years of marriage right before they became Christians. They had a very rough life. And just morally, the life that they were leading is a really powerful. It's a powerful story of redemption. And it's a really encouraging story

Starting point is 00:49:38 as we celebrate salvation, celebrate the birth of our Savior to just be reminded of the power of his gospel through Phil Robertson's story. So check it out. Go to blazedtv.com slash the blind. You can get it for 1999. That's blazedtv.com slash the blind. All right. That's all we've got time for today. We will be back here tomorrow. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about. God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality.

Starting point is 00:50:22 We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this Steve Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Thank you.

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