Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 922 | The Very Scary Rise of Christofascism

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

Today we're looking again at the story of a Texas mother who is fighting to abort her child, who was diagnosed with a rare chromosomal disorder that is often, though not always, fatal. The debate over this story has blown up, and we give a recap but also double down on the fact that we should not have empathy for this woman's decision to kill her child. Then we take another look at Rob Reiner's documentary on Christian nationalism and the "threat" we face from it. We explain why there is simply no comparison between the looming threat of the progressive agenda versus the few people who have extreme "Christian nationalist" views. Then, Producer Bri joins to talk Christmas music hot takes. --- Timecodes: (02:20) Update on Texas mother seeking abortion (18:09) Jack Phillips & Leftist activists (23:57) Christian nationalism documentary (36:57) "Christian nationalism" example (42:00) What's behind the documentary? (47:00) Hamas headlines (51:49) Christmas hot takes --- Today's Sponsors: A'Del — go to adelnaturalcosmetics.com and enter promo code "ALLIE" for 30% off your first order! Carly Jean Los Angeles — use promo code RELATABLE25 for $25 off an order of $125 or more, or RELATABLE50 for $50 off an order of $200 or more at CarlyJeanLosAngeles.com! Pre-Born — Will you help rescue babies' lives? Donate by calling #250 & say keyword 'BABY' or go to Preborn.com/ALLIE. Help us reach Blaze's goal of 70,000 ultrasounds in 2023! Patriot Mobile — go to PatriotMobile.com/ALLIE or call 972-PATRIOT and use promo code 'FRIDAY76' to get a free smart phone with activation! WNG Online — WORLD Watch is a daily, ten-minute show primarily designed for students. Access your first 3 months of unlimited episodes for FREE at worldwatch.news/ALLIE. --- Links: The Federalist: "Loudoun County Dad Arrested For ‘Trespassing’ At Local Public School Board Meeting Found Not Guilty" https://thefederalist.com/2023/01/05/loudoun-county-dad-arrested-for-trespassing-at-local-public-school-board-meeting-found-not-guilty/ Washington Examiner: "Biden rule takes lunch money from schools that reject progressive gender, sexuality agenda" https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/biden-rule-takes-lunch-money-from-schools-that-reject-progressive-gender-sexuality-agenda --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 920 | Russell Moore, David French & the Fake Threat of Christian Nationalism | Guest: John Cooper https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-920-russell-moore-david-french-the-fake-threat/id1359249098?i=1000638231068 Ep 921 | To the Texas Mom Suing to Abort Her Baby https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-921-to-the-texas-mom-suing-to-abort-her-baby/id1359249098?i=1000638357091 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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A new Christian nationalism documentary with David French, Russell Moore, and others claims that Christo-fascism is on the rise. But is that the real threat our country is facing? Also, Anne Coulter and other conservatives are calling people like me radical and extremism. stream for our basic pro-life position. I've got a response to that. And also, producer Bree has some very controversial takes about Christmas music. We've got all that and more on this episode of Relatable, which is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com. Use promo code Alley for a discount. That's good ranchers.com code Alley. Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Wednesday. Hope everyone is having a great week so far. Before we get

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the studio about the story that we discussed yesterday. And I just, I've got a little rant. I've got a little bit more to say about this story of the woman, Kate Cox, who is suing the state of Texas to have an abortion because at 20 weeks, her baby inside the womb was diagnosed with trisomy 18, which is usually not always a fatal diagnosis. They die either in utero or within a week, sometimes within a year, sometimes within a few years after birth. There are some babies that actually survive much longer than that. There are teenagers who have trisomy 18. It just depends on the diagnosis and the medical attention that a medical team is willing to give the baby.

But she wasn't interested in that route. She wanted to abort her child. She wasn't interested in the different options that were given to her, that they could induce her labor. They could give her a C-section, whether the baby. baby died in the womb or made it to delivery, she wanted an abortion. And in the state of Texas, she didn't qualify for an abortion. There is an exception for the life of the mother in Texas abortion law, but her life was not at risk. If it had been at risk, her doctors would have said that. Her lawyers certainly would have said that, but that's not the case that they're making.

They're trying to exaggerate some of the risks that she does have, not based on any medical information that the doctors gave, but based on their own interpretations to try to say that she should qualify and get an abortion. While sadly, Kate Cox has traveled to another stage to abort her child. And I've been talking about this. A lot of pro-life conservatives have been talking about this. And we've gotten quite a bit of blowback, which is normal. It's very normal for the pro-life position to be called extreme, to be called radical,

to be called cruel, handmade's tail, all of these silly things that we've, heard a million, a billion, bajillion times from the left. But we're getting it also from the right. We are getting it from people who call themselves conservatives and even people who call themselves pro-life

saying that our position that this baby with a terrible, very sad, tragic diagnosis, that that baby is a human being and therefore he has he is entitled to human rights, the most fundamental of which is the right not to be murdered,

the right to life. And that doesn't change depending on the circumstances surrounding their conception. That doesn't change based on their special needs. That doesn't change based on what situation the mother is in or what the mother desires to do. If we believe the pro-life premise that babies inside the womb are human, then they always deserve are entitled to that fundamental human right to not be murdered, the fundamental human right to life. But apparently that is a radical, cruel position that is going to cost Republicans all elections and people like me need to take a more measured, a more nuanced, a saner position. And to say that in a case like this, that child should be aborted or the woman should be allowed to abort her child.

I find it so interesting that these so-called moderate conservatives really do think like progressives when it comes to this. Like they don't really know, I've noticed, they don't really know the facts of the case. They don't know how far along Kate Cox says. They don't know anything, it seems, about fetal development. They don't know the difference between the DNC and a D&E. they don't know what abortion looks like at this point in gestation. They don't realize that that baby can be born whole.

They don't think about the fact that the choice is really between two kinds of deliveries because the baby has to come out. It's either delivering that baby whole or delivering that baby in pieces. Instead, they just insist that it is radical to believe that this baby, even this baby, has a right to life. And I just, I just want to say that I understand that position. I understand that position. However, and I say this from love, it is stupid.

It is a stupid position. And I can say that with confidence because I once thought like these people did. I did. Back in 2016 and before, I also held the position that you can be pro-life, but believe in ABCD-E-F-G exception, that you can still care about babies inside of the womb. You can still believe that they have a right to life. You can be staunchly pro-life and still believe in all of these exceptions.

I absolutely, 2015, Ali Stucky absolutely would have said that this situation with the Texas woman should qualify as an exception. I would have said that sure, she should be able to get an abortion. Yeah, it's sad. Yeah, it's tragic. But, you know, she doesn't, she probably doesn't really want this. This is a really difficult decision. She should be able to get the abortion. I also would have said that abortion should be legal in cases of rape and incest.

I probably could have given you a pretty significantly long list of reasons why someone should be able to get an abortion. And I still would have called myself staunchly pro-life. I still would have said that I have compassion for those little image bearers of God. I would have used all the right language. But when it came down to it, my position was incredibly incoherent. Because I wasn't really thinking from the perspective of the baby. I was thinking about this as this abstract issue. And so because I was thinking about it like an issue, a political topic, rather than what it is,

a tangible matter of life and death for a human being, I held a very morally and logically stupid perspective on this. And you know what changed my mind? You might think it was having a child. It wasn't. I did have our first in 2019. And so that strengthened my pro-life views. Of course, when you see that baby in the ultrasound, for me, it was about 11 and a half weeks. and I was shocked to see how fully formed she was with arms and legs kicking and moving and flipping around. That certainly strengthened my views, but that was not what did it. That's not actually what God used to change my mind from this inconsistent, incoherent, not really pro-life position that I held back in 2016 and prior. It was a Facebook comment. It was a comment from a

person I don't even know who they are anymore. It was just a random follower because this was after I started my blog, The Conservative Millennial, and I had a Facebook page and I posted something or commented something about, oh, yeah, I'm pro-life, but there's got to be exceptions sometimes, right? I think I said something about the exceptions that are needed for rape and incest. And it was a random commenter who asked me a question. Why do the circumstances surrounding that child's... conception change whether that child has a right to live or not. Why do the circumstances surrounding their conception in danger their right to life?

It doesn't change the scientific fact that they're a human. It doesn't change the fact that they are an image bearer of God. Why should they be punished for a choice that? was that that was made at their conception, not by the mother in cases of rape, but an awful, sinful, wicked choice by the man who raped or why should the child get punished for that? Well, I had never thought about it like that. I had never thought about it really from the perspective of the baby.

That we don't punish a child because of the situation or the circumstances surrounding their conception. We shouldn't punish a child for a fatal diagnosis. We shouldn't punish a child for the situation that their mother may be in. We choose life for them. We choose love for them and their parents. That is the consistent take. That is the coherent perspective. Because if you believe that you can be pro-life with XYZ exception, then you're not really pro-life. You're not really pro-life because you don't buy into the premise of the pro-life idea that babies are human beings and therefore deserve human rights. They're entitled to human rights. That is the only coherent position. And in fact, I have more respect for the opposite perspective. I have more respect for

the radical pro-aborts, maybe not respect for them, but a more respect for the consistency of their argument, those who simply say that they don't care that babies inside the womb are human beings, that they simply believe in women's absolute bodily autonomy and that at any point in pregnancy, she should be able to order the murder of her child. That's a barbaric position, but it's consistent. It makes more sense logically than the position that, yeah, babies are human beings, but if they get sick or if their mom is in a really difficult situation, she should have a right to murder them. That doesn't make any sense at all. I know. I'm called radical. I'm called extreme. I am, I will be called, or the position that I hold at least will be blamed for losing

Republican elections. I don't care. Abortion is extreme. Abortion. Abortion. is radical. Abortion is barbaric. Abortion is cruel. There is never a good or humane or sane justification for poisoning or dismembering a child. They're simply not. Look, pro-choicers, because that's what that's what you are. If you believe you're your pro-life, but there are X, Y, Z exceptions, you're pro-choice. Just understand this. Can you understand this? because this seems like really difficult for pro-choice people to grasp. Like I know all of your arguments backwards and forwards. Like I would, by the grace of God, take absolutely any pro-choicer in any debate or any discussion.

Like I'm not intimidated. I'm not afraid at all. I know all of your arguments. I understand them backwards and forwards. Pro-choicers are extremely, I'm sorry, but extremely ignorant, extremely ignorant. When it comes to abortion, when it comes to fetal development, when it comes to gestation, when it comes to pro-life arguments, just extremely ignorant. But here's what I want you to understand is that we pro-lifers really believe,

we really know that babies inside the womb are people, that they're human beings, they're not potential human beings, they're not a potential life, they're not just clumps of cells, they're human beings, and therefore they're entitled to human rights. Every idea that we have about murder, outside of the womb, we apply to people inside the womb. And so if you would not justify killing a person outside of the womb because of the disease that they're diagnosed with, because of their socioeconomic status, because of their potential for a difficult life, because they're poor,

because their parents don't want them, because they're in some kind of difficult situation, because they're small, because they're helpless. If these are not reasons that you would kill someone outside of the womb, then they're not good reasons to kill someone inside the womb. Can you grasp that? You might not hold to that position, but can you understand where we're coming from? And can you understand the incoherence in your position? You might not be ready to let go of it yet. I know.

It is so tempting to be seen as the sane and mature and nuanced voice in the room by saying, yeah, I'm pro-life, but I know. It makes you feel good when you get progressives passing you on the back and conservatives whispering to you that really your position is the righteous one. I know. I know. That feels good. But your position is stupid.

I used to hold it to. It's time. Let go. All right. That's my rant. Hey, this is Steve Deast. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God,

humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they lead, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed. You can watch this D-Day Show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. All right. So we know the problems that our nation is facing, right? We've got pornography and schools that's being celebrated by not just librarians and school

administrators and teachers and activists, but the government itself, the Democratic Party, claims that these very sexually explicit books that are labeled as LGBT. TQ affirming books, they celebrate the fact that these books are in libraries and say that this representation matters, even as they shut down the parents who are reading these books out loud at school board meetings. We've got abortion, which we just covered, the violent killing of babies that happens every day, totally legally. We've got the butchering of the bodies of people who say that they're confused about their gender. This includes children. This includes adolescence. We understand that the Biden administration is weaponizing its power to force people to

participate in this madness, taking away free school lunches from schools with students in poverty if they don't allow boys into girls' restrooms. We can link a past episode on that. If you doubt it, we've got a lot of moral. issues that are facing our country. We've got a two-tier justice system. We've got absolute rot in academia. Every single institutionalized power that be has been completely captured by progressivism by this up is down right is wrong ideology. This manifestation of Romans 1 is at the very time. top of every global and national institution, whether you're talking about the WHO, the UN,

WEF, the federal government, many state governments, our public education system, academia, the mainstream media, Hollywood, they are all lockstep in most of these moral and cultural issues. It's not really a debate. It's not really a debate. not really. It's not a serious debate which ideology has more power and uses its power to punish any dissent. I mean, think about Jack Phillips. This is just one of many examples who has been fighting since 2012 for his right simply to bake a cake that aligns with his values. You'll remember, he is the owner of Masterpiece Cake Shop. And he was asked by two gay men if he would make a cake. to celebrate their gay wedding, so-called.

And he said, no. He said, well, I can't make a wedding cake for you, but I can make you another kind of cake, but I can't make something that explicitly celebrates a union that my Christian faith calls sin. I won't do that. And he was sued by this cruel activist couple, and Colorado ruled against him and said,

nope, bake the cake, you big it, while it was eventually taken to the Supreme Court. the Supreme Court did rule in his favor, not on the grounds of religious liberty, but just that, look, Colorado treated this person with express hostility towards his Christian faith. And so, therefore, we're not going to agree to the decision that the Colorado court made. And he is still fighting. He's still fighting because now you have trans activists, all kinds of LGBTQ activists targeting him and requesting. that he make cakes that they know that he cannot morally make.

And so Alliance Defending Freedom has been representing Jack Phillips for a very long time. He has poured out thousands of dollars of his money, so much of his time. I mean, I've met him before. Back in like 2017, I think, I started to go fund me for him, which, you know, I'm definitely not patting myself on the back for that because that takes like zero effort. It was all of you, all the people who followed me that donated money and I think raised over like $30,000 for him. And I met Jack Phillips a few years ago. And it was the first time I had met him so gentle, so sweet, so kind.

And his eyes just welled up with tears. And he told me that all those donations that you guys sent so many years ago actually helped him keep his business open at the time that he was draining his resources and his time trying to defend himself from LGBTQ acts. And so this is a Christian who literally was just minding his business, just living his life. And you have LGBTQ activists who have weaponized the power of the government to try to force him to bake a cake in their favor. It's the same thing with Lori Smith. It's the same thing with florists and artists and coaches and teachers and all kinds of people who just want to live in a way that abides by their moral code, especially when it comes to sex and gender, who are sued, who are. are fired, who are discriminated against. We constantly hear from the LGBTQ progressive side. Just mind your own business. Stay in your own lane. We literally are. And you guys are hunting down

Christians to target and then sue and then ruin. So there's really no serious debate about who is in charge and who has the power and who is trying to interfere in the lives of whom. It's the progressive side. D. And yet we hear that Christian nationalism is the big threat our country faces. Christian nationalism is causing all the real problems. It's Christian nationalism that we have to fear. It's Christian nationalism that's rising to prominence and power.

And there's a new documentary. Phil Vischer is in it. He is the guy who created Veggie Tales. I mean, talk about. such a different person with a different mission now. David French, of course, Russell Moore, several other people are in it who would call themselves progressives. Now, those people, Russell Moore, David French, and Phil Fisher wouldn't call themselves progressive. They might even call themselves in some ways conservative, which is funny.

But they are in this, and it's a documentary about the dangers of Christian nationalism, that this is the real threat that we have to focus on. So here's a clip from the documentary. They're told over and over and over again that you're in danger. You need to fight if you don't want to lose your country. We are in a civil war between good and evil. This is not a movement about Christian values. This is about Christian power.

What happens to the people who don't believe this stuff? We are on the precipice. God is on our side. We're taking our nation back. The thing that keeps me up at night is that we lose democracy. Does that seem possible? Yes. Okay.

So we talked about this a little bit with John Cooper on Monday. You can go back and listen to that episode. But I just had more to say about this. So I can say up front what I've said for years now, if by Christian nationalist, what you mean is someone who believes that America is. the new Israel is God's chosen country that the future of America determines when Jesus is coming back and that we are called to build a theocracy here where we force people to bow down at the cross of Christ and we use Jesus to round people up and force them into conversions. If by Christian nationalists,

you mean the people who caused violence on January 6th and stormed capital and are calling for executions for non-Christians. If that's what you mean by Christian Nationalists, then yes, of course, I condemn that. Of course, I know, I don't know anyone. And I don't know anyone who knows anyone who falls into that camp. I'm sure they exist. They mostly exist online. I think most of those people are bots.

But I'm sure that there are people who believe those things. If by Christian nationalist, that's what you mean, then yeah, that's just theologically incorrect. That's theologically incorrect. America is not God's chosen country. We might have reaped special blessings, gracious blessings. We have, and that's incredible. The future of America does not determine when Jesus is coming back. No one knows the day or the hour that Jesus is coming back.

And we are not called as Christians to establish. establish a feocry. But Christians are called to bring our worldview to the voting booth. We are called to allow our faith to influence how we vote and what we think about each policy. Everyone in the United States in this representative democracy has a right to do that, has a responsibility to do that. But what we are hearing from those who decry Christian nationalism as this great big, prominent, pervasive threat. What we hear is that Christians are not allowed to do that. That Christians are the only ones who cannot bring our worldview to the voting booth. that we can be personally against abortion.

We can be personally against transgenderism. We can have our own personal beliefs about marriage and about these moral matters. But it is fascism the second you allow those personal beliefs to become political. But that's not true of any other group. It's okay for progressives to bring their worldview to the voting booth. It's okay for an atheist to allow his secular human. humanism to inform his vote. It's okay for people of all different kinds of religious backgrounds and all different kinds of world views to bring their beliefs to the public square and allow that to shape what

they think about policies. But when Christians do it, it's theocratic fascism. When Christians do it, it's scary Christian nationalism. When Christians do it, it is the number one threat to democracy that exist. Don't you see what's happening here. Don't you see that they're just trying to scare Christian conservatives out of voting in alignment with our faith? Don't you see that they're just trying to neuter you? Don't you see that they just don't want Republicans to win? That's what it is. Like it's that it's really that superficial that they just don't want Republicans who abide by their Christian faith to win. They they believe that the only future for Christianity in the United States is a neutered future,

a future in which Christians completely push our faith to the side, categorize our faith over here, and then just allow progressivism to run rampant. That's what we hear. And I'm just not jiving with that. I'm sorry. I'm not. I'm not really sorry, actually.

Because... The things that they don't want us fighting against are things that are an assault on the Amago Day. They don't want my faith to inform what I think about abortion, what I think about transgenderism, what I think about marriage. But they do. And they have to. And me bringing my faith to the voting booth is not forcing you to become a Christian. I'm just doing the same thing you, atheist, progressive, are doing. You're bringing your personal beliefs into the public square and so am I and made the best idea win.

That's how this whole thing is supposed to work. But Christians are supposed to bow out of the fight. We're not supposed to care about the babies being dismembered inside the womb. You're not supposed to care about the bodies being butchered by derelict doctors. You're not supposed to care about the rising crime and you're not supposed to push for real justice against criminals. you're not supposed to care about these things. You're not supposed to bring your moral beliefs into the public dialogue about politics and culture and morality conservative Christian. Everyone else can, but you can't because when you do it, it's the handmade stale.

When you do it, you're a fascist. That's what's going on here. Now, I say this as someone who, one, I voted for Trump twice, but also I am not the world's biggest Trump fan. I'm not. Like, y'all probably know that about me. There are other candidates that I think would be way better presidents. That's a fact. But I also understand that he is simply not the threat to democracy that these people say that he is.

And I understand that people who vote for him like I have are not these crazy radical. extreme, theocratic, fascist that the media and this documentary wants you to believe that we are. We're just not.

We're just people who think that it's wrong to abort babies. Like, we're just people who believe in free speech. We're just people who believe in the Second Amendment. We're just people who don't believe that the government

should be threatening to take away parents' custody of their children because they won't chemically castrate their 10-year-old son. Crazy. I know. We're wild out here. But these are,

are just the things that we believe, things that were common sense, things that everyone believed 10 to 20 years ago. Yeah, are there some extreme people out there? Are there some truly authoritarian dictatorial people out there? Yeah, but they don't even come close to the dictatorial, tyrannical people on the left. Not even close. Not even close. If you want to see who the real dictators are, all you have to do is look at the Democratic Party. And in fact, I think that these accusations of scary Christian nationalism, I think it's projection. Because they are constantly on the left trying to morally manipulate us and emotionally extort us into Biden into their views.

They use religion. They use all kinds of emotional and spiritual tactics to try to convince us that being on their side is the righteous and the moral thing to do. So when Kamala Harris or when Stacey Abrams or when Joe Biden, when Pete Buttigieg, when they use the Bible to try to say, that we must be pro-choice and scared to have children because of climate change and all these policies that they want us to support, that's fine because the ends justify the means. But if we allow the Bible to inform what we think about things like abortion, that it's scary, scary fascism.

I've, you know, I've said this so many times, but it just seems to still be a sticking point for a lot of Christians. You don't have to worry. You don't have to worry about the rise of Christian fascism. There's like two people in the entirety of the United States that have those beliefs. You need to be worried about the complete institutional capture of every national and international, entity by progressivism. You think Black Rock and Vanguard and all these organizations are pushing Christian conservatism?

They're not. All right, quite a few things about this documentary. One thing I wanted to point out that you might have seen in that trailer that we also talked about on Monday with John, but I wanted to talk about it a little bit more, was one of the examples that they gave in that montage of apparently Christian nationalism was footage of a man being thrown out of a school board meeting. Now, who was this man? Who was this man that was being thrown out of a school board meeting that were supposed to

believe from that footage was the scary Christian nationalists that was doing something bad? You saw that he was being arrested in a room and he looked like he was resisting arrest. This was a dad by the name of John Teigs out of Loudoun County, Virginia. Now, why was he getting arrested? Why was he making a ruckus in this school board meeting? So this is according to the Federalist. He was arrested on June 22nd, 2021, after he tried to express his concerns about the school district's, quote unquote, moral decay. He was one of more than 250 people who had signed up to speak during the public comment section of Loudoun County School Board meeting regarding the board's new transgender policy proposal.

The proposal mandated that employees use preferred pronouns, so-called, and would allow students to use preferred restrooms regardless of their sex. Before Teeks could speak, school board chairwoman Brenda Sheridan called off the meeting. Teak stood up and encouraged people on both sides of the debate to stay and discuss what they came to discuss. He said that people could be heard without amplification because it was a peaceful assembly. However, the now recently fired Superintendent Scott Ziegler declared that the gathering was an unlawful assembly and ordered hundreds of people to leave. And Teagues refused to leave. Then he was arrested for trespassing.

His arrest was used by the National School Board's Association in 2021 in collusion with the Biden White House to justify the smearing of concerned parents as domestic terrorists who required. who required punishment from federal law enforcement. On January 5th, 2023, Teeggs was found not guilty of trespassing. And I do want to correct something that I said on Monday. I got him confused with a dad who was also arrested at a school board meeting because his daughter had been assaulted by a so-called transgender person in the bathroom. This guy, John Teeggs, was a, was a, was a different person. But he was also not guilty of anything. He was simply,

peacefully, trying to raise his voice about a very disturbing and very dangerous policy that would allow boys into girls' restrooms. And he was arrested for trespassing after the superintendent said suddenly that this was an unlawful gathering. And so that was included in this advertisement why because the people who made this documentary don't believe that christians should care about that they don't believe that christians should have any say over whether a boy should enter into a girl's bathroom because if they do that scary christian nationalism they're trying to intimidate you out of saying anything they're trying to intimidate you away from defending your children defending gender defending things that matter defending the things that keep your

family safe. They don't want you to say anything about it because they want you to be scared of being called a fascist and a Christian nationalist. They're okay with you being a Christian as long as you don't act like it. They're okay with you being a Christian as long as you don't live that out. They're okay with you believing these crazy archaic, barbaric things about the definition of marriage and the protection of children and the gender binary and all of those things. But you cannot allow those things to go outside of your home. And in fact, they might say that, but they're really not even okay with that. Because if you don't allow your own child to go through so-called gender transition, then the state of California or the state of Oregon or these liberal states will come into your home

and remove your child from your home and make sure that they get the hormone treatments that they want. That's not fearmongering. That's not slippery slope. That's literally happening. That's literally happening. We actually, that's happening to Illinois. We had a mom who, who lost custody of her daughter because she did not agree with the transition of her daughter. Yaly Martinez, that's a child out of California. She ended up committing suicide after the state removed her from her mother's home because her mother did not agree with her child transitioning. So this stuff is happening.

But according to this documentary, based on the things that they're including, you're not allowed to say anything about that or else it's scary Christian nationalism. So origins of the documentary. Catherine, Catherine Stewart, the documentary is based on her book, Power Worshippers Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism. And so she, fearmongers about the religious right and the power that we're taking. Like, it's funny because, like, Donald Trump has seen as the figurehead of this. And, like, I'm not even sure that the man is a Christian.

I don't even think he could tell you the first thing about what the Bible says. or what the gospel says, but he is apparently the representation of religious nationalism. Catherine Stewart is a left-wing New York Times journalist who is a proud supporter of abortion. She has criticized other Christian movements in the past. She wrote a book about the Good News Club, which is a nonprofit after-school club that shares the gospel with students in public schools. She called it a stealth assault from the Christian right. So again, these people just have a problem with you being a Christian. Like they just have a problem with you sharing the gospel and living out your faith.

That is the issue. So she is behind this documentary. She claims that these Christians are worshipping power. And then also we've got Rob Reiner, who is a, he is a Hollywood producer. He's produced a lot of major films. And he apparently is helping with the producing of this. He is a long-time liberal activist, has been pushing for radical left-wing policies for a very long time. We've also got Kristen Dumae, and we've got Andrew Whitehead.

Kristen Dume, she wrote Jesus and John Wayne. Andrew Whitehead has been writing about the dangers of Christian nationalism for a long time. I would be more than happy to have either of these people on my show. They can promote the wazoo out of their books, and we can talk all about it. I would love to, I just want to go through their arguments one by one. Really make sure that I understand it. Really make sure that my audience understands it. I would be more than happy to have these people on.

They can even promote this documentary if they want to. Phil Vischer, as I said, VeggieTales co-creator. He is a part of it. Phil Visher and I have gone back and forth several times on things. I think he is so incredibly wrong on the most important moral issues of our day. He would probably be someone like David French and Russell Moore. who try to push, they would not call themselves progressive, as I said, but they would push a so-called third way. I think in a lot of these things, they end up, I think erring on the side of the left on many issues.

David French probably the least of the three. But they would represent, you know, I'm not trying to be right or left. I'm in the middle of these issues. Or I'm a Christian, but I'm not this scary Christian nationalist who actually thinks that your worldview should inform your vote. They would probably be more in that camp, but they end up being so soft in these issues that they basically just serve it all up for progressives. They basically are in alignment with them when it comes down to the conclusions of progressive ideas. They're very, I don't want to say, like they're not idiots. So I don't want to say that because I actually don't think that they're stupid, but they are useful idiots. They are useful idiots because they're always punching right and tickling left. So they might pretend to sometimes criticize the left on things, but they are definitely going to make sure that you know that the real problem lies with the right. There are several other people.

who are a part of it, whose names that you would probably recognize. Russell Moore in the documentary says that Christian nationalism uses Christianity as a means to an end. That end being some form of authoritarianism. The term Christian nationalism refers to the use of Christian word symbols or rituals as a means to shore up an ethnic or national identity. Again, how many people actually believe this if you think that this is the real threat? David French, he says we should be blazing forth as a counterculture. triple example. And instead, we are leading the charge of malice and division. Really? Okay. It's the right that's doing that. Wow, that's just incredible. Anthea Butler, we talked about her on Monday.

She's the author of White Evangelical Racism, the Politics of Morality in America. She was the one in that advertisement who said that we're going to lose democracy thanks to the people on January 6th. Really? Like, these people have no power. They have no power. They have no institution. or governmental backing, uh, whatsoever. Um, Kyle Mann said this.

I thought this was funny. He said, he's of the Babylon Bee. He said, avowed atheist Rob Reiner. I'm looking for Christians to interview in my documentary, slamming Christians. David French,

Phil Fisher, Russell Moore. Say no more. Uh, yeah, that's typically how it goes. And so just be on the, I mean,

be on the lookout for this. If you see people sharing this in your life, you got to talk to them. You got to talk to them. You got to hold them by the shoulders and say, look at where the power actually is. They are just trying to ensure that there's no dissent. They're just trying to silence any last dissenting voice to the zeitgeist of progressivism.

That's all that's happening here. Like we can have theological debates about some of the theological mistakes that these actual Christian nationalists are making. those that you, you know, see January 6th, whatever, making ridiculous claims about America and God in the Bible. We can talk about those things. But let's not pretend that this power or that this movement has any real power. Come on. Let's live in reality. But I do want to read you some headlines because this is going to be the line that we hear over and over again, over and over again in 2024.

Far-right Nagafiocrats, most dangerous threat to America. A former Playboy White House reporter, what, says Maga and Christian nationalism are bigger threat to U.S. than Hamas. I can't. Bree is laughing. She's trying to stifle her laughter. Do you want to know Playboy reporter what Hamas would do to you? Like you live in this country right next to all these so-called Christian nationalists and you're just able to live your degenerate life freely without consequence at all. Do you want to know what would happen?

you went to Palestine, you'd be dead. You'd be dead, boo. Okay? But here you are. Just living your life here next to all these scary Christian nationalists. You would be raped and beheaded by Hamas. You actual insane person. On the Bill Marshow, Democrat strategist James Carville claims that Speaker Johnson,

Speaker Mike Johnson, who is in a lot of hot water for being a Christian who says Christian things. And Christian nationalism are a bigger threat to America than Al-Qaeda. They really believe that. James Carville, by the way, is seen as like a moderate, a sane voice among Democrats. That's what you're going to hear in 2024. They are going to be manipulating Christians so hard telling you that it's fine to be a Christian. Just don't vote like it. Oh my gosh.

You have to repudiate that nonsense as fiercely as you possibly can. And they are going to try so hard to empathy shame you. and say the right and the righteous and the moral and the loving thing to do is just to vote for abortion, vote for transgenderism, vote for progressive tyranny. They want so badly full power and to gaslight you into thinking that voting according to your conscience is grabbing for power. You got to call them out and you can't believe a second of it. Okay, so let's take a break from all that craziness and talk about Christmas music. Bree was like, I'm dying to tell everyone what my least favorite Christmas song is. and we understand that it's going to cause a little bit of controversy,

a little bit of controversy because some people are very emotionally attached to this song. Now, Brie, I want you to tell us, what is the worst Christmas song and you have to sing it? Brie actually can sing, but she's never sung for me. And I guess she's not going to sing for relatable. So you can speak it. Not this song. Okay, the worst Christmas song is Christmas shoes. Wow. Wow. Why do you hate children? I know. I know. I know people listening are going to be like, but I love that song. It's so sad. And I'm sorry. It is sad. What, okay, explain what you hate about it. And it will, okay, wait, first, first, first, read us some of the lyrics because some people may not know. Okay. Okay. You know what? I will sing it.

I want to buy these shoes for my mama, please. Because it's Christmas Eve and these shoes are just her. eyes. Could you hurry, sir? The doctor, daddy, says there's not much time. And she's been sick for quite a while. She's been sick for quite a while. I know these shoes will make her smile. Oh, this is actually like making if Mama meets Jesus tonight. Well, you know the whole thing. I mean, we've been listening to it since like 1993. Yeah, true. Since before you were born, Bree.

Okay, so there you go, everyone. If you had never heard it. It is a really sad song, but tell me why you hate it. Okay. The kid has no money, right? Family has no money. Mom's on her deathbed. Yeah.

And he chooses to leave, go to a store, and buy shoes. So she looks pretty for Jesus? Yeah, Bree. I don't think priorities are right there. Don't think dad should let him go do that. It's a child, Bree. It's a child. Dad shouldn't have let him go do that. Also, he doesn't even have enough money for the shoes, so he has to beg for them anyway.

He is a child. Trying to make his mother happy on her death back. But you know what would make her happy is if he didn't leave to go buy shoes. Bree, he's seven. Okay? Yeah. He's six. Yeah.

He's just trying to do something nice for him. his dying mother. Yeah, I know. It's just wrong. I hope Bree's mom is listening to this. My mom is the one who taught me to hate this song, actually. Oh my gosh. She can't stand it.

So we're on the same page. Okay, I just wanted to play devil's advocate, but I actually, I agree with you just like that it is, what inspired someone to write it? You know, why is this a Christmas song? Like, what is it supposed to? do for us. What is it supposed to do for the people listening to it? Yeah.

Except for it make us like really sad. I think that we, there are better ways to channel our compassion for kids who are actually going through something that's tragic. Maybe it's to remind us that people are going through really difficult things and that we should be kind to them and stuff. But man, it really,

it's a very sad song. And I don't understand its purpose at Christmas time. That's a much more gracious. Yeah. Yeah. that's much more gracious than my review, which is just that it's a dumb song. But it also, it's written from the point of view of the guy who gives the kid money for the shoes. So that's a little self-serving in my opinion also.

You know what? Here's the take is that it is actually taking away from what Christmas really is about. It kind of is feeding into this secular idea that Christmas is just, it's just about giving. It's just about peace, whatever, like these kind of abstract concepts instead of pointing to like the source of peace, Jesus himself. So it's kind of like a secular song when you think about it. Yeah. Okay.

You want to hear my. Also, Jesus doesn't care what shoes you're wearing when you die. Yeah, I know. Okay, he doesn't have his full theology on lock yet. I know. He's six. I know. Yeah.

If you want to know the spirit that is driving this show, here's Brie. People are going to be like, wow, Ali is so such a sweet little angel. in comparison. I'm sorry everyone. I'm sorry. Okay. My least favorite Christmas song is last Christmas.

That's, yeah. I gave you my heart. That's a really bad one. That's awful. So bad. I haven't heard a version that I thought was good, which means it's genuinely not a good song. Oh, Taylor Swift hasn't sang it yet.

She might have actually, I don't know. And it would be bad if she did. Okay. It would be. You can say that. You can say that. You can say it. it. Yeah, that's my least favorite Christmas song. Okay, now I've seen some hot takes this year.

Some people are saying, some people are saying that Mariah Carey is overrated. Just that song? I think in general, but maybe. I don't know how you can be overrated if you like only really have one. I mean, I know she has other songs that are popular. Oh my gosh. That's the song. The Mariah heads are going to come after you for saying that. I'm sorry. No, but like this is her season, you know, because of that one song. Yeah. I don't know how you could be over. I don't know.

I love that song. I think it's great. Yeah. I guess I love that song. It reminds me of love actually, which honestly, I'm not, I'm still not sure if I've solidified my opinions of love actually. Yeah, I don't know. It's one of my least favorite.

It's one of your least favorite. Okay. Why is it one of your least favorite? I just think there's a lot of bad messaging in it. I don't think it's well written. I think most of the characters are annoying. I know I'm a Debbie Downer in this segment, but I just, I can't stand that movie. Yeah, what do you like about Christmas?

Well, okay, there are great Christmas movies too and Christmas songs. What? What's your favorite Christmas movie? Great. That's a perfect movie. Oh, yeah. That's a great one. Horrible morality.

Okay, I understand. I mean, what Jude Law and Cameron Diaz got going on, I'm not saying that it is like, you know, morally okay but it's a cute movie it's really good jack black is my favorite character in that movie i love him i love him in like everything he's in okay this is causes contention between my husband and me and that is home alone i don't like home alone oh i don't either my husband loves it did he grow up watching it i think so because i didn't and i think that's why now i've seen it as an adult i'm like i don't get it no it makes it also makes me nervous like it makes me nervous as a mom i'm like i'm supposed to just watch this and not feel traumatized that this little boy was left at home and is fending

off robbers while his parents are in France? That's a great point. I mean, that is like, that's my worst nightmare. That's a good point. I don't like those, though, the, where everything goes wrong movies. You ever watch like Mr. Bean movies? No. Oh, you're missing out. But those just, the, the premises, everything is always going wrong and it stresses me out. Yeah. It's a See, that's how my mom feels about the office. Oh. The office makes her nervous. Yeah.

But I don't feel that way about the office. I don't either. Yeah. Okay. Those are our Christmas takes. Any more Christmas takes? Oh, I do have a little, a cute little recommendation. I just saw this movie The Star.

Oh. Have you seen that? No, but it's the cartoon, right? Yeah, it's about a little donkey and he's like self-conscious because he's like abused and he wants to be as important as like a normal horse. And then he becomes the donkey that carries Mary to Bethlehem. It's a really sweet story. That's like the book The Three Trees.

Isn't that what that's called? A three tree? Yeah, I think those of you out there, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I couldn't tell you the entire story. But anyway, yes, that's really sweet. Yeah. That's sweet. Okay.

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