Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 934 | Ready or Not, Here the Election Comes | Guest: Steve Deace

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

Today we're looking at what happened in the Iowa caucuses yesterday and hear from fellow BlazeTV host Steve Deace of the "Steve Deace Show" on his breakdown of what might be happening in the eyes of voters and what's to come in this election season. We also talk about the reactions to Trump's victory in Iowa, including Beth Moore's commentary on Trump voters. We take a look at the three major candidates and their views on abortion and transgender ideology and explain why it's so important to vote for an actual conservative who is consistently standing up for truth. Then, we take a break from politics to rate some Emmys outfits. --- Timecodes: (00:50) Intro (03:32) Iowa caucus results (13:38) Beth Moore response to Iowa caucus (22:28) Trump policy (33:25) Haley policy (37:40) DeSantis policy (43:30) Steve Deace Iowa commentary (01:01:57) Emmys outfits --- Today's Sponsors: Seven Weeks Coffee — Seven Weeks is a pro-life coffee company with a simple mission: DONATE 10% of every sale to pregnancy care centers across America. Get your organically farmed and pesticide-free coffee at sevenweekscoffee.com and let your coffee serve a greater purpose. Use the promo code 'ALLIE' to save 10% off your order. Cozy Earth — go to CozyEarth.com and use promo code 'RELATABLE' at checkout to save 35% off your order! Good Ranchers — get 10% OFF your box today at GoodRanchers.com – make sure to use code 'ALLIE' when you subscribe. My Patriot Supply — prepare yourself for anything with long-term emergency food storage. Get $200 of survival gear when you buy a Four-Month Emergency Food Kit when you go to MyPatriotSupply.com. The Real Story of Colony Ridge — Glenn Beck traveled to the quickly evolving Liberty County, Texas to give you The Real Story of Colony Ridge. Subscribe now for $30 off a BlazeTV annual subscription by visiting BlazeOriginals.com and use code “COLONY RIDGE.” --- Links: Fox News: "Trump wins Iowa, Fox News Decision Desk predicts DeSantis will take second place" https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/iowa-caucus-election-results-gop-2024-presidential-race RealClear Polling: "2024 Iowa Republican Presidential Caucus" https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/republican-primary/2024/iowa-caucus --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 929 | We’re Back! Trump Blasphemy & Golden Globes Shocker https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-929-were-back-trump-blasphemy-golden-globes-shocker/id1359249098?i=1000640946198 Ep 763 | Governor Ron DeSantis on Trans Kids, DEI, and Fatherhood https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-763-governor-ron-desantis-on-the-lgbtq-lobby-dei/id1359249098?i=1000602371574 Ep 519 | President Donald Trump on Witch Hunts, Family + Mean Tweets https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-519-president-donald-trump-on-witch-hunts-family/id1359249098?i=1000541152964 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this Steve Day's show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us.

Well, former President Trump dominated the Iowa caucus yesterday. What were the results, the numbers, what happens now? Steve Dase is going to give us his analysis. I am also going to give you my perspective of the candidates still in the race and why I. I am supporting, the person that I am supporting. And then we'll have some fun, lighthearted things at the end of this episode. It's brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com.

Use Code Alley. Check out that's Good Ranchers.com. Code Alley. Hey, guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week and that you are staying warm wherever you are. I think that there are very few places in the United States right now where that does not apply. I think I saw somewhere on Twitter that there is a 150 degree difference between the south of Florida and North Dakota.

150 degrees. Oh my goodness. If you live in North Dakota, how? How? How do you do that? I wonder every year how people like that survive. More power to you. You must be having a good time watching all these people doing like cold plunge, like voluntarily getting cold in order to toughen up when really that has been.

your whole life. Everyone is trending North Dakota now. All right. Let's talk about a different state, which is also probably cold, I would guess. And that is the state of Iowa. We are going to talk about the Iowa caucus today, which was yesterday. And we are going to have Steve Days, who is an expert in Iowa caucus in Iowa politics, Iowa Republican politics, really national politics, too. But since he is in and from the state of Iowa, he has a lot of particular insight for us. And so we're going to have him on the show in just a little bit and discuss that. And if If we have time, we'll have a little lighthearted segment at the end of this talking about the Emmys. It was the Emmys, right? The Emmys, see, I'm so in the know that I can't even remember

the name of the awards show that we might be talking about. But first, let's get into this. Let's get into what happened in the Iowa caucuses yesterday. So we haven't really been talking that much about politics for the last few months, but you guys know it's 2024. Politics matter because policy matters because people matter. Politics affects policy. Policy affects people. That's what we have been saying on this show since the beginning, since 2018. And so even though we like to talk about these more evergreen culture war theological topics, I think it's so important to have those conversations. We're going to have more of them this week. We also have to have the episodes dedicated to what is going on right now. What's going on in this new cycle? What's going

on in the polling numbers? What happens in November is hugely consequential for the few of our country and for our children. So if we care about what kind of nation we are passing down to our future generations, to our progeny, we have to care about what is going on in politics. As tiring as it can be, as frustrating as it can be as polarizing and divisive as it can be, as sometimes as anxiety inducing as it can be, this is something that we absolutely have to care about. And believe it or not, we are back in an election year. And the primary has officially started, started in the state of Iowa. So yesterday, Iowa voters went to select their pick for the Republican presidential nominee. Voters met about 1,600 precincts across the state,

including school gyms, church basements, libraries to vote for their nominee. According to real clear polling, Trump had a 33 point. in Iowa going into the caucus. So President Trump won, spoiler alert. If you didn't already know that, he won. And that was the prediction going in to yesterday. The race was very quickly called for President Trump. He won by a significant margin at 51%.

There was some controversy about this. The DeSantis campaign in particular, I think rightfully complained that the media started calling the race before. everyone in Iowa had voted. So even though the doors had closed at many of these voting locations, not everyone had voted. And so they're in line to vote for their candidate of choice. They get a notification on their phone saying that the race has been called for Trump. Well, that's going to ultimately hurt Desantis's numbers, even Nikki Haley's numbers, because people are thinking, well, what's the point? Does my vote even count? I think it is malpractice for these media outlets to call

the race before everyone has voted. What is the harm in waiting just a little bit? But in this, like, clicky culture that we live in, every outlet has to be the first to get the most attention, to get the most retweets, et cetera, and to be used for the most commentary. And so there were a lot of complaints, a lot of frustration about that that these media outlets were calling it so early. It's not that they weren't correct because they were ultimately correct, but again, just very demoralizing for the people who were still in line hadn't yet voted. In second place came Governor Ron DeSantis, with 21.2 percent, followed by Nikki Haley, 19.1 percent. Now, did Governor DeSantis perform worse than, I think, people would have predicted one year ago? Yes, I think a lot of people

when DeSantis was at the height of his popularity, the center of so many news stories sometime at the beginning of last year and the year before that, I think everyone thought that he was going to run away with the primary. But based on recent polling, he actually outperformed recent polling. Recent polling had put Nikki Haley at second, Ron DeSantis at third. But it was actually Nikki Haley who came in third. But very close. So Ron DeSantis 21.2 percent, according to CNN, followed by Nikki Haley with 19.1 percent. And then there's Vivek, Ramoswamy. We have have had, let's see, we've had a lot of these people on our show. We've had Trump on our show. We've had Governor DeSantis. No, we have not had Haley on our show. We've had Governor DeSantis on our show and

Vivek Ramoswamy on our show, but we have not had Nikki Haley on our show. Hopefully that will change. We've asked several times. I would love for the ambassador to come on our show. But Vavei Kramswami, he dropped out of the presidential race Monday night after a fourth place finish. I'm not sure necessarily if that was a surprise to people following the polls. But if you are someone who just gets your news from X, then you might have thought that he was going to perform better. I would say that he is the candidate for much of the online right because he is very, very good at articulating the positions of people who are very online,

which is not a bad thing. It's just what it is. But he is now endorsing former President Trump. That doesn't come as a surprise at all. He was very complimentary. of Trump as he was running. Now, just a few days ago, Trump, I guess not tweeted, but he posted

on truth social that Vivekramaswamy is basically a swindler, that he's a con man, and that he is not really MAGA, that he can't carry on MAGA. And then you saw that echoed by some MAGA people on X as well. Even people on X who had just

recently said that they love Vive Kramo Swami, that they want him as the VP pick. Of course, they have to echo everything that former President Trump said. Now, Nikki Haley, after she came in third, she had an interesting analysis of the conclusions of the Iowa caucus. So let's play SOT 1. Here is Haley's takeaway.

I can safely say, tonight, Iowa made this Republican primary a two-person race. between whom two person race between Trump and DeSantis? A two person race between Trump and you? But you came in third place. So maybe I'm misunderstanding what exactly she's saying there. But I don't think that that's the case, Nikki Haley. I don't think that that's the case. But again, you can come on my show and you can explain exactly what you meant by that. you would please kindly reply to our requests. The New Hampshire caucus is next week, and so we'll see what goes down there. Here's the polling data right now on that. Trump, 52.5%, Nikki Haley, 18.8%. And then DeSantis, 15.7%. Now, we'll see what happens.

Again, DeSantis, his favorables are good. and he actually had, there were some interesting, interesting analysis actually on DeSantis and what demographics he actually won, which I think is good long term. I don't know if it's going to help him in the primary. But if you look at the exit polling from the Iowa caucus, 35 percent of 17 to 29 year olds, and we can put that graphic up. This is actually not an exit poll. It's an entrance poll from CNN. 35% of 17 to 29 year olds voted for DeSantis. Now, that was the only age group that Trump did not win. So 23% of that demographic for Haley, 21% for Ramoswami, which is also interesting because if you spend time online, you would think that all Gen Z loves Vivek. And then 21% for Trump. But 35% for DeSantis. It was the boomer. 65 and older who really are in the Trump camp.

56% of 65 and older voted for Trump versus only 17% for DeSantis. That's so interesting. That's gosh, that's so interesting. I have a lot of thoughts, but I haven't fully formulated them yet. And so I'll have to share them on a future episode. Also, my dad is going to come on soon. And he's going to give us some analysis of these things. He's going to be giving us a lot of political analysis this year.

You guys love when my dad comes on. He has a way of explaining things very clearly, but in a way that makes us feel like the sky is not falling. And so he'll be here. Maybe he can give us some boomer analysis from a boomer himself on why they're so in Trump's camp and don't like to Santa. It's very interesting, or at least in the state of Iowa. I don't know if that's true generally. Hey, this is Steve Deast. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political.

They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God. humanity and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos.

If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this Steve Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Joy Reid has some very incredible analysis, as she always does, the most brilliant, the most brilliant analysis on why Trump won Iowa and Nikki Haley did not. So here's what Joy Reid of MSNBC has to say this is sought to. But, you know, I feel like the important sort of data point, and you know, Steve talks about it a lot. He's going to probably talk about a little more tonight is that these are white Christians, that this is a state that is overrepresented,

overrepresented by white Christians that are going to participate in these caucuses, especially tonight. They see themselves as the rightful inheritors of this country, and Trump has promised to give it back to them. All the things that we think about, about electability, about, you know, what are people gaming out? None of that matters when you believe that God has given you this country, that it is yours, and that everyone who is not a white conservative Christian is a fraudulent American, That is obviously, that's obviously ridiculous. That is obviously a ridiculous analysis. Now, I have my own questions about why when there are other Republican candidates on the table, people are so solidly and so many people are so solidly for Trump. I'm not saying that I don't understand it at all and then I'm completely confused about it. I'll be honest during the primary. Mary in 2016. I was confused about it. I understand more now for better and for worse why so many people are solidly pro-Trump and will not step outside of the MAGA camp no matter what he says or does. But do I think that this is because Trump voters see themselves as the rightful white inheritors of this country, inheritance of this country? And that every black or brown or non- Christian person is some kind of phony or some kind of second class citizen. No, I know for a

fact that that is not the case. In fact, I would say that Trump's base is less Christian than the left thinks it is and a lot more secular, a lot more pluralistic, a lot more, quote unquote, open-minded about a lot of issues like LGBTQ issues and abortion than the supporters of someone like say DeSantis. And so this is going to be the bell that they're ringing. This is going to be the only analysis that they are able to give because they are very unintelligent and unoriginal. They can't come up with anything interesting to say or true or accurate to say about why people

support Donald Trump. And so they will say ridiculous things like this. Now, I do want to, on that note, I want to read something that Beth Moore said. and because I know that you'll love to hear analysis by Miss Beth Moore. And this is also analyzing the evangelical support of Donald Trump. She said sobered by last night and trying to practice what people call radical acceptance, not of a presidential candidate because surprising things happen, just plainly sobered by the thought that with other individuals to choose from,

masses of people still hail Trump. He's what they actually want in a leader. A bully, she says, verbally abusive, artfully and purposely divisive bully, who has all but left the Republican Party unrecognizable. I can't read the whole thing right now because it's very long. But she says, as the scripture say, I want to seek peace and pursue it. I want to be a person of kindness, love, and compassion. But I've got to move to a place of radical acceptance.

It was one thing to cast a vote for a party's only candidate, reasoning the choices of the lesser of two evils, this is quite another thing. This is wide, open-eyed. We want Trump. Anyway, this is where we are. We can complain all we want about our leaders, but in this government by the people at the end of the day and beginning of November, our candidates are mirrors of ourselves. And so some of the confusion and the questions that she has, okay, that's fine. I can relate to that, as I just said in a primary field where I think that there is a more conservative and Christian candidate, I think that it is odd to pick someone who is less conservative and less in align with Christian ideals. But to say that people want these aspects of Trump

to be verbally abusive, to be a bully, whatever it is, however she describes him, that's not true. Now, is it true for a contingency of people who support Donald Trump? They actually like that he turns his back on people who used to work for him, that he now deems disloyal, that they like the name calling and things like that. I'm sure that there are some people who support Donald Trump who genuinely like and prefer all of those things. That's not true for most of these boomers who are voting for Donald Trump. They see him as someone who is fighting against the system. Again, I'm not necessarily agreeing with all of these things, but they see him as someone who is fighting against the system. They see him as a victim of the system of the

victim of the establishment. They see how these institutions like the intelligence agencies, like state governments, the federal government is coming after him. And they think that they are all coming after him because he is trying to fight for good and to fight against evil. And they saw what happened in the 2020 election when admitted, by Time magazine. There were several entities and several institutions global and national who worked as hard as they possibly could, expended as much money and energy as they possibly could to ensure that Trump was not elected. I think that they just even just look at that and say, okay, there's got to be something to this guy. If all the people that we don't like are after him,

then he must be accomplishing something good. And I think they also look at things like, look, there was peace in the Middle East, unprecedented while Trump was president. Our economy was doing well while Trump was president. We were able to overturn Roe because of Trump's Supreme Court picks. And so I think they're looking at things like that. They don't necessarily like a lot of the things that he says. They don't necessarily like all aspects of his character and personality. But they look at his track record and they see things that they like.

Now again, as we'll get into in just a second, I would say that he's not conservative enough. But I can look at some of the things that he accomplished during his presidency, and I can say, wow, that was really good. The fact that we overturned a row that in and of itself, saving tens of thousands of lives, I can look at that and understand why someone would say he's our guy. He's the only one who can fight against the system. He's the only one that's going to really get things done and accomplish things again, whether you agree with that or not. there is a much more innocuous justification for someone voting for Donald Trump in the primary than someone like Beth Moore is letting on. And Beth, like, I understand, though, your confusion about, okay, we've got these other candidates

over here. If you're a Republican and you're a conservative, why Trump? I get that. I get asking that question. But assuming the worst motives of the people who are voting for him, you're indicting millions of Americans who you are saying all support a bully because they themselves are bullies or love bullies. That's just not true. They're better understandings. Like there are better reasons. Maybe talk to some of those people. Now, some of those people, I think they do some. They do have just

like a cult like mentality about Donald Trump. Like you could say anything. You could tell them. Okay, look, this is what he has said. I bet you don't agree with that. I bet you don't agree with that. They will straight up tell you to your face that you are lying. Or they will find some kind of crazy reason and justification for why he said what he sat or did what he did. It is kind of insane. But a lot of people, they're not paying attention to the 24-7 news cycle. They're not seeing everything that he's posting. They don't know everything that he's said.

And they just look at his list of accomplishments and the way they feel that he is unjustly being targeted. And that's why they're voting for Donald Trump. So, okay, I understand your questions. maybe some of those are fair questions, but the character indictment of all the millions of people who voted for Trump in the primary, I just, I simply don't think that's fair. Now, I am going to give you some reasons why, even though I am happy about some Trump accomplishments, I am concerned about Trump leadership as someone who is a social conservative, as someone who is a Christian first, a Christian conservative. I just don't think that he is conservative enough when it comes to when it comes to policy. So let me read you some things or let me play you some things that he has said and compare it to some other people on the field. And then you can tell me.

You can tell me what you think. Okay. Let's look at abortion. So Trump has not taken part in any of the debates. the primary debate so far leading up to Monday's caucus. He did appear in a Fox News town hall. It took place in Des Moines last Wednesday. And he was asked by this woman, how can I be assured?

How can you reassure me, she said, that you can protect every person's right to life without compromise. And here was Trump's answer. This is thought three. Now, I happen to be, for the exceptions, like Ronald Reagan, with the life of the mother, rape, incest. I have, I just have to be there, I feel. There's a lot of people say a lot of, you know, if you talk five or six weeks, a lot of women don't know if they're pregnant in five or six weeks. I want to get something where people are happy. You know, this has been tearing a country apart for 50 years.

Nobody's been able to do anything. And again, you can only ask that question. and you ask it brilliantly, and I understand exactly where you're coming from. I love where you're coming from. But we still have to win elections. Okay. So he was in context. He was saying the only reason you're able to ask that question is because I helped the overturning of Roe by nominating the Supreme Court justices that were on the majority of that decision.

And that is true. And you can see just so classic Trump that he is extremely charming, even when he is answering a question in a way that I don't like because I don't like his answer. But he does, you know, pay compliments and honor the person who was asking the question. But he did not give her the reassurance that he is going to protect every beating heart in every life. And you can see it there that he is for exceptions for the life of the mother rape and incest. Well, as we all know, abortion is not necessary to save the life of the mother. Delivery is. Either way, the baby has to come out. And so if the life of the mother is at risk, which we should all care about as pro-life people, understanding that mother's life is of equal value,

that baby has to come out, that baby has to be delivered. And so there is no need to dismember or poison or kill that child before the child is delivered. Now, again, this could be a premature delivery. The doctors should do everything possible to try to save both lives. That is the pro-life position. Ascenting to this idea that you have to allow abortion to try to help the health of the mother, the category of health, as defined by Dovey Bolton, that means emotional health, that means mental health. It just opens the door to all kinds of exceptions, which basically allows abortion. through all nine months. And Trump should know that. He should know that as someone who has now been

in pro-life in conservative Republican politics for a while now. He also said he's for exceptions and rape and incest. We've talked about that several times. You're basically giving the death penalty to the child rather than to the rapist. That is morally and ethically egregious. He is right that that is where most people are, though. And he does go on to say, look, if we don't compromise on this issue, basically, then we are going to lose elections and then you lose everything. That is a position. That's a position of a lot of people within the Republican Party. He is not wrong to say that that is the position of a lot of people in their Republican Party. And so a lot of people will listen to that or watch that and say, yeah, that's representative of me. But I did not,

as a staunch pro-lifer, did not get the assurance that I need to know that he is as pro-life as I am. And what I think is more egregious is a comment that he made on Meet the Press several months ago when he was talking about Governor DeSantis's Florida's SB 30, 300, which is the Heartbeat Protection Act. It prohibits abortions once the unborn child has a detectable heartbeat. And here is Trump on Meet the Press talking about that. If a federal ban landed on your desk, if you were reelected, would you sign it? at 15 weeks. Are you talking about a complete ban? A ban at 15 weeks. Well, people, people are starting to think of 15 weeks. That seems to be a number that people are talking about right now. Would you sign that? I would, I would sit down with both sides and I'd negotiate something, and we'll end up with peace in that issue for the first time in 52 years. I'm not going to say I

would or I wouldn't. I mean, DeSancta is willing to sign a five-week and six-week ban. Would you support that? You think that goes too far? I think what he did is a terrible thing. thing and a terrible mistake. Okay. A terrible thing and a terrible mistake to sign a heartbeat bill. Oh, my goodness. A terrible thing and a terrible mistake to protect babies with a beating heart inside the womb.

So I just can't get down with that. I'm sorry. I just can't get down with that. And then here is Trump also talking with Megan Kelly about transgenderism. And she asks a very simple question, can a man become a woman? and here's what Trump had to say. Can a man become a woman? In my opinion, you have a man, you have a woman.

I think part of it is birth. Can the man give birth? No, no, although they'll come up with some answer to that also. Some day I heard just the other day, they have a way that now the man can give birth. No, I would say I'll continue my stance on that. Okay, so at the end, to be fair, he did say I would say no. But this is not a complicated question. It's not a complicated question at all. Can you imagine just a few years ago hedging on that 10 years ago? Can a man become a woman? First of all, it would be impossible to even comprehend why that question is being asked 10 years ago. I think even Hillary Clinton, probably in 2016, would have been able to say, no, a man cannot become a woman. She probably would have said something crazy about gender. But now we have the, a potential Republican nominee not really knowing what to say and kind of him hawing around that

question. Look, I just want someone who's clear on that. And Trump is not the only one who's unclear on that. I think he represents probably a lot of boomer cons who wouldn't know exactly what to say about that. And so maybe that's why he is so appealing to that demographic, because the less online you are, the, I don't know, the less you know really about what's going on and what language to use. I don't really want someone to hedge on that. I want someone to know for sure. But this is a difficult position for Trump

because he has a pretty strong LGBTQ, so-called contingency in his base. And I mean, he's got Caitlin Jenner, who is a big supporter of him. So I think that he is going to have difficulty being extremely clear on that. Now, he has been clear in the past about, you know, I think men and men, sports, women and women's sports and things like. like that I just don't want someone who is going to hedge. It's very, very clear. Now, on immigration, some people are also pointing out, because this was something that people really liked about Donald Trump, but he did give amnesty to cover a 1.8 million dreamers. That was triple Obama's DACA. A lot of

people have also criticized him for not building the wall. And also people also criticize his first step act, which was a soft on crime act. And so for all of the talk about, Trump being very strong on crime and being very tough on immigration and strong on the issues that, you know, evangelicals and conservatives care about. If you look at his record in some ways he was, in some ways he really was not. In some ways, like with the first step act, he was soft on crime. Now, that is something that I care a lot about, that I find egregious to be soft on crime in any way. I think a lot of people look back at how 2020 was handled with the riots and not just 2020 and the riots and all of the just chaos that was allowed to go on in these major cities, but also with COVID. People are still concerned with how he handled COVID, his refusal to fire someone like Christopher Ray, his refusal to fire someone like Fauci.

Now, some people will defend that. But those are concerns that people like me have. And then if you look at someone like Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, also for me, just isn't conservative enough on these issues. When it comes to abortion, she said this. This was April 28, 2023. She says some states have passed laws protecting life. I commend them for that. Other states have doubled down an abortion. I wish that wasn't the case, but it is. Different people in different places are taking different paths. What in the moral relativism? That's what the founders of our country envisioned is the reality of living. in a democracy. I said I want to save as many babies and help as many moms as possible to do that

at the federal level. The next president must find national consensus. You don't save any lives if you can't enact your position into law. And so I would say that that is similar to Trump. She is more pragmatic, more willing to compromise when it comes to abortion because she just wants something that is able to get passed. Again, I would say that is a position. That is probably the more popular position to take. I'm giving you my perspective as a conservative Christian and pro lifer. On December 11th, she was asked about the Kate Cox abortion case, which we have talked about. We talked about on this podcast that this woman in Texas who wanted an abortion because, tragically, her child was diagnosed with trisomy. Was it trisomy 13? I think. I think, anyway,

It's a pretty fatal diagnosis. You die either in utero right after birth. Very rarely can they live into their teen years. And so she wanted to abort this child. Texas law doesn't allow for that because her life was not at risk. And so she traveled to actually get a 18 plus week abortion. And so in response to that, Nikki Haley said, I don't know the details of the case you're referring to. But what I can tell you is that the issue didn't need to be in the hands of unlawfulful.

elected justices. It needs to be in the hands of the people because it's a personal issue for every woman to me. What does that mean? What does that mean? That is not staunchly pro-life. That is not a staunch position when it comes to protecting the life of the child. We should not allow the murder of children just because they might be disabled or may have a hard life. That child is still made in the image of God. That child is still has value. Is that the principle that we apply to children outside of the womb? Well, it certainly should not be. She has made several comments about abortion that are similar to that. I guess they don't have to go through all of them. But then here she is on transgenderism. This is Sot-6.

Now, can a man become a woman? There's been a lot that's been talked about when it comes to all of these roles and all of these issues. We want to make sure people can live any way they want to live. I don't think government needs to be in control of anybody's life. You go live the way you want to live. You should be free to live the way you want to live. And government and everybody else should stay out of your way. I think that, you know, you always have to believe in freedom and allowing people to live the life the way they want to live.

And if that's how they choose, then, you know, I don't think government should have any say in that. Okay. So let me give you some context on that because I don't want to de contextualize her. She is talking about before 18, she's against puberty blockers. she's against these surgeries to change your body. After 18, she's saying that anyone should be able to do what they want to do. Government should stay out of the way.

The problem with that, of course, is that if someone can change their license, someone can change their identity, and then someone can change their body, then it is very difficult to keep that man out of women's spaces. It is very hard to make a case that that person should not be in a female prison, that that person should not be in a female domestic abuse shelter, that that person should not be swimming on, you know, the woman's swimming team. And so that, again, that position is probably representative of a lot of people. She's trying to get that independent vote. That's not for me. That's not where I stand. That's not the position that I'm in. I think a lot of conservative women are also just notably more conservative than both Trump and Haley.

Now, when it comes to DeSantis, I just find that he is more conservative on these issues. As I already said, he signed SB 300, the Heartbeat Protection Act, which I'm, which I'm thankful for when he has been asked to articulate his positions on abortion. He says, on issues that are fundamental, he asks, why are you in office? Are you in office to put your finger? in the wind and try to contort yourself into a pretzel, which I would say was both Trump and Haley's position, by the way, on abortion? Or he asks, are you an office to stand up for things you believe in? He's also explained how he's made changes to help people afford babies as well, such as making

all baby items tax free in Florida. He was also asked in September of last year by Glenn Beck, can a man become a woman? And here's what he had to say. Let me ask you some. Can a man become a woman? No. How ridiculous that we're even asking that question. And, you know, sometimes people will knock me because they'll say that he's talking about woke and you shouldn't worry about, like, like people say, who cares about it, right? Look, society needs to be grounded in truth. And if you're telling me a man can get pregnant and you're telling me a man can become a woman, that is not true. And I'm not going to accept that as true. And I'm not going to be complicit in a lie. And if our society is built on a mountain of lies,

even on those issues, which maybe some people don't care as much about, how are you going to have a situation where you're going to have, get things right? Yes, that's absolutely right. It's not difficult to answer that question. Can a man become a woman? Like you don't need to him, ha, you don't need to hedge. You don't need to, as he said about the pro-life issue, can torture yourself into a pretzel. You know, that's what people really liked about DeSantis, is that he is extremely clear and extremely articulate. and explaining the position that not only he has on these issues, but that a lot of us have. He is, in my opinion, the most conservative choice that we have. And he has a record of implementing, of applying that conservatism in a way that makes positive widespread change and has made Florida the beacon of freedom that it is. That's why people are leaving states to go to Florida because of DeSantis's policies. And I'll just be honest, it is very difficult for me to understand why you.

he isn't doing better than he is in the primary. Like I'm not saying that any campaign is perfect. Of course we can analyze all different campaigns and say they should be doing this. They should be saying this. They should be going to this place. They shouldn't be saying this. The online people represent whatever it is. Like there are plenty of analyses that we can give.

But when it comes to his record, he is by far the most conservative choice that we make. I'm not indicting your character. I'm not questioning your morality. If you were voting for one of these other people, we're all going to have to come together at one point and figure this out and decide what we're going to do in November. But when it comes to the candidates in the field right now, yes, I think DeSantis is the most conservative on the issues that matter most to me, on these culture, war, moral issues, issues that we know on this podcast are not primarily political issues, but are biblical issues. gender, abortion, the family, these things are biblical Genesis 1 issues. And all of that really matters to me. And I think that he's right when he says that society has to be grounded in truth.

These are not like peripheral issues that we can just push to the side and think, oh, we don't need to care about that. We can just care about the economy. That's how we got where we are right now. That's what the Republican Party has been for decades. And that's why we are even debating if a man can become a woman. We have to have a culture warrior in office. And obviously, policy-wise, he has enacted protections for women in sports and women in domestic abuse shelters and things like that. And I'm just grateful for it. So that's my stance. I know that for saying that there's a ton of Trump people that are going to come online and say how awful that is, how terrible that is to be for another candidate in the primary. Sorry about it. It's, you know what, this is a free country. We're

allowed to articulate our views and to support the people we want to support and to make the case for them. And when it comes to their records, I just think DeSantis is the most conservative pick that we got. So anyway, we'll see what happens. All right, that's enough of my analysis. That's where I stand on it. That's where the race stands right now. We'll see what happens. I'll bring you the analysis as it comes. And right now I want you to hear from Steve Dase. As I said, he is an expert, especially when it comes to Iowa politics. He's going to give us the breakdown of what really happened and what he thinks we can expect going for. Steve, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

I know that you are in high demand, especially today. So let loose. Break down. What happened last night? Well, I think there's two trains of thought here. On the primary side, there's one. And then what it means maybe going forward in a potential general election alley, there's another.

So let's start on the primary side because to the victors go, the spoils. the president and his team should be given their flowers. This was a dominant performance. They more than doubled the all-time caucus margin of victory record set by Bob Dole. Not the year he won the nomination, by the way. It was set in 1988. But, I mean, this was a very dominant victory for sure. And it turned out that the public perception of his support ended up being accurate.

So there's no question that it's a significant uphill climb to dethrone him in his in this primary moving forward. So I think that's one of the big narratives in this primary electorate. I think Nikki Haley doesn't have a base, really, within the Republican Party. I mean, essentially her base is basically the John Kasich voter. That's essentially her base. And then for Ron DeSantis, he was able to peel away about 20% of Trump's support. You know, traditionally, Iowa punches two or three tickets out every cycle.

And so he gets one of those tickets. and I think what he'll need to monitor moving forward is, you know, on righty Twitter, where you and I have to hang out some, it's part of our gig, you know, there's kind of this Twitter, Grift Corps, you know, mythology, we erect a scientist, and none of that's true. His favorables have remained very high with both Trump voters and Republican voters as a whole this entire time. And I think as long as he can not risk, you know, those favorable's plummeting, because that would mean a hindrance to his overall political brand at just 45 years old.

As long as he cannot risk that, then he wants to continue to challenge the president or the former president for this nomination, then he's perfectly fine to do so. If I were advising him the minute you start to see those favorables erode, I would take that as voter saying you gave it your best shot and this isn't your time and not to take on unnecessary water. But I think those are all decisions that will all be made, you know, probably by the end of February through the South Carolina primary, and I think people will reassess where they're at from there. So that's kind of the primary train of thought. Do you want to respond to that at all before we

talk about what it means for a general election? Well, I have a lot of thoughts and a lot of things to say. If I remember correctly, Joe Biden came in fourth in the Iowa caucus, correct? Correct. And then came away with the nomination. Now, there's a lot, I think, that happened in between Iowa and South Carolina for Joe Biden that we don't have time to get into today. but it is not unprecedented that someone would lose Iowa and still have the nomination. What happened in 2016 with Trump in Iowa? He finished almost third. Okay.

Actually, him and Rubio were neck in neck for second. He barely edged out in a cruise or Rubio for second and Cruz won overall by about four points. Okay. So are you surprised with the results in Iowa? I mean, obviously we've got a strong evangelical base in Iowa. You would imagine that someone like DeSantis would have a pretty heavy poll with them, but obviously most of them went for Trump. At the same time, though, there's some conflicting numbers that say that white evangelicals didn't turn out enough for Donald Trump

or as much as they had in the past. So what do you make of the evangelical response to the candidates on the table now? Well, that gets us to the general election aspect of things. There are ominous signs. And, you know, the way my mind works, I try to always think about what do my opponents and enemies think and try to get ahead of that? Rather than, you know, sit around and, you know, smoke cigars and slap five. I want to know, okay, we just beat the bad guys. What are they going to try to come at next?

You know, and so if I were at the DNC today, here's what I would be saying. Donald Trump won an extremely record low turnout in a race that's 97% white, mostly rural, and white evangelical turnout plummeted nine points from where it was at when he ran in 2016. 64% of caucus goers in 2016 to 55% this year. Correct. There is simply no way. The Republicans could nominate Heinz ketchup. It doesn't matter who the Republican nominee is.

they are not winning a general election with a depressed amount of white evangelical turnout. It doesn't matter what percent. You know, there's always this talk that Trump has this unique association with white evangelicals. Actually, his overall number wasn't much different that he received in both of his elections. Ali, it wasn't much different than what Mitt Romney got in 2012. It's just his turnout was larger. Okay. So it's not the size of the slice of the pie.

It's the size of the pie. So it's not that he received 78 or 68 or whatever it was. percent of the evangelical vote. It's that it was down nine points from 2016. And that also, if you look at the overall turnout, this is the worst turnout in the history of the Iowa caucuses. It's not the lowest number. But when you consider that we have a record number of Republicans, and this is the number we posted, per capita, it's the worst. We had a 41 percent drop in overall turnout from 2016. There's a few factors that you could point to, you know, and say, hey, Steve, you were the one complaining about the weather. That's true. It still sucks here.

A lot of people may have thought, too, when they looked at the polls and said, well, they're so far ahead, I don't have to risk the cold. I'll just stay home. That's part of it, too. I'm hoping those are true. Those are the reasons why, and this is unique. But here's the thing, Ali, last year, last year, last year, last year. And in 2022, what did we see? We did not see the red wave that we were promised. We did not see the red wave that we were promised. outside of, say, Florida and Iowa, it didn't materialize almost anywhere else. So I can't think of a time that a political party had a victorious general election with a depressed primary electorate. That almost never happens. You cannot win with just your base, but you can't win without a completely energized base either. So how much of this is people are like, well, I'm bored, he's going to win anyway, and I'll see you in November.

That could certainly be a factor. But what concerns me is that last year, our base was pretty. demoralized and had depressed turnout as well. And then again, and then the other thing you look at is in the foremost populous counties of Iowa, Donald Trump averaged only 41% in those counties. So 10 points what he ran statewide. And Iowa doesn't have a lot of urban areas that are Democrat anyway. So we're talking suburbs and exurbs. And those have been the kryptonite in the Trump era. Now, in a state like Iowa, which still has a lot of critical mass in rural areas, Donald Trump can overcome that with his with his rural support but but Arizona doesn't have that Georgia doesn't

have that Pennsylvania doesn't have that Michigan doesn't have that Wisconsin doesn't have that Georgia doesn't have that North Carolina doesn't have that and so we are left again with Donald Trump's going to have to show moving forward that yes his base seems to be maybe more energized his hardcore base than maybe it's ever been right now given what they're trying to do to him and everything else which is understandable but in terms of 294 days from today and a path to 270. There's nothing in the Iowa numbers at all that indicate he is more electable in a general election now than he was 48 hours ago. If anything, you see the same trend lines that were problems for Republicans the last several cycles. Right. You know, Ron DeSantis outperformed

what people thought. They outperformed his polling numbers. That was something that you predicted and you were correct about that. A lot of people are saying, well, Nikki Haley, she is going to run away with the number two spot easily. Yet when I talk to people, you know, the listeners who are in Iowa, I'm sure you feel the same way, I get a lot of. Now, again, this is kind of just pulling from my audience, so it's not necessarily indicative of everyone in Iowa. But the suburban moms that follow me are saying, well, I and everyone I know are voting

for DeSantis. And they'll say, I know some people voting for Trump, but they'll say, I know no one voting for Nikki Haley. There are no Nikki Haley signs in my neighborhood. there are a lot of DeSantis signs, a few Trump signs, but there are no Nikki Haley signs. Now, you're saying that most of her voters are coming from the kind of John Kasich camp, I guess. And Democrats, correct? There are non-Republicans, I should say.

Non-Republicans. So, Independence and Democrats went out and they voted for Nikki Haley. Correct. So over, so we actually had more non-Republicans vote in the 2016 caucuses, 21 percent, than the 16. percent that voted this time. But this time, they were all either Trump voters who don't want to register Republican or more likely for Haley. For example, the only reason Haley was even in the ballpark for second place last night is she beat Ron DeSantis 32 to 8 among non-Republican voters. In my suburban district, which is one of the most populous, densely populated areas in the

entire state of Iowa. The biggest mall in this state is, you know, a 20-minute walk from my house, basically. You know, I saw several people that I know are Democrats, that I know are Democrat operatives, walked in to campaign, or with Haley stuff, and registered Republican. We had 140 people vote in my precinct. 33 of them were people who were Democrats that switched to Republicans, and they all voted for Haley.

And she narrowly ended up winning my precinct as a result. In fact, when I got up as the precinct captain for DeSantis to give my speech for Ron, I actually pointed out in the room the Democratic operatives were there in my speech. I said, hey, one of the reasons I'm supporting Ron is like our governor, Kim Reynolds. He has reduced the Democratic Party to smoldering ash, which is why Democrat operatives are sitting at these tables over here

to come over here and vote for Dickie Haley. They don't have a party in Iowa. So they have to come over here and vote in ours. I said that right to them. You know, and so that's that's based. So within the right, her base is the Kasek Republican. That would, so she would have gotten 10% last night,

may struggle to get out of double digits. She got into the high teens because of the amount of Democrats that crossed over to vote for her last night. Which is so interesting that as someone who served in the Trump administration, who in some ways has certainly been conservative as the governor of South Carolina, that she can garner so many Kasich-like votes, that she can garner so many independent votes. I don't know if it's because she's been wishy-washy on abortion. She's been wishy-washy on the trans issue. She's obviously more of a hawk than a lot of people on the stage. So, but it is interesting to me that she has gotten so much independent support when really, I mean, she's, she's still a Republican. Like, she's still pretty conservative on a lot of things.

It just is surprising to me that they are willing to vote for someone who was in the Trump administration. It really has not bashed Trump as much as I would imagine a lot of independents would like their candidate to. Well, here's what's happening with her. What's happening with her is, you know, I know it seems as if Mitch McConnell will be Senate Republican leader long after you and I are six feet under, and that might be correct. Okay. But notwithstanding people like him in places like Washington, D.C., across the country, much of the corporatist wing of the Republican Party has been annihilated. Even Republicans who are favorable to that wing, like say your governor, for example, Greg Abbott, have to, at the very least when the cameras are on, tow, completely different line because you're just not going to get away with the George W. Bush era talking points out in the open. You'll get eviscerated. She is adopting them openly because it is very clear that she is allowing her candidacy to be a cudgel by which that wing of the party can be reemergent. And that's where all the talk about her being a Trump running mate is coming from.

That's why I think the Koch brother dropped 70 million on her campaign in the final weeks in Iowa. I don't think that was for campaign spending, Allie. I think that was a doubt. I think that was a, the Trump team, on one hand, the former president's personal fortune is under attack in New York right now. On the other hand, they are struggling to raise money and they need a massive legal defense fund against all of these indictments. And so I think that that was an advertisement to the Trump, to Donald Trump and his family to say, hey, if you put her on the ticket, there's a lot more where that comes from.

We can write a lot of checks to help your cash flow situation. Because if you follow MAGA online, they do not like NACA. Nikki Haley. I have not seen any of the hardcore MAGA people say, oh, yeah, you know, Nikki Haley might give us a balanced ticket. They all think that Vivek is going to be the VP pick, which I don't think at all. But they won't make it. They won't make any of the decisions. I went through this with Donald Trump in 2016. When he was wooing me to work for him, I never met Jared Kushner, didn't know he existed. I didn't have to go through any of these people. I dealt directly with the former president and his personal assistant and campaign manager. The minute he

became the presumptive Republican nominee, the family closed the circle in the loop. Jared Kushner came in, started running things. That's what will happen here. The minute that he becomes the presumptive nominee, if that were to happen, everybody that's not around him now, but really ran the White House, will come back. And that's where these kinds of deals get cut. You can see the family internal squabbling about this in media. Don Jr., who's much more aligned with people like us, who's much more in tune with kind of the movement on the right. He's like, no way. I'll do everything I can possibly do for Nimrodda to not be the nominee. His sister, Laura, is out there saying,

hey, I think she'd be pretty good. I think that's an internal fight in the family because they do have, you know, there's a reason why the kids went to that New York courtroom to testify. What the Democrats are trying to do is essentially steal the Trump empire from him. And so they're facing some existential threats here beyond just trying to win an election.

And I do think there is a serious wing within that family. The kinds of people that were the reasons we were often, And if we were disappointed with Trump when he was president, it's because these people were the ones making the decisions, the Kushner Wing, I think they would absolutely push hard for somebody like Nikki Haley. And I think that's why the hardcore MAGA movement people that you and I know, they know that too.

That's why they're being so militant against her now. They're trying to send, or at least hoping to send a message. Can I just be honest, a Trump-Haley ticket, like as involved as I am in the political, commentating culture war sphere, I feel. that malaise that we were talking about. I do not feel excited to go out and vote for that in November. Now, of course, when it comes down to it, anyone is better than Joe Biden. Of course, I think that ticket is better than Joe Biden, but am I excited about it?

Am I mobilized? And if I feel that, if I feel that, knowing what we know about what is it stake. And I know everything about what is at stake. I mean, as much as a person can anyway, I don't feel excited about that. If I don't feel excited about that, I know for sure. that the other moms and the preschool carpool line are not feeling excited about that either. There's a dirty little secret here that a lot of times we don't want to talk about because it's really not good for business. But, you know, there's a lot of members of your audience that didn't

write a book last year. And they almost sold as many books as Carrie Lake did. This idea that this is some impenetrable brand, I mean, there's a reason why you pay for bot farms and do things like that to inflate the perception of your worth. So this idea that this is an impenetrable brand and all of America is just lining up to join it is just simply not true. The comments that you just made from the heart just reflect that as somebody who's as hardcore on the front lines, involved in the party and everything as you are. And that is why I said at the start of this year, one of my 10 predictions was if the rate, if the election is Trump Biden, RFK Jr. is going to break Ross Perrault's modern day record for the highest vote percentage. by a non-major party candidate. He's going to break it.

Now, unlike Perrault who mostly took from H.W. Bush, you know, it's going to be an interesting ratio how much he takes from each side because there are, you know, that's funny, too. There was only one age demo that Donald Trump didn't win last night in Iowa. Youngest voters and Ron DeSantis won them going away. I know. I love to see that. I can see that entire demographic voting for RFK Jr. in the fall.

And I think, by the way, I think that's true on the Democratic side, too. I could see that entire demographic voting for him, too, on the other side. So I don't know, you know, necessarily the media will tell you if RFK Jr's hurting Biden or not, they'll say, you know, this has to stop. If he's hurting Trump, they'll say it's great for democracy, you know. But I do think he'll get over 20 percent in November if the choices are Biden and Trump. Yeah, you know what? I think that you're right.

I think that's really interesting, especially with the suburban moms that I just talked about. Amazingly, they might be willing to compromise on some other stuff. just to vote for someone who is so for medical freedom. And that's honestly a contrast from Trump. You got the person who's anti-vaccine for the person who... Yeah, go ahead. It doesn't make them feel like when I'm in the church foyer or atrium, I have to be ashamed of talking about politics.

Do not underestimate that factor. That is absolutely a thing for sure. And you know that. You know that even better than me. Well, thank you so much, Steve. I really, really appreciate it. Everyone, make sure go out, listen to Steve's show because he'll have a lot more analysis actually on his show today and I'm sure the rest of the week. Thanks so much,

Steve. Thanks, Sally. Always good to see you. God bless. All right. We got all the serious stuff out of the way, all the important stuff. And now we are going to talk about something that's in the grand scheme of things very unimportant. But it's fun. We're going to talk about the Emmys that apparently occurred last night. And we're going to rate some outfits. Let's change up the scale, Bree. Let's do 10 being the best this time because last time that was very good. confusing. Ten being the best, one being the worst. Let's rate some of these outfits. Okay, let me scroll to where it is in my document. Okay, I don't know all these people. Okay, I know a lot of these people. Let's do Suki Waterhouse. We got the picture. Is she pregnant? Yes. She's pregnant. Okay. Well,

I love, I love a pregnant gal on the red as a white beige carpet. The white carpet, I guess. And she is wearing red. Now, I do not like this dress. I think there is a lot that can be done that is beautiful for maternity outfits. But this is not one. This is not the style that I love. And you know, I actually, I picked this angle because there's one from the side and it is all hanging out. And so. Yeah. If people are just listening to this, it's basically like a rectangle that's just. covering the front of her torso, but the side and the back is all out. And wow, that's a lot. I'm going to give this a three. I'm going to give it a two. Okay. Yeah. Again, as I always say, very beautiful woman. Pregnancy is beautiful and can be accentuated and highlighted. This just as very, like, it's hard to do a drop waist. It's hard to do a drop waste at all ever in any way, unless you're a flapper girl. But pregnant, that's an interesting choice.

So yeah, I'm going to go with the three. Okay. I don't know who Suki Waterhouse is, by the way. She's Robert Pattinson's girlfriend. Okay. Does she, is she in any... She's a singer. Okay.

Okay, Suki. Okay, let's do Allie Wong. Okay. Yeah, I saw this yesterday. I don't like this. Now, Ali Wong, as a comedian, is very funny. She is one of the few female comedians that makes me laugh out loud. But I don't love this.

I don't. I don't love the mixed media thing going on. I'm going to, well, it's a little better than the last one because the fit is nice. I'm going to give it a four and a half. I'm going to give it a three. Three. Okay. So better to you than the last one.

Yes. slightly. But not much. What do you hate about it? It's just there's so much. There's so much. There's so much. The top, the black on the top and then the foil.

Yeah, the black. I can't really see that. But you're right. Yeah, why? I don't know. So strange. I don't know. Okay.

Donald Glover. It's hard to see the details in this one. Yeah. I mean, it's not bad, I guess. And plus he's, so he's wearing black and white and he's against a black and white background. Yeah. So I don't think I. love for the guy a like blazer with what looks like a camy underneath it.

Yeah. That reminds me of when Michael Scott accidentally bought a female suit, a pants suit, and he didn't realize it wasn't, it was a woman's pantsuit. But other than that, I think it looks kind of cool. So I'm going to go with a five. Yeah. I like the details. I mean, they're flowers, but I don't think it's like overly feminine.

Yeah. I think six. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I can get down with that. Okay. Jenna Ortega.

She's Wednesday? Yeah. Okay. Wednesday, Adam. Okay. We got a T-length here. Mm-hmm. Um.

Oh, I think we could have done so much better. I'm going to go with a four. Really? Yes. I think it's kind of cool. Maybe you can't see the details all the way. It's kind of like a trellis with like four. hours and vines and stuff. Okay, I can barely see that. I think it's kind of cool when you see the details.

So I would say seven. I kind of like it. Oh, wow. See, I think it's not a great color. It is a very washout color. That's fair. For someone who is fair. Now, someone who had darker skin, I think it would probably look better. It's not a bad dress. I just don't know if that is the best on her. I think so many colors will look so pretty on her. That's not one of them, in my opinion. Okay, I don't know who this person is. Don't know how to pronounce. their name. A.O. Edibiri? Yeah, Iio, I think. Iyo. Okay. Okay. So I saw this yesterday and I actually said that I liked it at first. But we could do better. We could do better. Yeah. I'm going to go with a four and a half. Yeah. I'd say five. I think the leather is cool, though. Yeah. And I like

the shape on her. I think it's very flattering. But yeah, the bottom. Weird. A little trash baggie. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Okay. April Ludgate. I mean, Aubrey Plaza. Okay. Here's my hot take. I know that that looks so bizarre because if you're listening to this, she's got a huge sewing needle through her chest. Not through her chest. Through the chest of the dress. And obviously that's supposed to be a statement. You know, like it's supposed to be weird. But I think other than that and other than the box, I'm going toxiness at the top, which doesn't, like, show any shape at all. I think she looks amazing. This is probably the best I've ever seen her look for hair and makeup, I think. Oh, yeah. Her hair and makeup are amazing for sure.

Great color on her. Not everyone can pull off that color. Oh, my gosh, I would look awful in that color. But she looks great. And I say I don't always like her style. But besides the random sewing needle, I think she looks really, really good. So I'm going to give her probably, I'm going to give her just general look a seven. Okay.

I'm going to give it a five. Okay. You said we could do better. I feel like that was the theme of the night. Yeah. I feel like everyone could have. Me judging from my couch. Yeah, I know.

You all could have done better. Yeah. I know. But that's, you know what? They're supposed to be scrutinized. They're supposed to be judged. Their outfits are supposed to be judged. That's why they take all the pictures.

That's what they sign up for. them and they're all beautiful human beings made in the image of God and I hope that Jesus saves all of them. Okay. Does that make everyone feel better? We're just rating their clothes because it's fun. All right. Before we head out of here, I just got to tell you about one more thing, one more thing for today. And that is just a reminder to check out a new docu series on Blaze Originals by Glenn Beck. He has gone to Liberty County, Texas to give you the real story of Colony Ridge. This is a development, a community that is being built at a stunning rate. We're talking like 200 lots a day.

And the interesting thing is, is that all these houses almost are housing illegals. What is going on? Who is behind it? Who is funding it? Why and how is this happening? That's what Glenn Beck is digging into. So go to blazerriginals.com. Use code colony ridge.

You'll get $30 off your subscription. You'll get access to this and all of our other behind-the-scenes stuff. the real story of Colony Ridge, go to blazerregionals.com, code Colony Ridge. All right, that's all we've got time for today. We will see you back here tomorrow. Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself.

On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this T-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us.