Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 938 | Border Standoff: Texas vs. Biden | Guest: Jason Buttrill

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

Today we're talking about the Supreme Court's decision to side with the Biden administration in a case involving a razor-wire fence along Texas’ border, in effect allowing Border Patrol agents to... cut the wire intended to hold back migrants from entering. This move felt like a betrayal to conservatives after Justice Amy Coney Barrett sided against enforcing the border. We discuss what's going to happen now and why Christians are so confused about the immigration issue. Then, head writer and chief researcher for Glenn Beck Jason Buttrill joins to discuss the latest Blaze Originals documentary, "The Real Story of Colony Ridge." We explain what's really going on in Colony Ridge, Texas’ fastest-growing housing development that seems to be targeting and exploiting illegal immigrants. We look at the shocking numbers of migrants entering our country and how we should respond to what's going on at the border in light of what our government is doing there. Check out 'The Real Story of Colony Ridge' at BlazeOriginals.com. Use code "COLONY RIDGE" when you subscribe to BlazeTV for $30 off your annual subscription. Go to alliemerch.com to get our new Valentine's Day merch! --- Timecodes: (03:00) Supreme Court Texas border ruling (07:10) Christian confusion about immigration (16:30) Conservative betrayal (20:00) Fighting back (24:53) Crimes committed by illegal immigrants (29:25) Jason Buttrill / Colony Ridge (40:00) The government's interest in open borders (42:53) Cartel activity (46:39) People tempted to defend the border --- Today's Sponsors: A'Del — go to adelnaturalcosmetics.com and enter promo code "ALLIE" for 25% off your first order! We Heart Nutrition — nourish your body with research-backed ingredients in your vitamins at WeHeartNutrition.com and use promo code ALLIE for 20% off. Jase Medical — get up to a year’s worth of many of your prescription medications delivered in advance. Go to JaseMedical.com today and use promo code “ALLIE". --- Links: Fox News: "Supreme Court sides with Biden in Texas border razor wire case; Border Patrol Union blasts decision" https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-sides-biden-texas-border-razor-wire-case New York Times: "Texas Housing Developer Accused of Preying on Hispanic Buyers" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/20/us/colony-ridge-texas-builder-prosecution.html --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 937 | Goodbye, DeSantis. What Now? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-937-desantis-trump-rfk-the-state-of-the-race/id1359249098?i=1000642547441 Ep 144 | Illegal Immigration https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-144-illegal-immigration/id1359249098?i=1000445773203 Ep 388 | The Border Crisis & Loving the Foreigner | Guest: Daniel Horowitz https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-388-the-border-crisis-loving-the-foreigner/id1359249098?i=1000513599466 Ep 807 | 'Loving the Foreigner' Means Opposing Illegal Immigration | Guest: Barry Latzer https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-807-loving-the-foreigner-means-opposing-illegal/id1359249098?i=1000613422455 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.
Starting point is 00:00:19 We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. The Supreme Court has ruled that the Biden administration can continue to remove razor wire at the border that has been put there by Texas to inhibit illegal border crossings. What's going to happen now? Greg Abbott says he's not going to say. stand for this. What is this tension, this conflict going to look like, and how in the world did we get
Starting point is 00:01:04 here? And why are Christians so confused about the immigration issue? We're going to talk about all of that and more on today's episode of Relatable, which is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to Good Ranchers.com. Use code Allie. Check out that's good ranchers.com. Hey, y'all, welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far. Also, great news. In addition to the merch that we announced yesterday, the self-love won't save you. Valentine's merch, we just added crewnecks. So we've got t-shirts, we've got some little toots and we've got stickers. And then we have these cute crewnecks. Self-love won't save you because it won't. And I guess I should just promote my book where that message comes from. You're not enough. And that's okay. Escape in the toxic culture of self-love. Hey, related bros. This would be a great little Valentine's Day package for the, the related gal in your life. You can get this book. It's available on Amazon, wherever. And then you can also get some relatable merch and you can put it in a little relatable tote for her. Give it to her on Valentine's Day. She will feel so loved. And you know what? You have no excuse for later bros because
Starting point is 00:02:20 I'm telling you right now, Valentine's Day is February 14th. So don't forget about it. All right. We've got a lot to talk about today. We're moving, moving on past the results of the Iowa caucus last week and then DeSantis dropping out. We analyzed that on yesterday. We analyzed that on yesterday's episode, rather, and y'all have given me your very diverse and passionate opinions about that. Now we are going to talk about something that unites us all as conservatives, and that is the craziness that's going on at the border. We're going to talk at the end of the episode with Jason Butchrell. He's the researcher for Glenn Beck, and we're going to talk about this crazy documentary that is available for Blaze subscribers right now on Colony Ridge.
Starting point is 00:03:04 this huge development in Texas that is targeting illegal migrants in other countries telling them to come here into Texas and to live in this very affordable development. But there is even more than that to this story. And so we'll be talking about that in relation to the main topic of today's episode, which is what's going on at the Texas border, thanks to the Biden administration and the SCOTUS ruling from yesterday. So the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday sided with the Biden administration in a case involving roughly 30 miles of razor wire fence along Texas's border with Mexico granting an emergency appeal, which allows Border Patrol agents to cut the razor wire that Texas had installed along the border near Eagle Pass, Texas, while the litigation continues. So it could be ultimately that Texas is, that Texas is right to put this razor wire. in place is established, is recognized, but while litigation is going on, the Supreme Court ruled, oh yeah, the Biden administration can go and tear it down. A federal judge initially ruled in favor of the Biden administration, but then a decision by the Fifth Circuit, U.S. Court of Appeals reversed that decision last month, and then the Biden administration tried to appeal again to the
Starting point is 00:04:25 Supreme Court, the Biden administration argued that the wire impedes Border Patrol agents from reaching migrants as they crossed the river and that in any case federal immigration laws trump trump uh trump texas his own efforts to stem the flow of migrants into the country this is not the first time the biden administration has tried to inhibit texas from securing its own borders they've also said you can't use the buoys and the rio grande now you can't use the razor wire they already can't use very much force at all they really just have to help migrants come into the country. There's really not much that they can do. Most people don't know that even the National Guard, they're not able to use fatal force. So even if they're watching the cartels
Starting point is 00:05:11 traffic people across the border, there's really nothing that they can do about it. They are there to help bring the migrants across. And of course, the hope is that you can deport people once they get there, but even that process is very difficult. I think a misunderstanding that people have have is that everyone coming to the border, they're all these desperate, destitute migrants that are running for their lives. They're seeking asylum. They're all refugees. That is not the case. Most of these people have some kind of resources. They're paying the cartels, thousands of dollars to get across the border. It incentivizes trafficking, human trafficking, sex trafficking, child sex trafficking. It incentivizes drug trafficking, gun trafficking. It incentivizes chaos and evil.
Starting point is 00:05:56 It is bad for the countries from which these people are leaving. It is bad. for the people at the border. It's bad for the citizens of the United States. And gosh, Christian women in particular, they get really caught up on this. They get really tripped up. Believing that the Bible's call for us to love the foreigner means that we must allow open borders. That we cannot enforce any kind of legal barrier at the border because that is rude. That is evil. That is wicked. And because these people are made in the image of God, basically we are not allowed to enforce any kind of border or immigration law. But of course, that is allowing your brain to be turned to oatmeal. That, of course, is not right. That's not true. That's not good. That's not righteous.
Starting point is 00:06:42 A country must be sovereign. And in order to be sovereign, so it can protect the right and the well-being of its citizens, it has to have a border. And in order to have a border, you have to enforce the border. You have to have laws. You have to have a prohibition on people illegally entering the country. So Christian women, I think are empathy shamed, their empathy bullied into being liberal on immigration, saying, you know, we have to be welcoming to these people because they are poor and destitute. And the Bible commands us to love the foreigner. Look, the Bible also talks about the importance of being able to protect a city with walls. A man without self-control is like a city without walls. And that is not a commandment to. build walls around a country, but it does speak to the principle that not having protective borders, not having a wall, whether that is an actual physical wall or just some kind of border enforcement, that it causes chaos, that it makes the people inside the country vulnerable. Obviously, you know the story of Nehemiah.
Starting point is 00:08:06 and the wall that was built to protect God's people. There is actually no principle whatsoever that is found in scripture that would say that having a border, that having a wall, that having barbed wire, that having buoys in order to protect the citizenry of a country is evil or wrong or bad or lacking in compassion. It really is just a result of people's minds being turned to more. mush and it is an inability to see things as they are. That mass migration, illegal migration, while it may benefit some people, it is bad. It's bad for the world. It's bad for the people migrating. It's bad for the poor people at the border on both sides of the border. It's great for the cartels. It's great for the most wicked people in the world, the most bloodthirsty people in the world. It's great for the rapists and the human traffickers and the drug smithes. And the drug
Starting point is 00:09:06 smugglers at the border. It's awesome for them. It's awesome for the corrupt people in government who are lining their pockets because of how the cartels are making their money through the trafficking across our poorest border. It's awesome for them. It's bad for everyone else. And so it is actually not compassionate. It's not loving. It's not empathetic whatsoever to advocate for open borders or porous borders. And here's also what I ask. What I ask those who say, you know, it's just inhumane. It's inhumane to allow this razor wire. It's inhumane to allow these boo.
Starting point is 00:09:44 It's inhumane to do X, Y, Z to protect the border. I want to know, okay, what immigration enforcement do you support? What, what method for protecting the border do you think it's humane? Like, should we just have people standing there saying, please, do not enter. It would be awesome if you turned around. Oh, please, oh please. Can you not come in illegally?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Like, do you think that we should be able to enforce our borders at all? And most of them will say, well, yeah, I think so. Most of these Christians wouldn't say that they actually advocate for open borders. They wouldn't call themselves communists, although that is a completely communist radical position to say that we should not have borders. But they wouldn't call themselves that. Some might even say, oh, no, I'm a Christian conservative too. I love America. Not so fast. Not really. I'm not saying that you're not a Christian, but you have no
Starting point is 00:10:40 conservative values to speak of and you have no patriotism to speak of if you believe that we do not have a right to enforce our borders. Because you don't believe that we are a legitimate sovereign country. Again, a government cannot protect the rights of its citizens by enforcing the law. If it is not a sovereign country, and in order to be a sovereign country, you have to have borders. So tell me, if you are not open borders, but you just say the razor wire is too mean. The buoys are too mean. Tell me, what's your, what is your suggestion? What's your method? What do you think is the best way to protect the border? And for those who say, oh, deporting migrants, it is so inhumane. It's wrong. It lacks compassion and empathy and Christlikeness and whatever. You're for the sanctuary cities that we have in the country that refuse to comply with ICE. The ice, when ICE wants to deport the violent criminals that are here illegally, the sanctuary cities say,
Starting point is 00:11:33 know we're going to protect them, we're going to release them from custody, and then we're going to make it really difficult for you to find them. For the Christians who support something like, who support those sanctuary cities, think it's wrong to deport? Like, do you think that there is any limitation on immigration that we should have? Do you think that we should be able to look at background checks? Do you think that we should be able to look at criminal history? Do you think that we should be able to turn anyone away? Or do you think it is justification enough for someone to come to the border and say, I come from a poor country, I want a better life? Can I please come in here? do you think that we should be able to allow everyone in who says that no matter what no matter if they're a terrorist no matter if they are sexually abusing pedophile no matter if they are a member of the cartel do you think that the united states has any legitimate right to turn people away or to deport people if so okay let's talk about the methods then because apparently you think ice is evil apparently you think deportation is evil apparently you think razor wire is evil i mean do you remember
Starting point is 00:12:33 that story of the Haitian migrants that were crossing the border illegally and Border Patrol on horses, they were trying to catch them because that is their job. And there was this picture that went around of the Border Patrol agent on the horse, like grabbing the shirt of a Haitian migrant and the evangelical world lost it. They lost it. This is racism. This is slave patrol. This is just inhumane. I talked to one of the people who shared this. She would say, she is a Christian conservative. And I had a respectful back and forth with her, but I'm like, what? What are they supposed to do? They're not allowed to grab the shirts of illegal immigrants. They're not allowed to do anything to prevent them from coming over. What is the right thing here?
Starting point is 00:13:21 How do you know this is racism? And you are perpetuating this false narrative that is going to ruin the life of this Border Patrol agent who was just doing his job. He is a human too. But this is what I mean by toxic empathy by empathy shaming, empathy bullying, empathy manipulation. Christians especially are vulnerable to this. And we allow our emotions to lead rather than thinking, what's the truth about this situation? Is it important to have borders? How do we enforce those borders? What does that actually look like? Yeah, that is going to mean that some people who want to come here for a better life don't get to come here. And it's crazy because I think a lot of the Christians who would say, oh gosh, America is just so mean because we don't allow everyone to come here who wants to come here.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Like they wouldn't say that about any other country. Like if Zimbabwe was like, yeah, I'm sorry, we don't want everyone from America to come here because that's going to change what our country looks like. We have to be able to protect ourselves. We have to be able to protect our borders. And we don't want everyone to come here who wants to come here. I think that everyone in the United States, who is against our border and our laws would say, yeah, Zimbabwe, yeah, Kenya. Like, you have a right to do that. good job good for you you protect your land you protect your culture you protect your sovereignty that's what you have to do but for some reason when america does it when western countries does it we don't have the legitimate right to do that we're white supremacists we're racist we're bigoted we're evil we're wrong
Starting point is 00:14:46 we have to apply old testament principles of allowing the foreigner in on our nation but not on others and by the way that's a total misinterpretation of loving the foreigner that is not a free pass for illegal immigration at all. Even in context when you're looking at the command in the Old Testament for Israel to love the foreigner. And if you look at how the asylum seeker or how the foreigner had to interact with Israel, they had to completely follow Israel's laws in Israel's customs, in Israel's traditions. They weren't just allowed a free pass to come in and and live however they live however they want to. Actually, if we enforced the laws that Israel had in America today, some of the same people saying,
Starting point is 00:15:35 oh, we have to love the foreigner and open the border, would say that those laws were inhumane and not quite compassionate enough. And so this is an issue that I just see trip up a lot of Christians. It's good to have compassion for people who are in destitute situations. Gosh, what a privilege and what a gift it is to be able to live. in the United States. Thank you, Lord, for that grace. It's not something that any of us can take credit for. And we can advocate for common sense legal immigration policies, and we can come to the table and debate what's right or wrong about that, about those policies. But the position that any
Starting point is 00:16:16 enforcement, like razor wire, any enforcement of our borders is wrong and inhumane and on Christ, like, it's just silly. It's a very silly, naive position. And, Again, it's unhelpful. It hurts the very people that you say that you're trying to help. Some people are stunned by this decision, by the Supreme Court. And of course, they are disappointed that Justice Amy Coney-Barritt cited with the liberals on this. And so to Justice Roberts, it's not completely unheard of. That only happens, by the way, on the conservative side. You always know which side the liberal justices are going to fall on because they follow ideology, whereas the conservative justices actually follow the Constitution and the law. And so that means that there's going to be disagreement. There's going to be disagreement on interpretation. So that means Barrett, Kavanaugh, Roberts, they will sometimes go on the more liberal side, even though I think that they're completely wrong.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I think they're interpreting the Constitution and the law incorrectly. But you're going to get some disagreement there. You're going to get some diversity of views there. Whereas on the progressive side of the bench, you're never, ever going to get diversity of views. They're always going to just follow ideology, Democrat Party platform. So Amy Coney Barrett. Roberts, they sided with the liberals saying, yes, the Biden administration has the ability
Starting point is 00:17:30 to cut through this razor wire and just allow illegal migrants to come in. This is what they have been trying to do and have been effectively doing for the past few months. Here's a video of the Biden administration last year lifting up this razor wire so illegal migrants could just walk on through. Hey, this is Steve Deist. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted and what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality.
Starting point is 00:18:04 We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch the Steve Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcast. I hope you'll join us. Yeah, that's insane. And it just makes you wonder why.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Why, right? Like, why does the Biden administration want illegal immigrants to come into the country? Most of them are men, military-aged men. What is it for? Is it for votes? Or is it for something a lot more nefarious? It is certainly an open society agenda that is being pushed by people at the World Economic Forum. who do not believe in a nation's sovereignty,
Starting point is 00:19:10 who hate the United States, see the United States as the enemy to, I know this is going to sound conspiratorial, but it's just, it's true. If you've listened to any of my episodes with Justin Haskins, you know that this is true. They see the United States and any last vestige of
Starting point is 00:19:28 Western civilization as an obstacle to one world government. Again, I know you say one world government. You're like, oh, that's just a conspiracy, but of course that's what they want. They want to rule the world through the UN and the WHO and the WEF. They're not even, they don't even hide that. Like, it's not even coded anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:50 It's just what they say when they meet at Davos. That's what they want. And so it is important for them. It's important for them to import mass amounts of people that don't have American values. They don't believe in a representative democracy. like the United States. They don't believe in liberty. They don't believe in freedom the way that we do.
Starting point is 00:20:13 They don't have ties to American history and our founding the way that we do. That is a major inhibition. The values that we have, it's a major inhibition to people at the WEF. Of course, and Biden is a part of that. He's been a part of that. And it's not just the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:20:29 There are plenty of people in the Republican Party who have been for that as well. So Texas is trying to fight back against this. A new Texas law is set to take a fact in March, which would allow all law enforcement in the state to arrest migrants who cross the border illegally. The Justice Department again has sued arguing that the law would overstep on the federal government's authority over immigration. Texas is also in court fighting to keep a floating barrier of buoys and the Rio Grande to prevent migrants from crossing. Federal government does not want that. Texas has also been busing migrants from the border to Democrat-led cities across the U.S., some of which are trying to stop or
Starting point is 00:21:06 reroute the arrivals. They've sent over 12,000 migrants to D.C. since April of 2022, 37,000 migrants to New York City, since then 31,000 to Chicago, 3,400 to Philadelphia, 15,000, almost 16,000 to Denver and 1,500 to L.A. And this is a move that I support because all these sanctuary cities who say that people in Texas and Arizona and California at the border, that they should just deal with it. They should just deal with their property being ransacked, deal with the chaos and the crime that is exacerbated and enabled because of mass illegal immigration, now they get a taste of it. Martha's Vineyard got a taste of it. These cities who pointed their fingers, wagged their fingers at people in Texas, now they get a taste of the
Starting point is 00:21:53 policies that they voted for. And why shouldn't they? Why shouldn't they? They voted for the sanctuary city. They voted for illegal immigration. They wagged their fingers at Donald Trump and cried when he said, yeah, we should build a wall and some of these people that are coming in are rapists and drug lords and terrible people. They said, oh, he's so evil and bigoted. All right. Then take them. Take them. And see how you like the cultural enrichment. If diversity is our strength, then y'all are about to get a lot stronger. Why should you be whining about it at all? So when New York, for example, says, sorry high schoolers, you've got to go virtual. sorry homeless people, homeless citizens of the United States. These homeless shelters are being emptied out. These high schools are being emptied out. These, all of these shelters, abuse shelters,
Starting point is 00:22:45 they're going to be emptied out because we got to house migrants. The voters of that state should say, yeah, we asked for this. Great. This is, this is what we want it. Right. This is another problem that I have with people saying, oh, America First is wrong. America First is so mean. America First is not biblical no America first is the responsibility of the American government. Yeah. Kenya first is the responsibility of the Kenyan government. France first is the responsibility of the French government. That's how it's supposed to work. That is compassionate. That is responsible. That is right. That is righteous. Absolutely. God gave us nations. God gave us borders. God gave us order. He is a God of order. He is not a God of confusion and chaos. That's Satan who loves those things. And so in order to protect rights,
Starting point is 00:23:30 the rights that we believe as Americans we have been given by our creator. You have to have a government that puts the needs and the well-being and the rights of its citizens first. That means not allowing illegal migrants in the country, period. You can have legal means for people to seek asylum and to claim refugee status. That is not mean that we have to open our borders. We've had hundreds of thousands, hundreds of thousands of these people pouring in unprecedented rates. It's really scary. We don't know who these people are, what they're going to do.
Starting point is 00:24:06 We're importing the worst ethnic and national and religious conflicts in the world right here in the United States. All right. So let me just read you a couple things from Bill Malugan. Bill Malugan is a reporter from Fox News, and he has been reporting on the border for a long time. He does absolutely excellent work, bringing us the stories of what's happening there, videos, pictures of what's happening there, just so we can see the massive scale of migration at the border and how our government allows it and even incentivizes it by saying you can come here, you can get all this free stuff, and don't worry, we're not going to deport you. here's what happens. Here's what happens with illegal immigration. Here's what happens in the sanctuary cities that refuses to comply with ICE. Here's a story. This is one of many, many, many stories that happens every year. This is from, let's see, he reported this a couple days ago. A Honduran illegal
Starting point is 00:25:20 immigrant charged with sexual abuse and carnal knowledge of a child in Virginia was released from Fairfax County Jail. Fairfax County Jail is very liberal. Fairfax County Jail without notice after the sanctuary jurisdiction ignored ICE's detect. request. He then assaulted an ICE agent when they found and arrested him at his residence in Springfield, Virginia, ICE says. And here is another story because again, this is just extremely common. You can follow him on Twitter and you'll be able to see all these stories that he tells often. An illegal immigrant from Haiti charged with raping a developmentally disabled person in Boston was released from jail into the community after the sanctuary jurisdiction in
Starting point is 00:26:05 Dorchester refused to honor ICE's detainer request. ICE in Boston just found and re-arrested him and they called the local decision to release him without notice disturbing. He entered at a port of entry in Brownsville, Texas in December 2022 where he was deemed inadmissible and released into the U.S. with a future court date. And then he raped, assaulted a developmentally disabled person in Boston. Just a reminder that every single crime, every single crime that is committed by an illegal migrant is preventable.
Starting point is 00:26:42 That's why they're different from crimes committed by citizens. Yes, of course, citizens commit crimes. We know that. But the crimes committed by illegal immigrants are 100% preventable through border enforcement, through legal enforcement. And again, the people who say, oh, it's just so inhumane to put razor-wise. up, really? Do you think it's humane to allow someone in that then rapes a special needs person in Boston? Do you think it's humane for the sanctuary city to say, oh, in the name of social
Starting point is 00:27:16 justice and compassion, we're going to release this person so they can rape more people? It's evil. It's evil. It is evil to advocate for this stuff. And it's evil to advocate it for it, especially in the name of Christianity and the name of empathy. It's really bad. All right. I want to talk to Jason Butchral now about this documentary, about Colony Ridge. It's just absolutely insane what is happening there. And it just gives us a little bit of a, it gives us a little bit of a picture into just what is happening and why. Like why these people are coming, who's reaching out to them, who's telling them that they can come here? How are they getting that message?
Starting point is 00:27:57 And who is taking care of them once they are here? Here is a clip from the documentary of Glenn and Jason flying over this community just to give you an idea of how vast this is. This is Sot 1. Look at the size of this. It's huge. I mean, it almost goes to the horizon. And that is not, we're not seeing the ends of it. That's just the develops.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Yes. By the time Joe Biden's out of office, there will be about 10 million. new people in here. We don't know who they are. 10 million people come across our border. If you have 10 million people coming in, where are they living? You have to have things like this. You have to build whole communities.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Again, the size of Miami. But look how many houses are yet to be built here. Insane. Insane. All right. Without further ado, Here is Jason Butchrell. Jason, thanks so much for taking the time to join me.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Yeah, of course. Okay, let's talk about this wild documentary about Colony Ridge. Just tell us what is Colony Ridge. Colony Ridge is this development down just a few miles away from Houston, like downtown Houston. So if you're like in like close to the area of Colony Ridge, you can see the high rises
Starting point is 00:29:27 from Houston. It's really close. But there's this development that's, it's, I can't remember how many thousands of acres it is. thousands of thousands of acres and it hit the news cycle. What was that like, I'm sure you saw it. It was like several months ago, I think the Daily Wire did something on it. The New York Post did something on it.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And they were talking about how the developer was specifically targeting non-citizens. Come over the United States, you know, we got this land. You can build your, you know, your dream home. It's the American dream right here, right next to Houston. How was the developer communicating that? So there was some. some controversy on that. Of course, if you ask him, and we did ask him in the documentary, that, you know, he's like, well, I'm not targeting people in other countries. He, for, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:13 in his words, you know, the Hispanics were very, you know, good on paying their bills. He, he wanted to provide, like, an entry level, you know, community. He's, you know, he's a humanitarian, you know, that's how he was putting it off. You know, I'm here for them. So he would say, I wasn't targeting them specifically. Well, in the doc, you'll see, we, we, We talked to some people that actually answered some of these calls. And they pointed out very specifically there's social media people in South American countries, places like Columbia that's just for them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And they'll have like, you know, if you've seen like, I don't know, like, like South American like advertisements for like car dealerships and stuff, they do it in a very like similar way. They look at a really cute, pretty girl. And, you know, she grabs all the attention and she's like, yeah, you know, just come over here, blah, blah, you know, it's, you know, it's an amazing opportunity. And they usually will say, you know, make your home in America or something like that. Wow. It's clearly directed.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Okay. So this developer, and what's his name? John Harris. And so he is using, at least in part, he's using social media and geotargeting people in these countries who might be interested in coming here, putting up social media advertisements, targeted posts saying, oh, come on over to Texas. Come on over to Colony Ridge. will make it super easy for you to live here. That's correct. And again, if you talk to him, he's just the good guy in this.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Anyone else that's concerned about it. He's like George Bailey from It's a Wonderful Life. Exactly right, Talley. And Glenn even mentions that in an interview. He's like, who are you in It's a Wonderful Life? And he's like, no, I'm not George Bailey. Oh, wow. But yeah, so it's really crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:56 You kind of get, I got multiple things off this documentary. So one, the people that are, they claim to just, You know, they're the compassionate ones, you know, for immigration. They want to give people a better life. Really? Is that the case? You know, because this guy actually seems like he's targeting the people that cannot fight him back. And, Allie, I interviewed this.
Starting point is 00:32:19 It's a gut-wrenching interview where I talked to a woman that, so she's actually legal. She's a United States citizen. She's one of the only United States citizens that we talked to there. And she was in tears because she was just about to get foreclosed on in our house. and the situation she described was there's this land, but it's not developed at all. There's all these extra fees that you never knew about that you would have to, you know, put into your home. For instance, it floods like crazy there. Of course, when you talk to the developer, it's not a floodplain.
Starting point is 00:32:49 There's isolated incidents, but it's not the norm. Well, she said this happens basically every time it rains over there. And every time it would rain, all the rain would come through and wash out all of the property around our home. and they would have to pay upwards like $400 per truck full of like, you know, dirt and stuff to fill all that back in. She's like, you can't pay for that. And it's just constant every time it rains, nonstop, nonstop. So now they're behind on their mortgage.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I'm not sure if she has been foreclosed on at this point. She was on the verge of it being foreclosed on when we spoke to her back in December. But she is one of the lucky ones. And I say that kind of oddly because she, so she's unlucky for, you know, getting falling for this trap here in this in this development but she's lucky because she is a citizen and she can fight the developer on these things she can take him to court but she was like the rest of the rest of the people he targets and in her opinion very specifically they're not going to go to the courts they can't they can't yeah because they're going to get deported okay so he's less like george bailey and more like
Starting point is 00:33:51 potter in his situation he's making basically potter town he's making a bunch of these maybe they look like a nice new development, new construction houses, but he knows that they're maybe on bad foundation and a bad area. He's going to make a quick buck off of these people by charging them. I think it was like $1,000. And then when their property is destroyed, they're not going to be able to sue them. They're not going to be able to fight back. We have a clip of your wife, actually, opposing as someone who wanted to purchase a house. And if you're watching on YouTube, you'll be able to see the English translation at the bottom of the screen. If you're just listening to this, then we will do the translating for you after this clip.
Starting point is 00:34:35 But here is Jason's wife calling this development and saying, yeah, I would like to purchase a home, but I'm illegal. Is that okay? Here it is. How many money necessitate and how cost? $1,000? $1,000? Ah, yeah? Yes. If I can go to go to that, for, if we can negotiate, sure.
Starting point is 00:34:56 So we can negotiate, I'm going to go there. Perfect. So, so I'm going to put as a tentative, the 22. Okay, muchismas. So, I qualify. I don't need anything by my passport
Starting point is 00:35:14 and any other type of ID. No documents. It's not necessary to have documents. It's not necessary to have anything. As long as you have $1,000 down. $1,000 down, foreign passport, and even a foreign ID.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Exactly. I don't have to be legal. They said that I'm going to be closing the 22nd of December. So unqualified, I'm getting a land because I have my $1,000. You're a landowner. Yes, finally. Okay, and so we couldn't play the entirety of this clip for everyone. But basically, she said, oh, yeah, I'm illegal.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Is that a problem? Can I still close? The other person said, oh, don't worry. We do the financing in-house. That's no problem. You don't have to be a citizen. All you need is $1,000. And we'll be able to close before Christmas.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Obviously, this was a couple months ago. Now, all right, I guess that that is, that was super easy. We saw the phone call. I mean, there were no hurdles that she had to jump over besides that $1,000. And I'm guessing that's what's happening across the board. Yep, all across the board. So, you know, there are a large amount that can somehow make it work. And they'll stay there for, you know, a while, several years.
Starting point is 00:36:29 and we talked to them and met them. And by and large, they're pretty happy about it because compared to their situation where they came from, they can actually make it work here. But I think it was they have more foreclosures in that area, in the Colony Ridge area, than all of the DFW Metroplex. Wow. Absolutely insane. And I think that's what the developer counts on. He counts on. That's so evil.
Starting point is 00:36:52 So this was kind of the biggest story alley because if you looked at some of the other reports, it was almost like it was, you know, Afghanistan or, you know, Iraq. And it was like a war zone here. And that's not really what we saw. There was crime there. There were things that were bad. But it seemed like to me the biggest thing here was a guy claiming to be that he just had the greatest big heart, you know, and it's all about, you know, helping out the migrants and the Hispanic community. When in the reality of it was, I'll target these people that cannot fight me back. We'll bring them over here. Chances are, because of the foreclosure rate, they're probably going to lose the place anyway, but not until they put in a few thousand dollars in building up this, this land.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Then after they foreclose, I can sell it for even a larger amount to another group of illegals. And the process and the cycle continues and continues. Wow. And does the government of Texas, do they know? Hoof. So yes. I am confused to this day on where that stands.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Now, we tried to get an interview with multiple government officials. They did not talk to us. We know, and this is in the documentary, that one of the brothers, the Harris brothers, one of them, not the one we spoke to, but the other one, had given over a million dollar contribution to Governor Abbott. Now, when we asked the developer about this, he didn't really have a good answer for it. And then Glenn, in that interview, asked him, come on, who all is on the take? You know, there's got to be a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And I'm just going to save it for the documentary. Yeah. Watch what his response is. Yeah. It's pretty eye-opening. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yes, everyone absolutely has to go to it's blazeridginals.com, right?
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah. And you got to watch this whole thing. It is absolutely mind-blowing. So the Biden administration, their DOJ actually has a lawsuit against Colony Ridge, correct? Yeah. Because of this predatory lending. Exactly what we saw. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Dishonest sales practices. So at first, when I heard this story, I was thinking, okay, Biden's federal government is behind this and they actually want this incentive for illegal migrants, illegal immigrants to come over and to live here because of course we know from the SCOTUS case, they want illegal immigration and they want the border to be torn down. They certainly don't believe in any inhibition for these people to come over here. But that's that's not the story here. That's not the story here. The story is the predatory practices of this person who is making a buck off of people who I won't say are completely destitute if you've got a thousand dollars to put down you're not completely destitute but who are vulnerable enough not to be
Starting point is 00:39:32 able to support themselves after they have put down the $1,000 right? Yeah so that's I think that's the main part of the story here but I think you actually are still on to something with what you you know previously thought about it because I don't see how the federal government does not turn to blind eye on this in some way. They are going after the predatory lending because I really I don't think they can just, I don't think they can ignore that anymore. There's got to be a case. I know there's still, I know the, I think it's the Texas Senate, is still pursuing avenues to go after Colony Ridge.
Starting point is 00:40:04 But, I mean, if you fly over, and we did, if you fly over Colony Ridge, you see the vast amount of land space out there. And then you consider the actual numbers of people in these locations. I think in December, there was, again, another record shattering a number of illegals that across the border. I think it was around 300,000 last month. Yeah. We're breaking a new record. It's insane. It's insane. Every year we're breaking a record. That is the new norm is the record breaking amounts of people coming across. Now, if you think about all those people, you look at that land,
Starting point is 00:40:36 that's going to start popping up all over the country. Now, it behooves the government and put on your tinful hat with me for a second, even though I don't think it's needed. But it behooves the government. If you want to change demographics, if you want to go to certain locations where you don't have a stronghold in, Texas, Florida, places like that, you know, solid red state places, just have these communities. Ted Cruz won by a sliver the last time. I think just the amount of people that it would be in Colony Ridge in the next couple years after they have some more growth would hand the election over to Beto O'Rourke last time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:16 That's how small some of these margins are. Yeah. You can read into that what you want, but I mean, I mean, if they want to continue to grab power in locations where they're not going to be able to grab power in the next, say, five to ten years, just keep letting this happen. And it will happen. You know what? This is such a good example of how I talk a lot about, like, toxic empathy and how empathy is used by the progressive side to get. I say Christian women, but really a lot of different kinds of people to be on their side and a certain. issue. When it comes to immigration, they play upon people's emotions and say, look at these
Starting point is 00:42:05 poor people coming from these countries. The most loving thing to do is to tear down the barbed wire, to take away the buoys, to just allow these people to come in because they're all asylum seekers, they say. But that empathy, that form of toxic empathy, inhibits people from seeing the other side of this. The other side is that you are then incentivizing people to make a very dangerous track to come here with nothing and to get preyed upon by bad actors who, of course, are going to exploit their vulnerability and their poverty. And so that's why illegal migration, that's why mass migration is not actually empathetic. It actually hurts the very people that the progressives say that they're trying to help. And this is just one of many examples of that. Oh, yeah. And
Starting point is 00:42:50 mass migration. You know, populations are being deliberately moved all over the world right now. And you can go all the way to, I mean, this is WF World Economic Forum Week. They're one of the biggest pushers on this in league with like organizations like the UN that work with the UM's, what is the office of migrant immigration. I can't remember what the actual acronym is. But groups like them, Doctors Without Borders, did you see that muckraker.com disclosure of those maps a couple of weeks ago where they obtain these maps from the UN and from Doctors Without Borders that provide detailed routes starting in Panama going all the way up through Mexico with stops with these little logos that show where they can go to bed down for the night, where they can go to get food, where they can get medical assistance, and get all the way
Starting point is 00:43:40 up to the border. Now, you know that the international community, all the people that are pushing this, know what happens at the Mexico-U.S. border. Fox News did a report, I believe it was last week or a couple weeks ago that talked about a shootout at the Arizona-Mexico border that was absolutely insane. I've been to Afghanistan. That's exactly what it sounds like in a war zone. That was a war zone. They talked to some of the cartel people off the record, and they said this is all because of the migration. They said that nobody wants to work in the drug trade anymore because there's too much risk in getting caught. But with all the migrants, we charge $2,000 a head for each migrant to actually be able to, for us to allow them to cross in the United States. The cartel's state.
Starting point is 00:44:22 the cartels. 2,000 ahead. Yeah. In 2021, they made $13 billion. Billion. Billion. Wow. This was before everything got crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:33 So now it's way more. Oh my gosh. So this is ramping up. Who is making money off of this? Yeah. Who is getting cut in with the cartels to be able to allow to operate there? Yeah. Of course.
Starting point is 00:44:42 These are just, you know, obvious questions. And the Mexican government, I mean, they don't really have an incentive to stop it. No. I mean, what was it? I think this year, their, their equivalent of, the head of the FBI just got arrested the United States for working with the cartels. Yeah. A few years before that, their defense secretary also got nailed for that.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yeah. They're all in on it. Right. Who in the United States is in on it? That's what I want to know. Yeah. I personally really believe that will come out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Eventually. Oh, yeah. Well, I don't even know if they're hiding it necessarily. I mean, they're suing. The Biden administration sued the state of Texas to be able to remove barbed wire from, I mean, That is like the most like innocuous barrier. That's basically barbed wire buoys is basically the equivalent to saying, please don't. Please don't.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Like it's not guns. You're not using lethal force. You're not even putting your hands. It's just a, it's just a symbol. Of course, it's more than a symbol, but it's a signifier to say, please don't. Right. And the Biden administration is saying you can't even do that. You can't even say please don't.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Right. And the only thing the Texas government was doing was providing assistance. Yeah. They were providing help. So if there was nothing else larger going on here, wouldn't the government say, thank you so, so much for all your help? We can use all the help. Biden himself has said he wants to do something about the border, but he said Congress
Starting point is 00:46:13 won't give him the money to do it. Well, Texas is saying, and Governor Abbott, we got the money. We'll help you out. Yeah. But they're not letting them. Now, why is that? Yeah. That is absolutely insane.
Starting point is 00:46:23 This is a crazy, I don't know what you said on this earlier, but this is such a crazy precedent because if I'm, you know, if, so they didn't give an explanation for why SCOTUS did this. I can only imagine that the argument was on a constitutional, look, this is a federal issue. Yeah. The border is federal. It was. So that, so I understand that.
Starting point is 00:46:44 But the weird precedent is, is there ever been a case where there's been a federal mandate that they refused to enforce. Yeah. So the state had to step in. Right. Right. I can't think. There probably has one, but I can't think of that.
Starting point is 00:46:58 So what then does Texas do? Right. They kind of have to hold their ground. So that's basically saying that not only is the federal government declaring that we as a country don't have borders, but you as a state, you don't even have borders. That's essentially what it's saying. You do not have borders because a border that's not protected isn't really a border, right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:16 So we're just one with Mexico now. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, it's crazy. And what the federal government is kind of pushing on this is, is, you know what the Bubba effect is? No, I think I've heard maybe you talk about it. So I probably have.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah. So the bubble effect is when the people that are in charge of enforcing the laws, like the police or the state or the federal government. Oh, yes. When they decide not to do that, then the people feel like they have to step in and do it for them. The Bubba steps in. So what the federal government's kind of pushing here is a statewide Bubba effect.
Starting point is 00:47:49 where if they refuse to do their job, then the state has to come in. Now, if the state is also forbidden from doing the job the federal government refuses to do, what do the people of that state start doing? Yeah, right. I'm not advocating for that,
Starting point is 00:48:04 but that's what this leads to. What are you supposed to do? Right. What are you supposed to do? And I saw Tucker Carlson's tweet who said, he said, okay, so where are the men of Texas? I don't like that. But I mean, well, what are the,
Starting point is 00:48:16 and my question is, well, what are they supposed to do? You know, what are they supposed to do? What are the men of taxes supposed to do? I don't know. I don't know what that looks like. I mean, you think that anyone's going to let just civilians get away with trying to protect the border? It's not going to happen. This is a very important conversation that should be done nationwide on a multiple issues.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Because let me just answer that as a man of Texas. I'm a man of a lot of anger that I've had to really get under control since I was a kid. which I have done. But my inner head tells me, go down to the border right now. Go down to the border right now because they're not doing it. This is your home.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Defend your home. That's what my inner voice tells me to do. Now, my years of experience have told me to pull back on the reins. Like, hold on there, buddy. But there will be a lot of people that have that notion, you know, that urge. And I didn't agree with Tucker saying that.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I agree with a lot of stuff Tucker says. But that just almost seems like you're saying, look at all that gasoline and then flicking your cigarette on it, you know, and sitting back and watching what happens. Well, James Lindsay says that it's a sci-up and that the government is trying to push conservative Americans to do something that will then lay the groundwork as January 6th did for the government to take even more control. I mean, that's the day and age we're in. You know, we really have to be on the lookout for things like that. Because I don't know, I mean, the government wants more and more power.
Starting point is 00:49:51 How do they get more power? They look at a misstep. Talk chaos. Exactly. Use that as a ladder and climb it on up as far as you can. But, I mean, look at the things that we've given up since January 6th. Right. I mean, we have Patriot on steroids where they're going after grandmas, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Yeah. Just for the, as in their words, shock and awe effect. Right. That's not the country I want to live in. Right. Where the Department of Justice thinks they have to shock and awe me into line so they can get even more power. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:18 It's so scary. Let me shock in awe. But it's not just January 6th. It's also pro-life advocates. I mean, thankfully, Mark Haig was acquitted, but he's the Catholic dad that he had the, he had officials, the FBI show up at his house, guns drawn, this dad of seven and in front of his children arrested him. Why? Because he pushed back a pro-abortion protester who was in his 12-year-old son's face harassing him. And the government said, I'm sure for shock and all, well, we're going to show up at your house basically threatened to kill you because that's what it is. If you don't come with us, we've got our guns here. We're going to kill you in front of his children. That is the government. That's the Biden administration. If you oppose them on abortion, on immigration, on whatever it is, even in a peaceful way, well, they're going to take away your freedom.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Absolutely. People were arrested for praying at abortion. praying, Allie. So what does that do? How many people, just regular peaceful people were like, you know, I'm really, I'm going to go and pray to. I'm going to do it. How many of them said, oh, after they saw what the feds did roll up?
Starting point is 00:51:30 Is it worth that? Is it worth it? I'm not going to let my voice be, you know, be heard anymore. Of course. And that's exactly what they want. Yes. Yeah, it's exactly what they want. And of course, the whole conversation about, oh, the right just wants power.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Donald Trump is a fascist, Christian nationalism and theocracy and whatever. propaganda is out there, of course, it's projection. The opposite is true. It's not that the Biden administration and the left want power. They have it. They have it. And they're wielding it with their bayonets to make sure that people comply, to make sure that you don't even pray in a way that opposes the regime. Amazing. I don't, yeah, Ali, I don't know where this ends. I really don't. I don't either. But could you make the argument that if Texas doesn't defy the SCOTUS ruling, that it won't stop there, that it'll continue? But what is defy the defy the law? look like. Where does it escalates? I guess that's where I'm, I mean, I guess Texas could say,
Starting point is 00:52:23 no, you're not, you know, continue to not let the border patrol on the border, continue to keep the razor wire there and the buoys. They say, now we're just not going to listen to you. Yeah. I mean, practically, because we've already seen, we've already seen video of the federal government coming in, scooping up the barbed wire, allowing migrants to walk under it. Like, practically, physically, I'm not sure what it looks like for Texas to say, no, you're not going to do that. That's where things get, and I don't say this in a good way, but interesting. Yeah. Like, what does that resistance look like? It's going to be more than Governor Abbott just saying, no. I read the court documents that the government submitted through the DOJ when this whole thing
Starting point is 00:53:04 started with the Constantine wire. And they added to it when the Texas National Guard went on the border and actually physically stopped the border patrol. And it just sounded kind of hilarious, actually. It was a couple of like direct quotes on the Border Patrol saying, no, we couldn't get to the border because those Texan National Guard guys with guns were standing. It was just so funny to me. Yeah. Because I was kind of proud to be a Texan in a way. You know what I mean? Because I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I really do not know where this ends because I don't know. I guess it depends on how far the government is willing to take it. Yeah. But when you are a federal government that has shown that you don't really care what Skoda says anyway, Biden just, you know, forgave. how many more billions in student loans? Yeah. That's already been ruled by SCOTUS. You can't do that. Yeah. So they kind of took that first step. Yeah. Do we now take that step with the border? And if we don't, what does that say when they say we're going to, you know that Second Amendment thing?
Starting point is 00:54:01 Yeah, we don't really mind about that. That First Amendment thing, we're going to keep chicken away at that because you've shown that when we push, you don't shove back. Yeah. But that's again another question because I don't know, I'm not an advocate for pushing that as far as it should go. Yeah. That ends in scary destinations. Of course. And I don't think anyone wants that. I certainly don't want that.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I don't want violence. I don't want this kind of conflict. I don't know. I also don't know where it ends up because what we've realized is that like the constitution and the rule of law isn't really just a piece of paper. It's not just words. It's really about will. That is what the law comes down to.
Starting point is 00:54:41 The law is what the person in power is. willing to do. And at the end of the day, someone who was willing to do something when they are in power overrides what SCOTA says. Apparently, I mean, that's what the Biden administration has proven that they don't really care what SCOTUS says. So wild. It is wild. Well, Jason, thank you so much. And thank you to you and Glenn for uncovering this. It's very fascinating. I really encourage people to go to blazeoriginal.com. And I think that there is a promo code as well. I don't know what it is, but we'll put it in the description of this episode so people can
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