Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 958 | Laken Riley’s Preventable Murder

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

Today we discuss the atrocious murder of Laken Riley allegedly by an illegal immigrant and how liberal immigration policies in Athens, Georgia, contributed to her death. We point out how Laken Riley�...�s death could have been prevented if immigration laws were enforced. We also discuss why “diversity for diversity’s sake” never works and the need for a national identity of shared Christian values under Jesus Christ. For some reason, though, this belief in a Christian American national identity could now be considered bigoted and maybe even “Christian nationalist” … at least according to MSNBC. Plus, we give our take on Shane Gillis’ controversial "Saturday Night Live" appearance. --- Timecodes: (00:44) Encouragement & announcements (06:40) Laken Riley (20:48) How did this happen? (46:43) MSNBC & “Christian Nationalism” (01:00:41) Shane Gillis on SNL --- Today's Sponsors: A'Del — go to adelnaturalcosmetics.com and enter promo code "ALLIE" for 25% off your first order! We Heart Nutrition — nourish your body with research-backed ingredients in your vitamins at WeHeartNutrition.com and use promo code ALLIE for 20% off. Focus on the Family — the new podcast, "Practice Makes Parent" brings you real, practical, and biblical advice. Tune in every Wednesday on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcasting platform. Find the podcast here: https://podcasts.focusonthefamily.com/show/practice-makes-parent/?refcd=1674101&utm_source=blaze&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=relatable Covenant Eyes — protect you and your family from the things you shouldn't be looking at online. Go to coveyes.com/ALLIE to try it FREE for 30 days! --- Links: Blaze Media: "ICE confirms alarming details about the immigrant charged with murdering Georgia college student: 'Released by the NYPD'" https://www.theblaze.com/news/ice-confirms-jose-ibarra-history --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 957 | How the Gospel Heals Anger, Addiction & Adultery | Guest: Jeff Allen https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-957-how-the-gospel-heals-anger-addiction-adultery/id1359249098?i=1000647135892 Ep 938 | Border Standoff: Texas vs. Biden | Guest: Jason Buttrill https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-938-border-standoff-texas-vs-biden-guest-jason-buttrill/id1359249098?i=1000642688945 Ep 793 | An Atheist & a Christian Define Christian Nationalism | Guest: James Lindsay https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-793-an-atheist-a-christian-define/id1359249098?i=1000610457446 Ep 922 | The Very Scary Rise of Christofascism https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-922-the-very-scary-rise-of-christofascism/id1359249098?i=1000638483605 Ep 920 | Russell Moore, David French & the Fake Threat of Christian Nationalism | Guest: John Cooper https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-920-russell-moore-david-french-the-fake-threat/id1359249098?i=1000638231068 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.
Starting point is 00:00:19 We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular. This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Lake and Riley was a 22-year-old nursing student who was just murdered by an illegal alien from Venezuela in Athens, Georgia last week. How in the world does this happen? How do we prevent it from happening in the future? Also, MSNBC says that believing that your rights come from God is very problematic.
Starting point is 00:01:03 We've got all of that and more on today's episode of Relatable, which is brought to you by our friends at Good Rangers. Go to Good Ranchers.com. Use code Alley at checkout. That's good ranchers.com code Alley. Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. Hope everyone is having a great week so far. Go listen to yesterday's encouraging conversation if you haven't already. It is such a good reminder. people's testimony, especially yesterday's testimony, such a good reminder that it is impossible to be outside the realm of God's redemption. You're not too far gone. You're not too far off. God can do anything. Some of the most encouraging words in the Bible you read in several places, but I think of Ephesians too, but God. It seems like we were too far off. It seems like we were
Starting point is 00:02:01 hopeless. It seems like we were destitute and in a place of total despair, but God, through the power of His Holy Spirit, the power of Christ, he can do anything and save anyone. So praise God. If you just need a reminder of that, that God is working in and around and through and above all the craziness of what's going on in the world to win people to himself. Go listen to yesterday's episode. So edifying for me personally, I know it will be for you too. All right, we have so much to talk about. I know I say that every day, but we really do. I'm going to try to go as quickly as possible through these stories because I got so much
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Starting point is 00:05:46 aren't just political. They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself. On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality. We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort. We ask the hard questions and follow the answers. wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular.
Starting point is 00:06:06 This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos. If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us. Okay, let's get into it. You guys probably saw me post about this on Instagram, maybe on X over the weekend. I was and am very, very fired up about this story.
Starting point is 00:06:39 That's the story of Lake and Riley, a 22-year-old nursing student at Augusta University. She was found in a forested area near the UGA intramural fields around noon on February 22, brutally murdered. This story hits close to home. Of course, any story of any person murdered is absolutely tragic, deserves our compassion. our care, our attention. But some stories because of the details, either the location or the details of the person involved, they just hit a little bit closer to home than other stories because you have a personal tie. And I have a personal tie here to Athens, Georgia. It's where I moved after college. I went to college in Greenville, South Carolina. I moved
Starting point is 00:07:35 about an hour and a half away to Athens, Georgia, took my first job there in PR. That's where I met my husband. That's where we got married. That's where we spent the first few years of our marriage. We have visited there several times in the last few years. We absolutely love Athens. And it's where my husband went to school. He went to UGA and many people and his family throughout the generations went to UGA. I first started doing what I do there in Athens by going to the sorority houses on Millage Avenue and telling the sorority girls there back in 2015 why it was so important for them to vote. I have such fond memories of Athens and have such a connection to the university there just because of the formative years.
Starting point is 00:08:30 that I spent in the area. And so I know that this has rocked that community. And I know that this is going to continue to make waves there, not just locally in Athens, but also in the state of Georgia. And as we'll talk about, this has really become a national story because of who perpetrated this murder against this young woman, Lake and Riley. He happens to be an illegal from Venezuela who had a violent record, who crossed the border several years ago, made his way to New York, was charged with the assault of a minor there, but was let out of jail because that's always what happens. And then at some point, he made his way to Athens, Georgia, and he killed this young woman just the other day.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Now, how in the world did this happen? If you are not familiar with Athens, if you're not familiar with Georgia, you might just be thinking, well, this is a conservative state. They've got a Republican governor. And yeah, of course, like a lot of red states, maybe it's turned a little purple over the years. But it's generally conservative. And maybe you're thinking this is a southern SEC school. Athens is probably a conservative town. Why would this illegal alien make his way to somewhere? like Athens, who surely is not friendly to people like him to illegal aliens. But the fact is is that Athens has become extremely liberal. It's become, for lack of a better word, like every other progressive city, it's become a liberal hellhole. It has become markedly less safe, poorer, and dirtier, and less stable. They've got a progressive DA there who does what progressive DAs do in every other city across the country. They're soft on crime and the name of social justice, especially if you have a particular intersectional identity, like you're an illegal
Starting point is 00:10:39 alien or you are of a certain melanin count that qualifies you as what progressives deem oppressed. So that's what has happened to Athens. It is much worse. It is much more disgusting than it was when I was there right after college. You know, college towns always have some sort of grunge to them. Like, I mean, they're always going to kind of smell like beer and other liquids. But there's also a charm to them. I never felt unsafe in Athens, even, you know, late at night. And I never felt like I couldn't walk to my car by myself.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I never felt like my friends and I, you know, had to look over. our shoulder when we were downtown, but now it is different. And that's what happens with every liberal city. I don't understand. I really don't understand how people can't make that connection between progressive policies and how awful progressive cities have become. Every single city that is run by Democrats has been run to the ground, especially over the past few years. Because in the name of social justice, the people in charge have decided not to enforce the law when it comes to crimes, when it comes to drugs, when it comes to homelessness. So whether you're talking about Athens, Georgia, or you're talking about Atlanta, or you're
Starting point is 00:12:03 talking about Denver or Portland or Seattle or San Francisco or D.C. or Chicago or Philadelphia or New York City or Austin, I mean, I could go on and on. Every city that is run by Democrats becomes unsafe and unlivable. And that is exactly what is come, that what has become of Athens, Georgia. Unfortunately, Athens, Clark County is one of three sanctuary areas in the state of Georgia. One of three sanctuary areas in the state of Georgia. Now, what does it mean to be a sanctuary city?
Starting point is 00:12:41 It typically means that you are not going to comply with ICE, that you, if ICE says, hey, we know that you've got this illegal alien. He's dangerous. he is in your area. We need you to hold him. Or if he commits a crime and he goes to jail in this area, the district, the sanctuary district or the sanctuary city will not inform ICE of that or they will ignore ICE's detainer orders saying, hey, if ICE says, hey, you got to hold this guy. The sanctuary city will say, no, thanks. They'll release him back into the public. And very often, he will commit a heinous crime.
Starting point is 00:13:25 That's exactly what seems to have happened here with Lakin Riley. So just a few more details about this. Officials said that her body was found after one of her friends called 911 to report that she hadn't come home from a jog. According to an incident report, an officer found her in the woods beaten to death 30 minutes after they believed the murder took place. Police have arrested 26-year-old Jose Antonio Ibarra of Venezuela as the suspect in the crime. Ibarra faces charges of malice murder, felony murder, aggravated battery, aggravated assault, false imprisonment, kidnapping, hindering a 911 call and concealing the death of another. Law enforcement confirmed that Abara and his brother Diego were in the U.S. as illegal immigrants. I'm just going to say a note on this.
Starting point is 00:14:10 You know, my language has kind of changed over the years. my dad actually pointed out. You guys know my dad. He's been on the show several times. And he calls me multiple times a week to give me feedback on the show. And one thing that he has said is, why do you, why are you saying migrants now? And I guess I just kind of imbibed to the media's language and their change in rhetoric about it. He was like, they're not migrants. They're not just migrating. They are illegal aliens. You could say illegal immigrants. And I think that's correct. I think that we do need to be very careful about our language. And so I actually think illegal alien is probably just to the most accurate language. So he is an illegal alien and his brother. Jose Antonio Ibarra was previously
Starting point is 00:14:54 arrested, as I mentioned earlier, New York last August and charged with endangering a child, but was cut loose before immigration officials could file a request for local cops to hold him in custody. That's of course what sanctuary cities do. He was also arrested for shoplifting in an Athens Walmart last October. Then a warrant was issued for his arrest when he failed to appear in court regarding the incident. But of course, nothing happened. So let's learn a little bit about Lake and Riley, this 22-year-old nursing student. Her life ahead of her seems like a wonderful, sweet young woman. She was first enrolled in the UGA before transferring to Augusta University to complete her nursing degree. That's very,
Starting point is 00:15:34 that's very common there. She was a standout athlete and student at River Ridge High School, where she ran cross-country and track. This is what her family says. Lakin was an amazing daughter, sister, friend, an overall person in general. Her love for the Lord is exemplified in every aspect of her life. She will be missed every day, but we promise to honor her life moving forward in a very big way. During this most difficult time, we ask that you respect our privacy and provide us the time and space necessary to grieve our daughter's life that was tragically cut short. Her Woodstock City Church, that's where her family went to church. They said, we are devastated by the news of the tragic death of Lake and Riley. Lakers family are active members
Starting point is 00:16:09 of our church community. Our prayers are with them. Our prayers are. Our prayers. should be with them too. Absolutely pray for her family. I mean, I cannot imagine the pain of losing a child. I cannot imagine the pain. There's got to be honestly no worse pain in the world. And so pray for her parents, pray for her friends, pray for this community that God would somehow be glorified through this. And it sounds like she was a believer. And so she is fully healed. and she is with Jesus and she is happier and more satisfied and more joyful than we could ever even imagine. She is not missing what is happening here on earth. So in that we can rejoice and that we will all, all of us who are believers will see her one day. And we can absolutely thank the Lord for that.
Starting point is 00:16:57 But we still mourn her death here. I mean, Jesus wept at the death of Lazarus and no one knows more than Jesus, the beauty and the glory of eternity in heaven. So it is right and normal for us to be sad about death. Death is and will always feel unnatural to us because it was not supposed to be this way. It is because of the fall that we have to endure the sadness and the tragedy and the separation that physical death causes. And so it is not only right for us to mourn for those reasons, but it is also right for us to be angered because this was a preventable murder. Let us remember this is that every single crime, every instance of manslaughter, rape, assault, theft, and murder committed by an illegal alien was preventable. Not every single
Starting point is 00:17:54 crime is preventable, although I think a lot of crimes could be better deterred than they are right now just by enforcing the law swiftly and consistently and harshly when called for. But every single crime committed by an illegal alien is preventable. By simply enforcing immigration law the way that so many other countries do. We like to act like this is some complex, complicated, nuanced, gray, impossible issue. The fact of the matter is we do not have pull. political leaders on the right or the left with the will to do what needs to be done. Republicans theoretically are better on this than Democrats, but really what have they accomplished?
Starting point is 00:18:43 What have they accomplished when it comes to deportations? What have they accomplished in protecting women like Lake and Riley from the predation of illegal aliens who are coming from places that quite frankly are run by anarchy? we cannot expect people like this. I'm not talking about every illegal alien. I'm certainly not talking about all immigrants by any means. But we cannot expect people like this who were very likely criminals back home and who lived in a world of anarchy that was run by corruption and crime to come here and all of a sudden become freedom loving, peaceful, productive citizens. It's just not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I'm sorry. It's just not. I think that we believe that they're just going to assimilate because everyone is basically the same and has like the same goals and values. That's just not true. Not every culture is the same. Not every country shares the same values. Not all people are the same. Not all people want the same things.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Not all people are motivated in the same way. Not everyone coming here is just looking for a better life. They're coming here to mooch off of the most productive and responsible and best citizens among us. I mean, this is what happens, not just with illegal immigration. but also just with social justice in general, the very best people in our society like Lake and Riley are forced to sacrifice themselves for the very worst people in our society. People like Ibarra. That's what social justice is. That's what social justice policy in action looks like. It means the very worst, the most criminal people in society sacrificing the most responsible
Starting point is 00:20:22 and the best people in our society. That's exactly what happens with the legal immigration in general as well. So what could have been done specifically to prevent this? How in the world did this happen? How did this person get over the border to New York City to Athens and was able to commit this horrendous crime and to murder this young woman? Did the officials, not just in Athens, but in Georgia, Do they really do what they needed to do to protect its people?
Starting point is 00:20:55 We'll get into that in just a second. All right. So this is what ICE has to say. They confirmed the U.S. Customs and Border Protection first arrested Ebarra on September 8th, 22, after he illegally entered the U.S. near Al Paso. But he was paroled and released for further processing, apparently because they didn't have enough room. Now, whose fault is that? Whose fault is that? Who gave the incentives?
Starting point is 00:21:32 to these aliens to cross the border, first of all. And why were these detention centers so over flooded with these people who have been incentivized to come here? And then why was the policy for someone like this to just be released into the interior of the United States without any further processing whatsoever for him to commit a series of heinous crimes? Whose fault is that? I mean, it's probably a lot of people's fault, but ultimately it's Biden's fault. Ultimately,
Starting point is 00:22:07 it's Majorcas's fault. I mean, they have done everything possible to encourage the immigration of the world's worst people, not just from South America, not just from Mexico, also from China, also from the Middle East. They're coming here. Not for a better life, guys, okay? They're not asylum seekers. They're not refugees. You know, there's a legal process that you go through to be a refugee or to be an asylum seeker, right? And if you truly are seeking refuge, if you truly are seeking asylum, you're going to go to the next safest country. So if you're in the Middle East or you're in China, America is not the next safest country. If you're in a country like Georgia, America is not the next safest country. If you are really looking for refuge in
Starting point is 00:22:57 asylum, you do not come through Mexico to the southern border. That is not the same. That is not the safest thing to do. No, but they're coming to America because they see our leadership. And our leadership says, we're not going to do anything about this. You can come in and you can mooch off everyone else. You can get on welfare. You can commit hortable crimes. You'll be released from prison. You'll get to bop around to all these different sanctuary cities. You'll get to live it up. And you know what I think really just shows this, represents this? We'll put this picture up on the screen. I saw this side-by-side photo of when Ibarra was originally arrested back in 2022. And then what he looks like today.
Starting point is 00:23:42 So you can see what he looked like in 2022. You see what he looks like today. Look how fat he has gotten. And I'm not just trying. I'm not just like making a superficial slide against him. I'm not just trying to offend him. But this is what you get to do. This is what you get to do if you're from Venezuela or you're from another country.
Starting point is 00:24:03 You get to cross into the United States illegally and you get to get fat. You get to take the resources and take the spoils of everyone else's hard work. And you get to pillage this country without producing anything, without paying any taxes. The fact that we can have an illegal alien here who gets fat after being here for two years and then takes his final bow by murdering a 22-year-old nursing student, I mean, are we even a country at this point? Are we even a country at this point? In order to be a country, you have to have sovereignty. That is definitionally what it means to be a country.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And in order to have sovereignty, you have to have parameters. You have to have a definition, right? Like you are not a country. You do not have sovereignty if you can't even define where the country is on a math. And at this point, I'm not even sure that the lines, the parameters of the United States really mean anything. They're completely flexible and they're completely porous. So that's what happens. That's what happened with this young man who has now become a murder. So he was arrested, as I said, last October. He was released. According to News Nation correspondent Ali Bradley, Diego Ibarra entered the country illegally twice, actually. So it wasn't just that one time. And you know, I was talking to one of you on Instagram and you are a Venezuelan immigrant here legally and you have family back home in Venezuela. I've heard this from several immigrants. from Venezuela here, who say that their family back in Venezuela are actually kind of happy
Starting point is 00:26:00 about the immigration situation here in the United States because the streets are safer in Venezuela than they are here because what is Maduro doing? He is sending all of the violent criminals in Venezuela to the U.S. border. So that's what's going on here. This is according to the Western Journal. The Department of Homeland Security has reportedly verified that the Venezuelan government is releasing violent criminals from its prisons and sending them to the United States. Randy Clark, a 32-year veteran of Border Patrol, wrote a piece for Breitbart,
Starting point is 00:26:33 detailing a then-recent DHS intelligence report received by the Border Patrol instructing agents to look for Venezuelan inmates. The report indicated that Maduro was purposely freeing inmates, though the report did not specify that the release could be a purposeful geopolitical move specifically intended to impact national security. Well, what does it matter? I mean, it is obviously impacting security. This was apparently confirmed in 2022. The DHS confirmed that the Venezuelan government is emptying its prisons and sending, again, the worst of the worst people to the United States. Is that what happened here? Not totally sure. Back in 2022, Bill Malugan, I would say that
Starting point is 00:27:17 he is the foremost reporter of what's going on at the border. He's with Fox News. He reported. a couple of years ago. Good morning from Eagle Pass, Texas, where another large group of approximately 200 plus migrants just crossed illegally onto private property. Almost all of them are single adults, mostly from Venezuela. Somebody hung a Venezuelan flag on the barbed wire fence built by Texas here. Isn't it interesting? You see this with a lot of these communities. They come here and they still have way more pride for their home country that they apparently had to flee because of danger and destitution than they do for America, the country to which they should be extremely grateful. And so I just want to like, I just want to say something that I know is controversial.
Starting point is 00:28:06 In addition to the controversial statements that I've already made about the fact that there are different cultures in the world. There are different kinds of individuals. Not all cultures are the same. Not all cultures are equally good. Not all cultural practices. are equally moral. Not all people have the same values. Not all people have the same goals. This kind of like neo-con, I would call it, or maybe neoliberal mentality of everyone in the world has this same like burning desire for freedom. I once believed that. And we're all essentially the same. Yes, we are all made in the image of God. That's true. We are all equally dead and stand apart from Christ. That's true. But cultures are different. America is unique.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Western civilization is uniquely Christian with uniquely Christian values, like the dignity of human beings, like the right to private property, like the idea of innate rights coming from God. Most people in the world and throughout history have no concept of any of those things. And so here is the controversial point that I am going to make to build on that. People of different nationalities and different cultures and different ethnicities and different kinds of backgrounds cannot have never lived together peacefully for long without some kind of transcendent value system. Transcendent common belief system. It just has never happened.
Starting point is 00:29:47 It's never, ever happened. Diversity for diversity's sake has never worked. It always ends in discord. It always ends in bloodshed. It always ends in tribalism. This pie in the sky idea that I think a lot of Christians have, that, oh, we should, we can be like this multicultural mosaic and all live in peace without like the transcendent unity of the gospel.
Starting point is 00:30:15 No, that's impossible. The only place that that is going to be possible is in the new heaven and the new earth when we are all united under the reign of Jesus. And it has been possible in the past in the United States because of this uniting transcendent idea that we are made in the image of God first. We all have equality there. We all are of equal value. And then we're all Americans. But now we don't have those uniting values anymore. So diversity is not only not our strength. It's actually our role. weakness now because we're just assuming that everyone who comes here wants to assimilate and shares ultimately our same values they don't many don't a lot do those of course i think who come here
Starting point is 00:30:58 legally they're some of the best people in the world some of the best and godliest people in my life have immigrated from places like africa they came here illegally they did it the right way they care so much about american freedom and christian values and all of that so this is not an indictment of immigrants in general. I'm just saying we can't assume that everyone who comes here wants the same things that we want. And we just have to reckon with that. That is part of human nature. That is part of human history.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And so America has every right to retain a national identity. Just as Zimbabwe does, just as Mexico does, just as Venezuela does, just as Canada does. Every single country has that right. But at this point, I'll just ask again, like, are we even a country? Do we even have a shared national identity? Like, what does it even mean to be an American at this point? When really all we are is, I don't know, a tax farm for our elites to use our hard-earned money to spend it on their pet projects both here and abroad, a place. where some of the worst criminals in the world can come and strip us of our resources?
Starting point is 00:32:16 Is that what it means to be an American now? And if you even talk about an American identity, you're told that some kind of racist dog whistle, everyone else in the world gets to be patriotic and care about what it means to be a Kenyan or what it means to be Japanese or what it means to be Chinese. But if you talk about what it actually means to be an American, all of a sudden you're an evil bigot. And I think that's not only illogical, I think it's immoral, and quite frankly, I think it's unbiblical. I think God gave us borders. He gave us the idea of countries. He gave us the idea of languages. He created human beings. Yes, again, all made in his image, but we are different,
Starting point is 00:32:57 and we need order. We don't function in chaos well. And this murder is a consequence of that chaos. It's a consequence of that anarchy. It is a consequence of disorder. It is a consequence of borderlessness, which is wicked, which is cruel. It's not empathetic. It's not kind. It's not compassionate. It actually kills. Brian Kemp, he is the governor of Georgia. And I like Brian Kemp. I've had him on the show before. Good family. I'm sure he loves the country. I'm sure he loves the state of Georgia. So he wrote a strongly worded letter to President Biden saying your actions and those of your administration have resulted in everything. state and the country experiencing the disastrous impacts of an unsecured U.S. southern border.
Starting point is 00:33:44 More than 9 million illegal immigrants, he says, have crossed the border since you took office. And he talks about some of the terrible consequences of that. And then he talks about Lake and Riley's murder. And he is basically asking, you know, President Biden to do his job. Because frankly, Mr. President, your continued silence in response to these reasonable request is outrageous. the American people deserve to know who is illegally entry in our country due to your administration's failures and what risks and challenges every state must now face. He asks some questions. Why was my administration not made aware of the asylum claims and subsequent release of an illegal resident who presented fraudulent identification? He is talking about Abara.
Starting point is 00:34:26 What is the current immigration status of Jose Antonio Ibarra? Why has this information not been relayed to my administration? Of course, we already know the answers to that. And fine, these are reasonable. questions. I am just over strongly worded letters. I'm over it. That's what Republicans love to do. They love strongly worded letters. They love to have those fiery moments in the congressional hearing so that they can go viral. But what's actually being done? I'll tell you what should be done. Brian Kemp needs to make good on his campaign promise to arrest illegal aliens and to bust them out. Let me play you. Sot 1, which is from Brian Kemp's election campaign several years ago.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Kate Steinley, Edwin Jackson, and the Cannon family, all killed by illegal immigrants. Donald Trump is right. We must secure the border and end sanctuary cities. As Secretary of State, Ryan Kemp fought Obama twice and won to stop illegal immigrants from voting. I'll do the same as your governor. I'll enforce the ban on sanctuary cities and track and immediately deport all criminal aliens so our kids don't become the next victims. I have a genuine question. Is that being done?
Starting point is 00:35:43 That's not rhetorical. I really want to know. Like, is that being done? Is that what is happening in the state of Georgia? Is he busing the illegal immigrants out? Now, I would love them to be flown out back to Venezuela. But we can at least do what DeSantis and what Abbott did, send them up to the locales that voted to be sanctuary cities.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You can send them all to Martha's Vineyard. You can send them all to New York City. But as we know, somehow these illegal aliens are getting from one sanctuary city to the other. And I want to know how. How is that happening? What NGO is helping them travel? Because it's just a little random, right?
Starting point is 00:36:30 It's a little random for someone like Ibarra to be in New York City, to be arrested and to come to Athens, Georgia. that's random. Unless someone is telling him, hey, here are the cities available to you that have sanctuary policies that if you get in trouble again, you won't be deported, you won't be arrested by ICE. I'm assuming that's what's happening. I'm assuming that there is some subversive NGO that is, I'm sure, financially motivated by the federal government to protect these aliens. We know that's what's happening at the border. Many times these NGOs are picking them up. They're taking them to these sanctuary cities.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And they have no culpability whatsoever when these migrants, when these aliens commit these heinous crimes. So I would just say, Governor Kemp, like, I'm a fan of a lot of what you've done. I appreciate your statement. Let's do something. Okay? Let's do something. Like, do you want another Lake and Riley? Do you want this to happen again?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Why are there any sanctuary cities in Georgia at all under your watch? Should not every punishment? be employed to these three sanctuary areas to ensure that they cannot have any sanctuary policies? Like what can be done? Surely there is a way to crack down on them, to remove some sort of funding and support, to put the pressure on them to ensure that they are complying with ICE. And I would just encourage you. Those of you who live in Athens-Cart County, I believe that your representative is Mike Collins. I believe that that's his name. Brie can fact check that for me to make sure that I have that correct. But I would reach out to him. I mean, he's a Republican and he's
Starting point is 00:38:15 going to support what you have to say, but he needs to hear your voice. The pressure needs to be on him. The pressure needs to be on Governor Kemp to do something. The pressure needs to be on local officials. And even though she was not a UGA student, UGA holds a lot of power in Athens, if I were a donor to Georgia. I would get together with my other billionaire buddies and I would say, look, not another dollar to UGA until Athens Clark County enforces the law, enforces the law when it comes to immigration, enforces the law when it comes to crime. This should have happened a long time ago. Like we saw the influence that these millionaires and billionaires have over the universities like Harvard and the other Ivy Leaks when these very rich donors said, you know what, I'm not going to
Starting point is 00:39:00 donate to you anymore if you continue to fan the flames of anti-Semitism on your campus. So that means that these millionaires, they could have leveraged their influence a long time ago to make these universities comply with sanity and morality. So I'm saying if you are a donor to UGA, you get with your rich buddies and you say not another dollar to UGA until something is done about these policies. And I understand the University of Georgia is not making these policies, but the of Georgia has power. Without the University of Georgia, Athens is nothing. These politicians are nothing. And I know Athens is supported by a lot of liberal, brainless professors and students. But money talks. Money talks. And there are a lot of rich conservative people that live in and around
Starting point is 00:39:50 Athens. I would also say if you are a parent and I know you want to send your kids to UGA, I know you do, because you went to UGA, you're a UGA family, You would never want your kids to go somewhere else. I get that. I totally do. I would say do not send your kids to UGA or to any university that's in a city that is not going to enforce the law for your kids' safety, but also just for principal. And you let them know why you are not sending your kids to Athens, Georgia. Why you will not support the university, you will not support Athens-Clark County.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Defund Sanctuary Cities. defund every district that refuses to enforce the law. Defund social justice. That's what I'm asking you to do for the sake of people like Lake and Riley. For the sake of potential innocent victims, this will keep happening until you use your money, until you use your voice, until you raise a respectful ruckus on this issue. And it's really hopeless and discouraging. It really is because people have been sounding the alarm about the dangers of,
Starting point is 00:41:00 illegal immigration for years and years. So I'm not so deluded to think that me talking about it on my podcast or even some people out there sounding the alarm about it, that that's going to make the major difference. But if you can just do what you can with the resources and the platform that God is given you, whether that's big or whether that's small, then maybe we can. Maybe you can just make a difference in Athens. Maybe you can just make a difference in Georgia. But until we do something, there will continue to be more Lake and Riley. There will continue to be more Molly Tippets's. There will continue to be more Kate Steinleys.
Starting point is 00:41:35 These are all young women in the past few years that have been violently murdered by men who should have never been here. Young women in the prime of their lives. Their lives robbed from them by people who should have not been here. And the blood is on the hands of every politician left and right who refuses to do something. something. People like it to be a campaign issue. Republicans love to keep this a problem so they can get reelected and run on this. Democrats, of course, are ideologically, demographically motivated to let this problem linger because these people eventually are going to turn into voters. And they like the chaos and the anarchy that it causes. It is, I know people are like, ooh, the great replacement
Starting point is 00:42:26 theory. It's so scary. I mean, Democrats talk about all the time that Democratic, demographics is destiny, that that is what is going to change the future of our country, is importing voters that don't share the same Christian freedom-loving values that you and I have. I mean, it's a long-game strategy and it's brilliant when you think about it. And so they don't really care if there's some innocent bloodshed in the meantime. It's all for the greater good, progressive tyranny, of course. So that's what's going on here. And I'm just so sad.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I'm so sad. I'm so sad for her friends. I'm so sad for the potential victims, for the future victims. They're inevitable. Like we have a record number of illegal crossings. Terrorists, rapists, traffickers coming in over the border. And very few people are doing anything about it. Man, pray for our country.
Starting point is 00:43:25 pray for God's mercy and guidance and like some kind of just like miraculous conviction in the hearts and minds of the politicians who have the power to do something but but couldn't it is representative Mike Collins by the way he does represent um Athens Clark county so I would say he's the person um to reach out to and as well as Governor Kemp's office where the buses Governor Kemp, where are the buses? Let's do what you said that you were going to do, what you ran on. All right. That's it on that story. And of course, I talked about it a lot longer than I was going to. But we are going to get into these other stories, even if it's a longer episode, because I just got to cover them too much going on. Okay. Everything that I just said there would be flagged by the good people at MSNBC and elsewhere as so-called
Starting point is 00:44:35 Christian nationalism. I'm using big scare quotes for those who are just listening to this. And as we've talked about many times, this is something that is very loosely defined, but is consistently used as a mallet to bludgeon only conservative Christians. Remember, it's not Christian nationalism if, say, a predominantly black church is standing up there and saying that the Holy Spirit is using black magic to help Fannie Willis in her trial. It's not Christian nationalism. If Democrat politicians are visiting these predominantly black churches and saying, vote for us, God wants you to vote for us. God wants you to give me power. God has given me power. And if you give me the power that God is ordained to me, I'm going to do
Starting point is 00:45:24 X, Y, Z for you. That apparently is not Christian nationalism. But if a conservative says, hey, our rights come from God. That is, by the way, what the founder said, that we were endowed with certain inalienable rights by our creator. That's the Declaration of Independence. If you say, hey, I believe that it's wrong to kill babies. It's wrong for anyone to kill a baby, inner outside of the womb. And yes, my belief that we are made in God's image,
Starting point is 00:45:50 my belief in Psalm 139 that does motivate that. If you have a Christian understanding of the world and you bring that in to the public sphere and how you work and how you speak and how you vote, we are told that that is scary, dangerous Christian nationalism, that that is anti-democratic, only if you are conservative Christian. If you are Christian beliefs erroneously motivate you to vote for Democrats, to vote for abortion,
Starting point is 00:46:16 to vote for anti-Christian ideals, then that's all well and good. Here is Heidi Pryzebilea. I'm not totally sure. Is that right, Bree? Prisabila. she's on MSNBC. Bree doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I don't know either. She went viral on Thursday when she was asked about the infusion of Christian nationalism in Congress following the appointment of Mike Johnson is House Speaker, Mike Johnson, who is the House Speaker? He is, I wouldn't even say he's like all of that conservative of a Christian. Like he was kind of repeating some BLM talking points a few years ago. But he has definitely talked about being an evangelical Christian and believing a lot of the things that you and I do. And I really appreciate how outspoken he has been about those things. And I totally agree with him on a lot of the things that he says. But apparently this is for the first
Starting point is 00:47:08 time in all of history, in all of the history of America, very problematic and scary and tyrannical. So here is what Heidi said on MSNBC just a few days ago. The one thing that unites all of them, because there's many different groups orbiting Trump, but the thing that unites them as Christian nationalists, not Christians, by the way because Christian nationalist is very different, is that they believe that our rights as Americans, as all human beings, don't come from any earthly authority. They don't come from Congress. They don't come from their Supreme Court. They come from God. Oh my gosh. That is so radical. That is so extreme. That is some new modern idea that we just came up with. That's brand new
Starting point is 00:47:55 information in the words of Phoebe. Let me remind you of what the Declaration of Independence says. Let me just read it verbatim for you. We hold these truths to be self-evident, the founder said, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Now, Ms. Heidi is a Polk Award winner. She is a Pulitzer finalist. She is Politico's national investigative correspondent. And she is apparently a smart person. She is apparently an intellectual, somewhat of a historian. And she says the scary part of Christian nationalists is that we believe our rights come from God. Yeah, that's why any of us are here in the United States. The United States does not exist
Starting point is 00:48:58 apart from that idea. So if that idea that our rights come from God is Christian nationalist, then the founders were Christian nationalist and America is a Christian nationalist nation. Is that what you are admitting, Heidi? Is that what you are saying? The truth is, the idea that our rights come from God is why she is allowed to say stupid things like that legally. Because we have the inherent right, the founders believe, to free speech and to worship who we want to worship and within some parameters, how we want to worship. We have the right to defend ourselves. We have the right to property.
Starting point is 00:49:43 We have the right first and foremost to life because without the right to life, neither liberty nor happiness exist. And the reason why all of these have to come from God is because if they come from man or they come from government, then they're completely arbitrary. They're no longer innate. They no longer really belong to us. They belong to the government. And therefore the government, if they are the giver of those rights, the arbiter of those rights,
Starting point is 00:50:13 they then have the authority, the power to give them. or to take them away as they see fit. But we believe the founders believed this was core to the creation of America, that only God, the author, has the authority to give us our rights. And therefore, they cannot be arbitrarily given or taken away. That is core to what America is. But again, going back to our previous conversation, liberals don't even believe in an American identity.
Starting point is 00:50:49 They resent the Constitution. They resent our founding. They hate our founders. They think it's all really null and void. And that progressive should have totalitarian control over everything. And then and only then can we have this beautiful, wonderful, empathy-filled nation, this multi-ethnic coalition where everyone just gets a lot. belong. And it is anti-human nature. It is anti-biblical. It is anti-truth. It is absolutely
Starting point is 00:51:24 absurd. And this is why progressivism fails. This is why the city is run by progressivism, who are like pro-legalizing drugs, pro-legalizing homelessness, pro-legalizing crime and theft and all of these things. This is why they fail. It's why they're running to the ground because progressivism doesn't understand human nature because it doesn't understand where human beings come from. If you don't understand or believe in its creator, you can't really understand the creation. And that's why progressives just don't rule well. They don't dictate well. And so that's where they're coming from.
Starting point is 00:52:00 And it's a scary place because this lumps every single person into the scary category of Christian nationalism, which the intelligence community has already done. dubbed a terroristic threat, which of course is ridiculous. That's not where the threat of violence is coming from. That's not where the threat of terrorism is coming from. But they want to criminalize you for basic Christian beliefs. The only kind of Christian that they think is okay is the kind of Christian that is completely neutered that may believe some things in their home about marriage and sin and abortion and all of that. But you can't actually represent those in the public sphere. It is not just anti-Christian.
Starting point is 00:52:42 and it is completely and totally anti-American. Do not be intimidated by this. Don't be intimidated by the lie that you and only you, conservative Christian, cannot represent your beliefs in the public sphere. Everyone else gets to, an atheist, gets to vote in accordance with their faith and they do absolutely have a faith. Every flavor of progressive, agnostic, mainline Protestant, they all get to vote in accordance with their worldview.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Progressivism in itself is a religion. They all get to vote on this completely crazy, fantastical, quasi-religious belief that a man can become a woman. That's fine for them to bring their subjective beliefs into the public sphere. But when you conservative Christian do it, that's when you're a terroristic threat. Yeah, I mean, it's so on the nose when you look throughout history of, for example, Soviet Russia or Mao's China. It is so obvious what they're trying to do, but you can't be
Starting point is 00:53:45 intimidated by it. Of course, I'm not saying that you embrace the extreme examples of what they're talking about that might actually be violent and terrible and all of that. But continue to be a Christian out loud. Be a Christian in how you vote and how you talk and the things that you do and how you work and how you enter into the public square. Absolutely. They're trying to intimidate you into complacency, into apathy, into silence. And you just can't do that. You just can't do it. Like, lives depend upon it.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Really, they do. I mean, we are voting against, we are standing against things like child sacrifice, which the church has always done. The church has always, everywhere we have infiltrated, every single society that we have stepped into, we have put an end to child sacrifice. We have said no more. And the Democrat Party today stands for child sacrifice,
Starting point is 00:54:34 the butchering of children's bodies in and outside of the womb, whether it's through quote unquote gender affirmation or abortion. The least we can do is the church is what the church has always done stood against child sacrifice. And you are the last barrier between them and total control and total utter depravity. So don't be intimidated by this stupidity. It is stupidity, but it's dangerous stupidity because these people not only have a voice, but they also have influence. and they are influencing what the government,
Starting point is 00:55:09 what the government implements as far as policy goes and what they think about us and what the intelligence community is planning to do, I'm sure, in an election year, when it comes to those of us who want to raise our voice about things like immigration or freedom of religion or abortion, whatever it is, we've already seen what they are doing and arresting peaceful pro-life protesters.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Scary times. I would say not only should we be, reading the Bible on a daily basis. Make sure that we are absolutely and totally equipped with God's word. But if you can read some Live Not by Lies, if you can read some Solton Heitzen, always get the pronunciation a little wonky. But if you can read a little bit of Soviet Russia and be prepared to not only live not by lies yourself, but don't let the lie triumph or be perpetuated through you. what can we only do? What can we only do the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the
Starting point is 00:56:11 glory of God? Sometimes it's very public and loud. Sometimes it's very private and quiet. Sometimes it's just prayer. Sometimes it's just evangelism. Sometimes it's just changing diapers. But sometimes it's speaking up. Sometimes it is calling your senator. Sometimes it's raising a respectful and loud and relentless and persistent ruckus because lives are on the line. Politics matter because policy matters because people matter. Politics affects policy, policy affects people, and people matter. Christians know that better than anyone. Okay, all right. That's all we got on those two things. We are going to talk about just one more thing. End on a lighter note. We're going to end on a lighter note. All right, comedian Shane Gillis hosted Saturday Night Live over the weekend and he caused a stir.
Starting point is 00:57:08 SNL gave a platform to a guy that they had to fire several years ago because people had dug up some jokes. that he made in the past that they called insensitive and misogynist. And I think racist was probably one of the critiques leveled against him. Now, I don't really, I'm not familiar with Shane Gillis, so I'm not defending him. I've seen a few of his things and a few of his jokes on my Discover page on Instagram. And it's been funny. It's not your typical, like, progressive stuff. And so I always appreciate people willing to go against the grain. I'm not saying he has like a Christian or a conservative, but there is something to be said about people who are willing to go against the progressive zeitgeist. And so he came back after being fired from S&L in 2019, he came
Starting point is 00:57:57 back to host the show. So I'm sure he felt like there was some vindication there. And he made a couple jokes that apparently didn't really land that well with S&L's more left-leaning audience. And so here is Sot 3. My mom asked me, she's like, when did we stop being best friends? And she's right. We used to be best friend. You remember that when you were a little boy and you like, you loved your mom and you thought she was the cool?
Starting point is 00:58:24 You remember when you were gay? You remember when you were just a gay little boy? Every little boy is just their mom's gay best friend. There's literally zero difference. Okay, so apparently the audience that was present actually did like that joke, but the chatter online was that, oh my gosh, this is a homophobic, bad gay joke. He also has a bit about Down syndrome that he has told several times. I've heard it and he shared it on here. Of course, some people called it ablest and some people said, oh, it's all in good fun. He's not actually demeaning this group of people.
Starting point is 00:58:57 But here is his joke about Down syndrome. Yeah, you can always tell who's never been around Down syndrome when you bring it up. Like if I tell people, if I'm like, yeah, I have family members with Down syndrome, people that have never been around it are always like, oh, like it's like it's the end of the world. Like, oh, are they okay? Are they doing it? It's like, they're doing better than everybody I know.
Starting point is 00:59:17 They're the only ones having a good time pretty consistently. They're not worried about the election. They're having a good time. He tells a joke about his uncle, Uncle Danny, I think, who has Down syndrome. And I'll just go ahead and tell the, like, maybe one of the most controversial jokes that he has. I'm not going to tell like he tells it. But he does a crossover of a gay joke and a Down syndrome joke. And he's like, you know, they say that gay isn't a choice, but all the guys I know that can't think love women.
Starting point is 00:59:53 That's when he's talking about Down syndrome. I'm not, I am not supporting his joke. I am just saying that is one of the controversial. controversial jokes that he tells. And it is, I mean, it's funny. It's funny. I'm not saying that we should sign off on like every bit of morality that a comedian represents, but it's a funny joke. It's kind of a clever joke. He also joked about there was a cracker joke. I haven't heard this one. And apparently he got a big applause. So here it is. I'm not saying it's like something I'm looking forward to, but I think it'll be a nice thing for the whole country. I would say when my niece is probably in like fifth, six, grade out at recess and some white kids out there like hey you're not allowed to play with us you're retarded and then uh three black kids come flying out nowhere you start wailing on that cracker everyone's like it's like a nice moment okay brey can you explain the context yeah so right before that
Starting point is 01:00:54 he has described his sister's family and she they adopted three little black boys and then they had a biological child who has down syndrome so he's explaining that her three brothers would essentially be beating up the white kids for calling her the R word. So that was the context of that. And they loved that. The audience loved that one. Oh, okay, because it was like black people against a white person. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Seemingly. Yeah. Okay. I know that some people will think that I'm like a fuddy daddy for this. I am like anti-R word. I am so anti-R word. I'm not. I know people call it like politically correct.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I just really hate it. I hate the R word. I just do. You don't have to agree with me on them. It's not like I go around using it either. No, I know. I just, I didn't want you to think that I was looking to you to validate me over there.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Oh, no. But I just, I hate it. I hate it. I think that it's so like, I don't know, degrading to a group of wonderful, wonderful people who actually,
Starting point is 01:01:57 some of them do suffer from mental retardation. Not everyone with some kind of special needs is. And that's what I also. don't like about it is that everyone with special needs like autism down syndrome whatever it is they're all kind of like put into that category of mental retardation and then that like adjective is used to describe the world's worst things and i just i personally just don't like it so just f y i there don't love it um the the use of that word but i understand that this is an s and l monologue And, you know, I do think it says something about SNL that they were willing to have someone on that has maybe a more conservative fan base, Bree.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Again, he's not a conservative. He kind of jokes about, oh, I'm going to be a Republican soon, but I'm not yet. But SNL is so far left that I actually think it's kind of impressive that they had him on. Yeah, I know the conversation before this aired because they teased it a few weeks in advance. And yeah, the conservative side was very excited for this episode. Just I think because he is willing to say jokes that like other comedians wouldn't. And I don't even think the SNL, the people who produce SNL liked this monologue. You can tell the band behind him is not laughing the entire time.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Okay, but apparently they don't laugh. I saw that. Oh, I've seen them laugh before. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay. Maybe they're not a regular watcher. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I'm sure that they don't share like the same values or even if they do, they had to keep it in, they had to keep it inside. Yeah. Controversal, why do you think S&L is doing this? Why do you think that they're having back on someone that they fired for apparently being racist and homophobic? I think just because he's a big deal now. Yeah. I don't think it's like to make amends or anything. I think he got his Netflix special. That was one of the highest viewed specials on Netflix ever. He's getting another one. Now he's got. getting a show on Netflix. He's a big deal and people love him. And so I think it was just for views. Yeah. Um, they had Nate Braggasi recently. Yeah. He's my favorite. Love him. Love. Love. He's not, he doesn't talk really like about politics or anything at all. He's just like a clean comedian. Yeah. He doesn't cuss. He doesn't talk about sex. I, okay, I went to one of his shows a couple years ago with my
Starting point is 01:04:23 husband, I think that I have the biggest crossover with Nate Braggazzi. I mean, it was like, I felt like the biggest celebrity in the world because I went to a Nate Braggazzi show. And I mean, honestly, and this is not how it is, you know, when I go just anywhere. But I mean, there were probably like 30 different people coming up to me like, Ali Beth Stucky. Ali Beth Stucky. And I was like, wow, there must just be. It's like the evangelical Southern Christian world. The Venn diagram. And you love NAPE.S.
Starting point is 01:04:55 And you love Nate Bragetzi. So yeah, that was really fun. And he was hilarious. There are not many things that can make me laugh out loud or like many comedians. Even if I think it's funny, I'll like give like a, but he actually makes me laugh out loud. And his opener did too, but I can't remember his name. So, you know, I appreciate this. I appreciate S&L, reaching out, getting some different kind of people.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Do you follow Theo Vaughan? Yeah. You do? Yeah. He is very out of pocket. He's so out of pocket. I don't even know if he could. Do you think he could host S&L?
Starting point is 01:05:34 Like, I can't imagine what a monologue by him would be. I think he could, but I don't know that they would let him because. Physically could. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. Do you think? Yeah, no, I think he'd just be too unhinged, to be honest. You would definitely have to fill the audience with Theo Vaughan fan.
Starting point is 01:05:52 You can't fill it with like a bunch of just random New Yorkers or else they're not going to. I just don't know if they're going to get it. Yeah. He's such an interesting person. Yeah, I know. The most interesting person. YouTube loves to feed me Theo Von Clips because I've laughed out loud at multiple ones that have just popped up on my timeline. Well, there's zero.
Starting point is 01:06:15 You can never guess how the clip is going to end. Like you start, he's talking about like a family reunion with his. his cousin and at the end of it he's talking about the most like I don't know out of this world subject and you're like how in the world did we get there I don't know yeah it's part of his charm anyway okay I do think it's interesting how there's like this rising crop of like anti-woke comedians and even if I don't you know agree with them on everything or whatever I do think it's a positive development even like someone like Dave Chappelle and Joe Rogan being only to talk about the things that they do.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I think it's a good thing. The comedian plays a very important cultural role in highlighting the absurd. And they can do more, actually, to change culture than someone who is just literally talking, I think, in a lot of ways. All right. That's all we got time for today.
Starting point is 01:07:10 We will be back here tomorrow. Tomorrow is an episode of Wellness Wednesday. And so completely different change of pace. We're going to be talking about hormones and hormones. birth control and all different kinds of ways that women can remain balanced. So I'm so excited for you to listen to that. We will be back here tomorrow. Hey, this is Steve Day.
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