Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 966 | Where in the World Is Kate Middleton?
Episode Date: March 12, 2024Today we're discussing the conspiracy theories surrounding Kate Middleton's mysterious absence from the public eye. A strangely edited photo sparked questions about where she is after Kensington Palac...e announced she would be out for a few weeks due to a minor surgery, and now the photo has even prompted the Associated Press to put out an international "kill notice," claiming the photo was manipulated and should not be distributed. We dive into all the theories, from body doubles to bad Photoshop, and explain why it matters. --- Timecodes: (01:25) ‘You’re Not Enough’ merch (08:00) Royal weddings (11:00) Context for Katespiracy (16:20) Timeline (22:30) Photo theories (40:48) Headlines in the news (50:30) Why rumors fly (56:04) The Oscars --- Today's Sponsors: Good Ranchers — Go to GoodRanchers.com and use code 'ALLIE' when you subscribe to get a FREE Easter ham and $25 off any box! Cozy Earth — go to CozyEarth.com and use promo code 'RELATABLE' at checkout to save 35% off your order! Seven Weeks Coffee — Seven Weeks is a pro-life coffee company with a simple mission: DONATE 10% of every sale to pregnancy care centers across America. Get your organically farmed and pesticide-free coffee at sevenweekscoffee.comand let your coffee serve a greater purpose. Use the promo code 'ALLIE' to save 10% off your order. My Patriot Supply — prepare yourself for anything with long-term emergency food storage. Get your new, lower-price 4-Week Emergency Food Kit at PrepareWithAllie.com. --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 625 | The Church of England, Academia, & Meghan Markle: The UK's Progressive Problem | Guest: Calvin Robinson https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000565554991 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey
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Hey, this is Steve Day. If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest
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Where in the world is Kate Middleton? The internet is going wild with theories and conspiracy theories
about where she is. If you have no idea what I'm talking about or even if you do,
you've got to listen to this episode. We unravel all of the,
the different threads and go down all the rabbit holes. Oh my goodness. Okay, buckle up. This episode is
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good ranchers.com code Alley. Hey guys, welcome to relatable. Happy Tuesday. I hope everyone is having
a wonderful week so far. All right, a lot to get into today. This is a little bit of a different
episode. We don't usually talk about the Royals. We're not usually getting this far into
what some people would refer to as a conspiracy theory.
I'll just call it a theory at this point.
I've looked enough into this to say,
I don't even know if I could call it conspiracy theories.
They're very interesting theories about the whereabouts of Princess Kate.
Okay, before we get into all of that,
Bree and I, we're going to be talking all about all the different angles of this.
But before we get into it, I've got a merch announcement that I'm so excited about.
Okay, I have been wearing these items on social media and on the show, and you guys have been begging me to make them live on the shop, and now they are.
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I'm actually wearing the green t-shirt right now.
It says you're not enough with the little flower and then on the back, but Jesus is.
We've got two hats also available.
The brown one is corduroy.
That's what material it is.
this might be my favorite that we've done, my favorite design. I know I say that, but they're really
getting better and better. Of course, this is kind of a play on my book or inspired by my book.
You're not enough and that's okay, escaping the toxic culture of self-love. And the whole point
is you're not enough. You're not sufficient. But Jesus is. This is a trope that we hear a lot,
like even in the Christian women world that you are enough. You can't be too much. You can't be too
little. And while I understand the sentiment, I really do. I've thought about it from all different
sides. And it's actually a mantra that I used to repeat. I used to have a little piece of paper
on my bulletin board in college that said you are enough. So I get it. I get why it feels like
balm for the weary heart or the insecure brain. But at the end of the day, we don't need to
comfort ourselves or derive confidence from this idea that we are sufficient, that we're
perfect the way that we are, that nothing that we are is off or in too much of a quantity or
too little of a quantity that's not where our comfort or our confidence comes from.
The fact of the matter is we are fallen people.
And even though we have been made new creations in Christ, if we are Christians,
our strength is still derived from Christ.
Our power, or his power, rather, is made perfect in our weakness every day of our life.
We have to rely on him for our strength, for our satisfaction, for our sufficiency, for our sanctification.
In no way are we enough.
All of the confidence, all of the assurance that we have comes from him and what he has done
for us on the cross. And that's really good news. It's really good news because how we feel about
ourselves, how much we like ourselves or love ourselves is so dependent upon so many different
changing factors. Our mood, how much we slept last night, what we had for breakfast this
morning, what people are saying about us, what they're not saying about us, how much money we make
how successful we feel, a million different things. But God does not change. Jesus Christ is the
same yesterday, today, and forever, Hebrews 138. His love for us does not change. And so it is a much
more solid place to put our feet. It is a much firmer foundation. It is a much more trustworthy
source of happiness and fulfillment. All the things that we are trying in family to find
inside of ourselves can only be found outside of ourselves, namely in our creator. Because
Remember, the self can't be both the problem and the solution.
So if inside of ourselves, we're finding all of this depression, anxiety, this not enoughness,
insufficiency, inadequacy, insecurity, why in the world would we expect to find the solutions
to those things in the same place where we're finding all of the problems?
So we have to look outside of ourselves, contrary to the popular self-love, self-help, self-empowerment,
Brine Brown, Glennon, Doyle advice of the day.
We have to look to God because we are not enough.
We'll never be enough.
And that is really good liberating news.
The burden of sufficiency is way too heavy for us to carry.
So that's what this merch is about.
That is what my book is about.
But that's what these t-shirts, these crunecks are about.
I really, really love them.
You're not enough.
But Jesus is.
And that is really, really good news.
All right, let's get into a much lighter topic, perhaps. Maybe you could consider it lighter. I would say, I'll just say that it matters much less than what we just talked about. But I still think it's important because we're talking about a human being. We're talking about Kate Middleton. It really is kind of a mystery, kind of a mystery, where she is and what's going on. And I have kind of gone between two different,
camps in all of this of thinking it doesn't really matter and then thinking it does matter,
but also the camps of everyone who has a theory about this is crazy to, okay, maybe there's
something to this. And I just want to speak to the people who are like, why are we talking
about this? Why does this? This is just a distraction. This is just something that they're trying
to feed the masses to keep our eyes and attention away from the things that matter.
Let me just say, like, we spend all day, every day on this podcast talking about those things,
talking about the big things that we're told constantly you're not supposed to talk about.
You're not supposed to ask those questions.
You're not supposed to say that.
You're not supposed to question that.
You're not supposed to push back against that.
We talk about those big things that have so much eternal significance, so much worldwide significance,
so much significance on the lives of image bears.
We talk about that every day.
I get it.
This is not the most serious stories.
that we're ever going to talk about. And if it's not your cup of tea, I totally, totally get that.
You can wait for it tomorrow. You can go back and listen to yesterday's episode. You can skip forward
to the next subject that we'll be talking about if we even have time to get to it. But for those of you
who like me have started to hear a little bit about this story, like where in the world is
Kate Middleton, and you're a little interested in what's going on. And you want to go down the
rabbit hole with us? Come along. I'm not a Royals fall.
I really don't care about what's going on between, you know, Megan Markle and Harry and the rest of the royals. It's just not drama that I really pay that much attention to. But I've heard enough of the background noise to kind of have a general understanding of the family dynamics. I will say because I'm just, I'm a girl and what girl didn't look forward to like the royal wedding. So I do remember Kate Middleton.
and Prince Williams' wedding.
I don't know, Bree, if you watched that.
Do you remember?
You would have been in high school.
Yeah, I was in high school.
I think it was in the middle of the night, though.
It was.
Yeah, I didn't watch it, but I remember the day.
Because your parents probably told you to go to bed, but I was a cool college girl.
No rules.
And I think my roommate and I did watch.
And, yeah, I have that kind of steered into my brain.
I still think her dress was like one of the most beautiful dresses I've ever seen.
Yeah.
And then did you watch Megan Markle?
No, I didn't actually at all.
What?
What?
See, I remember that.
That was early, like kind of early in the morning.
And my friends came over and we watched it.
Like a party, a viewing party?
A viewing party.
For a wedding?
Yeah.
So I do remember, but that's about it.
And I did watch some of the Netflix series with Megan and Harry.
Okay.
Yeah.
A lot of controversy there.
Are you a royals person?
No.
You're not.
I'm not.
You actually used to think I was.
Yeah.
I can see it. Yeah. There's no, there's nothing negative about that. I could just see you liking royal stuff. Yeah. No, not really. Okay. Yeah. Read that wrong. Read that wrong. Okay, but we are interested in this kind of conspiracy. Yeah. Because there's a lot going on here. There's a lot in my research document. I would not be surprised if we don't get into the other topics today because there's just so much. So, Bree and I will kind of go back and forth on this and look at all the different angles.
Hey, this is Steve Day.
If you're listening to Allie, you already understand that the biggest issues facing our country aren't just political.
They're moral, spiritual, and rooted in what we believe is true about God, humanity, and reality itself.
On the Steve Day show, we take the news of the day and tested against first principles, faith, truth, and objective reality.
We don't just chase narratives and we don't offer false comfort.
We ask the hard questions and follow the answers wherever they leave, even when it's unpopular.
This is a show for people who want honesty over hype and clarity over chaos.
If you're looking for commentary grounded in conviction and unwilling to lie to you about where we are or where we're headed, you can watch this D-Day show right here on Blaze TV or listen wherever you get podcasts. I hope you'll join us.
Okay, so what on earth are we even talking about here?
When I say where in the world is Kate Middleton, what do I mean by that?
Some of you haven't been paying attention to this at all.
And I just really started paying attention in the past week or so.
So Kate Middleton or Princess Catherine of Wales formally has been absent for.
royal duties for the past couple of months.
She has not had any sort of public appearance since December 25th, since Christmas.
That was her last public appearance.
She had planned abdominal surgery back on January 17th.
And they released a statement at the time saying she's going in for planned abdominal surgery.
She's going to take several weeks to recover.
They said she'll be in the hospital for 10 to 14 days.
That's a long time.
We don't know exactly what.
what the surgery was. She's going to be recovering for the next couple months. She's probably not going
to make a public appearance until Easter. All right. So they said that back in January. It's not
Easter until the end of the month. And so you might think, okay, well, that's it. Why are people even
questioning where she is when they already put out a statement in January saying that she wouldn't
be out and about until Easter? Why is anyone even wondering? Well, there are a few reasons for that. There are a
reasons why people have been saying, it's kind of weird how we see her in these paparazzi
pictures, but she hasn't shown herself publicly. And they also haven't made any additional
statements, like, is she okay? And then things really, really took a turn over the past few days.
When from her account, or from their account, the Prince and Princess of Wales account,
they posted a picture of Kate Middleton with her three adorable children.
So I saw the picture.
I didn't see anything weird about it.
It didn't look off to me at all.
It looked like a very cute picture of her and her three kids.
However, internet sleuths were quick to point out that some things looked a little out of place in the photo.
It looked a little strange.
strangely edited. They posted some pictures showing that Charlotte's sleeve looked a little bit edited,
that the pattern didn't match on one of the boys' sweaters, and that the windows in the background
looked edited. And I saw some of these tweets and I thought, okay, people just need a hobby.
Like, they just need to go back to work or something. Like, you've got too much time on your
hands. I didn't think that they really looked edited. I thought, okay,
maybe some of the blurs or the mismatch patterns that they're talking about.
Maybe it's just that the kids were moving.
I mean, that's what happens if you've ever taken a picture with multiple kids.
It's hard to keep them all still.
I bet that's what was going on.
And there's nothing awry here.
However, however, things got weird when press agencies like the Associated Press, Gettys,
Reuters and the Press Association issued what is known as a photo.
kill. And that is an industry term that means that the image needs to be retracted and instructed
all clients to remove the photo from their systems. The AP said in its advisory, at closer inspection,
it appears that the source has manipulated the image. No replacement photo will be sent.
Daily Mail editor and broadcaster Richard Eden wrote that he never thought he would see a
kill notice on a photo issued by the palace. PR professionals referred to this as a death blow to any
press source and it does not happen often from the AP. So a lot of people online saying this is really
weird to get this kill notice. So the AP, their experts, looked at the photo. They said, yeah,
this actually does look manipulated and not just a little bit. They were specific that some
editing is okay, but editing that seems to significantly change the photo from its original form
is not allowed. And so don't distribute this photo because the AP will release a photo,
then all the other news outlets will take the photo and they'll post it. And so AP
released this kill notice saying it's too manipulated, according to our own experts, do not publish it.
So this prompted the princess of Wales to issue an appellate.
on her Instagram stories.
Now, this is supposedly from Kate herself.
It says, like many amateur photographers,
I do occasionally experiment with editing.
I wanted to express my apologies for any confusion.
The family photograph we shared yesterday caused.
I hope everyone's celebrating had a very happy Mother's Day.
It's Mother's Day over there in the UK.
And then she signed it C, which is supposed to mean that it was directly from her.
All right.
So let's back up a little bit. Let us look at the timeline because this all gives us a little more
context. I gave you some of the timeline like an overview of it, but Time Magazine has a detailed
timeline. And it'll help us understand why people are saying, okay, this image was manipulated
because they're saying something is going on here. I'll get into the theories in a second,
but they're saying something is going on here.
There's a reason why, beyond the surgery, she has been so absent,
there's a reason why this photo was apparently heavily edited.
So we'll get into the details of all of that in a second.
Let me go through this timeline that Time Magazine published.
So as I said, December 25th, Christmas Day marks Kate's last public appearance.
January 17th, Kensington Palace announces that Kate underwent planned abdominal surgery
will be hospitalized for 10 to 14 days.
January 18th, Prince William, apparently visits Kate at the hospital.
January 29th, following a nearly two-week hospital stay.
Kensington Palace shares that Kate will return home to Windsor Castle to continue her recovery.
She's making good progress.
So I think I said earlier they hadn't released any more statements, but they did release
that statement.
February 29th, the spokesperson releases a statement to news outlets, including page 6 and NBC.
And this is kind of in response to some of the conspiracies.
that had already started circulating that something weird is going on.
They said Kensington Palace made it clear in January the timeline to the princess's recovery.
They would only be providing significant updates.
I think people were wondering why the silence.
And they said, you know, there's nothing to update on, basically.
Then March 4th, Kate is photographed in the passenger seat of a car alongside her mother,
Carol Middleton, as a two drive near Windsor Castle, according to images published by TMZ.
The photo, though, is not authorized or released by Kensington Palace,
but it marks the first time the Princess of Wales has been seen publicly since December.
Of course, there are even conspiracies about whether or not it was really hurt.
No major UK outlet publishes the photo.
Royals reporter Emily Andrews claims in a post on exit, Kensington Palace exerted huge pressure
on the British media not to publish that picture.
Interesting.
March 5th, the British Army posts and removes its claim that the Princess of
Wales will be attending their annual trooping the color event on June 8th.
June 8th.
Interesting.
March 10th in honor of Mother's Day in the UK, Kinsen and Palace shares the photo of Kate
and her children, which the palace says, this is the thing to remember, remember this,
the palace says was taken by her husband earlier last week.
Okay.
By Sunday evening, multiple major news agencies, including AP and Reuters,
the image from circulation due to apparent manipulation. While there was no suggestion,
the image was fake, AP pulled a photograph from circulation because it did not meet its photo
standards. AP's editorial standards state the images must be accurate. So the AP did not think
that this photo that was recently shared was accurate than March 11. Kate issues her apology,
not apology for editing the photo, supposedly editing the photo, but apology for any
confusion caused. Hours later, she, supposedly Kate Middleton, I have to say supposedly,
because a lot of the questions that are being asked, is photographed in a car. Really, you can't tell.
Her face is turned leaving Windsor Castle alongside Prince William, though she did not join the Prince of Wales
at the annual Commonwealth Day service at Westminster Abbey. Okay, so this is a picture that we see,
and it's up if you're watching on YouTube of her turned away to the side. Now, to me, it looks like
her. It looks like Kate Middleton. I would have never a second guest, but people are showing,
and this SOT 3, that this is also a manipulated image going on here and that it's been that there's
another photo that this is actually from and that this isn't a recent photo of Kate. So here is that
theory. Okay, Bree, can you, I know that was silent. So people who are listening to this didn't
know. Let me explain like, well, maybe you can explain, Bree. What exactly is that editor doing,
trying to show? Yeah. So there's an image from just some random image of Kate that they're claiming
they took and sort of edited into this.
Yeah, see they're sort of fading an old image into this to show it's the same exact position.
And it looks like she's even wearing the same like hat even.
Okay.
So what they're saying is that this photo wasn't really taken the other day as they're saying.
But that this is an old photo that they released to try to say, yeah, she's a lot.
live and well. She's fine. Yeah. And also people have noted that the bricks don't match,
like the top of the car bricks don't match the window bricks. Interesting. Okay. So that's the thing.
People are just saying what is really going on here? If that's really fake, of course,
we don't know whether that's a fake photo or not. The sleuthing is interesting now. Let's get into
this analysis of the photo that was shared that really sparked my interest. So there are many,
many tweets about this that are looking into this specifically and all the ways that this
photo just doesn't look like a normal photo. Now, to the untrained eye, which is my eye,
it does, but I guess to the trained eye, they were able to zoom in and tell. And so I'll go
through one thread. There are many threads out there, but this one has 54,000 likes, 8.6 million views. So this
seems to be a popular one. A lot of people commenting on it saying, yeah, wow, you're right.
So I'll go through this. And this is just better to watch on YouTube, FYI, because you'll be
able to see what I'm talking about. So this person, John Mark, he's a photographer. He highlights
a few of the issues with this recent photo that is starting, that is getting even more people
asking where the heck is Kate Middleton and why are you all sharing this? So,
One of the things that people are saying is off is Charlotte's sleeve right there.
I guess it's a little bit blurry.
There's a part of her sleeve that's missing, which if she had been kind of, if the sweater
had been changed in any way in editing or had been like superimposed on her brie, that could
cause that, right?
Yeah.
You can kind of tell in a close up that it seems like the hand that's holding her.
her was kind of photoshopped in because it cuts her sleeve off.
So yeah, there's like there is no explanation for that to be real in a photo.
Yeah.
Unless she was unless what if she had been moving though?
And she was trying to Kate apparently who were supposed to believe edits her own pictures.
Yeah.
Bless her heart.
Yeah.
She was trying to fix or what if there was a stain on her sleeve or something?
I mean, you don't think?
No.
It's just when I look at it, I can't even imagine that she, I can't even imagine what was going through anyone's mind when they edited this.
Because it's very clear to me.
Something is missing there.
Yeah, something is missing there.
Something's missing there.
Okay, they're also noting that the zippers, I can't even see that.
The zippers on her jacket apparently are not completely lined up.
So that looks edited and I guess I think they're saying that the jacket was added.
Yeah.
Right?
To the photo.
And I'll explain why people think that they were added in just a second.
There's so much here, guys.
There's so much here.
Also, the daughter's skirt waist is extended awkwardly.
You can see that in that photo.
Kate is not wearing her wedding ring.
But where would that come from?
Like, why would that indicate that something that's something that?
is being edited.
Well, people are saying if she's not wearing the ring, then it's not really her hand.
Oh.
That it's just they put someone's hand there around.
Okay.
So this picture they are saying is not real at all.
They literally are taking the kids from different photos and Kate from different photos,
which we'll get into this in a second and putting them together.
Yeah.
That's a theory.
Another theory is that this photo was real, but that someone else was sitting there as Kate.
and then they put Kate's face on the person.
But that wouldn't explain the hand stuff either.
Okay, but it could also be that she's just, that they're at home or something and she's not wearing her wedding ring.
Sure, right?
I mean, that's normal.
Yeah, that could explain that.
Okay, so just giving all the different explanations.
Although I will say for the royal family, this is a detail that they typically wouldn't.
Right.
That's true.
Okay, I don't see it in this thread, but I did notice.
that the boys, I don't know his name.
See, I don't follow the Royals, the second boy.
I don't know.
The youngest, the design on his sleeve, on his like outside arm doesn't match.
And we'll put that picture up too.
Like it looks like it's mismatched.
And I don't think that that's a stitching error.
I guess it would just be bad.
editing. Okay. So people are looking at all of that and they're like, well, there's something,
there's something weird here. And I also, just to be completely candid, I don't believe Kate's
explanation either about experimenting with editing. Because I don't know what you would have been
trying to do, you know? And people are also pointing out that the windows in the background
look weird.
Yeah, that's actually one I didn't buy, though, because if they're in the UK, those windows could
just be, like, weathered.
Yeah.
Maybe not royal buildings.
I don't know.
But that seemed not as, I don't know.
Yeah.
The photography thing, though, I've heard that she actually is quite a skilled photographer,
actually.
Yeah.
And that this, that probably wouldn't be how she would edit.
She'd probably be a little more skilled than that.
I don't know.
And also, like, are you really?
Maybe you enjoy editing your own photos, but I would definitely hire someone to do that part.
Yeah. And you wouldn't, I would think they wouldn't release it. That's the most bizarre part of this.
That's the thing. Yeah. You would think that you would have a professional editor look over it and say, this is a little weird.
But again, maybe they were just thinking that most people are like me. I would have never, ever caught any of those things unless you told me to look for them.
Yeah. I would have never caught it. And I, even if I had, I wouldn't have thought it was.
Okay. So going back to the theory that this is a fake photo that they're putting together because they realize, wow, okay, people are worried about Princess Kate. They're talking about where she is. This doesn't look good. We got to put out this photo and say here she was just earlier this week. Well, there are some theories, as Bree alluded to, that this is not really Kate sitting there or this is not really her picture. Some people are saying that they're. That they're.
They have taken her face from the Vogue cover that was shot a couple years ago.
And that is what they are using for this picture.
So again, if you're watching on YouTube, you can see what I'm talking about,
how apparently it is like a pixel match.
And I'll play a little video that someone posted of this happening.
Now, Bree, is that possible?
Like, she's wearing a hat in that Vogue cover.
How would it be possible to edit that?
And why would they choose that?
Why would they choose a picture of her where she's wearing a hat?
And then take the hat off.
Yeah, it is weird because you could pick any picture of her, really.
That's like straight on.
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely possible.
I don't know how to do it in Photoshop.
And it also is weird to me that someone who would make these Photoshop mistakes
would be able to do something like that.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I'm kind of convinced it's a very similar,
it's a very similar picture.
It is a very similar picture.
And I do think that if this is what happened,
then they were trying to choose a picture of her from straight on
where she's not wearing very much makeup because this is an at-home picture.
So that could be more, that could be more difficult to find than other pictures.
So I could see why they chose that one.
But yeah, that would take a lot of skill
to make her hair look just the right way.
But apparently they couldn't fix the sleeve on Charlotte's sweater.
So that to me kind of goes in the camp of maybe it's not edited.
However, maybe this hair was the hair of the person who was actually in the photo.
It would match Kate that closely.
Maybe.
Who would this person be?
Maybe it's just like a double they brought in to take the photo.
I don't know.
Okay.
So a double that has similar body, similar hair, and they put the face on, they put the face from the Vogue cover on her.
Okay.
Well, maybe.
See, I thought, let's talk about the caption for a second.
So I thought, my first thought was that I had missed something because she looked very thin to me.
Now, she always looks thin.
She's a small person.
but I she was she's sitting down okay she looks very thin and then the caption is thank you for your
kind wishes and continued support over the last two months so I was like wow they must have
announced that she's sick or something or that it was like this planned abdominal surgery was a
really big deal and I missed it and then of course I saw all of the conspiracies surrounding this
not that her face looks sick but I thought that the picture of all of her kids standing while she is
sitting and her looking so thin.
I thought that it was indicating that she was not feeling well.
I don't know.
So that's not really a theory.
That's just like the first observation that I had.
Yeah.
But I hadn't thought about the body double thing.
I will say that.
I will say that.
Okay.
We've got more, more theories about there's so much more on this particular picture
that sleuthers are sleuthing on.
All right.
So some people are.
saying that this photo or the different photos where this photo is from are actually from November
December, 2003, not last week. And here are some reasons why people say this. They say that it is
from an official appearance that was made last year launching a Christmas Baby Banks initiative.
but the outfit colors appear to have been modified.
And so one person on Twitter says the fashion girl,
he solved the true date of the Prince William,
the Prince William claims,
oh, the photo, Prince William claims he took last week.
It's from December 2023.
This person says that she thinks that it's a Will's body
that has been swapped for Kate's and the children's clothing
manipulated to mislead.
I'm not really sure about that.
But here's a thread.
The Mother's Day photo dated March 10th, 2024, was taken December 20203, she says.
And then she shows these photos, which will put on YouTube, that make it seem like everyone was wearing the same thing that day as they wore in the picture.
And then Royal Fashion Police, this is an Instagram account that follows this, posted on their Instagram stories making these comparisons.
looking at the daughter, December 2020, what she was wearing and what she was wearing in the photo.
The same thing with Lewis, I think that's the youngest boy's name.
Comparing their outfits, apparently it was the same as December 20203.
George, a similar sweater.
They call it a jumper over there.
And then Kate.
Here's the thing, though.
Here's the thing with this theory.
Bree. The people are saying, oh, they're using a photo that was taken a long time ago trying to say it was recent and it's from this day. The outfits aren't the same. They're not the same. They don't even look the same. So I don't understand this theory. Well, that's the argument is that they made them not look the same. That they were the same. And then they photoshopped them to look different. But that there's no, there's no correlation. Like I don't understand why just because they're,
wearing something that was kind of similar three months ago, it must be the exact same outfits that
they edited. I don't understand what would be the motivation for that. Why not, if you're going to
fake something, why not just make the kids line up in a picture? Yeah, no, that's a good point.
I mean, are the kids gone? That's a really good point. That's a really good point. But I guess
people's argument is that they didn't even bother taking a new picture. They just used an old one
from that day, I guess, supposedly, and edited that rather than maybe getting like a body double or something to play Kate in a photo, in a fake photo, which would be weird for kids to do also.
So that's like their theory is that this was just a photo that was already taken.
And they just edited it to make it look like it was taken when they said it was.
Now I can appreciate that theory that this was an earlier, that this picture was taken a while ago and not recently.
And they just put it out for PR.
It wasn't that long ago that the DeSantis is were also called out for that, which I think is a silly thing to call someone out for.
They put out a family photo.
I don't know.
Sometime last year.
And people were like, this is actually from last summer.
You all are wearing all the same outfits that you wore in this family picture.
and it was, but they never, they didn't say that it was from that day.
But I still think like, I don't know, that happens a lot.
So I wouldn't think it was that weird if they did that.
I will give this theory that it's actually from this particular day when the kids are wearing something entirely different than what is in this picture.
I will give this theory an F.
Ooh.
Yes.
I'm sorry.
Like, that doesn't even make any sense.
It doesn't, it's not even interesting to me because they're wearing something totally different.
So because they're kind of wearing the same color palette, it must be from a day in December.
It might be from a day in December, but they did not prove it.
That's what I'll say.
Now, I will say that Kate's sweater in the wrong color is kind of interesting.
And this is what I'm talking about.
I like some additional steps here, some additional pieces of evidence.
That's what makes it interesting.
So someone on X said this person named Maggie, female internet investigators uncovering.
uncovering the Kate Middleton picture was actually taken in late 2023 based on the match
ribbing on Kate Middleton's sweater, which is only sold in two colors white and cream,
and therefore Kate's black sweater was Photoshop. Now, I have no idea how you figure that out,
but we do have a SOT, SOT one that is apparently showing this.
Look at these boots and look at the pants. This is the exact sweater. It's from a company called
Rice, I believe. And look at that neckline and look at that neckline.
look at this part right here. I've up the exposure quite a lot so that you can see the ribbing
better, but look how it lands on her like thigh area, the thickness of that belt of the ribbing,
and then look at the turtleneck. Yes, I know a lot of turtlenecks look the same,
but I do believe that this was photoshopped to be darker and it was just that cream sweater
because they don't make it in another color. They make it in cream and in camel. Now let's look at
the boots that she's wearing in this new photo. It's the same exact boots as this baby bank
visit that she did with her kids. Okay, so we're back to the baby.
bank theory. Yes, I know. Maybe in like a wild turn of events she wore the same shoes twice.
Or maybe like there are multiple, you know what, I bet I could do right now. Let's see.
Navy, cow neck, sweater, ribbed. Let's see. I bet I could find something. Oh, look, I found quite a few.
There's no way that this TikTok sleuth has figured out that there is zero navy or black, I don't know, that there is zero black cow neck ribbed sweaters out there.
And so it's not a possibility at all that she could have been wearing a real one.
Yeah, I know.
It's quite a stretch.
I will say, I think the closest they get is what Charlotte, the little girl, is wearing.
but I'm pretty sure that might just be like her wearing that sweater again.
I don't know.
Maybe they're not allowed to do that.
I don't know.
But I don't even think it looks like the exact same sweater.
She's not wearing the same skirt.
I don't know.
See, I appreciate the effort, I guess.
But I feel like anyone will believe anything if it's like if someone makes it seem
true enough or crazy enough.
I don't know. You seem to be, you seem to think that it was from that day, a picture from
that public appearance. Yeah, I think there's a case for it. But I think what's more likely
is that this was, well, I don't know. It's hard because I don't think they wear the same
things very often. So it's weird that they're all wearing very, very similar outfits, I guess,
at the same time.
But I don't know.
I don't know.
It's just so bizarre.
It's very bizarre.
Okay.
Let's see.
Some more commentary.
See, I think that this is also a good point, though, more in the favor of what's
really going on.
There are multiple headlines from UK news outlets, mirror, saying,
Royals must release unedited Kate Middleton photo as integrity of future king and queen
at stake.
And then also mirror.
Kate Middleton's Mother's Day pick
plunges Royals into crisis.
Daily mail. Crisis talks.
The Maya Colpa and troubling unanswered questions.
How Kate's Mother's Day photo became a PR nightmare.
CNN, Kate's photo should have quelled the rumors.
Editing it has done exactly the opposite.
Kate Middleton was also trending all day on X.
I saw Pierce Morgan say this.
Like they need to release the unedited
photo, which I agree. Don't you think that that would just quell everything? Just release the picture.
If you really just dabbled in Adobe and you accidentally blurt your daughter's sleep, show us.
Yeah. I mean, you don't have to. It's your picture. But here's what Jessica Krause House and Habits said.
She followed the Royals for a long time. She said, nothing is quite accurate.
adding up. I don't believe Kate, who is a skilled and seemingly passionate photographer,
would arrange such a sloppy Photoshop edit. They have a million beautiful family photos.
Why choose this as image? Why choose this as image to help squash speculation? I also don't
believe she wrote that caption, apologizing for it. Okay. Interesting. Let's see. There was,
Oh, digital editor for Huck Magazine, Ben Smoke.
He said no, he was commenting on this picture, no rings.
Kids all have their fingers crossed, weird blurring on Charlotte's cuffs, leaves on the trees, despite it being early March.
I'm sorry, but they're just asking for us to go full Kate Spiracy at this point.
A short video, someone says, a short video of Kate talking would put this entire matter to bed.
And the fact they can't produce that is making me think she's either not conscious or she's no longer the Princess of Wales, L.O.L. I mean, that tweet went viral. I don't know about that. Maybe they're just trying to say we don't respond to public pressure. We're not going to dignify these conspiracy theories. But they did post that picture in response to speculation. Yeah. And they've also released, I think now two photos that are like very questionable.
And not like, you can't tell that it's her.
Yeah.
Well, they would say that they didn't release them.
Yes, but that, well, the first one, they, they didn't want anyone to see, the one that was supposedly of her in the car.
But this last one that they released, I think yesterday of her like turned to the side that we showed earlier.
That one they're not trying to, that that one I think was supposed to be proof of life.
And it's not because we can't tell it's her.
And she's turned to the side.
Yeah.
We can't get a picture.
of her for some reason. And just a reminder, people think that that is from, that's actually either not
her. Yeah. Or that's from a while ago. So some people are speculating on what really happened here,
less dramatic than saying like she's not alive or she's not Princess of Wales. Some people are
saying that she's either gained a lot of weight or she's lost a lot of weight. Heidi Moore,
she used to be a writer for the Wall Street Journal. She shares a wide range of theory should the
most banal explanation would be that Kate is alive and well, but just put on a lot of weight
for medication or steroids and her old clothes don't fit and the palace wouldn't allow her to be
photographed as anything other than a sylph-like. The second most banal explanation would be
that Kate is alive, but not necessarily well, that cancer was discovered in her abdominal area.
Gosh, that's awful. And that she had chemo, so all of her hair fell out and they are waiting for
it to grow back. The baseline with all the possible explanations, Bainler-Bazaar, is that they hinge on
the reality that the palace has been incredibly disrespectful to Kate herself, which is not
great. And then she talks about all the different other explanations that maybe she lost a lot of
weight, that she has, you know, struggled with that in the past, that there could be other
sicknesses, other diagnoses that are altering her appearance or her ability.
to be seen publicly.
Some people are speculating that it was plastic surgery that didn't go well.
And then there are other theories as well because unfortunately there has been some reporting about problems with Prince William and Fidelity.
This is just a theory that people are throwing out there that is really sad.
but I mean, it's interesting in relation to all of this.
Okay, Bree, can you tell us a little bit about this mistress theory?
Yeah, with the caveat that I cannot pronounce this person's apparent title because it's so British.
Marchioness of Shulmondelli.
Deli.
I don't know.
I saw tweets that were like, you can't even imagine how this is pronounced.
So it's hard to even try.
Okay.
But anyway, she, rumors have been going around since 2019 that she is Williams' mistress.
Why? Where did that come from?
They just, I guess they were just rumors that surfaced then.
This was when Kate was pregnant with her third child.
That's awful.
I know.
And they were never addressed publicly or anything until recently.
So what's weird about this is recently, the independent, recently,
is in yesterday or two days ago.
The Independent released a profile on this woman.
And some are saying, that's weird timing that they would release a profile seemingly glorifying this woman when we don't know where Kate is.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
So the theory is Kate goes missing.
AI doctored image drops.
This is a tweet.
Now his side piece is getting a PR run.
There are signs.
So I don't know. I don't know. I think that's, you know, it's really awful that that is even something that is apparently a possibility or being talked about. We're just saying what people are deducing or the conclusions that they're trying to jump to. That is certainly not an endorsement of like any type of rumor. But that's part of the conversation that's going on here. I am honestly like I have just.
genuine worry about her and genuine concern that she's okay and what their poor children
are probably going through. I mean, I hope it's just fine. I hope that, like, yeah,
she's just recovering. Maybe it is some kind of like temporary change in appearance because of
surgery or maybe things were just a lot harder than what she thought. I mean, any kind of
abdominal surgery, just as someone who's had a C-section before, like, I know it can be really
tough and maybe she's just not up to public appearances and because they care so much about
appearances even if her if her appearance has just changed just a little bit they might say no yeah yeah
yeah i think that the weight gain weight loss theory actually probably holds the most like validity
maybe yeah unfortunately if she looks sickly yeah yeah or the other way around too like i just i wonder if
another theory is that she, this is a darker theory, but that she, maybe there wasn't
a fair happening, or maybe one of them wanted a divorce or something, and she just left and she
just doesn't want anything to do with it anymore.
That is a theory that I have seen. Gosh, I really hope that's not true. I know. I know. And there's
darker ones, too, that she, you know, was committed somewhere. So who's, who knows?
But that's the thing is that these kind of
rumors fly when there is not clarity. And you can say, and theoretically I believe this, that
they're entitled to their privacy, that they don't have to share every little update online,
and that could in some ways make things worse. However, when you are a prince and princess
and when you are a figurehead and people are looking to you, you do, I don't know if O is the right
word, but it is wise to give some sort of clarity. I think that there would be like a lot of compassion
if maybe not. Maybe I'm too naive. I mean, the internet is an awful place and I don't understand
all of the UK press scene. But if there were just like a little bit more clarity about like,
hey, you know, she's just not, we would love your prayers. She's not doing well right now. This is a
harder recovery than we thought. But then at the same time, this could all be a lot more simple.
They said she's not going to make a public appearance until Easter. They could be like, no,
we said that. We're going to do that. We're not changing it just because all of these freaking,
you know, weirdos online and on their podcasts are sharing their conspiracy theories. So just put
this photo up from a couple months ago. We'll make some changes.
it. Maybe it really was her, but maybe her appearance didn't look as great or whatever. So we'll make
some changes to it and we'll release it and people will just have to be okay with it and then we'll
move on. And then it ended up blowing up and making the conspiracy theories even worse. Yeah.
And maybe she'll just make her public appearance in Easter, you know? Maybe. I hope she shows up.
That's the most simple explanation, I think. Yeah. No. I
I think they posted the photo.
I think they just shouldn't have posted the photo.
If they hadn't posted that, then none of this would have.
People would still have speculated, but this wouldn't have happened, obviously.
And I think they just don't know how to fix it right now.
Yeah.
So.
Yep.
And I guess they can't release that.
That's the thing.
That is the thing that catches me, though, is that they can't release the unedited photo.
Yeah.
And I wish they would, but there's a reason why they can't,
Either because they don't like how it looks.
It's not a real photo.
It's got to be a big edit if they're not willing to release it.
Because if it's just Charlotte's sleeve or a changed picture, they'd be like, sure, here, sorry.
We messed it up.
Right.
Don't need to edit past midnight.
But it's obviously a bigger edit.
And the photo kill thing too is what catches me.
Yeah.
So that's the only thing.
Like I'm more in the camp, I would say.
of dismissing all of this
and just being like, people just have too much time on their hands and like,
you know, this is not healthy and it's probably not kind to be saying all these things.
But then I think, but, but, but this picture and the photo kill and the not releasing anything that helps, you know, assuage people's concerns.
They're releasing the paparazzi picture that was apparently from a few months ago.
And yeah, these aren't just like average people.
These are people who have influence and people want to know.
And it's just interesting.
I'm certainly not trying to like disrespect them in any way, but they are a prince and princess.
Yeah.
And it's interesting.
Yeah.
I know.
And they honestly, the royal palace or whatever, whatever their official name is, they should know based on the tabloids with Harry and Megan, how.
nasty people can be about this family.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's hard for me to have like a ton of sympathy for it, to be honest.
But I don't have anything against Kate.
So I don't have anything against Kate either.
Yeah.
I hope that she is okay.
We should pray for Kate.
And their poor sweet children, their children are so cute.
They're such a British family.
They look so British.
Just every bit of them.
So cute.
All right, Bree.
So we didn't do.
our rating the dress and the outfits, which very mixed feelings about those segments in the
relatable audience. Some people don't like those segments. I got a lot of messages last time saying
you love those segments because they're just fun. Did you watch the Oscars? I did. What did you
think? Good overall? Kind of boring. How was Ryan Gosling's performance? Okay, I loved it,
actually. I thought it was really entertaining. The Oscars performance is.
are always so boring because I never I never think the music is even that good his was fun it was
entertaining it was I mean it was like everything a performance should be he was great really he was
great I saw a lot of people complaining about how the the only thing at the Oscars that came out of
Barbie was a performance by all the men in the Barbie movie which is true but it was good it was very
charming and cute so I saw some dresses yeah that looked good I don't know if I saw a
like total disasters.
Ariana Grande's was pretty bad.
Oh, well, you know what?
That's another conspiracy theory or another theory rabbit hole that people can go down.
I know.
What in the world?
I know.
That's not a conspiracy that just happened, though.
But why?
When you become a husband's dealer and a homewrecker, is that what happens to you?
I guess so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The anxiety of all of that.
I know.
Anything else notable happened?
Didn't someone say that he didn't like the directors of a Holocaust movie refute their Jewishness?
Yes.
I don't know.
I think it was a documentary.
I'm not familiar with it.
But yes, he came up and basically said that he refutes like people who refute Jewishness in the Holocaust shouldn't be like conflated with.
It was something about current events in Israel and Palestine.
Trying to basically like apologize.
Yeah.
Kind of like, like, oh, I'm not.
aligned with Israel just because I'm Jewish? Yeah, yeah. Oh, there was a lot of Palestine Israel talk.
There was a lot. The celebrities were so bravely wearing red buttons to call for ceasefire.
And I'm sure it worked. I bet it worked. Yeah. I heard that Hamas, um, stopped. Yeah. Stopped being
terrorists. Because Mark Ruffel of Royer pin. Oh, no. See, they told me it was because of Billy
Elish. It wasn't Mark. They were like, eh, Mark. We all have to do our part. Yeah. They said it
is Billy Elish calling for a permanent C-Spire.
That is the equivalent of saying full stop.
When you say full stop at the end of something, that's when everyone's like, okay, I will do it.
Even Hamas.
Yeah.
No, I think Hamas was like, okay, girl, gosh, calm down, fine.
All I had to do is say so.
And then she went and sang a song from Barbie.
Yeah, they were waiting on Billy to say something.
And then when they finally did, they said, call it off.
Call it quits. No more. No more. Release the hostages.
Yeah. Gosh. Very stupid people in Hollywood. But what else is new?
All right. That was kind of a different episode for us. I hope that you enjoyed it. I mean, yesterday's episode was kind of scary and like very, very serious. Today's episode, it matters because Kate Middleton is a human and she matters, but it matters less than America turning into Soviet Russia, I think, right? All right. That's all we got time for today.
We'll be back here tomorrow.
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