Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 992 | Kanye Is Now a Pornographer | Guest: Jason Whitlock

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

Today BlazeTV's very own Jason Whitlock joins the program to discuss Kanye West's plan to launch an adult film studio, P. Diddy's sex trafficking trial, how rap music can negatively influence its listeners, and the difficulties facing Christian men today. What should we make of Kanye's sinful venture? Is there any good in rap music? And where can Christian men look for good influences in our modern culture? --- Timecodes: (10:45) Kayne West (27:17) Negative impacts of rap (31:31) What's going on with P. Diddy? (43:00) Themes in music (53:20) Repealing the 19th amendment? --- Today's Sponsors: Patriot Mobile — go to PatriotMobile.com/ALLIE or call 972-PATRIOT and use promo code 'ALLIE' for free activation! Focus on the Family — the new podcast, "Practice Makes Parent" brings you real, practical, and biblical advice. Tune in every Wednesday on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcasting platform. Find the podcast here: https://podcasts.focusonthefamily.com/show/practice-makes-parent/?refcd=1674101&utm_source=blaze&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=relatable My Patriot Supply — Go to PrepareWithAllie.com and get as many My Patriot Supply food kitsa as your family needs for $50 OFF each. Freedom Project Academy — Take back your child’s education at Freedom Project Academy. Right now, save 10% on tuition when you enroll at Freedom For School dot com, that’s Freedom F-O-R School dot com. Fearless Army Roll Call — Go to FearlessArmyRollCall.com to reserve your spot at Jason Whitlock's upcoming annual Role Call event in Nashville, Tennessee! --- Relevant Episodes: Ep 990 | Taylor Swift’s Blasphemy & Title IX Betrayal | Guest: Kristen Waggoner https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-990-taylor-swifts-blasphemy-title-ix-betrayal-guest/id1359249098?i=1000653375778 Ep 768 | Chris Rock: Why Feminists Hate Him | Guest: Jason Whitlock https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000603497793 Ep 181 | Kanye Knows Jesus Is King https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000455482025 Ep 718 | Kanye Praises Hitler & Defends Balenciaga https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/relatable-with-allie-beth-stuckey/id1359249098?i=1000588926867 --- Buy Allie's book, You're Not Enough (& That's Okay): Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love: https://alliebethstuckey.com/book Relatable merchandise – use promo code 'ALLIE10' for a discount: https://shop.blazemedia.com/collections/allie-stuckey

Kanye West has announced that he is launching a porn studio. What in the world happened to him after he announced that he had become a born again Christian just a few years ago? And what is going on in the music industry in general with the outright blasphemy and sacrilege that we are seeing from so many artists these days as well as what's going on with artists like P. Diddy and the sex trafficking charges. Oh my goodness. We are talking about all of this and more with our friend Jason Whitlock on today's episode of Relatable. All right. Before we get started with Jason, I've just got a few things to announce.

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I'm not saying that Taylor Swift used that language or used to that trend to name her tour. I don't really know. I know that she had the eras tour where she was going through all the different eras of her music. That is not what I am. That's not what I'm honoring. That's not what I'm giving a nod to. And you know how I know it existed before Taylor Swift because I was writing the book that I am about to release this fall that I'm about to announce in just a couple. weeks back in 2022. And in the introduction to that, I say something along the lines of this person

was in their blank era. I used that language. And that was far before Taylor Swift announced the name of her, the name of her tour. And so that means that that was part of like the cultural lexicon. That was, I think, some like Gin Z language that hadn't been going on on, TikTok and social media for a while. So in my mom era predates Taylor Swift, all right? And so you can get the merch or not get the merch. I happen to think it's super cute and I like it, but it has nothing, it really has nothing to do with Taylor Swift. She just kind of popularized it. Also, just another thing to say about the whole Taylor Swift thing. And I know some of you were angry, some of you were angry with Bree's opinion about that. Some of you didn't think that I was harsh enough on it.

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Lots, lots, lots, lots that I want to get through today. Okay, first, first I want to hear your reaction to this insane story that I had to make sure was being reported correctly and it wasn't just like a rumor, which I guess it still kind of is. But Kanye West, planning to launch Yeezy Porn Studio. This is according to Daily Mail. I also saw it on TMZ.

The rap star hopes to add an adult entertainment branch to his Yeezy Empire, possibly this summer. Okay, this is the same guy who a few years ago was stunning all of us with his gospel album, his conversion to Christ. I was personally very excited about this. I mean, what's your take on all this? I mean, I was excited about that. I was not excited about this announcement of Yeezy porn. Let me just clarify that. I was excited about the testimony originally.

But what's your take on all this now? Like you, I was bold and hopeful that Kanye was, he's in a wrestling match with fame, which is, in my view, the most powerful drug on the planet in America. And he's losing that wrestling. match and he's tried to fix it with God and it has not worked and I this is it's a very disappointing story and it's you know I had relatively high hopes for Kanye and and you know saluted him in his battle with fame and battle with all the things that Hollywood pours in to young people and trying to get that out. You have to pour so much good in. You have to pour

so much Jesus in. And I thought that's what he was trying to do. But clearly he started pouring other things back in. And you could kind of see it with, he walks around with his wife, half naked and public. And you could just, just the other thing. So he's lost that battle. I'll continue to pray for him and root for him. But I won't be. sending any more of my expectations or rest in any of my hopes in Kanye. Right. So this is how The Daily Mail is reporting this. He previously expressed regret a few years ago. I remember this, that he had watched pornography so often over the years. He claimed that porn had, quote, destroyed his family. He even had a conversation with his staff at the time,

who I think was working on the Jesus' King album, that, hey, I don't want you to have a premarital sex. I don't want you engaging in sexual immorality that seemed like something that was really important to him at the time. And now he's obviously, as we said, announcing this adult entertainment branch to his easy empire. He has said to be communicating with adult film producer Mike Maas, who used to be married to Stormy Daniels, in hopes that Mike will run his studio. Although Kanye has purportedly been considering entering the porn industry for some time, he has now said to be in serious negotiations to start a studio. Wednesday evening, Kanye posted the announcement from his official ex account.

Ugh, this is very disturbing, Jason. Yeezy porn is coming. Very disturbing indeed. And I just see this, yes, is a battle with fame, absolutely. But to me, it's obvious that it's spiritual warfare here. I mean, we can't understand. We can't discern his heart and whether it's, his, you know, what parts of his transformation a few years ago were sincere or just performative.

But, I mean, the gospel was being proclaimed through his music, through some of his Sunday services. God was being worshipped. And Satan did not like that. That we know for sure. That we can say for sure. And as you said, it's just, it's really disheartening and scary. And I'm sad, I'm sad for him that he has now gotten to this place. he's another story about the worship of money and worship of the world and being popular and look it's a narrow path for anyone to see the kingdom and he's chosen the wide path he wants to be popular he wants to be powerful in the world and and you know in order to win the battle he was trying to fight he would have had to separate himself from the commercial music

industry and all the demonic industry, energy that's within the music industry, he would have had to separate himself. And it's no different from the reasons I moved away from Los Angeles and moved to Nashville. You know, I just could not accomplish the things that I wanted to accomplish personally and spiritually in Los Angeles. And so I had to move to safer territory and a place where, you know, it's my thoughts, my worldview isn't so foreign. Kanye hasn't taken any of those steps, and so we shouldn't be all that surprised that he has fallen. Yeah.

You know, I know a lot of people at the time were very loudly skeptical about his announcement that he had become a Christian and his Sunday services. And yes, even within that time, he said some things, did some things that I didn't agree with. For example, I'm not a fan of Joel Osteen. He had kind of hoisted up Joel Osteen and said some things that kind of made me scratch my head. But I was still excited about it. I was still excited that someone like Kanye West would release an album called Jesus's King. And I would say that the theology in some of those songs, like, was really solid. And so I don't know. I don't regret being excited about that at the time. I don't regret talking about it and cheering it on. I think, I don't know.

Christians are sometimes when someone like that publicly changes their ways or seems to change their ways, they're too quick to be loudly skeptical and critical of that. Don't you think that there is some kind of balance between, okay, being discerning and being cautious and also just being outright like the older brother in the prodigal son story? Listen, I'm not going to apologize for being excited and hopeful for Kanye West because that excitement and hope is built around like there's, Ali, I'm much older than you. But so I can tell you that the whole make America great again, America used to be better than this. The culture used to be more supportive of a biblical worldview. you. And so when I saw Kanye, Jesus is king and just professing a faith and a belief in Jesus Christ

as Lord and Savior, I was like, oh, man, maybe this will help the culture return to a tiny bit more supportive of those of us with biblical values, because I think that's important for young people. You know, when I stepped out as a 12-year-old kid or a 14-year-old kid into the world, As a Christian, I wasn't met with the level of hostility that I think Christians are now, that, you know, our beliefs just weren't mocked the way they're mocked now. And I'm not going to apologize for wanting to see some of that reversed and thinking that, oh, man, if Kanye makes it cool for kids to profess their Christian faith, you know, maybe we'll see one or two or three thousand less drag queens at schools or wherever.

And so I'm just, I'm not embarrassed that he's falling. Hey, I may fall. You know, any of us may fall. But I'm actually glad that he at least attempted and is attempting to get in the fight. Now, obviously, at this point with the porn deal, it's so clear that he loves money and he regrets the money he lost in his feud with Adidas. And so he's willing to do anything to make money, including porn. That's disappointing. And, you know, I will not be really taking Kanye serious or talking about him publicly.

Again, I'll be more skeptical. the next time he says, I'm really doing it this time. But apologies or embarrassed because I was supportive and hopeful, no. I'm hoping people are, you know, praying for me and hoping that, you know, I continue to win my fights. First Timothy 610 comes to mind as you're talking about this love of money. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced to themselves with many pangs. And that is, as you said, the love of money, whether it manifests itself in someone's life as pursuing the porn industry or whether it's greed or whether it's gambling or whether it's

just making shady business deals. The love of money is a temptation for everyone to lead us into all kinds of sin and temptation And I think that's part of why Jesus tells this radical message, do not worry, do not fear, do not be anxious. If you look at the lilies of the field, they're dressed perfectly. They never want for anything. They never wish for anything. They're never worried about anything. And Jesus tells us to have as much contentment as that, knowing that the father is going to take care of us.

That's a difficult message in this materialistic day and age. And I would say someone like Kanye, who has tasted that wealth. It's really difficult to resist, but it's tough for any of us, don't you think? It's extremely difficult. Kanye clearly has a God complex. He calls himself Jesus. I think again, in recent days, he's called himself a God again. When a man or woman comes into great financial wealth, the way this world is rigged,

it can trigger you to think that you're a God. You would never say it to yourself like Kanye has or said it out loud. But it can trigger a mindset. I can, you know, someone like me whose dad didn't graduate high school and mom was a career factory worker. And I come from a modest background. And so I can remember in 1994, you know, at the age of 27, I think I started making $125,000 a year. And I didn't think anybody could tell me anything. And I did, you know, I was in position where I was able to do things for my mother and family.

And I could remember my ego just getting completely out of control and you feel like, well, you know what? I got enough money to solve all of my problems. And then as things escalated and I really started making money, that mindset really took over and God had to humble me and say, no, brother. you you definitely ain't me you know and and Kanye will all get humble at some point when Kanye's humility comes who knows it may not come until the very end but I can understand and there's like a there's such a perfectness to God's plan and there's a reason why to take someone like me who's not been married and that's a mistake. And I talk about how, what a foolish minds that I had when I was younger. But like, if you are given great wealth,

you need a wife and many kids so that you don't have just all of this discretionary income and no system of checks and balances a wife that will, hey, baby, what are you doing with that money? You know, we got kids to put through college and things like that. You need that balance. And so Kanye's life, now he's married again, but again, he's not, I don't know if they're equally yoked. And, you know, he's not in a traditional marriage clearly. And, you know, someone like Kanye should probably have a wife at 15 kids. And he'd know what to do with his money. And he'd have a real purpose for it rather than, hey, let me build a studio for porn and the exploitation of women.

But his life's out of balance. And many of our lives are out of balance in similar ways. It's not as public. right about God's plan just being perfect and being good for us. I mean, in this day and age, and this has probably been true throughout history. Actually, you could argue that it's been true since the garden, like viewing God's rules as something that's trying to dampen our happiness or to hurt us in some way. But when you look at, for example, the institution of marriage that God created in Genesis, you see that it is protective for everyone. It's protective for women

who are most vulnerable to abuse. It's protective for children who are most vulnerable to abandonment and vulnerable because they are just mentally and physically weak. And then it's protective for men who have, you know, more aggression and sexual drive and testosterone that would push them outside of, you know, the power that the Holy Spirit gives to sow their wild oats and to channel their aggression in very unhealthy ways. And yet this institution of marriage and monogamy and a man and a woman becoming one flesh, raising children together, raising a home together, building a life together,

that is what changes behavior and protects men from themselves, protects women from predatory men, protects children from pedatory adults. And so it really is. God's plans really are so perfect. And when you go outside of that and we live in a fallen world, not everyone is going to be able to get married, but you do see the consequences of that, especially when we don't prize those things as a society in general.

No question about it. And, you know, in retrospect, you know, particularly someone like myself who lived in Los Angeles for 10 years, was involved in corporate TV for as long as I was and had access to and were around a lot of celebrities. Kanye's fall is actually very predictable and probably expected. He's been famous for so long, been in love with money. If you listen to a lot of his music, there's the worship of money

and showing off your wealth and all that stuff within the music. And again, he's pouring so much poison into his soul that it's really hard to flush all that out. And as someone who grew up a rap music fan and has since deleted all rap music from my Apple playlist

and Apple Library or whatever. and now I just pour gospel music in, just trying to flush out. Music is just so important and people don't understand it, how it changes your soul, changes your mindset, leave such an indelible imprint that there's nothing else that can make you recall memories from 2015 years ago, like music. It's such a powerful tool, and unfortunately,

it feels like Satan has control. control of that tool. Yeah, I want to talk more about that. And obviously, there are problems with rap. There are problems with all genres of secular music, which is what I want to discuss. But you're not really allowed to say, which you are really good at saying things that you're not allowed to say. But you're not allowed to say that may be a genre of music that is constantly glorifying and commercializing murder, drugs, any form of promiscuity and delinquency, all forms of premarital sex, violence, entitlement, greed, money. Like you're not allowed to say that maybe that has a negative impact on the people listening to it.

Maybe it negatively has influenced a particular culture in the United States. You're supposed to just say, no, this is just an equally beautiful form of art as Beethoven or Bach or anything else. It's just as edifying, just as encouraging as any other form of music. Like you're not allowed to say in the same way that some, I don't know, I guess maybe like white women would say, oh, there's nothing wrong with Taylor Swift being blasphemous in her music. It's just music. It's not a big deal. It's not doing anything in my mind or life.

And I think you're right. I think that's how Satan actually. tricks us, we just see music and entertainment as totally neutral and having no effect on our mind or lives or families or culture. It's a very silly point of view that somehow we could pour those thoughts into our head, learn the lyrics to that, be able to repeat the lyrics to that, have young children repeat the lyrics to this stuff, and oh, but it has no impact. And people want to say, well, it's just like a movie. It's a fantasy. No, it's not like a movie because you can't repeat all the words in a movie.

You may be able to repeat a scene or two, but a movie just doesn't mean the kind of imprint on you and music does. And we have to accept that. And so there's a very nuanced conversation that we can't have about music and particularly rap music. And it's a lot like, correct, but I'm pretty sure. Ali, don't you consistently point out like, hmm, pit bulls. Just attack someone. Maybe there's something unique about pit bulls. Maybe.

I don't know. And that's what I say about this music. Hmm, rap music. And rappers, they get killed a lot. I wonder if that's connected. There's all these other musicians. There's all these other celebrities. and they don't get shot and killed the way rappers do.

I wonder if the music has something to do with that. Okay, what is your take? Speaking of rap and hip-hop, I didn't even plan to talk about this, but we haven't talked about it on this show. Everything that's happening with P. Diddy right now. I know it's a big, I know, it's a big subject and a big topic. Yeah, well, I will say this to your audience.

I did two, two, two and a half hour shows just on Ditty. Okay. So people can go and listen to those for your full analysis. So basically he's being caught what? It's sex trafficking allegations, right? Sex trafficking, sexual exploitation, compromising, you know, compromising information on people. He had cameras all throughout his house. But where I really went.

It'll be hard to unpack in just a small segment here. But I tried to get people to understand that rap music is part of a movement to make our culture globally, more nihilistic. If you listen to the music, they're trying to remove us from moral and godly and faith-based principles. And if you look at it's happening in movies. It's happening in everything, but rap music is one of the leaders of this. And so part of what I unpacked is like, hey, look, the same people that own the most stock in BET, MTV, all the major music labels, they also own the most stock in the private prison industry. And so there's part of it is just like, hey, let's feed the bees. let's make more need for private prisons and let's criminalize the culture and mentality of

Americans so that they get fed into this system. And so there's that financial element. But the real thing, the globalist, the people that think the planet is overpopulated, the people that are trying to bait us into a world war so that they can reduce the population, they want us to have a nihilistic mentality where we don't care about life. Our life has no purpose. We're removed from religious faith and moral principles. And that's how you get people in a mindset.

And I'll try to connect to all the dots of like, hey, you know what? I'm inconvenienced by this baby that I carry in my womb. I'm just going to kill it. That's a nihistic mentality that's supported by music and movies. and this whole culture they're promoting. You know, how did we get here where we go from, what they call it, safe, rare, and something else. Safe legal and rare. I'm out in the streets convulsing.

How dare someone say I can't kill my baby? And I've had 16 abortions. How did we get there? We created a nihistic culture. And the music, particularly rap music, has been a big part of that. Yep. And so were you surprised at all to see this coming out about P. Diddy and some of the other rappers involved? No, no.

It's been my argument throughout all of Hollywood, throughout all of corporate TV movies, that sexual exploitation and sexual depravity is at the root of all of it. You can't move up in that industry without getting further and further and further. into their sexual depravity. So it's a right of passage. And so, you know, people are very uncomfortable when I say this, but they know, and particularly in rap music, it's a lower form of music. It doesn't, these rappers, there's a handful that actually have talent.

But there's a most of them, they don't really have talent. You'll never convince me sexy red or Cardi B and some of these guy rappers, they don't have any talent. they put a beat underneath them and they say a nursery school rhyme that's written by a pornographer and they call it music. And they always pick out

the same group of desperate people that sat in the back of your high school class and either didn't graduate or barely graduated, patted themselves up. They're not fit for any other type of work. But will they take a payoff to promote this type of music and a life of fame and fortune and, you know, just untold amounts of money.

Yes. And so they get idiots to get involved and promote the music and become stars. And then on the promise, now you do have to participate in some sexual depravity. And people without options who are all tatted up, they're not like, well, I need to be a dentist or I can be a rapist. That's not their choice. It's either I can go to jail or I can take this sexual deal that Diddy and the other people at the top of the music industry are promoting. And I get to be famous and I get to run around like I'm Jay-Z or I get to be Jay-Z. They take that deal.

They're desperate. They have no choice. And so I've been arguing that for a long time. And again, that's where the kind of rubber met the role with me. in terms of corporate TV that there was a level that I just like, because of the way I was raised

and because of the seeds that were planted in me, it was like, no, I can't do this. And so I'm going to quit. And if that's the price of going to the next level where I have to violate my morality,

I'm just not going to do that. Most of these people don't do that. I felt like, well, I got other options. I can write. I can start my own business. I can start my own business. I can, survive. I've been smart with my money. But, you know, these got little wing, you know,

what, what, would all them tats all over his face? Is he going to be a school teacher next week? What? Well, maybe now, and this new, like, right. But, no, I'm not surprised with the ditty thing. And I've been trying to open people's minds to this for a long time. Yeah, you had tweeted or you had retweeted someone who tweeted hip hop. It was like a, it was a video of a kid, and I've seen these multiple times now of kids either literally so disturbing to even say like twerking to rap music while their parents are like filming, throwing dollar bills. We're talking little kids or kids being used in these rap music videos talking about killing people, talking about sex, or there's just these videos of parents thinking that their kids are cute.

about the most degenerate, just trash that you've ever heard. And there was this one tweet about that saying hip-hop music is raising the next generation of black youth more than their parents. That's why it's so important to bring back the sixth element, which is conscious. I don't know what that means. This is disgusting SMH. I'm not sure exactly what that person means, but you said commercial rap is indefensible. It's poison. And just, I mean, the idea of purposely injecting that poison into children and then using them to make money on social media. I mean, it is so demonic and awful. I'm going to go back to nihilism and nihilism at the heart of the destruction of family.

And so you have a family system throughout America that's being destroyed, but it's most acute among black Americans. Our family structures have been destroyed. That means our kids are increasingly. incredibly vulnerable when you don't have two parents supervising a child that they're more prone to be sexually preyed upon because they're less supervised. And so, and this is all by design. This is, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know, oh, let's take one of the supervisors that God intended to be over this child. Let's remove them from the family structure.

And that's done so they can get to the children. They want children vulnerable. And that's why you will continue to hear more and more and more stories about the awful things that are going on with our kids. Why are they suicidal more so than in any time? Because there are parents that are together that are out chasing money and career and neglecting their children. And we keep wondering why, if we look out on these college camps, emphasis today, Ali, and they're protesting and they're angry about things they really don't understand. Those are kids that didn't get enough attention in the home. And if you don't get

the attention, you want, what do young people do? They act out to get attention. That's what we're saying. We have neglected children because this nihilistic mentality that money will solve everything, not love and not the proper nurturing and development of our children. Leave your children out vulnerable so that these demonic, wicked Satan rule people can have more access to your children so that you don't teach them about gender and sex. Leave it to the blue-haired teacher at school to teach them that.

And you went off and sit in the cubicle and make as much money as you can and will tell your kids what to think. It's all just very nihilistic. It's all, you know, the Bible is still with so much common sense and wisdom that stands the test of time and to watch us all rebel from it and think there are no catastrophic consequences. What an incredible story. It's a sad, tragic story.

We're witnessing it. What do you think about in the music industry now? It's not just the demonic stuff of talking about sexual exploitation and all of that. And of course, that's true across all genres. Of course, sexual promiscuity has been a theme in secular music in, you know, a variety of ways. Maybe in country music it was more like innuendo. And then in pop music, innuendo, maybe a little bit more explicit, but less explicit. than rap. But the theme has been there for a long time. But now it's not just that. It's not just

like the subliminal massaging. I mean, you've got outright blasphemy. We've got Kendrick Lamar, for example. He, I guess in one of his concerts recently, I saw on Twitter, you had retweeted this. He is rapping as Jesus. I mean, it's hard for me to even look at this image. We've got Kendrick Lamar, he's got what looks like a crown of thorns, fake blood dripping down his face, showing himself as Jesus. And then you've got, as you said, Kanye West, the whole Yeez-Sus thing. But then we've even got Taylor Swift. She might not be going this far, but in her recent album, like she has a lot of lyrics where she is comparing herself to Christ, where she is putting herself in the place of God saying, I can save this person. God can't save this

person I can save this person. Roll the stone away. They're going to crucify me anyway. Lots of very sacrilegious themes. We see this with Billy Eilish. We even see this with Justin Timberlake. Justin Timberlake has a new song out where there's just, it's just mocking of Christianity outright. It's like they're testing God to do something. Lil Nazaxi had that music video celebrating Satan not that long ago. I mean, what do you make of this? Like do you think that it's just like, oh, this is just the theme. This is just the trend. This is. This is just what makes the money right now. They'll get over this trend and move on to something else.

Or do you think there is something, a profound spiritual shift going on right now? I think that take the rapper Ice Cube, who was at the onset of gangster rap music. But he sat down with Bill Maher in the last two to three months and acknowledged, like, hey, man, this music industry thing, it's out of control. the songs that we're putting out the artists are being the artists are being manipulated and bribed and pushed into making

that kind of music and so I'm not defending any of the artists but it's like a price of admission hey you know you're going to put out an album and it's going to be 12, 13 songs but we really need this song on the album and so

Justin Timberlake or whomever is sitting there Taylor Swift there's little nausea they're all just sitting there and it's like I can accept this huge check

and put this one song that I kind of disagree with on the album but the rest of the album's going to be and they just make those compromise decisions and so look they're dressing up Sam Smith they dress up and like

satanic gear all red and horns and ice what's it called ice spice is that her name or posh spice yeah i think it was ice spice or something i don't know she's sitting with taylor swift i think at the super bowl and clear his day during satanic hand signals yes that is real and that gave me the chills i'm not someone who looks for satanic symbolism and everything because i'm like i don't need the symbolism to know that satan is real he's the prince of the power of the air if you're Ephesians 2 says. Like, I understand, but I saw that. And I was like, that, I mean, it's in a chill up my spine, actually, seeing her do the

satanic can symbols at the Super Bowl. It's freaky. And it just, if I spice or whoever her name is, if she had some sort of unbelievable Michael Jackson type singing ability or whoever you think the greatest singer is, I'll probably get it, but she's a rapper that wraps very simplistic stuff. So who decided to platform her? Who decided to elevate her? Who decided sexy red gets to, and like sexy red doing songs like Poundtown and this other stuff,

and schools are inviting her to speak to their kids? This stuff is crazy. Yeah, this stuff is great. And so it has to be intentional. Someone has to be paying for this and asking for this. And that again, I'll ask people to go watch the two shows I did on Diddy. It's about five hours, five and a half hours of content. And it's a big larger connecting of the dots explanation.

Yes. Okay. A couple more things that I want to talk to you about before we get to the last question that I have, I do want to. It's just the right transition to talk about the roll call of it that you guys have coming up because we're talking about all of this. And I just think about how difficult it is to be a young man or just a man in general, like, and especially a Christian man. Of course, as a woman, as a mom, like I also see how it's really difficult in different ways to be a Christian woman right now. You've got men who think that they're women infiltrating our spaces.

we've got the elevation of people like Andrew Tate, just a very confusing moral landscape right now that I think negatively impacts both men and women. But man, if you're a Christian guy, you're trying to be porn free, you're trying to be faithful in your marriage, you're trying to be a good dad, you're trying to be strong and masculine and stand up,

defend your community. It's tough. You've got almost no one to look up to in popular culture, definitely not in the political world, the entertainers that maybe you once admired at one point, they're complete sellouts. But then within the church, a lot of times you find the male role models and pastors

completely effeminate. And so that's why I think that your event is so important. So just talk about it, invite people to it. Tell us why you're doing it. And so obviously your audience is probably predominantly women. But we got a lot of related bros out there too. Great. But we also have women that need their husbands or boyfriends inspire.

And I think that's what we're going to do. And what we did it last year, this is Roll Call 2.0, and we've taken it to the next level. And it's all about pouring positive injury to flush out all that negative that we're filled up with. And music is a big part of it. Last year, you know, I was kind of the front-facing, solo person of the deal. And we had good speaker and we had good entertainment. But I've

since now partnered with John Rich, the country music singer. John's dad was the minister. John has a deep faith. We've become friends and I live here in Nashville. And so like the goal of this is we're going to turn this into

a great music and food and speaking festival where we center Jesus Christ. and worship him and encourage men to live up to their biblical responsibility. And so the guys that participated last year loved it, it's going to be even better. This year we upgraded the speakers. Glenn Beck's coming in and going to talk about sacrifice because the theme for this year

is that growth requires sacrifice. And so what a lot of us as men have forgotten and we've forgotten as a culture, the things that we loved about America, we sacrificed to have those things. Men, not us. We just have benefited from those sacrifices. But if there weren't men and women willing to sacrifice, lay their lives down, we wouldn't have these things.

And so the theme this year is just kind of reminding us as men that the things that we want, we have to be willing to make sacrifices for. And so if we want a more righteous society, if we want our politicians to support the values we say we believe in, we have to individually be more righteous. Because the politicians, whether we like it or not, they reflect us.

We are broken and corrupt. And so when we look out and see Joe Biden, you know, alleged Catholic supporting us, abortion, that's a reflection of us. We're hypocrites. We'll say one thing and do something completely else. And so I just want to remind, we're going to remind me like, hey, look, the growth, the progress, the return of spiritual values, we have to be willing to sacrifice for them. And so I just couldn't tell people any more strongly between, you know, Mark, Rock who's running for governor in North Carolina, big, bold speaker, Pastor E.W. Jackson, if you've never heard him speak, man, this guy is amazing.

Then by the time you throw in the entertainment with John Rich and Jeffrey Steele and others, it's a great event. I want you to go to fearless army rollcall.com. Fearlessarmie rollcall.com. Sign up. We've got some great being. IP events on Friday and Saturday. But it's fun and we're going to pour Jesus into you and flush out some of Satan and send you back home a better man. Awesome. Yes, I'm so excited.

I know that the event was awesome last year. It's going to be even better this year. All right. We got a few more minutes left. Jason, I want to talk to you about repealing the 19th Amendment, which you have talked about recently and said that you were convinced by none other than Pearl Davis that we need to repeal the 19th. So I want to hear what's your, what's your thought behind that? And repeal the 19th for people who don't know, that would be repealing a woman's right to vote.

And so people caught the headline that I said, hey, I'm, you know, maybe we should repeal the 19th Amendment. What I also said is Jason Whitlock should not vote even. I think the vote should be about families. And I think if we want a culture and a system that favors families, we have to empower families. And so if you really understand the history of the vote, you know, it was intended to man voted. He represented his family. And everybody back then, I say everybody, but I'm not.

generalizing. They were married back then. And so they became one flesh. And so I don't care who votes in your family, Allie, you or your husband. Y'all can decide that. The only families should vote. Our system should not favor single men with no kids or single women with no kids or just single people in general. We should have a system that favors the family. And in incentivizes people. There are rewards for entering into a marriage and marriages between a man and a woman, entering into a marriage. There should be rewards for that. And the society should actually favor you even at my expense. And so that is my, that the vote should be about the family and that when we used to have a system where women didn't vote.

It was because it was out of a tradition, I believe, of like, hey, the vote represented the family, the husband will be the leader of the family. So he did the bogey. And I'm good with that. So if I don't vote and other single people don't vote, I think we'd actually see an improved country because all the politicians would be figuring out, well, man, how can I make Ali Beth and her husband happy? So your argument is more against the like a hyper individualistic,

hyper individualistic kind of movement trend that we have gone into rather than what I've heard from other people that while we shouldn't allow women to vote because then they tend to vote Democrat and that has coincided with, you know, bad things happening. because I've heard that and I don't know, those people just don't seem brave enough to say if that is your logic behind women not voting, well, then black people shouldn't vote because 92% of black Americans, 92% of black Americans vote Democrat and have for a really long time. And so it's like, I don't know. That just doesn't seem to be the right logic if you're only going to apply it to women and not apply it to other demographics that also tend to vote for what I think are destructive policies. So I understand that anti-individualistic argument that you made more than I understand, well, people who tend to vote Democrat just shouldn't have the right to vote. You're saying that people who have more of a vested interest in the future because they are families, because they have children, that those people should carry more political power than the individual who doesn't have that

same vested interest in the future of our country. In general, in general, married people are smarter, more sharing, more mature, just they have to think about more than just themselves. And they have to think about, well, man, what am I leaving my kids? And so that's going to make them a more informed and a more move away from your feelings, voter. And all of this individual stuff, whether man or a woman, that's when feelings start creeping in. And so feelings, driving decisions as important as public policies, it's a horrible mistake. And we've seen that because look at the insanity we've been writing in. Oh, you know what?

I'm a boy. I'm a man, but I feel like a woman. So I want you all to treat me like a woman. We can't have a world that runs on feelings. It leads to chaos. And we need it based on logic and reason and like what's best for the people that are coming behind me. And that's what parents have to think about all the time. And so I really, I care, but not nearly as much as people think about the Democrat-Republican thing.

You know, all these politicians are corrupt. They're serving their own self-interest. I don't think Republicans can fix deep-rooted spiritual problems that we have, only we can't solve. spiritual problems with political solutions. And one of the, you know, I just had this conversation yesterday with the ministers to come on my show on Wednesdays. But one of the greatest test of faith, one of the greatest rights of passage for faith, one of the things that improves people's faith the most is marriage. And so when people are going through that right of passage, of marriage, and they learn in their eyes, the scales really come off their eyes because they have to step into their white shoes.

They have to step into their kids' shoes and step into their grandparents and all these other shoes. These people are so wise. I would be fine with them deciding what's best for all of us rather than a group of individuals saying, you know, Jason Whitlock likes ice cream. And so we should have to tax or some kind of discount on ice cream because I like that. Yeah, I totally see what you're saying. I mean, I think we would both agree, like, the problem is so much deeper and so multifaceted. I absolutely agree with you that we should be doing everything that we can to incentivize the formation of steady marriages,

marriage between a man and a woman and children, and that there should be incentives for that. Absolutely. I don't think that we are in a place where that is even, like, where moving in a different direction is even feasible. It's just we are so hyper individualistic and we, yeah, we've got so, we've got so many issues. But where, so I don't know, I have to think about it more. I don't think that I, I don't know if I'm fully on on board with what you're saying, but I do agree that there should be a structure in place absolutely to do everything that we can to incentivize marriage and to incentivize those strong families. And so I'm glad that you explained it because I think a lot of people

were running with that headline. Go ahead. It's not just incentivized. I want to empower married people. Because they've been disempowered. Firstly, everything that the government comes up with is how can we make it easier on the irresponsible? And I'm just, Mary. people, if they had the power, they just wouldn't allow that. And so I believe in miracles. I really do. And you're right. Like in this environment, how could you ever get that?

But it's going to take a miracle to fix how far we fall. And, you know, so one of the miracles I'm praying for is take away my right to vote, take away all these individual rights to vote. Let's go back. It used to exist. One man, you had to own. a little property or land or whatever he represented the family.

In this day and age, I'd be like, okay, Allie, you and your husband, y'all can decide who votes. But there's a vote for family. And then I'd probably even give a little extra voting power to marry couples with kids. Every time you

got another kid, you probably get a little bit one in a quarter vote, one and a half vote, one point seven. And the next thing you know you've got enough kids, you got two votes. Yeah. Let them decide. I mean, it is absolutely possible for it to be too easy to vote in a country. And it is too easy to vote in the United States. I mean, you don't even have to be a citizen in all cases. Like in some local elections in some states, you don't even have to be a citizen.

And so you have representation without taxation in some cases, which is absolutely ridiculous. We have some of the loosest and craziest laws when it comes to voting. And the very people who say that they care about democracy or the people who say that protecting democracy means absolutely anyone can vote no matter what. Even if you believe in a pure democracy, that's not what democracy means. In order to protect democracy, you have to protect citizenship. And of course, we live in a representative democracy, which isn't a pure democracy, which is even further reason to try to protect it. I mean, I know you're not allowed to have any sort of like tests that someone has to pass in order to vote. But it seems to me like it would make sense that you should have to be able to pass a basic civics test, like a high school civic. test in order to vote. If you don't know anything about your country, how many states there are, who the president is of the United States, if you have no vested interest, like you said, property owning whatsoever, like I don't know. I think that there should be parameters. And we can have a debate and discussion about what those parameters should be. But people who actually

care about freedom and fair representation should also care about the parameters surrounding that representation. So I guess we'll end on that as an ongoing debate. And I agree with you that there are miracles that have to be done in order to preserve our country and to preserve the family. So thank you for the work that you're doing to help do that. Again, fearless army roll call.com. Everyone go out, check out Jason's show, especially those P. Diddy episodes if you want to deep dive on all of that. Anything else you want to say, Jason? Thank you so much for having me, Allie. I've already endorsed your pit bull argument. So,

Ali, you're awesome, and I'm honored to be on your show. You know, you and Lauren Chin inspire me every day. It's what people think I'm sexist. I'm not. I just, there's just certain women that I want everybody to be like you.

And if they were, I'd never complain. Thanks, Jason. Thanks. Thanks. I appreciate it. Well, have a great show today and have a great rest of your week. Thank you.