Retronauts - 581: Holiday Special 2023 - Pac-Man Christmas Album
Episode Date: December 25, 2023The holidays are here once again, which means its time for all you listeners to take your thirteenth trip to Parts Unknown for yet another exploration of a Yuletide-related video game creation. And th...is time around, we're examining the Pac-Man Christmas Album: a collection of holiday songs and sketches that very little to do with Pac-Man, but everything to do with hurting. So remember who you are right now, because the following 90 minutes will change you as Bob Mackey, Henry Gilbert, and Diamond Feit thoroughly pore over this musical atrocity. Apologies in advance for ruining Christmas. Retronauts is a completely fan-funded operation. To support the show, and get two full-length exclusive episodes every month, as well as access to 50+ previous bonus episodes, please visit the official Retronauts Patreon at patreon.com/retronauts.
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Winter tide, winter tide, all the country now is white, steam comes out of nose and mouth, all the birds went to a night, all the country now is white, steam comes out of nose and mouth, all the birds went to a bird,
Hello and welcome once again to another Retronaut's Holiday special
recorded at our Patreon-supported cabin in parts unknown.
It's hard to believe that it's the 13th time we've gathered together like this.
And even harder to believe that to date,
no visitor has brought me a gift
outside of 90 minutes of free podcasting labor,
which I treasure dearly.
But darn it, sometimes on Christmas you just want to tear the wrapping paper
off a bot object and an absolute frenzy.
So after the unpleasantness with regular Santa Claus last year,
I've taken the liberty of writing a letter to Canadian Santa Claus.
Yep, they've got their own customs and money and everything up here.
It's pretty crazy if you think about it.
And thanks to my new home country's many socialized bookhouses or libraries,
I've thoroughly researched Canada's bizarre and freakish customs.
So I'm fully prepared for a visit from Old St. Gord.
When he arrives in his Dodge Charger pulled by three moose and one elk,
he'll be happy to see I've laid out all the expected Canadian Santa Claus treats.
A six-pack of Labat Blue, gently cooling by the fire.
His choice of ketchup chips or all-dressed chips, a chafing dish filled to the brim with low-sodium poutine.
And if he wants to rest his weary old bones, I prepared a ceremonial beanbag chair and placed it in front of a TV playing a constant loop of the 1987 Canada Cup.
That's hockey or stick puck, as it's known up here.
Thanks to the gradual decline in social norms and the general state of world politics, I've been an especially good boy this year.
So I know that when Canadian Santa sees the friendly, hey there, bud, the message I spelled out.
out in the snow with Timbits, he'll respond in kind and make all of my Christmas dreams
come true.
Ah, but before that, it's time to make a few Christmases much worse.
You know, just to balance things out.
I'm not proud of what I'm about to do, but it's all for the sake of holiday equilibrium.
Oh, look who it is.
Come on in, both of you.
Hello.
Hi.
Hello, yes, thank you for coming.
Of course, shake yourselves off, shake the snow off, and please introduce yourselves.
Who is the frequent visitor to the Retronauts Holiday Cabin?
Who is in front of me right now in this cozy little abode?
Hello, Bob.
It's me, Henry Gilbert, a fan of holidays and video games, one and all.
And who else is here?
First-time visitor to the cabin.
Welcome here.
Yes, Happy Hanuk, everybody.
By the way, Bob, I wasn't sure.
is three meters a big enough menorah for the cabin?
How high the ceiling is here?
The clearance is pretty high.
I add an extra foot every year just in case.
So, you know, it's always been a holiday cabin,
although this is the first time we're celebrating more than Christmas,
so I'm glad I made it all inclusive.
Yes.
Well, I'm sure if you've got the space of it, then we can light all these candles
and, you know, the spark shouldn't cause any flames.
It won't be a fire hazard.
I've been drinking a lot, though, so there's a lot of fumes in the air.
There's a reason I've been drinking,
and I'll tell you all that soon.
But yes, Diamond, thanks for coming out.
I know it's a trip for both of you to make it all the way out here.
Diamond, I know you had to catch a 13-hour flight.
So the weather's terrible.
You're going to be here for less than 90 minutes, per my rules.
So I really appreciate this.
I know you have a family, and they probably miss you, but, you know, it's all for podcasts.
We decided that this is our first family.
Everything else comes afterwards.
And that's the oath that we take.
It don't work out.
As long as I just bring home some souvenirs, maybe some putteen or something, it'll be fine.
Yes, you can find just a freestanding Poutine deposits.
It just hit the ground hard enough.
It'll come springing out.
So that's just living in Canada.
So, yeah, I want to kick things off here.
We're doing another holiday episode, as usual.
So this is our 13th gathering at the Retronauts Holiday Cabin in Parts Unknown.
Wow.
And at this point, I must confess that the barrel has been thoroughly scraped when it comes to generating Christmas-based video game content.
But I will say that today, I feel.
found a real doozy. I'm not sure
where we're going to go from here. I feel
like this is a cry for help
because I am kind of stumped on future topics
but doing a cursory
search I found one thing that I
had never seen before in my life
and I know
with Henry I have looked at similar things
but the quality
of this makes me ache for
the seemingly mediocre quality of the
other similar things and that
is the Pac-Man Christmas
album from 1982. That is the
subject matter for our
podcast and now I wanted to
surprise both of you with this had you ever
heard of this before in your lives
the name of the album is
just Pac-Man Christmas album the V
is not even there so that you can
the amount of effort is apparent up front
no yeah I
despite it being the same age as me
and I am a big
Pac-Man aficionado
no I have never
never heard of this Pac-Man album
before even in all of my like
hate listening to things in the past as a very ironically online teen or 20 something or even 30 something
who also had to write about video games before and make fun of things in all of those cases
never had I heard of this album and how about you diamond any awareness of this Pac-Man album
there are more popular Pac-Man albums or songs rather but this one is still fairly obscure
yeah actually that's why I started looking it up because I'm one
familiar with Pac-Man fever and I was curious if this came out earlier or later it sounds like
this came out after that so maybe they decided oh well there's already been a precedent for
Pac-Man music so we should just make more Pac-Man music except we won't make anything clever
I'm assuming actually they're yeah I think they thought there's still some milk left in this
musical Pac-Man cow or whatever metaphor you want to use so yeah in the past Henry and I have
done episodes about albums like Pokemon Christmas Bash one of my favorite Christmas specials that
we did. Unexpectedly fun
album. Also, other less fun
Pokemon albums like To Be a Master
and Totally Pokemon. Again,
this episode should be no different. A musical
tour of this album, although
the quality is very, very
low, very amateurish.
And, you know, in my curse research
of who has written about this? I found maybe two
articles because honestly, it's not
worth looking at, and that's where I come in.
I find these things and make an
hour's worth of entertainment out of them.
And that's a service I do for the
listener. So I want to know we're all old people in this, uh, in this room. We're all over 40,
unfortunately. And I want to know from all of you, uh, how are you of the age to have experience
records? And by that I mean little vinyl discs you put on a rotating platform, a needle is
placed on that. And then somehow through witchcraft, I believe, music comes out of a speaker. And now I'm
not talking about going down to your local, uh, I don't know, Best Buy and getting like the
$60 Willco vinyl or the $60
Pixies remaster. I'm talking about
when that's all there was.
Oh, absolutely not for me.
Not one record in your life, Henry.
No, well, as an adult now,
I've actually purchased several records in the last five years,
mainly for display purposes,
collector's purposes. Like just recently,
I flew down to Los Angeles
to see Rebecca Sugar had an art exhibition
at a place called Gallery Nucleus
where she was also selling her new EP
and it was like oh it's a limited pressing of it
I was like all right I'll buy this
I may never ever play it
because I have no device with which to play it
but yeah also like my parents
my dad I don't think is ever
recreationally listened to music ever
and my and my mom
only had cassette tapes
but yeah my dad like
doesn't give a shit about music like at all
So no, nobody had had, I don't think there was a vinyl album in our home my entire life.
I'm, I'm impressed and surprised.
Diamond, how about you?
Did you grow up with records or were your record purchaser at any point in your life?
I never bought the records myself, but absolutely, we had a lot of records around.
Like, my boomer parents were big into the Beatles.
We had a lot of Beatle albums.
And I was, you know, I was already old enough to, like, want things in the early 80s.
So, like, we had the, we had the Thriller album, of course.
And, you know, a couple of years later, when Weird Al became big,
it's like, oh, I got a Weird Al album, that sounds harder to say than it should be.
But, and I remember I had a, like, a child-sized, I don't, I'm not big on the lingo,
but, like, I had a child-sized record player, which I think back in the 90s,
already, like, 25 years ago, Smashing Pumpkins, like, recreated that with their, one of their
CDs.
They had, like, a little, like, box that it came in.
It tried to look like an old, like, record, like a record player box or a record album box.
So I had, like, a child-sized record player.
and we would occasionally get like child-sized records
that would be like story books or audio from movies
or just like little things like that.
So I was definitely, yeah, my music listening
and basically audio experience was only records for a few years
and then tapes came around and tapes were like the big new thing.
Like, oh, wow, now I can get, you know, a Walkman
and go take music with me in the car
when we go on a long road trip.
So I had a similar journey in that as a kid,
Adults were listening to cassettes, but I had a little kid record player.
I think even Big Bird was on it as a future.
You opened it up.
It was like a little suitcase.
And I had the smaller records, I believe they're called 45s.
And there were a lot of, you know, kids music.
And, you know, when there was nothing on TV because there were three channels and the internet didn't exist, you could say, oh, I can make everyone sing faster.
And that'll kill three minutes because you had like the little dial that could turn up the speed on the record.
So that's just what we did in the past.
but actually my experience with records connects with what's going on here
because this album comes from the label Kid Stuff Records
and because this came from an era in which records were huge
so of course records for kids were going to be part of that
and Kid Stuff existed from roughly 1977 and 1987 and I had quite a number of these
because by the time my mom was buying these for me it was after the company
was defunct. And as a single working mother, these were less than a dollar, I have to assume.
Just, you know, in clearance bins and just easy entertainment for the kids.
Man, I think the closest I had to, the actual, like, musical tape, probably Weird Al was the first, like, cassette I had.
But the things I got as a little kid were the, the Disney read-along storybook type things.
But again, those were on cassette.
We never had any record.
If you want to count how the things like how a talking elf toy talks when you'd pull on the string,
that might have had an LP inside of it, vinyl technology for him to talk.
So if that counts, then I had that on final elf talking.
If Toy Story 4 is to be believed, that's how they work.
So yes, Kid Stuff Records, located in Hollywood, Florida.
They license popular properties and produce full-length original LPs,
as well as shorter read-along records
that were meant to accompany a picture book
and the latter is what I was familiar with as a kid
because kid stuff, they scooped up a lot of licenses
for their dirty deeds
which includes things like Care Bears
My Little Pony, Star Wars, Barbie,
Strawberry Shortcake, Donkey Kong and dozens more
and that includes Pac-Man and I definitely had a few of these
like I said because by the time I was getting them
and they were all in clearance
and I definitely had a few of the Pac-Man ones
including Pac-Man Run for Fun and Pac-Man Picnic
because if you go online,
some amazing people have,
I don't know what the terminology is,
recorded these records or found a way to get them online
and it's a great resource to see what this world was like
because they're all very cheesy,
they're all very silly,
and they're all very amateurish
because the companies licensing these properties
were not paying attention yet.
Well, I mean, I would guess
with, well, you might get in this, but
back then, like this, with a Japanese
game like this, you're licensing
it from the American company that
licensed the Japanese game. And so
it's like three levels of
nobody caring about
any kind of brand
consistency. Yeah,
I mean, they cared as much about
like Pac-Man bubble gum as they did about
these records. Like, is the product
killing anyone? No, we don't care.
just give us the money give us like 30% of what you earn and that's fine we're not
we're not considering uh the brand consistency the lore uh the story bible
we just want you to sell a record with pacman on it or gum or a board game or underwear
it doesn't matter this is what's going on at this point in merchandising and again
please look up these records online on youtube they're just so fun and uh the ones that
are the read-along storybook ones are usually about nine minutes long so you don't have
suffer through a lot of it if you're curious as to
what is the retelling of the empire
strikes back in about 20 pages
they'll let you know so
unfortunately despite how prolific
this company was they've been gone for about
35 years and
because of that no one has bothered
following up on them and there's not
much information about them outside
of a Wikipedia article which thankfully
at least list all of
the releases I think that they've
done there could be more but it's a fairly
comprehensive Wikipedia article but this is
been very hard to find
because nobody values this stuff
it was pretty ubiquitous
in terms of like
you know junkie kids music
and nobody really wanted to know how it was made
and now all of these men are
either in their 90s or dead
the people behind these records
and no and I mean
well it's been a hot topic this last month or so
too about how
you know lots of stuff online
is not as well
researched anyway
Yes, unfortunately, I couldn't find an existing YouTube video and just recite what they said word for word.
You've got the lighting valve, though.
You're all set.
All he needs a turtleneck.
Yes, I have red lighting.
I need blue lighting on one side.
And, yes, the turtleneck would help as well as unflattering glasses.
That'd be nice, too.
If you add the blue to it, though, you'd be co-opting bisexual lighting as a straight man.
And I wouldn't appreciate that.
That's true.
That's true. I would be stealing valor.
And I do not do that.
So I was looking into at least who are these people behind Kid Stuff Records?
just to provide some sort of historical context
about what this was, where it came from.
So the main guy behind kid stuff is a guy named Bob McAllister.
He was a children's entertainer.
He was the host of a syndicated kid show called Wonderrama way before our time.
And he passed away somewhat young in 1998.
So he is the main force behind kid stuff.
And then the second guy, his name is Artie Kaplan.
He seems to be alive.
He's almost 90.
he was a very prolific session musician of his era,
which is where you'll find a lot of the people that do that kind of work,
do this kind of work as well.
And the third guy, Dick Mullen, is nowhere to be found,
mostly because he shares the name with a disco-elisium character,
which just sucks up all of the search results.
So that's where I am with Dick Mullen.
Don't know who he is, don't know where he came from.
But these are the three guys behind Kid Stuff.
That's interesting.
A session musician, I mean, that's the type of guy who's going to get, if you need to maximize the use of your studio time and pump out some stuff quick, like, I would bet all these were like one-take albums of kids' music.
Well, the fact that they make mistakes and mispronounce words lets me know there were no other takes.
Oh, no.
Okay.
So that's how it's a one-take album.
You said carbirds instead of cupboards?
Should we do it again?
No, no, keep going.
We rented the studio for an hour
That's all we're getting
You'll see, you'll see
So I was looking it up
So discogs thankfully
If what they say is true
These are the people behind it
So before we get to discogs
You look at the back of this album
And it says all songs copyright
1982 Gabriel Amanda
Music in Audio Illusions Publishing
And I'm guessing
Gabriel Amanda music was just
One of several
You know musical production houses
that Kid Stuff contracted to create their records.
And according to Discogs, Gabriel Amanda only existed for a few years
and only for the sake of making Kid Stuff albums.
So maybe it was just some people formed an LLC or something
and then they sold some songs to Kid Stuff and that was that.
I don't know the story behind them because, again,
these are very hard truths to find.
And I could not find anything about Audio Illusions Publishing
except for their connections to this kind of stuff.
If I were to make a wild guess that I wonder if that has something to do with how registering songs for copyright have to be done by some other group and they created an LLC that has to register to copyright a song for songwriting right purposes through that company instead of another one.
Maybe that's the...
Yeah, I mean, this could be a phantom company. You're correct.
But this all comes from discogs and I trust them and the people.
at that site because they're all crazy
and they know what they're talking about.
So digging deeper, we see
two credited musicians on this album.
We have Dana Walden
and Patrick McBride.
So Dana Walden at least
seems to have some musical claim to fame
as the keyboard player for the band
Champagne, not the drink
but the city in Illinois.
That's the name of the bands.
Wait, what? Yes. And when I play a clip
of one of their songs, you will recognize it. I think
if you've heard enough 70s music, you might
know what this is. So, uh, their hit, 1981 song was called, How About Us? And if you look up
the video on YouTube, I believe you can see Dana Walden somewhere in there. But here's a little
clip of that song. It'll be very familiar to you if you're used to what I are now considered
oldies. Some people are made for each other. Some people can love one another for life.
How about us?
There you go.
So I can just see your mom and dad slow dancing to this, not mine, but your mom and dad.
To me, that's very strong, like, you know, instant coffee commercial energy, you know?
Yes.
Like, let's sit down.
Let's make something and read the paper and just relax.
That's the kind of music my dad heard and then turned off the radio and said, let's sit in silence.
Love.
So, yeah, that's Dana Walden.
And, again, keyboard player for the band Champagne.
How about us was their big hit?
They were around up until, I believe, the early 90s.
And I think he had a real, like, dusting and polishing mixing boards portion of his career
because Dana Walden also was a producer on a lot of things,
a lot of various non-performing roles on different albums throughout the 1980s.
So it was more than just champagne for Dana Walden, but I don't know, alive or dead, not sure.
You let me know.
And another person on this album is Patrick McBride, and almost all of his credits are on Kid Stuff, Pac-Man albums.
and I kind of get the feeling he's the one
doing almost all the voices on here
I'm not sure it could be Dana
but it really is just one guy
even doing the voice of a woman
and a baby
I see man is this
I wonder I'm waiting to hear this guy
is he just a local kids entertainer
that they found
who's like you can play all the guys in this
I don't think entertainer was anywhere
near his resume
that word
once you hear
what's going on here. I don't know where they found
this guy. There was no bar to clear in terms of
quality. I mean, if you look at Pokemon Christmas Bash,
it's very silly, it's very low effort, but these are
seasoned voice actors who had just done a lot of TV.
They knew what they were doing. Not the case
here. The voices you'll hear on this album are voices that we can all do
ourselves, and we'll probably be doing them throughout the podcast.
It's that easy. I think, you know, you can really,
in the different than time, the
The Gen Xers who end up making the cheap cash-ins, I feel like they at least remember hearing something crappy when they were a kid and they think to themselves, I may not be getting paid well, but I can do a little better than that.
Or also maybe more people know how to record albums.
So there's at least a little wider range of choices you have than just like the one studio in the state that can record your thing.
Yeah, I mean, I feel a complete disdain for the source material here more than anything we've covered before
To the point where they almost ignore it completely and Pac-Man is just the guy with a weird voice
And yeah, there's no real Pac-Man elements
I mean, we'll get to it, but I'm just astounded by the lack of Pac-Man content
There's very little meat on this gym mat for this Christmas special
And I apologize in advance
So we're going to get into the album now. I have a lot of clubs as usual
So to start things off, I want to say half this album
has what I would call unfinished demo
energy to me. So I don't feel like
Kid Stuff was looking for quality, but the
idea in my head is these two songwriters
handed over their demos. Kid
Stuff was like, great, we love it.
Here's your check for $200 and they were like
sure, and they kind of quietly
high-five each other and move on to their next job.
But those songs feel like
they were mailed in. Please hire
real singers to do these songs. Please
add some real instruments. Kid Stuff just
ran with the demos. The other
half of the album has a real songs we
couldn't sell to anyone else energy to them
meaning these are not songs sung by
Pac-Man characters and they're not about them
they could be just given to any band
for their cashed-in Christmas
album so we have
a mix of both of these worlds
here which I find really fascinating
because it's a very inconsistent album I don't
really like any of these songs but it really
is just peaks and valleys when it comes
to quality and I guess they
spaced out the peaks and valleys so maybe they
knew what they were working with.
Interesting, man.
Yeah, I mean, I look at the cover art for this.
And, yeah, it also feels very first drafty to me, too.
The cover art is the best stuff.
It's on model, and it depicts the PAC people as they should be.
When you listen to how they're living, what they're doing here,
if I get this album to someone who didn't know what Pac-Man was,
they just assume he was a normal guy with a weird name.
And that he happens to know ghosts, I guess.
So I want to get into the album
And we start off this album
And we hear the sound of jingle bells
So we're getting into the Christmas spirit here
We hear some Christmassy synths rather
And we see
We hear an actual child say May We Christmas
Because somebody knew a kid
They dragged them in
And you'll see the album will end the same way as well
So this kid says May we Christmas
The giggles go on for a very long time
And then we hear our humble narrator
who explains to us the meaning of Christmas
in our very first clip here.
Christmas is that most special of times.
The lazy fun of summer has long faded
and been replaced by the crisp excitement
of snowball fights, ice skating, and sleigh rides.
Children all over the world are especially good during this time
because they know that Santa Claus is watching them very, very closely.
And the children in Packville are no different.
As a matter of fact, I can think,
of nowhere else where the celebrations
are so elaborate, the decorations
so colorful, and the
people so happy as they are
in Pac-ville.
So there's our narrator.
Did he say Pac-U-Lan? What?
Is he like Dracula?
No, I thought
I heard Pac-Lan, but I thought he said
the Children of Pac-U-Lan.
Like, where are we? I don't know.
Oh, I thought you were trying to take a stab at his accent
because, like, the children of Pac-Land
are no different.
It's just it's a weird
I think he's trying to do a British accent
But it's not quite right
So it kind of sounds like a more stately Peter Griffin
Yeah there's the
It definitely seems like a guy who like watched a local
Performance of a of a Christmas carol
And that's this is kind of like the setting the scene
But it's also like text is is faux Dickensian
And just I mean yeah that
And to set the time for Packville
I mean this is before the video game at Pac-Lac
came out, so maybe they didn't have
the word yet, but he said
Packville at the end, but you're right, I was
I guess he said Pac-Land, but
it also sounded like Pac-Eulahs or something. Yeah, yeah.
No, no. He said, guys, I listen
to this a lot before this recording.
He says, and the children of Pac-Land
are no different. So, he's
talking about the children of Pac-Land.
So, like
with Pokemon Christmas Bash, a lot
of this is, we have about 200 Christmas
words. We're going to use all of them.
And we have to remind you, you're into Christmas, you bought a Christmas doll, but here's why Christmas is special.
We kind of know it.
You don't need to get us on board immediately.
But what you need to know about this world so far is that Christmas exists and that Packville is doing it better than us.
And also, Packville is a city within Pac-Land where Pac-Man lives, I assume.
So the cartoon did exist at this point.
We have that.
We have the lore behind that.
It's all ignored.
None of the voice actors appear here.
this is coming off of that very successful run.
I think it's ending around this time because
this is the same year that
Christmas comes to Pac-land will air on
television. And we covered that
I dare say like eight years
ago, something like that on retro-30s.
Yes. That's how
I mark the time it's passing.
Just which Christmas special have I covered?
Yeah, actually, this
the description of Packaville
being so colorful and in love
with Christmas is in stark
contrast to them
not even knowing who Santa Claus
is when he crash lands in Pac-Land
in the Hanna-Barbera cartoon.
Yes, they had to be taught about
the miracle of Christmas, but without all the
religion stuff. Yes. You know what, Henry,
maybe it's a prime directive kind of situation where Santa
shows up and all of a sudden they've imitated
the visitors'
culture and now PAC people can't
get enough Christmas. They're hungry for it.
So this is
the year after that where
Christmas fever is really attacked to the
is replaced Pac-Man fever
with Christmas fever.
And he goes on to say that
oh, all the department stores are
stuffed with toys of every kind
from bikes to trains to electronic
video games. And
yes, he's dropping in references to
the things you would rather
have for Christmas instead of this. I wonder if any
kids got this. Mom
gives it over saying, I know
you like Pac-Man and I think you'll like this.
And it's not the 2,600 version of Pac-Man.
It's not anything of
a similar quality it's this album
which also who wants to get a Christmas
album on December 25th like it's like
but it's over I don't want to listen to songs
about Christmas anymore
we have we have 12 hours get to
listening you can listen to this album like
26 times in that time frame
and I suggest you do that
so we get this this intro
out of the way and there's a brief
pause and then what sounds like the intro to the
next song but instead of actually singing
the narrator is just kind of doing this
Jack Skellington talks
singing. Thankfully, he's not the singer, but
he's like, the smell of fresh-baked
cookies mixes with the fragrance of
Christmas trees to produce a
holiday perfume. And then
he explains how this is all part of the Magic
of Christmas, and this leads into
our very first song of the album, The Magic
of Christmas. The Magic
of Christmas is you and
me. There's mistled fall
holly and Christmas trees.
Swimming and raining
and silver bells.
I love
Beasance, greetings, and holiday singing,
but a magic of Christmas is you and me.
So, no Pac-Man content so far,
but you get a gist of how all of these songs go,
and I kind of will use the same joke over and over,
because it's just pulling from the Christmas word bank
because the singer's like,
I love presents and snowmen and sleds and cookies and ribbons and angels.
Just every, just pull them all down.
We have 500 more words to go
But you don't know anything about Pac-Man yet
And that's the important thing
Yeah
There's a hint of something clever
With the you and me bit
Which I think maybe that can go somewhere
You can build it something else
But otherwise it's just yeah
Let's just list off things that we know
That might be around us right now
Maybe even in the studios
They're recording it
Like it's really
It's going nowhere
It's got nothing
There's no puns
And I even like making pack puns
Like there's not even
No puns
Like give me at least a pun
No?
There's not Pac-Man, so Pac-Man is not said once in this song, in the full song, Bob.
Yeah, and there's nothing about, like, Christmas is a maze we must navigate, and the dots are our friends or something.
It is just, this is one of the songs they couldn't sell to anyone else songs.
This feels like a very half-ass attempt at a new Christmas standard.
I mean, it feels like something you'd hear on one of those, like, podcasts for improvised singing, and it really is just a list of, like, the,
things you see in front of you or you're just
and you're lucky that tree rhymes
with me so you can say
is you and me and it's also like such
wannabe carpenters like
it's very very very very
bad imitation of carpenters
I don't know who the singer is but
we get what I think is a verse here
so the singer it's
basically a list because she goes
icicle shining skating and sliding
candy canes and toy trains
and it just again
it's just more of the Christmas vocabulary
and then we just go back to the refrain again
these songs are very very repetitive
which is why I've clipped like two clips per song
and then with verse two
it's just another list of Christmas thing
so this is just
a very very low effort
Christmas vocabulary list
but I have a bit more
of the magic of Christmas here
for both of you
Red and green stockings
Christmas tree flockies
popcorn balls and deck the halls there's nothing more fun but the magic of Christmas is me and you
wow yes see she started with you and me but she ended with me and you that's as creative as things get here
there it is there's a twist I also love that like I really thought okay there's got to be something else here just like
something to do just silence for like
a whole like line of a music sheet and then but it's me and you the end that line just said figure
out later and later never came i feel like they could have at least said like fall la la la la la la and then
something like filled the void with something yeah any kind of nonsense word a diamond sorry
i don't want to express too much ignorance here of christmas culture but has anyone in this
virtual room ever like made a popcorn ball like that's
seems like something you would make like that's like a that's like a 1950s icon to me like I don't know like you know like the toy trains like yeah I had some toy trains when I was a kid but they were already like you know a past kind of a past concept you know I definitely have threaded popcorn once or twice but that really was like a not a family tradition but more of like hey this is the thing you see in old movies why don't we try that but an actual like a popcorn ball that you then like lacquer with with caramel or whatever.
never know. I've never done that. Never experienced that. We had real candy by the time I had teeth.
And also, I did, I did do this popcorn string. And I think it was because my grandma born in 1928 had done that at some point in her life.
And, you know, forgive me. I know, I know we're overthinking this thing that was clearly churned out in like an afternoon. But it's like, you're going to say popcorn ball. You're going to, you're going to invoke a round imagery and not go with any of the round objects, including Pacman himself or the things that he eats. It's like, come on.
Yeah, no mention of the fruit or the pretzel or the key or anything like that.
And, you know, I was like, I'm this deep in the song upon doing research and I immediately regret picking this album because we get what I feel is a very long outro.
We all know how songs used to have very long outos for the sake of, you know, radio play, the DJ can talk over them.
The DJ can turn it down whenever they want.
I think that's what's happening.
But at the end of like a very long 30 second outro, in quotes, it picks up again with a repeated verse.
So, again, very little meat on this gym.
and we're in for a lot of trouble here on this podcast.
So get ready to set sail because there's about eight more songs left.
Oh, sorry, seven.
Holy shit, man.
And I mean, maybe it's like it has to be a certain amount of time to fit onto the wax or the vital.
I don't know.
But boy, to just have just like, well, also this musically is not a good song either.
So why would you want to luxuriate in the music than hear just like, you know, more of like,
rhyming of like Frosty the Snowman with
me and you or like
Noel some other thing
you see you know what they're better writers than me I cannot think of
something to rhyme Frosty the Snowman with there
Pac-Man I mean a lot
Yeah
Pac-Man yeah I mean
At some point on this album they rhyme giving
With Thanksgiving so that's
that's a little of the same level
But a lot of these songs I find odd because I feel like this is
a children's album and a lot of these songs are romantic
Christmas songs where it's a woman saying
Our Love Together is what makes Christmas magical
And a lot of these songs are about you know
Giving kisses and you know
Celebrating special times with with a specific loved one
Not appropriate for this kid's album
And I'll only say this once but
The Great Podcast We Hate Movies calls this variety of song
We Might be fucking on Christmas
The Pokemon album did that too
With Misty and Ash and I didn't like that
Oh, yeah, even they had one of those
I forgot about that.
So yes, a lot of time has been killed.
Pac-Man, nowhere to be found.
Please help.
So we get our outro finally
and then we get some welcome Pac-Man content.
So we hear a bunch of kids saying,
Merry Christmas, Pac-Man,
and finally, our character speaks,
and he doesn't just speak, he rhymes.
And this is what they decide Pac-Man
should sound like for an entire album.
You know, Miss Pac-Man,
I just love this time of the year.
Everyone is so happy and cheerful
And outside it's so pretty and peaceful
The springtime has flowers and soft falling rain
Summer has sunny days for swimming and playing games
The autumn means back to school and meeting new friends
But the winter means snowflakes and frozen lakes
And Christmas once again
And that's all we hear before we start hearing snowflakes and frozen lakes
but that is the Pac-Man voice
And I can tell he's doing all the pack characters
Because they're not doing a lot of audio editing on this
And this guy seems like a heavy smoker
Not as much as the voice of Pac-Man from the cartoon
But when I'm listening to this all here is
That's right, Miss Pac-Man
We're going to have a fun Christmas
You can just hear the desperate gasps of air
That vocal effect
That is the
That is like the little alien
the Starship Enterprise
when they land on a new planet
they find some little kid
and that's when the kid talks to them
and like all in meanwhile
the viewer at home was like
get away from that thing
I don't want to talk to that thing
what the hell is this
way to just
saccharin
and weirdly Midwestern
because I hear this character talking
and he goes
Pac-Man
that's what I hear
so the Pac-Man
it's Pac-Man
it's Pac-Man
I again I must
I get more respect
for Hannah Barbera
their version
around the same time
because they just did the Hanna-Barbera thing
I'm saying like, look, he's Fred Flintstone.
We'll just do Fred Flintstone again, except it's that.
He's like, I got to go eat some ghosts.
Exactly.
Yeah.
But meanwhile, this, and hey, at least, well, seemingly,
this avoids the accidental slur that the Hanna-Barbera-Pak Man cartoon had.
Yeah, it is very weird to hear Ms.
Pac-Man, rather, call Pac-Man.
man by that name. It really takes you out of
things 40 years later.
It's a diamond seems confused by
this. Well, if you were
to call Pac-Man an affectionate
term with a Y at the end of it.
Yeah, yeah, I'm doing the math of my
head. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. I guess that's more of a
British slang, but still, yeah, I'm not, okay.
It's still, it's still very
odd. Yeah. So yes,
that is what Pac-Man sounds like, and then we
get our new song, Snowflakes
and Frozen Lakes. It's very
hard to make out this female singer, but
I think it's supposed to be Ms. Pac-Man.
I'll let you decide.
Here's a bit of this song.
And the dream comes true
Yeah, this is what I call one of the unfinished demo songs
Where this was sent in, they're thinking
You'll get some real people to sing this, right?
And that was not on the agenda.
This is hard to make out some of the lyrics, especially
It's supposed to be a female voice,
but it is just the pitched up Pac-Man singer.
And again, a very loving and romantic song
Ms. Pac-Man is thinking about getting a kiss from Pac-Man.
I know.
Did she say fire?
She said, fire, right?
She said, like, light of fire.
Yes.
Yeah, well, okay, so, but they did call something pack cakes, right?
So that was something to describe something in a pack style, right?
Maybe you heard that.
Maybe it's what they said.
This song is almost unintelligible.
Okay.
I mean, I still, I can't stand to that they started the song with him.
The first song already said, well, you know what times aren't.
like Christmas. Summer, spring, fall. But now
it's time to talk about the winter. And this time again, he starts with
like, you know, the other times of the year, this is like, we know what times this
isn't. Yes. Yeah, exactly. The narrator's like, summer is for the
playing of baseball. And then later, Pac-Man says, you know, Miss Pac-Man,
summer is for baseball and spring is for picnics. And it goes
on and on. Not a lot of ideas here at the table.
but no that song though like literally i can't tell what is being sung in parts of it it's like
yeah nothing it feels also weirdly educational where if anyone said hey why is this song so lazy
they could be like we're trying to teach kids about seasons here okay we have an honorable purpose
um so that that's my justification if i was blamed for writing this there is like sometimes
the the bar is so low and you're just so worn down by this album that sometimes there
are good and interesting parts in it
compared to the rest. I like this weird
calypso part of this song. Let me know if you
agree. It's a silver-dustid
moon that leads you
through the world
as you're gazing out
a frosted window
hang.
It's a clear delight
this starry night, this
Christmas scene.
Yes, even
Ebenezer will
undergo with you.
Yeah, I do like, I guess, the three-part harmonies,
and it's weird, the things that get into your head.
Since I started doing research on this and listening to this a bunch of times,
I have had the lyric, even Ebenezer will undergo a change in my head.
And I was almost done with that book.
Thanks a lot, guys.
He's got a cocoon waiting for him.
now I you know yeah maybe it's that everything before this has been so crummy but that actually at the very least that ripped off yacht rock of the era nice enough like you're like oh that this has a nice little tune to it it reminds me of the pinia collata song yes thank you I was searching for the term but it is yacht rock it just pleasant and lilting and empty but you know up until that point where it's just the sort of diddling synthesizers in the background you know you hit on it earlier bob I feel like this is the kind of music that you're
could go behind like a three two one contact special about like you know uh you know the life the
life uh coming to coming together and like a do of a drop of water somewhere like this is a little
do do do like let's let's talk about cells let's talk about you know uh paramecium or whatever but
then yeah then he gets some harmonies oh this is actually building into a song okay it's a
it was it was harsh and dirge like and then these singers kind of come in to rescue us
these are the real singers they hired so yeah this song keeps continuing
as you would expect.
There's a bit of like an interlude
where Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-Man
kind of flirt with each other
and then the singers sing
and Pac-Man says something like,
who threw that snowball?
And at the end, Pac-Man,
I've been working on my Pac-Man, by the way.
I hope you all enjoy it.
At the end, Pac-Man,
and he's wholesome to the point of being creepy.
The song ends with him saying,
And it's all thanks to Snowflakes and Frozen Lakes and you.
And I think he's talking to his,
wife. But now we're not the you in the story here. He's not. Yeah, I think we're being left out of it. We're the voyeurs, if anything. So the cover of this album, they've got the baby in there. So I'm hoping it comes in later, but like, oh, we're going to slam right into Pack Baby's song. Okay. Well, these, so this is a married couple on like date night then here. I think so, but the baby's here. The baby is present. And I don't know, like, in the.
the um in the cartoon i think it was pack baby in the cartoon but there's also there's pac man
junior there's baby pac man and there's also pack baby it's uh again yes pacman junior was a game
yeah baby pacman was a game that's the pinball slash arcade game yeah and then pack baby is the
hannah barbara character that i think they're running with here a voice by russie taylor by
the way in one of her earliest rules that's right yeah the though this thing yeah the the the
Pack, the confused world of Pac-Man families, and also has only become more confused in the years since because Namco doesn't own all of them.
And so Miss Pac-Man doesn't appear in things these days.
We have like Pac-Man and what, Pac-Girlfriend now or something?
I think it's Pac-Mama or something.
Yeah.
Pack-partner.
Pack-partner.
So, yes, you asked if, you asked if Pac-Baby is here, and he really dominates the middle of this album.
Here is Pac Baby
Pac-Man, just look at Pac-Baby
Where cutie keeps staring at the Christmas tree
Probably daydreaming about all the presents
That Santa will bring on Christmas morning
Sorry, I thought Pac-Baby would talk in that.
Sorry, I thought Pac-Baby would talk in that
they're going for like a little drummer boy thing
but I this this song is so dirge like
it's just a very down tempo dirge
with this man singing in a baby's voice
we'll hear that soon but just the
it's almost like a video game song of the era
so so okay so after
well this is like an actual story
these are not clipped out songs
that could be heard in any order these are done
in order so they just had their
their dream about like ice skating together
eating and drinking cider or whatever
they're like oh and also our baby
must be dreaming of presence right now
you can't see this but our baby is here
our baby's here and it won't stop staring at the tree
I wonder what that baby's thinking
well we don't have to ask that question because the baby
just tells us in this next song oh boy
morning comes quickly
slipper slipper shon sneaking around
Mama and Daddy
Still asleep
Don't make a sound
I want to see
What's under the tree
Do you remember
That Christmas wishes you wrote on your list
I really hope that everyone's there
Not one is missed
I want to see
What's under my tree
Extra long clip
You should see the faces of Henry and Diamond
Everybody
Sheer horror and pain
And yes
The lyric I wrote
It's a baby
You can see what's under the tree
You're the baby
It's the best part of the tree
You can see is the bottom
What's going on?
I'm angry
It's more like
What's in the presence
But my lyric I wrote
Where he's like
Not One is missed
My fall-up lyric
would have been i would be pissed
that's the lyric i wrote see i should be doing this
nobody's hiring me to write these uh albums from 40 years ago
also i'm going by what's on the cover of the album and again this is
traditional like bay pack baby baby pac man like it or pack baby is this
it's a tiny baby like it's one like it doesn't know who santa even is and
can't list presence like and you're not waking up early to you can't leave your crib
like he can't leave it if he woke up at 3 a.m. as
probably most babies do,
he can't actually go down and check the tree anyway.
This is a free-range baby that has full capacity of the human language.
I guess this was 19-802.
Yeah.
Yeah, kids weren't even in car seats in 1982 yet.
Yes, yeah.
They were just not to crawl around open fires.
Sorry, go ahead.
The thing I was thinking about with Miss Pac-Man was in Pac-Man world repack,
it's Pac-Mom.
That is the character who has replaced Miss Pac-Man.
man in the game a pack mom see uh miz pacman was supposed to be a feminist statement now she's just
defined by her uh you know status as a as a parent and as a as a wife yeah i know i think it's a
big downgrade no i see they've uh damco's gone very traditionalist family values these days
she became a trad wife and we are not for that so um yes this is an adult man singing in a
baby voice i assume they thought like i'll just do this for the demo and you'll probably like
hire a kid or a woman to, no, not
going to happen. This is just
put on wax forever and then upload it
to YouTube. So
now we get a different chuck of this song
and it really made me ask, is this a joke?
But the important thing is
Baby Pac-Man is really trying
to kiss Santa's butt with this world
peace idea. So here is like
the bridge of Under the Tree
which I think you'll both enjoy.
Last year I yet
for toys.
This year it's different.
I have one single wish
That Santa Claus
Could fill the world
With love
And with kisses
There you go
So
He wants
So instead of toys
Baby
Pack baby
Want Santa Claus to fill the world
With love and with kisses
And if you pay attention
To the rhyming scheme
Different is rhymed with kisses
Oh yeah
You're right
Something different
with love and kisses.
Wow.
Well, perhaps this is in the...
It definitely wants to be a, you know,
all I want for Christmas is my two front teeth kind of thing
or a hippopotamus for Christmas.
Like, fun kid Christmas songs.
Obviously, this is horrible, like the worst song we've heard so far.
Sorry, I was just thinking of the, like,
Nobody don't like Christmas.
The Mouth song from the Christmas Bash.
Now that's a good song.
Yes, that song rules, and I think about it every year.
Yeah, I mean, I guess it's supposed to, everything is just very wholesome.
And I guess he's trying to appeal to Santa's non-toy qualities, but I feel like he still wants something out of this Pack Baby.
So Pack Baby, Pac Baby talks and has object permanence and knows all these things with the world, but also the people of Pac-Land, I guess, know about other cultures.
Is there a Middle East in Pac-land that's currently in crisis in the early 80s?
Like, what?
Is there a Ron Rock War?
As far as I know, they're exactly like us, except they celebrate Christmas better.
And I guess there is strife in the pack worlds.
And then Pack Baby is saying no more.
And I would guess you would have included it if it was there, Bob.
But even in the other parts, there's no PAC specifics of any kind with Baby Pack.
a pack baby right absolutely not
absolutely not
so yeah more time
killing with the
bap ba ba pa pa
that goes on for a while
and I know both of you
you really wanted to hear more
a pack baby after under the tree
I know I did
so up next we have an interlude
that features both pack baby
and his parents and they're certainly not
being voiced by the same person
let's hear it right now
we've forgotten to do
an extra special good deed
for Christmas
Why, Pac Baby, what a wonderful thought.
He's right, Pac-Man, we really should do something special for someone.
You're both right.
Christmas is a time of giving and goodwill.
But what should we do?
Hey, why don't we invite Speedy, Dashful, Shadow, and Pokey to celebrate Christmas with us?
But, Pac-Baby, they do nothing but chase us and our friends every chance they get.
Well, Pac-Man, maybe this is the chance we've needed to win the course over as friends.
So there you have it.
Referencing actual gameplay elements, finally.
There was not a mention of a power pellet or anything, a maze.
But now we have the antagonists in what they like to do.
Okay, so you've got one person doing three characters the same time.
At no point did I ever guess right which voice it was actually doing.
Yeah, I guess the baby pack, sorry, Pac baby voice we heard during the song.
is different than the Pack Baby voice we hear during the sketch.
Yeah, but also it's pitched up, but pitched up almost exactly the same as Miss Pac-Man.
That's why, I mean, I'll give them this, that they know that you can't tell who they are,
or maybe they think five-year-olds listening to this won't follow along.
So that's why every character says, that's right, Pac-Man, maybe we should do this.
Look, Pac-Baby's doing this.
like they're letting you know who just
spoke or who's about to speak
yes and I feel like
if you think we're being too hard on this
all of us as kids and this is why we're
podcasters if something
violated canon if something wasn't like the thing
it was based on we would get upset and I have to
imagine the kid the gen Xers
who got this were furious
about the lack of pack content
maybe just maybe if I stare at the cover
long enough it's like I'm playing the game
no yeah I think
they got used to like you know the
I feel like the Pac-Man cereal, which I did have that as a kid,
that had much more close devotion to the lore than this album does.
Yeah, even the picture books that are part of the same line,
they include Pac-Man-style music.
There are basically mazes that you do in the picture book
while Pac-Man-style music plays.
So they're a little more on brand.
Not this one, though, a diamond.
I'll give them credit.
By invoking the name of the ghosts,
they're at least promising me something.
Oh, wait, we're actually going to talk about,
how the Pacmen,
pack people and the ghosts interact
like on a day-to-day level
because apparently this is like
they have an ongoing feud
so are they going to try to make up
or they're going to call like a Christmas truce
like I'm invested now
and it does feel though
a banditory like they were told
make sure you mention every character name
here they are you can really sense
the registered trademark symbol
after them saying you know speedy bashful
pokey and whatever you can really sense
this was an edict not like let's invite
the ghosts over, all four of them.
And then moving on, they really had to
work in all the names. So
I want everyone to hear. I assume
this was the
part where the album went to the other
side, but no, this is what finishes
out the album. I wanted everyone to hear just how abrupt
this transition is before the end of the album.
Now we can
really enjoy the spirit of Christmas.
There, the holes with boughs of
Ali. La La La La La La.
just slams right into that.
So, yes, they do some public domain stuff on this album.
We have Duck the Halls and something else.
But in the tradition of this album, it is just the most joyless dirge like,
deck the halls.
And you just start thump, thump, thump in the background.
Wow.
And, well, you know, I don't know who these people are.
I don't know who's singing.
It just feels like they just drove their rig down to an elementary school and said,
hey, your fourth grade busy, bring them in.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I would, I totally.
believe that they're like uh you make the kids but also they're like but this is august or this
september they with you wanted the kids to sing christmas songs now like yeah we got to print this
tomorrow we got a box of pacman cereal you can all split it uh so yeah that so i thought like
the transition between the sketch and the song was uh you know the album's ending time to flip it over
no it slams into we wish you merry christmas and then you turn the album over for the rest of it
We're only halfway through.
Oh.
And we are rescued a bit because as far as songs go on this album, this one is my favorite.
And it is the Pac-Man-Free Old-Fashion Christmas.
And this has what I call a real cigarette floating in a beer-can energy to it.
Let's hear a bit of old-fashioned Christmas.
Give me an old-fashioned Christmas.
Just like Grandma used to give.
Give me an old-fashioned Christmas and I'll give you an old-fashioned kiss.
The workplaces.
Oh.
Remember the bread that she baked all day.
Remember the words that she used to say.
This day is made for love and little girls and boys.
Remember the ride in the horse drawn sled
The warm fires on the quilted bits
So yeah
Old Fashion Christmas again like you said Hennergy
I'm sorry Yacht Rock Energy
I'm reading your Twitter name out loud
But now
So to get things started here
I just want to say I like this song
Because just a different flavor compared to the rest
I love the jug band bass
And can you believe the Oak Ridge Boys
Said no to this song
exactly no yes this absolutely feels like a song dusted off of the shelf that this song could have been written in any time 20 years before the release of this album and reused but also like the i mean it still falls into the thing of the other songs which is just a listing of christmas things like these have notes do you remember this thing and this thing too and also this yeah yeah and oh go ahead diamond i'm also
I'm really put off by this.
Maybe I'm misreading it.
But I feel like they open with this thing.
They're like, oh, remember old time Christmas?
Like, grandma used to give.
Like, okay.
But then we're talking about boys and girls and kisses.
And like, wait, wait.
So who's, what kind of love?
Are we talking about platonic love?
We talk about, like, let's get it all in love.
Like, I feel like there's way too many loves coming together.
Like, I don't want to.
It feels, sorry, it feels hastily rewritten.
It felt like it was originally a Christmas love song.
Yeah.
But then it comes out.
like give me an old-fashioned Christmas
just like grandma used to give
and I'll give you an old-fashioned kiss
so number one you're telling your partner
act like my grandma maybe I'll kiss you
yeah and then in the
bridge or whatever it's like
these days were made for love
and then it's like oh shit
and little girls and boys
they just had to remind themselves like oh this is also
for kids so it's made for love
but also the kids can be part of this I guess
it's pretty broad
you don't want to cross those wires
is in your mistletoe song and just like
and also the happiness of children's faces
in between kissing under mistle
but I yeah I also
to get extra pedantic like
I that's not like
you don't give a Christmas
like grandma doesn't give a Christmas
that's not how the sentence would work that bug me too
that bug me too like give me
a old fashioned Christmas like that's a general sort of statement
like oh give me you know
give me a thick dame over these
waves you know like you're just talking
into like the universe but that's like no like grandma used to give what is that that makes no sense
yeah it did i mean it does fit in with modern slang like when you like if you watch a lot of drag
race you could walk into a room look at a christmas tree and be like that is giving christmas
yes yes yeah grandma is totally in that outfit grandma is totally giving us christmas today man
she's serving christmas yeah not going to say anything else slaying i guess
Slaying.
Oh, hey, that's good.
You're more clever than the writers of this album.
We started off at that level.
We've risen far above it.
So, yeah, I like this song, by the way, but no Pac-Man content.
We go back to the refrain.
And, you know, credit, where credit is due.
You can listen to this for yourself.
But there is a very nice instrumental solo that incorporates a lot of Christmas carols.
Although, when they start quoting White Christmas,
they quickly back out of it knowing,
oh, no, we have to pay for this if we play more than a few notes.
So I do enjoy that part.
It's very pleasant.
And I can see, like, again, the Oak Ridge Boys doing this
or some sort of chicken fried, bearded country band of the era doing this song.
Like you said, Bob, it's giving VFW Hall energy.
Yes, it really is.
And, yeah, there's no pack grandma at this point.
I will say that the kiss noise is revolting.
Oh, yeah.
I don't like hearing that.
So, yeah, that is old-fashioned Christmas.
One more thing on old-fashioned Christmas, too.
Sorry, that this song could be on any album anywhere.
But what is insane to me is that they put it on like the,
this is one for children and two based on one of the newest things around a video game.
So it's like, why are you bringing in the idea of old-fashioned Christmas
in this newfangled cutting-edge video game?
album. Yeah, you want the kids at home playing the bad port of Pac-Man on their TVs. You don't want
anything old-fashioned, sleigh-rides, any of that stuff. You're interfering with potential
profits for the Pac-Man brand. So, yes, enough about that. The narrative picks up again what
little there is, and we see the return of a very important character on this album.
As you know, Pac-Man and his family have decided to invite the gang of ghosts, speedy, bashful,
shadow and pokey to their
Christmas dinner. But
from the sounds of the ghosts huddled
in their horrible hideout,
it doesn't seem as if they
care for Christmas one little
bit. I miss this guy.
It doesn't seem
that they miss Christmas. So
narrator returns.
Just some Pac-Man facts. I have to be
educational too for the sake of this being a retronauts episode.
So speedy, bashful,
shadow, and pokey are the names here.
But we know them best as
Inky, Blinky, Pinky, and Clyde,
but both names are represented on the Pac-Man track screen.
For whatever reason, this album uses their Christian names
instead of their nicknames.
I don't know why.
Interesting.
Yeah, and this album does not use the original character Sue,
which was added to the Pac-Man cartoon
because all of the ghosts were guys.
And they're like, we need like a cigarettey smurfette type
to really spice things up here.
And that's where Sue came from.
Yes, exactly.
Wow, I forgot that.
Yeah, so this is a dude patrol.
of ghosties here
Yeah, and I was looking more into
Thank you to the Pac-Man Wiki for this because I didn't know a lot about
the history of the ghosts, but Pinky would flip
genders pretty regularly until the 2000s
when Pinky was identified as a female ghost.
So, and they all have
different names in Japanese that reflect their colors
except for the orange one, which is
like stupid or slow poke or dim wit or whatever you want to call it, but
inky, blinky, pinky, and Clyde are also the nickname
in Japanese, I believe.
It's like, I think every character has a name, but they also have a descriptor.
Yes, yes.
It's like, Speedy is the descriptor, but, yeah, it's a mess here.
It's very strange to have the narrator describe them, yeah, describe their habits when they should just be calling them their names.
Like, I was waiting for him to say Clyde, say Clyde.
He didn't say Clyde.
Wait, there's no Clyde?
What's going on here?
But also, while we're talking about the narrator, yeah, the narrator has to make sure, oh, the ghosts, these
horrible ghosts
because they hate Christmas.
Like, oh God, okay.
And yeah, and I guess in the
in the cartoon they have a boss as well.
They work for a thing and that's not present
here. We don't know, we don't know what their
hideout is. I guess maybe they're trying to talk about the
little box in the middle of the screen.
Yeah, I guess that would be their hideout.
Yeah. Yeah.
So yes, we're going to hear the ghost
plot next and I have to assure everybody
this is real and I did not record these voices
myself. So these are all the
Ghost from Pac-Man.
Boy, I hate Christmas time.
All the pet people are home snug in their houses with their families.
There's no one around for us to chase.
Yeah, what a drag! It's so boring!
I hate Christmas, too, Bashful!
Who is it?
What do you want, then? Go away!
Sing and telegram for the ghost.
Oh, God.
Christmas Day is still.
Tomorrow, no need to spend it alone.
Use four ghosts are invited to spend Christmas at our home.
Signed, uh, the Pac-Man.
Hey, what a break.
Once we get into Pac-Man's house,
pow, the chase is on.
Guys, for once, we might have an interesting Christmas.
So there they are.
And I have to, like, as I found myself alone during the holidays,
I have started saying,
Hey, I hate Christmas.
It's really bad.
It's an awful voice,
and it sounds just maybe like 15% horny.
Yes, yeah.
Well, I couldn't believe a singing telegram shows up in the middle of that.
It's like, this already is stretching this guy's acting ability quite far with four different ghosts in here.
It's like, oh, also a singing telegram shows up, too, to give them this message.
Was that supposed to be four ghost voices?
I only heard two real voices.
It was two ghosts in a mail-in-minute because it's like,
I'm a ghost.
I'm a ghost, too.
And I'm a telegram guy.
See, it's that easy.
You could do it all yourself.
So, yeah, via research for this album,
I found out that there is a very small group of devoted fans of the song,
Take the Fruit and Scoot,
which is performed by Bashful,
who is the funniest voice on this album,
unintentionally so.
So this song was on the Kid Stuff record.
The Amazing Adventures of Pac-Man,
and I think we should hear it
to just hear more of Bashful in his beautiful voice.
You mean all the fruit?
Yeah, on the fruit.
Take all the cherries from the Packville stores.
We'll take all the strawberries, apples, and course.
Take all the strawberries, apples, and course.
We'll take the fruit, we'll take the fruit and scoot.
We'll take all the fruit.
Peaches, the plums and the pears
We'll take them all till the
Carper's our bear
We'll take the bananas and even the grape
All Pac-Man's got to be in bad
shape
We'll take the fruit
We'll take the fruit
We'll take the fruit
We'll take the fruit
We'll take the fruit and scoot
There you have it
And again I have found myself going
It takes the bananas
Like just walking around
Singing like Bashful
It's great.
And even the grapes.
Yes.
I, okay, I hate, okay, I hate part of this because I hate the energy that's being channeled here.
But I also like, I'm laughing, so I can't, you know what I mean?
Like, I can't say mad at it because it is, it is making me laugh.
I can't deny that.
Yeah.
But also like it is, it is objectively hideous.
And it feels like they went to the grocery store.
It's like, okay, just go down the, go to the line.
because obviously not all those fruits are in the pack i don't have the list of farming but not all those
fruits are in the packman game but there's like let's get some fruit and like yeah they came with
one rhyme take the fruit and scoot and then that's it we take the fruit take the fruit take the fruit
take the fruit take the fruit take the fruit and scoot in grapes and a pretzel and a key
but and yet so at with all the other stuff on you're comparing to that this at least takes the
idea of that these guys
don't like Pac-Man and
that Fruit is part of a
Pac-Man stage.
And so by incorporating those two
things, that song is
much more respectful of Pac-Man
Canon than the Christmas album.
Yeah, it's
you know, it's
inaccurate in terms of what
it's trying to say about
how fruit works in the Pac-Man world,
but it's at least referencing the fruit. Like, Pac-Man
doesn't need the fruit. It's a bonus. It gets you
more points. Oh, and the fruit just go
right by a ghost like they don't care yeah it's not in a store yeah and uh this is i mean this
is one of the songs that has the them like the character says something wrong because uh bash was like
take them into the carbirds are bare it's like no it's it's it's cupboards or a cupboards not carbirds
that's true yes i yeah that uh you'd warned me that that that guy would be mispronouncing that
And I'm totally, I even still, I'm like, how do you say it wrong like that?
You know what's happened here?
I think, I think what's happened here.
They're actually making an effort in the song to make the song about Pac-Man things.
But their effort is so haphazard and lazy.
It's like, you know, I'm using my whole ass.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's, no, this is, I appreciate they're actually, they actually spent a few minutes on this.
But what they came up with sucks.
So I'm, I'm like, I'm almost irked.
But I'm still laughing.
Like, you know, like, that's why I'm, that's why I'm so moved by this one because, like, I can, I can feel them pushing this and they, they camp with crap.
Well, along with walking around the house, you're like, me, I'm also been walking around saying, take the fruit and scoot.
It's just, that's in my head as well.
And I hope it is in your head, too, this Christmas season.
So, after, okay, take the fruit and scoot, not on this album.
I just wanted to highlight it briefly.
So the ghosts, they're, they're plotting.
They're coming up with this terrifying plot to chase Pac-Man around his house.
house, and then Bashful goes on to say, you know, I don't know the big deal about Christmas
Day. It's just like any other day. And then this is when we roll into the Unforgettable Christmas
song, some days are more important, which reminds me a lot of what I mentioned before. Nobody
Don't Like Christmas from the Pokemon Christmas Bash album, except this song is not as good. That
song rules, but regardless, both songs are about the sheer supremacy of Christmas compared
to all other holidays. Let's hear a bit of some days are more important.
There is the hunted Easter for the eggs. There is the turkey at Thanksgiving. But there is nothing like that December day that shines because of giving.
Boo. Some days like Christmas with all of its adornment for little boys and little girls some days.
are more important
some days are more important
I know how Henry
booed at the beginning
but it really is the third time
they're like
summer is for this
and spring is for this
and birthdays
are for the presents
that are unwrapped
I mean
or not
or what are they
they're ornaments
they said ornaments
adornments?
Adornments is right. Adornments
It rhymes with important
Which is also like
That's not as bad as giving and Thanksgiving
But it also feels very poor
Yeah and it's like
We talked about it earlier
But the fact that there's a third iteration of
Here is how the holidays are different
It's just like you didn't go back and check your work
You wrote this album as you were going
And just immediately recorded it
They didn't care but still
There's the third iteration
It's like I know that summer is different
I'm 20 minutes into this album, please.
No, I know.
It's like, it's like filler upon filler because let me make a comparison here in the,
in the Twas the night before Christmas, Frank and Bass special,
which has eight billion times more effort into it than this.
It does, though, still have a song of like, here's all the other holidays,
but it, no, they can't compare.
And it's like you're watching like, here's Easter or St. Patrick's Day,
all these things, but Christmas is the best.
they'd only do that once
they know it's
a filler but you can only get away with it once
but this one
three times now already
and this album is not over
and it's just about Christmas supremacy
too like just about like
I also don't like this
the general feeling of
oh do you not even believe in Christmas
well you are wrong mister
screw you to those who don't celebrate
I've already lost the plot here
So this is a ghost song?
Are they seen to the ghosts?
Yeah, the narrator, because Bashel's like,
I think every day sucks.
And the narrator's like,
summer is for baseball and football.
No, it falls for football.
Excuse me.
I have to collect my notes here.
So the narrator is,
the narrator is basically explaining to the ghosts and therefore us why Christmas is good.
Because, yeah, I, now I want to know.
We're learning a lesson on behalf of the ghosts, I think, Diamond.
But like, now I want to know, do the ghosts hate other holidays?
Are they evil because they hate all holidays?
Or they just hate Christmas?
Are they?
A bashful, I mean, you can check the record, but Bashwell's like, every day is the same day.
And then the narrator says, shut up, ghost, here's another song.
These ghosts, they've been on the other side, so they know this is a crock.
They know all this.
I died 30 years ago.
I want to see my family.
Every day's awful.
No.
It's getting dark.
Yeah, Bashel's going to become a Retronaut's character.
So, yes, like a lot of these songs, they find the refrain and they really hammer it home
because we get the repetitive like, do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do, and then the woman singing
some days are more important over and over and over.
I think 85% of this song is that.
But let's pick it up at the end where the narrator simply repeats an earlier verse from this song.
Blinkety, blink sing the twinkling lights.
Ah, there'll be Christmas dreams tonight.
For little boys and little girls, this day is most important.
Some days are more important.
There you have it.
Yes, we understand Christmas is good.
It's the fifth song in the album that's telling us that.
Blinkety Blink's the twink, no, no, no.
Blinkety blink sing the twinkling lights.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It actually happened.
That's so bad.
Again, it's like, when I see this cover, I think of just, it's the Pac-Man characters at home singing Christmas songs.
Like, that's all they have to do.
It's Christmas is, it's Christmas at home with the Pac-Man family.
But even, it's like, okay, we're going to hear about the ghosts.
This is a perfect time for a ghost song.
Instead, it's like they cut away from the ghost to just sing about how nice Christmas is again.
I mean, we heard Take the Fruit and Scoot.
It could have been the best song on the album
If all the ghosts joined in
If they just put this song on there a second time
But called it
Take the Christmas Fruit in Scoot
And just adds the word Christmas to it
I would be fine
It would be better than this
Yeah
They missed their chance
40 years ago
So that song ends
And then finally the narrative
Pickbacks
It picks back up again rather
And the ghosts arrive
At Pac-Man's place
It's us
The ghost
Here to spend a wonderful Christmas with you.
Well, come in. Come in.
Wow, look at all that yummy food.
Hey, hey, yeah, come here, come here, Shadow Bashful, Poki.
What do you say, we start chasing them now, huh?
Oh, well, I don't know.
Why don't we wait until after we eat, huh, Speedy?
Yeah, all right, yeah, good idea, good idea.
Let's eat first, all right, uh-huh.
Ghosts, before we enjoy our Christmas dinner, we have a few little presents for you.
So, yeah, I don't know.
I feel like we're not hearing one of the ghosts.
I might have misspoken, but I feel like the ghost with the funniest voice is bashful.
So I know we're hearing Speedy and maybe Shadow.
I'm not sure.
I think that was Shadow in the first time we heard him.
Yeah, I think so.
But, well, so, okay, so Miss Pac-Man invited them over so they'd stop chasing them, I guess.
Which, again, it doesn't seem like if somebody chases you all the time, don't invite them to your home.
I'm going to say that.
It's all about like there is no follow through here.
It's just like the ghost want to chase.
And I was reading about the Pac-Man cartoon where I think with the second season, they cut out more of the chomping because it was just considered too violent and maybe kids were biting their little brothers or sisters or vice versa.
Imitatable act.
Yeah.
It really is.
Though, you know, yeah, it's actually, again, in the much better Hannah-Barbara special, which is hardly like high art.
But in that one, Pac-Man actually does, like, get almost killed by the ghosts.
The ghosts are like, oh, Pac-Man, you're pretty weak right now.
And they all just, like, bite him until he's, like, half dead in the snow.
Yeah, there were stakes here.
Here, it just, I mean, I like how what a push-over Pac-Man is earlier, because Pac-Baby's like, I'm not going to do the voice, but Pac-baby's like, hey, Dad.
Why don't we invite the ghosts over?
And he's like,
They always try to kill us.
I don't know.
And then Ms. Pac-Man just jumps in.
It's like, we'll do it.
So not thought through at all.
Yes, exactly.
Whip-crack noise.
I'm not going to invite my murderers over just because you make a sound.
But though,
Speedy is not very good at being in charge either.
He's like, okay, hey, they just opened the door.
Let's chase him.
I'm like, well, we should eat first.
Yeah, I think all of these ghosts are basically slimer-style creatures
Because they're all obsessed with food
You know, Bastro gets to make the rules there, though
He's like, we should eat first
And everybody agrees with him
And then take a break before chasing him
So I'm getting stuck here again
So the ghosts clearly, they know about food
And they obviously desire food, which is they're hungry
But they just want to chase them for what?
Are they like, what's the ghost
goal here
why do they chase pack people
do they want to eat them too
but they don't say eat they just say chase
I think they envy the living
they have hunger but it can never be
sated
that's what's happening here
they want their body
they want their meat their meat mix
yes yes it's just like the guy
the ghost would just he would eat a pie
and just say
I eat and I eat I feel nothing
they are the ghosts
of condemn murderers though
that's part of the pack man more
The Land of Hunger Ghosts.
Yes, exactly.
Oh, God.
So, yes, let's hear a bit more of the narrative as the ghosts learn a lesson about Christmas through capitalism.
Let's hear it.
Bashful, here's a pair of peek-a-boo pajamas.
Shucks.
Speedy.
For you, we have a brand-new pair of high-speed sniggers.
Nice.
Poki, here's something you might be able to use.
A scooter so that you can keep up with the other ghost.
In Shadow, for you, a collection of Alfred Hitchpac's favorite ghost stories.
Gosh, no one ever gave us any presents before.
You pack people are really pretty nice.
All we ever really wanted ghosts is to be friends again.
So I think we're not hearing from Shadow and Pokey.
I think Bashful and Speedy are the only ones.
Yeah.
And it is weird where, where I...
I'm detecting, uh, there's some implied, uh, hatred where he's like, you people are nice.
Yeah. Friends again.
Friends again.
Something happened.
I guess, I guess there is, uh, they're building a backstory here that was never in place.
But I really want a Pac-Man to be like, hey, listen, we have names.
Yeah.
You pack people aren't so bad.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Uh, but it's also, uh, it's also, Ms. Pac-Man saying, uh, I got you things that will help you kill
my husband's faster.
Yeah.
Though, yeah, I also have to say, okay,
Alfred Hitchpac's favorite ghost stories,
like, Albert Hitchcock, I mean, you know,
he hosted, he hosted dark stories of like,
more like true crime stories.
They were not, I mean,
ghost stories weren't really there.
And he wasn't known for like ghost stories
in the films he directed Alfred Hitchcock.
If we are to imagine that Alfred Hitchpack
is their version of Alfred Hitchcock.
Okay.
things. First of all, Hitchcock, like, I think just died a couple of years earlier. So obviously
they, like, Hitchcock might be amongst the ghosts themselves by now. But also, why would you
do Hitch Pack instead of Edgar Allan Pack? That's right there, man. Oh, I do like that.
I mean, yeah, I guess because they were, they were still thinking about how that, how that large
man just died, he was fresh in their minds. Also, I feel really bad because, you know,
maybe 20, 30 minutes ago, I said, oh, you couldn't go, you couldn't give us one pun. And here, here's
the pun, and they gave it to me, and it fucking
sucks. It's got to be
the worst pun. Yeah.
So, yeah, when Pac-Man's
like, I ever wanted it was to be
friends again, that's when we slam.
Slam right into Friends again. Let's hear a bit
of this song.
Friends again. Do you
remember when
we used to play all day
and we would
always say
we'd be forever friends?
Oh
Wooo-hoo
Let's be friends again
No
Friends again
First summer turns to fall
No
No
That's when I'm looking back
To my old friends
We get a lesson about the seasons with that song.
It's like, first there is January, and then comes February, and then it's March.
Really, really, I guess, so the fourth time on this album that we are, and I apologize for singing, the fourth time on this album that we are getting a lesson about the seasons, I'm surprised the narrator didn't jump in and say, he's right, you know, first there is summer with grass so green, then there is fall with the chance.
trees and the leaves also yes okay so in the friends again song i also thought they might wouldn't
even mention christmas once but okay so they do mention christmas by like the four like 40 seconds
and like when christmas comes we're friends again yeah and it does it does feel like a lot of the
albums sorry a lot of the music on this album where it was a love song that was hastily rewritten
it's like when we used to play used to be like when we used to kiss
or like we would always say
I don't know
it just feels like
there's like this
this like kind of sexy vibe happening here
that I'm not like
oh Billy stole my fire truck
and I'm going to play this song for him
so we can get over it together
it just feels like it feels like lovers
reconcile
The vibe of this is not Pac-Man trying to like
be a pal of bashful again
like if if I offered this to a friend
I would think they would think like
okay wait you want us to be more than friends
clearly with the spirit of this saw.
You know, sometimes people get upset at us for talking too much about things that are made for children
and we're thinking too hard or we're looking at this too closely.
But if I was a parent, if I was, you know, a boomer parent in the early 80s and I gave this to my kid
and I had to hear this song, these songs more than once, I would just drop kick the goddamn record
player out the window.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I mean.
This is a nightmare.
This is a pure nightmare.
you're correct diamond i mean i had the thought of this being put on uh christmas day christmas morning
perhaps grandpa's there he fought in the battle of the bald he's in his armchair with uh you know a big
whiskey sour he's sitting there he's gritting his teeth when baby pacman song comes on he pulls out
his revolver from his leg holster and he shoots the record player and that's when grandpa the
keys get taken away he doesn't get to live by himself anymore this is ruined
families this album i yeah i again i listen to albums that were released around the same time as a kid
and you know this the the the puppets with john denver even the the sesame street ones like
they had so much more pride in just even if it was just we didn't write a new song we're
singing the 12 days of christmas at least they're having fun with it like each of the muppets has
a define i guess that's what hurts this compared to like a muppet or sesame street thing these
characters have no character
so if you already hear them sing
the 12 days of Christmas
or silver bells or
all the other public domain stuff
it can't be expressed through their
character they're nobody
yeah there's nothing there barely there
in the Hannah-Rabara show as well a diamond
but yeah Henry it's what you're saying
there is nothing there which should be the freedom
to do whatever they want and instead they're just
okay I guess we got a we'll do a voice
like I'll do a voice but there is
also voices they can't sing
There's a void for them to fill
And they're filling it with nothing
They're filling it with the absolute
Least amount of
Of effort and time
And just I guess we'll sing a song
Friends again
So yes I do like to call out
When some effort is made on this album
So I do feel like there was some effort
Put into at least this part of Friends again
There's no better time
Than Christmas time
When the snow is far
This is the time to forget the back
This is the day
That's calling
Us to be fed again
You know
Sorry, when a song on this album has like normal song content
The thing you expect to hear in a song
You're like, oh my God, I remember songs
Yeah, you know what?
Actually that rising
keys up.
I was like, whoa, somebody actually
wrote, but that actually
then made me crash even more in it
when they're like, calling to
be Friends again.
I was like, oh no, we're back.
Do, do, do, do, do, do.
Yeah, so that's Friends Again.
It peters out with a very
long instrumental outro.
I feel like
if you cut those out, this album's like
three minutes, no, five minutes
shorter. Yeah, I mean, these
songs are not going on the radio, but at least
with the outro here, we get
the ghost learning a lesson over
the final notes of friends again.
Hey,
hey, something's here for them.
I feel funny.
Why me too?
I feel good.
Well,
what's a tipping ghost?
You guys have caught on Christmas spirit.
Wow!
We feel wonderful.
What a Christmas.
Yes.
This really has been a special Christmas.
There you have it.
So all the ghosts became joker-fied with just the most mild Christmas gifts.
And they're all freaking out.
And I say, get the baby out of the room.
It's time to ask them to leave.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Those ghosts are fully erect under their sheets right now.
There's no hiding there.
There's no hiding there.
That laughter is not innocent.
No.
No, especially on bashful.
Like, he's the ending.
Yeah.
And also, again, for this ending there, having Pac-Man just be like, that's right.
Like, it's just like, just some energy.
You're Pac-Man.
You're the star.
Yeah.
Oh.
I think maybe I'll go to a maze or maybe not.
I don't know.
Oh, God, man.
Yeah, it's rough.
I mean, we're at the end of the album, thankfully.
So, yes, to give this album some credit, at the end of it, it actually, this last song includes the voice of Pac-Man,
but it's an a cappella version of this song that includes no Pac-Man at all.
Sorry, it includes no instruments at all.
But I do want to play the final moments of this record, just so you can all hear it.
Christmas
That's the final bits of the album
So we go from friends again
Right into we wish you Merry Christmas
Pac-Man is singing
You hear him with the kids
And then we end with the same little girl
Who opens the record
As George Lucas would say
It's like poetry, it rhymes
So some thought was put into this
At least to that extent
or like somebody's kid was in the studio like
bring her in, have her say Merry Christmas.
Yeah, we need oral history.
We need to find that child because they're our age at this point, you know.
So let's get them in there.
I'd say, yeah, this 48-year-old woman who giggled on one Pac-Man album,
where is she?
So, yeah, that is the album.
And I'm going to send you guys off into the wilderness very, very soon.
But before that, I want to hear your final thoughts on this creation.
And I want to know your favorite and least favorite songs on the
the album. And to remind you all, I know you probably
have already wiped it all from your memory, but
the songs are, uh, the magic
of Christmas, snow flakes and frozen
lakes under the tree,
an old-fashioned Christmas, some days are
more important, and friends again.
And the dark horse pick will be,
I'll let you guys choose this one,
uh, take the fruit and scoots will be
included. Oh, well,
all right. I'm going to have to say
old-fashioned Christmas that at least,
you know, it feels the most
like an actual song that at the very
least is about Christmas. I wanted to be in the Christmas spirit. I had hoped that this album
would at least have like, okay, there has to be one song on this that has to be the reason it
exists that will be like called Pac-Man Christmas fever or, you know, the Pac-Man's fever for
Christmas, just like something that at least is about Pac-Man and Christmas that feels like it was
meant to be a pop song. None of these feel that. So the one that feels closest to at the very
least feeling like a song you would hear
on the radio during Christmas time
then I have to go
with old-fashioned Christmas.
The kind that grandma used to give.
She gave it.
And Henry, what about a least favorite song?
I mean, I think
I think it really is the
the one that
the ghosts introduced, no,
the baby, the baby, pack baby song.
Under the tree. Yes,
the tree one. That's the worst.
And Diamond, how about you?
Highlights, low lights, general thoughts on this?
I mean, it's really hard to quantify how I feel about these songs in so much.
It's that I wish all of them could just be, you know, thrown into a dark pit and forgotten.
Like, you know, I know we get returts.
We talk about preserving media and history and how even bad games should be remembered.
But holy shit, I never want to hear this again.
Again, the fruit and scoot song, I have to respect it because they actually thought about what, what do these people actually do?
There's ghosts and this fruit.
Okay, let's have the ghost talk about stealing fruit, even though the ghost don't actually steal the fruit.
So I guess I have to get that some level of credit, but I also, I made me laugh, so I guess that wins, but also like the voices were awful.
But I guess that's not as bad as the baby voice.
So, yeah, the baby voice is actually the worst ever, so.
Yeah, we're all unanimous.
I also least favorite song Under the Tree
Favorite song Old Fashion Christmas
Tied with Take the Fruit and Scoot
And I will say, yeah, under the tree
I never want to hear an adult man
singing a baby voice
Except if it's Baby Sinclair
singing I'm the baby gotta love me
I'm on board
That's the sole exclusion to that role though
I had one last thing I didn't want
I meant to add too is that like
The cover art I've seen
I see that it's been like
Released a couple times with slightly different art
but they all look horrible.
But like the cover art to it to me,
it just reminded me one of my favorite things that I did
when I went to Portland Retro Gaming Expo at Bob's Invite,
which was I got to meet Paul E. Niemeyer,
who was the, he designed the original logo for Mortal Kombat,
but also the logo for Super Pac-Man.
And he was talking about when he designed Super Pac-Man,
he said that there literally were no instructions
on how to draw Pac-Man.
And he's like, well, I guess I'll just use this arcade design as a starting point and go with that.
I guess I'll do that.
Like, how long's his nose?
They're like, we don't know.
Put a cape on a circle.
We don't care.
I guess a Pac-Man is just a Worshack test.
See whatever you want into this.
Visually, musically, psychologically, it doesn't matter.
It's whatever you want him to be.
So thanks to Henry Gilbert and Diamond fights.
I'm going to kick both of you out very soon because Canadian Santa Claus is,
nearly here. And I can't wait for him to show up. But before both of you leave, please plug all of the great things you're a part of. Let's start with Henry. How about you?
You can follow me on Twitter at H-E-N-E-R-E-Y-G.
And yes, I always love doing Retronauts.
Thank you for having me,
and especially for the holiday tradition
that we have done so many times together.
So thank you.
And if you guys like when me and Bob do things together,
you should check out all the cool things we do
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We do our chronological exploration of every episode of The Simpsons.
We are deep into seasons 14 and 4,
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christmas and diamond how about you my my name is diamond fight thank you uh first
Well, thank you very much for inviting me to your holiday cab, and I'm very honored to have this invitation.
You know, in case my joke at the top of the show didn't cue people in, I am Jewish.
And, you know, from time to time, people share with me, you know, Christmas celebrations and holiday spirit.
And I sort of get a sense of, oh, this is what it's like.
That's why people do make all these albums about how Christmas is wonderful.
And maybe I've been a little too harsh about the capitalism and just the overwhelming sort of push of Christmas against me.
that makes me feel, you know, so disgruntled.
But then again, hearing this Christmas album is convinced me that I'm right.
The Christmas fucking sucks.
So, yeah, thank you very much.
If you want to follow me on the internet, look up Fight Club, F-E-I-T, that's my last name, C-L-U-B.
That is the object I would use to crush this record, so no one ever plays it again.
You can get Minora Bob them out.
I would suggest that unlike so many of the great old Christmas songs, this album
lacked any of the amazing
Jewish songwriters who wrote all the best
Christmas carols of them. Yes.
Well, we'll have to come back
when there's the Pac-Man Hanuk album. But until
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Now, please get the hell out.
Well, there you have it.
Another Retronaut's holiday special in the books.
Now, like with all Retronauts episodes,
I only need to encode it on a series of golden discs and shoot it into space.
But that can wait until the new year.
Now, there's just the matter of turning around for a long night of staring at the other wall of the cabin,
and oh my God!
The six-pack of Labat Blue!
5.5 of them have been drunk in his trademark fashion.
Catchup and all dressed chips eaten in equal amounts?
Yes, yes.
Low sodium putine sampled politely and abandoned.
And the beanbag chair.
It's clearly been sad in.
No doubt to watch at least five minutes of John Muckler's expert coaching.
Could it be?
He came.
He really came.
And it looks like there's something for me under the maple tree.
Oh boy.
wonder what it could be.
Okay, only three more layers to go.
Wow, this is thoroughly wrapped.
Okay, I think I'm about to breach the gift.
Wow, my very own copy of the 1983 Rick Moranus Comedy Strange Brew on DVD, and it's
pre-owned!
That means it's already received a lot of love.
And check out these extras.
Animated menus, actor biographies, trailer.
I know it all be filling every corner of my.
My 4K TV with this holiday season.
This is great.
You know, it's pretty silly.
In my letter to Canadian Santa Claus,
my one Canadian Christmas wish was to meet a celebrity.
But, you know, it's not like he can do anything like that.
Uh, come in?
I honestly can't believe what I'm seeing.
Could this actually be?
That's right.
It's me.
Pac-Man.
And what makes Christmas special is Candy Cane?
and Frozen Lanes and you.
Wow, Pac-Man here, celebrating the holidays with me.
But what about your family?
Well, Miss Pac-Man decided to spend this Christmas
and most of the past three years' Christmases
with her friend Jeff,
so I'm here for joy and cheer and laughter.
Well, Pac-Man, I'm about to settle in
and watch this new pre-owned copy of Strange Brew.
Should I whip you up an extra stormy, darken stormy?
Oh, Pac-Man can't drink anymore.
And whenever I'm tempted, I distract myself by teaching others about the seasons.
Winter is for drinks of rump so red, while spring is for IPAs that go to your head.
Summer brings ales both bright and bold, while fall gives us pumpkin beer until that gets old.
Okay, Pac-Man, I'm just going to put on some music.
Why don't you face the other way and just listen quietly?
Sure thing, pal.
Anything to take my mind off family course.
Listen, this whole meeting a celebrity thing is kind of backfired on me, so I'm just going to order him an Uber dog sled.
As for you, have a happy whatever, and a joyous whatever the next year is.
We're going to be.
We're going to be.