Retronauts - Retronauts Micro 58: The Zelda Treasure Jingle Quiz

Episode Date: April 8, 2017

Since weve all got Breath of the Wild on the brain, why not celebrate The Legend of Zeldas most unsung musical moments? On this episode of Retronauts Micro, join Bob Mackey, Chris Antista, Henry Gilbert, and Brett Elston as the crew assembles to put their knowledge of Zeldas famous doo doo doo DOOOO ditty to the test. You know the one were talking about.

This episode is brought to you by Audible, the audiobook service with more than 180,000 titles to choose from. Get a free audiobook and a 30-day trial at audibletrial.com slash game. Hello, everybody, and welcome to a brand new episode of Retronauts Micro, and I swear to God, this time it will be micro. You were treated far too well for far too long with these 45-minute micros, and I'm sick of it. We're going to get this out under 15 minutes. So help me, God, I'm Bob Mackie. Who else is here today? Hey, it's Henry Gilbert.

Hello. And Chris Anteastern. And for precisely 15 minutes, brother. Yes. I'm told. We're removing him from the room after that. that but yes this is a retron's micro thanks to you uh kind patreon donors we were able to bring back micro so these will be two episodes additionally on top of the four uh regular episodes you get

every week so thank you so much for donating month god damn we're not we're not that productive well yeah okay once we hit the uh hundred thousand dollar tier you will get an episode every day and hire interns and robots yes and yeah podcasting robots but uh this episode is brought to you by Chris because he came to me with an idea so you can blame him if it goes wrong I'm just kidding I did I was running on a big high on Breath of the Wild I know I think we all are really yeah I know we don't want to talk about

it too in depth because you guys might be doing that in the future this is a current game too come out so bye yeah I know it feels weird but I just Brett happen to be around and I love I don't have to say the thing you had to keep saying about Breath of the Wild about what it feels like because it's a wonderful way to put what Breath of the Wild is

and which thing the thing about it like just how it makes you feel Zelda 1 comparisons. Oh, well, I mean, the long and short of it is, like, for me, it's, I had this moment where I'm climbing a mountain and blah, blah, blah, but it's like, that game is what your little kid brain told you Zelda 1 was. Yeah. Was this big, mysterious world that you run around, you poke around, you burn everything, you

poke at everything, you're not told exactly where to go or what to do, but in your mind, you are having this grand adventure, despite it being super primitive, basic inputs, you can go four directions, you have two buttons, but in your head, when you're 7, 8, 9, you're having this grand adventure and scaling mountains and going across lakes and Breath of the Wild is I'm actually feeling that exact same way I did when I was seven years old only I am Link crawling up the side of a mountain

that I can see to the curvature of the earth and let's see everything all at once it's like this is what I always wanted to do when the Zelda games got so tube-like that... Or just so wall... I'd say walled off more like... Yeah, like the illusion that Okarina had of this big field which in 97 or 98

was great but it still like is very modular, like this is the high rule field. It is not actually connected to anything. You can see dummy sectors of, well, that's not actually Death Mountain. So it's like a JPEG of the next area in the background. Yeah, yeah. And this is the, and Twilight Princess is just trying to be that again. And Skyward Sword is

I think, you know, it's a great half step in a lot of directions, then a half step back in a lot of directions. But like it has a lot of cool stuff, but it was still didn't stray enough. And then the places it did stray was kind of bizarre. And then Skyward Sword's finally this like, yeah, here we go. This is what... This is those promise of Zelda

one fulfilled in 3D. Yeah, and I feel like and this is really getting kind of off topic but I'm in the same breath I guess but Dark Souls is what Zelda was supposed to be going in 3D and that's to me why Dark Souls struck a chord with so many people

I agree even though people will yell at you if you compare things to Dark Souls I know I know it is a legit comparison you can make sometimes and I want that to be okay we can say Dark Souls sometimes people it's fine of skill based games that don't involve multiplayer I'm not yelling you but I'm saying no you should be able to say this on the air

without being yelled at. No, I agree. There's, there's, I agree that that comparison has made a lot. It's the Dark Souls of Yank, Yank, Yank, it's like, no, it's not. You just haven't played more than six games.

You haven't played a difficult video game. Yeah, but when the comparison is apt, it makes sense. And this is what, to me, when I play Dark Souls, I'm like,

this is what the direction Zelda should have gone. And that's why it struck a chord with so many people because it's that sense of adventure and weirdness. Yeah. And you have to talk to people. You have to,

like, just being online and wikis isn't enough. I need to talk to, human being instant interaction back and forth. What about this? What about this? What did you do? Yeah, and it always feels like there's a new thing to discover. If you go in a different direction, you'll find a new thing and you're like, what's

that? And you want to figure it out. And I think, too, they learned the right lessons from Western games as well. Like the Assassin's Creed has been doing it for a decade now, but just the like, I climbed to the top of a tower and then I filled in a map

with more stuff. Except in this, it's like, okay, you kind of filled in a map. Maybe take a look around, see if you see some shrines from here? We're not filling your map with icons. You find the stuff. Yeah, you find it. And it's not all the same activity as someone was just bringing up in the later on Facebook group where we're kind of why I'm down on like Bethesda

open world games because that is generally like stiff, rigid, you can't see very far and glorified fetch quest. Go here, touch this button, come back to me. And there's like three missions like that I played in a hundred hours of Zelda. So the last thing I'll say is, before

we move on, is that I feel like Zelda, for the while has really showed me how modern game design has ruined my brain in some ways where I was stuck in the tutorial because you have to do these five shrines and one was on top of a mountain and I didn't know that and I saw this mountain that's the last place I have to go but the game wouldn't

let me go there so I didn't try that for two hours and I was like I might as well oh I can keep climbing this mount oh I'm at the top on the mount oh my god the dueling peaks it's like the biggest thing in the game it's like you can touch that within an hour if you wanted to I mean even when I hit the snow territory I was like oh I'll come back here hours later when I have the snow tunic or whatever.

That's what it might be for Retronauts, specifically, like, the most about Zelda 1, where Zelda 1, I didn't have any idea what to do or what order to tackle it in. I was so used to the Zelda formula that, like, I end up traversing the world, and then when I finally do figure out something like, I know that is, I'll go over there. I just didn't have, I didn't have the map, but I knew the location. Right, right. It is a great game. We'll be talking about that more on a later Retronauts, but we're all playing it.

It's great. It's like, I feel like it's been so long since I've been playing. the same game at the same time as everybody I know it's just a great feeling yeah and nobody knows everything yet yeah it's so cool at the time of this recording and I but I wanted to bring it up just to bridge both of them to Breath of the Wild and Zelda won because we're going to have a big old quiz down are you ready about it let's do it I wanted to do it just like playing Breath of the Wild made me think about the fanfares and I wanted to do a Zelda 12 question fanfare quiz uh-huh This one's a gimme

How do we buzz Picking up a sword Yes Or a key item in Zelda one Key item in Zelda one So it's called key item Fanfare or item get fanfare Or I don't know

I tried to find the same theme Across all Zelda games And I would like And I realize getting into this Especially with Brett's going to be on Yay He's going to be able to know The system this is coming from

Within seconds I mean some of this stuff Who knows I think everyone here Play a lot of Zelda You will buzz in with this with the uh your name with your name like i'll just say that the one syllable names will oh yeah sorry damn it you hank hank right writing that down so you got it's the k though

all right so then we just say which name which game it is you will buzz in and say which i should probably get a pen i buzz henry in so he can get it wrong does he lose a point yes if i yell henry no i didn't want to i don't want to tell you how to steal the game already let's see if get this interesting what if i buzz christen and then we have a mario party es reversal of fortune where the biggest loser gets all the points making all this worthless I'm going to do B and B oh that's confusing

but B M. A and Hank Alright so it's time for our Zelda Zelda quiz So you heard this one Zelda one Very familiar right Yes all right

Who's ready for number two Everybody ready? I'm ready All right let me get up my key here Brett is buzzed in Link to the past Oh Elston

Sori Sorry Henry Wind Waker It is Wind Waker It is Henry on the board I couldn't even

detect a difference I beat that game on the HD versions I should hope I remember that But isn't that Isn't that interesting That is a cross time

Across Galaxies What the theme How many years apart That's 03 Eversus 87 Right 86 Oh

All right I just like that brassiness. Yeah, the brass sticks out more now. We're going to move, jump back and forth through time. Not on Mike Link. In a game, I don't want to ruin just yet. Number three.

Bob. Bob. That's Link's Awakening. Bob Mackie, it is Link's Awakening. I played that game probably 30 times. One for BM. Do we want to keep breezing through this? Yeah, I have a point, Chris.

Come on. Do for what? The first one. You didn't get it. You got it wrong. No, he did say that was Zelda One. The example you gave. I said that was, everybody got out.

I thought you were just establishing the. I still buzzed in first You're at Brett the point I'm going to put a Mickey Mantle asterisk next to your name that's fine that's fine As long as there's some question to be had All right so what are we on four Number four? Wait are we on four

No we're on three we're on three Third Zelda item fanfare What Zelda game is this from Oh we did that one Bob that's an awakening I get another point I didn't even chime in the fake time

No we are number we are number four This is confusing for me Okay Brett Brett, Alston buzzing in Zelda 2 You can tell it's all warbly It's all wrong

It is one of the weirdest It sounds like whatever's playing that is being strangled All right who's ready for the next one NDS has a whammy bar Zelda number 5 Henry's buzzing in That's Skyward sort Oh

Bobby Twilight Princess It is Twilight Princess It had to be that Another one for BM. Love getting away with that. Let's try number six, shall we? Henry.

Hey, well, whatever. Akirina. Henry Giblet, that is absolutely Ocarina. You need to credit that one to Henry and not Hank, though. Hank? Let's draw another letter here. You want to keep breezing through it? I had to cut out the beginning of that

because Ocarina is a giant lead-up to its... Well, I can tell with the kind of like the... Like a little ambient back there That was definitely the sound And as far as I know It's the same item fanfare For Majors mask Sounds about right

I believe so To the offhand of the composer Of the original Zolda theme Cochi Kondo I would guess Koji Kondo Yes How dare you Chris I did everything else

Number seven Brett That's a Breath of Wild It is Breath of the Wild That is Breath of the Wild And I couldn't There are two weird item fanfares in Breath of the Wild

and the... I got you the other one. Oh yeah. I love that. Did you just see, I just saw this shared on Reddit I never realized it in each shrine I didn't notice why their hands

were in different positions but they all together lay out the different positions of all four triangles of the triforce. So the top, the sides, and the empty ones. So keep an eye on where those like dudes in the shrines have their fingers pointed. Again, learning something.

something for the first time. Does that imply anything? Like, this is the challenge of wisdom. It just shows their connection. Well, maybe it does have a connection to the challenge. Well, this was low rule, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. And this is where you look if you want to get, what happens if you look here? You get your... Yeah, look at that. You get smacked in the face. Throw a flag on the field

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I just got to go. Bob. Bobby. You play it again. I'm going to think the Skyward Sword. Brett Brett's buzz it in for the steel I think Henry said that

Well I didn't know if he was I didn't know if Chris was I played by the rules or not Okay wait I don't know you just tell us Hank again Link Between Worlds It is Link Between Worlds Wow because I couldn't

Up until Up until this month The best Zelda game in 10 years That was Yeah link between world Was my favorite Zelda the game. I think Breath of the Wild it is now. It's beautiful because that was showing them

breaking their own formula and how fun that could be. They were breaking it within an already defined world but it gave them the freedom to you know. It gave them the guts or the bravery to be like we could break it on the 3D let's break it even more. I mean 3D link between worlds is like the game

have your cake needed to where it's like we get to have a big nostalgia trip but we're also going to like really break the formula. How can you do both of these things? No more getting that boomer. No more getting that boomer rang first. No more going in the order you got to go in. Love it. No more needless items that do one thing in

one dungeon. You have to hold for the rest of your life. Yeah, I love Twilight Princess's Battle Draddle. And also, man, that's like and then just like that twist in it, or the couple twists that are in Link Between Worlds, they're beautiful. Yeah. I love that game. Who's ready for the ninth sound?

Let's do it. All right. Anybody want to buzz in that one? Hank. Hank is Wasn't in? Oracle of Seasons? I think that would be the same as links away. Bob.

Bob. The Minnish Cap. Ooh, sorry. Can you play it again? I don't remember which one it was. It was nine. It does sound like a Game Boy. It does have a Game Boy.

It does it now. That staticy. Jesus. Oh, wait. Oh, wait. My timer's still at running. Man, it wasn't Minish Cap like four. Aren't you already wrong?

I didn't guess yet. Yeah, he has a guest. Four swords? It is not, not four swords. That was going to be my next guess. I was like, oh, it's when you said the GBA thing, I was like, yeah, four swords. I forgot there was a GBA four swords. Number ten.

Number ten. Hank. Hank. Phantom hourglass. It is fine. finally had an hourglass very jaunty Henry taking the lead I didn't even really play that game it's one of the first ones I didn't finish because I hated the ocean dungeon

I loved it oh I spear tracks that's the one I did like spirit tracks a lot number 11 Brett like link to the past right there's too many words ready you're tied up with Henry yeah 4ndo brass section yes and we only got two left oh boy Okay, so let's try this one out. Brett. Brett.

It is Minish Cat. It is Minish Cat. It just sounds like a GBA hiss. Henry, you can tie it up, but you've got to get this one right. And that shit is baked into the sound. That's what I hate, yeah. When you buy an actual Castlevania album, that's the GBA music, that's just in the disc. I wish they would just remastered them with, you know, good samples. Or just the hiss?

And I didn't like the Power Rangers Sega CD game We got banned from YouTube for posting Uh, jeez Briefly, briefly Uh, final 13 Henry, you gotta take this Here we go.

Hmm. Uh Don't get down just because you guessed all the Zeldas already. Bob? Bob! Uh, is that the Winwaker? Ooh, we already had Winwaker. I wasn't sure if there was more than one.

Kept detail notes like I did. I heard that nice like harp trill. Henry Crossbow training Wish I would have thought of that I'm gonna give you a partial credit I think I might know but I'll let Brett guess Brett

Can I hear one more time Alright 12 Is it Skyward Sword It is Skyward Sword The second after I said harp trill I was like oh shit You play a stupid harp in that game it sucks

Too many instruments Too many instruments. You play a harp by moving the thing back and forth. There's nothing to it, folks. Turn down your speakers, because I'm going to play all of them together at once. Oh, my God, no. I'm surrounded by treasure help. Oh, Lord.

Brett's the winner there. Bob, I don't feel like I performed very well, though. Brett wins an all-expenses pay trip to Hyrule. Can I pick which high-rule? You have to go to Zelda 2. Which high-roll would you want to live in? think, well, two is like the most peaceful, right? Oh, birth of the wild dog, going to the woods, don't want to be.

But there's nothing, man. I want to go to a store. I want to go to a shop. You want to go into one of those houses where the ladies heal you? Yeah, exactly. I mean, I do. I definitely don't want to just like, boy, I hope beetle comes to town. Yeah.

Wild, Zelda one and two all have this feeling of like the bad guys already won and now the good guys are are trying to fight back. Yeah. All the others feel more like it's generally peaceful. and the bad guys are coming. And Wind Waker's just like, hey, we're all boned. Actually, things are pretty cool in Minish Cap. Yeah.

That's nice to, I mean, you know, the princess is made of stone. That happens, though. But you also have little pixies helping you, and you don't even know it. And the peakery are just fine. Like, their world's fine, right? Yeah. They're not in imminent danger. Seems pretty cool to be a peekery.

I would agree. So that was Retronauts Micro. We got in at like 20 minutes. It's going to be 30 by the time I'm done talking, though. I don't believe I've ever done that with you, Bob. Yes, it's almost impossible. But thank you so much for listening. I've been your host for this one, Bob Mackey.

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Zelda 1 still isn't yet 30 years old in the U.S., but Zelda 2 turned 30. this year in Japan. BlastCorp just turned 20 and man, like, Supreme Commander just turned 10, a PC game that I recommend God of War II is a decade old. I don't like how things are a decade old that shouldn't be. I think I'd recommend to the

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