Rev Left Radio - Red Hot Take: Election Week in America

Episode Date: November 6, 2020

Breht shares his initial thoughts on the ongoing election and discusses some of its implications.  Outro Music: 'Hot Water Rising' by No Thanks https://no-thanks.bandcamp.com/album/submerger ------ Please Support Rev Left Radio: https://www.patreon.com/RevLeftRadio or make a one time donation: PayPal.me/revleft LEARN MORE ABOUT REV LEFT RADIO: www.revolutionaryleftradio.com

Hello everybody and welcome back to Revolutionary Left Radio. So on today's episode, I'm going to give some of my initial thoughts on the results of the election here in America. But with the full knowledge that this is still a fluid situation, while it looks pretty clear that Biden is going to take this, It's not exactly clear how it'll all play out. It's not exactly clear how much support Trump's desperate and pathetic pleas to stop the count or start the count again or stop here and start over there. How far that'll go with Republicans in Congress with talking heads like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity. I mean, I think people like Rush Limbaugh are doubling down. I was listening to his latest episode yesterday.

And it's pretty clear that at least that segment, of the right-wing conservative media is fully on board with the Trump bullshit about this being some vast conspiracy to strip this away from President Trump. But there are some people in politics who are kind of coming out on the Republican side and saying that's not really true, like Ben Shapiro, for example, is coming out and saying it. But you have people like Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham, I mean, absolute pathetic sycophants who are also going on TV and trying to defend Trump's narcissism and just incompetence and incoherence and desperation on live TV

because they see themselves as needing to shore up their support with that Trump base, which importantly is not going away after Trump loses, and maybe we'll get into that in a bit. So I'm just going to cover a couple initial thoughts as the end of this election fully plays out, knowing that there's still more details to come, knowing that hindsight provides more clarity than in the moment extemporaneous stream of consciousness thinking.

And on our sister podcast Red Menace, we will do an episode once the dust settles, really cultivating our thoughts and pulling out lessons in the wake of what's happening right now. But I figured I jump on here and give a few of my thoughts up front and just to let everybody know where the state of the race is, particularly for those that might not live in the country, might not follow electoral politics as closely as other people might.

What happened was basically what a lot of pundits, a lot of media types, had been saying what happened, which is this red mirage, blue shift trajectory, given the global pandemic, given the dimensions of this election, given that so many mail-in ballots, absentee, early vote ballots, we're going to come in in a lot of states when you need. even start counting them until election night and given the fact that some of those some states you know they're going to be postmarked on election day or the day before and come in a couple days after um election night itself it was going to always going to be sort of a played out dragged out scenario and what the red mirage blue shift idea was was because trump um has demonized

mail-in ballots and because he's downplayed the pandemic his voters were going to likely come out on election night and vote big and most states we're going to count that that you know in real life election day ballot first and then move over to counting their mail-ins and given the fact that just because of how Trump has treated mail-in ballots and just how Trump has treated the pandemic when those mail-in ballots started getting counted we were going to see a big comeback for the Democrats and that's basically what happened so on the first night we saw the map turn increasingly read with Trump, with big major leads in must-win states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. And of course, that started a domino effect on social media, on the left, you know, sort of

preemptively sort of getting pissed and dropping their hot takes, myself included probably, about what this means and what its implications are. But surely and slowly, the mail-in ballots began to be counted in all of those leads that Trump had, that red mirage, right? It started to shift blue. And as I sit here talking right now, Biden has taken over in Georgia. Biden has taken over in Pennsylvania. Biden is, I think, still leading in Nevada. It's been called, multiple places at least, have called Arizona for Biden. And so Trump's pathway to victory is almost non-existent. I mean, there's still some weird shit that could happen, but almost non-existent at this point. So let's go ahead and talk

about some of the implications. The first thing that I do want to talk about, and this point has been made, but it's worth, you know, making it again. American politics is pure spectacle in the DeBordian sense, right? I mean, it is so utterly detached from material conditions, the actual conditions that people live in, that you could have record turnout overall, but also record turnout for Trump, a global pandemic that was handled objectively terribly, a miseration of at least half the fucking country, or at least deep precarity. The recession to come hasn't even fully started yet. I mean, this is going to be years and years of this shit playing out.

And people are still so caught up in the spectacle of American politics and often vote in ways that are just sort of incoherent. And I think a big reason for this is that American politics. politics don't work. American politics don't solve any of our problems. And so when you have a political system that just literally does not and cannot solve any of the major issues of our day, politics gets reduced to merely a vehicle through which to express cultural grievances, through which to express moral values.

It's like an identity thing. I'm on the red team or I'm on the blue team. I believe in this and you believe in guns and abortion and all this all this nonsense right this culture war nonsense when when the political system stops being a meaningful vehicle to actually solve our problems actually address and solve the problems that we all face there's nothing left for it to be other than spectacle other than cultural grievance and that's I think what we're seeing and of course social media the corporate media they play into this 100% and even if you believe and I don't but even if you believed that we're We lived in a democracy or a representative republic. You have to understand the importance of basic education, of basic information. You need an informed and relatively educated population to make informed and relatively educated decisions about their politicians, about who's going to represent them, about just the basic facts of what's going on in society. But neither corporate media nor social media have any vested interest. in truth, in reality, in democracy, they have a vested interest in profit.

And that means instead of informing and demystifying, they inflame, they mystify, they divide, they sensationalize. And you get these echo chambers and these shattered epistemologies of people who can't even agree on the basic facts of the situation. Things like Facebook, things like the corporate media, I mean, these things are actively harmful. And not only that, but even if you. you believe that America was a democracy or aspired to be something like a democracy,

you would have to admit that these institutions undermine democracy, and not only do we not have democracy in my opinion, because of the information flows, because of the way people are taught history in this country, because of the echo chambers and the little narrative bubbles that people can live in, we don't even have the foundations for a possible democracy. You know, there is a reason why in most socialist revolutions, one of the first things that the socialists do is teach people to read. They eradicate illiteracy. They turn, you know, television channels into educational platforms, not with the profit motive, but with the motive of uplifting the consciousness of the people. There's a reason why Fidel Castro would get up there and speak for eight, 10, 12 hours

straight. It wasn't because he was a narcissist with a huge ego that loved his own voice, as many anti-communists like to pretend, but rather it was because he understood the absolute necessity of explaining to the people every policy, every machination of imperialism to show them what's happening, why it's happening, what its implications are. And so this unexhaustive sort of multi-hour speeches by Fidel were educational, primarily education, trying to uplift the people's consciousness. We don't have anything like that in the U.S. From the education system to the media, it's just a mystification machine. And you see a lot of people with just no fucking clue what's going on, how things work,

but with extreme confidence that their opinions are correct. And that's horrifying. And that's not going away. going to leave when Trump leaves. And that's for damn sure. So, yeah, American politics is spectacle. We don't even have the foundations for real democracy. Politics becomes vehicles for cultural grievance. And just how radically divided the country is, there just is two sides. There is no middle anymore. And people are, I mean, I think this election is really showing just how deeply divided this country is. And that's not going anywhere either. And so while none of our

problems get solved. We're looking towards a short-term and medium-term future that will continue to entrench the very problems that so many millions of Americans think we can solve through electoral politics. Think actually that electoral politics is the only mechanism to meaningfully address and solve these issues. But time and time again, we don't get that. Obama came along in 2008, and what did he say? He promised us hope and change. He promised the left, you know, hope and change. And then just utterly failed to deliver it, right? And then what happened in the wake of Obama, Trump came along and promised the right that he was going to drain the swamp, that he was going to bring about change. And then he just utterly failed to provide

it. And then the system vomited up generic Democrat, Joe Biden, who says, nothing will fundamentally change. And that's actually a promise he will keep. And I think that's worth noting as well. The system can't generate solutions. It literally can't. And as we spiral down this inability to solve our problems. Things are only going to get much worse. Politics are only going to get much messier. And there's no easy solutions. I think what the Democrats, you know, speaking from like the progressive, left liberal perspective, what their big hope was. And this comes out of, you know, the Ezra Klein's of the world, you know, Vox Media, people that are educated that are informed, that have a liberal but progressive liberal perspective. We're talking about this a lot lately. And that's this idea

that there's going to be this huge blue wave that Biden was going to win enormously just because it was a referendum on Trump and everybody hates orange chino man. And then they were going to take over the Senate. They were going to keep the House, if not expand their majority in the House. And then their ideas were that they were going to push through some set of democracy bills. Right. So they were going to end the Senate filibuster. They were going to expand the Supreme Court. They were going to grant statehood to D.C. and point. Puerto Rico, etc. All these ideas about how to make democracy with a little D more robust in our society. And that promise, that hope utterly evaporated. So what you're getting

is a Biden presidency. It's looking and these are not settled. Again, everything I say take with the grain of salt that we're living in a very fluid moment. But the Senate does not look good for the Democrats. There's still some races going on, but it looks like the Republicans will will maintain the Senate. Mitch McConnell, one re-election, and even the House is taking some hits. So I think maybe the Democrats will limp out of these elections still holding on to the House. Likely they won't have the Senate, but they will probably have the presidency. And what is that going to lead to? Well, one, they're not going to get any of their democracy reforms passed at all, right? I mean, Mitch McConnell in the Senate is not going to allow any of these

changes, the filibuster, the expansion of the Supreme Court, statehood, voting rights protections, etc. None of that's going to be going to be passed. And moreover, nothing bigger than that is going to be passed. We saw how Mitch McConnell and the Senate Republicans dealt with Obama, right? They just blocked everything and anything that he did. There was just no ability for them to get through anything. So what we're going to have is another presidency of just executive orders. And that's not terrible. I mean, you know, rejoining the Paris Agreement, you know, some of these rolling back some of Trump's executive orders. Those are not. bad things but they're just messing around with tiny things around the fringes and so you're not going

to be able to pass anything of consequence through through a republican held senate and that is a democratic failure moreover because Biden was so hell bent on skewing his left and not even looking left but looking right as the as the democrats love to fucking do because they really just want to be a politer version of the republican party they were looking for like those conservative or center-right suburban housewives and, you know, never-Trump Republican types. So what's the actual consequence of that approach in elections? Well, you might win the presidency, right? But all those people that came out and they said, you know what?

You're right. Trump is just not the real America. That's not what we're about. And we're going to vote against Trump. But you know, God damn well, they're going to still vote for every other Republican on the ballot. You call out those people to vote against Trump on the basis of some moral pleas. And they might come in and vote against Trump. Trump on the presidential ticket, but they're still conservatives. They're still Republicans.

So you're going to have them vote Republican down ballot. And so what we're seeing, and again, this is still in motion. So when the dust settles, it could be a little different. But at least what I'm seeing right now is this down ballot sort of slaughtering. And that strips away the ability for the Democrats to have the Senate and to do anything meaningful. All this is inside baseball. All this is electoral politics. I know a lot of you are like, why does this matter? Well, it just matters because this is the actual material reality that we live in. We actually live in a society where most people are Democrat or Republican, where most people think that that is the only pathway for political change, where most people are locked up in this situation and

we're really serious consequences for people get handed down largely through these electoral processes. So it behooves a radical, even those like myself who reject electoralism entirely, to at least understand the machinations of what's happening, understand the conservative view, the liberal view, the electoral view, if only to fill out the picture for ourselves and our own analysis and our own critique better. And to be able to reach people who, you know, might not be heavily influenced or educated on political theory, who live in the world of regular Normie America where you have the Democrats and the Republicans and CNN debate nights and stuff like that. And that is their political world. You have to be able to relate to them and talk to

them on that level if you ever hope to reach 90% of regular Americans. And so I wanted just to put some of that stuff on the table first. But, you know, this is going to be, I believe, a repeat of the Obama years, which is to say I actually think that foreign policy will get worse under Biden, the intelligence agencies, the militaries, they're going to like having a more PR-friendly face to head imperialism. And so I would expect that the imperialist project to become slightly more coherent under a Biden administration, which means worse, right? More activity and more competent activity abroad than under a Trump, which is a negative

thing. So we'll just have to see how this plays out. But again, it's going to be a second Obama situation where a fundamentally centrist politician, right-wing politician in Biden really, is going to try to compromise. and negotiate with an increasingly psychotic GOP. Mitch McConnell and the Senate is going to block anything of fucking consequence. 100%. That's his job.

And they've already filled the courts out with conservative judges, the Supreme Court and other courts. And they're happy with that. And that's ultimately also connected to this, is why I don't think this whole Trump count of votes. It's all a big conspiracy against me. Shit's actually going to work. Because the Republican Party, the Republican establishment,

the ruling class, they kind of got what they wanted out of Trump. They got the conservative judges. They got that, that minoritarian stronghold in the judiciary, and they don't really need the bumbling, you know, fumbling, desperate tension of a goldfish Donald Trump to stay in office. They'd actually rather, and this is serious, I really believe this. They would rather have a Biden president, right, with a Republican-controlled Senate because it doesn't fuck with their money. Their interest are going to be served. In fact, it's going to be served better under a Biden executive branch in a Republican, Republican Senate, then it would be under a Trump presidency.

Because while President Trump certainly served the interest of the ultra rich, there's no doubt about that. He did it in a bumbling way. He did it in a way that, like, severed ties with our allies that made the stock market jump up and jump down every fucking tweet. And they don't like that sort of rampant instability. So for the ruling class, a Biden presidency and a Republican Senate is perfect for them. That's something to keep in mind as well.

So I don't think when this stuff starts getting more desperate, when it's clear and clear that Trump really has no pathway and that he's getting more and more desperate, expect at least a large portion of the Republican institutional establishment to basically turn away from him. That's not to say that his base is going away. That's not to say that the Republicans don't still need that Trump base. And it's certainly not to say that talking heads like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh aren't going to continue to play up this idea that it was stolen. And what are the consequences for a society where an already fascistic personality cult right wing totally detached from reality with half the Republican base being QAnonters? What happens when they all believe deep in their heart that this election was stolen from them? That it was a deep state coup to get Trump out, right?

I mean, he's laid the rhetorical foundations for this whole set of beliefs ever since he came into office. And that is just going to deepen, that resentment. it's going to get worse. I do expect there to be acts of lone wolf terrorism from the right. We're already seeing these weirdos with guns show up at polling areas. I'm trying to tell them to stop the count. And what was it, Michigan and Detroit, they were like, stop the count. And then down in Arizona, they were like, count the votes.

So it made for a sort of funny spectacle. But the fact that there are people with guns out in the parking lot of ballot counting areas convinced with their little QAnon brains that this was stolen from them. I think it doesn't bode well for the country. But it is worth saying, and everybody listening to me, you know this. But your brain has to be completely packed to the absolute brim with dog shit to think that the most spineless, visionless, Cretans in our society, the Democratic Party, have the capacity or even the interest in rigging an election. I mean, you just have to not understand the Democrats at all to think that they're capable of or interested in doing anything like that.

They're not, and it's not happening. It's literally just a pandemic, skewing the fact that we have way more mail-ins than we've ever had before, and that's going to take time to count in process, given that most state laws won't start counting those things until election day, and that's what we're seeing. That process is playing out. But 30%, 35%, 40%, I don't know, of the country is going to walk away from this, convinced it was stolen. And some segment of that is going to respond with violence. So those are things to think about and those are reasons, I think, to continue to build and fortify our community

defense mechanisms, our anti-fascist organizing, et cetera. Not that I think they're going to be an organized fascist force, but, you know, lone wolf terrorist attacks, continued racial animus, racial attacks like we've seen all throughout Trump's presidency. None of that is going away and in fact as more and more people on the right are convinced that this was stolen it might get even worse and that leads to another sort of situation which is you know what what's the gop going to do after this let's say trump does lose and when the dust settles it's it's actually by a fairly large margin right let's say Biden wins Nevada Pennsylvania and Georgia wins the popular vote by five to seven million votes right when the dust settles it could actually be a fairly

sizable victory in American political terms for Biden and what does that mean for the GOP they're still going to have this base of Trump cult members they're still and they've always had this base of conspiracy weirdos but social media throws gasoline on that particular fire lots of these right wingers are

absolutely in love with Trump and some attempt to revert to the Marco Rubios and the Jeb Bushes of the world is not going to fucking pass muster with the conservative base. And so on our last Red Menace episode, we talked about these three possible paths that the GOP could take, this doubling down on fascism, this restoration of sort of libertarian free market Republican Party politics that we saw before Trump. And then the third long shot was this moderate and expand idea. And I don't really know how that's going to play out, but I feel like all three of those tensions are going to remain, right? None of them come to the forefront as the

obviously correct one and even if Trump does end up losing this by big margins like I said that base of supporters is not going anywhere so that's something that that's worth thinking about another thing that I want to mention is um the racism thing right like Trump also turned out historical turnout for republicans like I think Joe Biden is going to now win the largest turnout vote ever and second or third place will be Trump this election because he turned out his base more. More Republicans ended up liking him, and he actually covered ground with people of color, right? Not huge numbers, but for a Republican Party based on white grievance, it was actually unexpected in some ways.

So that's something to think about as well, is a lot of people on the Democratic Party liberal left, they want to chalk up Trump's support entirely to racism. And I think among other things, what that does is that it obscures the failures of the Democratic Party, if you can say, you know, half this country is just irredeemably racist, then you don't really have to take any accountability for your own failures as a political party. And the Democrats are constantly trying to find scapegoats to blame for why they fucking suck. And I think just wholly blaming Trump's support on racism is one of those ways that they do

that. That's not to say racism doesn't play a fucking huge role in the Republican Party. Of course it does. But the way I put it is racism is unnecessary but not sufficient expression. explanation for Trump support. And the fact that the only group that Trump actually lost out on actually lost a percentage of the vote one was from white people, right? Like white men went stronger towards Biden than they did Trump than last election. And he, you know, raised up his Latino support. He raised up his, his black support a little bit. I mean, it was already abysmal

support, but there's a little bit of a bump there. So it's not a wholly, like, we're just hardcore racist and we're going to make that very clear. And that's why you know, half the country wins or whatever. And so just be skeptical of that framing. Again, not to say that racism doesn't play a huge role on both parties and especially on the GOP right, but it can't be the entirety of the explanation. And I think that often is a lazy way for people to think. And as I said, it provides cover for the failures of the Democratic Party themselves.

I kind of want to mention this. It's kind of off the rails a little bit, but you remember how Trump started his campaign, coming down an elevator and calling Mexican people rapists, right? they're not sending their best etc it was the first half of the four years of trump were heavy anti-immigration heavy white supremacy but they squeezed all the juice that they could out of that white resentment and white aggrievement right and they needed and they knew this in the second half of their of trump's four-year term that they needed to sort of they already got everything they could out of pissed off angry dumb white people and they needed to expand their base a little bit And so the end of this whole really focusing on immigration and shit ended in 2018.

If you remember, leading up to the midterms, we had the caravan. I mean, weeks of coverage, right, live footage of the border of this supposed horde, this army of illegal immigrants bum rushing the border to enter the country, right? And it was just juicing the white supremacy based on the GOP right for the midterm election. the moment the midterms were ever we were over we never heard about the caravan ever again and i think because inside the trump white house they started realizing we've squeezed as much juice as we can out of this lemon we got to expand our base a little bit if we hope to win these elections and you saw a little bit of that play out i mean there are we cannot treat like

just for example the the latino or as they was called the hispanic community as a monolithic block. We know through our investigations of South America, of Latin America, Central American history and coups and the Bolivian fascist coup, for example. We know that racism still lives on in Latin America, right? I mean, they were colonized as well. There are white Latinos, and, you know, that's a base of support that the far right does have. There are Latino cops. There are Latino landlords. They're Latino small business owners. It's not. It's not. crazy to think that the Republicans can reach them and that they did reach them to some extent and so again this complicates the the racism is the main explanation narrative

and I still have to wait to see how things settle and I still want to get into this more and think through the implications of this and again I'm saying that racism is an absolutely necessary component to explain Trump support but it's not sufficient there's something else going on and I think that's going to become clear and clear with hindsight But racism and white supremacy will always play a predominant role on both parties because it's the entire system itself, right? It's not like this liberal delusion that on the ballot was racism and fascism and we get Trump out. Well, we defeated racism and fascism. No, racism and fascism, they create the context in which you're even having this debate, right?

Racism and fascism are the default network of the American mind. It's what structures these political conversations and debates. It's always in the background, shaping and crafting what we talk about, what we see, how we explain things, et cetera. So this is not to downplay the importance of that, but it is to say that it is part of the answer but not the entirety of it. And that asks more of us. You can't just chalk it up to one thing. You have to think through the implications of this. And one strain in the Republican Party is we need to monitor.

moderate on race. We need to expand our base. The demographics are shifting away from us a little bit. And if we don't have some support from people of color, I mean, there's really just no way for us to continue going on as a pure party of white anger and aggrievement forever. And obviously they know this. And so we saw that entire sort of disagreement within the Republican Party play out in Trump's four years, the first two years, first to last four. And so it's interesting again to think about that stuff and to analyze that stuff. One other thing I want to mention is, you know, there's some interesting connections between Nixon, right,

who was humiliated and resigned in disgrace after Watergate and got trashed in the White House and rolled around on the floor crying and stuff. And people are saying, wow, Trump looks even weaker than fucking Nixon, right? And it's funny and it's interesting and it's true. But one thing we didn't get with Nixon that we will get with Trump is this lame duck session between when the election, results are finalized and when Joe Biden is inaugurated. So we have this two-month period of an absolutely defeated, bitter, psychotic Trump, really looking at what he's facing when he gets

out of the White House, right? I mean, there could be, he's opening himself up to prosecution in a lot of ways. There's a lot of dynamics going on here. And so we're going to have two months of him still having the bullhorn, still having the bully pulpit of being president. And that's going to be a mind-numbing, fascinating two months. Does this see how a defeated Trump is going to behave in those last two months? It's going to be a hell of a ride. So buckle in for that. And then the last thing I want to say before I just wrap up these initial thoughts is I wanted

to make a point about this drug legalization wave that really won in this election, right? Conservative places like fucking South Dakota legalizing recreational marijuana, Oregon, decriminalizing all hard drugs. I mean, there was on the ballot in many states where there was some sort of policy to decriminalize or legalized drugs, they passed. And that's good on one level. I mean, I fucking, you know me,

I'm 100% in favor of decriminalization. I've always fucking detested the racist war on drugs. I think decriminalization, regulation, you know, therapy and rehab for addicts instead of the carceral state. All these things are moving in a positive direction, but I would not be doing my job if I didn't point out the timing here. We are living in an empire and decay. We're living in a society now for two decades where the problems that our society faces literally are not solved. As our society gets

more dystopic and more menacing, as the empire decays, as it becomes clear that no one is coming to help us solve any of our problems, what begins to happen? Drugs start to get legalized everywhere. And the message is clear. And this is not a conspiratorial message. This is not a message that people in a smoke-filled room are coming up with. It's just the outgrowth, the natural results of the society unfolding given the conditions that are present right now. And that message is clear. It's that nothing will get better. It will only get worse. So go ahead and clock out, right? Live your life in a stupor. And again, I'm not against any of these things. These are steps in the right direction. There's years and years of people working to decriminalize and end the war on drugs,

etc. that are paying off in these ways and public opinion has shifted, but it is an interesting thing to note the timing. And I don't think you can wholly say that these things are disconnected. It's in the interest of anybody who wants to maintain the status quo to make more and more people clock out in whatever ways they can. And that's something. something that we should, I think, ponder a little bit and wonder about the implications of because this shit wasn't happening and it would never have happened in the 80s or even the 90s. And part of that again is activists on the front lines. Part of that is our general public opinion, but part of it is this really interesting timing as we become more and more

explicitly aware that nothing we do will solve our problems on the electoral front. Nobody's coming to save us. The political system is fundamentally broken and unable to solve any of our problems. And so for some segment of the population, this has always been true of America, but it's going to continue to be true. Some segment of the population will simply clock out in various ways. And this is one way to do that. So something to keep your eye on as things unfold. I'm going to wrap it up there, but I will say that on Red Menace, we will dive deeper into this, right? So things are still going the election has not been called stuff is very much in flux we don't have the data that's going to come out after the fact so i'm sort of giving my initial stream of consciousness thoughts

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