Rev Left Radio - The Guillotine, Episode 2: GOP Tax Bill, Net Neutrality, Police Brutality, and the Informal Anarchist Federation
Episode Date: December 20, 2017THIS IS THE LAST TIME AN EPISODE OF THE GUILLOTINE WILL BE AIRED ON REVOLUTIONARY LEFT RADIO. You can find The Guillotine podcast here: http://theguillotinepodcast.libsyn.com Subscribe to us on iTun...es and Stitcher. Follow us on twitter: @GuillotinePod Support The Guillotine here: https://www.patreon.com/TheGuillotine Follow us on FB here: https://www.facebook.com/TheGuillotinePodcast/ On episode two of The Guillotine, Dr. Bones from the Conjure House and Brett from Revolutionary Left Radio discuss the new GOP tax bill, the FCC decision to dismantle Net Neutrality, the murder of Daniel Shaver and the acquittal of Phillip Brailsford, and the Santiago Maldonado Cell of the Informal Anarchist Federation. We also take live calls from listeners. Our intro music is "Our Words" off the album "Nihilismo" by Sole and DJ Pain 1, you can find their music here: https://sole.bandcamp.com/album/sole-dj-pain-1-nihilismo Out outro music is "The Guillotine" by The String-Bo String Duo, you can find their music here: https://tsbsd.bandcamp.com/releases
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Hello everyone, welcome to Revolutionary Left Radio.
This is Brett O'Shea, and I'm just coming at you today to let you know that we're going to air the second episode of our spin-off podcast, The Geotene.
We've aired episode one and episode two here on RevLeft Radio, just to try to get people who like RevLeft Radio to be aware of the existence of the guillotine and to move them over to follow and subscribe to the guillotine on all the normal channels because the guillotine and RevLeft Radio are two totally different.
separate podcasts. They're sister podcasts. We got the idea as a spinoff from this podcast, but
no more guillotine episodes will be released on Revolutionary Left Radio. In 2018, we're going to start
a formula where we do the regular four interviews a month for RevLeft Radio, and then over at
the guillotine, we're going to put out two episodes a month. The differences between Rev. Left
Radio and the guillotine are that Rev. Left Radio focuses on interviews, focuses on theory, and
focuses on history. The guillotine is me and co-host Dr. Bones talking and analyzing current events
and then taking live calls. So it's really a complimentary podcast to this one. This one will give you
a lot of the philosophy and a lot of the high level intellectual stuff. This other podcast is meant to
keep you updated on what's going on in the news and we really aim to incite and inspire and motivate
people over there, hit them in the heart a little more than we do here at Rev Left, which is
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I'm really excited about the future of the guillotine, so here is episode two of
the guillotine.
When the angry brigades have all been
pacified and each death has been
quantified, they'll cook the books
and swallow the figures.
I'll catch you in the next life.
Man, they thought you were fuel.
And when they smelled blood,
they thought they were calling the cops,
but they threw it to the wolves.
To answer the questions, everyone's asking
our words are on everyone's lips.
We may not speak the same language,
but our words are on everyone.
lips to answer the questions everyone's asking our words are on everyone's lips we may not
speak the same language but our words are on everyone's lips good greetings and salutations everyone
thank you for tuning in to our second episode of the guillotine yes yes welcome to the
the geotene second episode live stream still working through some of the kinks and everything like that
i'm dr bones you're uh rabidly rabidly insurrectionary favorite conjurer hoodoo man egoist all sorts
of fun stuff and as always i have my wonderful wonderful host out from the primal empty
wastelands of those states that are like vaguely square shaped i'm not really sure where it's at
it's a general sort of line out there i mean i believe he exists
in a real place. But anywho, Brett from Rev Left Radio. How are you doing, Brett? Hello, everybody. I'm
doing very well. Since this is our first live stream, if people can just tweet at our
guillotine pod Twitter address and let us know that they're hearing us, or if they can't hear
us, anything, that'd be awesome just to give us a little in real time checkups. But yeah,
I'm doing really good. I'm excited to do this episode number two. This whole live stream
process is pretty nerve-wracking, but I'm excited to jump into it. Absolutely. We got a huge
response and we definitely want to thank all you folks
that were there for our
first episode. You know,
it's been a process. We've got
some amazing feedback from you guys and it definitely
feels like we're getting the message out
and definitely creating content
and hearing you guys talk to us
and hearing some of your concerns and everything like that.
It's been a great, great process.
So, without further
ado, let's
start talking about how the wonderful,
wonderful capitalist world
is fucking each and every one
of you. Brett, I think you want to open this up. Let's do it. So this week, the Republicans have
come together and they've agreed on the final version of their tax bill, a tax reform bill
that GOP leaders have said for years that they've wanted, one that simplifies the tax code
that doesn't add to the deficit and one that is fundamentally fair. Just kidding, of course,
it's the exact opposite of all of those things. This 1100-page tax bill is a ruthless
attack on the working class that seeks to transfer over almost two trillion. Almost two-true.
trillion over to large corporations and the ultra-rich. It's full of loopholes and caveats and
sneaky giveaways added in by lobbyists and corporatists meant to appease all segments of the
donor class. It dramatically increases the deficit by $1.5 trillion as it extracts hundreds of
billions of dollars a year out of the public sector and funnels it into the pockets of the
ruling class elites. It reduces corporate tax rates from 35% to 21% and, and, you know, and
And, oddly enough, it has a bunch of provisions relating to real estate that will, out of total coincidence, of course, end up benefiting Donald Trump and many high-level congressional Republicans personally.
For example, you don't say.
I don't say.
For example, one provision allows real estate developers who own buildings through LLCs, as Trump does, to deduct 20% of the income that those properties generate.
To qualify for this tax break, the properties have to be relatively newer ones that haven't been fully depressive.
appreciated. Quote, this helps people who have held property for a while, like Donald Trump,
unquote, David Kamen, a law professor at New York University told the International Business Times
recently. This bill also annihilates the mandate for the liberal bandaid on the proverbial
broken leg known as the Affordable Health Care Act, which, in effect, will increase the cost
of health care and make it much more difficult to obtain, specifically for sick people.
It's a sneaky way of Trojan horsing in an attack on health care reform under the guise of a tax bill.
It also takes away a tax deduction aimed at helping married people with a nice little interesting caveat that exempts married couples who happen to own sports franchises.
The Wall Street Journal cited a top GOP aide who said of this caveat that, quote,
it preserves the ability to use the tax-exempt bonds for professional sports stadium bonds, a priority for Mr. Trump, unquote.
Ah, well, at least all of our married friends who own sports teams will be just fine.
Yeah, all of them.
This tax bill, which again is over 1,100 pages, is being pushed through extremely quickly
so as to ensure the fewest amount of Americans possible will be able to read and learn about it.
They are aiming to vote on the bill, which seems almost certain to pass sometime this week.
The Senate version of the bill was passed in the middle of the night while most Americans were asleep,
and this final version was announced on Friday evening, which is a well-eastern.
which is well known as the primary time to dump bad news so as to reach the least amount of
people as possible.
They do not want you to know what this bill is going to do to you.
And in addition to being sneaky fucking rats about it, they deploy their army of PR people
ranging from shitty Fox News pundits to the president himself, who is pitching this bill
as, quote, a Christmas present for the middle class, unquote.
Whether Trump is too incompetent to understand the bill or just cynically providing cover
for it is neither here nor there.
He would support it either way.
The guy who ran on draining the swamp, bringing back jobs, and standing up against the establishment
is just as much of a gleeful fucking mascot for the ruling class as we all knew he would be.
The logic being used to defend this bill is the logic of the thoroughly debunked mythology of trickle-down economics.
By giving the rich and powerful more money, the fairy tale goes, these benevolent overlords will hire more of us peasants.
Ah, yes, the benefits of this massive wealth transfer.
will surely trickle down upon us all.
Not unlike Piss
pushed feebly through the swollen
prostate choked tubes and
out of the sad flaccid cocks
of old white men in suits.
But we all know what this
really is. It's the looting and plundering
of the working class and the handing
over of massive amounts of wealth to the
ruling class. This is class
war. And this is the sneaky,
polished, and disorienting way
that it's carried out under bourgeois
so-called democracy. It's the improved cleverness of slave masters, colonizers, and corporate
vampires. It's packaged neatly in the wrapping of technocratic policy language and obscurantism,
but it's the same old capitalist scam, one we've had shoved down our throats a million times
before. The only thing that separates this wealth transfer from earlier ones is the boldness
of it. It seems like our rulers have stopped even pretending to give a fuck what we think.
They know that our political system is such an entrenched dictatorship that the opinions of the masses are more meaningless today than they've ever been.
This bill has only around 30% support, virtually all of it coming from the brainwashed zombies who listen to millionaires lie to them on Fox News and conservative talk radio all day.
But they wouldn't give a shit if it only had 3% support.
They would bash us over the head with it regardless because it serves the interests of the bourgeoisie.
And those are the only people who really matter.
But here's the most important thing that I really want you to remember and take away from this.
Mark my words on this.
Once the vampires have passed this tax bill and almost $2 trillion is extracted from government revenue streams
and people have moved on and accepted this defeat,
these fucking scumbags will come back in around a year with their very serious faces and their briefcases
and all of their policy papers and they will give you that look that your parents used to give you as a kid
when they couldn't afford to buy you that new bike for Christmas and they'll adjust their
ties and they will tell you in somber tones that we're really sorry but facts are facts and
we just don't have the money to afford Medicare and Social Security anymore. These programs are
going to have to be privatized because the deficit is just too big and they after all are the party
of fiscal responsibility. There is just no other way. It must be done. But don't worry, your
Grandma will be given the highest quality cat food to eat in her old age,
and the increasing amount of old people living on the streets and sleeping under bridges
is just a result of them refusing to pull on those bootstraps hard enough.
Sorry, folks, but this is just the cost to do in business.
Now stand up, put your hand over your heart, and repeat after me.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands,
one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and joy.
justice for all.
Close curtain.
God damn.
Well, son of a bitch.
Now, where to start
tap it into that? I mean, folks,
let's be real about this.
We all know, we all know what happened.
I think all of us
know that yet again,
the American people have been
bent over the counter
and fucked.
What makes this
so unique,
What makes it so special, and which even Trump is calling this a once-in-a-generation opportunity, is
we are looking at an entire restructuring of the American economy.
Now, there's one part of this whole tax bill that really stuck out to me, that which I noticed was very, very downplayed in the medium.
And that is the 100% elimination of the inheritance tax.
all okay so no matter how many millions billions whatever you make that money will never ever be
touched by the united states government what that does in effect is turn the united states into
the largest and most well-armed tax haven for the world's wealthy you see that's the game a lot
of times we look at the republicans or we look at our enemies and the bourgeoisie and we think
these people have just got to be fucking off the rock or they they must not understand how
the world works but that's not necessarily true they're very aware how the world works and in their
mind they want to create a united states where the wealthy are free to do whatever they want
the world's wealthy they want the united states to be the new london right they want to be able to
have all these people living in fancy neighborhoods with purified air and everything like that
they want all the wealth to come here, and they want all the wealthy to know that you and your
kids will never, ever touch their fucking money. And where does that leave you? Well, if any of you
are near a computer, I would highly, highly suggest you Google search maybe some pictures of some
shanty towns. Maybe you and your loved ones could start thinking of construction ideas and how
exactly you want your roof to slant. Maybe a potted plant grown out of maybe like a two-liter bottle.
to add a little bit of flair, a little bit of class, because that's the future that's running
towards us. Now, I live in Florida. I know some people that live in the Bahamas, which is another
sort of like tax haven. And these people live next to these resorts where American tourists go
and spend hundreds, hundreds dollars. The places are huge. They have fences and everything like that.
And they're living in terrible conditions. And they have to stand there and treat these people like
they're kings and queens because that's the only way to make money.
So God help us if the United States in totality turns into some Godforsaken fucking
tourist end where all of us are just merely service employees for the wonderful, wonderful
wealthy of the world.
Yeah, this is fucking terrible.
This is fucking terrible.
It'll probably pass.
And I think all of us have got to understand that, you know, this is real, folks.
We're getting into some shit where the majority of the world that you and I know is being
stripped mined from us in ways that we can.
can barely even imagine. Yeah, and that's, you know, asset stripping, looting, plundering.
These are, this is not hyperbole. I'm talking about them attacking social security,
increasing the homelessness of old folks. This is not hyperbole. We already are living in a
context in which wealth inequality is as bad as it's ever been in the modern period. It's
already terrible. It's worse than, uh, I think there was one study. It's actually worse than
the Roman Empire. Yeah. We, we, this, our lives are such shit. We are rivaling the rest of history
It's a little poetic irony there that we're kind of mirroring the sort of decline of the Roman Empire.
The American Empire is in decline.
The ruling class knows it is.
The liberals want to manage that decline, and the Republicans want to loot and plunder and asset strip everything they can from it in the meantime.
You know, I was looking at some numbers and some estimates, you know, the conservative estimate for this tax bill is $1.5 trillion over 10 years being transferred to the ultra rich.
I looked at some numbers and it was about $1.2 trillion to eradicate all student debt in the country.
Imagine what that would do to take away all.
I have $60,000 in debt myself to just wipe that away how much that would free up working young people.
The other thing would be about $1.4 trillion to implement universal health care in this country.
So the amount of money being taken away from the public sector and given to the private sector, the ultra-rich in the corporations,
that money could have been used to do those two huge things that need to happen.
And before we move on, I want to, I told this on my Facebook page, but I want to tell this story
of I was at work the other day.
I walked down into the cafeteria during lunchtime, and they always have a TV playing,
and this time the TV was on MSNBC News.
And they were talking about this tax bill, and there's a couple old ladies sitting at a table
looking up watching this TV.
One of the old ladies, I could audibly hear her saying, I don't understand.
like what is like leaning over to the lady next to her like what are they doing here like what's this tax bill about and the other lady just kind of like you know ignored her and kept eating like i don't know i shrugged her shoulders and this lady just kept looking really intently and then MSNBC you know this bastion of liberal news brought on this talking head guy this you know pale thumb of a human being with no differentiating unique qualities or features about them whatsoever you know these centrist that they they lead on they parade on and off the television he sits there and he just he proceeds to give the normal trickle-down economic argument
He covers it in technocratic language and talks about how it's really going to help the working class and all this stuff.
And this poor lady starts nodding her head, affirming, and I can only assume accepting what this fucking vampire is framing and twisting and shoving down her throat.
I failed as a radical.
And some of my friends have called me out, like you should have went up and talked to her.
It was an awkward situation.
I'm at work.
She's having lunch.
I'm just walking by.
But that's my fault.
My own awkwardness and sort of not wanting to be conferencing.
Or to step into somebody else's business, that should not have stopped me from stepping in and saying, hey, that fucking guy is lying to you. Here's the real deal. I failed in that moment. And I vowed to myself not to fail in those moments again. But this is the sort of, you know, what confused, disoriented working people are getting fed to them. And a lot of them are buying it. And it's super sad. And it's heartbreaking.
well don't worry because um again and let's let's silver lining here folks um if you're a radical
okay you you ladies and gentlemen we we are watching the demolition charges be slowly placed on
the american economy and lifestyle we're watching it happen okay you can see this tax plan
start to manifest and you know you know these motherfuckers are going to be pretty much just
destroying the average sort of quality of life that you're normal, everyday average American
has gotten used to. And there is a revolutionary opportunity because especially being the heart
of the empire, you know, Americans have gotten used to a certain amount of life. We don't
expect our power to be off. We expect to be well fed. We expect to be able to do the things
we want to do, live the way we want to live generally. As long as we have all these things,
your average American seems plenty complacent.
But when those things start to go away, okay,
when the people start having their power turned off,
when the meals start to become harder and harder to find,
when the depression and the anxiety starts to stead in,
and people are fighting for jobs,
and you're living in a neighborhood that your family is afraid to visit,
it's the only thing you can afford to live in,
when that existence becomes whole.
sale and spreads out over the country. You are going to have people that are so desperate and so
worried, they are going to be willing to start thinking about change. And that is the time.
That is the time that you and I and everyone listening to this right now needs to be there.
We need to be that voice before anybody else. Because a lot of people, when they're put in those
dangerous situations, when it's your kids about to be on the street and your stomach that's
empty, you'll hear a lot of people's opinions. And you may give some ideas a second thought
that you thought you never would have. It's no coincidence that Hitler took power right after
Germany was militarily and economically in the shitter. That's what we got to watch for.
And it's coming. So, folks, we have a revolutionary opportunity. Take this moment as a lesson.
Start preparing yourself. Maybe start thinking up some arguments. Start thinking out ways that maybe
you can start making people aware.
And, of course, also get your friends
and your family situated and prepared
because, again, we're coming towards
a gigantic shitstorm.
So, but moving on on another gigantic pile of shit,
let's get to the off-discussed net neutrality.
Last week, the FCC in a move that, no doubt, okay,
is pleasing to the hordes and hordes of bourgeoisie
that are just in line with this tax plan.
The FCC is moving to remove the legislative protections we have commonly referred to as net neutrality.
Now, while not yet set in stone, let's be very clear, it is not a death knell, there is still a chance.
It looks to be everything's going to be passed.
And once it does, all of us will be looking at higher prices depending on what sites you visit, how often.
And yes, folks, yes, even how much of the foulest hentai you download.
stream. They're coming for your porn folks. Okay? They're coming. Get ready. Download as much as you
can. Now, I know across the week we've heard a lot of conversations about what net neutrality is and how
it works and how this repeal is going to affect you. Okay. And a lot of people have been talking about
the money. But I want to talk to you about something else. Class warfare. You see,
the internet has allowed the common people, you and I, and everybody listening,
to have access to the world's knowledge.
We've downloaded ancient texts,
we've watched college lectures,
we've learned how to build and do things
that we may have never had access to.
And slowly we've taken more and more power for ourselves.
We've communicated across continents.
We've made friends we might never know.
And we have found a small glimmer of hope
in an otherwise alienated world.
And the wealthy can't stand that.
You see, they can't stand the idea that they can't charge you extra,
that the poor and the working people can make their own media,
their own education, their own worldviews.
And rather than let it alone, they're going to take it away from you.
One of the main things about this building continually seems to get brushed over
is the idea that these cable companies want to create fast and slow lanes for internet traffic.
okay now let's say you run a website okay if you want to make sure your connection moves swiftly
to the end user you need to pay those companies an extra fee if you don't pay your signal might
not move as fast as you'd like it's basically like the old mafia protection rackets look either
you pay us or maybe uh people don't come to your store no more without a couple of the legs broken
if you have a website with quote unquote questionable content maybe quote illegal or revolutionary in nature you could be blocked completely and they will shut you down and here's the crazy thing folks we've seen all this before okay i want to give you a quote all right
the people's university of the air will have a greater student body than all of our universities put together that's a quote from 1922 that was the director of research
for the Radio Corporation of America.
We have another one from good old at the time,
Herbert Hoover, the Secretary of Commerce at the time in 1922.
It is inconceivable that we should allow
so great a possibility for service, for news, for entertainment,
and for vital commercial purposes
to be drowned in advertising chatter.
They were talking about the radio.
You see, back in the day, back when radio was still young,
it was like the internet.
It was a fucking free-for-all.
Okay. Every town had their own wireless station. You had some of them being run out of gas stations. And when someone pulled up to the gas station, the DJ would basically say, hold on, I'll be right back. I've got to go fill some gas. People were communicating. Any idea could be thrown up there, discussed, argued, fought. People were on there reading poetry, stories, arguing politics, all sorts of stuff. That all changed. In 1927, in a move very very, very, very,
similar to today. Congress created the Federal Radio Commission, which endowed the power to assign
wavelengths to the government. It began aggressively doing so, booting hundreds of small
stations off the air to produce clear channels for the corporate interests, the big firms
at the time, wide open zones where they could broadcast with no interference and sell
their products. Today, radio is a shell of its former self. It is a shell. It
is not a place of free expression.
It is a tide pool of gross and disgusting worms
hell-bound on selling you
focus-grouped music and advertising bullshit.
The DJs on the fucking radio
don't even pick the songs.
Everything is controlled.
There is no uniqueness.
There is no creativity.
There is nothing.
We, in effect, lost an entire medium.
Gone.
What was in the 20s believed to be
one of the greatest educational and social institutions.
People thought that this was going to revolutionize humanity.
Because for the first time, people could talk to one another and learn from one another for free.
And they're taking that away from you today, folks.
They're removing that ability from you.
Exactly.
And if you just want to get a glimpse at what Bones is saying there,
If you turn on FM radio or you turn on shitty conservative AM radio or you go and watch cable television with three with every three minutes there's a fucking barrage of commercials all the programming is lowest common denominator low brow shit nothing unique nothing interesting nothing edgy nothing compelling that is the same people that now want to own the internet and it's a fucking sad fact but as long as capitalism is in place we're going to have to continue to
continually fight this battle. Just like two years ago in 2015 when we had to fight this battle,
net neutrality was actually implemented as a response to these corporations trying to throttle
speeds and prioritize content and hike up fees for everyone. So we did that. Then they're back in
2017 trying to do it. And even if somehow these legal battles come through and we end up winning
this fight, we're going to have to fight it again in two years because we don't live in a democracy.
We live in the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. And the people who have
money and power and influence will leverage that money and power and influence to ensure
that insanely important mediums like the internet is firmly under their control.
It serves a few purposes.
One purpose it serves is the like bones implied the pulling back of the narrative.
They want their narrative out there.
They want their ideas and their vision of the world prioritized over two broke assholes
like me and bones, they don't want, they don't want our shit to be out there. They want it to make
as hard as possible. We can barely afford to get gas to come over to this basement to do this
recording. And so if our fees go up, if our bandwidth costs goes up, if it costs more to
host on our websites, our social media to promote our podcast, we're going to be fucked. We don't
have the means to stand up to these people. And another thing they do is the pretense of
democracy, they used to pretend it was a democracy. They used to pretend they cared.
but over 80% of Americans
over 80%
imagine getting 80% of Americans
to agree on literally anything
80%, 83% of Americans
supported net neutrality
only 30% support this GOP tax bill
both Trump and Clinton
during the campaign
had disapproval ratings in the 60% to 70%
range yet net neutrality's been gutted
Trump and Clinton were only two options
and this fucking tax bill is likely to pass
they don't even pretend
that it's a democracy or a representative
Republican
uh representative Republican anymore.
It's totally fucked.
And the last thing I'll say about this does not get enough coverage in this discussion,
but more and more info is coming out that over two million people's identities were stolen.
And they were,
their names were used in a bot program when the FCC opened up this decision to the public.
A whole bunch of seemingly regular people were defending, destroying net neutrality.
That makes no sense.
Well, when journalistic outlets like,
the Washington Post looked into it, they found that a lot of these people had their identity stolen,
and there's some shadowy organization behind the scenes pushing out these people's names with
pro-destroying net neutrality comments on the FCC website.
So from A to B, this is bullshit. Go ahead.
Can we, and just, can we just pause for a second, and can we, like, dwell on the sheer skull-duggery,
the sheer scum-sucking nature that some of these people,
One person I saw, their mother had been dead for two years, and uh-oh, suddenly her name and her picture is on a internet post talking about how net neutrality isn't necessary.
These people are literally willing to dig up the digital graves of the working class to push their message.
There is no pity.
There is no mercy.
They don't care.
They don't care about you people.
They view Brett and I.
I and every one of you listening to this
as a bunch of livestock.
They think the worst thing
that ever happened to you in your life
is that you got a little bit of sense
and you started asking questions
and they want to shove your ass back down
into the darkness.
They don't want you to know anything
other than the little tiny bits of knowledge.
They feed you.
And only that they give you
after they've broken every bit
of your will and spirit.
It's coming, folks.
It's coming down the pipelines.
But again, we are
not lost here if we especially as radicals if you have quote unquote questionable ideas we need to start
figuring out ideas to stay alive we need to start figuring out ideas to keep our messages moving to
keep our platforms rolling whether it's finding out new ways to get our message off of the
quote unquote you know regular internet maybe in the dark web but also maybe returning to
physical mediums okay that's up to you and again when we open this up to calls i would love to
hear what you think we in the radical community can do to survive what could very well be a death
now so when we open up those lines for calls i would love to hear what you folks say um but again
brett i think you have another story that uh i'm very very happy that i did not drink too much
liquor because I get really, really angry and violent when I drink a lot of liquor. And this next
story is enough to make me really, really itch for a 45. Go ahead, sir. I was literally about to say
bones has already worked up. I'm trying not to give him an aneurysm, but this next story,
this fucking next story is going to piss off anybody with the fucking pull. So this next story
is one that, you know, it makes me fucking shake with rage. Even in the process of researching
and writing this piece, I had to like step away and take deep breath periodically to maintain some
semblance of composure. The story, of course, is the story of the absolutely brutal police
murder of Daniel L. Shaver in the hallways of a hotel that he was staying at, and the subsequent
acquittal of the piece of shit police officer who murdered him in cold blood, Philip
Brilsford. So, backstory. On January 18, 2016, Daniel and two friends were inside their hotel room,
and Daniel was showing his friends an air gun that he used in his capacity as a
a pest control worker. The air rifle had a scope on it, and Daniel pointed the air rifle
out of his hotel window to show how well the scope worked, effectively using the scope as one would
use binoculars to look into the distance. A witness who was staying at the hotel, saw
Shaver through his window, and notified the front desk. The police were notified and soon thereafter
showed up at the hotel to confront Daniel and his acquaintances. Daniel, who had been drinking with
his friends, was totally caught off guard by the police as he walked out of his hotel room casually,
only to be confronted by screaming officers with their weapons drawn,
led by the officer Philip Brailsford,
who had his own personal AR-15 on him and drawn and pointed directly at Daniel.
Officer Brailsford commenced shouting out a slew of contradictory demands
to a clearly shaken and horrified Daniel Shaver.
The commands included, among many others,
the command to cross his legs and keep his hands stretched to the ceiling,
followed immediately by a command to crawl towards the officer,
This fucking pig told Daniel to keep his hands high above his head or he would be killed.
He said that even if Daniel were to start falling, he better fucking land on his face rather than take his arms down.
Yet immediately after that command, Philip ordered Daniel to crawl towards him, which necessitates putting one's hands down onto the carpet in order to crawl.
Throughout all of these absurd demands, Daniel can be heard sobbing and begging for his life, trying as desperately as he could,
To obey every illogical and physically impossible demand that was being launched at him.
To watch this macabre scene is to watch a petty little scumbag tyrant,
feeling every ounce of socially sanctioned authority coursing through his cowardly fucking veins,
barking out orders that he knew Daniel couldn't possibly obey.
And then the second he had the chance,
firing five bullets into Daniel's horrified, begging body,
slaughtering an innocent man
afterwards he cruelly
and casually walked over the dead body
of the unarmed man he had just murdered
without so much as even a pause
imagine for a second
what it would be like if you were innocently
having a good time with friends
drinking and laughing and then were
immediately thrown into a situation
where several screaming cops
had high-powered weapons pointed at you
yelling incoherent and contradicting
commands and threatening to murder
are you over and over again.
Here is an audio clip of the incident.
And please brace yourself
because watching it is hard,
listening to it is hard, the whole fucking thing
is extremely hard. But here it is, because I think
it's important.
Okay, young man, listen to my instructions
and do not make a mistake.
You are to keep your legs crossed.
Do you understand me?
Yes, sir.
You are to put both of your hands
palm down straight out
in front of you.
Push yourself up to a kneeling position.
I said, kick your legs crossed.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I didn't say this in conversation.
Put your hair!
Hand up in the air!
You do that again.
We're shooting you.
Do you understand?
Please do not shoot me.
Then listen to my instructions.
I'm trying to do what you...
Don't talk, listen!
Hands, straight up in the air.
Do not put your hands down for any reason.
down for any reason. You think you're gonna fall, you better fall in your face.
Your hands go back and the small of your back are down. We are going to shoot you. Do you understand me?
Yes, sir.
Crawl towards me.
Crawl towards me!
Yes, sir.
Don't...
Motherfucker.
Can't even fucking listen to that shit.
God.
After the murder of Daniel, an investigation was launched.
The investigation was launched by the Mesa Police Department.
Among a myriad of policy violations, they also discovered that Phillips AR-15 had a dust
cover upon which was engraved the ominous words, you're fucked.
That alone gives you a perfect glimpse into the mentality of the police and the psychology
of this little fucking coward who needs big weapons, a badge, plenty of backup, and the ability
to murder innocent people to feel big and tough.
Philip Brailsford was fired by the department and charged with
second-degree murder. However, on December 7, 2017, as we've seen over and over and over again
in this fucking disgusting society, Philip Brailsford was found innocent on all charges and was
completely acquitted by a jury after a six-week trial. He walked out of the courtroom a free
man, able to do what Daniel Shaver and so many other victims of police slaughter will never
be able to do. Live a full life surrounded by family and friends. This
cop is probably sitting on his couch with the freshly poured beer or out with his friends
at some fucking restaurant laughing and having a great time.
While Daniel's friends and family and everyone on planet Earth with a heart weeps
over yet another totally unnecessary loss of an innocent life.
I know he will never tune into this show and never hear this, but hopefully my words
will resonate and echo into the cosmos for all time.
Philip Brailsford, you are a cowardly piece of shit, a scared little trembling bully who,
like all bullies can only feel
like a man when hiding behind a badge
and dominating and oppressing those who
can't possibly fight back.
You better pray to whatever God you believe
in that the revolution never, ever
comes in your lifetime. Because I promise
you, if we ever get the chance
in the course of that revolution, to bring
real revolutionary justice down
upon the heads of spineless, murdering
worms like you, we will do so
with the same...
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Brett.
Brett.
FBI, buddy.
I'll say this. I'll end it with this. You're right. I'll end it with this. I hope when you die, Philip, I'm sure of natural causes in old age, why you're asleep in bed because there's no fucking justice in this world, that your body is put to rest in the only place worthy of it, a rat and cockroach infested garbage dump. Only there will you ever be truly among your own. Having said that, I do want to take a moment before I wrap up to highlight the situation that we're in and to explain what certain disparities like.
this in our so-called justice system mean at this historical moment. In the United States
of America, you can literally murder an unarmed, innocent man who is begging for his life
and crawling on the ground on camera and get away with it scot-free. But if you even attend
a protest in which a handful of windows are broken, you will face up to 70 years in a cage,
even if they have exactly zero evidence
that you've broken even a single law
this is because as neoliberal late capitalism spirals the drain
as the state loses legitimacy in the eyes of millions of Americans
as the quality of life for working people goes down
while the pockets of the ultra-rich get thicker
the U.S. government needs increasingly
to use brutal violence at home to keep the population under control
this takes two forms simultaneously
the hyper-militarization of the police, along with the total acquittal of officers who abuse their power on the one hand,
and the merciless crackdown of radical leftist movements on the other.
The state needs to ramp up and approve of the violence perpetuated by its domestic foot soldiers on the ground,
and it needs to brutally crack down on and desperately de-incentivize any dissent in the general population.
As crisis capitalism continues to drain the blood of everything decent in this world,
it has to dramatically increase the violence and brutality,
which it has always used to keep the rabble at bay,
to keep folks like us scattered, scared, poor, and divided.
It's also worth noting that the state does not do the same thing to the far right.
For example, felony conspiracy charges are leveraged against left-wing protesters
who were merely present in a general area where windows were broken,
but fascists and Nazis never get hit with similar charges,
even when one of their own mows down people in Charlottesville,
murdering our comrade Heather Heyer, or when a Nazi stabs three people in the throat on a Portland train,
murdering two of them and critically injuring the third?
Not once are the fascists who planned and worked with these murderers charged with any form of conspiracy or accessory charges.
This is because the far right, despite all of their bullshit talk about hating the government,
is not a threat to the status quo.
In fact, they help enforce the very hierarchies of class, race, and gender that capitalism and the U.S.
state depend on for their continued existence.
The cops and fascists are, for all intents and purposes,
attack dogs of the same capitalist state who use extreme violence against the very
people who the state views as enemies, the poor, people of color, the revolutionary
left, etc.
The enemy of their enemy is their friend, and with every killer cop who goes free,
and with every Nazi who gets protected, the U.S. state and the economic system of which
it is a manifestation continues on.
And that's truly all that matters, no matter how many innocent people have to die in the process.
Oh, man, lots on the pack there.
Yeah, I mean, like, let's just, let's just, that, you know, we're so, especially in this generation,
and especially with the access to some of the content that people RH have, you know,
you've seen people die on the internet, I have, I have, I think everybody has.
um especially with the police violence we have watched especially in the neighborhoods and cars of
people of color you know they've been mowed down uh time and time again on footage and this footage
changes nothing changes nothing the jury every time both these cops off it happens every time
and this guy daniel's last words were yes sir i
I'm sorry, sir, as he cried and attempted to crawl towards a man with a badge and a gun and an attitude that said he was the master of the universe.
We confront this horror every day.
And especially communities of color have confronted this every day.
Even before we had video, these people had deal with it and watch it and live it.
Much like happens today, the regular mainstream American society says, well, comes with the territory.
Collateral damage.
Got to have these cops.
Got to keep you safe.
What are you going to do?
Call a crackhead?
Folks, as we stressed in the last episode, we are in enemy territory.
If you don't think that these cops would do the same thing to you in a heartbeat, you're mistaken.
They will come for you.
They will kill you and your family without a second thought.
That's what they do.
And in fact, the entire United States government depends upon.
an entire class of people getting away with murder they have to give these people special privileges
because they need their violence they need their brutality and they need to make it okay
one thing i think has to be said and i've seen this in multiple cases and i think it's something
that we as radicals need to foster is an absolute zero tolerance policy for people
calling the police.
I'm not just talking about snitches.
I'm talking about the guy
that called the cops
on a black man
that happened to be standing in the
toy aisle of Walmart
holding
a plastic gun.
Okay, I'm talking about people
calling in
their neighbors being loud
and having someone
show up and
and blow one of them away right in the yard.
We need as a community and as a movement to make it clear that not only are the police, not our friends,
but that we really need to start thinking about people that talk to, people that fraternize,
people that help the police as literal threats to our lives.
they are i don't know about you folks i don't trust those people i sure as hell don't trust those people
and i think we definitely need to keep them away from us i think we need to keep them away from our
movements and i mean what do you do in a situation like this is there going to be any justice for
the person that called that uh called those officers in is is anyone going to talk to that person
no they're they're going to live the rest of their lives knowing they called down the full
militarized force of the united states fucking government on a guy
Just trying to have a good time.
He hasn't come forward.
I haven't seen any report by this motherfucker out there
talking about how wrong he was
or any of the other people that have called the police
on black folks just existing.
They're never sorry.
Oh, I wish.
Oh, I had to...
No, that shit needs that.
And again, especially nowadays,
especially with the J20 case,
I think all of us radical
anarchists,
communists, anyone that's a radical
anyone that's revolutionary needs to
understand that we are being
listened to, we are being watched
and these are the same motherfuckers that are going to call the cops on you
and bring this to your house.
So there are certain things we have to learn to say.
And again, we just need to stop snitching.
We need to create a culture where
working with the police
is a
total, total
taboo. Because this is what's killing people. And also
folks, as I've said before,
these are the soldiers of the state. These are the soldiers of the state
coming to kill you. They're killing people. This is an
armed force in your community hurting the people you love.
We need to start preparing.
Take that rage. You listen to a man die tonight.
You've listened to it before.
You listen to a person beg for their life in tears and be executed on burst mode.
That's coming.
It's coming for you.
It's coming for me.
It's coming for everyone we love unless we begin to organize in our communities and say, enough is enough.
We need to make areas where the police do not want to go, where the calls are not coming from.
because as communities and as radicals
we can deal with these issues within ourselves
and if we can't
then what good was our politics anyway
and before I let Bones go on to the next segment
I'm not going to say much
obviously anybody that watches or hears that clip
if you have a heart it's going to tear it apart
the guy was so scared he was crying begging for his life
this is just a bro machismo piece of shit
who murdered somebody and this illusion.
I know nobody I'm listening,
nobody listening right now
has any illusions that there's good cops.
But that guy, Philip Brilsford,
he was not by himself.
Behind him were a fuck ton of other cops.
And if there was a single fucking good cop among them,
they would have turned their weapons on Philip
because they just witnessed a murder of an innocent man
and not only did they do nothing,
they continued their fucking little police escapade,
went into the room afterwards,
cleared it all out,
and Philip wasn't so much as even reprimanded by the fellow officers.
There are two types of cops, bad cops and silent cops.
And if there are good cops and they speak out against the bad cops, they're fired or demoted.
So there's two types of cops, which is to say there's one type of cop, bad cops.
And we saw it in action on camera there.
And to Bones's point about not calling the police, that means that we need to organize alternatives to policing in our own communities.
It's a huge task.
police are going to fight against it. The state is going to fight against it. They're going to
pass laws against it if we start trying to do it. The Black Panther Party is a nice
beginning point that we can all study in history of a group of people who tried to do that
because the police, the white police were an occupying force in their communities. They started
cop watches. They became heavily armed. They monitored their own communities. That's something
that we should at least try to do. But it's going to be very difficult, especially as we've
talked about as capitalism circles, as late capitalism circles the drain, this, this amping
up and militarization of the police to keep the domestic population in control is going to
continue. So I'm not going to say much more. I'm going to hand it over to Bones and say whatever
you want. One last thing. And also, I mean, just to piggyback on that, as we discussed last
episode with, you know, sexism and everything like that, that means we got to be hyper vigilant
in our own communities for abuse. Okay? Because too many times this unwillingness to work with
authorities creates these dead zones where we don't fill that void and then you create cycles
of abuse you allow people that can come in and abuse people or do terrible terrible things and
people don't do any we have to basically self-regulate okay if someone's being a shithole person
we fucking take care of it if someone has a problem we take care of it that's what it's got to be
and we cannot shy away from the fact that yes we're going to be dealing with a whole bunch of
more issues, okay? Absolutely. We have to be prepared for that. If we're really in a
revolutionary struggle here, if we're talking real revolution, what do you do when your neighbors
are screaming, fighting, throwing shit in the yard? You know, there's this extremely fine line
of what's, how do you relate to that, how do you deal with that, how do you de-escalate that
situation? We're going to have to study that. We're going to have to confront that. And I, I,
I think it's an issue that, especially in a lot of anarchist and radical, communist, everything,
every kind of revolutionary literature hasn't adequately been dealt with, basically community relations
and how to keep a functioning community and deal with issues like that.
We've got to deal with that.
We've got to bring that into our own communities and start to study it if we want to truly exist without the police.
But now, as a sort of interesting foil to what is going on in the United States, because here at the guillotine, we absolutely have a internationalist view.
I want to talk to you about something that apparently has been going on in Europe, something that has not been reported by the capitalist press.
Ladies and gentlemen, Italy has been a blaze inactivity.
apparently on the 15th of December, a masked individual on a motor scooter through a
Molotov cocktail at police vehicles parked outside a police station in Prati before making a quick
escape.
This was reported by the Italian corporate media.
However, at the van suffered minor damage.
This attack comes less than two weeks after the explosive attack against a police station in
San Giovanni Rome by the Santiago Maldonado cell F-A-I.
f r i if the name seems strange to you this cell has named themselves after the anarchist that was kidnapped and killed in south america
that night a steel thermist containing 1.6 kilograms of explosives was detonated outside of a police station
this group released a communique explaining their motivations which we at the guillotine have decided to read
for purely
journalistic purposes.
Let me say that we
at the guillotine,
both Dr. Bones and Brett,
do not condone
any kind of behavior like this,
et cetera, et cetera.
This is a purely
journalistic endeavor.
But we think that you people
should hear
what is going on
in the war for the world.
The communique reads as follows.
In times of social peace
and compliance,
there is no better reply
than action. A stimulus, a continuity, and a jolt to wake up those who sleep.
Acting on one's own initiative breaks the compliance and inaction and ignites those whose blood
boils. The anarchic practices of attack must be the basic stimulus of anarchy. Otherwise,
it is a walking dead. Action is necessary to make us alive in the ways we consider opportune,
removed from every program, hierarchical and vertical structure. Many revolutionary practices are a part of an
anarchism in its bowels. We have decided to take our lives into our own hands by breaking the
oppressive peace that surrounds us. On the night of the 6th to the 7th of December, we placed a
steel thermos containing 1.6 kilograms of explosives outside the Carbonari Barrax in the San Giovanni
district in Rome. Our attentions have turned to the main guardians of the deadly order of capitalism,
the police. Without them, the privileges, the arrogance, and the wealth acclimated by the owners
would be nothing, because they have always had the function of repressing, jailing, deporting,
torturing, and killing those who by choice or necessity find themselves outside their law.
The fight against the state is not simple and cannot be reduced to magic formulas,
but the objectives are there, and you cannot always make theories and talk of convenience.
Every individual free by desire and necessity puts theory into action here and now.
There is no delegation in the struggle for freedom.
what would have been in these years
if an incendiary minority
had not picked up the torch of anarchy
if these comrades had waited for better times
the president of the European Commission
whose Christmas was ruined knows something about this
he knows something about the vampire of Equitalia
and was mutilated by one of its claws
the sorcerer of Ansalado nuclear
must have felt the heat from the torch of anarchy
and his legs
side note they're referring to an attack
where a certain individual
was shot in the kneecaps by anarchists
today we take the torch of anarchy
tomorrow it will be somebody else
as long as you do not turn it off
who wants to watch
will continue to watch
who wants to justify
politically not acting will continue
not doing so we are not waiting
for any train of hope
we do not wait for better times
conditions move with the confrontation
the movement is such
if it acts otherwise it stands still
the liberation of the individual from
authority and exploitation is carried out
by those directly concerned.
Yet those who attack are driven by a continuous urge.
This means propaganda of the deed.
Against all cops, politicians and their stooges,
against engineers of science and industry,
against all masters, but also against all servants,
against the ranks of honest citizens of the prison.
We are not interested in wasting time and energy
in the critique of reformists.
Although we do not consider ourselves an elitist minority,
as anarchists, we have our actions and our demands.
of propaganda.
Every individual in a friendity group
develops and increases their experiences
in fraternal bonding.
Without any specialization
and without wanting to impose a method,
let everyone find their way through action.
The structured hierarchical organization
in addition to killing the freedom of individuals
is also more vulnerable to the reaction
of oppression.
It continues on,
but I think you get the point
that the individuals there in Italy are making.
It is not Brett,
or my place to talk about the rightness or the wrongness of these particular actions.
But I think it is important to note, comrades, that our struggles and our pain here in the United States
is shared globally that there are many, many people, many souls who have witnessed carnages
that we have, who have laid down, teary-eyed, thinking about people whose faces they will never
ever see again, pained to walk through those doors and those buildings, or once they heard the
echoes of their voices.
They feel that pain.
And all across the world, the brutality and degradation foisted upon the people by the police
and the capitalist order they represent.
is being fought. There is a war, an unceasing and silent war by the human spirit against all
that wishes to destroy it. It may take many forms. And currently, in Italy, it is taking an extremely
violent form. But it is everywhere. And we, in the United States, must ask ourselves,
where do we fit in this international struggle for liberation and freedom?
Now, me personally, I have my journalism hat on, you know, I'm basically the Chris Hayes of communism,
and so I can't say much. I just think it's extremely interesting what you've said.
I'll leave it at that, and I'll let you say whatever else you have to say,
and we can move on to live calls after that, my friend.
I think everything said like that. I think that ultimately any of that is,
up to everyone there.
We at the guillotine are here to report
and make you aware of the world as it exists.
I say on to live calls.
Let's do it.
How are you feeling, Bones?
Fine, fine.
I'm super glad I didn't drink a shitload of rum.
This time I'm drinking Tito's vodka.
I've upped my game a little bit.
Titos is really fucking good.
We have a deal on it at our local store, so.
I was, I've got some, uh, rum produced out of St. Petersburg, Florida.
Oh, yeah, quite good.
Like, a nice coconut vanillae notes, you know.
Nice.
Nothing quite excites the blood.
Like, uh, oh.
Hi.
Hello.
Hello.
Hey.
It's Prosper gone home.
Woo!
What a!
I finally got through.
I'm so happy.
You collect call to us.
I wanted to talk to Bones about the preparedness aspect
and making anarchist communities
because he and I have talked about that before.
I'm all yours.
So I believe that you and I have talked about getting preparedness
and getting together and making anarchist communities together.
And so I think that we've discussed it a couple times,
But I think that the main thing that would be interesting in forming anarchist communities.
And one of the things that I've had in my experience is that if you want a community that can self-govern,
if you want a community that can come together, then one of the best communities, in my opinion,
simply from living in it, that you can have, is probably a nomadic community.
Now, that's a very hard sell for a lot of people, namely because when you're living in a nomadic community,
you don't really have a job.
You don't really have a way that you can provide an income for your family.
A lot of the jobs that you will get will be worded over you by boozy middle class motherfuckers
that seem to think that they're better than you simply because you're living in an RV
and not in a house.
But in my family's community, it was one of the best ways that we managed to get along
without anybody in our community
plucking with us.
I think that's a 100% valid tactic
and especially in my mind
I like to look at communities and organizations
that have sort of survived the test of time.
I've talked at length about how often
when I look at organizing,
I like to look at criminal organizations,
the Underground Railroad Material Things
and the Romani community.
has been a community that if you really think about it I mean what a great example
because this is a community that has been continually preyed upon and at war at in essence
with the state the state has always treated them like garbage has always hunted them
down and these people have replicated these different tactics and everything's like that
in their community that have kept them alive for generations the nomadic thing I think I
think for a lot of people i don't think i think there's two types of people that are going to hear
that there's a group of people that are going to say if this is what works i'm for it and i think
there's another group of people that are going to take it's going to take a certain amount of
their life going to shit to even think about that um i think especially the way the economy's
going, millennials, you know, we're not
owning our own in our own houses and everything like that.
There is, you have tiny homes
that have, you know, become popular
and everything like that. I think
that is certainly
a tactic and an
open option. And more so
definitely, I think, especially the thing that you drew
attention to that, this sort of community
that that traveling built,
I think that's something that absolutely
needs to be replicated
and needs to be
rebuilt. You know, instead of,
just an affinity group if we've got groups of people around us that we can celebrate that we can
count on if we're hungry is someone that's going to hide us from the police and yes at a certain
point depending on what sort of revolutionary level you're you're at if you're you know especially
one of these diehard people you may want to move around a bit just the other day someone was talking
about getting a group of comrades together to get training with a sailboats and everything like that
and start living on the water because they were never going to be able to afford a house they
wanted to have a sort of freedom of movement.
I think really, we as radicals need to begin putting everything on the table and analyzing,
okay, how can we manage to live the lives that we desire while continually fighting the world around us?
And one of the biggest pitfalls of the Romani community,
and one of the reasons why I can't live in it anymore with my family,
and the reason why we need to look at it, but also we need to look at it,
a pinnacle of what we can accomplish, but we also need to look at it critically.
And the biggest thing about the Romani community that most people don't realize when they're
outside of it is that it's extremely xenophobic, and it's also highly misogynistic as a community.
And so the biggest thing that we need to recognize if we're building these communities ourselves
is that we need to, in some semblance, self-police ourselves so that way we aren't forming
communities like that, communities
that are xenophobic, communities that
won't accept people, communities that seem
to think that women are commodities
to be married off, and
that sort of thing.
And that's one of the biggest things that
I find to be like one
of the problems in almost like anything,
especially anarcho twer. It's just
you have all these different people talking
all over each other at the same time,
and so it's really hard to get groups
of people together that have similar
values, which is why I'm so happy that
I found some comrades in uniqueness.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Brett, you want to jump on to that?
You know, I have my Marxist sympathies.
I really love the idea of reforming that community.
I love the idea of building a community around that basis,
whether it's being nomadic or whether it's just having a tight-knit circle of people existing for one another,
very much speaks to our notion of community organizing.
the sense of providing an alternative to policing. So I'm open to those ideas. I'm very much
of whatever worksists. So if it works in this territory, if it works in that community, I'm all
for it. That's what I look for when I listen to and analyze ideas. And I'm, yeah, I'm down
for whatever. So I love the interesting idea. And I don't have a lot of communication with, you know,
like a lot of the egoist or insurrectionists side of things. So I love learning from you guys.
I think it's interesting.
Well, yeah.
And again, thank you very much.
Reiterating that point that ultimately,
it is up to us to create, you know,
these social circles that aren't trash.
You know, we have to be able,
because remember, a lot of people,
they buy into the state because it's easy, right?
If you have a problem with your neighbor,
rather than get to know your neighbor,
rather than maybe go through a very uncomfortable
situation you pass the buck along it's it's they make living on your knees so easy
it's difficult to stand up and that's what I was going to say like regardless of what your
tendency is everything that's worth having needs to start it needs to start at the at the grassroots
level and build up from there regardless of what your ideas about what the revolutionary
situation should look like or what the means to the ends are it needs to be rooted firmly in the
communities it needs to be rooted in the interests of the people that
that exist on the ground. It cannot be top down. It cannot be bureaucratic. It cannot be
oppressive. Or else we're just, we're redoing the same forms of oppression, the same patterns
of domination that exist today. And we don't want to just do that in a new way. We want to
destroy that and build something better in this world. So I'm totally on board with all of that.
All right. Well, thank you very much. Thank you so much. Bonn for calling in. Greatly appreciated.
And our first successful sort of live call in, everything seemed to work fantastic.
boom. Thank you so much. Solidarity.
Have a good day, guys. You too. You too. Solidarity. Solidarity.
I like to just bark that at people.
All right, yeah, we have a tough time because when people are talking, other people are calling in.
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But right now, we're just kind of flying by the seats of our pants.
That, and it could be witchcraft.
Probably is an option.
You know, that's science.
You know, it's there.
Neil deGrasse Tyson the other day.
Swear to you, he, you know, posted some crazy shit about the Satanic Bible.
No, I wish he did that.
But no.
We have a call.
We have a call.
Hello?
It's that Badger Boy.
Oh, it's Badger Boy.
Digibacking off of the nomadic idea.
You know, to supplement the nomadic communities,
I'm thinking there was like strongholds,
the stronghold as stopover spots for nomadic communities.
What kind of strongholds you talking here?
Build a community base, things like that.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
One of the things that I think we've sort of forgotten in our history is like,
we'll kick it over to Brett's Marxist sympathies here.
What was it?
What was it called?
Like Red St. Petersburg was basically back,
you know, before, back in the beginning
stages of the revolution, when, you know,
Soviet was like actually like a
workers council and all that.
Like, these,
it was an entire city that it sort
of began to run itself.
It was, you know,
organizing, getting everything done.
We have the model in, um,
currently, you know, northern Syria with Riyava,
the cantons and everything like that.
You have the Zapatistas who,
again, the Zapatistas have declared themselves
many, many times that they are not,
an anarchist struggle. They are an indigenous
struggle. That's right.
And so I think worldwide we're
seeing pockets of resistance
and I think it goes right back into what
Brett was saying was start in your community
start building it up
and I think we should have an organic
look of it. Maybe we shouldn't
go into it saying this community has
to do this because this is what
the revolution is going to be. Let's
start with radical
friendship, radical
community leads start building each other up.
Let's start creating areas where you and I and everyone can be free.
And we can take that and sort of begin to spread out across the world.
Because as Brett said, you know, that's what the Black Panthers were doing.
You know, they weren't, the Black Panthers were engaging in a larger revolutionary struggle,
but they weren't forgetting the people on the ground.
Breakfast for Children program.
I mean, what more of a revolutionary goal is there than that?
Right. Yeah. And I would add to that by bringing in, I know, you know, I'm all about left unity and pan-leftism and learning from everyone. I think something that the egoist and insurrectionary anarchist community can learn from Maoism is the notion of a protracted people's war, which is the notion that we're not going to topple the government and take everything over right away. But what we can do is create little pockets of resistance in the system. And like the notion of making cops scared to come in a community.
At the height of the Black Panthers power, the cops were scared to drive into that community
because the Black Panthers were armed, they were organized, they were following them.
If they only had cameras, they would have been recording them.
And the notion of creating communities and strongholds where police and the state are not welcome
and we're building up our own alternative systems is something all leftists can learn from.
And the notion of connecting with your friends, that's what this show is about.
We have Live Collins because we love you.
You know, I was meditating the other day and I suddenly had this overwhelming feeling of love for bones.
I love bones.
I hope one day we can meet and we can hang out and we can drink together because I have a real deep sympathy and love for people that are engaged in this struggle.
And I think that's the beginning of a building block of a better world, that love and that connection with our fellow comrades, no matter what their specific tendency is, we're in the same struggle.
And building from that is, I think, important.
moving things like that
setting things like that up again
since it's been totally dismantled
since the
you know
the golden age of the Black Panthers
it's like stop over
on that underground railroad
you mentioned earlier you know
absolutely
absolutely I think that's one of the great
sort of un
lost to time models
you know the sort of day to day how did these things
function and you know
you know Brett was talking about
you know, this sort of paying leftist to unity.
I have watched and observed from afar, clearly,
the revolutionary organization served the people L.A.
This is a 100% Maoist organization.
There is no deviation there.
Okay.
There is absolutely zero.
In fact, I would go so far as to say I would be regarded as an untrustworthy criminal type
maybe by them.
However, I will say this.
But I am an untrustworthy criminal type, generally everywhere I go.
It's part of being a journalist.
So serve the people in L.A. is a community.
It is a, it is a community that has organized against gentrification.
It is primarily a Latino community.
It's a traditionally working-class neighborhood that begins.
began to sort of be eaten away by these big developers.
They have organized against it.
They have not just organized as in liberal marches and everything like that.
They were going to showing some stuff like that and basically telling these people,
you better get the fuck out of our hood.
Our bad shit's going to happen to you.
Like one real estate tried to do, like, talk about the most hipster, boogey thing ever,
like a bike ride through of like potential properties.
Oh my God.
And serving people, I was like, yeah, yeah, you are not going to be safe.
so I'm just letting you know
if you want to go home
I would not do that
so they've successfully
through very very militant
tactics
kept these people out of their community
but they're not just doing that
they are doing
community functions
they do free food
free entire community
so I mean
this is some
you know this is what real
revolutionary shit looks like folks
you know they're out there
their community knows them
They know them by name.
They're learning what they're about.
They're living their principles.
And it's so easy for us to get up here, and this is a huge problem in the revolutionary community, talk all this good game, but we're not showing people what it looks like.
We haven't shown people what it means to live in the worlds we're talking about.
And I'm telling you, 100%.
And this is one of the biggest successes with the Black Panthers was instead of just talking to people, they created openings and windows for those people to live.
live their own lessons. So rather than say, you need to read this book, then you need to think
about this, then you need to do this, you open up a window and say, here, this is what we're doing,
you come to your own conclusions. And if you create that sort of atmosphere where people can say,
you know what? What do I owe the United States? And you know what? Maybe what do I need the
police for? And wow, maybe these people around me aren't just invisible beings, but they're
fellow struggling human beings like myself. And maybe we can get together and really make something
happen. You know, I saw that during the hurricane. We're seeing that in Puerto Rico. You know,
you give human beings the chance and they're going to do amazing things. So I think there's so
many options and so many different things available. And creating these community strongholds,
stronghold, great word for it. You know, don't just have a community. Have a stronghold.
Something you can depend on. I think is where we need to go. Thank you very much,
Bazar. We have a new call coming in. We have many more episodes everybody can talk.
Thank you so much, dude. Comrade. Solidarity.
Solidarity. I'm just going to yell at it at people.
There you go.
We're waiting for a call. We've had one coming in, but we fucked it up.
I just wanted to add one more thing. In Omaha and Lincoln here, we have a program called Feed the People, where we go into working class, poor, and immigrant communities, and we have comrades that give them food and diaper and goods.
Diapers, you know, shit for their kids, formula. Both, we've expanded from Omaha into Lincoln, so we have both cities doing this.
this right now. It's a great way to reach into those communities, show them that you care,
give them things with no strings attached. We're not missionaries. We're not going to talk about
Marxism or anarchism with you. We're just going to make sure that you and your kids are cared
for. And that's what's important. Another group that I just did an article on is the PRDC
STL. It's a group in St. Louis, that is, they are, originally they were providing security for
leftist and protest groups, but now they've grown larger, and they're providing firearms
training to people who may have never held a gun, who may have never experiencing it,
so they're getting these marginalized communities and people who may have been afraid of gun
ownership and not known all the different ins and outs of self, because I can tell you,
especially as a gun owner, gun ranges suck.
It's full of like the most reactionary people, you're constantly being watched, this, that,
and the other, and so we as leftists need to open up these areas where you can go,
You can learn these defensive skills and not be judged for it.
And so, again, big shout out to the PRDC STL for doing fantastic work.
Fuck, yeah.
We got a new call.
Hello.
Hey, this is Tiberius Grokutts out on left coast.
Woo!
What's up?
No, but when you're calling someone, it helps to turn your mic on.
I swear to God, I'm a professional.
How you doing?
It's doing great out here.
Well, I just wanted to know you guys are talking about, like, revolutionary.
communities and like nomadic communities that kind of thing what that reminds me of is intentional
communities there's a there's a movement going like there are you know essentially communes but
really what they are is they are setting up a community with the intention of a certain goal in
mind like whether it is to live ecologically or whether it is to create a space for a certain amount
of like freedom or whatever it is like you can have these kind of these kind of communities
not just in like a nomadic sense i mean there's there's uh you can have some safety as as a nomadic
tribe that you are very hard to pin down by the state but you also have the problem where
if you're constantly on the move it's very difficult to actually integrate into a community
and be a kind of like a revolutionary nucleus.
So creating a community with a very specific kind of intention,
and usually it's based around some kind of formal or informal constitution
or like a contract kind of thing,
that allows you to like set up,
I know Bones isn't going to like to set up these kind of like social rules.
So these are how we deal with, with troublemakers.
This is how we distribute the resources and labor within the community.
So there was another thing that bones are talking about, Red St. Peter.
There were sections of Vienna, which also had, you know, cooperative housing,
and, you know, really revolutionary socialist communities building up, controlling their own labor, controlling their own work, and these kind of things, and it took a fascist reactionary state, actually ruling in the tanks to, like, actually sending in the military to demolish these spaces to actually take that down, because they were so,
like powerful as, as a tool of, like, propaganda.
Right.
And that's another, like, the dichotomy of whether you are a settled commune
or whether you are a nomadic tribe.
Right.
Where a settled commune can grow very big and very powerful,
but it is in a single place the state can easily get its hands on.
Exactly.
So that's the, that's the needle that you've got to thread with that.
Yeah, and I totally agree, and I think that's the,
You know, the pros and cons.
You can really look at revolutionary Catalonian, the Spanish Civil War, as an example of a community that went autonomous, that took over a territory, and that held it down.
You know, those big banners of no Pasadun, you know, they shall not pass were hung over the, like, structures in the middle of the street so that when the invading Franco army came, they saw right away, like, you had this big sign that say they shall not pass, and then you have these bunkers and these barricades, where all these people are together and they're fighting against the fascists.
So there are pros and cons.
I very much, you know, my sympathies lie in the direction of communities building up and building.
out. So if you can lock down a territory and say this is our shit, you'll attract revolutionary
leftists to come to it. You'll have a certain rule and guidelines of how people are expected
to behave. You start providing your own services. That's dual power. That's taking inside the
belly of the beast, taking territory and building up a revolutionary movement inside the belly
of the beast. So I really love that. I really enjoy that. The Zapatistas are another example of
how taking over territory and expanding from that stronghold can be a really effective way
of growing a movement and attracting people to that movement because as bones was alluding to
earlier we're not going to get regular working class people on our side by going to them
and talking highfalutin theory they need to see with their own two eyes that what we're building
in practice is better for them and their interests in reality in real time than it is to
participate in the overarching structure.
So we can only get so far with theory.
We have to put it into practice.
And building up revolutionary communities
is something I think all leftists
can agree on that is a necessary thing to do.
I think there's room
because one of the things that is interesting
is after Catalonia fell, right?
A lot of people got out of the country
through these informal networks,
safe houses that may not have been
officially owned.
of one of the things that's interesting was that the war continued for a little while by these
small groups of illegalists, one of the most famous being El Sabate, who was this guy who was
pretty much just blowing the heads off of landlords and priests in the middle of Francois Spain.
And this guy, just his mere name inspired so much fear in the police and landlords and everything
like that.
You could chase them out.
A whole class of criminals existed just to pretend to be this guy.
And so in a lot of these revolutionary moments where maybe they collapsed or they didn't work out as a plan, it was these informal networks of comrades that were connected by this sort of radical friendship that said, look, if you're in trouble, I got you. I may not own this house, but I know a guy and you can stay there this time. It's much like what I find so interesting is, especially in the United States, the underground railroad, right? This was an informal organization that had no hierarchical head. And yet, and yet, it was.
able to smuggle people, human beings, feed them, clothe them, bring them, travel them from the
deep south all the way up to Canada. They did this without an internet connection. They did this
without cell phones. Very, very primitive technology. Now, I don't know about you, Brett, but I don't
know anybody that could successfully smuggle my ass to Canada right now. I don't know. I don't know
anybody that could do that. But these people were able to pull that off. And so I think,
absolutely, I agree that we should, you know, establish strong communities, you know, seize the land
if you got it. And one of the things that, you know, I've, because I've talked about this before,
a lot of people, oh, well, we're working class, we can't, you know, necessarily buy property.
Well, you know, one of the things that I point people to is the Bloods and the Crips don't necessarily
own a lot of property. And yet at the same time, they seem to control it. So you may not necessarily
own outright the land you're under. But,
If you can control enough power, just like in Boyle Heights, they're not stopping gentrification by buying the buildings, right?
They are physically telling these people, you are not going to do it.
Otherwise, it'll be bad for you.
I think that I'm interested to see where the revolutionary movement goes to the United States.
I think there's going to be a certain group of people that may have a more nomadic structure.
there's a certain group of people that may have a more community function and I think most interesting is and as has been brought up in this call you know it's uh it's so easy for these people to get isolated because they are new people in the communities they go into um I think what would be great would be a healthy interplay of the forces you'd have a group of people that may travel in the south in the south there's a tradition of what they used to call circuit writers and they were the
these preachers that, like, had no home, and they just kind of ran these circuits, and they
pretty much depended upon the hospitality of the towns they were in. And so they would have
these sort of lines, like, it would take a whole year, but you'd visit, like, what, like 36, 48
different towns, preaching, whatever, whatever. Okay, what if we had a network of intentional communities
and intentional communities 100 percent, yes, that is what we need. We need to go into these
communities with the idea that we are founding revolutionary structures.
And what if you had a skill?
Let's say 3D printing.
We would love for you to tour these communities.
Don't just keep your skills in one community.
Show everybody.
Show us how to set.
If you know how to set up solar panels, if you know how to do, you know, if you're really good at organic gardening,
you should seek to teach other radicals and other revolutionaries and especially any other
burgeoning communities, those skills. And so I think a healthy interplay of nomadic and sedentary forces
would be beautiful. And again, at that point, you are creating a full-blown culture.
Yeah. Yeah. Thank you very much for your call. Bones, what do you think? One more call and then
we're done? Yeah. One more. Probably, probably a quick one. If we could just have one question,
I've been pretty much keeping myself going on no food, beer, and rum. That's what I'm worried about.
but thank everybody that calls we really appreciate it
sometimes we have to cut it off
just because it's the function of how we do this
so people could call up kind of condense their comment
or their question and then just maybe we just let us talk
and then we'll take the next call be really helpful
but yeah we'll take one more really quick
and then we'll let bones go
because I know he's pressed against the wall on this one
you haven't eaten all day have you?
I think I had like an English muffin
but nothing on it Jesus
yeah and I work
worked 5 a.m. to 4. Jesus.
Well, for anybody that
wants to feed bones, we have a Patreon,
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kinks, but one more call?
Hi. Hi. Hello.
Hello.
Hi, it's Lorena
from Brazil. Wow, from
Brazil. What's up? Oh, shit.
How are you doing? Lorraine has been
a Rev. Left fan from Dave fucking
one. A great comrade and somebody that we've actually formed a friendship over the
yeah. I'm sorry my internet connection is not the best and also I'm not very
sober right now. Neither are we. Don't worry we're getting there. Yeah I have a
question for y'all. My question is in two parts. The first one is like you were all talking
about building this community from the ground and at the same time the
struggle the organization that I'm in here in Brazil we work very
differently than what would be happening there in the US I'm quite sure these
things also happen here in Brazil I'm just probably not aware of it but the
The thing is, you guys said something about not preaching Marxism or barcooning to people and, you know, building it from the ground.
And I totally agree with that.
But my problem is when you establish, like, a militia-like state, like the state of exception.
You become something like you see in the favelas here in Brazil, you know,
because you have entire communities with, who controls it is the drug dealers.
And the police is not welcome there.
They do not go there.
But, of course, they have a deal with them.
But they have no revolutionary theory.
So they are just.
drug dealers it could be like a huge project of communities that they have the
trust and everyone there is like a very strong community against police against
even abuse that happens inside but still they are just they are a structure of
drug dealers when they could have been
very revolutionary if they had persisted in their revolutionary jury.
But I think I rambled a bit out.
No, yeah, no.
I think that's 100% valid critique.
And I think especially what I find interesting is the favelas in Brazil were brought up specifically
in a Pentagon video regarding their theories of the future.
And basically the Pentagon said, look, by the year 2050,
most modern cities will be totally ungovernable.
They used Brazil specifically as a model to where you had these large sort of nests of wealth
and then people living in favelas and to where the gangs on the street were the law.
And what's interesting is that the Pentagon, okay, now this is the most highly funded military
in the world on the planet in human history.
And they're saying, we can't control it.
There is no way that we can control the cities of the future.
And so basically they're creating all these sort of tactics and theories,
like how we're going to use special operations.
So I think, unfortunately, some of the...
From the drug dealers in the room.
Like, really.
Their Brexit is something to be learned from.
Exactly. Ding, ding, ding.
Yes, yes.
And that's exactly what I'm saying.
We are revolutionaries.
Okay.
And I think especially as Bonn, our first caller said, you know, we have got to make sure that
we're creating communities where there isn't sexism, where there isn't racism, where
we aren't just a militia claiming territory and, you know, laying back and saying, oh,
boy, I get to walk around with an M16.
Isn't this fun, guys?
No.
We're in this for something.
And you are absolutely right that here are literal examples where, yeah, the, you know,
government can't control these areas. It just can't. And in my mind, in my mind, especially
when we have the Pentagon saying, look, 2050 cities across the planet, uncontrollable, we're
going to have to rely on special forces and strike teams because we just can't control these
areas. Look, folks, my question is, who do you want to control it? Because there's a power vacuum
coming. Okay. Now, it can either be us, revolutionaries, interested in egalitarianism, freedom,
expression creativity
or you could have
the white nationalist militias
who are buying land
guns doing all these different things
or you could just literally
whoever happens to be the strongest force
and whatever the hell they want
I think you're absolutely right
it's something we have to
what's the word bookchin used like a paraloquialism
peri I don't know yeah
xenophobia is a great word for it
where it's like okay our neighborhood above everybody else
fuck everybody else. We want to get away from that.
But you're absolutely right, caller, that
we have so
much to learn from, at least on a
total praxis level. Okay, how
do these people work on a day-to-day
basis? Radicals need to be looking
towards that sort of organizing and pulling lessons
while maintaining our sort of
revolutionary coherency.
Any last words, Lorena?
Yeah.
I just wanted to say
hi to you all.
I really like your work, and I hope you have a great evening.
Thank you. You too.
We love you. Thank you.
Have a great night.
Yeah. I'll say that Lorena was one of the first fans of Rev. Left Radio,
and after the Charlottesville attack, Lorena,
messaged me through the Reveleft Radio page and showed concern about my children,
and I've mentioned it a lot since then.
It was the first listener ever that was like, I hope your kids.
are okay. And for that, I'll always love Lorena, somebody that cared enough to message me
asking about my children. It brought me to tears when I read that. I'll just say quickly that,
you know, capitalism creates the spaces for black markets to arise, the alienation that
leads people to seek out drugs and the rise of cartels and, you know, money laundering and crime
syndicates is very much a manifestation of capitalism. It's very hard to deal with those
situations when they own and operate communities. They're very entrenched. They're in some sense
maybe better than the state or worse than the state, depending on where you're at. But we need to
get armed. We need to get organized and we need to carve out our own spaces. And if that means
kicking out the cops or if that means kicking out the gangs or if that means kicking out the
mafia, whatever it may be, that's one thing. Or forming our own. Yeah, or forming our own. And in a lot
cases the gangs, you know,
in poor parts of cities
are just a reaction to a
capitalist fucking dystopia
and selling drugs is the only
economic activity that exists in those societies.
Although I...
You want to say when the revolution comes, I still
want drugs. Oh, please God.
Let me be very clear. I still want drugs.
Mushrooms and acid and marijuana, preferably are...
God damn, right? I'm seeking out those drugs,
God damn.
So, yeah, maybe in some cases, we
can form alliances with these
street gangs because they're the proletariat, you know, Mark's called them the lumpen proletariat,
people that are forced to adhere to criminal activity in order to get by. And if we wipe out
those conditions that give rise to that criminal behavior and give rise to the chaos and, you
know, violence that's our inherent in cartels and street gangs, we can form alliances with
those people because they are of those communities in a lot of cases. So, yeah, and it's
complicated. Like I said, I think we're coming towards a power vacuum and focus.
look it's coming as we discuss tonight the world is changing it's changing right in front of your eyes
it's happening faster and faster and faster and faster and your future is slowly disappearing
now what are you going to invest in do you want to pour your money in a 401k in a shaky stock
market or do you want to invest in a group of comrades in a community and do you want to
in the process of fighting the same system that is actively destroying you,
discover a life and discover a life that makes you feel like life is worth living.
That's the goal, folks.
And I think we have had a fantastic episode.
Now, if you don't excuse me, Brett, I'm about to literally piss in a beer.
If I don't step away from this, Mike, I've been holding on
because I do not want two podcasts where I literally piss on air in a beer can.
All right, brother.
Bad form.
Go piss, man.
Good night, everyone.
Thank you so much for calling.
Good night, everybody.
It's been great.
Solidarity.
Goalty.
Geotene.
Guantin.
Guantin.
The guillotine is a beautiful machine.
Sharp and blade starts before the blood of king.
Fuck a wall I want heads to roll.
We'll make a mountain out a fashion stone.
Draw a line of the sand right now, clear and bowl.
Analysis is sharp as the blade of a guillotine.
Cut through the lives and tell you on the TV screen
Shine the light of the revolution for all to see
History will show us where the process leads
Necks of the rich and powerful death it for
for the key I'm time