REWILD + FREE - Creating Anyway: Even When You're Allergic to Structure + Sensitive to Rejection

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

I’m sharing what it actually feels like to be in a creative season where nothing feels linear, my nervous system is sensitive, and I keep bumping up against the part of me that wants to throw in the towel.If you’re someone who’s also sensitive, quietly rebellious, allergic to rigid structure, or just plain tired of pretending the creative process is clean, consistent, and “high vibe” all the time, then this one's a love letter for you.I talk about:Coming out of a burnout wave and rebuilding trust with my own rhythmThe energy rollercoaster of the past month and what’s helped regulate meThe magic of co-regulating with people I trust and how momentum can be contagiousNavigating rejection sensitivity and the fear that I’m “too much” or “too inconsistent” to be understoodWhy the mess almost always comes before the clarityMy creative process as a neurodivergent mama who craves structure but also resists it deeplyLetting ideas crumble and reconfigure, like building block towers with my toddlerLearning not to run someone else’s race, and instead trusting my pace, even when it’s slow or weird or differentWhy I believe missed shots in business don’t mean anything about ME If you’re in a tender season, stuck in the swirl of too many ideas, grieving a past offer that didn’t land, or questioning your pace, I hope this episode feels like a soft exhale. You’re not behind. You’re just building something honest that probably looks more like web, instead of a ladder! As always, I'd love to hear what stirs or lands for you in this conversation. Send me an unscripted voice note on IG (@nicolepasveer) and let me know! LINKS: All current offerings can be found here:  https://www.nicolepasveer.com/servicesLet's be Pen Pals! Join my email list: https://nicolepasveer.kit.com/penpals Mentioned in this episode:Join The Reset Room Join the Reset Room, my FREE *almost* weekly drop-in on zoom to nourish your nervous system. Use the link below to opt in to get notified when the next one’s happening!

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This is the go-to podcast for conscious and holistic entrepreneurs who are ditching societies to-do list for intentional living, freedom, and abundance. If we haven't met yet, I'm Nicole Pasvier. I'm an ex-norses, turn metressence guide, and business coach, leading women just like you into the new paradigm.

Keep listening. ready to unsubscribe from patriarchal motherhood, bro-marketing, and boss babe culture. Because in this space, we use nature as our framework as we move towards feminine embodied business development, cyclical orientation, and slow living. Together, let's rewild and remember as we break free from survival and reconnect to what truly matters. Okay, friend, steep your tea and take the most loving breath you've given to yourself today, and let's go. Hello, hello, what is up i am recording from my bed today i had a really nice easeful morning very little on my to-do list today actually that's why i just feel like i have a lot on my to-do list today but i'm i'm procrastinating

all of it and the things that i've done today and coming here to record in bed sound way more fun so here we are I took myself for a run after I dropped off Aubrey at daycare this morning, and oh my goodness, long story short, I've identified as being a runner basically for as long as I can remember. Back in junior high, I competitively did track and field, I loved running. But what I want to name here is that I have, you know, kind of shifted my relationship to exercise and moving my body since I became a mom almost four years ago. I remember early postpartum I was really challenging myself to not fall into bounce back culture and I didn't want to rush back into my body looking a certain way and I really wanted to follow any natural

nudges and desires that came for me when I actually came time to wanting to move my body. I wanted it to be intuitive and just yeah kind of guided by what felt right not like what I should do and so running really never became a part of the pitcher until about two years postpartum and then I had that desire again and yeah this would have been like two summers ago it's really excited to get back into it maybe a little bit naive too because I ended up going too far too hard and injuring myself pretty early on. It's funny because I even like technically hired like a low key like running coach who specialized in postpartum and um you know I did all the things. This is probably a mirror for other aspects of my life where like you think you're doing all the things and it still doesn't

really work for you and then you begin to just internalize while something's wrong with me because I followed the strategy and it's not working in a new way. So yeah that was two years ago. thought I was doing all the right things. I didn't run every day. I had breaks and in between I was doing strength exercises and stuff and other conditioning, but I still ended up injuring myself and ultimately not actually continuing with running. And so it's been basically two years since then. And this entire summer, August at the time of recording this, and so this entire summer, I've been wanting to get back into running. I've had that very loud, natural desire. And there's been a really big part of me that has been fearful of injuring myself again and not

really having trust in myself knowing when is too much. And I know that I also likely need to get better footwear. And there's a whole thing with that where I don't want to spend money on new shoes. I don't want to go shopping for new shoes. Every part of me just wishes I could go text a friend who I know also runs and say, hey, what runners do you recommend? But I know that I can't do that. her answer is probably isn't going to be the right type of runner for me. And again, that probably is like a mirror and a metaphor for something else. I mean, in business, right? We can be so quick to like, oh, what are you doing? Let me try that. And like, we can't just take someone else's strategy and expect it to perfectly fit for us. We have to go try things on and tie the laces up and realize,

no, this doesn't actually feel quite right. Let me try something else. And, you know, there's just more nuance there and we're all individual and have unique needs and all of that. Anyways, so finally, it's August and I kind of had a serious talk with myself earlier this week of Kate Nicole, you keep saying that you want to run, you identify, or at least you used to identify as being a runner, you are the only thing in the way of going for a run. And so put my old shoes on and took myself out and really allowed it to be an intuitive experience. for me. And today was my second time going out and I took myself down to the forest and it was just beautiful. It wasn't about, you know, timing or measuring anything. I was just feeling my body and I was

slowing down when I needed to slow down and I was just being really mindful of how my body and my strength and my balance was feeling and breathing into things. And it honestly felt like this meditative experience and I'm really proud of myself I'm really proud of myself like it's not there's a part of me that is like yeah obviously I would love my body to feel stronger I would love to you know feel I guess like fit again because I don't necessarily feel that way and also like I'm really proud of myself for approaching and showing up to running as I don't know just something more energetic and intuitive and less about what the outcome is. And so all of this to say that I started my day with a morning run after I dropped Aubrey off. And so that felt really great. And then I ended up having

a shower after, which is very out of the norm for me. I'm usually a nighttime shower, shower. And then I usually put my hair up in heatless curls or whatever they're called and sleep in that overnight. So today I'm sitting here with like wet hair letting it air dry we'll see we'll see what I end up doing with it but that feels very unfamiliar because this is just outside of my normal routine and yeah like I said everything that's actually on my to-do list I don't feel like doing and you know it can wait and likely what I've kind of found is like a lot of that stuff sometimes just disappears the longer that I put things off it doesn't actually become something that I want to do anymore and I know there's privilege in me saying that, but it's just a funny situation. And so anyways,

I'm coming here to record because that's what feels alive. And I want to talk about, I want to talk about a couple things. I want to talk about just like the messy, vulnerable side of creation that I feel like not a lot of people are talking out loud about. All we ever see is the end result of someone's creation process. And that really does teeter us into internalizing, oh, well, what's wrong with me? Why can't I do what she's doing? So I want to talk about that. I also want to talk about like the grief and disappointment that sometimes is showing up when you are creating something new and you are reflecting on all of the past experiences that didn't necessarily have the outcome you desired and how that can interfere with being present in your, in your current

creation, whether it's like a new offer or a project. I'm specifically kind of, of talking about this through like a business lens and talking about new offers, whether it's a whole like group or a workshop or a class or whatever it is, right? That's what I'm talking about here. But I have a feeling this could be the threads here could be pulled onto any other creative project as well. And then I also want to name just how I've been softening into my own cycles, my own pace, my own neurodivergence, and recognizing that, again, there's probably metaphors here with running, because recognizing that I, I really love to sprint. I can hyper-focus on certain things, and then after that, like, I just marinate in bed. And for the longest time,

I would shame myself for that cycle, because on paper, it doesn't necessarily look like it's sustainable. And I feel like if you're in enough different corners of the internet, that that are talking about sustainability and how to become consistent and like structure and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that is never what they recommend. And I'm starting to learn that that makes sense because it's not linear and everything that the world wants us to be is linear. So it's very countercultural to trust that kind of pace. And with that, there's softening into what my own version of consistency looks like, softening into what I call, like rhythms instead of routines, softening into this idea of devotion instead of discipline. And then also I want to talk about the rejection sensitivity side of neurodivergence.

This is absolutely something that I face and I struggle with and I can't speak for anybody else. I mean, I'm going to assume that whether you are neurodivergent or not, whether you identify or been diagnosed, like kind of that actually matters. I'm going to assume that it's not even about your neurotype, I think all humans face this in some way, right? And it has to do with also like a fear of being perceived and a fear of being misunderstood. And yeah, there's just that heightened sensitivity. And I have experienced that for basically as long as I can remember. And so I'm really becoming a bit more curious and compassionate when I'm witnessing it show up in myself. and witnessing how it layers into the creative process and how it layers into being an entrepreneur because it's absolutely affecting how I show up. It's absolutely affecting my pace too because it's potentially slowing me down because of that fear of rejection. I also want to name that like rejection just as a whole, there's actually no, I'm going to put a pin on that because no, I'm going to say it because I'll forget if I don't say it.

Rejection of a whole can really be seen as an opportunity for realignment, right? Like it's not, again, this is where it's really important to stop internalizing that rejection and to neutralize it, and it gets to be an opportunity for redirection and realignment. It's also potentially a illumination of where you are fearing abandonment. It can uncover and illuminate some old abandonment wounds where, you know, you have had to act a certain way and be a certain somebody in order to feel loved and accepted. And you might be thinking, like, well, what the fuck does this have to do with offer creation and entrepreneurship? But it does because we are all showing up to our businesses with our fragile sensitive nervous systems and our fragile and sensitive nervous systems. are operating off of past experiences and past traumas and things that go beyond our own lifetime. And that gets really, really complicated, right? This fear of abandonment is really

interesting because what I've seen in myself and what I see in other people is we potentially jump ship on our own offers, something that we're genuinely really excited about because that fear of rejection that fear of being abandoned by someone else is so strong that it actually feels safer and easier to just abandon it ourselves so jump ship because we feel like we can actually hold that disappointment and tend to ourselves in that moment it feels easier to handle than potentially someone else jumping ship for us and it gets really really complex so anyways let's zoom in on some of these things so i also want to give context for just like where i am in my own season of life and my own season of business i um the past couple months quite

honestly i've been teetering into burnout and i don't even love that language but i i think it's the closest word to kind of describe what i've been experiencing and i can also say that like that burnout has mostly been triggered by like life and motherhood. And so as much as I want to compartmentalize it and be like, I don't want this to impact my business, it absolutely does, because these things can't be compartmentalized. And so again, just holding myself in this season with compassion the past couple months, yeah, the past couple months, there's just been a lot of I don't know. I just feel like it's been intense. And so my energy gets pulled in a lot of different directions and then um yeah i think burnout we often hear people making it seem like it's

something to suppress or something to avoid or i feel like in the coaching spaces it's like how do you do this without burning out how do you create like a burnout free business and i love it i love that intention and also, I think, burnout, just like any other thing that our body and our nervous system does is just communication. And so it's not something actually demonize. It's not something to ignore. It's not something to avoid. It's communication. And there's wisdom there. And so when we actually lean into burnout, there's a lot of wisdom. There's a lot of clarity that can come from that. And that's absolutely what I've experienced the past couple of months. I've been leaning. into my burnout and gleaning the wisdom that it has to offer me and trusting myself to make

different choices and disrupt certain patterns because that's ultimately what it's been showing me. And I want to say, again, a lot of people talk about burnout and talk about like, oh, there's all these things that you have to do to build your capacity back up and you have to like take better care of yourself. And it's often like a sign of like you, you overdid it. you ignored something you you you did something wrong it's always like you you you you not you're you you not you not eating the right things externally that are happening but it comes back down to you and you're not having the right boundaries or you're not you're not taking care of yourself you're not sleeping enough you're not eating the right things and that's why you're burnt out

and it's not that simple right things are never that simple i kind of see it like cycles and seasons in our life like I think for many of us we used to you know try to shame and suppress our bleed our menstruation and again there's wisdom there when we lean into it or even you know seasons of winter and rest like society really hasn't taught us how to how to function in seasons of slowness and we've we've all kind of been taught that rest is a reward and it's something that you have to earn and so it can be really uncomfortable to actually soften into that season and i see burnout like that too it's something that society has taught us is bad it's also something that um the wellness industry gets the profit off of and that's a whole other conversation but

just putting this bug in your ear that what if burnout is actually something to embrace what if burnout is actually something to lean into and so when it's that's kind of what i've been experienced the past couple months and I feel like I'm coming out of burnout more recently in the last month or so and just like when you're coming out of winter there's that awkward thaw freeze cycle that happens like late winter early spring it's clumsy it's awkward it's messy I feel like I'm experiencing the same thing coming out of burnout right it's it's nonlinear it's it's opportunity to rebuild trust with myself because my energy constantly feels like a roller coaster. Some days I'm like, oh my God, I'm feeling like a million bucks again. This feels so good. My mood is high. My motivation is there. I have this desire and drive

to, you know, just do things again. And also, I might wake up the very next day and literally feel apathetic and hopeless and like low-key, depressed and anxious again. And so really riding that roller coaster with compassion and not gaslighting my experience throughout it. And so that's where I've been the past month is on that roller coaster, having days where I feel amazing, having days where I'm feeling so creative, like, to the point of like, I don't even know what to do with all of this creative energy and then the next day almost crashing, except I don't actually see it as crashing anymore. And so it's learning to ask myself really each moment like how much energy do I actually have today and how can I meet this and trust this for

today and letting tomorrow be completely different and yeah it's just a tender dance so that's kind of where I've been the other piece that I want to name here is the impact of like co-regulation and community and we know this right we know this we know how important it is to be around people and be in relation and specifically what I want to pull on with this like co-regulation and community piece is how when you are coming out of a season of burnout or coming out of, you know, even just like a season of rest, a season of winter, or maybe on a more micro level, like you're coming into your follicular phase and you're done bleeding and there's just that tender, wobbly energy, it can be so impactful to basically borrow someone else's energy, borrow their creative spikes,

borrow their motivation. And that can be through like a conversation with a friend, that can be. be through reading a book and letting the book inspire you. That could be through listening to a podcast and really just opening yourself up to being inspired by someone else's work, by someone else's creation. I feel like there's a book. I feel like it's, yeah, what, steal like an artist? There's a book that talks about this and how, yeah, it's not actually talking about like burnout or anything like that, but talking about how we are constantly creating from someone else's creation. And it really helps you soften into that fear of like, oh, am I stealing their

idea? Or like, did I actually come up with this or did it come from someone else? Like, the truth is is we are all just like scaffolding off of each other. So this is a tool that I lead into in those moments of like wobbliness and um i'm not using this to force myself into being creative but i'm using it to just kind of zoom in on that energy when i'm feeling that urge come back how can i yeah just like center and anchor it so yeah this this co-regulation and community piece is is really really helpful especially when you're doing it with people that are like-minded and have similar values to when you are holding a similar vision um it's like creative pollination and i i really love it so uh that's been a part of this too lauren and i have been co-creating a couple different

projects right now and so that's been a beautiful anchor for me to weave in and out of obviously i'm doing my own stuff but in the moments where things are wobbly i can anchor into her energy and her devotion and borrow some of that. So that's been really fun to witness in myself this season. I also said that I would talk about grief and past disappointment because that's huge. So I think specifically I want to zoom in on the creative project that Lauren and I have just completed. We just did an entire mini training called metrescence in the nervous system. And this is specifically for birth workers and perineal therapists and coaches and mother circle facilitators and really anyone that is a spaceholder or care provider for mothers and we really wanted to bridge this

gap that we've been seeing around these two concepts and it's important to name that like these two concepts for both of us have been not just like a professional thing for us to dive into and witness and experience, but also deeply personal. We're both mothers. We're both literally navigating this stuff in real time. And so in the creation process, that particular project just snowballed and got so beautifully big that we constantly had to come back to our intention and remind ourselves that this is just one class. This isn't supposed to be some ginormous course. And so how can we refine? How can we really simplify this? And also hold the integrity of what the intention is. And our intention always, always, always comes back

to bringing nuance into the conversation. And so how do we bring nuance without overgeneralizing and all of these things? And anyways, like what kept happening was the project itself would get really big. We'd work on it. And we'd think, oh, my God, like, this is just getting too big, too hard. Like, we should just throw in the towel. And again, it was the fact that we were doing things together that really helped us to keep going, but it was also the fact that we had a really clear intention of what we wanted this to be. And we kept reminding ourselves that, like, the bigness of this gets to be broken down in chunks. And, like, any time it felt too big, we had to remind ourselves that we are in control of how big of a bite we're taking. Right? And I want to reflect that

back to you. When something is beginning to feel too big, you are in control of, like, how much you're actually taking on. You get to shift the way that that creative project is evolving. And maybe that means blowing the pace. Maybe it means pressing pause on one piece of it and saving it for a different season. Maybe it means letting this kind of just be like a tease or like a, I don't know, right? There's so many different things that can kind of come from that. But what also kept coming is the grief and disappointment of past offers, past workshops that maybe didn't have the outcome that we wanted. And this gets to be different. And even though we have all this evidence on our entrepreneurial resume of like what didn't work, we also have so much evidence and like data of what does work and what we do.

And so it's just this opportunity to constantly be leaning into that. And again, holding space for the grief and the disappointment as it comes up because there's a real, right? We don't want to gaslight that feeling, but it's almost like, it's almost like letting the grief move instead of letting it calcify into self-doubt. Like, what is that grief actually serving? What is it there to protect you from and, you know, acknowledging that protector part of you and then tending to it?

And again, there's a lot of like nervous system attunement and nervous system support that naturally comes into all of this. And so that was kind of where the embodiment piece of like, how are we actually in relationship to our own nervous systems as we're literally creating a training about the nervous system. And this applies to not just this specific offer. Like I basically experience this wave of grief and past disappointment in everything I create. and it could very easily derail something that I want to do because of that fear of like I don't want to feel disappointed again and also if I let that run the show

if I let that part of me drive the bus I would never be able to keep moving forward so it's kind of that question of like who's driving your bus in that moment and can you allow that part of you that is feeling the grief and the disappointment to still have a seat but just not give them the driver's seat And this is where I also like to ride what I call the best case scenario train because it's human nature to want to ride the worst case scenario train. Again, we do that to protect ourselves and our nervous systems are obviously constantly on the lookout for threat and wanting to, you know, just protect ourselves from perceived danger. But when we ride that best case scenario train, it really opens us up to possibility and curiosity.

and I've talked about this in a previous episode where curiosity is such a soothing balm for our nervous systems. It just cascades the perfect hormonal cocktail for us to land into a more relaxed and connected state where creativity does get to flow. And so that like best case scenario train is is really, really powerful. And it's also, like, I see this in my toddler, like, kids. Like, they, they are constantly thinking about all of, like, the best case possibility. Like, you tell them that you're going somewhere and then they're, they're wondering what's going to be there. You're told that you get to go to Disneyland. And then you think about all the best case possibilities that might happen to. You might get to ride this ride and you might get to

see Mickey Mouse and you might experience this, that, right? Like, it's, it's, it's that, like, innocent, limitless possibility energy that kids model for us so well. And we need to tap into that energy. We need to bring that innocence and that curiosity and that wonder back into our lives. So zooming back into when the project becomes something that feels so big and, you know, sometimes the easy solution would be to just like tap out and abandon ship. I already mentioned the rejection sensitivity in that and like that deeper wound around abandonment but what I relate this to again thinking about Aubrey my almost four-year-old like when we're building a block tower together in order to create another block tower you have to let those blocks tumble down right

you have to let them fall apart and be a mess on the floor before you can put it back together And I see that so clearly in creation as well. Like we have to let things crumble. We have to let things fall away in order to bring things back together. I feel like it's like when you're cleaning out your drawer, like you have to take everything out of the drawer before you can actually organize and put it back together. And that moment where everything is just sprawled out around you on the floor

and you're hit with overwhelm and like, oh my God, I don't actually want to deal with this anymore. this is feeling too big, too intense. I think we all experience that in our really big, beautiful, creative endeavors as well. We hit that point of like, oh my God, I don't think I can do this anymore. I don't think I can't hold this. I can't see this coming together again. And also, if you stay with it, it almost always does, right?

It almost always does. The only way that it doesn't come back together is if you jump ship in that moment. there's also something to be said about action bringing clarity right the clarity doesn't come from just spiraling around like oh how am i going to do this the clarity doesn't come from like asking other people well how did you do this right the clarity comes from you doing the thing and that's also how we build trust with ourselves right that's how we ultimately build that sense of self-trust that i think is what we're all actually looking for when we say we're looking for clarity we're actually looking for self-trust. The final piece that I wanted to talk about here is fear of being too much or too

all over the place or too confusing. I know I experience this often because I'm constantly pulling on so many different threads in my life and in my business and there's almost this elevator hum fear of like, am I confusing people? And, you know, if I'm really honest, like, I probably am because I move around a lot and the algorithm isn't necessarily supporting me or keeping up with my pace. I get two things. It takes a billion times for someone to see something like that sales psychology statistic like seven times or something before people buy like that's coming into play and then it's also the algorithm. People aren't necessarily seeing things even though I'm posting them. So sometimes it feels like I'm moving faster than the algorithm.

can actually meet me at. And that's just something that I need to kind of make peace with and, you know, choose if I want to continue using, say, social media as a marketing tool, how can I, yeah, use it to actually be supportive for me? So that fear of being confusing, that fear of, am I pulling too many threads, am I diluting my message because I'm being human and being multifaceted? And obviously no, but it often feels that way and what can happen here is that fear can ultimately make me want to jump ship that fear can make me bite my tongue and tensor myself because well i already talked about this like i don't want to appear like i'm also like selling this at the same time or whatever that looks like right

like i know i've caught myself where i have this post or something that i want to say online i'm like oh no i can't say that today because i already met my quota for how many times i've asked you people for money. And it's so funny to say that out loud because that's obviously not actually what's going on. And, you know, people, nobody is as invested in the things that we are posting as much as we are. And so sometimes it does feel like you are almost getting too loud or getting too repetitive or changing your mind too often. But truthfully, like, nobody fucking cares. And I'm constantly having to remind myself, like the people that are noticing, it's likely not annoying them and I think if people are confused hopefully they might ask or you know

they will um search deeper for the answers as opposed to just I don't know right like it gets to be a little bit more nuance than sometimes we we make it to be in our minds and I think I think there's something really beautiful to anchor into allowing your offers your creations to be a web instead of a ladder. That's something that I've really been choosing to see my business ecosystem as, right? I am weaving a web. I am not building a ladder. And in the mainstream business talk around like funnels and stuff like that.

And for, I know a lot of you, like, they feel gross or like maybe you have them in place and you don't even have the language for like why things don't quite feel right. But it's potentially because you're building this ladder and you're cutting yourself all from your full human multifaceted expression. And so I don't know if I have anything super wise here to say, but you know, like you're not confusing. You're complex. And that gets to be your magic. I'm speaking to myself when I say that, right? Like I think that fear of confusing people is the symptom of capitalism and patriarchy and this like linear growth mindset that really isn't serving anyone. So, yeah. This rejection sensitivity that I know is especially prevalent in

people that are neurodivergent, there was something that I learned recently in a neurodivergent entrepreneur summit. One of the conversations was around selling, I'm going to totally butcher this, but I really love the metaphor. So I want to try to share it. The metaphor was like playing basketball. And so if getting a basket, like shooting a goal, a score, whatever it's called a goal, shooting a goal, if that's the sale, but each time we miss the net, we internalize it as that means there's something wrong with us, we're never going to keep showing up to try to shoot the ball, right? We're never going to throw the ball again. But if we actually think about selling as this entire basketball court where you know there's different passes that needs be made, there's different plays. Sometimes the ball goes out of bounds. Sometimes it just hits the rim. Sometimes someone else gets it, right? Like it really neutralizes selling. And I just really loved that metaphor and remind ourselves that like it's not just about the outcome. It's all the different moving parts to even get there. And I know I've talked about this. too where like selling is serving like being in a restaurant like people sit down they need a menu before they can order they also need you to come take the order right there's all these different

steps and so just thinking about all those moving pieces in your business and where where you're potentially internalizing your own self-worth in all of them and this honestly has a lot of the work that I do with clients, this is a lot of the stuff that we can weave in in a live session is recognizing like what's keeping you stuck or giving you little hiccups in your creation process and how can you move through just the internalized gunk that comes up because it's all real, it's all valid. And also if we are just showing up to our businesses from a state of dysregulation and from like our wounded parts, then we're never going to feel. fulfilled and satisfied like it's never actually going to feel good to be in relationship with our

business so all of this needs are our tender love and compassion and attention it's not stuff to just suppress or avoid or hope that one day it just goes away because it does it it doesn't go away it just shows up in new levels i think i'm gonna i'm gonna leave it there