RHAP: We Know Survivor - Anika Dhar on Club Condo Survivor 48 Ep 4

Episode Date: March 24, 2025

Rob Cesternino and Chappell dive into episode 4 of Survivor 48 with special guest, Survivor 47's Anika Dhar!

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Rob, I'm good, I'm good. I'm in a club condo mood today. Let's get into some mess. Let's talk about the episode. Let's really just have our moment because I've been on social media this week and I've been seeing that everyone is loving these most recent episodes of Survivor.

Yeah, it's been a fun season and it's a great time to bring in a guest from survivor 47 we're so excited to call it club Kondaka, it's Hello, what do you think of that? I I love that. I absolutely love it. I know I conica was claimed during my I ate that up. I want to steal that too. I love what you just did, Rob, too.

And season 48 is the gift that keeps on giving. So I'm ready to gab today. OK. Annika, how are you? I'm doing great. I've moved since the show. I'm in San Francisco now with some of my fellow other cast mates from different seasons.

So that's been really fun. Where were you? I was in LA. I was in Los Angeles. And then after we finished taking the show, I'm now in San Francisco. We've got Franny and Matt up here. We've got Ellen from 44. We've got Claire and Derek from Amazing Race and Big Brother.

We've got two people from this season. We've got Camilla and Kyle up in the Bay Area. Wait, they live in the same city too? I know, crazy, crazy. Were they separated at birth? Oh my God, that is Camilla and Kevin. Oh, okay. That's different.

I'm so sorry, oh my God. That would be crazy. That would be- Hey, Kevin and Kyle, they both went on the journey together. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. There are lots of similarities with all the K names, but it's Kevin and Camilla who are in the Bay area. Okay. All right. Well, excited to have you here with us. Of course, so much going on here in the survivor podcast world, all at we know survivor.com. If you missed it this week, ton of great podcasts already up at we know survivor.com. If you missed it this week, ton of

great podcasts already up at we know survivor.com still to come. Todd Herzog on the old school interview. Catch that on Monday night. So be very excited to catch up with Todd. Chappelle, how you feeling after this week of Survivor? I'm feeling good. I'm feeling energized. You know I think the episode was a big surprise for a lot of people. And like I said, I've been looking online and we got so many big reactions about the episode. It was something that no one could have saw coming except for this master performance with Camila and Kyle.

It was crazy. So I'm very happy to be able to talk to Anika about this because, Anika, I have to know, why Club Kondo? You could have gone to any of the podcasts in the world. Rob would love to talk to you in any situation, but you chose this mess of a podcast. What brought you here? Anika Keene I did. I'm here for the gab. I'm here for the talk. I'm here for, you know, I personally am chronically online. I love social media. I'm watching what's happening and I have commentary. I have opinions and's happening and I I have commentary I have opinions and I just want to share them with you guys today and all the listeners. Great. Well, you're in the right place

Don't hold back Hopefully you're here for the mass here on Club Kondo and excited to get into all of this now From what I understand you have become very close with this week's boot from Survivor, Thomas. Thomas is my bestie. I love him so dearly. He and I connected immediately once he got back from the island and it's just been, you know, tied, tied at the, what is it?

The thing at the hip. Attached at the hip. There's no hip ever since. Yeah, we're just very similar. A lot of our circles kind of mesh too. We found a lot of different mutual people that we knew in LA. So we've just been super, super close.

And I was able to join him at his watching his boot episode with him last week. So was with him, got his live reaction, seeing himself on screen. Anika, what was the mood in the room at that tribal council? It was very most almost everyone there was all close family and friends and most people who are sitting that room Did not know the outcome of what was happening. It's also Thomas's birthday. So it was It was on his birthday, too

His birthday is actually the 30th, but he advertised it as like a birthday celebration. Like come watch the episode with me on my birthday. There were balloons, there was a cake. And so most people thought they were coming to help celebrate Thomas's birthday. They had no idea it was also going to be his boot episode. So a lot of the energy was guided by how Thomas was, you know, acting and, you know, owning his boots. And he, I have so much respect for him clearly because I was acting and owning his boot.

And he, I have so much respect for him clearly because I was so affected by my boo, because it is hard. He handled it with such grace and was so thankful and so grateful, gave a little speech. And I think that is what kept the energy in the room pretty okay. Yeah, pretty high. There was a lot of shock. Yeah.

I will say there's a lot of shock. A lot of shock. And that was something that you experienced famously, Annika, when you got voted out in survivor 47. And of course, who can forget that great moment? Now, Thomas almost does like a 180. He is blindsided at tribal council and there's a very pregnant pause. And then he stands up and says, okay, well, give me a hug. Yeah. Best attitude. Yeah. I will, I will give him all the credit in the world. I thought, as you know, in that situation, it is so hard to do to switch your brain like that. I will say, I think he experienced a very cool way to get voted out. When you're idled out in Survivor, that's almost like that. That's

awesome. You know, it's you're blindsided but by- Not that awesome. Yeah, it's not that great. It's not awesome. But if you're gonna go, you know, it's a pretty epic way to go. Right. To get idled out. We saw the same thing, or I should say a successful idol play. Like last season on my season, Andy getting out by a successful idol play, you know, there's some to it where you like,

you played so hard, so well, that someone felt the need to idol you out. Like you can feel good about how you were playing. Yeah, and Anika, I think the difference is also, when you get voted out, you realized, okay, people have lied to you. You've been betrayed. That the things people told you did not line up. Whereas for

Thomas, you know, his people stuck with him. And it turns out these other two, these people, these newcomers, it turns out they are liars, we can't trust them. But he can hug his friends. Correct. I think that's the biggest difference too. Like getting blindsided by your own alliance versus someone playing you in Survivor. That's, yeah. Yeah. Friends.

Anika, what is your recollection of your Big Boot episode and the night that you experienced? Cause it was Iconica from start to finish, including the veil. So could you tell the people who weren't there exactly how that went for you? Absolutely. So I famously was able to watch my boot episode at an R-Hap event with my whole entire cast.

A lot of the people I haven't seen who voted me out, I hadn't seen them in person until that event, watching it live with them. So that was fun. I was sitting two seats down from my lovely friend, Samuel, while watching him destroy me on the screen. That was so much fun. But basically, for those who don't know,

I had this idea that this was my funeral, right? Like it was my boot in the game and I'm mourning my loss in the game. And the reason I got that idea was actually from our show therapist who kept on coining the term. Like when you come back from the Island, you're mourning your loss in the game. Um, so if you're feeling hurt about it or any emotions that you have,

like that's what you're doing. You're mourning your death in the game. Um, and she kept saying it so much that I was like, yeah, like this is my funeral. I am so extra as a, as a person that I was like, I'm going to make this a thing. I had a couple of my friends who were in the know, my friends and family dressed in all black prior. We hosted a little funeral for my death in the game. And at the end of the show,

when they revealed that I was voted out, I pulled out of my pocket, whipped out a veil, whipped out some black lace gloves I was wearing all black, put them on. And when I stood up, everyone could gloves. I was wearing all black, put them on. And when I stood up, everyone could see that I was mourning my death. Wow. Now, Anika, have you become like a grief counselor for the other survivors who did not go like, did you help Thomas through this?

I did indeed. Yeah. And he says some really kind words to about just being able to talk about what it's like, dealing with the emotions. I actually think it's, I've been able to help a lot of the pre-mergers too. Because I do think you have a different experience based on when you get voted out of the game. And I'm sure people who make it further can help those who make it further.

But I've been able to help a lot of the people who kind of fell in a similar spot as me, which is Thomas. Thomas is one of those people. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's incredible. Yeah. Talking to... Oh, go ahead. I was going to say, let's get into this a little bit from this week's episode.

Now, for you as somebody who, okay, very close to Thomas, what was your reaction to seeing what Camilla and Kyle did this week? Oh, it's so hard, Rob, because at one point I'm cheering for my girl in SF, Camilla, insane move, right? Like her ability, her and Kyle's ability reach other's minds.

I was just so impressive. And that is what you dream on having on Survivor. I felt very similarly with Rachel. Like we could do a lot of things. A lot of our strategy was just eye contact and just like sensing each other. And that is your dream of what you have an Alliance member on Survivor. Camilla and Kyle clearly have that. But Thomas being my bestie, I'm heartbroken, right? Like I want him to be in the game so much. He was so entertaining. He was playing the game well. We saw I think it was a beautiful edit.

We saw his humorous side. We saw his strategy. You know, we saw him do well at puzzle, like the challenges. So yeah, heartbreaking. Yeah. So for you, you're watching this all go down and we see Kyle and Camilla pull off this incredible lie. How impressive was what they did?

After playing the game, it is so wildly impressive to also count the possibilities and votes of what could have happened with their advantages, knowing that Thomas went on the journey. Like there's so many calculations that you have to do when you're having that conversation and knowing that they didn't have much time to talk out all of those numbers.

I think that's what's very impressive. A lot of times out there, like you can go in circles and you don't have your full brain power, right? You're out there counting the numbers and it can get complicated when you know so many advantages are in play. So for them to be able to do it like snip, snap so quickly, like let's just talk about it once, boom, done. I'm impressed. I'm impressed.

From a viewer standpoint, you're rooting for Camilla, you're rooting for Thomas, and then you see the scene where they are going through the bag, right? And you got Camilla sitting right there, staring at them, they're fumbling around. Were you hoping they would find it? Were you hoping they wouldn't find it? Who were you really rooting for in that moment, Anika? I'm so glad you brought this up,

because like I said, I was at Thomas' event, or watching the episode with him, and I go up to him afterwards and I'm like, Thomas, searching the bag is a gay villain's job. Why? Oh, wow. I didn't know that. I didn't know. I never heard that before. Well, okay, think about it. In the previous couple of episodes, we saw Shaheen saying like, oh, you know, if the if the clue disappears, like that's a little bit plain too dirty for me. And Thomas was down down for those kind of like a little bit

more dirty, plain dirty. So now all of a sudden, well, it's also interesting from Shaheen's point of view that hiding or not hiding the clue was too dirty, but searching a bag isn't too dirty which makes sense why he maybe didn't want to take the whole entire bag apart because he's trying not to play too dirty. And also, Thomas, you should search through the bag.

If you're willing to play dirty, get dirty. Which I said, I did ask him this and he actually had a good response to it. He said that his whole entire strategy was to make Shaheen look like the more sketchy player not Thomas. So to put the, to put it off the target off of chain. Well, just to bring up that conversation about the bags. So Shaheen had posted to Twitter the other day that he posted this, that he said, given the absurd number of times I've

had my bags checked, I should have been better at checking a damn bag. Thomas said literally it would have been so helpful babes. Look, TSA has their favorites. Okay. I've definitely been pulled to the side by TSA a number of times as well for whatever reason. And so Shane's talking about his personal experience and how, you know, being that his bag has been checked so many times. Yeah. It probably wouldn't have hurt if he had looked in the how, you know, being that his bag has been checked so many times.

Yeah. It probably wouldn't have hurt if he had looked in the shoes, you know, because when TSA stops you, they look through everything. I sat there, I've watched my bag get checked and I had to sit there like Camila, like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, but we're good. We made it. There's nothing to see here. You know, we didn't get detained.

We're just delayed a little bit. So yeah, I agree. He should have done a little bit better. He should have done a little bit better. He's done a lot better. He's not the one going through the bags. TSA is. So practice. Yeah, you know, just to go back to what you said about how you had this very close relationship with Rachel, You had this shorthand. What was it like for you to then get blindsided? You go out of the game and then the person who was your closest ally you find out has gone on to win the season. Well, I don't, we never got to talk to you after Rachel's win.

I'm sitting at Pondy after the game and I'm saying the only person I want to win this game is Rachel, the one person who didn't blindside me, who stayed loyal to me. And again, like I was planning on going with her as far as we could possibly go together in the game. And if I didn't win, I wanted her to win. And that's how I always felt with working with her. And so there's so the conversations we had back in Pondi, it's just, it was so funny. And everyone had like what their winner pick was, you know, for our season after getting to know everyone. And mine was Rachel. And I could not have been more excited that it was Rachel.

I mean, I would say at the final Tribals Council, she said, I'm doing it for Annika. Yes, my number one. Yeah, my number one avenged me. So, which is rare, rare to happen on survivors. So we felt pretty- I have the opposite question though for you. You watched your number one win the game, but throughout the season,

you are watching your biggest op, Andy. Not only is he moving through the game, but he's also kind of talking trash about you. Like, damn, Blindsided Onika was so fun. How did that feel? Do you know how many times I was surprised to see myself show up again? After I got booted?

I was like, I cannot be killed. That will not be done. Why are we bringing me up again? That's a Jolinski effect. Yeah, it was a Jolinski effect, absolutely. And I was told also by my cast that they did bring up other moments of things that I either said in the game or things that were happening or there was the rumor about me saying that Sam and Sierra were the couple. Like that spread throughout the whole entire camp that like stayed out there while I was gone. So it definitely had an impact in the game. And I can, I feel comfortable.

That's nice. That's nice to know. I love the lasting impact. Also congratulations to Sam, who just got married this weekend. I know, I'm so happy for him. Sam and Hannah. Yeah. We heard about Sam's engagement, like right on the island,

and they didn't have the wedding planned yet. So that was like one of the first things he shared with us. So it's really exciting to now see like the wedding happen live. Okay, it all came together. Now, going back to this big moment from the episode where Kyle and Camilla blindside Thomas. Thomas had this to say on social media. And we end up where he says, Thomas is Kyle got my ass and he can get it again. And then Brent weighs in.

I think he's so funny. Just like I said, Thomas is known for his one-liners and his witty commentary. And you can see it in this tweet. He's I love it. And he could get it again. Kyle ended up responding to the tweet. He's, I love it. And he could get it again. Kyle ended up responding to the tweet. He says, okay, but my wife hates me now. What's going on here? Well, as as all of us do, we love Thomas. Kyle's wife also loved seeing Thomas on our screens. I can completely relate to Kyle's wife

being so mad at him for voting out someone we loved seeing on our screens. So I think Kyle is also doing a great job of poking fun back, yeah. Okay. Yeah. No tension here, no smoke. I wish there was smoke. This to me reads as funny and friendly.

Yeah. Okay. Do you agree? Do you think I'm reading this correctly? I mean, we could choose to pretend that it's not as friendly, right? Like, oh yeah, he can get it again. Like wife, please calm down. It's just a joke.

Okay. He's not going to get his ass again. You know, we could go that direction, but I think you're right. I think we could keep it cute this time. Okay, yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of things not that are not cute. Yeah, well, what's not cute? Should we should we jump to another another character? Should we jump to Mary? Oh, yeah. Okay. Mary was stirring some stuff up online. Yeah. Tell me what's going on with Mary. I

Will for starters, she's got some beef with the purple pants podcast. Oh my god. Oh boy Here we go again. Oh my god Okay, all right, So let me just say Mary said, I never said I overreacted. I would never say that about myself. Purple pants. If I guess Jack Atkins, you better watch it or else I'ma start personally sending you spoilers. Oh my god, everybody please stop picking on poor Jack Atkins. Let him live, oh my god. Get off his head, okay? Everybody stop bullying Jack Atkins.

Come on, don't you start now, Annika. Oh, don't worry. What I love even more is Broccoli's comment below down here and Mary's response to that. So somebody named Broccoli says, everyone coming at Jack Atkins for not sucking up to them is wild. And Mary said, Broccoli, please stay out of this

before I turn you into a salad. She's very sassy, Mary, with the haters. So sassy. She's okay. It all caps multiple exclamation points for me. And the threat of personally sending you spoilers is just so funny to me. Well, he's very, he was very upset that, hey, you're a West coaster, Mary, do you feel like that everybody on the East Coast needs to preface their survivor tweets with, hey, this is a spoiler incoming?

No, unfortunately, like that's just the way it goes. If you are watching on the West Coast, you got to know you got to stay offline. Otherwise you will be spoiled. I have nothing more to say than that. The people who are, you know, got a little stick up their booty I Come on, you know what time zone you live in yeah, this happens for any show. That's not only you know survivor, so You just got it. You just got to live there We got a lot of benefits living on the West Coast

This is not yeah, you get to watch Survivor three hours earlier than we do and I have to go to I have to stay up late at night. Do you know how much my sleep is affected? Yeah. Please I'd rather be spoiled any day of the week and go to bed at 830. That'd be great. Yeah. Mary actually responded with a video as well. Did you see her video where her sunglasses on and she's holding her cat? It's in the, it's in the, it's in the document. Yeah. On Instagram. Yeah. Mary's just not going to be on Twitter. She's going to take it to different social media platforms. She got all the smoke. She got time, space, opportunity, which that

who is she responding to a troll about who said that she was unwatchable? Which one is this? Chappelle? I have too many Mary links. I don't have any Instagram Mary links. There are only X links. Okay. Well, look, I'll have to put it in the private chat, but yeah, she is commenting on the purple

pants podcast Instagram. She played video straight to Jack Atkins in case he didn't see the tweet. She, she made sure she went on. And I think it is so funny that she just, she makes time to go meet the haters where they are. You know, is it not calling Jack a hater? You know, no disrespect Jack. I know you're just doing the hard hit on journalism. He's a journalist, Chappelle. He's allowed to have his opinion. We here on club condo, we suck up to people, okay? We don't do that kind of stuff here. Jack's hitting it hard and making sure that all the real journalism

is being handled over there on the Purple Pants podcast, and I respect it. Mm-hmm. I need to actually commend May, Mary, and Sey, and whoever is starting online beef this season, because genuinely as someone who has played this season, you are overwhelmed with so much in your inbox. So for them to one, take the time and to like come back with such a witty sassy response for our own entertainment, I'm eating it up. I want more actually. Okay.

All right here. So let me, let me see if I can cue this up right. OK, so here's where Mary is clapping back on Jack Atkins. Please, Mary, Jack's allowed to have an opinion, OK? All right, you don't know better than Jack, Mary, OK? All right. Let him breathe. Yeah, get off his neck, Mary. All right? All right, let him breathe. Yeah, let get off his neck Mary All right. All right. Here we go. Here's use of over. Oh Atkins. I have slept Probably four hours and I want to go to sleep, but I just heard the podcast

I have something to say I need the world to know you did put words in my mouth You did put words in my mouth. I would never say that I overreacted me overreact Yes me saying that I'm overreacting No Okay, I Don't make me Jack Atkins do not make me pull up the screenshots. I Never said I overreacted.

I said, okay, it's cool, it's fine. We don't got beef. I was annoyed, but it's fine. It's not that serious. That is what I said. Rest of the world, I need you guys to know, I never said I overreacted. I totally believe that I reacted in an appropriate fashion. Jack Atkins.

There you go. What are we even saying she overreacted to? What did she overreact to? Well, in the previous clip, Jack goes on to kind of talk about their beef. And I guess he was saying that, you know, because last week, you know, his words where he feels like they were misconstrued, saying it was coming from him, where it was coming from. And so I guess in these text messages, he says, she said she overreacted and she has put her sunglasses on, grabbed her cat and let us all know

that she did not say that. She might've overreacted, but she would never admit to overreacting. In that part, I respect. Okay. Major respect from her. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So something to be said about reacting on the internet so quickly versus people who think

too much before they're like, what's the best strategic plan? Yeah. I respect that. Yeah, tell me about this because I feel like that we're, I think this is fascinating because I feel like that, you know, I kind of like came up in an era where, you know, they once said like, when they go low, you go high, you know, and the best defense just ignore the haters. But I feel like that we're now in an era of the clap back of, you know,

I think there's something to be said about the new phrase kind of coined by the Kardashians that all PR is good PR. So if you're getting your name out there, we're talking about Mary Mary's, you know, whether it's good or bad, she's being talked about. And I think that's kind of a strategy that some people are taking at this point. Yeah. On Donde, we learned this season that if you go low, some people will go lower. So low that Harriet Tubman had to come rescue

from the Underground Railroad. Have you heard that before, Annika? No, but I'm loving that. That's fabulous. That's fabulous entertainment for us. Yeah, exactly, exactly. We're in the we're in the low portion of this reality TV world, Rob. It ebbs and flows. Yeah. Anika, did you ever clap back at any of the haters?

No, but I did help some of my former castmates draft their own tweets to clap back. Yeah, I don't know if I personally live by the go low. Someone goes low, you go lower, but I love to participate. Yeah, you don't have to tell us who, so tell us how this works. So somebody in the group chat is like, hey, this person is being loud and wrong.

What do we do? What do we say to this person? That's exactly how it happens. I get sent a tweet or I get sent a message and immediately all you know sparks are flying. We're drafting possible things to be said to each other. I'm Tiana last year for me we collaborated a lot on some of her tweets. Yes to other cast members.

Other cast members. Yeah, I gotta Yeah, I gotta help my girls. Yeah, so anytime someone needs help or wants to do it, we make sure we're doing it in a classy way. We gotta think about how it's coming off. We're not as quick as the 48ers. I will say that. They are quick. We were a little bit slower.

We were a little bit more strategic. We paced ourselves a little bit. We didn't put a deck together or anything, but it's almost there. Yeah, that sounds about right though. You know, you go from being a survivor player to a survivor grief counselor and the clapback coach as well. You're making a real career here after your survivor career.

I'm loving it. This is like where I shine. I work in marketing and social media and I'm loving it. Yeah. What do you do in your work, Annika? I currently am a manager of finance and operations at a marketing agency. Big title. What does it actually mean? It means I just basically report to senior executives on whether the company is doing good or bad. And if we're doing poorly, what can we change to make it profitable? Um, so it's a lot of strategy. It's a lot of numbers strategy. Um, so that's what I do on my day to day.

It's a lot of problem solving. Yeah. Okay. Sounds good. It is good. Yeah. I quite enjoy it. Yeah.

It's work from home, flexible. Mm hmm. We saw that on the Island as well, where, you know, Sam had a problem. He couldn't cut a rope. He couldn't. And you, you had the answer. Shewell, it's actually one of my favorite scenes to watch back my whole entire season, to watch that interaction between me and him.

And it's just so, so, so funny to me because all my friends who watched it back, who know me so well, they all were like, yep, that's you. That is you. That is so you. And what we're seeing on the island, it was awesome for my friends and family to know that I'm staying true to myself on the island. Yeah, it's fun to watch back.

Now, Anika, this week we saw a reward that was given to the survivors and I couldn't help think back to you and your tribe when I saw that the reward was a gigantic fruit basket. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, I think that was the one that we know that no, we didn't we won the chickens on the fifth, no, no, on the fourth challenge. Yeah, that's what it was, immediate reward. And what I would have done for fruit

instead of those chickens. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I saw that in our chat BCC group, Sam said, worst reward ever. No, he didn't. Yeah. No, he didn't. He was really thumbs downing the fruit reward. I thought he was a kiwi guy now.

I thought that was a thing. That doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Sam might say that now, but I know for a fact that he would be eating all those fruits if they were in front of us. He ate a papaya for the first time. That wasn't shown on TV, but one of the other, we got one ripe papaya on our beach

and I split it into six little slices. And every single time he'll be like very anti trying it. The moment he tries it, he'll be like, which beach were you guys on? Who has your, the, who has your tribe beach? The orange tribe. They have our beach. Okay. Now what about this development about that? David says that, that cassava lives all over this tribe. Okay. Yeah. And I was, I, I, okay. As you know, I'm the person on my tribe who kind of knew a lot about the spread of coconuts and what we could eat.

And I found the one calamansi that was left on the tree. Did you really know about it? Or did you, did you see a video on TikTok about it? No, I actually do. I like, I love- That's what John Lovett said. Right? I know John Lovett said that on what I was saying, I'm telling him all about these fun facts.

And he's thinking that I got my information from a YouTube video. You said you read a book. Yeah, book like I've just watched so many documentaries about it. Like I just I, it is an interest that fascinates me. So I do have a lot of random knowledge about different exotic foods, different preparations of different foods. Anyway, so I knew about that and I knew, well, actually I'll give this credit to Andy. Andy said, I found the calamansi, which is the lime, and I knew to pluck it and we could eat it. But Andy said, if this is the island with the calamansi,

this is the island with the cassava. And then he goes, Onika, how do you find a cassava? And that is something I probably should have Googled prior to getting on the island and never did. So I'm sitting there thinking, oh my God, like I know it's a root plant. I can't dig up this whole entire island, which in the world is lying underneath a cassava. So because I'm very passionate about this, I did ask people on 48, how did

you combine the cassava? Like, did you know, did someone know? Because who knows more than me? I need to know. And it was an accident. Someone tripped on an accident. Well, Annika, then we have a conflicting report here because High flying dive low David Kinney says if you're hungry on Survivor you are ill-prepared I spotted the cassava plants within the first hour of hitting the Siva Beach cassava clams oysters Coconuts heart of palm papaya crabs her crabs, hermit crabs, sea cucumbers, almonds, snails, and more, shaking my head at the damn GameBots.

I am messaging David immediately after this because David there I okay I've heard conflicting information I heard that someone tripped on the Vine and then all of a sudden Casaba was discovered. fine. Remember vine. Yeah. Me calling out John love it. Do you, do you remember that? Oh my God. So did you know you were sitting on a virtual whole foods on your beach? I will say a cassava. We knew existed. We didn't know where they were. Clams, please. Oyster, oysters, okay. Coconut for sure. Heart of palm. Give us a secret scene, CBS, please.

Because heart of palm, I've seen how those are harvested. You're chopping down the tree, cutting that whole entire thing down with your blunt machete. I don't think so. Papaya, yep, there was one papaya crabs. Yep. Kermit crabs. There was a secret scene of us eating like 75 Kermit crabs each that made it. How'd that go? They didn't put in the part where we all got deathly ill at night. And then

Sam are just so, so sick. So stomach, don't know how she was actually pretty fine. So rock, solid stomach on Rachel. Good for her. Yeah. Maybe we're all game bots. Yeah. Maybe we're all game bots. All almonds. I, that's impressive. But I, yeah, maybe Dave can make some almond milk. Oh, please don't get him started on milk. Oh my God. We have him mention it five episodes in a row? Take that now. Rob, do you think we're gonna get a milk mention

and for the fifth episode? I think so. I think that's kind of his brand. I think that he's headed towards maybe like a milk endorsement after this. Does milk still have endorsements? I remember it. Milk council.

I remember way back before Vine when people actually like respected milk and they had gotten milk and you'd have milk mustaches and all these advertisements. If he brings back milk, he's the real winner of the season, regardless of what happens. It was a hot thing to be a part of a got milk commercial. It got a girl. The survivors were doing got milk campaigns. Did you got milk? Did you know?

No, I don't know if they did it past the second season. But when survivor was real hot, yeah, should it whether or not it's actually promoted, he should make himself like a got milk campaign. That's a post on fire. Yeah. When he does the purple pants podcast, the Zaddy calendar, if he's not wearing a milk mustache, what are we doing? Yeah. I see one with Rupert, but I don't know if this is real or not. Wait, you think there

was an AI. I think somebody just painted it on him. I think this is like a Photoshop. I don't think that this is a real, a real commercial. Okay. I always thought this is the, you want to see the, okay. Annika, you want to see the creepiest one was I never, I never understood this even at the time. Like what the hell is this? What is this hellscape? Like there's like a nice normal one for survivor Borneo, but in survivoror the Australian Outback, the final three, it's Tina, Colby and Keith. This was the Got Milk ad

for them. It's like they're I don't know if they're buried alive or this is like they're decapitated heads with milk mustaches. What the hell is this? What are they going for? From a marketing perspective, I hate this. The point of an ad is that you look at it for 25 seconds and you get the memo.

And it looks like they're like literally in hell. Yeah. I don't get only why only the heads. I don't get the background. And then just the contrast of the milk mustache. You can't even tell. Make it make sense. make it make sense. Make sense. Yeah. If you're listening to the podcast, yeah. Look, look, look up the survivor

Australian outback milk ad. I do love Keith's side. I am not Tina and Colby Colby. He looks intense that they're like, all right, Colby smile. He's like, no, I'm ready to shoot the milk ad now. Like, all right, we'll go when I'm ready. Colby. I know Hershey's chocolate milk. You know? Yeah. I think he was trying to get an ad campaign for himself. I would be shocked if Colby never had his own separate got milk ad. He was the guy at the time. Like I said, if you had, Yeah, if you had the milk mustache, you were the one. Yeah. Anika, how far back does your survivor experience go? Are you an OG? Did you pick it up recently?

I wish I was an OG. I started watching in COVID. My first season that I ever watched was 28. It was put on Netflix. And then from there, I became obsessed, got Paramount Plus immediately, watched every single season. From one, you watched it all the way through? No, I did not do it in order. I Googled top seasons to watch and then went from there and started checking them off. And some of the earlier seasons, I will admit, I have not seen. But majority majority of the seasons I have seen at least once. There's there's some of my favorites that I'll like recommend to people and I'll watch them with them. What do you recommend? I personally love 28. And I think for a lot of people who like you can tell when you meet someone if they're gonna love Survivor or if they're

gonna, like, be a casual watcher of Survivor, you know? Like, I feel like a lot of people who watch Survivor immediately get hooked. Like, you know those people who are gonna get hooked. If I know it's one of them, I will probably recommend a different season. But if I'm just recommending this to any Tom and Jerry, like any person, I'm recommending 28. 28 is a perfect intro for someone who just loves a little reality TV. Okay. All right. We're talking about David. I'd love to get your thoughts, Anika, on this whole saga with David and his girlfriend.

You once referred to Andy and he was giving toxic clingy ex boyfriend. Oh yeah. So as far as I'm concerned, you have all of the background and experience to talk about relationships on the podcast. I would like to think so. I'm I I have my opinions obviously on the situation and I hope whether David wins or loses this season that he finds someone who appreciates him whether he loses or wins. I don't think he needs to be sticking around. That's for sure. That's my thought. You're team David.

I'm team David. Yeah, he deserves someone who isn't going to... Here's the thing. Whether you, whatever you do in life, there's a way to provide for your family. You might not have a castle on the top of the hill, but for her to make such a sharp judgment about it I know Anika would you date somebody who didn't win a million dollars on Survivor?

I'm someone who didn't win a million Yeah, no I would I after playing the game too you like realize how hard it is and how much luck goes into play Before I played maybe my answer would be I guess that you would date you could date somebody But would you marry somebody who didn't win a million dollars on Survivor? Imagine if I said no No, I'm only marrying winners Rob or millionaires Yeah, I guess the million doesn't have to come from Survivor Yeah, we don't want toxic energy out there. You know, whether you win or lose.

There's some toxic winners. Is that money shaming? From the girlfriend? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Undeniably. Yeah.

How come people don't talk about that? We should be talking about it more. Yeah, absolutely. I think there's a lot of great qualities about David. And you can tell he's willing to work hard, switch up jobs. He loves romantic comedies. Romantic comedies. I love romantic comedies.

Who doesn't love a rom-com? If you say you don't love a rom-com, you're lying to yourself. It feels like David had an agenda going on the show. It was like, I gotta win this money, but also if I could get out of this relationship, it would be great. Because every episode, he's like,

you know who's awful? Yeah, he's like, you know who's awful? My girlfriend. You know who sucks? My girlfriend. And this episode, he even said she broke up with me. And I was like, wait, which one is it? Did she break up with you

or did you come on the show to win the money? Which one is it? Yeah, no, that was confusing. David was, but what, okay, what I find interesting too is on the editor is keeping that in, right? Yeah, oh yeah. I want you to know. When you're out there, like, you're getting to know each other.

Everyone's talking about their relationships. I know all my tribe mates teed on their past relationships, but none of it made it in, obviously. So I find it so fascinating that the editors chose to keep this in for David. What does this say about the season? We do not know. We do not know. He's like a dating profile. He's like, I like rom-coms. My favorite movie is Nightingale. I love warm chocolate milk. Warm chocolate milk. Oh my God.

Walks on the beach. I was like, David, what are you doing here? I'm looking for some present time, yeah. Right, exactly. Yeah, and he's putting the stuff out there about, hey, I live in a trailer, it's not cool. But they say, you gotta put your stuff out there so people like, they know.

That's like filtering, right? You want people like, if there's some woman out there who won't date David because of where he lives, get that information out front. Like don't waste his time. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm curious about all of their DMs. Yeah.

You gotta get out in front of this stuff. Oh, DMs are a fun place to be. What? Did you get any wild DMs during your season? I got so many wild DMs on my season. I got one. I was a polarizing character. I got a lot of hate.

I got a lot of positivity. Those messages warmed my heart. But then I also got a lot of slide-ins. And those ones, those ones were fun. Fun? Or these are like creeps that send in? For sure there's some creeps. Like for sure. But some not creeps? No, and there were some not creeps that send in. For sure there's some creeps, like for sure.

But some not creeps. No, and there were some not creeps. Yeah. You know that all the creeps are saying like, I wasn't, I was one of the not creeps. I'm not one of the creeps obviously. No, but also actually this is some tea on my season. We have a lot of, we have a couple, I would say on my cast

who dated a fan for a little bit. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I know. I know. Okay. Dated a fan.

Don't play that game, Rob. Don't play that game. I'm already, my mind is racing. Which one of you? I see you, John Lovett. One of them's still dating a fan. Wow. Is it John Lovett? No.

No. No. John Lovett. Congrats to John Lovett. He did just also get engaged. John Lovett got engaged? John Lovett got engaged. Congratulations to John Lovett. Yes. Congratulations to John Lovett. Anika, I heard you are the only person from Survivor 47 that keeps in touch with John Lovett. Is that true? I don't know if I'm the I can't confirm 100% of I'm the only one, but I do know. Yeah, I yeah, yeah. We do have a small group of our pre merge group that we're all very close with. Does John respond to that group chat? No.

But when I pester him enough times, I will get relatable. I get that. I get that for sure. Yeah. But and I have a great response. Relatable. I get that. I get that. For sure. Yeah. But, and I have a great, I personally love John. I have a great relationship with him. When we came back from the island, he really was just, he was there for me. He wanted me to see me grow in life. He's like a bigger brother. Yeah. He's an older brother for me. You are a magnet for all these famous survivor players. You get John Lovett, you got Thomas now. I'm sure you're cool with Chaperone now. Like you look, okay, you're the person.

You're the magnet, yeah. It's my charisma, I guess. Yeah. That reeds. Something else that you have in common, not with Thomas, but with Bianca and certainly with Justin, was that you were somebody that you went on a journey and you lost your vote and So I'm sure you must have very strong feelings about these players who?

Be out here losing votes on Survivor Well Justin is same same situation as me you lose your vote you get voted out the same night. Oh my gosh It's devastating to have to play a game of chance. I would love to have been given a puzzle. I'm so happy for the at least the second journey was a puzzle for them. You know, that was fun to watch, right? I think these chance games, it is really frustrating, not only as a viewer, but as a past player who had that happen to them, that it really isn't in your control.

And I personally don't think it's fun to watch. Yeah. Can you remind us, Anika, that tell us about the circumstances of your journey? Obviously, I remember the part where you're talking with, what, Kyle and Rome, OK, about, and Kyle is asking you about Sam and Ciara, right? I remember that part. but I don't remember

what game you had to play. It was when we went to the top of the mountain, we had to go on a hike, which by the way, these hikes are so strenuous when you're starving and it's like 90 degrees, I wanted to die. But we finally get to the top of the hill and we had literally just a bag with three scrolls in it and you had to pick one of them out.

One of them was or one of them was two of them were lose your vote. One of them was I think it was an extra vote or something like that. But if you I'm forgetting even the logistics now Rob, this is not like you could pick again. You had like the map blank and ship thing. Yeah. Yep. Yep. You could pick again. You could tell I'm so, you know, affected by it that my mind went blank. You blacked it out.

I was like, this is trauma and I need to not remember this ever again in my life. You need a grief counselor. Yeah, but it was. It was a bag with three different scrolls. You had a chance to pick again. I did not pick again. Rome got the advantage on his first pick. Kyle also chose not to pick again. And so me and Kyle ended up losing our votes. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, the details are slowly coming back to me. But... It's kind of flooding back in now. Look at the panic you said, no, you're like, oh God. And you had to play. You couldn't walk away from it, right?

You had to play, but that was the lie that I told. Similar to Thomas, the lie that he told is like, you could to play. You couldn't walk away from it, right? You had to play, but that was the lie that I told. Similar to Thomas, the lie that he told is like walk away. Well, and who did you tell when you came back? I immediately told well, so here's the thing. I think if I won something, my tactic would have been different. As what I actually did when I lost something. So I lost my vote and I thought that was something that I had to share With my tight alliance, which was I actually ended up telling I told Sam Sierra and Rachel

Okay Now I had said with Justin I had like sort of like a theory of the case of that if you get something Don't tell anybody like Thomas did. And if you lose your vote, you should tell people because you need help. Like Justin should have told Cedric, do you feel like that maybe had you not told people that you lost your vote, things would have changed for you? Yes and no.

I, in hindsight, wish I only told Rachel. But of course, that's in hindsight. She was the only person I could have trusted. At the time, in the moment, I had so much trust in Sam and Sierra that I thought I was doing the right thing by telling them and preparing them for what could happen. What I really ended up doing is just showing them

how easy it was to get me out. It's all in hindsight. It's so hard when you're playing the game of who you trust and who you can't trust. I think, again, Sam and Sierra did a great job of making me feel so comfortable. Camilla and Kyle made Thomas and three of them feel so comfortable that Thomas didn't use his advantage, his block of vote. I give a lot of credit to the players who make you feel so comfortable out there. Okay. Bianca has no vote. And she might be in a situation where she could have to go

to tribal council potentially when there's two people on from the other two tribes. What should she do? I'm stressed for her, but she needs to not tell a single soul. If she and she had the right strategy, she was mentioning it. She's like, I need to find a crack so that the votes could all go against one person and she will never ever ever like it could never be figured out that she doesn't have her vote because easily what they could do is go to too easy. She doesn't have a vote. Like, let's just keep it that way.

So it'll be really interesting I am stressed for her if they go to tribal because that is a someone speaking from the position of having to go to tribal without having your vote especially in only a group of five. If that was to my whole thing was I was hoping I was praying if we just make it to merge, then it's okay if my votes lost, right? It's way easier to hide that in a bigger group of people, just find the majority and stick with it. I think there's even a benefit to not having a vote at the first merge vote. Right? Totally. But in a group of five, it is really hard to hide, really hard. Yeah.

It's tough that Bianca lost her vote, but it's great that she finally was on my television screen because I have not seen her for weeks on weeks on weeks. Imagine the first time you really get a lot of content is when you are up against the wall with no vote. No, her and Chrissy. Oh my God. They've been perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Who is Chrissy? I want to know. She's just there. She's just there. I think she got a little bit more content than Genevieve, but you see it could spike. Episode four was Genevieve's breakout.

Right, exactly. This was kind of in a weird way, Bianca's breakout, but it wasn't great. We did hear a good strategy confessional from Chrissy about why it would be good to get rid of Bianca. Which I think is actually very insightful. She's more worried about the rest of the Loggie tribe being connected and having the numbers and not necessarily Bianca herself. So yeah, it's all numbers game. It's a numbers game.

And Chrissy's thinking about that. Bianca is on a tribe with say, and say has been such a star both on and off of the season and she's the MVP of club condo every single week. And this is a no exception. So let's check out what say is saying. All right, let's start off with this tweet. This says the women in this season are the main characters and the men are the supporting characters dot, dot, dot as they should be so far. I think it's, I think it's easy to say as she's a woman of the season. And I love the self hype, 100%. It is hard out here, yeah, the comment right below it. Thomas was cooking though, I was going to say.

It's hard when you have Thomas on the cast as well. But Say responds, yes. And Thomas is one of the girls. The girls. Yeah, one of the girls. And that's so fair. But that's very- The girls. Yeah, one of the girls. The girls, and that's so fair. Okay. Yeah. But she's making a good point. Marion, say, kind of dominate the screen time

for the first three episodes, if you say, and then this episode, Camila, this breakout moment, she's been steadily in the show, but this is going to go down in history as one of those just like those moves, right? I saw people calling it operation Guyana, you know, so I'm like, oh, okay, cool. We're bringing that back. Guys, how crazy is it that it's pre-merge? Like, can we talk about that? This is all happening on episode four.

Yeah. Pretty incredible. It's so incredible. Okay. All right. Also, just to check in the say Viver merch is now officially available for purchase. As you know, I'm a big fan of using your name iconica, say Viver. Yeah. So I have to give credit to that. Yeah. Okay.

So let's just check out some of this save Iver merch. The new one here is save Iver with a checklist. Play hard. No naps. Babysit. Hey, the big three shots taken at Cedric right there.

Yeah, I will say also we talked about how the stuff in the save Iver store was kind of marked up. Nice prices. how the stuff in the Save Iver store was kind of marked up. Nice prices. $25 for the Save Iver hoodie. Tough to beat. The people's champ. Tough to beat that.

She heard. She heard what we said. She heard her fans cries and said, I was like, girl, $60, you're crazy. But $25? $25 is doable. Now, again, these hoochies are obsessed with me. That's my shirt. The problem is it's still long sleeve. I can't do the long sleeve t-shirt. Three people have it in their cart, Chappelle. When she drops the short sleeve, put it in my cart. Save Iver, play hard, no naps, babysit. Anika, did you do any merch? I did not.

I did think about it. I was known for my... What would the Anika merch have been? Right, you're a marketing genius. I'm surprised you didn't jump right on that. I know. I know. Doing merch is such a it's so interesting of a tactic to me. I don't think many people on my season did merch. But you got so many opportunities that you get Jeff before every challenge, you'd be like, all right, let's get it. Anika. Oh. Anika fire. I actually was debating, cause I wore a bucket hat.

And that is apparently what else I was known for. I was thinking about doing a bucket hat. Yeah. I have a lot of bucket hats. A line of veils? You gotta have the Anika veils. Drop off, come on, where's the veil line? I will tell you my dream product that I have, you know, maybe worked on a little bit is

as a puzzle. Yeah. So I do love puzzles in my free time. And that one felt the closest to what I would actually, you know, want to put out. So a survivor starts a puzzle business. This is very interesting. Now, did you, did you did you consider meeting with any of the other puzzle makers and sort of getting a sense of how the game works and sort of

pick their brain a little bit? You know, it was considered. And then I easily quickly said no, because I would be doing it so differently than what I've seen being done before. My goal is not to. You could meet with them and then sort of like learn the business. You know, it's not stopping me. Rob, you're right. Let me have a little chit chat.

Let me learn more. But learn from their mistakes maybe. But I personally would not be doing rubble cause of survivor puzzles. I'd be wanting of creating, you know, what's up here. So it'd be net new, which would be different. Okay. All right. Then say posted alert. The founder of the California girls has fallen. Jeff blew that torch out like a birthday candle.

Yeah. Wow. They're kind of a little spicy on social media, you know? It feels like, I don't know if this is like playful trash talk or if this is just like, you know, what I could say wouldn't have any real beef with Thomas. They don't really know each other in the game. So I don't know. Maybe she's anti-California girls overall. Maybe later on we see some beef between the remaining two members. Mm-hmm

Possibly We'll tell but the cleverness of these lines. Come on blowing out like a birthday candle. I never heard that before He didn't like literally like after Thomas left like do like a Yep, which reminds me of one of my favorite Thomas quotes. Yes. Are you ready to give us? I'm ready. All right. OK. All right. Annika told us beforehand she had something produced for us.

She has for us the top five Thomas Krottinger quotes of the season. And she was prepared to drop them on us here on the podcast. Okay. Now, all right. Well, are we ready to go? These are from, we're going to do them from five to one in descending order that Annika's top five list. Yes, of course.

Do you do a lot of rankings of things? Of course. Of course. Whether it's for fun, whether it's in the group chat with your friends. You do rankings in the group chat? Oh, absolutely. I would love a group chat where people did rankings. Yeah.

I mean, you can rank anything. You can rank your favorite. I'm ranking my favorite fruits with Sam. I'm ranking our favorite meals, you know? But I was notoriously known on my season for some of my one-liners, so it only felt right to rank Thomas's and rank Thomas's one-liners that I loved so dearly. So okay, because you had wished somebody had ranked Annika's top five one-liners. Yeah, someone else has got to do it.

I can't rank my own one-liners. Chappelle, if you ever feel inclined to ever rank my one-liners. You know I'm down. You know I'm down. Cause I got my Annika memes set, my GIFs, okay. Cause your vote out. A lot of the eye rolls.

A lot of the eye rolls. There's a lot of good moments there for you. So yeah, the one five on the gifts actually. Yeah. All right. All right. So here we go. Here's the top five Thomas quotes from the episode as listed by Annika Darr. OK, here we go. Number five. OK. I love that little intro at number five. Okay. I love that little intro at number five.

We've got girl you ain't saying my name. It's good with me. I love that one. Okay. That's a classic classic. That was when who said who said who went to Thomas was it was star. Star came to Thomas saying I want to get Eva out It was him and Bianca and and and thomas's immediate strategic response back was

Girl, you ain't saying my name. It's good with me. Okay All right, I knew anybody but me, you know, yeah anyone but me it's very Sandra game, right? It's a very Sandra gameplay like anyone got me. Let's just do anyone be me. I love that and I'll job on the delivery Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. Here we go. Let's do number four At number four we have what if this disappears Yeah, what I'm she he was like no we can't What if this disappears? Shaheen? Yeah. What? Shaheen was like, no, we can't. Yeah, absolutely not. But I think the four little words, so casually delivered, made him a villain.

Like that, that it's so casual. It's so dainty. It's kind of an afterthought for him. What if it disappears? Right. He didn't say, I'm going to take it. And you just said like, if it just so happens to just not make it way, right? I'm not saying that I'll do it, but like, what if it did?

If it did, what's the worst that could happen, you know? Let's just try it. I like that one. He's so sneaky with his little delivery. Alright. Number three. Number three. Number three. Okay. This one is in reference to Star possibly not having a vote at tribal if she doesn't

solve the Beware advantage. And Thomas says, it's easy, breezy, beautiful. Like it's done and dusted. Done and dusted. Who says done and dusted? That's what reminded me of what we were saying earlier. It's done and dusted? I that's what reminded me of what we were saying earlier. It's it's done and dusted Mm-hmm. Yeah, he really did say at least three times I think in the season easy breezy beautiful is Thomas yeah, does he have a brand deal with covergirl? We need to get him a brand with cover deal Absolutely. He doesn't already let's let's We've got a got milk campaign. Yeah. And we've got a Cover Deal.

Chappelle, is that like a thing that survivors should do like just like on the down low of like, hey, I just got cast for Survivor. Like can I get your company's tagline into Survivor episodes in my confessionals? Andy brought back, she's all that. Okay. Look, we can, we can do way better than just products.

We could bring back movies. We could promote that. The best thing, look, Rob, go back on 50 and then just casually drop the podcast. Yeah. This is a great idea of like, uh, like, oh, blindside Chappelle tonight. I'm loving it. It's like, wait, did you say, no, no, I just, I just said, this is what I say. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, oh, you want to play your idol? Just do it. Yeah. That's funny. That's funny. Yeah. Like, oh, you want to play your idol? Just do it. Yeah. That's great.

Okay. Hold on. Let's get it going. The hoodies. The trick is you just have to say them as many times as possible so you know at least once we'll make that it. And in Thomas's case, it happened, I think, at least two, two to three times. Easy, breezy, beautiful.

I love that. Yeah. I mean, look, I hope that Thomas is getting paid All right, I could see it okay, if you gotta find your own way to make your million I think Tyson Tyson said that first. Yeah All right. Here we go. Here's number two Number two. Okay.

Yes, I'm lying to my people, but that's none of your business. This is another very classic Thomas Villain line that I just love so much. Yeah. And this is when he walks up on Camilla, right? Kind of outing that he has maybe found something on the journey. What did you think about that scene in general? Cause this was like kind of outing that he has maybe found something on the journey.

What did you think about that scene in general? Because this was like kind of the first time we saw them come together as a new tribe. I'm so happy that Thomas doubled down. Like the worst thing I think he could have done in that scenario has been like, well, actually I am lying to you guys. Sorry. Oh, sorry. I didn't want to tell you because like, I was trying to keep it a secret.

Like, no, I'm so, he was so quick with it. Thankfully, a great liar, great survivor player. What I find interesting though is so fascinating. This was an honorable mention that did not make the top five Thomas quotes, but he said, I will continue to take all the information but continue to lie to Bianca.

Bianca lied to her tribe about what happened on the journey. Thomas lied. Bianca was like, okay, well, I've got to tell one person, my, you know, I thought that when they had their conversation between Thomas and Bianca, and Bianca was telling Thomas the truth, that could have been an opportunity for Thomas to say, hey, you know what?

Because usually we see that in Survivor. When some person lets up a little bit of information, you give them, you know, you give them a little bit and Thomas gave me everything and I'm still not going to get you, give you any of mine. We were robbed. We were robbed. Bring them back. Bring them back. Bring them back. Okay. And the number one Thomas quote of the season. Number one. This is Thomas's first line in the entire season. The first time we ever hear Thomas speak, he says, Holy mother of God, which I want a little snippet of that

and I'm sending it to every group chat instead of an, oh my God, holy mother of God. Holy mother of God, yeah. And it's when he's carrying or he lifts up the big chest in the first challenge and he realizes, oh my God, this thing is so heavy. And I relate to that so much because I remember the first time I lifted up one of those chests

and I was like, oh my god Jeff said it was several hundred pounds in the uh I was which that sounds high that sounds high though It's look at anika's face. She's like no, I think it was several hundred literally, no, but it's funny because the one time that we had the chest that I played the game was when we had the boat challenge and I for a fact, when those chests are filled up with water, they are several hundred pounds. Like I would say maybe they're a hundred something, you know, when they're not filled with water, but we really screwed ourselves over with dumping them in the

water. Yeah. So, okay. At that point they were. Now, Annika, you didn't mention what my favorite Thomas quote of the season was where he said, and I wish I pulled it for the podcast, but he said that he could use his steal a vote at tribal council. He said, if things get freaky deaky. Yeah. I do remember him saying that. That wasn't an honorable mention.

Yeah. Bring it back. Freaky deaky. In other words, he said that I love that I've actually said was an honorable mention. Yeah, bring it back. Freaky Deaky. In other words, he said that I love that I've actually said on some of my interviews too, flabbergasted. Oh yeah. That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. Freaky Deaky flabbergasted. In easy breezy beautiful. Yeah, that's the big three. Yeah, Freaky. Big three. How about this? How about this? Maybe she has an idol and is going to play it.

Maybe it's Maybelline. Yeah. You got to keep up. Like somebody's got to compete. Maybe she has an idol. Maybe it's Maybelline. Just clip it. Clip it now.

Give us the commercial. Right? Oh man. Yeah. Just let CoverGirl have all the free publicity. Yeah. Yeah. This is theGirl have all the free publicity. Yeah. This is the time. This is the time. Asia should have said, uh, RHIP, we know reality tv. She should have said the whole thing. You know, like they cut her off. They cut her off. I don't know. We came up with that yet, but you know,

We were getting there. We were getting there. Yeah, if she would have played one more season later. Yeah, well look, Anika and Asia coming back for survivor 50. What's up? Y'all tag team in this one. Y'all going to take it all the way to the end this time. Put me back on Jeff. I'm ready to play. Yeah.

I know Asia's ready to play too. You got any brand deals ready? Absolutely. Huh? You got any brand deals ready? Got your head into your marketing this time. Yeah. Yeah, I should.

I got all, this is inspiring me, you guys. Yeah. Yeah. How about this? Okay. You just get ready to just drop like Annika runs on Duncan. I did live in Boston for six years. New England. I already got that. Annika get your own brand. Yeah. Boston Ann Anika. Yeah. That's fitting. It's fitting. Okay. All right. So much fun stuff going on on Survivor social media, of course. Here's, speaking of Boston Rob, okay. This is something that is a little bit more traders adjacent. Anika, did you keep up with the traders?

Oh, absolutely. Okay. All right. Here we go. Let me just get this clip. Hold on. I got a, I want to show you something from a tick tock, but I have to complete a word puzzle. Okay. Yeah. You gotta make sure you're not a bot. Yeah. I gotta make sure I'm not a bot. Okay. Here's Dolo Dolores. Okay. One of the standouts for sure of traders season three. Here's what Dolores had to say about our survivor alumni who made the leap to the traders. Boston Rob. Boston Rob has like this following. He's like the Taylor Swift of survivor. Like he has this following where even if he kills you, it's an honor to be killed by him. It was honor to be in your

Well Rob you were killed by Boston Rob, did you feel like it was honorable? I really get did it, it was kind of, look, it was kind of ghetto. Usually you're like, ugh, boo, but now you're a traitor. Look, and if Boston Robb is like the Taylor Swift of Survivor, then how come Wes isn't telling me where he lives, you know? Yeah, yeah, you gotta know. You gotta know. I kinda gotta agree with her though. Boston Robb is polarizing, so is Taylor Swift. You either love her or you hate her, and there's, Boston Robb has got some haters too. He's got some extreme fans, but he's also got some

haters. Yeah. Yeah. He's on tour like Taylor Swift. He's doing all these random reality shows. Dandy, the traders. I don't even know what's next for him. He already did the amazing race. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. So here's another one. Check this out. This was something now. I don't know if this came up for you, Annika, okay. Did you track this? This is from somebody on Twitter. Logan says,

don't be a gay man at the final 15 in Survivor in the new era. This is rough. This is a rough find. Here's Sean. Here's Banu. Here's Kishan. And here's Thomas. All four gay men. Now, to be fair, Sean and Banu definitely wanted to go home. They would have been fine leaving at the final 16 or 17. I think they were done with this.

But these other two, Kishan, his name will ring true throughout the season, just like Annika's did. And then of course, Thomas, you know? So there's something there. Yeah. This is four in a row. It is also interesting, some of the parallels we see.

Like Jem, Indian woman, fifth, same with me. It was crazy, the parallels between 46 and 47, both me, Kishan, going right after Bhanu and Jem, Indian woman, fifth, same with me. It was like, it was crazy the parallels between 46 and 47, both me, Kishan going right after Bono and Jem. Like it was, we were talking about that a lot. We were like, it is crazy to see the parallels. To see this four times in a row happen, that's crazy. I don't know what that does really, but. Look, all the black folks were going

during the split tribal council for years during the new era, okay... Look, all the black folks were going during the Split Tribal Council for years during the new era, okay? If there were two black people made it to that, we were like, one of them's going. Hey, Anika, you would take that, right? Yeah, the Split Tribal Council? Yeah, Chappelle, don't complain. I'm not complaining, I'm just saying there are parallels here, you know? It could be worse.

It could be worse. It could be worse. It could be worse. Okay. All right. Anika, do you watch Yellow Jackets? I don't, but I've seen so many ads. Well, yeah, they are really rolling.

Chappelle, do you watch that show? No, I heard they were eating people and I was like... Yeah. No? Eating people? No, I'm good. I was told that I would enjoy it though. Someone recommended it to me and said that this might be something that I don't know now after you said that. Yeah, so let me just, I'm not gonna play the audio of this because I think that this is gonna, the YouTube overlords are not gonna like it.

I think there's a lot of survivor music, but check this out. So this is a... You just played that one. Why would you turn that on? You know, I'm just, I got a lot of things to manage right here. Okay. Uh, but here's that they have Jeff probes here and I'm not like, I don't even know how they did this. I don't know if any of the, if Jeff probes was really there or if any of this is like animated, but the yellow jackets people are like playing survivor. There's a woman named Sean. I played survivor with a woman named Shawna and they're doing like challenges. And then we kind of have like Jeff in the background to some of these things, but I don't know if it's a real Jeff, but they're

basically saying get Paramount plus so you can get a survivor and the yellow jackets as a, as one in marketing, this is whether some of it is AI or not, this is a crazy budget for this commercial. Oh yeah. Yeah. This is their wolves. It's insane. There's a lot going on here.

I mean, should they be doing this with other Paramount properties of having Jeff recording ads? Like for Matlock? I mean, bring back Ghost. What happened to my Ghost commercials? Okay. I loved when they were telling us about the strategy of Survivor.

Bring them back. Can we, can I just need to call out Jeff Howling in that? That's crazy. They got Jeff to howl. Yeah, here, here, let me see. I'll play that part. Okay. Here's Jeff Howling.

Jeff starts out every challenge like that. Yeah, here let me see I'll play that part. Okay. Here's Jeff Howling Starts out every challenge like that So yeah, it's all happening so check that out I have no idea let me know Yellowjackets fans if you were pumped up is anybody like I you know, I don't watch yellow jackets, but I like survivor Let me check it out Yeah, oh you think the yellow jackets fans are going to go watch survivor now because of this cross-promotion I always thought it was the other way around like the survivor fans need to go watch Survivor in some ways it's about a bunch of people stranded having to cannibalize each other. I think there's some synergy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're not eating each other,

but cannibalize it works. It works. Okay. All right. I have some incredible news, Annika. I'm so glad that you're here to share with Chappelle and I have some big news here. So another feather in the cap for R H A P big news that the people over at million podcasts.com have just come out with a list of the best 90 survivor podcasts and very excited to say RHAP has been named number four. That's right. Number four. Yes. According to millionpodcast.com, the best 90 survivor podcasts are out there. Let's check out. Of course, number four, Rob has a podcast. Number five, also reality TV. We call it, we know reality

TV now. Number three, I survived is the number three survivor podcast. That's not a survivor podcast. What is it like to face death and make it out alive based on the groundbreaking A&E television series? Check out the number three survivor podcast. I survived. That's not the same y'all. It's not the same show. I survived documents, harrowing stories of human endurance in their own words. Survivors recall how they overcame unbelievable circumstances that changed their lives forever. I mean, isn't that what we do here? Basically. The number two Survivor podcast.

On Fire with Jeff Probst. Okay. Game respects game. Congratulations to On Fire. The official survivor podcast and the number one survivor podcast against the odds. Humans are resilient in our toughest moments. We will fight. We will struggle and we will triumph often against the odds in this immersive series from wonder. Host adventurers, Mike Corey and Cassie DP call will share thrilling stories of survival the number one survivor podcast isn't even about survivor all right they didn't say the show survivor they just said survivor podcast you know

like about survivors who survived things survival survival even. So really we'll happily take second place. Right, exactly. Give us our silver. Right after On Fire is RHIP, like as it should be, or some would argue the other way around, who knows? Out of the 90 podcasts too, that's a lot. Of those 90, how many were actually out? Actually two times around. Too many.

Sounds like it's not enough. More than. They stopped at 90. They were pulling, they were grasping at straws. Okay, like, yeah, like, people who survived the wilderness, people who survived this. There's an episode, some people keep on reminding me about the, what is the show? Oh my God, someone help me out here yeah thank you oh yeah it's a curvy enthusiasm episode um where there is a character who's mistaken a survivor player

and someone who's surviving against cancer no the holocaust oh the holocaust yeah yeah it was colby yeah oh yeah it was full circle back to the milk mustache. This is what happens when you got milk. What Colby mentioned twice in one episode. Yeah. All right, Sam update our bio on Twitter to the number four survivor podcast. Okay. About survivors. Whatever that means to you.

Yeah. Alright. Let me bring something up. Okay, so let me just give some backstory. Okay? There's a guy who made a video. I don't really know anything about this. I will say that I did see people talking about this guy.

Okay? That Tips for Men described his morning routine. Anika, do you know anything about this? I wish I did. Okay, all right. Chappelle, do you know anything about this guy? It was a Tip for Guys, so I had to check it out. Tip for Men. This man has a really great morning routine, which begins at 3.52 a.m. I gotta be honest, I'm like, wow, this guy is really doing it. But again, I'm going to bet at 3.52. Oh man, man, this is, this is goals for me.

Wake up at 3.52 a.m. Get five or six hours of uninterrupted a me time in nobody talking to me or bothering me. I mean, this is guys live in the dream. Is he, you got it. Yeah. So, all right. This is, I mean, I'm so jealous of this guy. He's, he's up at three 52 here. He is and he has a lot of the sound on as he gets so many bottles of this blue water also he also seems like I don't know like we have a lot of missing time. He goes outside at four Oh one a.m. He does some pushups. What happened with 13 minutes goes by. Okay. Then he does some meditating. He's he's journaling again, drinking water dream come true. An hour went by then. He's again, he's dipping his face in the water. Okay. And then he's going to

go to the gym. So anyway, he's got this whole thing and then people are making fun of this guy. What a loser working on himself so hard and not me though. Other people are dunking on this guy but here's where it comes into there's an overlap of reds like Rob why are you telling us all this okay well Stephanie Berger from Survivor 47 posted this to Twitter after this guy jumped in the pool. Okay. Kevin did it first. Here's this guy at 736, he's jumping in the pool.

Well, see, that's the thing. He didn't jump in the pool at 736. He jumped in the pool at like 731 and he was in the air until 736, okay? Let's be very clear. the longest dive of all time. It was at least four minutes of that motion. Yeah, I actually, I heard about he had a bad dive before I watched the video.

I thought in the video his dive was fine. Like this is a funny screen grab. But his dive. It's just a long ass dive. Yeah, like his dive was successful. Yeah, but it took forever. If we spent four minutes watching Kevin dive into the water during that challenge, we would have all just blown up. It was hard enough seeing them in that challenge, but this would have been awful.

Yeah, Anika, is it a red flag if a guy has a six-hour morning routine? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's unnecessary. I know you said you were jealous, Rob. Yeah, I was. Are you let's are you really jealous? Let's know. What are your true inner feelings? So I feel like that's a little excessive.

But the ability that that this that this man is able to have this kind of time to dedicate to just himself. I am extremely envious of this person. Yeah, he he doesn't own a podcast company, you know, he was at work by he was on like Zoom calls and people were bringing him stuff by 9am. We don't know what he does. Yeah, exactly. We don't know if this man is employed. I don't know about you guys but I'm not a morning person so that sounds- And this guy's a baller. Do you see how many

bottles of blue water he had? Yeah where does he live? Oh my god there's like balconies and stuff like that. This is nice. He rubbed a banana on his face. I don't know why he did that. I don't know. Should I be rubbing a banana on my face? I will say, did he rub a banana on his face? He rubbed a banana peel on his face. Yeah. Oh, interesting. I won't be copying that. But there is something to say about there's so many videos like this

of women doing this kind of stuff on the internet. There's so many videos of men doing this stuff now. Oh, well, this guy's one of many, I guess. Yeah. Again, won't be me. She had mouth. Hey, yeah. I don't know what that's, what that does. It's so you don't breathe through it. So you've, it forces you to breathe through your nose when you're sleeping. What? Yeah. Like it shapes your jawline better. Like you get more oxygen to the brain. Yeah. But if my mouth is taped, how will I talk in my sleep?

Wait, well, do you talk in your sleep? I never stop. I never stop talking. You know, that's kind of my thing. If I take my mouth off, what do I do? Everyone else is worried about dying because they can't breathe through their mouth. Chappelle is worried about not being able to talk in sleep. You know what I'm worried about, Anika?

I would try it, but my wife would make fun of me. She would be like, like, like idiot, loser. What do you do with your mouth tape? I'm like, I'm improving myself. Imagine, yeah, no, someone woke up to talk to you in the middle of the night and you're like, mmm. No, well that's never happened before. But you know, I can't even try it.

I mean, you could try it. I got to do it, Chappelle, like on the slide, like when, after the lights are out, then I'll put the it, Chappelle, like on the slide, like when, after the lights are out, then, then I'll put, put the mouth tape on very like quietly. And then, yeah, when she's not looking. I will say I've only heard positive experiences of people who have tried the mouth tape. So maybe all three of us need to give it a try.

Chappelle, not even with, from the rope bunnies that the mouth tape came into play? Oh, not from the rope bunnies. It's not that I would have any insight into that, but it's just this is not the same. This is not it. I don't I don't know. No, no, no, no. No rope bunnies? Oh, we don't have to get into that. We'll move on. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Not even. Yes. Okay. All right. So, Anika, maybe you could help us with what's going on here over on TikTok. How do y'all? It is Thomas. Hold on. We have a Thomas sighting over on the talk. Uh oh. Yeah. Now, okay.

Anika, are you a a TikToker? I am. A consumer. That's how you learn about all that fruit. Remember? John Lovett. Yeah. Okay. All right. And John Lovett's not too old for TikTok, right? No, he's definitely not. He's trying his best. Okay. All right. All right. Here we go. So here's Thomas over on TikTok. Let's see what's going on here. So this is from somebody named MemeViewBoy. Do you know MemeViewBoy, Chappelle? No, I don't.

But it looks like MemeView reaches out to these survivor players via Cameo and uses these Cameos to kind of build their online presence. There's a lot of Cameos on MemeViewStage. MemeViewBoy just buys Cameos from survivors. Then post them as tick-tock. I think I gotta be paying for commercial usage. I did. I also did get a request. I believe it's to be used at the beginning of his, like his podcast or his YouTube video that he puts out and he, he will write a specific intro of what is to be said. He better be paying for commercial use.

Do you have to specify that when you tell somebody to do an ad? Because it does feel like, I think she's right. When I was watching the videos, it felt like they were all promoting Meme View Boy. Is Meme View Boy even a top 90 survivor podcast? Is it even a survivor podcast? You know, like it might just have survivor players saying- How could it be a survivor podcast if it doesn't have survivor in the name? Well, I don't know. Ask this, what is this other, the 88 other survivor podcast that made that list that

weren't about survivors. Oh yeah. Okay. All right. Sorry. Here's Thomas. Thomas from Survivor 48, which is still hysterical to say I just got back from the premiere in New York and

First order of business is to say you got a subcurt subscribe to meme view Wait, what the hell did you get in my house? I am gay. Please stop hurting me. How are y'all? It is Thomas. That's the cameo. How did you get in my house? I am gay. Please stop hurting me. Now, who's this person that is harassing Thomas? This is a crazy AI change of this. That is wild. Oh, you think AI did this? Well, look at his face. I mean, look at the face. Oh, you think AI did this?

Well, look at his Thomas's face. I mean, look at the face. Yeah, look at the face. I mean, it's clearly a voiceover, too. Yeah. I don't know if Thomas submitted this. Thomas didn't definitely. I can... Yeah, if you listen to the podcast, a man has come up and started like

manhandling Thomas. And then you hear that caption. What the heck? How did you get in my house? I am gay. Please stop hurting me. Well, we can also say that's not Thomas's body. Like his arms are not that length.

Like this man's very- Is this a deep fake? This is- It feels like- Mean view boy is buying cameos and then deep faking people? Confirmed. Is this a hate crime? I think it is a hate crime. Honestly, I'm glad we were able to expose it I saw another video he bought with Bianca and she started singing She started seeing I think she Rick rolled them like she just started singing never gonna give you up. Mm-hmm I said doctor will do that one time but like but I'm not quite sure why. You know, now I'm questioning everything I just saw.

No, this is really David talking about chocolate milk. This is a warning for all future Survivor players. Don't do this. You can deny cameos. Yes. Okay. But this is David really talking about international chocolate milk. I watched this video.

Okay. This is legit. This is also from meme view boy. Talk to David from survivor for you I wish this was AI I know and as far as like what brands like I know stay away from the pre-made stuff, man You got to make it yourself. You got to have just whole milk Hershey's chocolate syrup and that's been my go-to It served me well throughout my years the pre-made stuff like to chocolatey and to sugary

So I like to make it myself and some days I'm feeling a little bit more Chocolatey than others sometimes I want it to be a little more refreshing Maybe I just got after the gym and I want it to be a little more lighter So you gotta make yourself the organic good stuff does taste better especially being on what country you're in like Japan for example when I lived in Japan they had incredible milk and every time I travel to a new country like everybody wants to What does this cameo say? Hey David, can you just vamp about chocolate milk for two minutes?

Oh, no. At some point, he starts dragging Anika in them and telling them that they should have found food on the island. I'm serious. He's going to just like seamlessly transition into, you know what? I found cassava plant on the island. Anika, do you even know where the almonds are? Sample the wines and all this crazy stuff, and I just want to know what their milk tastes like I

Didn't get hungry Because as you can see I was providing for my tribes like I was doing a pretty good job of finding food out there Which by the way what I say I don't know why you have so many game bots that go out there You know so much about strategy and all these things about survivor and yet they know nothing about surviving It's like dude. Well like is that how top 90 survivor podcasts made their list of like enough of these game bot podcasts What about actually surviving? Okay, right real real AF And I saw the cassava plants like our one of hitting the sea of a beach Because our one googles the floor on the fauna of the region did my homework did my research

It was able to locate food that was supplying my tribe for what pretty much the entire time. I was out there Okay, now. Why did he do this no one asked for this? You don't know what you can Boy asked for on Tameo? You cannot tell me Mean View was like, elaborate on the cassava plant. There's no way. Crazy how easy that was to be deep faked too. And it just, that one wasn't deep faked. That he gave me so many different directions.

I'm like, why did they deep fake Thomas and not this man talking about international milks? Who was listening to that fully? I guess our listeners. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. Like I said, Bianca just starts singing in hers. You know, she does her like, hey, make sure you subscribe to Meanview. And then she just starts singing, gonna give you up, you know

I do need to get to know on this with David about the cassava Yeah, find out what's going on about these international milks. Okay. He said you gotta make your own Anika, of course, it's episode 5 coming up. Okay, it's Anika week on Survivor what do you predict is gonna happen because they've been advertising a very emotional exciting episode. With the Jeff. Jeff was crying and I haven't seen him cry since you got eliminated, right? So I was like, come on, what's going on? I shed a tear, he shed a tear back.

I am holding hands. I am, but we... I can maybe guess that it was also speculated in one of the previews that Eva maybe gets a little bit frustrated at one of the challenges. So putting two and two together, it could maybe be thought that Jeff might get a little emotional based on something Eva says. Maybe I know that a lot of people on Reddit were speculating that as well.

That could track, that could play. That could definitely play. Yes. Other than that, I am so curious to know what Jeff could get emotional about. If all of those family visits back in the day, I'm crying while watching them on TV, if Jeff isn't shedding a tear for those,

what is he shedding a tear for? Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. But a part of me really wants it to be completely the opposite, right? Like we know the emotional moment is right there, but wouldn't it be crazy if Jeff just started crying about something that was like, I just love my job so much.

If something like that happened, I would lose it. David, you finished so quickly. Yeah. Like, it's watching you do these challenges. It's true. This is why I come out here. David, you're like so strong. You're like so fucking strong.

He's like, David mentions his girlfriend and just like, you know, you deserve better, kid. You deserve better. Pick up your crown. You dropped your crown. Put your crown, drop your crown. You studied the flora and the fauna. You studied the cassava. Do you hate the game bots? I too hate the game bots.

What if someone got injured? If it's that bad where Jeff got a cry, Jeff has watched people damn near die on this show and be like, all right, we're gonna next challenge. Or if it's like a heartfelt moment where someone's helping someone else, you know, it really could be anything. Could be anything. Yeah.

You're right. A lot of things that made me cry watching the show and Jeff's never cried, so. Unmovable. This man has never flinched when it comes to somebody like, I mean, like we've dragged people out of the game, like, you know, like, I don't know. Yeah. 50s coming up. Maybe that's so maybe somebody misses 50. He's like my life's work.

I do bring them back. You know, I don't know, but I'm excited. I want it. But I want it to be something absurd. You know, like, don't get me wrong, we get a lot of emotional moments in the new era for sure. I like that they flesh out a lot of people's stories in ways that they didn't used to, right? There were people who would be on the show and you wouldn't even know they were on the show. And the new era has done a really good job of just making sure you know something about everybody. Yeah. And so we've seen that they've highlighted Mitch, we've seen that they've highlighted Eva, and so those two are obvious. But if it's just ridiculous and off the wall, I would love that

even more. All right. Annika, you have a prediction of who's next to go? Who's next? Who's joining the fire club? This is tough. If we were to think it's going to be a puzzle, I think, you know, the Vula tribe might be in trouble again, and we might be seeing someone go. If it is the Vula tribe, I might have to guess maybe Shaheen. Unfortunately, you know, he was a threat to Camilla and Kyle. We're at 2-2 now at this point. So that'll also be interesting to see because

there's no advantages. If we're in a 2-2 deadlock, that'll be very fun to watch. If we see the Siva tribe go, that's the one with Cedric and Sey and Mitch and Chrissy and Bianca. You know how I feel. I'm worried for Bianca with her no vote. Me, who had her no vote specifically at that lovely fifth spot. specifically at that lovely fifth spot. And then the last one we have the Loggy Tribe, which, you know, they seem pretty strong as a team, competing, they've got some puzzle beasts, and they've got some strength.

So, Anika, can I just bounce off of you real quick, my latest working thoughts on the journey. If I'm in the pre-merge of a Survivor season, I avoid the journey at all costs. I could do anything in my power to get out of it. It's like jury duty. I'm doing anything I can to skip it. Break a leg. That is the one piece of advice I'm probably telling anyone. Do not, you do not need to go on a journey In the pre-merge. Yeah

Guys I have diarrhea I can't go It does arm popped out and they still make Kevin's arm seconds before and they still made him go they were like, alright That was so mean of their tribe. Justin calling out, I'm sorry, Justin, but calling Kevin out after you witnessed that, you don't wanna play survivor. Are you kidding me? You're pushing that on your tribe?

What? Yeah, that's what made me about Justin. But yeah, like the ones about Justin and well, Bianca volunteered from her tribe, but Justin was picked and it was- Did they do the hand thing? Camilla, yep, getting picked. When you have no choice, that sucks.

Especially on the day you're going to tribal because those hours are so limited before when you're talking strategy to be gone for most of it. I would be so stressed if I was in Justin's position. Yeah. What's the upside? Like, who's this working out great for? Like, maybe Mitch.

But I mean, but Mitch has like a known advantage now. So even like that's the best case scenario of like Mitch is a person who's going to come to the merge and people know he has an advantage. Which could either help or hurt him. Like it could be, we know Mitch has an advantage with blinds. Yeah. So, all right, we'll see. Annika, anything else on your mind?

I have so many things on my mind, Rob, but for now, keep it as is. You got something fun? No, I think we're good. I think we're, I'm feeling good about what's coming this week. Do you have a lot of non-survivor thoughts on your mind? Um, like, let me think. Any non-survivor thoughts? Just give us a peek into what's going on inside.

What's going on in my brain? Yeah. It is... What's a non-survivor thought you're thinking? I'm trying to think of some good tea for you guys. I have some adventures. I'm going to our happen a couple of weeks. So you guys in Boston, I'm so excited for that. A couple of our survivor San Francisco group is doing a bonfire tonight.

Very survivor theme. As well as Linden Machete. You think I'm joking, I'm not. Bonica fire. I'm Bostonica to Bonica. We're doing it. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So yeah, those are some fun things. But those are still survivor related. What's a non-survivor thing that's going on? Yeah, what you're watching on TV these days? What's one of your shows that's not survivor?

Not Yellow Jackets. Not Yellow Jackets. Not Yellow Jackets. I just finished Love is Blind. Okay. And I got the tea. I recently got targeted TikTok that if I don't know if you guys have seen this season, but two of, okay, two of the couples that didn't make it to the altar, they, or they made it to the altar, but they, you know, didn't get married. The girl from one and the guy from one are now seeing each other. Oh my God. So we went, yeah, we couple jumped. So that was some hot tea that I found out. For those

who do watch Love is Blind and want to know what I'm talking about, Joey and Sarah were coxing and kissing together. Yeah. Oh my God. That's funny. You know, Asia covers Love is Blind for here on RHAP. Oh, of course. She's my girl. A hundred percent.

Yeah. Does that ever happen with Survivor? It's like you have a two person alliance and, and then me and Chappelle have a two person alliance and then all of a sudden like the two people that were in our two person alliance, like this season of partnerships, does that ever happen where like this split up and then there's a new two person alliance and it's super awkward? It's definitely possible. And that would be great television. Oh yeah, for sure. You imagine getting swapped away from your number one and then you come

back and they have a new number one. You're like, excuse me? Yes. Tribe swaps. Imagine. Oh, that's another fun thing. Who's going to be close coming to the merge? Are people sticking with their original tribes? Are they not sticking with their original tribes? Right. And who's going to be that person who doesn't make the merge but kind of makes the merge? You know what I'm saying?

Don't you hate that spot? Yeah, like I hate that spot. I think that's the worst spot to be in. Yeah. Okay. Would you rather almost make the merge or almost make the jury though? You know what I'm saying? Like- Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Would you rather almost make the merge or almost make the jury though? You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, my spot as number five really sucks

because it's the one right before you hit the merge. And it's just like, oh my God, I was so close to experiencing it, but it's almost worse when you do get a taste of the merge and you still don't get to go on and experience what it's like to be on the journey. So I really do feel for that spot. Okay. All right. Annika, you want to tell people to check anything out that you're doing? Oh, that's so fun. Yeah. Where can, where can people like meme view boy get your cameos from you? Yeah. I'm active on TikTok and Instagram, a decent amount at onicalia. You can find me there for more onica updates. Okay. All right. Of course, we have so much survivor goodness

coming your way over on the survivor podcast feed. In addition to all of the Australian Survivor, of course, we had Maryann on the B&B this week. Y blank lost. We had Kelly Nalbandian on with me. I spoke with Thomas. We had the know-it-alls. And still to come, my interview with Todd Herzog. That's all at weknowsurvivor.com. And if you are keeping up with the White Lotus, check out Josh Wiggler and I are recapping each week of the White Lotus over on weknowscriptedtv.com. Chappelle, what's coming up for you? This week, the Nothing But Netflix podcast is going to be covering the new hit Netflix

show. I say new hit, even though it hasn't dropped yet, but it's gonna be a hit. I can tell you right now, it's gonna be great. Million dollar secret. They're all in the house. One person gets a million dollars. They got a vote amount so they can get the million dollars.

And a million dollars gets passed around into the last person who has the million dollars, wins the game. It's so much fun. It's messy. It's strategic. Oh yeah. And it's gonna be a good watch.

And so go check it out on Netflix. They're dropping the first batch this week. And then come join Brian Scali and I as we talk about it on Nothing But Netflix this week. Yeah, and go to, I don't know if you got the word. We just got a new URL for you, okay? It's at, go to nothingbutpod.com. No, didn't know that.

Yeah, okay. So just got it today. So check that out, nothingbutpod.com. So just got it today. So check that out. Nothingbutpod.com. All right. Thank you so much for joining us. We love to read your comments here on if you're watching us here on YouTube. If you're not, check it out.

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