RHAP: We Know Survivor - Anika Dhar on Survivor B&B: Survivor 49 Episode 12

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Anika Dhar on Survivor B&B: Survivor 49 Episode 12 With a new Survivor season upon us, it’s time for Mike Bloom and Liana Boraas to re-open the RHAP B&B! On the B&B, Mike and Liana are inspired by the lighter side of Survivor, featuring a series of segments and games based on what’s happening on Survivor that week. This week, Mike and Liana are joined by Survivor 49 contestant Anika Dhar for Episode 12 of Survivor 49! This week’s charity shoutout is The Nature Conservancy, which aims to conserve the lands and waters on which all life depends. Click here to make a one-time or monthly donation. If you have any suggestions for games or feedback for the B&B, feel free to reach out to us on social media or email [e-mail]. To pre-order Rob’s book, The Tribe and I Have Spoken, visit www.robhasabook.com Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

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Mike and the Yon gotta play in some games. Let a pray to your mama that they're not to play and if that all sounds cool I can tell you the name It's the R-H-A-B-M-A-B-M-A-M-B-A-M- Hi everybody and welcome to the R-H-A-P-R-H-P B&B for week 12 of Survivor 49. My name is Mike Bloom. We were talking about the penultimate episode of Survivor 49.

And we'll be talking about the penmanship of some of these family members, as it is the biggest reward of the season. And one of the biggest question marks coming out of this episode, or should I say many of them. Leanna Boyce, I can't say we promise answers, but at least we promise discussion of said question. Yeah, exactly. You know, I think we'll try to do better than Stephen did in the dark room full of coffee tables and shit.

He was a pair of shins and a dark. Anyway, whatever. We'll break all that down, I'm sure, too. That felt like one of those idle phrases from 41 and 42. It really did. Yeah, exactly. I was like, it's Stephen about to get an idol here? Well, we talk about being left in the dark to being left in the dar as we are talking with our guest this week from Survivor 47.

And certainly I think a lot of the fan base was left with a. reaction similar to hers when she was blindsided memorably in Survivor 47. It is the one, the only Onika Dark. Hi, Mike. Hi, Leona. I'm so excited to be here today. That was so clever, Mike, and so quick of you. Thank you.

Dark. Oh, my God, I love it. Well, are you loving Survivor 49 so far? It's weird to say so far because, like, we are three hours away, but like, we basically are at the end. There's only one episode left. So now that the season has pretty much taken its full shape, what are your thoughts been about it. I'm going to be honest. And I think what I'm about to say is everyone maybe had the

same opinion. It started out slower. And it's really, really picked up in the merge. I think even Jeff is aware of it. And last episode, the one we're about to talk today, I really enjoyed. Like, it got me hooked. And I'm happy that it's the episode that we get to talk about today. Because there was a lot of, a lot that happened and a lot to chat about. Yeah. It really does feel like the season. The season is continuously picked up as we've gotten closer and closer to the end. And I think for me personally, I think it's a lot of how do we get there,

like trying to understand how this story is going to unfold. And it's been fun to learn how these pieces have fallen into place. And I think especially in this episode, like I almost was like, what on earth is going to happen? It felt like there was sort of a foolproof situation.

Then we have, you know, like what in space is going to happen. What, I know, much to Stephen's chagrin. But I just, it was so interesting to see like Sophie at the reward being like oh maybe I won't make the move and then slowly but surely you see sage being like taking out Sophie's not really in my best interest christina is also there so like there's just a lot of really interesting things that we've seen unfold especially in this episode that i think are kind of like leading us towards what the finale might might have my favorite

type of survivor episodes are when you can put yourself in the perspective of everyone and then also choose what you think the best move is for everyone versus episodes that are kind of edited to only feature one person's point of view. And, you know, credit to the editors, I think they did a good job of this episode, really putting ourselves in the perspective of almost every single player. And also, again, where it's not set up that we know what's happening. You know, there, of course, if you're a big fan, you kind of understand the edit. I think this episode did a good job of giving us, like you said, what's going to happen, what's she going to do? they really are seeing the internal debates of each side.

So, but I think, as you said, though, this led to one of the most surprising outcomes, where I think it's not like a complete shock. Oh my God, where did this Stephen thing come from? Like, it was set up. I just think in the moment people were mistaking it for the red herring of like, well, it's clearly a soapy vote. He's going to play the block of O

and they'll be able to get one over on this trio finally. But this was the catch of the day instead of the red herring. And I think that maybe on paper the idea of making, you know, every episode 90 minutes can be tough, especially when you get down to six people. There's certainly been some talk when 90 minutes first came around of like, you're really going to do a 90 minute episode around six people. But I think that's something that it benefits from to both of your points is the fact that we do get a lot of perspectives from those six people. Being able to at least shed some light as to like, why are they making these individual decisions?

Because they are individual decisions at the end of the day. Yes, we're talking about, again, this trio that cannot keep getting away with this, but there's individual perspectives within there that need to be addressed. And so I do appreciate, as admittedly frustrating as some of it might be, if you are looking to kind of shake up the status quo, which is weird to say that the status quo was like, hey, this group that was down 7.3 is now making their way into the final five, and that was the status quo.

But for people that were looking to have that shaken up, at least we got to hear the logic a little bit behind why people were doing what they're doing, even if, as you said, Anika, you personally disagree with why they didn't. Exactly. Exactly. Well, and that's been one of my biggest frustrations with the season is the editing of, we only get to see one perspective, or we don't get the logic why someone might really actually consider making certain decisions. Like, it just feels like it's like, yeah, it could be this, could be that.

but I was like, no, I heard Sage say, to me, getting rid of Sophie does not benefit my game. I want to sit at the end with her and with Christina so that logical outcome then is Stephen. You get to hear Sophie at the reward saying these bonds are so, like I'm so close with these people. You know, I have, and she said this, I think in a previous episode as well, where I'm closer with Rizzo and Savannah than I am with some people back home. So we get to see. Like real burn on some people back home, you know? I know, right? Do you think they know?

Do they think the people at home are like, oh, I think that. That's me. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I was like, if I was one of Sophie's best friends and I heard that, I'd be really doubting my friend. And it's actually really bad that she didn't say their names because then it's the worst outcome because now everybody thinks it. You know, if you at least identify someone, at least some of these people can exhale,

be like, at least I'm not Brian. I will say what's going to be interesting, too, moving into final tribal, to your point of like we are seeing everyone's inside perspectives. but when you're out there playing you aren't getting that thought process you're just seeing what Sophie ended up choosing to do and so it will be really interesting whoever makes it to final tribal and them having to explain maybe this thought process that they did have that we got to see that you know the people playing out didn't and especially Sophie I think that's an absolutely fantastic point right the jury only sees so much

much. And I should guess I should say so little. So their last memory is Sophie of Sophie, let's say, completely misplaying her knowledge is power. Right. Like that's the last thing that they see, which is so, I felt so bad for her. I was like, oh, girl. Like, I'm so, I have secondhand embarrassment for you. I mean, even Jeff on the podcast is like, she, she didn't do anything wrong. Like, this was an advantage that had to be played before tribal council. She couldn't have known that She was, damn it, she got defeated by us, which is like kind of an odd L for Jeff to cop, but I appreciate it.

Yeah, totally. It's unfortunate for Sophie in the edit and also for the jury because they don't see all of her confessionals thinking, hey, I might want to take a shot at Savannah. Hey, I might want to take Rizzo's Idol. And they're only seeing her flop, which, oh, I felt for her.

I really felt her. You saw it on her face. just sink immediately. Oh, I know. She was pissed. She was so angry. And I would be, too. I would be showcased.

Oh, I know 100% my face would be. And that's the thing. Could we say, tentately speaking, is this a revenge-fueled vote? Like a lot of them have been this season where it's immediate revenge, but, you know, Sophie in the voting booth is at least like, I was already planning to vote for you. But like, now I hope you really go home because you humiliating me. Yeah. Feels that much sweeter.

I'm like, God damn it, Stephen. Um, but then I think also for Sophie, right, it, you, you also know that Rizzo has had this, I mean, from the jury, okay, from the jury's perspective, right? Like, the move on Steven, first of all, would have been great if it worked. But imagine stealing Rizzo's idol, right? Like, it's like you actively chose to go for some potential vote advantage instead of an idol. So then that also, like even if it did work, like let's say she was able to steal the block of vote, then if I was a juror, I, be like, but girl, you could have had an idol. What are we doing here? I'm so selfishly wish she did that only because it would have made such great TV. Like, I'm aware that maybe it wouldn't have been the best for her game when there was still a chance

to go home at five, but oh, man, would it have made entertaining television. If anything, it would have been to just be like, so we can stop talking about this freaking idol. Like, Rizzo, glue your pants to your seat at this point. Stop getting up. ceremonial sake, we all know you're not going to play it. Let's not, you know, have a horse and pony show right now. I'm going to play this idol to just get it out of the way so that you don't

have anything to deal with anymore. But does that cause chaos at five if everyone's searching for it? Because it doesn't go back in. I actually don't know this answer. Mike, you might know better than me. If an idol gets played at six, does one get still in play at five? Yeah, I mean, technically speaking, but that would also be an amazing lie for the weird like narrative that they were able to sway the rest of the competition with which is like oh no this one is special

this one expires at six like maybe theoretically they're like well there can't be one at five this one expired at six there's no real idols here right or anyone in the bottom could really lie with that and be like I found something yeah yeah and bluff with that and then you have to decide and we know that this is a group

that doesn't seem to want to take the risk on flushing an idol right because sometimes some seasons they'll just be like we're just going to pile votes if they play it fine that's fine we'll deal with the consequences like we want to flush this idol uh this group seemingly not so much so who knows i think that could be a very real possibility um but yeah i mean i think like rizzo's show is so been so interesting i'm just i really want to know how the jury is perceiving it because we don't really get to see that right i would love a second show of being like what the jury is talking about when they get back to ponderosa during the

show not after like only game talk i mean like i don't want to necessarily you know uh burst any preconceived notions i mean stephen did talk to me as well as a couple of the other people on exa press this week about how apparently the jury you know the wtf reaction they had this week when rizzo decided to stretch his legs apparently they've had that reaction a good amount of times when rizzo was doing his things so maybe that does necessarily extrapolate out to the overall thoughts about his game, but it does seem like, you know, he's not necessarily doing a Rick Devin's, oh, I'm really entertaining the jury. If I think the jury's like, can I change the channel on this and spend the 10-hour stream of Rizzo not playing his idol? Right. Okay. So the three of us right now,

do we think Rizzo is going to use his idol next week? Or... I think he has to, right? You think no matter what he's going to play. Here's a thing. He could be so risky as to play it on somebody else. Oh, my God. Imagine. Imagine. Like, this is a guy who's been able to wield implicit immunity like a baton for the better part of seven weeks. Like, he could just say, okay, everyone assumes that I'm going to play it. So, like, if I just throw it onto Sophie, then that, like, guarantees the three of us make it one step further.

Yeah. Another thing about Rizzo is I do deem him to be such a likable player. I know the jury does have, like, various reactions to him talking about the idol. But there's so many other players who would have walked up to Jeff. physically walked up to Jeff to like almost play an idol, not even like from his seat, like walking up, that action there can be marked as so obnoxious for so many other people. But it just goes to show I think Rizzo is doing a pretty good job that he's not marking himself as obnoxious as that action would be on other people.

Yes, but. Okay, yeah, tell me about. Uh-oh. Why, when Stephen is viscerally blindsided by everyone, including his own act, allies. Does Rizzo have the gall to say with his full bird-like chest, Gigi, Stephen? Oh my God. That was so funny. Like, I honestly think it's done sincerely. Otherwise, like, that is kind of a dick move. They're like, uh, Gigi, like tea bag. G, G, G, G, G's. You get him next time, champ. It's a little condescending. I think, like, I just think that's part of Rizzo's lexicon. Like,

I don't think that he intended it in any negative way. I would be a bit salty. I think if somebody said that to me when I was on my way out. We all know I would be so salty. Yeah. And also like it's just speaking to that like, you know, again, if the perception is like, oh, this is just like some kid. Yeah.

If someone said Gigi, like I don't care what age you are. You look now 10 years younger if you actually sincerely use the term Gigi to me after you blindside me. but like imagine i mean step i mean stephen had a roller coaster of a tribal council imagine going in thinking it is full proof like your plan is full proof you've played it you've stolen the boat or blocked the boat you're you've got your majority you're all ready to go sophy turns around he gets to do this little wink thing where he's like i already played a girl i already played and then you go home unanimously.

Like, what whiplash from that? I just, oh, I felt so bad for him in the moment. Yeah, it's the meme of the guy like celebrating and spraying himself in Champaign when he was third place the entire time. Like, Stephen did not know that it was going to be a unanimous vote against him. So he is doing all of these things and he is going through the emotional roller coaster. As you mentioned, Leanna, like, I don't know. Maybe it would be a better outcome for his emotional state if he didn't play the block of a vote

and had it stolen, you know? Like, it's better to have lost than to have used it and realize that it was in futility. Right. Completely. I do think for Stephen, though, there was a path to winning.

So I do understand why everyone voted him out. Like, I think it was very valid because there is a path in which he was a very good competitor and all the challenges. And he was, you know, I thought he was pretty strategic. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.

We talked about this and, you know, at least they did in the past couple of episodes as to why they wanted to target Stephen was that he was really good in challenges he had been playing the middle a little bit he was really likable to everybody and I would imagine as well if I am this trio and I'm looking on the jury and I see

MC and I see Alex and I see Sophie and maybe a Christina is on there as well and a sage it's like oh yeah Stephen has this locked up so that's the thing too and again they build the logic in that in retrospect shines a little bit more of Stephen clearly is, from their perception,

specifically Sage and Christina's, a bigger threat to keep in the game than the idea of this trio, quote, quote, sticking together. I'm glad that Sage outlined her end game plan. I feel like we don't see that a lot in Survivor, honestly, where we have people say, I want to go to the end of these people. I think it's because the editors don't want to necessarily ruin the outcome

by being like, well, the final three was preordained from this date. but that did help again you could disagree with the decision itself but at least we are seeing some of the rationale as to okay we don't know how riso is being perceived as a threat on the island we have a very good perspective as to how stephen was perceived as a threat on the on the island well and i think especially say like if i'm i'm trying to put myself in sage's shoes like i think onica what you said which is i can understand why in each individual person made the decision that they did like i'm thinking okay i'm in sage's shoes and I, of course, see Stephen as a bigger threat than Sophie, right?

We know that. So for her, it's not even really about the trio. It's about I want to sit at the end with Sophie. Then Sophie goes and embarrasses herself with the knowledge of power. Why would I, like, even if I'm sage and I'm on the fence about voting between Stephen or Sophie, oh, I'm absolutely voting for Stephen because Sophie just embarrassed herself and Stephen just would have had what looked like an amazing play where he, would have played an advantage, got that advantage, like didn't get the advantage stolen,

right, which also looks cool and then stays and votes out the person who tried to eliminate him. Like, that looks badass. So even if I was on the fence as Sage, I'm still, or I'm, I'm switching my vote to Stephen because if I'm trying to think about who I'm stacking up against, you're at the final six. There's no, I mean, you're going to sit next to two of those people, right? So, like, your options are particularly limited. And it's seems like Sage's path to the end. She has a very clear two people she wants to sit next to you. So that means for her, Rizzo and Savannah have to go next.

So Stephen would be the only other option. Yeah. I think that's perfect logic for Sage's perspective. Another note on Sage, I'm loving every single thing she is saying to everyone who's getting voted out. I icon energy A plus. I love the energy she's giving. I do find that sometimes it seems almost a little.

fake in just saying like, which is well, considering that she was very real the time she denied Shannon a hug. Yes, yes. That's where it started. That was just peak. I will not get better than that, in my opinion. But even just acknowledging I'm sorry or I'm bitter or I'm upset or any of the

emotions, she is showing it immediately and I respect that so much. Even in this episode, after Rizzo doesn't play the idol, or I can't remember exactly at what point during trial. flippin' turd. Oh, I love the no filter. That is why I'm watching reality television. And it's interesting because you can also say on paper, like, is she giving an in-person goodbye message, right?

By being like, Stephen, by the way, I voted you out to it because I thought I could beat you. Like, just remember that. Don't remember that I betrayed you. Just remember this final thought. Instead of, you know, it's a good use of the time instead of everyone throwing out the usual plaids. You're like, love you. You're great.

G. G. She does. it's a good move she does end up at the end right like you have no contact from ponderosa only you're seeing as at the jury so the last final message does make a difference because when you leave you're sitting and thinking and reflecting on everything of why what happened happened you're not going to get answers until someone else comes back to ponderosa so there's some time of you just pondering in your brain of what the heck just happened it's nice to have some answers yeah yeah

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Yeah, and I was like, stop. I was like, yes. I was like, get your answers before you leave. Yeah, exactly. Then you have more of the puzzle, right? I did see a little bit of, not controversy, but discussion on social media because when Jeff calls for idols or advantages,

Rizzo immediately asks like Savannah and Sophie, did you have your vote blocked? And some people felt like you shouldn't talk during that period. Do you feel like, do you agree with them? Do you feel like this should be like a cone of silence should be enacted unless someone actually decides to play something? I support it. I think that it's a tricky question

because a lot of people were upset with how I also reacted. I got a lot of feedback that I should have just left immediately and not asked or said anything. Those people don't like good TV. I agree with that, but also presently being there.

This didn't make the edit, but I did ask Jeff, am I allowed to say this? And I do believe Rizzo, in a couple of moments, have also said, like, do I have my two seconds? like can I say like I think there is like a gut check period and if something wasn't happening all of production could step in that's my take um and it does make good TV like it's so

entertaining to watch uh so I I'm okay with it I'm on the side of how do I phrase this like I think you're playing outside of the box of the game um and if there's not a direct rule told to us of what you can and cannot do, I think it's free play. Yeah. I would agree with that rule of cool. I mean, you know, you, and that also is like,

where do you extend the boundaries, right? Like, could we get Natalie Anderson's, Jacqueline, did you vote for who I told you to vote for if this rule was in effect? Right, exactly. And I do think, like, they don't explicitly tell us we can't. And there are guidelines out there that we have to follow.

So it's not like he's breaking. a rule by any means. Yeah, I'm okay with it as well. Again, team good TV, so it's some great moments. I'm all on board. Well, we talked about Sophie's, I haven't even

say Foppa, but at least getting egg on her face at tribal council, but let's talk about her getting a shredded cheese and beef all over her face at the reward here, because I think something that took other people to perhaps even more umbrage with, which again, the knowledge of power kind of out of her hands because Steve's advantage

was out of his hands at that point. But I think people were intrigued by, again, her being, entertaining the concept of possibly turning on this twosome and felt so bonded by a trip to the sanctuary where good things happen, including an ironclad alliance being made and formally named. And she decides to reveal to them

that she has knowledge of power. And it leads to a very fun sequence where we sort of get like the summer nights from Greece where the two alliances are being like, well, I've got a block of a vote. Well, I've got to. knowledge is power and they're trying to figure out how to how to utilize them but i think some people felt you kept this a secret for so long even when you were working so tightly with them

why tell them now uh honica gray or disagree with that sorry mike what was the question i was thinking sorry as you were talking i literally was thinking about the importance of this episode and how like on my my season operation italy and like the rewards and the letters just plays so such an important part of the game and how it really changes up things. Like this, the sleepaway sanctuary loved love letters we're seeing in the new era being so, so, so vital and game changing that time away. So then what did you think of Operation Mexico? Did you think Sophie should have told them about Knowledge of Power?

Yeah, see, I go back and forth, obviously, but I do put my myself in Sophie's shoes and I understand why she did what she did and the emotions that are coming from the love letters and also the bond that you're feeling with those people and how natural it feels to trust. And especially if she's feeling that she is on the bottom of this trio, this is the one action she needed to feel more solidified. And no matter what, it is easier to, if she is searching for that connection, for the one signal to tell her that I'm with these people and it's not a two and a one it's i'm with these three if your brain is searching for that once you've kind of locked it in your in your mind like i have this i do understand

why she felt so comfortable um whether or not it was a great move you know it can go both either ways like it could have if she didn't tell them it could have hurt her vice versa if she ended up choosing to use it and then they felt you know betrayed by her like why didn't you tell us about it Like, it could have gone so many different ways for her, from a strategic standpoint. But if we put ourselves in Sophie's shoes, it did make sense in the moment. And I probably would have done the same. Mike, would have the other thing or both of you? Well, I mean, I was just going to say, like, at the end of the day, Survivor is a social game.

Like, it is all about social relationships. And I think, sure, you can look at it from a pure strategic perspective. Like, if I'm thinking about it, no emotion involved, I'm stealing Rizzo's idol, Maybe, like, of course I'm going to do that. But that completely negates and devoids all of those relationships that Sophie has built out there on the island. How close she is to Savannah. How close she is to Rizzo. And I think that that's a lot more difficult to show on TV.

Like, it's so hard to show a bond between two people. You know what I mean? To really show that. Well, so there's some of our best friends in real life. Yeah. Yeah. See? When did you tell your best friend you have knowledge is power?

See? Um, so yeah. Or what was the name of the kid that Sophie's not friends with anymore? Oh, Brian. Brian, yeah. It's also a fear of like losing that friendship. Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. No, 100%. I absolutely agree with that. And that's the thing is, again, it's because it's about social relationships. To her, the stakes are higher than just the game, right? Because she's a human and cares about other people. Like, God forbid she care about the feelings of the people that she's gotten close to. Yeah.

I think, you know, I'm sure there are strategic reasons behind it. You know, we'll get the chance to talk with Sophie and hear that perspective. But I really honor that I think there is an emotional and personal tie to it as well. And especially, as you said, Anika, given the weight that comes with this, right? It's really tough to look at someone and say, like, thank you so much for letting me get contact with the outside world for the first time in 21 days. I'm going to vote you out now. Like, some people are able to, you know, have those two thoughts at once.

but I imagine it's a lot easier said than done, considering how much gratitude you have attached to that person in that moment. And whether that led to her admitting this, it could have been something as well where she's like, I need to think of a way I could use this. And I know that Rizzo might be able to think of a more, you know, effective way. So let me try to throw something out to him or we could use our advantages in conjunction or anything like that.

She might have made it more of a cooperative effort, which the tough thing is that she has kept it such a secret. it so far, and it does seem, again, just spurred on last minute. Again, considering the path that she was going down, is it frustrating for her to suddenly turn back and go down the well-trodden path? Definitely. But I think there is a rationale to why she did, what she did. Not to mention, you know, yes, stealing Rose's idol would have been so amazing,

especially like, imagine this is like high in the sky here, Tris Selleche's cake in the sky. What if she stole Rizzo's idol and, you know, because it was made as a publicist... After telling him that she had the knowledge of power? No, no, no. So she keeps her mouth shut. It's full of Mexican food. So she doesn't say anything. She steal Rizzo's idol.

And so we assume that with that happening, then, you know, maybe a Christina, a Sophie, a sage would throw their votes onto Rizzo instead. And even if they don't, Sophie plays her idol on Steven. Yeah. Oh, my God. Wouldn't that be while? And then it bounces back on her? On Rizzo. Oh, because if one of them, like,

throws a vote on Rizzo. Right, because I think, again, I think he has such implicit immunity that people are just like, we're not going to, the reason why Sophie gets votes, right? It's because they say, well, Savannah's immune, and Rizzo's going to play his idols, so we're just going to vote for Sophie.

Sophie has possession of the idol, but they're not going to go for Sophie. You know what to do. See, these are the scenarios that I love being a fan watching the show because you're like, and you could have done this, this, and this, but out there, it's just so much more nuanced. Oh, yeah, it's about as likely as me

being like, and then you should hop on a unicorn and sail off to the magical treasure land where it's full of marshmallow bits. Yeah, there's also a crazy world that she tells him about the knowledge's power and still steals his idol. That would be amazing. And that would pull

on the next world in personal lens. I told you. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's also, though, if I'm Rizzo, like, pretty big gesture of trust to knowing that Sophie has a knowledge of power like I would have given that thing to Savannah going into tribal council like just in case things go south

you know she told us she had this she just told us she had this she probably had this for a while now why didn't she tell us beforehand right and smart on Stephen can we go to that for a second the fact that he didn't have his block a boat on him

you mean like because he had already played it or did he give it to some tribal? No, he already, so this is, this is where the weird wrinkle is that is unfair to Sophie is that this was one of the only advantages I can think of in Survivor history where it had to be played before they left to go to tribal councils. Like when you see the confessional of Stephen saying, I'm using this on Savannah, like, that is a formal use of the advantage. Oh, like that was played it already technically. So he didn't have it anymore. It's really weird because I feel like 95% of advantages are done in the presence of just. Jeff probes. And as far as I know, Jeff was like not off camera to validate it. So I understand

your confusion on it because it is strange that he's like, okay, I'm playing this. And you're like, yeah, you're going to play it tonight. He's like, nope, I'm playing it this minute right now. Here you go, producer. You know, uh, what was that? Will a vote works that way too. No, so the vote steal. Well, I think it depends. I think that I believe Rachel, I think Rachel maybe had to tell someone before tribal council as well. Yeah. I think that's the story. Yeah, I think so too. also, yeah. But I feel like I've seen where people play it at Tribal also. Yes.

I mean, the vote steal has happened more often at Tribal, where someone's like, I am stealing Nick and Dave versus Glide, I am stealing Allison's vote. Stephen Fishback, I'm stealing Joe's vote. Like, you have to make a public decoration for it. I could see both sides of why they did this. It does create a bit more of a surprise of like,

oh, I didn't realize you had this thing as opposed to making such a public gesture. and you could look around and granted in this outing things were outed of like immediately oh savannah's vote was blocked and seems like yeah i did it uh but you know otherwise you could keep that hidden but it does come at the expense again of like there's no way to really combat it uh and i guess maybe a downside of playing it so early is like things could absolutely change on a dime like stephen could have blocked savannah's vote and then what if savanna pulls stephen aside of tribal council is like i'm going to make a move i'm voting with you and he's

like, oh, sorry, can I take that back real quick, Jeff? I want to change my mind about something. Right. And imagine if that did happen. Like, that would be crazy. That would be so crazy. I unplay this invented. Like, no takes you back.

It's within a 30-day period. Can I have that back? There needs to be a series of like the biggest what-ifs that people can create of any different episode of, because as a player, obviously, would go back and do like eight, billion different scenarios for every single vote for every single if someone eight if someone new wins each time so i need i need the craziest most biggest like fans to blow out the most insane scenarios for me well um i do want to bring up uh jeff and jeff's accent because we've so he actually

did this in the apply to be on survivor promo i think maybe last week or the week before. So, and we've seen this, I don't know how to describe it, Mike. Like, I, how would you describe Jeff's accent? It's as if an alien watched like three episodes of Doctor Who and it's like, this is how you speak British.

Like, it's an attempt at it. But it's like a copy of a copy of a copy where it doesn't feel authentic whatsoever. If this person is from the UK, they're from like this remote island right off the tip of Ireland. that has not had communication with other human beings for the past 60 years. It is really bad.

Well, we were welcomed into the laboratory, so. Yeah, part of me kind of feels like Jeff does this for himself, right? Like, I know there's talking about, like, does he make the show for the players? Does he make the show for the audience? Sometimes Jeff, I think, just likes to entertain himself. Like, I welcome these people in every single day. let me try something different. What if I tried a voice?

Yeah, he's not wanting these ideas past anyone. He's just acting. Amazing. Yeah, so they had that. And then he also talked about Othello, right? With like, maybe Christina is doing a fellow with summer theater. That was when Sage was thinking. What question are you asking?

Yeah, I don't know. Okay, Sage also replies with like, that was on my bucket list. What was on her bucket list? Oh, I don't know. I have no idea. Do Othello? to have Jeff speak to her, though. Yeah, like, what a very specific bucket list.

And I want Jeff to do a weird voice in front of me. Right. Ask me a question. I have no idea what he's asking me. Yeah, maybe it was that. Maybe it was like, I want to get Jeff so far down the rabbit hole. I want him to play act of character in front of me that I don't understand what he's asking me at this point. Yeah, there's some, like, the game of how do you get Jeff to do weird stuff?

Easy peasy, apparently. Yeah, check on 48. Get Jeff to, yeah. Use that like a running checklist for all players. Yeah, I mean, maybe it's something where it's like, it's the opposite perspective of the idle phrases where it's like, I'm going to get Jeff to do something fun. I'm going to push him to do something weird.

Maybe Sage was actually prompting him off screen and it didn't make the edit where she's like, Jeff, I love that laboratory voice. Can you bring it back more? Do that. Can you ask me your next question and that voice, please? Thank you. Well, before we get into our usual fare on the B&B, I'd be remiss not to ask all of our thoughts as to what we think is going to happen on the finale. As much as we have been wishcasting this past little while, I do want to have a somewhat grounded in realism here with the gravity of a neutron star, much like our bereaved, Stephen. What do you think, Onica? Because right now we are at the final five.

And this trio seemingly has stuck together. Tress Lechase is maintaining its structure at this moment. The cake has not collapsed in on itself. Do you think it's as simple as these are the final three or do you think there's going to be some hiccups along the way? Well, I think within the three, Savannah's edit has set her up perfectly to keep on saying, I keep on getting a targeted,

and I have maneuvered myself around the vote so many different times. And I think that does lead her to a final thing. three i think it's i think it's her edit is giving her that she's making the final three between the rest of the players it's very interesting um i don't have a ton of faith in christina's game at this moment um i don't think the jury is was it when stephen just straight up called her a sloppy player yeah was that was that was that been just a hint i mean yeah maybe just a hint of that uh yeah So, and I, I do think that the jury is probably reading exactly what Stephen is saying. And now that Stephen's back at Ponderosa, I'm sure he's saying the exact same thing.

That's the other thing, too, is like, even if that wasn't the perception, Stephen can be like, she did this, she did this. Or like, oh, actually, you know, Christine is sloppier than I thought she would be. Yeah, oh, having that as a plus one, I feel, or as an alliance member as number one, I feel for that. I like, I like that. It's very, like, wedding invitation code. You're my plus one. You're not my ride or die. I have six weddings next year, Mike.

It's all, it's on my mind. Six weddings. Some survival players. Oh, my God. I feel like you're Catherine Hegel in 27 dresses. That's what I feel like. Yeah, two maid of honors. It's kind of crazy.

Anyway, plus one. That's my new saying. I'm not number one. Plus one. But, yeah, I feel very strongly about Savannah. I think Rizzo and Sophie and Sage have a similar-ish edit in which it's very interesting because all of them at some point

except maybe Rizzo have compared themselves to Savannah right so that being included in the edit prompts me to think yeah I'm curious how it's going to end right because if you include that and Savannah doesn't make it to the end you know I think they do have have a pretty good chance.

So it's like, are we prepping for either Sage or Sophie to make a successful move against who they were targeting? Or does Savannah make it, you know? So those are, I think, the two sides of what we're seeing in the edit and it could go either way.

I think I look at two key factors. One is what I hear other players say about, so like what Mike would say about me, for example, instead of what I would say, I'll only get thank y'all. But instead of what I would say about myself, right? I hear Rizzo talking himself up a lot, but I hear a lot of other people talk about how great Savannah is.

Right. So that to me is like, okay, Savannah to me is a clear favorite. Now the debate is can she get there? And I go to immunity challenges because they're so critical that from here, if she wins final five immunity, then she either has a shot to win final four immunity or she's going into fire. So then she's got two opportunities at Final Four to save herself. And only Stephen, Sophie, who are both on the jury, have won immunity.

She's the only other person who's one immunity. And I have to imagine that she is at least a top contender for winning Final Four and Final Four immunities, which gives her a clear shot to get to the end. Yeah, because Final Five is most likely going to be, I know the Final Four immunity was this in your season, Onica, but the like typical obstacle course into puzzle at the end, in which they did a little bit in the challenge that Sophie won a couple episodes ago, but Savannah was in it with them.

Yeah, I mean, what's interesting, I'm very interested to see Rizzo at 4 because I assume he's either going to play the idol on himself or played on somebody else and be implicitly safe. But, like, Rizzo has not been good in challenges, and I don't know if he's good at fire. So, like, I think there's an very good chance he ends up going into fire

unless, like, if someone like Savannah wins and he is such a goat that she feels like okay I've got to take him alongside me like he could get thrown in there and all this work could be undone that like the first round of the post murder where he technically is not protected by the idol he gets undone by a one two punch that's like probably the biggest thing that I am watching if he makes it through then I'm really intrigued to see him and Savannah assumingly go up against each other in a final tribal counsel, because I think we have seen so much of what they have both done independently. Like you said, Leon, it's the difference between, like, the person who was really out front

and the person that was able to, like, obscure themselves more and work behind the scenes, which ends up being, you know, the more respected game. And that's always, always baked in as well to, like, relationships they have, how they feel about people, you know, I think there's been a lot of talk about, like, Savannah being very blunt and direct to the point where Christina is even, like, I don't like that. but does that work with everybody? How will that work in a final tribal council setting as well? You know, every juror is a little different.

Some jurors have to be buttered up. Will Savannah have that crock of, you know, can't believe it's not butter next to her. I'm not entirely sure. So honestly, like, I assuming that things carry out the way that is expected, I'm more intrigued by a final tribal council than maybe I have been in quite some time in Survivor. and if that's not the case and I'll be even more intrigued. If Savannah and Rizzo

were out of five and four then it's like, all right, this much stage is dream scenario but like will this become her nightmare? Is this really a walk-in for her? Savannah and Rizzo are reminding me of a little bit of Dean Austin

and what you were saying both of you guys just made me think like in, I think Leona you were saying like everyone's saying that Savannah is a threat. Everyone else is talking about Savannah being a threat but Rizzo is saying that he is playing a good game and Rizzo's also doing

everything he can to protect Savannah. I'm curious if he is aware of how much everyone else, he has to be, everyone's voting for Savannah. He has to at some point be aware that everyone is gunning for Savannah. We haven't heard from Wizzo once that he doesn't want to sit with Savannah at the end.

What is Rizzo's game at the end? So I think Savannah is probably in her head thinking like Rizzo might be a go for her. Yeah, I think that's a very real possibility. I think also if she's, you know, Rizzo gets up and does his little song and dance with the idol,

she might be locking eyes with the jury. How are they responding? How are people reacting? She can notice that body language, notice what people are doing. So I think that there's a very real possibility that Savannah's not concerned with Rizzo beating her or she feels like, look, I can still argue my case. Sure. He's done some cool things with the idol and not playing it and have the balls to not play it.

But I know I've still played a good game. I know that I can make my argument. I think for me, the other thing, again, is the narrative of each, each player. So what I see the editors building up is I see the editors building up Sophie's big move or maybe lack thereof and potentially that being a mistake. There's a very unsettling, foreshadowing potentially moment where she talks about doesn't, she doesn't want to come in third. So noted that.

Thank you, editors. Yes. I see the story from Rizzo and Savannah is like, I'm a good place. I could win for both Rizzo and Savannah. I think both of them have gotten that storyline. So I'm just imagining those two sitting next to each other and battling it out

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And so, hey, Rizzo, if you want to go to the end with me, great, dude, it'll be your folly. As you were on to say, Gigi. Yeah, Gigi's Rizzo. GGs. All right, well, let's start getting into our usual wear and tear here on the B&B. And we've got to go back to the man of the hour and a half. We've got to talk about Stephen Graham, a man among the stars.

But how much of a star was he in the preseason for you, Leanna? What did you think was going to happen to Stephen before this whole shindig kicked off? Yes. So in my preseason prediction, I had Stephen making the jury. I said that Stephen was the ringleader and brains of the majority alliance on Hina,

quickly pulling in Sophie, Jason, and MC to form the Game Sharks Alliance. The group ran Hina pre-merge, and by making Christina feel super comfortable, went into the merge as a strong five-person alliance. Initially, the remaining Uli and Kelle members were nervous to band against the group at Hina. However, the rebellion eventually got going, identifying Stephen as the head of the snake. Stephen has voted out almost unanimously as a major game player and threat to win the game

even his own alliance apart from Jason turned on him his allies were MC Sophie and Jason and his enemy was everyone also go Arapaho Warriors Arapaho Rules Heritage Jules

Boo Heritage Usa which for context Onika Yeah he went to my rival high school So I already He was like, this guy. So that was very much on my mind. I have grown to absolutely adore Stephen,

and I can't imagine the season without him. But my preseason prediction is still dripped in boo heritage. You suck. So then is he changing your mind a bit as to the people that can come out of heritage, or is he more so the exception to the rule for you? Yeah, he's the exception to the rule. All right. He can come to the work.

I was pretty hot on. Yeah, I was going to say. I know. It's a tough act to follow. Well, I had pretty high chances for Stephen. In fact, you could say they were astronomical because I had Stephen not winning, but making the final three. So here's what I had to say about Stephen. Stephen's golden retriever attitude makes him tribe's best friend in the early days of Pina,

but he faces his own old yellow situation, but he's forced to take out his closest ally, Matt, behind the proverbial survivor shed. Lord, holy crap past Mike. Stephen hooks us right from the opening by opening up to both his tribe and the audience about his hearing loss. The heartwarming segment will probably be closed out by some silly joke like, with what I've got prepared, they won't hear me coming, and neither will I. Stephen's day-to-day as a chronic overthinker will get him completely in his head, we'll get some sort of hashtag survivor breakdown scene in the premurge where he fears,

despite being like Don Hina, he's in the outer orbit. When the game turns individual, Stephen looks to finally build his survivor solar system. Initially, he's seen as just a moon to the greater action, simply hanging on with the Hinas, but eventually Stephen decides it's finally time to be a star. He approaches Rizzo, Savannah, and Sophie B to propose the Space Force Alliance. It turns out their fate is much better than the real McCoy as they make up the entirety of the final four. Stephen also proves himself a gas giant in the challenges. This becomes a particular prominence when he takes home the last two necklaces,

guaranteeing himself a spot in the final three. On day 26, Stephen talks up his well-rounded game and his supermassive black hole strategy that he played out to perfection. But his biggest enemy ultimately is himself. Steven's overthinking creeps in at the worst time as he fears he's gloating and taking too much credit. And just when he eases up on the gas, Savannah kicks things into warp speed,

more than happy to talk up her own game in his place. And so Stephen's chances of winning collapsed in on themselves with the gravity of a neutron star. While Stephen ends up knitting a respectable couple of jury votes in a second place finish, he winds up the ultimate winner in a very different way. Seeing the positive reception on and off

the island to his perky persona, an approachable way of describing the universe, Stephen will start a successful YouTube channel following the show called Let's Talk About Space, aiming to teach children about some of the coolest oddities that exist above and around us. His closest ally was Matt, then Heena, then Space Force, then the subscribers. And his enemy was the jury.

And you know what? In another universe, that could have happened. See, I'm just continuing to write all the best fan fiction you possibly could in this podcast. I am obsessed with all of your space puns. That was beautiful. Thank you. I think Stephen would hopefully appreciate it as well, posthumously. I think so.

Well, listen, technically speaking, our guest. gets to determine who had the better prediction. I think this is a pretty easy consensus. Unfortunately, Mike, it was beautifully written. Thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah, that's interesting, though. We got a little sneak peek into potentially your winner pick.

So, oh. You guys not know each other's winner pick? I mean, at this point, well, we do. Leanna did the same thing last week that I did this week. So like, if people had been paying attention, the clues were there all along, Mr. Policeman. See, if you can figure out who we picked as the winner.

That's right. Go full knives out. This is the game within a game of the B&B. Yeah, right. We left clues all along. Okay, fabulous. Well, so that concludes the predictions. Now we're going to get into our game for this week.

This was sent in by a listener of the B&B shout out. Derek, you're a real one. Thank you for sending this in. This was inspired. Yeah, hearts, It's hard, it's Gigi. Gigi is Derek. We love you. This is the Gen Z heart, right? Oh, wait. Yeah, no. It's like, yeah.

Yeah, Monica's got it. I think that's what you're doing. Yeah. I'm like weird gnarled fingers. So like it makes, I have like witch hands. So it looks weird. There's also like this one that people do. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This one I. Yeah, like a little baby. Yeah, a little baby heart. Oh, it's a heart. Okay. I guess I can say that. You see people going like this in photos. Like it's their little buddy.

Okay. No, it looks more like a cancer ribbon. I miss this. This is this, and it does look. You just look from here up, not down here. I guess. The loop part. It's also, yeah, the Susan G. Coleman Foundation, mics out there like this.

Hey, I see you. I see you. This is what I'm running for. Anyway, Dan Genocide. So Derek was inspired by his favorite game show or one of his favorite game shows, Only Connect. So the way that this works is you guys will be presented with clues. and you have to guess which category the clues fall under.

So we'll do a practice run so you can see how the game works. But basically the fewer clues you have, the more points you earn. And I think this would be fun to do collaboratively. So you guys will talk together to try to figure out and try to get as many points as you can. So again, you'll get more and more evidence basically as it goes along.

So let me go ahead and set up to present our game here. Yeah, so this is, I believe, Only Connect is a hit British game show. It is. So I know that Jeff has watched it in his preparation for voice acting. Of course. When he was the alien learning, he learned from Victoria Cohen Mitchell. So, all right. So this is the survivor version of Only Connect.

So the first one is going to be an example. So there's no points for this. But this is basically the structure of how the game works. So you can take a guess at the five point mark. Okay, so first boot. Okay, perfect. Yeah, that's a perfect. guess. So, uh, it's a perfect guess, but it would be incorrect. So then we would reveal the next

clue. Uh, members of Kella, Alex and Nicole. Okay. So, uh, I could accept that as an answer. Um, I'm just going to go through the rest of it. So basically, yes, they are all members, but they're tribe members who've been eliminated as of the final six. Now that's a little tiki-tacky. I probably would have accepted that. And the other ones are not as complicated as that. But this is the basic gist of the game. Okay.

So let's go ahead and start with your first official category. Your clue is Nate Moore. Oh, okay. So we could take a literal shot in the dark here, Anika. Any category that we feel Nate belongs to. Well, I think it's the obvious

we could say his tribe, right? Yeah, we could say it's tribe. We could say... What's his profession? Is this only 49 players or is this extended across all C? I guess we'll see. This is, yeah, it's extended across all seasons.

So we could say merge boots. Merge boots is a good one. We could do older players, players that are at least a certain age. I don't remember anything Nate's over 45, maybe. But he is a Marvel producer. We could do people who work in the entertainment industry. So the sky's the limit here.

The sky's the limit. Mike, I'm going to have you choose the first one. All right, I will go with merge boots. Okay. That is incorrect. Here is your next clue. MC. MC.

I mean, is it as simple as like people who are on the jury? No, I know. That's what I'm thinking. I can't be that simple. It can't be that simple. There's no way it's that simple, Mike. Could it be something like anyone who's ever been on Kina? But even that sounds like that's too wide of a net to cast.

Is there a certain beach that they were both on? Is there a certain challenge they? Oh, well, they did do the journey. They did go on a journey. Oh. Okay, maybe we guess that. Like, people who went on a journey. That is incorrect.

Oh, okay. Here is your next clue. Alex did go on a journey, though. He did go on a journey. That is technically correct, yes. This is the order that the jury has been eliminated in. Yeah. I think we lock in that.

I think we overthought this. I think it's the journey. We only thought it. That is correct. Yes. Oh, we overthought it. Hey, 49 jurors. Okay, but not too bad.

That gives you three points. And I basically set par at three. So you're right on par. Okay. Let's see if you can get some points here. So your first clue of your next category is Fully. I have an idea, but I want to hear if you have any suggestions. No, nothing is coming to the brain, Mike.

I need you Okay Tribes that are red Oh Yep Yeah baby Yes that is correct Genius man

Five points What a shout out Naga Rote The No Color Tribe from Survivor Worlds Apart I know right And All right

All right All right here is your next category first clue stephen ram our boy Stephen ram okay there could be again so many it could be six placers could be what else could it be honestly could it be a descriptor something about like he wears glasses players with glasses or I'm getting too creative I'm getting too creative I think I like no I like this think outside the box like you said there's no There's no rule against us, not possessing people with glasses.

Or... Okay, so is that, are you locking in people with glass? No, no, no, no. I think you should go with a simpler answer. I think I would overcomplicate it. All right, six, six placers. Six places. Okay.

That is incorrect. Oh, Jessica Johnston. Okay. Jessica Johnston was on a yellow tribe. She was on the healers. I mean, is it as simple as like someone who... Yeah, people who were on Yellow Tribe. People who started on a Yellow Tribe.

That is incorrect. Okay. Your next clue is Mitch waiting to make his move. Okay, Mitch, Jessica Johnston, and Stephen Ram. What exists between? What's the commonality? Oh, now this is getting fun. Hmm.

So I'm thinking, okay, because Jessica, was like she was a trying to think I hate to say like Stephen has a hearing aid Stephen has a hearing aid Jessica Johnston

was just a nurse practitioner lovely woman lovely one's Stephen Astro Mitch is not the same career Nope gym teacher yeah

could it be that he, because I'm trying to think, like... Did they do something similar in the game? It's a good question. I guess... No, because, like, Mitch was voted out unanimously. Stephen was voted out unanimously.

Jessica had the whole thing to split between the healers and the rest of the group. I mean, the thing was, Jessica didn't go to tribal council and the premurge. These guys did. Oh, man. Do we have to go down to two points? I didn't have to go down to two points. We got we got good with that five. So we bought ourselves some time here. Would you like to make a guess? Uh, okay,

uh, people who have two of the same letter in their name. Okay. That is incorrect. You, your next clue, Rachel LeMont. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay. Stephen played something on somebody or he played something before tribal council. Jessica played something before tribal council, right? She had the advantage she found in the potato chip bag that blocked Devin's vote, I believe.

I think Mitch may have played like a vote block on say, I want to say before the vote and we just talked about it with Rachel. So maybe it's that. Okay. I think that's my best guess.

Someone who, they played something before tribal counsel. I trust you, Mike, and your survivor knowledge. I don't remember that Jessica doing that. But yeah, okay. Or really Mitch, but okay. Okay. So what is your final

guess? A block of vote? Oh, yeah. Like, or, yeah, it's a block about, yeah. That is correct. Players who had a block of votes. Like, I totally forgot the Jessica Johnson one. Two points technically still above par. So let's keep

going. All right, your next category. Your first clue is Shannon Fairweather. People who didn't get a hug. I think we're going to need more data. So I think maybe like people, I would say people from, okay, there we go, Sage. Okay, see, my guess was going to be people from Boston. And so like that.

Okay, that is incorrect. And I got click happy. So no, all right, your next category. Your next clue is Sage, again, from 49. What was their starting tribe name? So they were on Ouli to start. Okay. Started on bread.

Yeah, maybe it's like, I mean, I guess it's as simple as like, at this point, we have nothing go off except for Ouli tribe members. Yes. Let's lock in Oli tribe members. Oonie tribe members. That is incorrect. your next clue is Savannah Louis and that doesn't help

okay no there might be something here I think there's something deceptively simple maybe I mean we just got off of a really complicated one so like there's a is it as simple as like women with S names on season 49

honestly I think that might be it or just people with S names and we have Sophie and Sophie as the next two I think there's a very good chance that's the case you read me like a book or Derek I guess I should say yes that is correct Survivor 49

women with an S name given the fact that there were so freaking many on this season okay so many of them made it to the end Shannon was the only one that went before like the final seven yeah I know which is absolutely wild to me did you guys notice that in Sophie's letter home it said sof

wait Really? Oh, what? You know what? I am so confused. I am so confused about this whole name situation. Can I draw another cockamamie theory here? Please.

I think Jeff Probst had a bottle of white out and saw that letter and said, I'm making a point here. This Sophie claims that she's the one true Sophie, but she will always be sof to me and you are sof in this letter. Or he angrily wrote back to the family and was like, we refuse to accept her letter until you. Her name is Sof now. Your name is Sof now. I've told her personally. I think it's so cute. How did she feel about that?

How did she respond to that? She was like, honestly, yeah. Like, she, I think she agreed a little bit. Okay. We're becoming fond of it, maybe. Okay, that's good. She had a little of like Stockholm syndrome, soap home syndrome. Soap home syndrome.

Oh, no. Okay. Let's move on to our next category. episode titles will be drawn Mm-hmm Blood will be drawn Oh things you say at the phlebotomist

The most annoying patient ever So this is a title Number this was Mike So this I I'm trying to remember if this is the title of an episode from this season or not I think we'll have to see in the future ones If it's pulling episodes from other seasons

I feel this sounds familiar So maybe this was from this season We could be like episodes titled said by a certain person Or from a certain episode of different seasons Yeah, that's true Okay, let's start with Occam's Razor Survivor 49 episode titles That is incorrect

True Lies True Lies Okay so true lies I feel like is It's the name of like an early episode This is pre-season 13 when they didn't use contestant quotes. And so it's true lies. True lies actually might be like a name of an episode from the Amazon.

That's really impressive if you're right. I'm most likely not, right? Blood will be drawn true lies. True lies. Is it like the name of the merge episode? Would you like to lock that in is your final answer? Let's lock that in. No, let's lock that in.

That is correct. Are you kidding me? It's Marquesis. True Lies was the Marquesis merge episode. Yeah. Wait, what? I can see these ones for a second. Girls gone wilder.

So that's the Amazon one. That's the Amazon one. Hot pickle is Micronesia. I remember that. Head of the snake is Cagia on. Okay. And then was blood will be drawn this season? That's a good question.

Uh, yes. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah. Okay, great. As we all know, yes, the very memorable title, Blood Will Be Drawn. I was worried about this one, Mike. I was worried for us on this one. Really?

You really came through. No, Leonner knows how much of a freak I am about Survivor title. But, Anika, you said it too, though. You said, is it the same episode, like the same slot in multiple seasons? Yeah, I wouldn't have gotten it if it weren't for you. So, yeah, yeah. Responsible was there.

Okay, next clue, or, next your next category first clue Rizzo the man the myth of the legend himself okay I really hope he reveals that persona in the final travel council same I do too uh Rizzo players with nicknames oh actually that's a great

yeah players with nicknames okay players with nicknames that is incorrect your next clue is Jay J start so Jay does have an idol memorable it could be simple

as like players who have who had an immunity who have held on who have held on to idols yeah that feels like such a deep category though hmm

I say let's guess that okay players who had idols that is incorrect your next player is oh I know this one it's people

who played fake idols Oh Well You're next to Eliza and Randy would agree Because yes They all played fake idols I guess we just forget about Rizzo

That is a It was a self-appointed fake idol That it was his own fake idol That he played the other four The other four were duped Well I Eliza wasn't really duped It was more so You know, shot in the dark Hail Mary

Right Mm-hmm Then effing stick All right Your first clue of your next category, we have Sophie, Sof, Sophie B, Blue Sophie,

whatever her myriad of nicknames are, Sophie Bellardi. Hmm. What do you think, Anika? Players from Miami. No, they're like players who are on a season with someone with the same name. Oh.

Are there enough? I mean, you could have like, there's been seasons that have had two Kims on it, two Kelly's on it, two Robbs on it. True. Okay. I like that one. Let's do that. Person who was played on the same season with someone with the same name. I'm going to give it to you. I'm going to give it to you. So yes, technically, your next clue would have been Stephanie Johnson, Rob Mariano,

Kim Johnson, and Kelly. It technically the category was a higher placing duo who shared the same name on the same season. I felt like if I said no, you never would have gotten here. I never would have got here. We never would be like, oh, but it's not specific enough. Exactly. Um, not quite. No, that was. Poitre, guys.

That was out of thin air. That's incredible. You are technically, you have won the game in that 24 points would have been the average if you had gotten three points on all of the questions. You are crushing it with 25. Let's see how many points you can get on our last question here. So moving into the final category. Your clue is 49.

Seasons in the new era. That's a good one. It's going to be something weird where it's like, I don't know, seasons that are square numbers that have the final five being comprised of people from all three tribes on a Tuesday. Wait, the square number is a good one, though. Honestly, should we try to see the center square numbers? Season better square numbers.

I would love to see someone take. the square of your next clue ghost island that's a square number that's 36 no that is incorrect oh what do those have in common what do those have in 49

ghost island and 49 uh huh both no I was going to say they had a double tribal council but 49 actually didn't have a double tribal council because someone had to get bitten by a snake

make yeah or there are certain tribe swaps on ghost island so ghost oh onica that's it seasons that had two tribe swaps you're bringing it home strong with four points baby that's right seasons with two tribe swaps and with 29 points you've absolutely crushed the game congratulations to both of you this was a good game that's great i really like this game Derek, thank you. Shout out Derek. Shout out Derek. Yeah, that was

very fun. You guys did really well. I was reading through some of these. I was like, I would never have gotten me. So well done. This was very fun. And again,

shout out Derek. Thank you so much for sending in the game and for putting it together for us. And of course, Leanna, thank you for being the hostess with the mostest and guiding us through that wonderful presentation.

Thank you. And I saved everyone from me doing my best British accent. can you give us like a little taste oh hello governor um spot on thank you want a biscuit right now

well let's please sir I'd love some more If you try to do a British accent mine's going to like bloody hell Are you waving a flag Like a wand

Just like a wand Juan and Caslumos on our next segment here, which is the way we close out every episode of the B&B, where we give the chance to our guests to highlight a charity or cause that is important to them. So, Anika, the ball is in your core. What do you want the listeners to know about? I would love to tell you about the one

nonprofit that I actually do give money to every single month. It is called The Nature Conservancy. I am a big tree hugger. I care about the environment a lot. The Nature Conservancy is, does really fight against climate change and also saving the ocean and saving the trees. And I think as someone who grew up around nature and us valuing the beauty of islands like Fiji and all around the world where we get to play, I personally want to feature the Nature Conservancy

who's putting money and helping in saving our beautiful planet. Yeah, it's a great call. I mean, I think, you know, Survivor is a show that an entire onus is removing us from our creature comforts from civilization. And we've seen over 25 years the ability to glimpse upon how beautiful untouched nature can be. And stuff like this helps make sure that remains untouched from the greedy, gritty hands of capitalists everywhere. The way you just said everything I wanted to so much better than what I just said. NES plus one to that. Oh my God. Well, Anika, you were a great plus one on this podcast. So much fun. Welcome to the B&B making your official debut. So great to hear from you.

of your perspectives on what was going on in the episode, allowing yourself to engage in all the malarkey that we bring on a weekly basis. This was so much fun. Anything you want to plug to listeners out there? Any final thoughts you have about this episode or season 49 in general? I'm so excited for also 50 promo next week. Guys, it's hard not to think about it. So obviously, you know, I'm rooting for my girl Genevieve and I can't wait to see what's going to be seen next week. I know. It's so exciting. It is wild to think that's right around the corner. I mean, obviously, I'm excited to see how 49 ends, but, uh, but the, the reminder of the promo for 50. Let's go. Yeah, it's the thing that I think kind of some of us at least put them back

of our heads for a few months, being like, well, we have another season to focus on and like, yeah, it's on its way. It's coming. And there'll be plenty for you to engage in on the road to it. But in the meantime, Leona, on the road to next episode of Survivor 49, what have you got going on that people should check out? Yeah. So in the meantime, Pui and I are holding a down on the Puy and Leona Lounge. We did a 2024 sort of wrapped episode. We talked about our favorite moments, our favorite places we went, those kinds of things. We're going to do our Christmas holiday episode next week. Then we're going to take a week off before we ring in the new year, 2026, which is absolutely wild to think that that is right around the corner.

Of course, you can check out everything I've got going on as well. Amazing Race finished up this past week. Anika, are you an amazing race person? I'm a huge amazing race person. and I would also love and would die to be on the show. And I'm so happy for Jack and Jazz. I love them as people. I think they did a great job this season. Jag, a two-time winner. Come on, incredible.

Will he be on Survivor? Can he get the third win of the CBS trio? How do you think he would be on Survivor? I talked to him and he said that he would be open to doing it. He's such a charismatic person if you meet him in person. And I do think that bodes pretty well, depending on who he gets cast with. I would, I'm going to be a jog fan on Survivor.

Which would you rather not here after you got voted out? Gigi or let's go! I'm going to vote Gigi. I'm literally like, no. No, no, no. Yeah, so you can check out my interviews with the final four as well as Robin. Jess's interviews with the final four, of course, our recap we had going on of a finale that had some very deserving winners to Onica's point.

not the, you know, strongest episode, but still a very fun season to talk about overall. And we'll be doing some postseason interviews as well sooner rather than later with some of the people that made it to the end game. I'm also going to be popping on with Rob Cisternino tomorrow to do something special about Survivor 49. We'll talk about it just yet, a little bit of a miscellaneous podcast before the finale in which I'll be providing you five interviews with everyone left in the cast. I'm sure there's going to be a lot to talk about in terms of what we experienced in the finale.

their games up to that point, et cetera, and then the road to season 50 officially begins. And we've got some end of the year wrap up stuff as well. There's plenty going on both in my own personal feed at a Mike Bloom type as well as here over on RHAP as we are, as Leanna points out, wrapping up the year that was 2025. And got a lot to look forward to in 2026,

starting with, I don't know, January 8th, something might be coming around, but of course plenty of other stuff. happening. We've got one episode left, but that still means if Survivor's still on the air, if there's an episode to come, you can send us stuff to talk about. Derek

is a great example. Someone who made this game, who sent this game to us and it went over flawlessly. So please, if you have any and all ideas, RHAP, B&B at gmail.com, if the cockamamie things I've thrown out over this podcast, is any indication, I am game for any ideas that you

might throw out there. So let your voice be heard. You can use the hashtag R-HP, BNB, of social media as well. So yeah, if you have any like especially big season wrap up games or segments that you want us to use, please let us know. We'll get into them with our season finale podcast next week.

Special thanks to everyone behind the scenes at RHAP for packaging this podcast for your eyes and your ears and Wolfram America for his fantastic theme song. Leon and I will be back next week covering the finale of Survivor 49. Until next time, everybody, we'll check you out at your next stage.

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