RHAP: We Know Survivor - Austin Li Coon Recaps Survivor 47 Ep 2

Episode Date: September 26, 2024

Today we welcome Survivor 45’s Austin Li Coon to join Rob for the post-game show for episode 2 of Survivor 47! Rob and Austin discuss everything that happened in this week’s episode, react to the eliminated player, and take questions from RHAP listeners LIVE!

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Big tribal council to talk about here tonight with a great guest. Very excited to have back with us from Survivor 45. Austin Lee Kuhn. Austin, how are you? I'm doing great. Thanks so much. Yeah, great blindside, but also a lot of other great things to talk about. I have my notes ready.

Beware advantages, rice, everything. Yes. I'm stoked for this. Austin, as hungry as you got on Survivor, would you ever have stuffed your pockets full of rice? Yes. Easily. Yes. 100% I would have. I mean, there's been multiple times at rewards, I'm like, I should just put this extra cookie in my pocket. And I never did that because at that moment, I'm so stuffed and I'm like, okay, I don't want to get in trouble now. But in her shoes, what is it now? Like day six, five or so you're really hungry. Days five and six, at least for me, were two of the harder days out there. Cause it's like when your body's first getting hit with no

food, I would have for sure grabbed the rice. I totally applaud her for doing it. If only she could do it a little more sneakily. Yeah. I think that does that she got busted. I think somebody passed the word on to Jeff, but a fun moment for sure in the episode. A lot to talk about here tonight. I want to ask our live audience, send in your questions here for Austin and me about tonight's episode. We'll get to them later on in the show. It'll be a big Thursday on Rob as a podcast. I'll talk to TK in the morning. See what he has to say about all this. So we'll see what he has to say after a TKO. All right.

I didn't even think about that. I don't know how. Yeah. Then no Stephen Fishback tomorrow, but we will be blessed. And Marianne Oketch will join me for survivor know-it-alls coming up at 4 p.m tomorrow so uh be on the lookout for that to join us live for uh survivor know-it-alls actually it was it is it 4 p 4 30 actually is that what it is okay sorry 4 30 p.m eastern with

marianne for survivor no dolls and a big brother double eviction are you a big brother guy i i've watched a few seasons i'm watching this season for that no i'm watching this season i mean i'm living at home for this summer i'm with my mom my mom watches it all so i'm sitting next to her tonight watching this new episode of big brother for sure okay all right well that make sure you're locked in for everything when you subscribe to RHAP. All right. Austin, what's new with you? How are you doing? I'm doing great. I mean, so I graduated like early June. Congratulations.

Thank you. Thank you. From business school. So it's my final summer break, you know, and I was just trying to do as much as I can visiting friends. I went to a few weddings, summer break, you know, and I was just trying to do as much as I can visiting friends. I went to a few weddings, traveling around and starting a new job in like a week and a half now. So the fun is coming to an end. I'm glad we could sneak in this podcast now and got some good survivor content before then. But yeah, a lot of change happening now. Moving down to L.A. soon. Okay. All right. Well, great to hear. Let's talk about what went wrong here for TK. And ultimately, I thought this was a pretty bold move here by the Tuku tribe to take out TK at this particular point. I guess for Gabe and Tiana, they're the ones who really had the decision to make.

Obviously, you know, the votes are coming for Sue. She's sort of painted into a corner. TK is going to do what he has to do. But it's really the two people that are sort of in the middle here in Gabe and Tiana who both decide to that they want to get rid of TK and not Sue. Let's start with from Tiana's perspective.

Okay. Was this the right move for Tiana to go along with Sue and Caroline and ultimately Gabe? Yeah. I mean, that's hard to say. From my initial gut reaction was this doesn't seem to be the right move. I mean, it seemed like TK approached her, really wanted to work with her. And if you're burning that, that is someone approached her, really wanted to work with her. And if you're burning that, that is someone that you know is going to vote with you. And sacrificing that, it could be worth it, given that he did already burn her. Who knows what,

it seems maybe like an unreliable kind of alliance member. But I think off the get-go, unless something changes, I don't know if that's the right move that that's my gut feeling yeah i thought that tk got a little bit of a raw deal in the mat uh nothing like last week uh but where jeff said to the tuku tribe after like wow there's a lot of like a lot of smiling going on over here and you know uh it's like no no it's not it's a fake And TK, I think who was in the back, I don't think he could see Tiana smiling, was like, oh, you know, hey, we better not be smiling. I hate losing. And I think Tiana seemed to take that a little bit personally. They did seem to come back together. I'm just worried about Tiana's position moving forward because we, I think, know a lot more information about what went on.

because we, I think, know a lot more information about what went on. She kind of got sold a bill of goods where she's really the fourth person in that alliance with Sue and Caroline. And then Sue comes and tells her, like, hey, we're doing the all women thing. And then we'll get Gabe. He'll be the fourth. But I don't think Kyle's going to get voted out next if they go to another tribal council. They just voted out their strongest guy. I think Tiana was going to be in a tough spot regardless,

because it seemed like from her point of view, I think it seemed like with the guys, she was a fourth to that. And then now with this other line, she might be the fourth to that one, but she's promised third over Gabe, you know, with the women. So I guess in her mind, that was probably slightly better than joining the bromance alliance as the fourth person. Because I don't think, you know, if I were her, I wouldn't be sold like, OK, they're really just going to drop out, Gabe, and add me on. So I could see that from her perspective.

But it seemed like that from TK and Kyle's perspective, like that really is what was going on. That they sort of like said okay gabe is too flaky let's go ahead let's bring in tiana now ultimately we know gabe is willing to go to rocks uh with with sue and with caroline so it really was kind of a bad spot for her either way yeah yeah i i think for sure bad spot either way and i think with tk in general like i feel like his vote out it's kind of like kind of the common strong male early boot kind of vote out where it's like someone who's very opinionated very passionate maybe overbearing as a leader um and i think a lot of those people kind of rub others the wrong way and when you're this early in the game it's hard to be like okay

they're rubbing me the wrong way and you hear Tiana talk about this a little like I can work with you as a player, even if I don't like you as a person. But I think earlier in the game, it's harder to kind of make that decision. Like, oh, no, I want to play with people I like with later in the game. It's a lot easier to be like, OK, I hate you, but there's only five more days left. So maybe Tiana was kind of like doing that math in her head and was like, I'd rather just roll with people, even though I might not trust them as much as numbers, like them better as people, and I can maybe convince them to be more on my side. Austin, I thought this was a very bold decision. I'm just trying to rack my brain

through the new era, and I'm trying to think, I don't believe that any of the tribes have ever voted out somebody who is as much of a physical presence this early on in the game. With all due respect to Jelinski and David Boche. I'm just trying to think.

I don't know. Jelinski, I think he was going to be a multi-immunity challenge winner once he got to the merge. One day, for sure. But Asia last week said, TK, he looks like he could be in the NFL right now. It's only a six-person tribe. I mean, it's tough, too too because tuku is a strong tribe i think even without tk i they they look really stacked on me at pre pre-game i was like this is

the tribe that's going to win out if any um so i think they're still looking pretty strong but yeah that is surprising um at reba beach you know in 45 we were also really strong tribes so we were kind of floating the ideas as you saw like oh maybe Sifu can go a little bit earlier, for example, even though he's very strong. And I'm wondering that's kind of a similar mindset. Yeah. Okay. So we'll see if, you know, they could end up being now the, you know, hot mess tribe. We thought that maybe it might have been Gata after the first episode, but I don't know, maybe without TK, we'll see if they end up going into a spiral, but let's talk about it from Gabe's perspective. And so Gabe had made two interesting decisions tonight. Of course, the first was the putting this alliance. Actually,

he made a lot of interesting decisions tonight. He made this alliance with Sue and Kara. He loved Sue. He talked about in the preseason, Austin, he wanted to play like Russell Hance. He said he wanted to bring back the survivor game that he fell in love with watching Russell Hance. And so far, he has kind of done a lot of like Russell-esque things. Yeah. He's found his people. He's found advantages.

He's showing them the advantages of like, hey, it's us. That's true. Let's showing them the advantages of like, hey, it's us. That's true. Let's go to rocks. He ends up pulling Caroline to sides and, hey, I want to work with you. He shows her the idol. She's like, why is this guy showing me the idol? It doesn't even make sense. Yeah.

Now you say it's sort of like the new era spin on it. Like you can't just be going in burning socks, yelling at people and expect to make it far nowadays. So I think he is playing a much smarter version like you can't take charge of everything he's playing more of the background playing in the middle but at the same time doing these russell type moves and also what he said about russell was that russell was loyal to his people like uh that russell said to the like the the the the foe of foe for like we're gonna we're gonna do this loyalty i forget exactly what he said but stuff like that yeah yeah he basically he kept his word to them until the end

uh that it was it was them against the world and he's gabe is starting to set that up and he ends up setting his sights on tk and then they end up they're willing to go to rocks three three but they also feel like okay we could i don't want to have to play my idol on sue we could bring in tiana but at tribal council he gets up and he plays his idol yeah that i was so confused about it's like this was almost perfect. And not on Sue. I was like, okay, all right. I guess he felt like he had to play his idol on Sue. And then Jeff said, who are you going to play it for?

He said, I'll play it for me. I can't give him too much crap because I did the same thing, playing an idol for myself, and I got zero votes. Okay, but that was later on in the game. That was later in the game. But Austin, let me just say that I know what your mom feels like because i was such a proud parent because my my nine-year-old son anthony when gabe stood up to play the idol he said no he wasted it he didn't need to do that it's like a future survivor winner right there i was like my son i hugged him i was so proud of him. But for Gabe, what gives?

That was weird. I mean, like no one. I mean, there had to have been something to make him feel a little bit weird. All these players right now are very are playing very safe with their idols, you know, picking the one use idol instead of trying to push it further, playing the idol on yourself on the first tribal, even though you have an upgraded one. So it's it is confusing how idols are being played this season. Okay, so in the chat, a few folks are saying that it was to protect himself in the rock draw. But if that's the case, Austin, why not just play the idol on Sue? That's a good question.

Yeah, that's weird. Maybe by playing it on himself, he doesn't show where the lines are. He's not like turning the bridges. I guess they lied to Tiana and said that, okay, that Gabe doesn't know. We're trying to bring him in at the last second or it's a three. He thought it was going to be three, three. He doesn't know you're with us or that he thinks it's going to be like a guy's thing. But then when they count the votes, right?

That wasn't even needed. Yeah, that was weird. That was weird. Yeah, 4-2. So like Tiana must have known then probably that Gabe was voting with her, right? Like there must have been a conversation before tribal council.

Yeah. And Austin, let's not forget, because I know it's confusing with all these idols out there that I believe Gabe had the, you can use at three tribal council idol. He did not have the just one tribal council idol that we end up seeing both Sam and Rome end up taking. Yeah. And I have a lot to say about that. I don't know if we want to deep dive into. Well, let's let's get to we'll get to that in a minute.

Let's let's stay with Tuku and then we'll get to those other tribes. But so this was so interesting. I thought all around for Gabe. Yeah. Yeah, it was. I'm curious now, like, is he going to go super hardcore looking for the next one when it gets replaced at the beach? He already was caught with one.

I'm getting a premonition. I think so. I think he will. I think definitely he will. but at this point what's stopping everyone else they all know gabe is gonna look for the idol so i could see next episode everyone just having a mad dash trying to find it yeah could you talk about that as far as like there being like a new error thing it seems like that there's a stigma about okay going off and looking for the idol we saw everybody everybody watching Andy in this episode.

OK, make sure he doesn't go look for the idol. But after the idol gets played, is that just basically, you know, a free for all? Like it seems like that once the idol is re-hidden, it seems like that there's not as much of a stigma on looking for the idol. Yeah, I think definitely. I think once an idol is played, it open yeah exactly breaks the seal and everyone's just like okay well someone already found it somebody played it they're still here they don't have a target i might as well find it plus you know it's like okay one of the good things about it being played is it's probably not going to be a crazy beware advantage where you have to do all these different steps to get it it'll be stronger you'll go straight to the idol phase, most likely, which is much more encouraging, I think, as well.

And I think also once an idol is played, usually the alliances are more or less formed, at least initially. So it's like, okay, I can go with my allies to find this or it's less sketchy as before votes are read. No one knows where anyone is. You're looking for idols. You're getting sketched about all these different people.

Now, line's been drawn. Let's look as a squad. Let's look together. Whatever. I don't know. Master Sifu is in the chat. He says that we never looked for idols. Apparently, yeah.

Sifu was never looking for idols. Definitely, definitely was not days one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. And, you know, let's not even consider the all the fake idols he made like five in his bag gave me one gave julie one i mean yeah never looked for idols okay so let's go back to tk for a minute and you know tk got the edit here in this episode that he was talking too much uh that he was talking loudly uh there seemed to be an idea of like was he trying to get like a a bro's thing going at least from sue's perception he must have said bro about 85 times that was his catchphrase so aust, do you feel like did TK get unlucky or did TK not have the best run?

I think both. I think you do have to be a little unlucky to have his like sides build athleticism to God as early as you do. The team that you're with has to make the decision. I'm not playing for strength. I'm fine to go back to tribal council again, even if we lose them. So that's a little bit of luck given like who you're put with, are they okay with sort of going to tribal back to back to back if they lose you. But also I think the way he played wasn't, wasn't the best in certain situations. Of course we talk about like, you know, after the, the challenge when he's sort of roasting Tiana and she's upset, regardless of what his intentions were, he should be on his knees,

like tears in his eyes, apologizing to Tiana. And that's something that he wasn't able to really stomach and do. And I think that ultimately could have been the reason why Tiana was like, okay, maybe I don't really want to work with him. But if he was, you know, a little more suck up, it could have helped out. Yeah, because you don't even have to mean it.

You could just say sorry. In real life, you know, maybe say sorry when you mean it, but in Survivor, you say sorry for everything, you know? Kyle, we heard Sam talk about him. He was the glue guy last week. Kyle really feels like that he's the glue guy in this tribe. And even though he voted wrong at the last tribal council, I still, I don't feel like he's in any trouble moving forward he just seems like a super likable guy and he was the one that said to tk you know i think that you know tiana she kind of got rubbed the wrong way by what you said at the challenge i think it would really go a long way if you apologized to her and it's like no i don't think so see he's perfectly positioned i think i think there's almost no universe where he gets voted out in the next couple rounds. Like he seems to be liked by everyone.

He's not really targeted or perceived as a huge threat. He seems to be pretty fine in challenges, like very much in the middle of the tribe, which I think is a great place to be as long as he can then commit to one side or the other when the time comes. But is he too nice? Do you think that Kyle has like a chance to win? Like how does Kyle get to the end? You know what? Kyle is sort of like the new era Matthew from Survivor Amazon. Oh, what a throwback. Me and my mom were actually halfway through rewatching it. But yeah, it's,

you know, he needs kind of to learn more of the strategy side. He said in a confession, like my the worst, like the hardest part for me here is talking to people, lying to them, like scheming, that sort of thing. He's fine living out in the wild. He can do that. And I think that's the archetype that will always make it to, you know, the merge and a little bit deeper potentially. But I don't think he really has right now the tool set to win, but there's plenty of

days left. And if he works with a strategist i think he can learn the tools he can piggyback off of that and win it eventually in the end the thing about kyle though he does seem super social he seems like he really is like a very warm person i think that people like really gravitate towards him so i think that that's also going to help him i i just feel like that in the new era though though, I don't know if you can get to the unless you're like somebody who just gets dragged to the end. I don't know if you can necessarily get to the end without making, you know, one or two cutthroat moves. I agree. I mean,

I think his best bet, given the tool sets that we've seen him have, is to find someone like you or someone else who is able to make these big moves, work along with them. Yeah. Gain the knowledge, get the sort of moves under your belt and then maybe cut that person. If he's able to do that, I think he'll win. But I think on his own, it might be a little tougher. So it's a new year. You know what that means? Setting big goals. Maybe you promised yourself you're going to hit the gym every day. you know what that means, setting big goals. Maybe you promised yourself you're going to hit the gym every day, or maybe you said you're going to learn to make fire with a flint for once, or the classic save more money. But let's be honest, New Year's resolutions tend to fizzle

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because you're the alternate. And so they're like, I don't know. Are one of these guys going to work? I don't know. Maybe. Bring one of them as the extra guy. And then ultimately you get through in season 45. Andy

gets left behind. He has to sit with that for a year and then finally gets out and make his chance and people like okay here comes the new austin but you and andy have been very different yeah our game so far couldn't have been more different it is true i mean like when i see when i saw him when he saw me it was sort of just like oh my gosh like yeah like we are literally competing for the same spot on this show and i felt really bad when i got on he told me he was flying sort of like the you know uh the mustache

and the beard that you would be like the evil andy but you are much the not to say the andy the evil maybe chaotic you were not very chaotic hey put us on the same tribe and I'll shave and we can do some madness. You were the staple, Andy. Okay. Well, you know. Steady. Steady, Andy. Fair enough.

I was able to play from the top. He was playing from the bottom. So maybe I would have been in a similar position as him. I think I resonated with him because we both came in. We had our own insecurities. We had our own everything blow up. Right. In another universe. You know, I could have been exactly like andy he could have

been me like if we swap seasons who knows maybe it's the same storyline maybe maybe okay so um what was your reaction to andy's week one uh andy's week one I think Andy, he has this powerful sixth sense that really great players have of understanding. I think where you are amongst your tribe. I mean, like as funny as it is him chopping the Coke and no one cheering, like it is true. He was on the bottom. And I think if you look at my season, D was the best at this on our entire, entire cast. Like she knew when something was wrong, she knew when someone was lying to her. Um, and I think Andy kind of has that ability, but where he lacks is is figuring out what to do with that knowledge. He has the knowledge. He should take a step back, make a relaxed, calculated decision.

But it seems like he kind of panics and just emotionally acts upon these discoveries that he had. But Austin, was that sixth sense correct last week when he felt like that he was at the bottom or was like a self-fulfilling prophecy? Was he at the bottom when he said he was first at the bottom? I feel like he was either the bottom or the next to go. It's unclear, but he was definitely outside of that for, for sure.

So, all right, this week though, we see everybody is cheering him on opening the coconuts, trying to make him at least like feel good enough to not play his shot in the dark when he goes to tribal council, at least. But then we see Andy goes out and he finds the beware advantage and does something that nobody else has done. I guess the genie and Brad, was there something with this where that, did Genie Genie found the thing

and then Shannon Ricard took it? Is that what is, maybe from I have to go back to Survivor 41. You might need the chat to explain that. On 45, Brandon didn't pick it and kind of gave it to Sabaya. That's my knowledge of people

who didn't grab it right away. But Andy says, I'm going to come back for this later. Put a bookmark in this. I was screaming. Like before whatever happened happened, I was like, no, it took you five minutes to find this and you're going to just leave it there? Like you went during someone's bathroom break, found it, and you're going to leave it where it is expecting no one to find it.

Well, yeah, that Sam was supposed to be babysitting baby Andy. And then he ends up walking away and he's gone. That's the babysitter's worst nightmare. Drew would have thrown the cover to the rice. Oh, my God. Like Captain America's shield. Babysitting's harder than it than it seems because you have to convince whoever's being babysat that they're not being babysat. So you have to like, you know, walk around a little bit.

You can't eyes on them the whole time. It's a delicate balance. But Austin, that for Andy, this kind of goes as amazing as there was any right to ever expect it could. Everything was coming upy by the end of this episode yeah and i mean we'll i'm sure we'll talk about later but the next time on survivor it seems like he might be on in a pretty good position potentially like somehow him stumbling upon the beware advantage deciding not to take it and then deciding three hours later that actually no i want it going there it's not like it somehow all worked in his favor when i think it was a series of kind of mistakes well i guess was it because you know

that these starting with season 45 really um these idol hunts in the 90 minute episodes are rather complicated and for andy who's at the bottom of the tribe, is there any chance that he would have been able to go out and pull off this? Like we saw when you found your idol in season 45, how complicated it was. And you needed Drew and Dee and Julie to all go around to help like do the different parts of finding just this one idol.

I don't think that Andy would would have been able to especially with everybody watching him like they were that that if it was like a regular immunity idol like sure but to go on this wild goose chase that we saw rome end up having problems we saw gabe end up uh getting detected in last week's episode like i think yeah you've been dead to rights it's it's true i think it's like usually when you're on the bottom and up until these crazy new era beware advantage it's like of course you look for the idol it's fine if you get caught it doesn't matter because you're on the bottom anyways you just need this power but it's true the last full season that these players watched i think was 45 and you know it took me

eight days to even get the idol it lasted only one tribal i had to sacrifice my boats for another week before i finally had an idol it's a lot of work and it required me to have people who i trusted to feed me the information and the pieces that i need to complete this whereas he doesn't seem to have that so yeah i guess what you're saying totally makes sense and what kind of yeah i don't know i i don't want to necessarily say that like a sign agency that andy did this all on purpose or this was a move yeah it was obviously he then thought better of it i need to go get it and and that's what frustrated me it's sort of like you need to have an idea like if i were to find this this is what i'm gonna do you can't be like oh shoot i actually found this i ran into this what do i do i'm gonna leave it and then like you think and

three i was like actually no i want it and then like that's what should have not happened he should have had the decision should i leave it or should i keep it and stuck to it i think yeah but ultimately no matter how he got there uh it ends up uh working out in his favor because i do think that uh you know the target on him would have been like, uh, 10 X, uh, had he been led now on an idle hunt.

Instead, Sam finds the, uh, beware advantage. And I, Sam ends up with a, he's, he's got,

he first, he finds it with Anika and then he goes and finds the key. And then he goes back and tell Sierra, Hey, guess what? I found the, I found the beware advantage. I found it with Anika. Anika is going to tell Rachel. Then he goes and finds the key. And then he goes back and tells Sierra, hey, guess what? I found the beware advantage. I found it with Annika.

Annika's going to tell Rachel. Then he tells Rachel. And he keeps tag-teaming different people in to help him on the island. That's how I should have done it. You know, future Survivor players, if you need other people in your tribe to know you, you're looking, do what he did. You know, bring them each on their own one-on-one excursion. Don't trust them being like, I'm taking you because I trust you for this part of the task.

Well, because everybody had to take a shift babysitting Andy. Yeah, apparently. So and it's crazy because now the one person who doesn't know about this, it might be used on him. Yeah. So that's pretty fun. Ultimately, we see Sam that he ends up getting the idol and and so first with sam was this the right decision for sam to take the one tribal council idol because i feel like that when we when we get to rome uh i feel like that for rome this was an easier decision yeah but sam is in such a good spot yes seems to be able to have just free reign of the island to go look for the idol for more tribal councils. I thought for Sam that he should have kept going.

I 100 percent agree. I mean, he's in a position where no one wants him out right now. He has potentially two number ones on the island with Sierra and Andy. And he's like you said, he's in a great position. And like even if they were to go to tribal council and he didn't have his vote, he'd probably be fine. I would think that he would, yeah, keep going, especially given how he's been playing so far. He seemed to be someone who'd be like, I'm going for broke. I'm playing the long game. I want this idol come merge because that's when players like him probably face the most heat. You don't

really, you know, players like him probably aren't going to be voted out like early on pre-merge unless you do something crazy. The only thing that I could think of is that maybe he now has a full idol and maybe that there's a little bit more of like, hey, we got to blindside him. Sam's too powerful that we're going to let this guy get to the merge. And yeah, with this this idol i feel like he should guarantee himself the numbers after this like no matter what like what side he goes on he should be able to have a full decision on what happens next with tribal austin in thinking about

this going to tribal council at first when i heard that sam was saying i want to play the idol on andy what do you think of that at first i, I'm like, what are you crazy? This is a horrible idea. But just to think it through, okay? So if we do have these two pairs that are in this tribe, we have Austin and Sierra. Rachel and Sierra. I'm sorry. No, no, no.

Sam and Sierra. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. Austin, we have Sam and Sierra. Oh, yes. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. Austin, we have Sam and Sierra. Oh, yes. Okay. Yes.

Okay. Then we also have Annika and Rachel. You know, if they vote out Andy, they're potentially going into a rock draw at the next tribal council. So on Sam's part, this is kind of a shrewd move to potentially play the idol on Andy and then have three people going against whoever comes out of Annika or Rachel. I totally agree. I think the only thing that might be a little bit unoptimal is like bringing that up immediately before they're even have the heat of a potential tribal council. Cause when that information just floating around, like who knows what will happen in five days? Uh, you know, that the word could spread. So if I were him,

I would have held on a little bit longer. But I like the idea of using it on Andy. A, Andy is so much fun and entertaining. I love his storyline so far. I don't want it to end. But also, like you said, I think that would for sure seal Andy as a number for Sam.

This idle hunt that the players went on, do you feel like that, have they turned down the intensity from what you had to do in season 45 yeah you know i like that they have to lose their votes because i was plagued with this terrible idol that took forever to get um i think they did tone it back a little they also updated a little bit the terms of it where like now it's you know last for one then it lasts for three versus for 45 it was it lasts for one but if you upgrade it it lasts until mergatory or until like the players

all meet on the same beach but because i only went to try one tribal before then it was pretty much my first upgrade did nothing it was still only lasted the same amount of time so i think they kind of fixed that up and now it's sort of like you have to do, you have like a break between the tasks. Like you can like get that idol and decide if you want to go to the next task or not. Instead of, for me, it felt like I had to do every single task in the beginning to get this loser idol

and then work from there. So I think it is slightly upgraded from 45. It's still tough, but. How about for Andy now? Do you feel like that he has his survivor legs under him? Do you think that he can now get back to, you know, playing the game that maybe we thought he was going to play in the preseason? I think not quite.

I don't think it'll, I think it'll take at least one more tribal council where he's on the right side of the boat, because I think right now, if something goes wrong, he might still tank back. Like you saw when he realized his beware advantage wasn't there. He almost had another panic attack. So it's's like i think he's still on shaky ground but he's in the right direction it ends up being and we didn't talk about that part of it where he goes to sam and says hey sam guess what i think the girls got the idol i found it and i put it back and he came

clean and said like wow i really i really like this guy i gotta got to keep him safe. Yeah, yeah. That was so funny. The jaw drop, like, oh my gosh. And I'm excited for if he does end up playing the idol next tribal council, Andy just be like, well, what on earth? Like, you literally lied to my face after I told you this. You had it this whole time, even though you used it on me. So it's probably going to be like conflicting emotions.

Yeah. But just that that revealing of you know a secret of i tried to do something and you know we kind of said that a little bit with asia last week of like oh i tried and it didn't work and people like oh okay you opened up you didn't lie to me so now i trust you like that was a very good thing for andy it was yeah sam's now trust Andy. I think Sam thinks that Andy views him as his number one ally on the beach, which if

I'm Andy, that's excellent. Sam will never vote you out if he's a good player. So I think it's good for Andy. He kind of stumbled into excellent fortune. Let's talk about what's going on over on the Red Tribe. It was a quieter night for Asia, certainly,

that she talked a little bit about how great it was that they have the toolkit. But it was a lot about Rome. Everybody's talking about Rome. Also, can we say about Rome, his intro shot in the opening sequence, where he's like flying, that was sick. Yeah.

That's one of the best ones I've seen. Taken from this challenge. I mean, he- Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jeff said, Rome's going for style points. Yep, exactly. That's exactly what I thought too when I saw it.

Like, there it is. He is a character. He is a showman. He is. He is. And I think, as you said, when he had the choice to pick up that beware advantage, his decision made a lot of sense. It's like, OK, now you can you should use this time to really build a long term alliance now that, you know, you're safe for one tribal. But instead, he just goes and annoys people for like an entire montage talking about how great he is.

It's like, ah, yeah, man, like you have to. Let's take it from the top. Okay, so we see Rome from the last episode. He had gone into the well. He got the key. He went to go unlock the box. He can't read it. So he goes and he wants to tell somebody.

He tells Teenie, hey, Teenie, just so you know, I have this box. We can't read it. It's nighttime. And then we'll go open it tomorrow. Teenie then goes and grabs kishan and kishan says she says uh hey check out rome's uh hidden immunity idol box and then rome walks up on them like hey this was a series of blunders from start to finish i mean first off when rome tells teeny about this beware advantage the last thing you want is it to immediately switch to a

confessional where teeny or teeny is like damn it he has it so that's error one you know rome should have known i should not tell teeny this immediately good on teeny for you know building that social social trust with rome to tell her that. But then immediately burns it down by bringing Kishan there before Rome even got to read it himself. Like, of course, Rome's going to go as soon as it gets bright out to read it. Like, you should at least wait till the evening, you know, after you know Rome isn't going to be going back there. Just a series of mistakes. It was hilarious.

But because of that, I think it made a lot of sense rome took it but that being said for rome to tell teeny and teeny doesn't really trust rome you think it's probably bad but i just think back to uh sophie and kim in winners at war and there was like this mechanism where you found the idol you had to show it to somebody and kim shows the idol to sophie and sophie has a confessional she's like why are you showing this to me you really you shouldn't you shouldn't do that but then they end up working together is that a thing like somebody like even if like i don't trust you but you trust me so i guess i trust you now i guess i'll keep you but there were further

confessionals of teeny being like he is everyone's target I'm so upset I can't vote him out. But this could be a corner sort of like they're forced to work together. They don't want to work together, but they're forced. And over time, they grow to love each other and then they make a deep run together. Yeah. I can sort of see that kind of narrative spinning. I don't know if anybody on the tribe is coming to love Rome. Maybe at home we're coming to love Rome.

But we see Rome. at home we're coming to love Rome. But we see Rome, he is talking with Asia about how he could have been in the NBA. I think maybe Asia might have been trolling Rome a little bit like, oh, he didn't do a good job. That was definitely a dead man.

We saw Rome talking about all sorts of different things that he can do, that he can start the fire in 17 seconds okay why would you brag about that first of all that's something you whip out at fire you know you don't you you stumble you kind of suck at first when you're doing like man like yeah i did this a few times at home i can't get it to work which i guess he ended up doing on accident um by

not being able to start the fire which is kind of funny but um yeah i don't know why he's saying that but maybe he's like listen look at me i'm leaving all my cards on the table you can trust me i'm not thinking like super strategically not a big threat rome even said he told his tribe mates next season i'm gonna host the on fire podcast yeah yeah you know he's making a lot of these bold could you imagine now back when when you played that so i guess that uh that it was not known it was not known that it would be like rick i'm not sure if rick davidson started doing it and i think there were maybe three four episodes or something when we went out so yeah we had no idea we were like oh it's just gonna be one season and done now it's part of the meta yeah and now okay now we're playing the the survivors themselves are playing for on fire but and it's

yeah and he's like saying i want this thing that we all might be you know multiple people on this beach are going to be competing and wanting so why don don't I just vote you out now, Rome? Because if I want to be the host of this and you want to be the host of it, I'll just send you out sooner. So you can't be the host of it. Yeah. I mean, that was a fun moment for sure. But here's Rome now with an idol. And now what do they do? Also, where's Genevieve? Oh yeah. Whoa. Where was she?

I don't know. I feel like that she's been like we saw her at like one confessional like could somebody just check that Genevieve did not get medevaced out of the show because they haven't seen her since they got to the beach that's a good point yeah I remember her in the first episode this one I don't know did she even get a confessional this episode

I don't think she had a confessional yeah I don't think so either. But Asia sat out of the challenge, so she must have run the challenge. Yeah, you're right. Wow. Well, hopefully she's okay and she returns from the hospital. She might be the only person who's not saying like, okay, I've had enough of Rome.

I'm sick of Rome. That is true. That could be like the secret alliance that will be built up next week. I mean, I'm hoping for it. Rome is that name. That was Genevieve's one confessional from the first episode that Genevieve was saying to Teenie, like, hey, I really like Rome. I think we should work with Rome. Whoa, that is true. Let's save a spot for Asia. I'm curious why they didn't show that perspective again this episode.

Maybe they didn't have anything of that, but I don't know. That is interesting i also feel like that genevieve was missing when it was uh asia and teeny and sol um and kishan looking for rome last week whoa where is she this is like conspiracy theory right now i don't know i think we'll we'll see but i do wonder maybe could she be the person who ends up being the target if they can't vote for Rome? Cause it seems like she might be the person who's not in the tight four, which could be Asia, teeny Saul and Keyshawn. Yeah.

The Lavo tribe. I think we know by far the least of the dynamics. Like we know that Rome would be at the bottom, but I don't think we really know anything besides that. Right. So that, that'll be really interesting to see see or they might do like what you know red tribe did in 45 and make it really deep without having to worry about tribal council so who knows now Austin we Scott uh Keyshawn in this episode talking about how that Rome he's all about the big flashy move that's what he's here to do.

Like, do we think that potentially, even with an idol, that Rome could be in danger? Could he try something? Yeah. I mean, if anyone on that tribe will throw a random idol to someone just for the heck of it, it'll be Rome. But I don't know. I feel like too many people have been burned

with idols in their recent memory that maybe that won't happen it seems like people are playing safer this season than in seasons past so far so maybe not but yeah I feel like that in the preseason interviews a lot of people talked about how like I'm not going for the beware advantage, idols that they don't really do too much or people that people just need to play their idols with something big that people ended up saying. So I do wonder maybe if the idols might be coming out a little faster in these seasons and people not just trying to hold on to their advantages for as long as possible. Yeah, it definitely seems that way. hold on to their advantages for as long as possible. Yeah, it definitely seems that way. I mean, with two of the three people picking just the one-time use

and one only going halfway and then using it on the first tribal when they weren't in danger, I think if that tells us anything about where this season's going to go, I think you're absolutely right. Okay. Where do you think we go next?

Who's in the most danger going into episode three? I think, I think there's going to be something with, uh, Sam and Anika. I think that from the, uh, the next time on survivor looks to be the next big feud where it seems like

Anika is calling out a potential showmans. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, um, you might be somebody who, uh, who could be a good uh uh expert in this area what do you think is there a developing showmance with you know they do seem to be very close

but i don't get vibes that they're in a showmance plus i mean i don't i feel like they they have relationships outside of survivor i don't know the I feel like they have relationships outside of Survivor. I don't know the backstory on like are either of them spoken for about, you know, I don't recall either of them talking about a relationship at home in their preseason interviews. But I don't really want to speak to that. I don't know anything about it. It's a bold thing to claim. And we see on the next time just straight up, just like, is there like, are you two dating? It's like, Oh, that is crazy. I mean,

that immediately puts two people head to head right there. It's not like you're like, I have to suss this out and see, and then maybe vote them out. If they are, it's like bringing it to the forefront. Like, let's just Duke it out right here.

And only one of us will live. I do think that Anika was somebody who in the preseason talked about how that she was going to be very outspoken. And she might just say things that come to her mind. That will it seems to seems to be that's what she's doing. And I love it. You know, I'm very curious to see where that goes. I mean, I couldn't imagine like, you know, being on a tribe and just being called out for a non-existent showmance.

And it's just like, what do you do with that? Like, it's like, no, like, what are you talking about? And I just I don't know that that's rattling. just like what do you do with that like it's like uh no like what are you talking about um and i just i don't know that that's rattling so especially if they do have like relationships back at home to be perceived as being in a relationship with someone on the island like i'm sure that could be very rattling and something where if i were sam or sierra i was like okay let's get annika out right now and if i'm annika i would know like okay they're probably gonna gun for me now i gotta get one of them out now so it's it's gonna be i think a battle pretty andy in the background like this is good for andy

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which I think, I mean, I guess, okay, Emily Flippin, financial analyst. So yeah, okay, maybe there is a little more. I saw a tweet comparing Caroline with Dina once again from survivor Amazon. And now I can't see it. Yeah. So that's what I'm seeing now. Visually or just like her mannerisms. I think the mannerisms more sort of just like very like kind of stern looking, like very serious, but strategic, like mainly strategic, serious.

Yeah, I don't know. I kind of I got to study a little bit more. I read it after finishing watching so i have to go back to the tapes but now that's kind of tapped into survivor the amazon it's kind of crazy it's been coming up multiple times but it's it's a very entertaining season i'm not just saying it but okay well if you have any questions for me we could do them at the end of the podcast okay oh man i might have to bring my mom in for that. All right. Sounds good. All right. Jack wants to know who's the biggest winner from tonight, Sue or Gabe? I would have said Gabe if he didn't play his idol. Yeah, then it would have been good. Now

it's sort of like, I don't know. Like, did everyone know that he had an idol at that point? Well, it came up in the tribal council that Jeff asked, who is the person who's out like looking for advantages or is anybody looking for advantages? And Caroline's like, well, Gabe's kind of that guy. And Gabe had an interesting answer. He's like, hey, come on. I'm on Survivor. Let me let me look for the thing. I want to be in the end of Jones. That is true.

I like that answer. I feel like that's the best way to answer that accusation, honestly. Light-hearted, you know, just being like, I'm here for the adventure. It's not strategic. I think that's good. But to answer your question, I think Sue, potentially, now. Okay. Yeah.

I think that, hmm, who's the bigger winner, Sue or Gabe? I do think that Sue has a lot of options here. I feel like that she kind of owns the Tiana relationship. She has Gabe. She could move on from Gabe. So I think probably if I had to pick one, I think I would say Sue. Also, Sue is the biggest winner from where we can question, was it a good move for Gabe to get rid of TK?, was it a good move for Gabe to get rid of TK? It was definitely a good move for Sue to get rid of TK as TK was gunning for her.

Yeah, I think Sue went potentially from bottom of the tribe to top two or so. Can I ask you about something that Jeff said at the tribal council? it was in reference to uh jeff was talking uh to uh i i'm not sure if it was uh to tk or tiana about their emotions from losing the challenge and you know uh talking about it at tribal council and jeff said he thought that that was this was like the epitome of the uh new era survivor player, that they are more likely to talk about what's actually going on. Do you find that is there actually a difference from, say, somebody who's playing in Survivor 47 versus somebody that might be playing in Survivor 37, where were the players prior to the new era maybe holding their cards a little closer to the vest? Yeah, I think maybe, you know, less of a difference 47, 37, but if you look further

back than yes, for sure. I think right now in the new era, one of the hardest things is figuring out who's telling the truth, who's lying because everyone is so gamey, so strategic has studied the game. So when you see someone who's like really wearing their emotions on the sleeve, it's sort of like, okay, I might be able to trust this person a little bit more because they have giveaways. They're sharing exactly how they're feeling. Like they're saying it as it is. And I think I personally am more gravitated

to people like that because I feel like I can trust them a little more. And I think other players know this. So they try being like, listen, if I'm feeling some way, I'm just going to say it out now so that you know, like can trust me i'm not gonna be holding things back from you so i think that sort of meta to the game has probably gotten stronger and evolved since 37 or earlier on but i can't you know say for sure do you think that the lack of having food is potentially a contributing factor to that where that you have less ability to be able to hide how you might actually be feeling? Oh, for sure. That mixed with the harder time

sleeping, just being dirty, uncomfortable. It's really hard to just hold things back over and over, especially when you're living with them 24 seven. So yeah, definitely. And they just lost out on the reward reward they probably had dreams of catching fish because they're a strong tribe they probably went into that challenge being like we're gonna have fish tonight and then not only are they sending someone home but they're not getting fish they're even hungrier it's one of the tougher days on survivor so yeah i think didn't they just catch that giant crab oh wait actually that is true that is the biggest crab i've ever seen on survivor like that was like at least eight times bigger 10 maybe even 20 times bigger than the crabs we caught like ours

were little baby sand crabs that one if that wandered into my doorstep like i actually would be in tears that would have been the best day of my life okay andrew asks uh did sam do the right thing by doing each phase of the idol process with a different woman? Yeah, I guess he was kind of like The Bachelor. Like it was going on like different dates with every single woman on the drive to go do like, all right. Hey, all right. It's your turn. Come on. Come with me and let's do a part of the idol hunt. I think he did a great like that was a great decision on his end, because as soon as he found it with Anika, in my mind, I was like, okay, Anika for sure is going to tell Rachel, like Sam needs to

tell those four so that everyone knows. And it comes from him. He immediately does that. And then he goes, takes everyone on a little field trip to like talk to them, find this with them just so that they know I'm not hiding anything from you. So I think that was really well done. And by doing one-on-one, it's also less sketchy. You can have people babysitting the Andes. And I think, I think it worked out great. I don't know what your thoughts are, but yeah, I mean, I thought everything

has gone so well for Sam, uh, so far. I mean, he's really looking like one of the front runners through two episodes. Yeah. And I think players like Sam and I kind of viewed myself in a similar like spot is like in these this early game you have to be playing extra hard because this is when like players like me have more freedom like unless we screw up really bad we're not gonna get voted out so now it is when we have to really build the long-term alliance he can't find the advantage austin what happened which is why that was a little unlucky you know he was on a tribe that didn't necessarily need his strength. But most of the time, it's when players like Sam need to really start making their moves so that at the merge, they can kind of sit back a little bit and not get the attention.

Okay. And we mentioned your tribe mate Sifu was here. I said, Sifu is here. Say hi to the great and beautiful Austin. What am I, chopped liver, Sifu is here. Say hi to the great and beautiful Austin. What am I, chopped liver Sifu? Then listen. Oh, Sifu. It's so important in the beginning. I'm interested to see how they move forward. It's true.

I do think like now, I don't know. I feel like the challenges are more physical early on now than they were in earlier. So I'm watching Amagry. I agree. And yeah, it was a lot of puzzles you had that matching trading game you know biting off the meat and stuff which yeah we're all crazy and fun but like i think this one is more i don't think just um and and the all-stars might be a little bit different not that i was there for that many of the challenges but um there was not one challenge in Survivor the Amazon that was

probably one tenth as hard as the average pre-merge immunity challenge on Survivor in the new era. Yeah. And I think the Survivor formula with the challenge is like, yeah, we have a really demanding, devastating physical part followed by a puzzle or a finesse thing. And that evens it out with these tribes. So it seems like that's kind of the formula now. I love it. The challenges are my favorite part, but, um, but yeah, it's definitely changed a lot. And I do think strength is especially important. Um, how long does a challenge take? I think usually around 30 ish minutes. I think when you get to the individual challenges where you're holding onto something, I think either shorter, but I don't think it rarely goes over an hour,

even those ones, um, because they've designed them now to be harder because the 26 days, you don't have that extra day to sort of strategize and stuff. You go to tribal right after, um, you know, your challenge and everything. So they don't want it to take six hours and you only have 30 minutes to scramble, you know? So I think they're the, the challenge is usually 30 minutes to an hour. Okay. Ryan Irwin is here and asks us, does this start Kyle's redemption story slash edit?

Does Kyle need a redemption story? Yeah, I don't, I didn't see him hit the bottom yet, but I mean, he's in a good spot and I think this could be instead of a redemption, just like this is where he starts taking off, potentially.

He has a little base, but yeah, I agree. I don't think he really follows the team. I don't think they would vote out another guy from that blue tribe, you know, next. Although, you know, I think Tiana is in trouble, but she's strong. And I don't think

Tiana wants to exactly vote out kyle yet either i mean she explained in confessions how she was really sad that she was having to blindside him like there seems to be a lot of good feelings towards kyle like no one dislikes him i think but he was on the wrong side of the vote so okay all right then ray wants to know how does tonight's episode hurt or help Gabe's survivor Mount Rushmore prospects? He said he wants to be one of the faces of the new era Mount Rushmore. I'd say if he refinds the idol and then plays it correctly, he's back on track.

I mean, he's off to a decent start. I mean, he's doing all right. He is. He's doing all right. He's doing all right he is he's doing all right he's doing all right i wish he didn't play that idol but yeah it's still a chance yeah but if anybody's gonna go out and find it again like his hero russell i feel like that he has a very good chance to go out and do that exactly you know we didn't talk that much except in the right when we started about rachel with the rice and putting the rice in her pocket. I just, I love that. Um, but then spicy Jeff, uh, caught her, uh, Rachel, something you'd like to share with the rest of the class that, uh, like every person who's played knows exactly like how

tempting that would be seeing her put it in there. I was rooting her on. I was like, please. But then you see the closeup. Like I remember remember noticing her like when they're doing the puzzle i could see her kind of putting things in her pocket i'm like she actually putting rice but then when they zoomed in i was like oh game over they're gonna call her out okay now first off did she make a mistake of putting it in her pocket and not like into her water bottle i mean by the end of the day, maybe you have lunch. That is true. Like somewhere where it's wet.

Honestly, I would've just eaten like the dry rice. I would just put a handful in my mouth. She said that. I wanna just do that. Yeah, like trip and fall face first into it and just like take a big bite. I just wonder if Jeff would've been like, Rachel, spit that out!

Spit out that rice right now! What's in your mouth uh do you think her getting caught for that makes her target bigger at all that's a good question i i actually thought that she played it off well and i feel like that it was sort of like a character like funny moment i i don't think that she came across as like schemey for doing that yeah i think everyone there kind of understood when they were like oh that's funny and yeah you're right her reaction was like very light-hearted like oh caught sorry yeah but it was good good opportunity for spicy jeff to come out yeah yeah luckily he didn't have his knife on him i got a little uncomfortable when uh you know what what

which season was was it your season or was it uh that he took the rice negotiation well yes with the rice negotiation and then i guess was it 46 then he took the he they put the bandana on the immunity idol and he cut it off with the knife again oh yeah yeah so he's very quick to talk about going he just has the knife yeah he just has it on his back pocket. And, uh, I mean, yeah. Because they were like, uh, okay. Here's the, here's the, the immunity idol. And Jeff's like, uh, all right, give it to me. Don't make me get my knife out. Oh my God. What are you going to do with that bag of rice? And like, you know, Andy's going at it, stabbing it in the background and being like, yeah,

rip it. Like you ripped that coconut and all that. I was nervous. was nervous he's gonna stab himself he was going so crazy with it i was like oh my god like if anyone stabs himself right now andy and i do not want to see that i was like scally if you're listening we i think we need a gif of andy with the rice uh you know spooky season coming up maybe we could use that sometime for i don't know i don't know what for he was going at it he was going at it it was like watch your hands all of his frustrations were just let loose like I'm pretty sure he stabbed an extra 10 times and he needed

to but you know got the job done didn't injure himself yeah you just need to get the ball out I don't know if he might have overdone it it's dead it's dead Andy don't know if he might have overdone it. It's dead. It's dead, Andy. You can't store it.

He's still stabbing it as they're doing the little puzzle. Yes. Okay. How about, why wouldn't Gabe give his idol to Sue? Is it to save face with Kyle? That was kind of what I was thinking, but it's hard hard like there's i i hope they kind of explain this a little bit more i feel like there could be a confessional next episode of why he played on himself or something like that but yeah that i think that was what i took out of that okay

all right um page says do you think that jeff would have called out Rachel by the rice if all the tribes tried to smuggle some out of the challenge? Oh, that's a good question. I mean, if they all started doing it, everybody, I think he would have been like, all right, everybody, dump out your packets. I think so, too, because then it'll set a precedent. Exactly. Because then you don't want, you know know tribe members all looking for food every challenge from going forward you know so i think i think he would have done the same yeah i don't think i don't think so i don't think it would have been uh that uh they would have got away with it i don't

think it was a fairness issue okay stew asked question about kyle uh how does kyle reintegrate into the tribe after this vote seeing that everybody left him in the dark who would be the best person or people for him to fall back on? What's Kyle's plan moving forward? I feel like he's on a tribe with a bunch of strategic gamers who will see him as an opportunity

being like, this person's on the bottom. I'm gonna try scooping him up. And you might have multiple people trying to do that. I'm not too worried about him because we haven't seen anyone talk badly about him. He seems to be very sociable. He's good for the tribe morale, it seems like. He's fine in challenges.

I think it's going to be more like people are going to be competing for his number versus him trying to get back from the bottom. That's kind of my thought. I don't know what you think. Yeah, I just think that he seems like such a nice guy that I feel like that Tiana really feels strongly about him and you know even though that gabe didn't want to work with tk he's not out on him seems like he has a relationship with caroline a little bit so yeah i just think even though that he was talking loud sue did not

like that yeah i mean okay it's survivor i was on tk TK and Kyle's side on that. It's like, you're out, you're at the beach. You can't talk now on survivor. Like if you want to take a nap, go in the far corner of the beach, take your nap there, whatever. I mean, or like at the word that you're listening to conversation, that's not a bad thing. Like you're getting more information. If you want to sleep, you get too of hours of sleep. No, volume is too loud. I get that a lot too, Austin. My wife says I'm a loud talker. Well, you know what? It makes more sense when it's non-survivor.

You know, outside survivor, okay, inside voices, whatever. Don't talk next to home sleeping. What do you mean? There's no inside voice on survivor. I'm saying on survivor, they are not. I was on the side of TK and Kyle. But in real life, okay, I could get annoyed if someone is talking to me and I'm trying to napor, they are not. I was on the side of TK and Kyle. But in real life, okay, I could get annoyed if someone is talking to me and I'm trying to nap. But it's Survivor.

Yeah, I guess if people have a head down, though, I guess you could take it somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my thought. It was like, if this is the reason why TK goes home, I'm going to be upset. But it seems like there's more than that afterwards. Okay. Let's do a couple more. Zach wants to know, did Sam make himself too big of a threat this week? Sam's in a tough spot because I think while he's perfectly safe in my eyes, well, depending on what happens with this Anika drama pre-merge, I think the target on him will be very big once he hits

the merge. So I'm very curious to see how he navigates that, which is why I kind of wanted him to upgrade the idol a bit further. So he would have had more protection at the merge when it becomes more important. But, um, but yeah, I think with his current tribe,

he's not in a bad spot, but at the merge, I don't think he's too big of a threat. I think he's doing all right right now, Sam. All right. Well, I mean, he's, he's too big of a threat. I think he's doing all right right now, Sam. All right. Well, I mean, he's doing great, but he's just so naturally charismatic.

And I think his confessionals are also hilarious. If you're out there with someone like him, I think it's easy to be like, this guy's a threat immediately. So in the snake maze with three people pulling the ball, we've never seen that before to do that like horizontally on Survivor. That was tough. It did seem like that him and Anika were having like a little bit of friction there also. Yeah, that's a good point. They seem to be building up that story.

I'm excited for next episode, but like this is everything that you're saying now is making me think for sure. It's going to be a showdown between Anika and Sam. Okay. Austin, what else about survivor 40 several? I think it's, it's a fun, it's been a fun season so far. I've really enjoyed watching Andy, you know, even before the season started, obviously seeing him being like, this is someone who I want to root enjoyed watching Andy, you know, even before the season started, obviously seeing him being like, this is someone who I want to root for someone who, you know, has a lot of similarities to me, of course, and just watching the paths be completely different. It's sort of

like I, when I watched him, like this could have been me in another universe. So it's been really fun watching that. I feel like we know a lot more about the God of tribe than the dynamics of the other tribe. They're very fascinating group right now now but i am curious to learn a little bit more about about tuku and about um uh tuku and there's got the tuku and lavu lavu yes okay glenn asks uh is rome the new bruce i i didn't really see that comparison. Just because... Bruce's son. I mean, maybe. I feel like they're very, very different types of players.

Him doing the moonwalk and Bruce doing the robot, like, it's similar. Yeah, but you put them on the island together. I don't think they're a natural ally. Both not an idol. That's true. Okay, that's fair enough. I feel like, like though their energies are

very different you know but but maybe i don't know i mean i feel yeah i don't know i don't know who i view rome as rome is kind of just like rome like esports commentator rome like that's how i view him like i can just picture him like commentating smash bros tournaments and stuff and like do you watch any esports i watch some competitive smash bros but that's mostly it i don't think those are what he commentates so i don't think i've heard him out in the wild but i might have to tune into some now okay all right austin anything else uh fun going on in your world well like i said this is my last little week and a half until watching Amazon with mom. Yes.

Yep. So tonight I'm going to watch Big Brother. You know, actually, the crazy thing, my roommate, he ended up being he's on a show that releases today, too. So like randomly my freshman year from college, he's on the floor. Oh, yes. With Rob on Fox. You were. Yeah.

I haven't watched it, but I'm going to tune in. What is area of expertise is. I honestly didn't even know you needed one for that. I haven't watched it, but I'm going to tune in tonight. Do you know what his area of expertise is? I honestly didn't even know you needed one for that. I don't know anything about the show. But he, if I had to guess, it's in movies, entertainment. He watches all that. He's very good at that. Okay. So the floor, it's 100 people and they each have one area of expertise of like their subject matter of everything. They know everything about that. If you were on the floor, what would your category be? What's the thing that you know more about than anybody else?

Than anybody else. Holy cow. I have to think about that. I mean, I know. I mean, sandwiches, right? i know i mean sandwiches right usually usually i would say survivor but i'm in a community i'm talking to now where at least half of this audience could smoke me in any survivor question but outside of this group survivor yes okay but okay besides survivor anything else oh i mean what's something we wouldn't know about you? You know, I like, you know, photography, maybe that I've got some good, is that, is that a category, you know, I'm really like questions about the camera or is it like about like different,

like a famous photographers? More so the former. I, I, I'm not a good history guy, but I can tell you the technicalities of a camera and the different stuff and, you know, how to take photos and, you know use photoshop and all that but uh yeah not uh not so much a history graphic design was a passion of yours more more uh more like just like a light room you know just editing like landscape photos or whatever so yeah i actually just got this little like and portrait yeah photo like frame thing so it just kind of goes through a bunch of photos that you took. Yeah, it's all pictures that I took. You know, I'm moving to L.A.

So I'm like prepping like my my furniture and my decorations. And I like, you know, I have all like thousands of photos. I might as well put it on a little photo frame thing. So that's been fun. All right. Cool. Nice. And learn something new about austin what do you do

what would you do oh besides so this we happen to uh be talking about this for an episode of robin i keep need a podcast this week of what is my area of expertise and i'm like i you know what i really i know very that i know uh a lot about only a couple of subjects. Like I'm not particularly useful. Okay. 90s trivia. Oh, okay. That's more probably useful for the show than photography. I feel like that's a bigger category than mine. I can talk a lot about the San Jose Sharks.

I used to be huge into them. Mets, Jets. Yeah, not too much. All right. But one thing I do know, survivor, the Amazon. Okay.

You got a question for me, Austin. Oh my gosh. I've got, okay. Well, I want to get my mom on this. She has a hundred questions, but she can,

uh, she can write them in if she has one. Uh, but here's one. Okay. Here's one. Yes. Do you think that the survivor

amazon was harder than survivor 47 so i think it's probably harder in different ways and that i feel like that when we played like in the very beginning of the show and you know i think there's some like you know there'll be people that played from the old era who will really like go to the mat about stuff like that. I do think that the 26 day game, not eating is super intense. But I think that there are other ways in which the 39 day game is more of a mind game of like just, you know, the sustained basically like 13 extra days like that's 50 percent more survivor uh yeah play like that's a lot and also i think that you probably if i had to guess are not bored that much in the 20s that's what i hear with that yeah i know and the boredom can really drive you bananas in a 39 day game of survivor. And if you could have a,

a personal item that you brought now, would it still be that magic eight ball or would you pick something else? I'd like to have the bell. I think it would probably screw up. Yeah. I don't think they would like that. They'd kind of get annoyed at that, but that would be, that would be a good one.

The boom guy would just crack the boom over my head after I had the bell. Dropped in the water. Okay, and the last one. Yes. How do you think Matthew does in this new era? Well, I think that he would start off in a Three Tribes format. I think he should start off uh doing pretty well but i just i'm not sure that he could necessarily like roll with the punches like when we get to like a

post merge and um you know i don't know i don't know if we'd go great fair enough i've been enjoying him so much nice guy mattwatch. Nice guy, Matteo. But I just feel like that in terms of like, you know, the game is very fast paced. Yeah. I feel like that was not Matteo. That is true. That is true. Fair enough.

Well, I'm sure I have a ton more, but these are just... Well, yeah. You and your whole family can get a hold of me anytime, okay? I appreciate that, Rob. And for everybody else, you have to wait until Friday to ask questions because that's when we've got the Survivor 47 patron Q&A is going to be back 4 p.m. Friday for patrons only to call in. I'll take your questions and we will talk about anything on your mind

about two weeks of Survivor 47. We've got everything Survivor coming your way in our Survivor-only podcast feed. Go to WeKnowSurvivor.com to hear it all from the exit interview. Know It All's with Marianne josh wiggler is going to be on the b&b survivor global the survivor news why blank lost and more that's all in our survivor podcast feed at we know survivor dot com of course uh austin was uh with us in person at some events last fall this time we're going to be back in New York City. We have a few select tickets still available. Okay. You can go ahead and get whatever's left at, what is it? Robbinswebsite.com slash NYC 47. Thank you, Sam. Robbinswebsite.com slash NYC 47. Thank you, Sam. Rob's website.com slash NYC 47.

That's October 16th coming up three weeks from tonight. All right. Then we had a fantastic start to the golden bachelorette season on the brand new America tells all where big brother 24 winner Taylor Hale join America. You can catch up on week number one or check out episode number two, which is going to be dropping Thursday. Also, America is going to be joining Amy and Haley,

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I know you haven't watched big brother yet. Austin spoilers. Izzy is going to be joining Taryn for tonight's Big Brother 26 Veto Recap. It's a 90-minute episode of Big Brother tonight. And Izzy will be joining Taryn. That episode is just wrapping up now. So in about 15 minutes, we've got a Big Brother recap of the 90-minute episode of Big Brother 26. Okay?

And of course, check out everything else we have going on. Subscribe to any of our podcasts. Go to robinswebsite.com slash subscribe. Boom. All right. Wednesday is stacked with shows. It's stacked in double eviction for Big Brother tomorrow night. Taylor Hale

is going to join us for the double eviction. That's going to be awesome. All right. Austin, you did a great job tonight. Oh, thank you eviction. Wow. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. OK. All right. Austin, you did a great job tonight. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, that means a lot. I was looking forward to it.

It was it's been a while since I've done a podcast. And yeah, well, it was super fun to talk about the episode with you. Where can people keep up with what you're doing? I mean, on all the regular socials, I've got Instagram, YouTube, TikTok. I just posted a video actually on YouTube and TikTok of me and Drew. And it's doing pretty well. It's pretty fun. What were you guys doing in the video? It's like this like to this song and it's like, you know, them, you know, they can't know that we're allies and it's us and it's us, you know, just like eating together, holding hands, like feeding each other laying in bed together you know just just like typical ally stuff yeah okay uh could drew

basile get on the floor that's not your that's not your friend that's on uh the floor right no it's not my friend i mean drew could probably sweep the floor i've never watched winning game shows it's actually crazy so. So, you know, I'm just supporting all my super smart friends that I have and hopefully they can take me along with them wherever they go.

Anybody who's friends with Austin wins a lot of money on game shows. You're a lucky guy. I wonder who's next. Yeah, who's next? All right. Everybody, thank you so much.

I love to read your comments so uh please keep them coming over on youtube take care everybody have a good one bye