RHAP: We Know Survivor - Australian Survivor Reveals Its Next Host | The Reality Flash

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

In today's podcast, Mike is joined by Shannon Guss to talk through the recent announcement of the new host of Australian Survivor following Jonathan LaPaglia's departure from the series.

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Free access ends August 24th. Visit Ancestry.ca for more details. Terms apply. Breaking news are happening now. Hi everybody and welcome to the reality flash. My name is Mike Bloom and I'm here to bring you the flashiest breaking news in the wide world of reality TV. Today, after weeks of speculation, Australian Survivor has officially announced its next host. For what some would call the gold standard of Survivor, is it going to get more golden?

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We are going to be getting into information that spoils the results of up to this point the first two episodes of Australian Survivor, Australia versus the World, which premiered on Sunday. If you have not watched the season so far and you would like to remain unspoiled, Do not listen to this podcast. Please leave. Yeah, just straight up. Go. Go away and never return later.

Return later. We're trying to come back when you've watched it. What are you still doing here? Get out. So we are going to be getting into events that occurred over those first two episodes as they play very much into the announcement of the new host of Australian Survivor. But you heard her melodious voice just a bit ago telling you all to leave. We would not be here talking about Australian Survivor in general, let alone this news, if it was not for her.

She is the chief international correspondent, Fault thing survivor, most prominently Australian survivor, Australia versus the world, which has gotten off to a rollicking start to say, the least is my best friend, the one,

the only Shading Gus. That was such a good intro. I feel bad because we just, we just did a podcast that will come out after this. And your intro was so much better than mine. And it's like so easy to compare because they're back to back.

Well, listen, you know, you were able to set it up. I had to, I had to try to match the praise you have fond upon me. So I decide to do so deservedly as we are going to get into a major piece of game-changing news for Australian Survivor. Let me say, one more time, get out, ye innocent faces. If you don't wish to be spoiled on what has just happened on Australia versus the world, of course, if you're a patron of RHAP, you can go check out that episode right now. So please, sign up. have the ways and means to do so.

But, Shannon, it was just but a short while ago where we received the devastating news that Australian Survivor would be losing the very celebrated, very venerated Jonathan LaPalia as its host after Australia versus the world, which is currently ongoing. As we move into a new generation of Australian Survivor, so it comes with a new host. Now, we did an entire podcast about that. Shannon has done an entire open casket funeral for JLP. Check that out. we will not get into right now the reasons behind why it may have happened, what the process was,

but we are more so focusing today on the official new host of Australian Survivor. And after much speculation, Shannon, it turns out that the speculation was correct as mere what minutes following his boot from Australia and Survivor, Australia versus the world. The new host of the currently filming season of Australian Survivor is none other than former Chandler. champion and history-making winner of Deal or No Deal Island season two, David Janet. Yeah, I mean, isn't it crazy to think that like a week ago, was it on the draft that I was like, David will do well because he's going to be the host. You would think you have to make the merge to be the host. We thought that was the new datable and it's absolutely not.

It doesn't matter where you finished. Non-hostable and hostable. Is that how we're going to define who makes the merge versus no? Though I guess it's the opposite now. If you're a pre-merger, you can be a host. But he also is a two-time merge player, including a winner. So I don't know what the barometer is for that. But yeah, David's going to be the host.

People have feelings about it. I did see some posts getting ratioed in the short amount of time since this news has dropped. Crazy time to announce it. Can I just say no right answer for 10 to announce David? When JLP was out, people were so upset, like unanimously upset, hearing it was David. People were like even lower on David than they might have been. I think because he was taking that role from JLP. It was no good way to announce it.

But this was particularly bad. I think they put it in the middle of JLP's last season. They put it right after David was the first boot of his tribe. I think maybe you let JLP play the season out. Maybe you let him out this final historic season and you don't distract with news. There's a lot going on. Why now, Mike? Why would they think this is the time?

For a couple reasons. One of them, because I agree, it's wild. timing considering that yeah the context might be this guy just got voted out first from his tribe and he is going to be hosting the show well david's history speaks for itself to be fair that's the thing as well it's not defined by one particular season but i think a it is probably because of you know wanting to strike while the iron is hot that david walks out of the tribal council after he's voted out being like you retire to me i'm not playing australian survivor anymore it does seem like a nice set up for an announcement of like, but you'll see David back on our screens.

The other one might be that, look, I think it has been certainly rumored that when 10 released the news that Jonathan Lopalya would not be coming back to Australian Survivor, it was maybe a bit of a hand being forced that it was like, hey, you could go public about this information or it will be released without your consent. So maybe it was them also trying to kind of like get out ahead as much as they possibly could, even though this was also rumors that were kind of speculated ahead of time of like, all right, let's make this announcement now officially so we don't have to essentially be dragged out to say oh yeah and david's coming back too yeah i mean they didn't get out ahead of it at all like

if they were going to do that they should have announced it together which is also not the right answer like it would have eviscerated david even more than it did but then if they've missed that opportunity i think you take it to the end of the season maybe like it's the end of an era the season is over david will be the host we'll still remember david from episode two if you don't you're not the audience you know so i think that that's fine and Now, just putting in the middle of JLP's last season, I don't think it was the time. I was just like, what did we need? We needed like the post script after the episode, Marvel style.

Like, David will return in 2026. And we got it. We got it. But yeah, do you have the post of, so David posted and the network posted. And so. Yeah. So let's start with the network source officially first. This was posted on Channel 10 social media.

I'm reading this off of Twitter. So this was posted at what, 701 a.m. How many comments and how many guys? We have 174, likes, 145 comments. It's better. Actually, slipped a little, yeah. Yeah, but this is what they wrote. This isn't the last you'll see of David Janet.

He may have had his torch snuffed on a survivor Australia versus the world, but now David is stepping up to crown the next sole survivor. Filming is underway in the wilds of Samoa for the 12 season of Australian Survivor, pretend is thrilled to confirm that golden god will be at the helm, commentating every challenge in tribal council as Castaways battle it out, for the title of Soul Survivor in Australian Survivor, Redemption, coming in 2026. I mean, we'll get to the redemption aspect of it later on. Also, that was like one long run-on sentence for a paragraph.

David- Don't stop, don't pause, don't let him think about it, just keep talking. Just get through and get through it. Don't take a breath, because then they'll start talking back. But this is a much more condensed post, but still a large one from David, collaborating with Australian Survivor on Instagram that says, I have so much respect for Australian Survivor. This game has changed my life.

I love the players. I love the community of fans. And I love the crew who make it happen. As the new host of Australian Survivor, I won't let you down. So it should be said that right now, Australian Survivor is filming its next season. And so forgive, you know, the brevity of David's post. You know, he might have just had to throw together a few sentences

while in between tribal councils. we did get though a first look image of david's tribal council get up and even though you know he's played as an Australian he used to be an American he is rocking the full Canadian tuxedo denim on denim for his tribal council look a lot going on a lot going on in a photo I hadn't looked that much prior to this and what a reaction it is to have this live on the podcast so a lot going on in this for those that they're not watching the video yet it's a denim shirt button down shirt tucked into a pair of jeans yeah yeah with a little bit the button down you'd expect from david so he's still keeping a little cash hair in the ponytail in the low ponytail which i think we could have you know maybe maybe made some different choices on he has a snuffler in his hand oh my god he does have a snuffer in his hand i mean the fact of the matter is is that he's going to be you know helming this within, I imagine still

the wilds of Samoa. So I think you've got to keep your hair out of your face as much as possible, right? Especially because tribal council is hot, especially when you get all those fires, that it's an incredibly hot setting. So I think he wants to try to keep himself as cool as possible, which also then, questions, why is this man wearing

one of the thickest fabrics possible besides wool, not only on his upper half, but on his lower half as well? And is it like an old denim season or is it just like an old denim day? You'll have to wait till 20 26 to find out. I mean, yeah, we've talked about Australian survivors still with people making questionable wardrobe choices with like the jackets that they bring. So I think it's just part

for the course for David. Look, this isn't his look. Can you, he did play three seasons where he had long hair and it was. Yep, out. And more leather jacket. Yeah, imagine if he just cut his hair. Imagine if he like Samson did. And it was like, I'm J. Hoppe now and he like had a new haircut. Oh, that'd be interesting. If he, if he's sort of like a single white femaleed, married white mailed JLP and got his hair cut and wore his exact same clothing so that if people were more visually impaired they would have no idea that there was any difference have we ever seen a survivor host wear jeans that's a great question like the khaki pants that we usually yeah jeff jeff wears khaki pans I don't know I'm sure listen you've talked about the varying budgets and

qualities of some international seasons there's got to be at least one host out there over the past quarter century that is worn jeans on a common basis. I feel like there's as many jeans as there are women in the hosting chair. None. Yeah, more genes have been seen on a host. Now. Yeah, we got there first. And that was a race.

Maybe we're all in. Look, David looks different, but he looks great. I want to support David in this endeavor because I feel like this is a tough spot. This is a tough gig to come in on the heels of JLP leaving advice. fashion he made no you know no qualms about that it's been a long day um he's been doing more interviews since he's only doubled down on the way he felt on the way out the door now david did not fire jlp if david took the job or david was chosen i still believe it's david's prerogative like all's fair and love in survivor hosting right in business like he won a job to be honest and that's

a controversial opinion. I think for people who think he should have been above the level more of not even taking it. Yeah. And I'm honestly, I've certainly seen the Judas label assigned to him a couple times. But are he and JLP even friends? Like, what is their relationship? Like, contestant to host? Like, even if they are friends, like, I steal your job. Like, no, I wouldn't, I'm joking. I wouldn't do it. Not on your birthday. That'd be crazy. I'd never take your job. But I'm not David. David wants a survivor. He's a cutthroat guy. He gets what he wants. He's got this great gig now. I don't know. I think it's fine for him.

I think what they shouldn't have done that's a JLP. Let's get into this a little bit because, again, we don't have bombed this in our JLP announcement pod. But, you know, when it comes to bringing David on, you know, it really seems like, especially as you mentioned, JLP has talked a lot through what he believes was the rationale behind his dismissal being largely budgetary reasons. You've talked about how Channel 10 is in a need of titan. the belt a little bit, much like the belt around David's jeaned waste there. And so part of that might have been that they felt JLP was too expensive to bring on for another season or renew his contract. And what it's worth, David did win $5.8 million. And, you know, I got the chance to talk with him after the Dondy finale. And he basically said, like, what this has given me the opportunity to do

is to choose projects that I want to do rather than feeling like financially responsible that I have to take every single job just to keep food on the table. And so part of this might have been like, you know, if they can bring on somebody who is hireable for dirt cheap, who's a very familiar face to not only fans of Australian Survivor, but even international fans as well, considering the Dondy lineup, it does make sense on paper. I think as you mentioned, like, if it had to be done, this makes sense. the only worst thing about this all

is that they felt it had to be done in the first place. They're bringing in those Dondy fans. We did it. We got that extra niche market. Yeah, I mean, maybe they just love David. Like, we were just assuming that he's just doing it dirt cheap.

What if David's being paid a lot of money? We don't really know. We assume it's financial. Strands Viper definitely loves David, right? They love what he's brought to the show. Even in a first boot of his tribe, edit, it was glowing. Like, I think the show,

does and they knew he was going to be obviously the new host when they edited but like the show really does love david and maybe they i think it takes into a different direction for a new era we've we've spoken about we disagree with we don't think but we still so it's just an line between we don't agree but we also support david in this endeavor because it's tough and i'm still a lot of australian survivor and i'm still upset for jrp can we balance all those things. Is that fine? Is it fine for me to balance? We are, we are complex beings. And so I think it's difficult to balance all those ideas in our head, but we must. So here's the other thing as well that we can discuss is that, you know, this is not David's first time behind the podium as

a word. Maybe it is from a survivor perspective, but following his two seasons, his back-to-back seasons, an Australian survivor where he eventually comes away the champion. He really has parlayed into maybe not being as much of like a career reality TV contestant. as some of the people certainly that have been on Australia versus the world. But, you know, the next year he's on the Celebrity Apprentice Australia as a contestant alongside or facing down with, you know, his former nemesis Janine Allen. And then he ends up serving as like a guest host on Getaway, which I'm to believe, yeah, I'm to believe Shannon is getaway is some sort of like recurring travelogue show.

And perhaps most mapped onto a one-to-one ratio is that in 2023, he was a host of this show called Rush. that did only air for one season on a channel 9. It was sort of like a little bit of like an amazing racy type of thing where there were teams of three that would race around the world. But like they would also eliminate each other in a vote as well. So again, this is not David's first time hosting. When I mentioned this last time, I had a couple of people in the comments say that, you know,

they had the chance to watch Rush. And what it's given them a little bit of pause is that they do feel like David as a host was still kind of playing into the whole golden god over the top character persona which is one of my primary concerns to be honest i agree with you shen i want to give him a chance i think everybody should in due fairness but that's probably one of the biggest worries i have is that david made himself famous on this show on this planet by being this big character the golden god iron man blasting idols like repulsor rays being a host is a very very different thing. You are more of a facilitator. You are more of a fly on the wall. You have to listen

rather than speak and know when to speak. Do you think that he has that capacity or is he more naturalized to, again, be the one to do most of the talking in the room? I think he'll have to learn it because he has way more experience as a TV character than he does as a TV host. And, yeah, as you say, a host has to be a lot more neutral than the big characters who are dominating screen time as David did in his seasons of Survivor. So I think, it has to be learned it's interesting because i think rush was on a different network so david's not like i think often um 10 will kind of go back to similar hosts like they'll kind of have a suite of people that they use i'm still waiting for that call um they can go back yeah because i remember actually

with the jlp news you had said that like maybe like osher right who was yeah like osha talking tribal hosts like they have a bunch of like these hosts in pocket with the network that they could have utilized as well 100% that that's a really good example of people who were both on talking tribal in a guest and host capacity who both hosted Australian Idol back when I was like eight years old or I mean 10 years old.

So yeah, I think that they do have usually like, I would have think that if the JLP were to step away, they might go back to one of those like really familiar faces from 10 who are known as a host, not as a survivor player, not in the survivor world, but like for their hosting capabilities.

But they clearly want to go, they love David, maybe it's a money thing, and they want to go with the, the like extreme survivor angle of it. It's a very different take on it because he's not a naturalized host. He's a character that we know. And it will be a learning curve, I think we'll have to seem over,

assumingly a very long season of survivor learned that. Like there might be some growing pains to that. I think he could learn it. But it will be about pulling me back and seeing David in a very different light. And I'm sure he knows that. He has to do that. Yeah, I mean, this is rather unprecedented. There is one other example I can really think of where

a host steps down and in their place steps up an alumni and that would be Top Chef for me where Padma Lakshmi steps away after 20 seasons they bring on Kristen Kish

as a host now that was a fantastic example of how this can go well that Kristen was especially able to speak from the perspective of like I've done this before I know what it is what is needed for you to do well

I know what you can do to do better the difference is that you know top chef also a competitive reality show is a very different beast, very different set of ingredients from Survivor where it's less moderation, right? It's more so coming in from an advice perspective of like, hey, I've done this in the past, here's some stuff that you need to keep in mind. David, I don't think, I mean, actually I would not be surprised if we get like a day one match at where David's like, listen, I've played this game before. Here's what you need to do because, again, he has a very specific

style of play that's not going to apply to everybody. But I'd be hard-pressed to think of many other examples where a host is an alum of the show. I know that certainly it's been talked about that like if and when Jeff Probst ends up retiring from a survivor who would take over there. I think a lot of leaders in the clubhouse are former players. Do you think the dynamic inherently changes even if you're, you know, hosting a cast of new players if you are someone who like has played previously? Well, there's a few things here. Firstly, who hosted it when David actually won the 500K at the All-Stars finale, where JLK couldn't get into the country. I think it was Oshah.

It might have been Oshar, yeah. Or did JL.P. Get there in the end? Or was, did Osh to do it? He, he Skyped in, remember, because he was stuck in L.A. So did Oshah do it? I think, I would imagine so, because I think that was when you were doing talking tribal that season, like it makes the most nice.

I'm trying to think. Yep, it was hosted by Oshar, by Oshar Gunsberg. Yeah. Which is interesting because if they were going to do the same thing they're doing here, they could have got Luke, I think, was at the finale. We were meant to all do stuff with the finale. and then like COVID kept shutting it down and I didn't end up going and we were all locked away

so I don't even think Luke was locked in Perth I think he was there one of the few that were so they could have had Luke they chose to go for the 10 host in Oshah you know what I mean like so they chose to go down that path and that's obviously changed in just like the larger than life episode that David is I think if you're there with newbies you can be like a mentor something that I thought about that they did for a very short amount of time and they have now also done this again

when Chris Harrison left on the best of terms from the bachelor Yeah, that's a great, a big point. They brought in two. They brought in Caitlin and Tasia together, and they were like mentor figures to the new contestants because they'd both been in the position of being contestants and then of being leads. So I think that with newbies, there can be that element. It might make you less of an authority figure and more of like a peer, but that can work too. And now Jesse is the host.

And he was on the show ages ago, but he was also a former contestant. so but he he really feels like he really fits the mold of a very again like white male host on these shows and he was he played he played he competed competed he was on the bachelor a very long time ago so he feels more like he's like more of a traditional host of the show but I do think there is that mentorship aspect now that's for the newbies what about for the returnees which we know Australian Survivor loves to do there have been rumors that I don't know there been rumors and we'll just leave it that that the next season this redemption season has returnees, it would be hilarious if they were people who needed redemption from David.

Imagine how that might like mess with your mind. If it's like his former enemies of which he has many, that would be crazy. I came to Australian Survivor to revive my legacy from David Janet ruining my life. Oh no, David Janet is at every single tribal council. He voted me out of the game and I see him when I close my eyes and when I open them. Oh, he's actually, is that him? Are you all seeing this as well? Like, that could really mess with you, especially if it's in a hybrid and compared to newbies who do not have that element. So that's really interesting, and they do returnees so often. And on a season named Redemption, you'd think they'd all be returnees.

What would newbies need with the redemption theme? It's weird. It's like when they called random people villains. I don't know, Shannon. We had a heroes versus villains. Yeah, it was weird. The cast of half people that were apparently heroes and villains in real life. Though apparently, you know, one person really, a couple of these really confirmed they were

villains in real life. So they like to really have that theme apply loosely to what you do in your day-to-day, including that you need redemption in some way. But yeah, it must be such a trip if you are a returning player, even if you haven't played with David. Like, I assume that the Australian Survivor Network is small enough within its alumni that, like, you have to have had at least interactive with him, right? It's almost like when you have returning players in a fans versus favorites or blood

versus water season with Jeff Probes, where it's like, hey, me and Jeff have this relationship that you don't necessarily have with him. So, again, that's going to speak to, I think David's neutrality, like how could he handle a tribal council with returning players, where he's like, so-and-so, come on, you know better than this. Like, hopefully that doesn't slip out. That's the other thing, too, is that I think there has been a lot of comments over the years about, like, Jeff Probst inserts himself too much into the narrative. I think a lot of people say, okay, Jeff Probst is the 19th player on Survivor, and sometimes that's not necessarily in a good way, that again, he should be more of this kind of objective

voice that doesn't necessarily want to speak into any sort of narratives that are going on. So again, you speak about David sort of playing that mentor role. If he gets drawn into having more of a voice, even from an objective perspective, I don't know if people are going to like that. I mean, let's also say here, as far as we know, David is the host and host only. He is not, this is not a Jeff Probst executive producer showrunner thing. David's not taking over Australian Survivor. He is serving as the MC. So it's not like we're looking at David completely running the show from top to bottom. But even still, people might feel a certain way if he does speak up a lot and again, sort of become, you know, ubiquitous alongside the season

itself. Well, we have to see how it goes, honestly. Like, this is a season that we test that with Broomed returnees. And this is really going to show that. This is going to be his first season. This is like really like out of the frying pan into the fire and i'm these are all concerns for sure these are all question marks and like we'll i'm like i hate to just like fence it but like we will see how it goes and we're giving him that chance so good luck david that's the thing yeah i say all that as sort of as yeah as sort of like uh pain points but i feel like we need to give him a chance and maybe even like a season to warm up i mean even like JLP in his first season.

This might be a hot take. I was not a big fan of. There was one infamous moment. Boo, no, JLP forever. Yeah, but there was one infamous moment, right? We're like, there was one person that, I think it was Sue was visiting from the other tribe, and JLP's like, okay, so in the last tribal council, here's what happened. I think a lot of people would argue that, like, that didn't help Phoebe because he says,

like, Phoebe was able to pull this off. And so, again, there are growing pains that come with any host. Again, even Jeff Probst, Survivor Borneo is a relic in many ways, one of them being, okay, here's Jeff Probes with the talking shell that you have to hold on to. Like, there's a lot of stuff to get adjusted to, especially from David's perspective, having to go from a player to more of a host sort of on-the-fly producer role. I'm willing to give it a chance. I want to see what happens.

The dynamics going to be interesting, especially since, as you mentioned, there seem to be at least a few returnees that are teased for this in Survivor redemption, which feels oddly incomplete. I think it's because we're so used to Redemption Island that, or like the versus seasons that have basically been every single Australian Survivor's season theming since season three, that like, it's just odd to have a one word, you know, title after the colon here. It's also funny that it's not Redemption Island, right? Like, it's not the twist of Redemption Island. It's redemption. For all we know, yeah. My brother and I have been riffing on this joke and I thought it would take till January next year to be saying it, but we've been saying like the

really literal versions of the American themes like instead of Redemption Island it's like people or not actually the opposite of the literal like no literal yeah they need redemption it's not like an island that's fair I think that but then we were like you know David versus Elias like people named David who are against people who are really tall um winners at war people just winning at life like there are a lot of ways they can go like because they clearly just go to the American themes and are just like looking at words on that page yeah I'm surprised blood versus water wasn't like a bunch of vampires versus Olympic swimmers Yeah, exactly. I mean, we have a lot of Olympic swimmers. They could do a drive.

They could, and I'm surprised they haven't with all the Olympians and Olympic swimmers, Olympic swimmers won the game. Like, we, yeah, I'm surprised they haven't done that. Don't give them ideas. They will do that. They will do vampires versus Olympic swimmers. Well, we shall see what kind of blood will be drawn and spilled when we watch Australian Survivor, Colin Redemption coming to our screens in 2026, hosted by the denim clad David Janet. Shannon, any other things you want to mention from this news, any other stuff you want to talk about around, you know,

the official host transition being announced? No, I mean, we talked about it when JOP got fired, you know, we talked. There was no other name in contention. Like, there was no one who was ever said. It was very obviously, David. They did not get ahead of the news. And now we have it officially at this time in the middle of the most historic season of my career and of many people's lives,

inconveniently timed for a lot of us. But we're here doing this podcast, Mike. This is great. I have nothing else. Well, you have a lot going on in podcast form as, as you mentioned, you are elbow deep at this point into Australia and Survivor, Australia versus the world. Should be noted for very understandable reasons. No exit interview with David, I assume. Yeah. Yeah. They were like, they told me, they were like, no exit. I'm like, I don't know who it was. So I was like, please, no, I can do it at any point. in the season they're like this person is not available during the season i'm like please i'm so annoying i beg of you like who is it is it someone then when it was david i was like oh okay no that oh that's fine

i should email them and be like i get it um so yeah no exits with david other exits though and also recaps all the recaps one is coming out with mike later on chappelle and puya are out there'll be a show with rog i think that's it chizzy raffle we're doing a chizzy raffle enter the chizzy raffle It's in all the show notes of all the recaps, helping cats. You can take out chizzy points. What else? I don't know. Is that it?

Do I have more to plug? You should know. You're putting out like upwards of six or seven podcasts a week. So that is a lot. Yeah, well, this is well. So we know global survivor.com for all of that. It's an amazing season. If you just care about the news, but you're like not watching Australian Survivor,

sorry we spoiled you. It's fine. Like, just watch. Just watch it. It's so good. Like, it's so good. Yeah, I will say that even if you know that David is going in episode two, the events that lead up to it are wildly unpredictable, leading right up to the vote happening. So check it out.

It truly has started out of the gate as one of the best seasons in recent memory, if not one of the best returning seasons ever. So check that out. Check out the recaps to get plenty else going on from a reality TV perspective. And to the point where I did two reality flash podcasts at the end of last week, one of them being about the announcement of the amazing. base 38 coming this fall with all teams made up of at least one big brother alum along with a loved one i got together with terran armstrong to break that cast down on friday it was announced that uh or thursday i should say that the traders us will be releasing an all new season of only civilians no celebrities alongside the celebrity version as well so two traitor seasons in a year i got

together with puya to break that down so as we're sort of approaching the fall you know this news is coming off the trees like the leaves around us. So feel free to subscribe to this podcast. Make sure you don't miss a second of any stuff that might pop up on our news feeds. And of course, just tips at the reality flash.com to send me any news that you might see that has not come across my desk yet that you want me to cover. And of course, I get to talk with Shannon every single Tuesday, including this upcoming episode, episode three.

You will not want to miss it, including our. recap coverage. That's going to do it for this episode of The Reality Flash. Thank you all so much for listening. Shannon, thank you for hopping on. This was a very impromptu podcast. They were able to throw it together, so I hope everybody enjoyed it. And I always relish the chance to talk with you, doubly so, considering we got to do a back-to-back podcast. And I cannot wait to see what is to come of Australian Survivor following Australia versus the world. Again, it really feels like a new phase of the show. I don't know how that's going to translate to any of the elements that are going to be coming in, but we know that we will see

one brand new face, but familiar face, uh, rocking the denim as part of the hosting gig. And, uh, unlike maybe David himself in that get up, I am not sweating too much about it. But we shall see how it all comes to pass next year. Thank you all again. So much for listening, Shannon. Thank you. I'll be back in your eyes and ears soon with more reality TV news as it breaks. Until then, everybody.

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