RHAP: We Know Survivor - Brandon & Brando on Survivor B&B: S47 Ep 5

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

Mike and Liana are joined by Brandon Donlon and Brando Meyer for Episode 5!...

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Starting point is 00:01:30 You can stay for free. Hi, everybody, and welcome back to the RHAP B&B for week five of Survivor 47. My name is Mike Bloom, but today, in the spirit of the Survivor Social Hour, which I'll say, real ones know that the RJPBNB was the true OG Survivor Social Hour, right, Leona Boris? Oh, yeah, 100%. Come on, when we have more condiments, okay? Yeah, exactly. We may not have cornhole, but we have corny jokes, and we have holes. Peter Harky once told us that. corny jokes and we have holes peter harky once told us that so here we are but we decided take that b and double it baby because we've got a b and b and b and b happening in this podcast let me welcome in these two fine gentlemen as we wrap up the pre-merge of survivor 47 these are two standout guys from the pre-merge of Survivor 45. I call them the
Starting point is 00:02:27 brand winners. First off, it's Brandon Donlan. Brandon, how are you? Oh my God. What an intro. I am great. You know, I've been on a lot of podcasts this week. I was at the Rob is a Podcast live show. People think it's because I'm just, you know, so inspired by Annika. I want to talk about her game. It's not. I got a new haircut. I'm doing every avenue possible to show people that I got one. And I'm thrilled to be here now. I should be on YX Lost in about an hour and a half. You can check that out as well.
Starting point is 00:02:54 All right. Brandon is making the talk show circuit, basically. A lot of people like to promote things. Not a lot come on to just be like, here's my new look. I just want to show it off on as many talk shows as possible. But he is not alone. Making his B&b debut is brando brando meyer hello hello i'm also here actually to promote brandon donlon's uh new haircut it looks fantastic i mean look at the guy he looks beautiful and you know who'd want to miss a fifth boot episode so i'm very very happy to
Starting point is 00:03:22 to be here this is the solid pr team we need don't worry brandon we're gonna get your hair out there okay there we go branding for these two men uh brando i mean obviously you got to commemorate another fifth boot here were you triggered a little bit by the whole like not a swap mechanism considering uh the weird things that happened with yours last season or two years ago being the only swap uh in the new era uh is a little triggering for sure to see uh what went down but i really liked the the twist this week um so as much as it uh as a little bit of a pain i am very happy to see uh that they're going in a new direction i thought it was really cool yeah obviously this was one of the big takeaways was the brand new twist never before seen on survivor and it turns out to be a bit
Starting point is 00:04:10 of a mixer a bit of like a soft mergatory perhaps and uh maybe some details on what comes next perhaps because of the event that we had of course three of us got the chance to watch this in a big theater as well which i think really amped up the energy. So, Brando, I'm glad to hear that, like separate of that, because sometimes in the room, like even if things don't fly necessarily for people on the couch in the room, you just get infused with the energy. But I'm glad to hear you were like in the social hour. Liana, what about you? Well, I think it's interesting because I was under the assumption that, well, we're going to get to earn the merge next week. So this felt like a very bizarre thing to do. Because I was under the assumption that, well, we're going to get to earn the merge next week.
Starting point is 00:04:47 So this felt like a very bizarre thing to do. Although from what we've seen from some of the previews, that might not be the case where actually we are going into the merge. I think I don't know, Mike, you might not have a better sense. But I love the fact that this twist gave us some semblance of what the social interactions might look like once we do merge. And if we're not gonna have that in another capacity, then I'm happy that we got it here. Yeah, Brandon, what do you think about implementing this? Is this something they should move forward with in lieu maybe of the like specific facet of mergatory
Starting point is 00:05:20 of, okay, half of you are gonna be immune and go off for a merge fees? Well, regarding the the survivor social hour i think back to like survivor guatemala where danny had a birthday party you know a little bit before the merge and they just got the two tribes together to hang out there was no challenge component it was just a weird random thing that survivor hadn't done before i think since either i'd rather see that than have six go and have six not go just because like even if we're not merging right now the the dynamics that can happen to just a couple hours together and then you have to go into the
Starting point is 00:05:49 tribal cycle again for one two more rounds i think that lends itself to more interesting play than just having the six and six because whatever the mechanism is with six and six we have seen it before so i like that or seven and seven rather i guess with with annika's position but i like a a new thing and this was a new thing that was super fun, but I think there's further optimization on a new thing that we just, on the old thing that can make it a little bit more fun. I think there is something weird about the idea
Starting point is 00:06:14 that you can go and sort of start your merge journey, but then you still have to go back to your original tribe. And we saw this pay off with Tiana and Gabe where Tiana starts to do, you know, the thing you do in Merge, where you're willing to give up a member of your tribe to show that, hey, I want to move forward and work with other people. I'm not just, you know, too strong. But then you have to go back to just Gabe and then you have to potentially go to Tribal Council. Now, ultimately, I didn't see it happen, but that could be a huge detriment to your game. So it's almost presented as, as hey here's an opportunity to
Starting point is 00:06:45 forge bonds but don't screw it up because if you do end up going back to tribal council this could really mess with your game yeah i mean you could even argue at least annika did to me that this was something that also potentially led to her blind side is because like when they do a little bit of like uh the catch-ups and they're like oh yeah sam you and sierra are a thing right it's like wow what did annika say about us at the journey and even though at least from our perspective it was more so that they were presenting the information rather than her i could certainly see them take it as a sign of like oh if she did not go to bat to deny any of these allegations that we were close then that means that maybe she's not looking out for us yeah absolutely i do think that you know if you do have i think back to also not to just keep referencing old seasons but i think to like thailand also where they pair off one person
Starting point is 00:07:35 from each tribe during the fake merge where they think they're getting insight from each other if you have more people here and you're in smaller groups it does lend itself well for maybe a position that would have saved annika also if annika is in one group you know you know outing sam and sierra for that thing but in every other group everybody's keeping it quiet i mean granted that doesn't work well for annika but or vice versa everybody's keeping it very loud and annika is the one keeping it quiet you see it you see a couple different variations so i think either way it was super fun i do regarding the survivor social hour i do think
Starting point is 00:08:05 you know having to like win and then go get your dry hot dog and then play another challenge via cornhole the last thing that i would want if i won a reward challenge is another game that i have to not just sit around and eat um but hey they liked it they seem to really take the cornhole i love cornhole at a brewery at a restaurant i don't need it when i won something to like i just did the challenge come on right that's the thing it's like hey i need calories in my body and i don't want to expend them until the next time that i have to don't make me even get up and walk and throw these beanbags around i mean i i kudos to them for committing like the art direction on the banner same magnifique i feel like i'm in myrtle beach
Starting point is 00:08:46 it's really giving you know it's giving the myrtle beach motif um which is you know when you're on survivor in fiji the only place you want to be is myrtle beach you want to close your eyes and just transport yourself back to that nice place um so i love i think it's fantastic i was well i was expecting the ron john surf shop to show as well. I love the generic soda labels, but the cornhole was an interesting choice because you say, Oh, a lack of food, corn,
Starting point is 00:09:11 whole bean bags. It's very food themed. Okay. Should they, I know that Rob said on the live show that like, they should have cut open the bean bags to find advantages. I say, cut open the bean bags,
Starting point is 00:09:24 pocket the beans yes and there's no jeff there to stop you how old how old do we think those beans are right because those have probably been sitting in the art department for months you know they're getting rained on yeah that's true yeah it's not it's not newly made like the banner these are the beanbags they probably have used in like every challenge since moving to fiji nearly 10 years old yeah jp hilsebeck was flinging those yeah exactly like well it smells like him they're about to start sprouting oh my god well what we saw sprout over the course of this episode was a good old-fashioned blindside but a reaction for the ages uh i mean again brando fellow fifth boot uh you know you're you're
Starting point is 00:10:06 nearly at mergatory you feel like you just have to make it through the next stage of the game could you put yourself in anika's footsteps as she stood there and didn't make any footsteps just gawking at what was happening it's it's absolutely brutal i loved how long of a pause like almost no music that they gave us. I think it was, was it over a minute? I went back to check it before this podcast. But it was, it was a long time where she was just standing there. And it's like the raw feeling of almost being there. And you know, I'm sure with the two tribe challenge, she thought that she had made it at least a little bit further than she did. It's, it's, it's hard to have that taken away when you're when you're not expecting it for sure so i'm not surprised by
Starting point is 00:10:47 her her raw reaction as somebody who does you know love survivor history i do think this is a very interesting example of a blind side you know you see the kelly blind side and the kelly blind side is shot like a murder mystery where it's out of nowhere right to everybody and you see like the mckayla bradshaw you know blind side that is not that it is very it's a surprise and then she has an explosive reaction so i i think that you have we haven't seen something that's like this in quite some time although annika you know wasn't that big of a surprise just with with weeks past you either think it's andy or it's annika i mean that's what the show is setting up for but i can't remember an example that is just so you know one person is super super blindsided and then everybody else around her is is you know has clues even the audience we have
Starting point is 00:11:35 clues that it's going to be her or andy right and even leading up the tribal council you see andy wheeling and dealing you're like oh no this might be this might be annika and then when it happens you know it is a really really interesting um vantage point that we don't often get with the survivor blindside you know it's not often that it's just solely one person that's blindsided um and especially not having that that huge of a reaction i must say too not that you know i noticed the challenges i watched the challenges you know finally tooth comb just having after having been there but you know annika you know aced the puzzle and every challenge they had annika sat out of the challenge puzzles not completed in time so i wonder you know it's a thought it's a thought that you know did she she was the the squeaky wheel that you know
Starting point is 00:12:15 or she was the really good wheel she wasn't yeah squeaky wheel she was the you wouldn't believe how little this wheel squeaked with annika she I know. She would have been in there. Really well oiled. She's a really well- Well, that's the problem is that they needed Andy to saw. And like, that's really the sliding doors universe where if Anika is able to dry hump the saw, maybe they win the challenge. Yeah. No other industries like this, is it? No other television show
Starting point is 00:12:40 do you get to throw lines like that out there. And I admire that. Yeah, Andy's doing incredible PR for people who are bad at challenges you know people are you know people are all in on andy you know and we needed that our our industry needed that very bad so shout out to andy for for helping us out a bit he's helping our seo dramatically i think i mean i'm intrigued to see like will he be able to both make a deep enough run of the game to have multiple iconic instances of this where he could eclipse crystal cox as like one of the most noticeable bad challenge performers because she was able to benefit from the fact that she made it to the
Starting point is 00:13:17 penultimate episode and so we got to see multiple instances of it you know with andy this was obviously the most flagrant and comical example i would say of it but now with him making it to the murder and at least for me like looking at his edit stands to probably make a pretty deep cut into the game there is so much more potential to see what exactly this man is going to do in your most favorite iconic survivor challenges i like to live in a world where he could just be hustling us right now, right? Like I was talking to Austin during the last episode and he was saying if he was playing Cornhole, he'd be sandbagging, right? He'd be throwing way to the left, way to the right.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You don't want people to think that you're good at those challenges. What if Andy is a sleeper agent, right? He's going to unlock his mic from season 30, blow through all of the individual immunity challenges. lock his his mic from season 30 blow through all of the individual immunity challenges set the record most wins for individual immunity is i i would absolutely love that but i mean the other thing too to keep in mind is that the group challenges the team challenges are all about moving whereas the individual immunity challenges are all about not moving and maybe that will work out in his favor because he just has to balance his stand there
Starting point is 00:14:26 instead of saw a bunch of stuff. Yeah, but then someone's going to ask Andy when they're bored, how are you doing? And then he's going to go into another monologue and lose his concentration. That's where the sleeper agent comes in, Mike. That's true. Jeff has to say the very specific phrase
Starting point is 00:14:38 like with the idols to unlock that agent cell with him. And then he just goes full Terminator. Which granted, the phrase last time was just, how are you? So I can imagine that the phrase is going to be super complicated. He's not going to pick up on it. When we were at the live show the other day, I was sitting in front of Tiffany Sealy, who raised the question when we were all, you know, chattering about Rome really boning that puzzle.
Starting point is 00:15:01 You know, only had the one piece. And the chatter there, the chatter there the chatter online is did Rome throw it and Tiffany said and I'm taking her quote but it applies to your boy also is like when I was bad at the challenge nobody assumed that I threw it you know what I mean you have to throw it I guess so bad you have to be so, so bad at it that people think you throw it. Tiffany on the balance beam could have been a throw. I wasn't, I really, really, it's crazy how badly I wanted to not be in this position.
Starting point is 00:15:35 But, you know, I think it's an interesting point where, you know, Rome is so, so, you know, one, like four pieces looks infinitely better and less throwy than one, no pieces, one piece. But listen, he didn't throw. He claims he didn't throw. pieces looks infinitely better and less throwy than one no pieces one piece um but listen he didn't throw he claims he didn't throw i just don't know why he would at that point like usually we see people throw it when like they feel like they have a lockdown on the numbers and maybe rome was very cocksure about where he was but you know the tribes are already even it just seems like for me it makes more sense from
Starting point is 00:16:05 a narrative perspective like that this is a guy who claims he can do everything that insists of being put at the end of every challenge and just like absolutely face plants because again i will say like rome would let you know if he threw the challenge he would let everybody know he would stand on that mat as soon as the challenge finished. And Jeff would say, Rome, how are you? He's like, well, I'm feeling pretty good after I threw the challenge. So like, if anything, he would want to almost lie about it. Be like, no, I wasn't that bad on the puzzle.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I actually threw it. He's actually doing the opposite here. Mm hmm. I mean, then we get another Genevieve comment about Rome's been very naughty, which I know we didn't spend a lot of time with Lavo in this episode, but it was really fun to see some of the blowout and especially the the consequences of losing the reward. The split reward challenge was also very interesting because there's a reaction from Rome that obviously a lot of them didn't expect to happen as teeny is the only one who gets to go on the reward. So that was also very cool to see that being set up. I mean, ultimately, we don't see the payoff in this episode, but I assume that this is going to come back at some point later. Yeah, yeah. I would imagine that's the case. I mean, we are in for an incredibly messy individual game, you know know between the journeys and
Starting point is 00:17:26 now this thing last time we have some bonds that are being made so this is what i alluded to ahead of time i will just say that this is going to be a little bit of speculation about next episode if you don't want to uh remain remain in the dark not a shot in the dark to now for the next like two minutes or so but basically what the scuttlebutt has been online from sort of parsing out what promos have been doing is that it seems like we're doing individual immunity it's back up for grabs and so i think jeff even says in one promo like one will be safe 12 will not so it looks like now we make it some sort of like team phase of a challenge it might be sort of like uh like the survivor 43 or 45 challenge where like you run it in two teams and then whichever
Starting point is 00:18:11 team wins moves on to the next stage uh but whether or not they're quote-unquote earning the merge we're at least not going to only allow half of the group to be vulnerable which i think brando will be very interesting because i think a lot of these people that would otherwise be protected from like happening to get thrown into the right group are suddenly out in the open now right no i agree 100 we love when they mix it up right people have talked about how the new era with no like themes just the you know the season numbers gets kind of repetitive um and so i'm i'm very curious to see uh what they have in store for for earn the merge quote unquote this time well i that's the other
Starting point is 00:18:50 thing is that having everybody as an option is just so much more fun because we write the fan fictions in our heads about well what's going to happen when everybody comes together and you want to be able to see the full realm of possibilities play out and to immediately say okay well half of you are off the table we're going hopefully again i'm hoping that this is the case is that it is just one person who's safe then everybody else is on the table which i think is going to make the scramble just so much more fun i mean talk about eggs we got a scramble coming up baby oh man do you think they're going to bring the eggs to the merge beach those eggs will keep right okay well they'll they will never get their flint back right assuming that so like they'll
Starting point is 00:19:31 have to because otherwise what do they do they just have a bunch of raw eggs they either eat the raw eggs before they throw them at people they don't like today tribal council should have brought them to tribal it is mischief night after all i think so like honestly if i had an inkling that i was going i would put some eggs in my pocket and if i were getting voted out i would just start hucking eggs at people or you pull a sabaya you take them to tribal you crack them on the fire oh cook them up while you're all yeah make a nice omelet while everyone's yapping can you eat a raw egg can you just oh i know rocky balboa did it i think yeah i think the issue is the egg shell i think you're fine with the actual this is not medical advice i'm not a nutritionist i think the inside of the egg is okay is it not well i think the issue is like salmonella poisoning
Starting point is 00:20:23 right so for food poisoning in some capacity and i i would imagine that the actual egg could could be um but the the shell is probably more likely to be covered in bacteria so that would be the cause so you know but i mean you know a little bit of bacteria salmonella that's you know big egg is trying to keep you from or trying you know growing salmonella well i think uh lava suffering from salmonella that's you know big egg is trying to keep you from some or trying you know growing salmonella i think uh lava suffering from salmonella i was gonna count how many puns brando did and you beat him to number one that's never been a handful of puns already a basket worth if you know that didn't that didn't
Starting point is 00:21:04 work basket worth of puns that didn't work what do we think about the deal here was like some people are saying jeff was too soft some were saying like oh that was too low of a number to go for was either side the the loser here well did just a quick clarification question before we talk about logistics did jeff say that the eggs will hatch chickens i swear i don't think he meant hatch but he did definitely say hatch okay i don't think he meant that either because i'm pretty sure those are unfertilized and those are not going to become chickens okay great i just wanted to put that out there yeah richard on the mind yeah you're good don't we all i was gonna say i thought it was a really interesting
Starting point is 00:21:43 move to swap the chickens for the eggs long term. Right. Because if you're on a tribe who won this reward, you're not planning on eating the chickens. You're kind of screwing over. Let's say you get voted out right when the merge starts. Right. You now have this resource that the other tribes can't take advantage of that you earn. So I think that was a really interesting move. I don't know if that's what they intended to do. But as far as like the longevity of the reward, I thought that was a really interesting move. I don't know if that's what they intended to do, but as far as like the longevity of the reward, I thought that was interesting. Yeah, I mean, it is interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Like this is the first instance, I think, that we have specifically themed reward trades. Like we saw in San Juan del Sor, it was, hey, we want to trade in our extra flint for fishing gear. This was specifically, hey, we want the second place prize instead of the first place prize which was linked to eggs but it's just such i'd also given the life cycle of a chicken as well felt i don't know very philosophical did i miss in exit press who or what was keeping the god of tribe from killing the chicken i i don't know who that was i know annika i think i saw a clip of her saying that she would
Starting point is 00:22:42 have liked to have killed i think it was probably sierra i mean listen sierra was holding a lot of power and she's like no i went to a winery with a chicken once please i have an emotional attachment to it i can't drink merlot again if you kill one of these things i do think i mean it's it obviously like i would not kill a chick i would i would i'm in on the chicken being killed. I do not want to physically, I would Marley and me the chicken, if that was an option where we could euthanize it or something, you know, we can, we can have nice music playing. I don't want to just like do it. That takes a strong will, but James Clement,
Starting point is 00:23:16 if you have James Clement there, he can kill the chicken. But I do think that 18 eggs does seem high. It seems like it, you know, maybe like, I like i mean and again i want all my friends to have food and these people are are fantastic like one in one in like six eggs like one egg for each person i don't know um but 18 i guess i mean jeff put out the math 18 makes sense but i'm not you know that's his prerogative i wonder if they did it calorie based it was okay well this is the equivalent in calories to a chicken is six eggs so you get an equal amount of calories i'm more questioning why they felt the need to stick to eggs as what they were going to barter that's what i'm saying yeah
Starting point is 00:23:58 like you don't need to go back yeah something you don't have to cook maybe exactly yes oh my god that's so great. Yeah, exactly. Instead of an eggs, we get an egg salad sandwich, you know? So something that you can sort of immediately consume, especially you have an inkling that you're going to end up merging soon. So I would imagine, okay, let's get something, resources for us that we can consume quickly. Yeah, so that's what I'm intrigued by as well,
Starting point is 00:24:23 especially if they are going to bring eggs to the next stage which is like yes it is god is eggs but are we going to be dealing with like for lack of better term eggticket of like people starting to take eggs and eat them from other tribes and could that cause some skirmishes like a sandra-esque somebody eats all the eggs blames it on somebody else yeah i'm gonna edit that rome's gonna eats all the eggs, blames it on somebody else. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to edit that. Rome's going to eat all the eggs, and then who's Rome going to blame it on?
Starting point is 00:24:49 Rome is immediately going for the eggs. There's no scenario where it's not Rome going for the eggs. I'm curious of who he says. Or he might not even say anybody else. He might just say, hey, we're all together. One thing's for sure. They're going to scramble. Yep, that's
Starting point is 00:25:05 what i'm saying there we go it will not go over easy certainly not uh but i i could see like if i'm rome i know i would say like i'm not gonna eat all the eggs at once maybe like bury them like a sea turtle like yeah like a sea turtle they're gonna hatch and then the chickens are gonna crawl into the ocean. Well, hope not. Oh, wait, who is it? Was it what season was it where they found the turtles? That was that was 40 and 41. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:32 The little sea turtles represented them. That was so cute. The sea. Maybe they should have asked for sea turtle eggs. Oh, my God. That would have felt so good. There's a scene in in the Adam Sandler movie, Big Daddy, where Adam Sandler is bringing the child to go trick or treat
Starting point is 00:25:50 and the guy doesn't have anything. And he like shushes them away. So Adam Sandler breaks into the house and is like, what do you have? Like, give us what you need. And the guy's putting CDs in the bag. I think he takes off his watch. That's what the shakedown should have been for the God of Tribe.
Starting point is 00:26:03 It's like, we're going to give you this, but like, what else is here? What else is it within a 15 foot radius from where you're standing that we can just, you know, we'll take anything. Well, I think the negotiation you have to start. Okay. Obviously I understand you start high. Okay. No expert negotiation, but like you start high, but if you start too high, does Jeff just laugh you out the door right so if they had gone for oh we want you know a new car and blah blah blah blah blah right and jeff's just gonna be like get out of here here's that you know something i don't know jeff could we get a truck can we bring back yeah so that that way we could just you know just like take the car
Starting point is 00:26:42 to the immunity challenge or use the car in the immunity challenge. Oh, well, yeah. I've talked about this previously about like what would happen if a car was a contestant. There's no rules against it. You've talked about that previously? I have. I talked about it.
Starting point is 00:26:55 It's like a Cars universe. Yeah, in Survivor South Africa, they edited their car sponsor into like shots from the show. And so I thought, what would happen if a car was a contestant? I think there are benefits and drawbacks to it. I like, I can picture the car in a medical situation and Dr.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Judge is running over with like a big red tank of gas and like, put it in really quick. Cause the car was too exhausted. Liana we're sucking at the punch. Although you had the first scramble. So I think I'm sucking at the punch. I ran out of gas already. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Would Dr. Joe have to wear like a mechanic's jumpsuit and come in and just be like, all right, well, didn't expect that by doing this. Here we go. You know, with all of the folks that have been on Survivor 700 plus and they used to, you know, dress more to like what you do in everyday life. No mechanic jumpsuits. You'd think we'd have a mechanic jumpsuit by now.'ve got nothing more jumpsuits more jumpsuits more jumpsuits more jumps any kind of jumpsuit would you want to wear a jumpsuit i was gonna say because if your top half or your bottom half gets wet then you lose everything right if it's all connected so do you make it a two-piece do you immediately like take the hatchet to it and cut it into two pieces also the the
Starting point is 00:28:05 breakaway pants have never made it and yes zip off cargos also what's that we've had people cut off their pants we've have we had zip off cargos i don't think zip off car i think the only one i could think of yes it was chad right because wasn't that chad's big reveal in vanuatu was he had the little like zip off pants that he zipped off the bottom half of his pants to reveal he was an amputee. That he did. He said, you guys think I made it here pretty good, right? And everybody's like, yeah, you did.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And then boom, reveal. But imagine if he had tearaway pants. Imagine that reveal. I mean. Yeah, not enough of that. That's what they should have negotiated for. Who needs food? You can get tearaway pants. away honestly they should negotiate for like clothes jeff can i have your shoes yeah
Starting point is 00:28:50 jeff can i have your shoes hats sunglasses oh i would die for a pair of sunglasses out there i mean you never know until you ask i also was thinking could they have bartered with the other tribes? Could they have been like, hey, you give us, how many eggs have you eaten? Can we have them if we give you a chicken? Yeah. Can we take Saul, if possible? Can we give these chickens?
Starting point is 00:29:15 How many chickens is Saul worth? Well, you're trading food for another mouth to feed, so it's kind of balanced. Right? I think it works. It's true. Oh, no. I would take Saul. If I had my pick from
Starting point is 00:29:25 anybody from the other tribes i would take saul yeah i mean you have to he's like reasonable calm strong i mean you definitely would want him he says when things go wrong yeah lights lights up like the sun the fart was interesting the new era a big big fart era for survival there's been a couple fart scenes in the new era i big big fart era for survival there's been a couple fart scenes in the new era i mean i don't know if we call saul saying fart a fart scene but you know danny famously farts in that one challenge famously doing a lot of heavy work in defense but he does well i guess you remember that not me other people are talking about it not me yeah not me yeah brady doesn't have a spreadsheet full of
Starting point is 00:30:06 every part i'm just i have to close the tab hold on one second i wonder i wonder if like maybe you know soul's a relatively new guy to the show maybe he like very much low balls the age rating for survivors he's like i can't swear on the show so let me come up with all these other curses yeah that's a good that's a good uh, listen, you get camera time. You throw a fart out there. You get camera time. Shout out to Andy. I mean, well, shout out to Andy.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Speaking of the like intense moments, Andy's voting confessional. I mean, Mike, you've talked about voting confessional before. And this was one, I think what I've been, I've been burying you for the past 10 days here's your headstone or something like that it was such good television it was amazing i don't know where this andy has been but this was felt i mean he's obviously been a focus for a lot of the episodes but this really felt like a breakout in a different direction for him because we see him talking about this is my fake plan i put this fake plan in place and then to end everything with that final headstone moment i
Starting point is 00:31:10 really really enjoyed from him it was almost like he just got this second life out there yeah i mean i guess it's maybe because the action on gada has not really been focused on like this andy anika rivalry i mean i guess like you know even though andy does vote out john he was brought in on john's last minute plan to vote out annika so i guess it like has been something but yeah it was a little full like steve moses becky from big brother 17 and that like andy comes in and be like i hate her guts i need to see her head roll it's like where did this come from dude i would have loved if he gave that voted voting confessional and then got voted out himself and they still showed it i think that was a really
Starting point is 00:31:50 good tv i wish they would have shown mine i held up my my drew frowny face and i said looks like you drew the short end of the stick oh come on they should have aired it anyway yeah that's amazing like you gotta don't you gotta leave money on the They should have aired it anyway. That's amazing. You gotta leave money on the table. You have 90 minutes. Show those voting confessionals. Yeah, Anika changed the game for folks who didn't have a vote after holding up the thing.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Because I had no vote and I walked up to the thing. I saw it and then I just talked to the camera, much as I'm doing now. But actually holding it, I think that's how you get that on TV, is holding up the thing that says you can can't vote i regretted not looking for the pen because i would have liked to have just i never got to use the pen i would have liked to have just the pen was so cool yeah the pen that was really cool it's a cool pet it's interesting because like there's also a bit of a meta evolution too because i was there for the first tribal council of 39 where elizabeth basil
Starting point is 00:32:42 did not have a vote and she had to physically write down no vote on her piece of paper there was no placard that said like yep it's disregarded she had to legitimately write it down so that like i don't know i don't remember if jeff pulled out something that said no vote or if it's just like oh yeah i forgot i guess we have to throw it away but it was such an odd thing compared to the uh relatively railroaded way they do things now and there's something to be said for like taking time in the voting booth, because I remember that I went up there. I said to the I was like, you know, mom and dad didn't go great. I love you. And then I walked out. But there is something to be said for like staying there for like a couple extra minutes.
Starting point is 00:33:18 They're not going to tell you to go down, you know, and then everybody else is voting, thinks that you may have something. Even if they've already all voted, it is nice to like scare them for a couple of minutes. I think that's like, that's funny to go out the door, like having them worry if you had something, at least for the 20 minutes it takes until you're voted out. Could you just be up there working on your tie five? You're like, look, I'm going to take advantage of this. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I have a camera fixed on me, baby. We're going through my jokes. I could have done all the second boots up there. I don't know why. Or that's when you just smear your eggs all over the voting booths the next person that asked about was like what the hell yeah that's a new evolution is like i mean obviously this isn't allowed but like for conjecture is writing something somewhere else like you can do like graffiti on the table or something you know nobody's doing graffiti on the table oh that's amazing i i really love that idea
Starting point is 00:34:03 i also to go back to the the eggs can you actually take supplies with you because we see people obviously get voted out with idols or clothes or whatever but could you just like take the fishing gear and just like hold it while you're sitting there and then be like you guys vote me out like i'm taking the fishing gear with me i think you could take whatever you wanted i don't think they would stop you okay you know i wasn't there but i do know that when sabaya was voted out she did have a machete in her bag and then there was a angelina-esque moment asking for the machete back and i don't recall i should i've heard this story now many times i should know this but i think that she gave it back i don't remember or she might have walked over there and then
Starting point is 00:34:41 they got another one but that is something that has happened that's what you do with the eggs yeah well i think that's the thing is like then do you have to relegate somebody to like watch over the fishing gear so it doesn't get taken by somebody else because it is a good question of like big wendy took the flint and sat on the flint what's to say that you can't do that with any other thing at camp as long as it's not personal property oh that's why jeff takes the flint so you can't steal it and we thought it was like a punishment but it was actually a benefit it was like i mean sorry for you but also like you know sorry for you he's doing loss prevention like they have you walk out with the flint a die bag explodes in your face yeah they're gonna put put those things on every side of the path that you walk out of tribal council that's really what that that arch is when you walk out of tribal council just one big
Starting point is 00:35:38 security scanner yeah you know i people and i'm'm going to pivot hard, but people talk badly about the, the abandoned season 41 idea with Rick Devins working like the store. You know, they, there was, that was supposed to be a thing of Rick Devins works the store with advantages and stuff. I think that's the coolest thing in the world. And I hope that it's, if, if Rick Devins himself is not on eventual season 50, I hope the store is there. If they're taking applications, I would like to potentially work at the store is there if they're taking applications i would like to potentially work at the store i do think that you know you could build in so many fun little like easter egg mechanics like the the little buzzer things when you walk out when you're stealing i think there's so much opportunity to make the survivor store and listen if you're listening to this and you hate this idea and they end up doing it don't tag me don't i don't want to hear about it tag brando he's here tag anybody you know i mean i i would
Starting point is 00:36:25 love if they like staffed the survivor shop of a bunch of alumni to just be there like it's an actual convenience store like the sanctuary that you go to habitually they would make me be like the overwhelmed stock boy who's like putting in cans and i'm fucking sweating you know i can i can really picture that that's it brandon what would you do in the store what would be they'd have me doing math in the background i'm sure you're balancing the books i'm balancing the books yeah i'm adding up jeff if you're giving away 18 eggs you're putting us in the red i pull like an abacus yeah oh that's so great what's that i think it would be fun i mean listen like they've already uh
Starting point is 00:37:10 gone above and beyond doing like the the printouts of the banner i think they could aesthetically decorate an entire convenience store to set up at some part of the island yeah what would the name be is there a good name that i'm like i feel like i'm floating like the the jeffy mart or something jeffy mart jeffy mart i like the jeffy mart jeffy mart's good maybe that's it meeting adjourned we got it we did it we can all go home all right well let us get into our usual thoroughfare here on the b&b and let us go back to the woman of the hour and a half let's talk about annika here uh because annika it was it was a big five episodes i would say that ended with a big finish liana you and i have been in lockstep this entire time you and i have both thought that survivor 47 would go a very
Starting point is 00:37:58 particular way yeah see if we can make it five for five how did you think that annika was gonna do preseason yeah this one was brutal for me in terms of the predictions i had her making the finale so this puts a really big wrinkle into everything so this might be the place where we deviate i said that despite being a project manager annika plays a solid under the radar game after a rocky start of losing her vote at the first journey of the season, which takes away any agency she has pre-jury. She forms tight bonds with Sam and come the merge, Teenie. However, her once close alliance falls apart when Teenie convinces Annika to betray Sam, citing him as a massive individual immunity beast. betray sam citing him as a massive individual immunity beast with sam on the jury he counter claims all of annika's moves in the final tribal council as a result she only receives one vote to
Starting point is 00:38:53 win her ally and her enemy were both sam so there's a universe where this happens interesting so you had her then come not to to like pronunciate too much. You had her losing, but was she like a, was it like a, what, 6-1-1 vote in the end or 5-2-1? I don't remember,
Starting point is 00:39:12 but she got, I'd have to go back and look at my other predictions, but she got one vote and I also specified specifically it was from Sue. So, you know, not that that counts.
Starting point is 00:39:21 All right, there we go. Okay, well, to your point, Liana, this is where I leave you uh and this is where i left annika in the pre-jury uh i said that true to her own pre-season prediction any intention that annika had to not take charge goes out the window she almost immediately steps up to get gotta good uh with john immediately gravitating to the gotta gals they quickly
Starting point is 00:39:45 form a majority alliance and her eyes are set on sam who she never quite trusted from all of his ponderosa journalings annika is sent off on a journey and unfortunately loses her vote uh she comes back and tells the truth to her tribe but john begins to get paranoid after seeing her behavior after her return as a result the men and sierra turn on annika and rachel and we get to see annika's self-proclaimed expressiveness in the wake of her blind side and i said her closest ally would be rachel and her enemies would be john and sam so she was the first boot from gotta for you she was yeah interesting okay well well i mean it's a little bit of a done deal not exactly a competition here i like that we both had her losing her vote i guess we just felt like yep
Starting point is 00:40:34 she's gonna lose her vote i don't know why i mean to be fair like brandon could speak to this like the vast majority of time you do lose your vote when you go on a journey. So you do that, you know, people complaining about the game of chance. I had to do it. I would have loved to give it to him. It would have been better for your boy. I do think regarding Anika, you know, Anika has every skill to like do really well and to win survivor. And it just, you know, as are, you know, they don't cast people who they think will lose or go out, you know, in a specific fashion, like they cast everybody with the intent to win and they cast some people
Starting point is 00:41:07 with the, not hope to win by any means, but they cast everybody with the intent to win. They cast five or six people knowing they could very well win. And Anika is one of those people. Anika is one of those people on any season that she's on. And sometimes those people go far, sometimes they win. And sometimes they're out around where she's out, but it's a testament to her. I mean, Jeff said it on the on fire podcast,
Starting point is 00:41:24 you know, she has, you know, every skill and more to be able to really deliver at survivor and you know this time it didn't work out but in a world where they do like a all pre-jury season or a you know return of the outcast in south africa had half pre-jury half everybody else like she could she could really really in another world make a big run at this thing and this is a loss for all of us because you know i read all the online chatter people really enjoyed her confessionals um as well as just seeing her navigate the game so um it's a loss and you know these it'd be the season's gonna be great but i do think that you know we're gonna we're gonna miss uh we're gonna miss this one for sure yeah i think uh i loved the the personality that she brought i think she very
Starting point is 00:42:01 much not to say like she surprised me that i thought she'd be a particular way but like i loved how much she was herself from the beginning whether it was also like her tension with sam whether it was her saying that andy was giving toxic clingy boyfriend like it was and of course with that exit like i think she was a very fun personality brando is there a chance that like all of you bay area pre-mergers can just do an LRG one day because there's so many of you accumulating. And we're all Asian for some reason, which is crazy. We should, yeah, I'll try to get that going. That'd be a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:42:35 The Asian pre-merge Bay Area, California LRG. My winner pick is Jessica Chong. I want to see Jessica Chong to surviveong to survivor it's so bad i think it'll be so much better yeah i think she'll be very well rested by comparison i think it'll be okay i really i'm hoping for it but yeah we you know it's a good group and this this pre-jury so far not to talk poorly or in any way about any other pre-jury but this is like you're getting like whether it's blind set after blind set whatever but you're also getting you know people in in another world that can do super super well so i do think that's the same amongst most seasons
Starting point is 00:43:08 but this one in particular i think you're getting that you're getting a really talented premiere this one's definitely it's top seven for me for sure yeah well i want to ask about that because i put out there oh yeah of course thanks brando uh that uh very very abacus of you that uh i thought that this might be the best pre-merge of the new era. I would put this up against, for me, 42. I really enjoyed 45 as well. I certainly made my opinions known at the moment that I don't really care necessarily about quits. It doesn't ruin my enjoyment of the show that much.
Starting point is 00:43:37 But I think for me, to your point, there's just so much contained in here. There is some wild gameplay. We have gotten some pretty interesting power shifts over the course of only five votes. It helps that everyone has gone to tribal council at least once. There are a couple things like, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:54 the journey where Annika was basically forced to give up her vote wasn't great. The summit was like, the social hour was fine. But I think, you know, we're continuing on from this trend of 46 of just like pure mess and conflict. And that's very exciting to see. And it also being supported with some very interesting gameplay
Starting point is 00:44:11 made for a very, very solid pre-merge in my opinion. And I personally think the best we've seen since the show came back. I'm not exactly sure in my rankings where it would go. I'd really have to think about it. But one of the takeaways that I've had from this season so far is I'm really invested in every single tribe. And I don't know if that's a consequence of that. We've seen it spread out, right?
Starting point is 00:44:34 The first three tribal councils, three different tribes went. We, of course, saw Lavo go back and got to go back. But it was just nice to have that spread out a little bit more. back but it was just nice to have that spread out a little bit more so maybe it's the editors are having to spend more time actually building storylines on each tribe because everybody does go to tribal so maybe it's something along those lines but i do there isn't a tribe where i'm like okay i don't really care if they go to tribal every single tribe i'm like i care if they go to tribal i want to know what happens yeah certainly i think too, that having each, you know, tribe go to tribal council lets you, I mean, saving the obvious here, but you get to have a personal
Starting point is 00:45:10 relationship with each person. Whereas like just contrasting with 45, I do think that we spent so much time with my team that it's like, you, you, you lose, you know, the relationships that you have with people on the other two tribes and survive 45, they're the folks that end up going far or have a super fun or exciting run, as opposed to this one where it kind of just feels wide open because not that the edit in 45 was not equal, but I mean, sure, but also I think that here, it feels very much like an even playing field,
Starting point is 00:45:39 whereas the folks that got voted out of Survive 47 feel completed in a weird way. Like you feel like satisfied each time because you're spending so much time with them as opposed to maybe, you know, it's one, two, three from the same tribe. And then, you know, other other tribes. Yeah, I agree with that. Like even Brando, like you had your sort of like flash in, you know, I think it was episode two with being in the middle. But then like you kind of fade into the background for those other two. And it does feel like, you know, people sort of dip out we talked about jill uh genevieve obviously like really coming to the forefront last episode but this does feel like one of those seasons where we have both
Starting point is 00:46:11 a handle on who each person is as well as seemingly what their standing is in the game as well which is again like a perfect formula i'm really intrigued by all of the caroline content we got at the um social hour because i feel like we're getting a lot of both cross tribe and her like interpersonal relationship with sue um and so i'm curious to see how that's going to go since they've only been to tribal you know the the one time yeah so i'm really curious to see why they're putting so much time into that uh sort of position specifically well and i also to add on top of that it when you go we go back to tuku and then it's the story is really about sue gabe tiana so why is caroline being sort of i don't want to say like pigeonholed in there but it feels like okay but we're getting this from caroline's perspective about her saying
Starting point is 00:47:05 i'm the mother hen i'm trying to corral which is funny given the fact that they gave up the chickens mrs peppers could never so she is like trying to corral the rest of tuku she's like oh i'm the one who needs to get uh tiana to apologize i'm the one who wants us to all move forward together so there does feel like a lot from her perspective which is very interesting to me which says okay something's gonna to happen. Obviously, in Merge is a reason why we're being shown this. So is it just have to do with the Tuku dynamics or because, as Brando mentioned, we're seeing other relationships from the other tribes? OK, is she the orchestrator? You know, is she going to be the one to really, again,
Starting point is 00:47:39 corral the chickens and bring everybody together, maybe for the first vote? That intrigues me and actually gives me something interesting about Caroline, which we hadn't seen a ton of before so there is something interesting for each person that i'm very curious to see what happens moving forward yeah well especially because also now we have like we've had a couple of opportunities for cross-tribal stuff and it seems like someone like caroline did take the bait and was like hey let's work on something also helps that rachel is like well my closest ally just got voted out and i was left out of the vote by my tribe hello let's all work together so as much as caroline i think is going to try to push like hey five is a plurality let's move forward together i think this will luckily
Starting point is 00:48:20 open up some some very fun exciting greener pastures where we're we might be dealing more with like okay here all these you know duos and trios just working together mishmash as opposed to okay this is a big chunk that's going to work together a la the re before for a long time and then eventually split apart when you know the chips are down yeah yeah totally i you know caroline is my winner oh i mean again maybe this is in my head because i want it to be true so bad but like if you look at the scenes of the two good tribe like strategizing caroline is like always around like like she's always like present in the scene whether she's in the conversation or not she's there um and i i think i I had said this a couple weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:49:05 but like in a season of like really big personalities, like they're highlighting how big Rome's personality is, how big, you know, John's was, how big Andy's was, whatever. I think that a really fun editing thing is like the person who maybe on paper, I don't even want to say has the smallest personality, but maybe just in comparison to everybody else feels a little bit more muted. Like that's the person who's always in the background making the decision that need to be made caroline had the line when she was at the social hour that said like you know i'm not playing
Starting point is 00:49:31 cornhole i'm playing survivor like i'm not going to take a break it's a good line it's a really good line great line and i think that you know i'm i'm on the if caroline if there was a name for what like the caroline train the caroline caravan something oh i like that something caroline caroline carriage the caroline carriage i am driving it that was me doing the thing that people do to horses you know i'm if i'm in the front car i don't it's not whipping don't don't worry yeah no okay don't worry i know you were on the fence about that money for me see it don't worry yeah i know you were on the fence about that money for me see it don't worry you can still retroactively write the check bring it back bring it back bring it back we'll see about that yeah okay well i think it's time for us to get into our activity of the day
Starting point is 00:50:19 and we are going to be doing something very special very near and dear to my heart when the two of you were going to come on the b&b i knew what i had to do and that is a choose your own adventure so we are going to be playing a choose your own adventure story it is a tradition on the b&b that you must come up with a character a name a description motivation i believe last time we did this was the premiere of 45. And what was the name of your clown character, Mike? You and Kevin Jacobs came up with some clown character. Was it a clown or was it? Biggles?
Starting point is 00:50:54 Biggles the clown. Oh yeah, it was a clown, but he talked with like a very husky voice. Okay, that I don't remember. I don't remember all the details. There was one that i think i was a calendar model in then there was the clown i think the clown was last time yeah that was also the one where we drowned in one of these universes uh yeah that's in the marooning so is a possibility
Starting point is 00:51:16 so i'm just gonna throw that out there so therefore you must come up with the name of your character who's going to be participating in the choose your own adventure story if we have any ideas any inspiration that we could throw out there to start the brainstorming process i mean i already got mine locked in oh i've been you know i've really been thinking about club penguin recently and this takes me back to my my very first club penguin character was named gob don after my paternal grandfather, who's named Gordon. So I think I'm going to be going with Gobdon for my. So was it just the name Gordon, but you subbed out an R for a B?
Starting point is 00:51:55 Yeah, well, because I'm Brando. You got to, you know, put my touch in there somewhere. You all have to be Gobdon because you. Oh, is it collective? You're not choosing your own adventure individually i didn't know it was collective okay you can each have a run at the story if you want it's the same how about gob don is his first name and prancing chooses the last the middle name i too was gonna go with gob don
Starting point is 00:52:19 that it's easier if we just do gob don gob don is great you think brando are you the only person that's ever named your club penguin avatar after your grandfather probably i was like four or five i believe that's great long may he reign yeah i'm just i'm just obsessed with like i'm gonna give i'm gonna give it my own little touch and it's not gonna be borden it's gonna be i'm smack in the middle gob don yes gob don okay so do you want to give gob don a last name or is gob don's last name just gob don so it's gob don gob don and then mike do you want to give a middle name for gob don gob don gob don okay oh gob don gob don impossible to say We're not the host, Leon.
Starting point is 00:53:05 That's not on us. The twist is, if you say his name three times, he finds an idol. Oh my gosh. All I can say is I'm so happy that we're using pronouns for the majority of this. So I can just say you and I don't have to continue to say Gobdon, Gobdon, Gobdon. But I do appreciate it. I love you with your full legal name. Well, you know, that's what, I mean, well, I guess, oh, if Jeff calls you by your first name or your last name gob don is covered because it's gonna be gob don regardless so that's good i'm
Starting point is 00:53:31 glad that we've we figured that out has jeff ever middle named anybody oh that's a good question because i'm pretty sure there's got to be at least one survivor contestant that went by their middle name but that was not a choice because i think what what brando is suggesting at least one survivor contestant that went by their middle name but that was not a choice because i think what what brando is or this is how i'm interpreting brando's suggestion is last naming someone is a compliment to jeff right you know what i mean okay like a mariano yeah or cochran yeah exactly it's a last that last a compliment. So then neutral is first name. Insult is middle name. Oh, I like that. No, I think insult is full name.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Like you're in trouble with your parents. I think first and middle is, yeah, that's, that's, you did something wrong. First middle. Okay. Yes. Well, we did, I think it was Annika who used Samuel. Yes. Full Samuel.
Starting point is 00:54:21 That's also, oh, you're in trouble. Government named. Yeah. Government named. Exactly. Government named. Okay. yes well samuel that's also oh you're in trouble government named yeah my name exactly government names um okay so is there any other backstory you want to add about gob don gob don gob don uh they are a club penguin character um is this person leona playing survivor are they in the game you're playing survivor so as what does Gob Don times three do? Exactly. Like what's his job?
Starting point is 00:54:46 What did you bring for me? Zamboni driver, maybe something, you know, snow related, which isn't going to fare well on, you know, the beaches of Fiji. People always climb it for the winter season. And Gob Don thought that that's what this is. As a Zamboni driver. Gob Don came in the full parka. Gob Don was doing the summit.
Starting point is 00:55:05 He did the application. He actually came on Survivor thinking it was the summit. Yeah. Well, I mean, talk about tear-away pants. That would be perfect. And then, Brando, how is your grandfather? Is he with us? Yes.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I thought you were going to ask if he's white, which he's also white. And that was my next question. But you probably guessed from Gordon. How old is he with us yes i thought you're gonna ask if he's white which he's also white and then that's that was my next question but you probably guessed from gordon how old is he uh i couldn't tell you late 80s i believe that's what i would like him to be there's a god in this simulation i think we have a man late 80s like uh ernest shackleford that's like an 80s old discovering Antarctica. And I wanted, we don't know specificity how old he is, but he's saying late 80s and he won't tell anybody the exact number. He's just late 80s.
Starting point is 00:55:54 He could be 90. We don't know. God willing. Alright, so we have, yes, the approximately 87 year old Zamboni driver. But he says he's 45. He says he's 45. Yes, but Kyle will fall for it it's fine we'll be embarking on this season of Survivor
Starting point is 00:56:10 okay I think we're ready to start our journey Mike I've shared with you the screen so let's get this started okay I will read to you for those of you who are listening to the audio if you're watching the video there's a little web-based interface that we're going to play with but the choices are
Starting point is 00:56:31 yours to make gob don so welcome to survivor 47 you are one of the newest castaways this season it's been a rough few days so far but you're still in the game. As Jeff always says, this is why you never give up on Survivor. You wake to the light of the sunrise and the noise of some light bickering. Tensions have been high between Sam and Annika over shelter duties. You can either intervene or stay out of it. What do you choose? So this is up to the three of you. You can either choose. This is obviously Gobdon's decision,
Starting point is 00:57:07 but Gobdon can either intervene to try to mediate between Sam and Annika to maintain peace or stay out of it, focus on your own game, and build relationships elsewhere. What would Gobdon do as a... WWGGG. A late 80s Zamboni driver what would gov don do i feel like a late 80s zamboni driver is going to be off doing his own thing surely right for better or for worse yeah i i would agree with that he's trying to clock into work he's trying to find that zamboni um i just wonder
Starting point is 00:57:40 though like are we on this tribe are we are we a new person on the tribe? Are Sam, Sierra and Andy also with us or we don't get to know that? It's like the circle where they brought someone new in. Yeah. God's just like always been there. You know, God is an enigma. He's an institution. He's an institution. He just exists on Survivor.
Starting point is 00:58:00 OK, I do like the building relationships elsewhere. But I do also like the idea of this 80 something year old man trying to mediate and not knowing what the fight is about and trying to just gesticulate on what he thinks it's about um i think that's interesting to me but i do think for the longevity of god's game i do think probably focusing on your own thing makes the most sense swoop in at the end you know what i mean and and figure it out right an hour before tribal right reveal that you're not 45 years old at final tribal council exactly all right okay all three for three let's stay out of it okay so we're gonna stay out of it
Starting point is 00:58:36 no way jose that's obviously what gob don sound like i'm staying out of this you think to yourself instead you wander down the path towards the water well to look for shelter supplies you see andy in the distance he's been having a tough time fitting in and you sense an opportunity there we go what do you choose do you offer to help andy offer him support build an alliance with him or ignore andy he's at the bottom that does me no good i should keep exploring the jungle i mean look late 80s you know zamboni driver is probably giving a lot of unsolicited advice right oh yeah yeah sure so i could see a world where we're helping andy i don't know what everyone else thinks i do think if we wanted to speed run getting voted out, we just ignore everybody on the drive. Just keep walking.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Keep on walking. I think that, look, this man is used to driving by himself. Perhaps it's time he pick up a bit of a co-pilot. I think Andy could be the lifeline or he could be the lifeline to Andy in this time of need. Okay. You're choosing
Starting point is 00:59:44 or sorry, Gobdon is choosing to help need. Okay. You're choosing, or sorry, Gobdon is choosing to help Andy. Hey, Andy, you call out. How are you feeling, bud? Wow, Liana, you nailed the tone of this. You didn't even know that this would be an octogenarian, but really, you've got it down. Well, it's because he's putting on his 45-year-old voice,
Starting point is 01:00:03 so I'm just trying to do the best 45 year old impression that I can do. You know what I mean? Okay. And he takes a deep breath and begins to pour his heart out, sharing his feelings and anxieties about this grueling experience. Seems he's really opening up to you, revealing vulnerabilities you never knew he had. You comfort him, assuring him that everything will be all right. But as he looks into your eyes, a shadow crosses his face. Mark my words, he says ominously. I will never forget this.
Starting point is 01:00:34 The weight of his words hangs in the air, leaving an unsettling feeling that something profound is about to unfold. Okay, sounds good, buddy, you reply, and head off into the jungle feeling somewhat rattled. You don have a choice here you just have to go further into the trees 87 years of life and he's about to get killed by i know i don't know what and he's gonna come at him with his gesticulating saw and cut off his head if only sabaya had left if only john lovin had left with the machete then maybe we wouldn't be in such predicament he's gonna try to solve wrong first you're gonna feel a nice dull blade
Starting point is 01:01:13 on the back of your neck at night am i getting a haircut speaking of as everyone mentioned brandon donlon's new haircut yet looks fantastic spin can we get a spin for the wow look at that look at that wow back to gob dog we're gonna go further into the trees you decide to go further into the trees when you spot a suspicious looking log on the ground as you approach the log seems oddly out of place curiosity Curiosity peaks, you kneel down and inspect it more closely. There's a small latch on the side
Starting point is 01:01:49 that looks like it hasn't been touched in ages. Oh, I know he's a mere old man with no dad feeling. With a mix of excitement and... Oh no. Oh no. We're gone, gone. With a mix of excitement and trepidation i mean you reach
Starting point is 01:02:10 for the latch and pull it open in an instant the log erupts in a shower of bright red paint the vibrant color splatters everywhere across your clothes your face and even the surrounding trees you gasp in shock as the paint drips down pooling around you like like a crimson puddle. Before you can do anything about the mess, you hear someone coming down the path, down through the path. What should you do? Play dead or run and grab a chicken? Are your two options? Okay, so the two choices are,
Starting point is 01:02:37 you either pretend that you have been brutally injured or you pretend that you've murdered an animal. You know, if you're 80 something yearss and the early onset is probably already there you can feign ignorance very easily and be like i don't know how this got here either i i am intrigued by playing dead i think playing dead i'm curious of what happens what i'm nervous about here is if you get medevaced if they look at you and think that you're dead sure yeah we've killed leona also for audio listeners leona is viciously choking on something i'm dying i should lay down for the audio listeners brandon keeps pointing at his hair every time we talk for some reason guys focus up focus up
Starting point is 01:03:18 points of the hair i think okay i agree with met the mediv active at all. Running and grabbing a chicken. Also, I can't imagine he's the fastest runner in the world, but I would go running. I would say grab. I think the chicken should be interesting. Okay, so you're going to run and grab a chicken. Before you can do anything about the mess, a desperate idea strikes you. You sprint towards the chickens,
Starting point is 01:03:41 grab one and return to the paint covered path. Just as Sierra and Rachel round the corner, you pretend to be in the midst of a clumsy slaughter. I'm so sorry, you shout, fainting distress. I was trying to get us some food, but it all went wrong. Sierra and Rachel stare in shock, their eyes darting between you, the frantic chicken, and the sea of red paint. What have you done? Rachel cries out, her voice a mix of horror and disbelief the chicken unharmed but thoroughly annoyed flaps its wings spreading more paint around we need to trade them sierra yells i can't deal with this anymore thankfully before any more
Starting point is 01:04:16 discussion can be had about the chicken situation it's time to leave for the immunity challenge wait i'm very confused so what did they assume happened to the chicken if it's just flapping around fancy free well they didn't think much of it i like the image of them rolling up to tribal council with this chicken that is just spattered in blood and severely maimed asking if they can trade it for something else yeah the same reason you can't like wear something from coals if you've bled in it you can't really give back chicken you've also kind of maybe it was something where it's like they could claim like oh we got covered in red paint oh that should be a claim as well like oh i i got covered by protesters i was trying to kill the cheetah was out here yeah that's what happened covered me in
Starting point is 01:04:58 paint okay yeah we'll go with that i'll we'll ad lib that in when we get to the immunity challenge. Okay. So you and your tribe enter the immunity challenge arena prepared for whatever fresh hell Jeff has in store for you today. However, there's other business to attend to first. It's time to talk chicken. We want to trade our chickens for something better. We're thinking eggs.
Starting point is 01:05:21 How about 24, Sam chimes in. He and Jeff go back and forth before Jeff makes a shocking offer. I'll give you the 24 eggs, but you need to give me the chickens and one of your own tribe mates to give to Lavo. You were talking about trading Saul earlier. Might have to trade somebody else here. Everyone's jaws dropped to the floor. The general consensus seems to be to give away Andy, but maybe you should step forward. You have three here gob don can either suggest andy i mean we were all thinking it volunteer maybe i should go myself or reject the deal everyone is needed on gotta oh man big decision here i have i have something but i know i don't want to speak for the floor no go for it i am interested
Starting point is 01:06:09 if this if this choose your adventure we want to maximize meeting everybody and somebody's going to go to lavo i do think it should be us i completely agree as well yeah let's go meet rome plus like listen to be fair this gob done at this point thinks andy is going to murder him and also he got caught with a chicken covered in red paint so like i think right now is the good time to cash out and leave the table and try something else i agree all right i think we volunteer okay so going to volunteer. Everyone looks around awkwardly, but most stares go to Andy. You hear Rachel take a breath and begin to speak,
Starting point is 01:06:50 but you cut her off before she can suggest that Andy goes. I'll go to Lavo instead of Andy. The tribe stares at you in shock. Are you sure? Sam asks, concern etched on his face. Yes, you reply. I want to give him a chance to stay. You also think this
Starting point is 01:07:06 could be an opportunity to form new alliances before the merge i'll never forget what you did for me andy whispers in your ear as you walk over to lavo no there's a certain adverb in there liana that you skipped over sensually sorry whispers sensually in your ear as you walk over to lavo the immunity challenge starts and Gata is moving really slowly on cutting the rope part of the challenge. Could Andy be throwing this challenge to protect you? Andy's early misstep causes Gata to lose, saving you from tribal council.
Starting point is 01:07:36 As you leave the arena, you swear you saw a wink from Andy. Maybe saving him saved you after all. Wow. The end. Okay. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:48 You not getting voted out. You didn't get voted out. Yep. Congratulations. Yes. So well done. Gob Don. Should we try another universe for Gob Don?
Starting point is 01:08:01 So you can't, we can go back if you want to change your decision here to or we can restart at the beginning those are your options what do you guys think i mean do you want you want to see him get messy you want to see him try to intervene in this in the same in on anika argument yeah i would love to yeah yeah yeah i'm curious if we end up back here uh all right okay so blah blah blah blah blah blah tensions have been high what do you choose to do intervene intervene okay so gob don you decide to intervene in the conflict between sam and annika over shelter duties as you approach them you can see the tension in their body language hey guys you say trying to sound casual. I
Starting point is 01:08:46 couldn't help it over here. Maybe I could help mediate the situation. Sam looks at you skeptically while Anika seems relieved that someone else has stepped in. How do you propose to solve this conflict? Do you either agree with Sam? I think our time would be better spent getting food. I agree with Anika. let's quickly gather more bamboo to improve the shelter or screw this stupid shelter let's just burn it down i know what i'm voting for the fun option yeah we all know the fun option is here okay i'm gathering the fun option not gathering bamboo but burning it down absolutely okay so we burn it down burn it down burn it down you begin to chant before the rest of your tribe can stop you you
Starting point is 01:09:35 grab a burning piece of wood from the fire burn it down burn it down you continue to chant your tribe mates production and the entire crew are in shock at your actions before they have time to react you've tossed several burning logs into the shelter the palm fronds are quickly set ablaze which lights the rest of the shelter you cheer loudly jumping up enjoy burn it down you chant one more time before security takes you down into the sand security disqualify from the game and removed for a radical dangerous are there like like the challenge or there's just like a bunch of goons standing around ready to tackle you the yx loss for this episode is crazy i don't know how david's gonna use this in the rules. I just love the idea of this specifically being gobbed on.
Starting point is 01:10:26 No, like. The lady. This old. Yeah. This old man burning it down. I mean, where was gobbed on on January 6th? That's all I'm saying. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:10:40 You know where he was. Oh no. Oh, okay. All right. Wow. So, yeah, that's what you did. So, if you're interested in doing anything else, you have your options. You want to take Annika's side this time?
Starting point is 01:11:01 Let's take Annika's side. Yeah, let's do her the service. Okay, I agree with Annika. Let's quickly gather more bamboo to improve the shelter. Okay, so... You can burn it down. You're, yeah, so, okay, so you propose, okay, you propose gathering more supplies
Starting point is 01:11:15 to help improve the shelter. Sam, annoyed by your suggestion, reluctantly agrees. I'll go down to the beach if you go into the jungle. You bound off into the jungle. Down the path towards the water well, you see Andy in the distance. Now, this is the same choice as before do you want to help andy or did this time do you want to ignore andy screw him who needs him ignore andy he's at the bottom that does me no good also you know you're still thinking about the burning down the shelter it's
Starting point is 01:11:41 a lot of stuff you don't have time to talk to and Andy. So you ignore Andy and turn your focus back to the jungle. You know what you think to yourself? Screw supplies. There must be an idol somewhere out here. All you can hear is the sound of your own footsteps, crushing leaves and branches as your eyes dart around the trees and rocks. You don't see anything in your immediate vicinity. Perhaps you should explore elsewhere. So do you go to the rock wall or go further into the trees i have a theory that if we go further into the trees we're going to get nickelodeon slimed again so i think we go to the rock wall this time the rock wall i want gabe's falling box to knock him out okay so let's go to the rock wall you decide to go to the rock wall when you arrive you feel the energy of a hidden immunity idol calling out to you you spot
Starting point is 01:12:24 a narrow crevice in the rock wall. That must be it, you think to yourself, squeezing through the tight opening. Inside, the air is cool and still, illuminated by a faint glimmer at the far end. The idol, you think excitedly. Just as you reach for it, a deafening rumble echoes through the crevice. The ground shakes violently, and before you can react, rocks begin to tumble down around you. You dash towards the exit, but it's too late. A massive boulder crashes into place behind you, sealing you in.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Trapped beneath the layers of stone, you realize that this will be your tomb. Maybe some treasures were never meant to be found. Wow. Jesus Christ. We're using something dark dark this poor old man it's so sad especially because he's old i have been sad either way but um i think this is the only death outcome so um yeah the other one just included you burning down committing arson yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um okay so the yeah let me i'm just gonna help guide us a little bit so we're gonna um okay we're not gonna play dead because so with
Starting point is 01:13:32 the log getting nickelodeon slimed if you play dead you do get medivac because they think that you're dead yeah and then essentially so what i wrote was that your care as you're carefully lifted onto the stretcher your social anxiety kicks into overdrive, forcing you to commit to the charade instead of coming clean. So anyway, you get medically evacuated. So, okay, let's try to get to the... Okay, so you are going to... All right, so you're going to go to the stretcher. All right, so you can either suggest Andy or reject the deal. So we're now back at tribal council where Jeff is asking if you would like to volunteer to trade somebody.
Starting point is 01:14:10 So I would like to give you the option to either suggest Andy or you could reject the deal. Which will get us into the second part of the story. Do we want to channel our inner Dondi here and reject the deal? Oh, no deal. No deal. Yeah, let's do that. Okay. Reject the deal.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Everyone is needed on Gata. Okay. No deal, Jeff Word, you say. That sounds like some sort of swear. I don't think you can say that on a podcast oh that's why saul says fart this tribe sticks together through thick and thin the rest of your tribe seems a bit annoyed with you over your brash decision apart from andy who seems thankful for your support looks like it's not a unanimous decision so no deal, Jeff says with the ferocity of Howie Vendel.
Starting point is 01:15:06 A bit shaken, you proceed to the immunity challenge. Your tribe performs well throughout the physical portion of the challenge with Annika, the ace puzzle wizard, sitting out. You are on puzzle duty. Rachel hands you two puzzle pieces. Which one do you take? Right hand piece or her left hand? So the piece she's holding in her right hand or the piece she's holding in her right hand or the
Starting point is 01:15:25 piece she's holding in her left hand i am left-handed and i think my impulse would be to do the opposite of what i want to do with the challenge so i think that right might be i think that's the right decision because she assuming she's right-handed she would hand the piece to you that she wants you to use and i trust rachel's judgment over the memory of a man that was born during World War II. Okay. All right. So Gobdon takes the piece in the right hand. You reach for the piece in a right hand and try to fit it into the puzzle.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Oh my God, it's comprehensive. Not working. What should you try next? Do you turn the piece to the right or do you turn the piece to the left? So 90 degrees to the right or 90 degrees to the left? Do we stick to our guns do we go right again yeah i think what do you think mike yeah let's do it right was the wrong choice the first time what are the odds it's the wrong choice twice exactly you turn the piece right you turn the
Starting point is 01:16:24 piece to the right but it still doesn't fit what do you do try it again this time it has to work or turn it upside down turn it upside down yeah we don't want to try it again you turn the piece upside down but it still doesn't fit what's going on you try it again or do you try it on the other side of the puzzle? I have a hard time believing again is going to work. Yeah. Am I alone in that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:51 But it's there for a reason, surely. No, I think it's going to be Liana being like, what are you talking about? It just didn't fit over here. Go to the other side of the puzzle. Yeah. I think other side. Let's do the other side. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Try it on the other side of the puzzle. You try it on the other side of the puzzle. Oh it on the other side of the puzzle before you can even attempt to place the piece the other two tribes finish their puzzle sending gata to tribal council maybe you should have volunteered to go to lavo back on gata beach things are in complete disarray your time is valuable you really need to be cautious with how you spend it who should you speak with andy or sam those are your two options i am intrigued it seems like andy something's going on with him now while this may result in homicide i'm willing to roll the dice here worst case we leave with the showmance yeah Yeah. It was very sensual. Or dead. Or dead. One of the two.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Okay, so you're going to choose to speak with Andy. Andy, my man! You yell. Does that sound like your grandfather, Brando? I'm doing my best. Yes, that's spot on. Thank you. You yell from across the beach. Wanna go get water at the well, you cheekily exclaim.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Andy agrees to go with you. Once you reach the water well, his eyes dart around looking for others. I wanted to thank you for not letting me get traded to Lavo during the chicken negotiations, Andy whispers. We need to figure out a way to save us both. You remember something. You have an idol. Thankfully, the blood paint doesn't invalidate it. You need to find a way to figure out where the votes are going tonight. You and Andy go on a fact-finding mission, weeding out all the false info, but will you make the right call tonight? Tribal council proceeds as normal, but you're not paying attention. There's so much pressure on your idol play. Who cares about Jeff word? Yeah, whatever. It's time to vote. Jeff declares you fiddle with the
Starting point is 01:18:42 idol in your pocket, praying, hoping that you've made the right call before jeff can even say anything you shoot up i want to play this idol you yell awkwardly i can confirm this is a real immunity idol your eyes dart around the tribe you or andy you or andy i want to play this idol for andy gasps erupt from the cast and crew. The crew? That's a very unprofessional name. The security, you know, they're there. Jeff reads the votes. Andy does not count. Andy does not count. Andy does not count.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Sierra, the fifth person voted out of Survivor is Sierra. A wave of relief washes over you. You and Andy are both safe to live another day, but at what cost to your social relationships was this like the best ending besides not going to travel at all uh yeah this one was pretty good you there was another let's see if you if you talk to say what kind of depends on whether or not you find the idol if you have the idol then that you almost always save yourself. If you talk to Sam, Sam also saves you.
Starting point is 01:19:50 There's another situation where if you suggest Andy, then essentially you definitely get voted out. You also give an ultimatum to either Rachel or Annika. It becomes very complicated. And then there's a, there's one situation where we play the idol wrong so yeah yeah this that's that's the main that's sort of the main story so congratulations you guys survived i'm really proud of gob don this is so funny you should like do this publicly people would love this i feel like it was it's really it's really fun to come so the the one piece i
Starting point is 01:20:23 was really happy with you guys actually managed to figure out really well was the puzzle piece so there's an infinite recursion loop that you can get stuck into where you just can't get out of it and so you just like keep trying to yeah so you just keep trying the puzzle pieces and you can't get out so i'm really impressed that y'all managed to get out of that so oh my god liana you killed it much like you attempted to do with a chicken i know i know and you only died like not in the real playthrough so just the other one yeah luckily we avoided the incredibly dark tragic ending of him being buried alive by a rock slide under rocks yeah exactly and, exactly. And I'm a smart call
Starting point is 01:21:05 with the not playing dead and getting Medivac. Yeah, that is what I was. That's all these two. These two new. Well done. Well done. Gob Don.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Gob Don. Gob Don. Gob Don. Well done for you, Liana. You truly gave Gob Don a voice quite literally and made us realize that, you know what?
Starting point is 01:21:20 Maybe we should bring in 80 something year old Damboni drivers into the game. Where are they? They're applying. I know they're applying they play that commercial every episode exactly we know they're out there come on jeff well jesse i mean last time he reached out to moms i think this time he's like if you're an 80 year old zamboni driver sitting next to you on the couch shake it and say hey apply to be on survivor i love the idea of jeff you know how okay so advertising is obviously changing we're getting a lot of very specific targeted ads so i kind of like this idea of jeff also doing very targeted ads specifically to appeal to the octogenarian
Starting point is 01:21:56 zamboni drivers this is gonna come across this will play when you're on like the tablet at the doctor you know when you're checking in this is when they blast that as you're getting out skip this ad like the bingo tv like in between rounds yeah yeah they'll play like when you score a strike in bowling like it's the animations jeff popping up applied behind survivor oh my goodness well last but certainly not least uh we are heading to spotlight over to these two gentlemen. And we're being extra charitable with the charity this time around. You're each going to give a charity or cause to highlight for the audience. Brando, as the newer blood, we'll start with you.
Starting point is 01:22:36 What charity do you want to highlight? I'm going to go with the ALS Association. I feel like ALS is a very important cause to the survivor community and also just in general. And so that's why that's my pick. All right. Sounds good. What about you, Brandon? I'm going to go with the Give Kids the World charity. There's the Over the Edge weekend that's happening in December. A lot of Survivor, Big Brother, Amazing Race folks are going to it.
Starting point is 01:22:56 I will not be in attendance, but I was in attendance many, many years before I was ever on Survivor. They throw a beautiful event and all the money from that goes to the Give Kids the World charity. So check out the World charity. So check out the charity event. Even better yet, if you're in the Florida area, if you want to fly to it, go to the event.
Starting point is 01:23:10 All the money will go towards them. And if you just want to support from your couch, just Google Give Kids the World and you can find all the information there. All right. Two fantastic charities from two fantastic guys. This was amazing.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Call it a double day, call it a quadruple B, whatever you want to. I could not think of a better way to finish off my favorite pre-merge of the new era so far any final thoughts as we go around the horn and do some plugs brandon let's start with you oh um i have nothing i mean you can follow me brandon donald i do want to hype if you go on the raw pads podcast instagram in the next couple days you will see i don't know if you remember if you're watching this but from the chicago show i had a bowl,
Starting point is 01:23:45 made people on stage, read things on stage, or bring up words, random words in conversation. We did that again. Rob didn't know about it and nobody's caught on that we did it. Nobody asked me about it. It was really weaved in well. So this week we're editing the video.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Now you'll see what we did on stage that a couple of people pulled out of a hat, really out of the we had the don de briefcase which is a fun so people pulled things out of the donny briefcase and read them aloud on stage weaved them in so good that you didn't even notice it so you'll see that this week all right so cool that is amazing brando what would you like to plug because you are out and about on these internet streets i mean other than giving you know one more shout out to brandon donald's nude fantastic haircut um i'd like to plug my twitch channel i've been doing a lot of fun stuff uh pokemon survivor baking over on twitch.tv
Starting point is 01:24:35 slash brando meyer uh so come come say hi we uh we have a good time over there how often do you stream uh well i try to do every saturday but it's pretty sporadic right now so turn on my notifications and you'll never miss a stream perfect liana what do you got to plug you can follow me on twitter at liana rhap and i'm also doing the mass singer coverage that's going strong so we and i are going to be talking or talked about the premiere of group b so all new people that was really really fun so even if you're not a big Masked Singer fan, we highly recommend come hang out with us for a bit. All right. Of course, you can follow me at a Mike Bloom type.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Check out my conversation with Annika, which was a lot of fun as we were both kind of recuperating from the glow of the live show. I was still glowing to get to talk with her about everything that happened in her game and then doing my usual stuff for scripted TV. And I got to do a bunch of stuff with big brother finale as well. If you're still catching up on that,
Starting point is 01:25:34 plenty of stuff happening in the reality TV community as spooky season officially begins. And I'll be a little scared next week because Liana will be, unfortunately not available to come on to the BNB, but we have quite the treat for you. Not a trick. I'll be joined by another Motley duo. And considering that the individual portion of the game, we're dealing with a lot of free agents.
Starting point is 01:25:56 It only makes sense. We bring on the two co-hosts of the free agent podcast. That is Matt Liguori and Brian Escali. Very excited. I don't think either one of them have ever been on the B&B. So should be a fun way for them to make their debut as you break down whatever the hell is coming next, whether it's regular,
Starting point is 01:26:13 mergatory as we know it, whether it's something new. Either way, it's sure to be messy given the loving timbre of this cast, and I cannot wait to get into it. Of course, thank you to everybody who came out to the live show as well. It is always such an incredible experience
Starting point is 01:26:28 and especially those of you that had some very kind words to say about the B&B as well. It really does mean the world truly to have your support going on for over 10 seasons now at this point. We wouldn't be able to do it without all of you listening to us
Starting point is 01:26:43 just absolutely play proverbial cornhole for an hour and a half every week. And we'll do it all again next week. Special shout out to everyone at the team behind the scenes at RHAP for packaging this podcast for your eyes and ears. And well from America for his fantastic theme song. I will be back next week with Matt and Scali to break down the next phase of Survivor 47. Until next time, everybody, we'll check you out on your next day. Long live
Starting point is 01:27:12 Goblin War. R-H-A-P-B-M-B Mike and Leanna gotta play in some games You better pray to your mama that they're not super lame And if that all sounds cool, I can tell you the name It's the R-H-A-P-B-M-B You can stay for free.

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