RHAP: We Know Survivor - Christian Hubicki Reacts to the BB28 News

Episode Date: July 10, 2026

Christian Hubicki Reacts to the BB28 News Big Brother 28 launches with new faces and a few familiar faces from both Survivor and Big Brother, all navigating the first waves of shocks and alliances. Rob Cesternino and Taran Armstrong welcome guest Christian Hubicki ( Survivor: David vs. Goliath; Survivor 50) to dig into the season premiere and unpack how these reality veterans and rookies may adapt to the unique intensity of the Big Brother house. The main question: Can Rick Devens, known for bold moves on Survivor, settle into Big Brother’s blend of patience and chaos? The discussion spotlights Rick Devens’ surprise and adjustment as he faces new twists, the reactions within the house, and the unique struggles of moving from Survivor’s survivalist competitions to Big Brother’s endurance games and social tests. Christian recalls Cirie’s warnings about the difficulty of Big Brother and debates what kind of game Rick might play, from lying low to rallying his own cult-like crew, and whether he can build trust or paint a target on his back in a house packed with gamers. The podcast also covers strategy ideas, alliances, and how Rick’s secret weapons (like strong challenge skills and the ability to entertain) could shake up the BB formula. Christian recommends Rick Devens lean into his charisma to gather allies, rather than playing passively or sticking too hard to Survivor habits. The panel ponder Rick’s ability to shift from Survivor’s aggressive play to Big Brother’s long-game approach. The group highlights how production rules in Big Brother limit strategic bluffing with fake powers, potentially handcuffing Rick’s usual gameplay. Christian points out Rick’s popularity post-Survivor 50 might earn him valuable support in early fan votes, possibly giving him an edge. The hosts compare Survivor’s hardships to BB’s “slop” punishment, with consensus that Rick can easily handle the adjustment. As the weeks go on, will Rick Devens’ bold gameplay style blend with the slower, more social BB28 pace, or will it put him at risk before the jury phase? Catch the full episode for all the insights and predictions as the season begins. 00:00 Big Brother 28 Premiere Excitement 03:28 Rick Devens Joins Big Brother 28 07:35 Survivor Strategies Meet Big Brother 12:37 Rick Devens and Dee’s Dynamic 17:20 Rick Devens’ Big Brother Gameplan 23:10 Fan Vote Twist and Survivor Links 28:40 Survivor Strengths in Big Brother House 34:06 Zingbot and Big Brother Traditions 39:07 Finale Thoughts on BB28 Cast Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Big Brother coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Big Brother podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

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I'm excited. We got some good stuff to talk about, Rob. We've got some great stuff to talk about here today because we're here to talk with a great friend of the pot who is seeing one of his loved ones. His great friend is in the Big Brother House. Rick Devons is in the Big Brother House. And here to talk about it is his partner in crime, Dr. Christian Ubicki,

Christian, how are you? Rob, I'm elated. You see, I got to watch an episode of Big Brother, so one, how could I not be happy and, you know, really intellectually stimulated because I just, I've learned just from Big Brother about the discovery of a new element on the periodic table, BB Tonium. Bibetoneum, yes, yes. And we will get you to fact check all of the science in last night's Big Brother premiere. Of course, and here you see Rick Devin's, maybe even other people you know.

in the Big Brother house. But Christian, could you give us, what is your back history with Big Brother? Have you watched Big Brother before? About nine-ish years ago, I have seen a Big Brother. I believe it was BB, I guess it would be B-B-19. Oh, one of the best.

Yeah, that I saw a little bit of that. I saw a little bit of that. That has been, and that was also in the middle of Survivor casting at the time. So I was kind of into reality shows. But I think I could tune in like near the end of the season. And I think I missed whatever happens at the beginning. Whatever happens at the beginning.

Yes. Do God. I had an expectation as to what Big Brother seasons are like as watched on television. And it exceeded them. And I got to say, it was incredibly just titillating, engaging and colorful for my one-year-old son to watch. That's what I found. He was very engaged. Did you prefer the Big Brother premiere or your accident on Survivor? I think we all prefer my accident on Survivor, but who doesn't love that? Yeah. So, Christian, in your talks with Rick, could you tell that, did you know this was going to

happen? I had an inkling that this was going to happen. Yes. Completely coincidentally, I just woke up from a dream. I was like, Rick's going to be on Big Brother. Yeah. Yeah. If you could have imparted any advice to Rick, would you've had any advice for him? Well, my strategy was to watch Corey Wartonberger's streams on how to play Big Brother. Yes. And record them and send him to Rick as podcast.

Again, I had no clue explicitly, but I had a dream that he'd go on. Yeah. So, Rick, this might be useful to you someday. Yes. And stuff that I did. Okay. So did you listen to him? them as you were recording them. I absolutely did. Well, I had to edit out all the ads for

draft kings. So I had a job to do. And so I'm not going to torture them in the in the pregame, Ponderosa, whatever they call it for Big Brother by making him listen to that many Draft King's ads. Yeah. Chris, how do you feel like Rick is going to fare in the Big Brother House? I think that Rick is going to, it's going to find a way to have fun with everything. I will say, I watched Rick on this on this episode. And his, his reaction, his reaction, was very much similar to mine, which is, what is going on? What is happening to me right now? He just seemed like there's a volcano.

I can see the emotions watching over his face. He's just like, okay, Rachel's here. Oh, I guess Rachel's not here. And I feel like the big brother people are like, yay, this is what we asked for. Rick's like, I don't know what I signed up for. That is my read. But he always has a way to find the fun in the situations. I think that once he gets acclimated, he's going to know the exact

right comedy route to go with this. Well, it was my understanding that on Survivor, and this is kind of like a behind the scenes thing, that like before the season starts, you always sacrifice somebody to the volcano to the Survivor gods. Oh, yeah. That's, I mean, that's why Davey wasn't on the season. Right. So he was just surprised it was on the show this time.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. So, Christian, we saw that Rick posted a, or they had an intro video from Big Brother. And he's actually talking about in the Big Brother video that he's like, you're like, you're not I'm not going to believe that Surrey told us, though, every day how bad Big Brother is. Could you back up that claim? Did Sarie often talk about how hard the Big Brother House was on her? Every day.

It was, I remember, I would ask her about shows. I try not to go too far on it because I don't want to be a band boy on the island. But it just, I remember I was like, so, Surrey, how was Big Brother? And it's like, never do that again. I would never do that again. And I was like, oh, sorry, but how was it? She's never, never. Never.

She would interrupt me to say never many times. So, I mean, she, it's a different experience. It's built for different kinds of people, I would say. Yeah. You know, you talked about Rick always. You've called Rick Devons a man of action. And he's Captain Kirk. He's a man of action.

But I think historically, the best Big Brother games have often come from patience, waiting it out, playing the long game. How do you feel like that Rick will be able to reconcile those two things? Rick will have to find a way to make what he does work for him because the probability of him actually being patient for two months. What do you say? Rob, what do you say?

Go to sleep for the first half of the game. I have said that. You know, we have evolved. that stance that we want lead like a more active player who's like going to work building a structure now

I understood you know a strategy evolves but I remember generally speaking but that's I don't think and that's only gonna work so long for Rick right I think he'd have to navigate

a different path now is there like a and I don't think Rick Rick is like a cult leader path but like there are like people who do cults in the house yeah well that's season that you watch Good Brother 19.

Yeah, that was good for being a cult leader. I mean, I would recommend a cult leader route for Rick if it's at all possible. Like, if you gets rid of every other returning player and he's the cult leader, like, I don't know. Or I don't know. I'm a work-jopping strategy live, and I'm seeing wincing from Taryn. So, but like the, like, I think that if something where he's able to mold, I mean, he's too kind of like honest to, like, do that sort of thing. But he's got a charisma about him. And people like working with him.

And he has a loyalty. And I think that there is a route where, like, you know, Rick, Emily and I would have just, we would have gone to the end together. We would have ride or died together. We, you know, we laid ourselves on the line for each other. If he finds that, and if he, like, and if he, I'm going to try to pretend I have big brother knowledge now. Everybody stand back.

Everybody, everybody plant themselves on their seats. Like, near in the end game, he lines up with, like, a, comp beast, I believe that's what they're called, a competition, and someone who's super loyal, like a Bowie Gene, I believe it's called, or that something like that,

you know, he has that lined up, he could have the game on lock or something. Okay. You're saying you want him to be JAG? Or a jazz. You know, honestly, Taryn,

you just, but, you know, Rick Devin's was actually very close to winning Survivor, the Edge of Extinction. And it would have been a very Jag-like victory that it was, Rick Devin's was voted out of the game. He actually, like, Jagg never left the house. Rick went to the edge of extinction for, what, nine days, came back, won challenges, played idols, was on his way to potentially winning that game. So a jag-like run might be Rick's best path to victory. And not necessarily a bad one either.

I mean, typically the returny path on Big Brother is that you do need to work with your fellow veterans for a period of time. But obviously at some point you need to be able to position yourself to break away. And that's where, like, I think the activism comes into play. I think what we see a lot in these situations is the veterans will team up. And they'll each start to accumulate their own crew of followers. And the veteran that is the most active in making sure that their people are protected and that they have the position that they need to strike in like the midgame, they tend to be the ones that come out on top.

And so, you know, him and D and potentially Angela, working together, bringing in people, I think is a good spot to be. he just needs to make sure the D doesn't have doesn't isn't capable of protecting all of her people more than he's able to keep his people around. Because he needs he's going to need that protection, I think, once the time comes. And he and D have a good working relationship. Like there's no bad blood after, after 50 as far as I, as far as I know. So I, I mean, that doesn't mean that they won't gun for each other. But I think Rick will be thrilled the CD when she, when he, when she, when she wrote,

runs into the house. I mean, also, like, she puts off a much more threatening error than Rick, in my opinion. The only thing with Rick is I don't know what the perception is going to be of him in the house. I know Angela's like, he's so strategic. He's so, like, she was like in some confessional, or sorry, DR. In some DR, she was saying that how strategic he was. But, like, I mean, in truth, I mean, Rick's going to be playing it off. Like, I'm just a goofball. He doesn't know Big Brother. I'm a 48-year-old goofball with the thing he says. But he has been cooking up, no doubt, some kind of crazy lie to tell the Big Brother

House about a crazy twist. You know, it's, you know, he had the Mr. Beast twist save him last time. And I did let him know that, you know, there's been a new corporate merger on the horizon with Paramount with the Warner Brothers. with Warner Brothers. So now you may, if production lets you do it, again,

this is all a dream I had that I told him about, that, like he could do all kinds of Warner Brothers, DC Cinematic Universe tie-ins and they might be horizontal integration

with production. And so those are things that you could potentially lie about. Now, how well that will work in the house? I don't know. Be comics could be huge. Yeah.

So it's, I mean, Big Brother just those these crazy twists, it seems. And so I'm really curious to see what kind of crazy I want to go back to the relationship with Dee and Rick Devin's because I think it's been an

interesting evolution. I go back to Dalton Ross wrote a mega article previewing and reporting on your journey to Fiji in Survivor 50. And a lot of that article was Dee talking about how she thought Rick Devin's was very annoying and how he was a tryhard. Now, it did seem like that he won her over. I don't think that they had any time in the game together. Actually, they were on that murder. They were on a swap tribe together. Yeah, they were on swap tribe together.

And then D. and then D. was on the jury. And then, listen, nobody loves Rick Devin's more than people watching Survivor from the jury. And it seemed like that that was where he really seemed to win D over at that point when she was watching him play the game as a juror. I do think it is worth noting that while they could come into the house in, a good spot, it is possible that the Big Brother House, under close quarters, that there could be a return to form where Dee could find him annoying again.

You're telling me that people having to live in a house together for all that time are going to learn to hate each other? I am shocked. Certainly, it sounds like there's a base state for which when Dee is not familiar with his best antics, right, because you might return to that. I mean, and certainly if D is looking for someone to throw under the bus, Rick could be one of those people. But the thing is, like, D to me comes across is much more, I mean, Rick taught, like Jeff Probes would sometimes refer to D's win as means being dominant, but also somewhat villainous, which I don't honestly believe. I don't get that off of D. But I think that some people will see D is like, oh, she is dangerous. Whereas Rick's like a, like a scallywag or a scamp, you know, like, oh, that Rick, you know, and yeah. So anyway, Rick, what do you think, Taryn? What I think is interesting is that, you know, with Survivor 50 having aired fairly recently as well, like there's a chance that there are some people on the cast that only know Rick from his first season and have that memory of him. And I think probably what Dee is talking about in terms of like being annoyed with him. I think that people aren't like, most people at least, aren't annoyed with Rick himself as much as like he was very overexposed that season, which tends to cause some backlash in the fan base.

If you're on the season a lot, people are like, oh, this is really annoying. And he came close to winning that season. So I think there's one perception of Rick, if you remember him from Edge of Extinction. And then there's a new sort of version of Rick that was like, oh, he was really loyal to his allies on 50. He did his best to keep them around and to survive as long as he could. And I think he comes off of 50 with like a slightly different perception. So people who have seen that more recent version, I think, are a lot more likely to want, to feel good about Rick.

And in particular, Jason, who just spent a bunch of time on drag race, maybe wasn't able to keep up with 50. And maybe only knows Rick from Edge of Extinction. And maybe that's why he's like, oh, don't trust this man. He's, you know, got some tricks up his sleeves, potentially. And so I think that's an interesting component to this. Yeah, I mean, the other thing is that if the perceptions of Rick are mostly from 50, People might forget how many challenges Rick won in season 38.

Right. And also the types of challenges he wins, I don't know Big Brother challenges, but he's great at carnival games. He's like the carnival game master. And I don't know if that it's like. So I don't know what the challenges are like, but he's shockingly good at those. So if he ends up in the right spot,

maybe he can win a lot of challenges. I don't know. There's a lot of like run back and forth, answering questions, solving puzzles. usually like a baseline level of like a cardio check on your fitness while also doing something that's relatively simple in terms of like puzzles or questions. I think he's definitely capable of winning those.

He's like surprisingly athletic. I think he's sort of like the guy who might get picked last in a pickup basketball game and then be like surprisingly good in that game. Which is generally a great reality show posture. when you're way better than people will perceive you to be. That's often where your superpowers come from. You don't expect this about them. But, like, man, I am, I think that one thing I wish I could have talked to Rick about

if I knew anything about Big Brother would frankly be about casting archetypes for Big Brother. I mean, I'm a big believer in the structure in how people were cast for the show and how they tend to behave, although it's hard to quantify. I think there's a lot of wisdom in that. So the Big Brother archetypes, I don't know as well. But like my general advice, which is relatively useless on returning player seasons, because I know who they are, but for new people, like you judge a book basically by its cover. Like if you get a sense that this person to you seem schemy just from a look, odds are they're more likely than your average person to be schemy.

That's just the way to catch. It's what they're cast for. It is the gut feeling that you get that the casting director says that's a schemer. Right. And so I, so I, my recommendation to anyone, and I, you know, I didn't get the chance to use that on my returning player season, but like Rick now can, right? If he can listen to, you know, what his casting instincts are like, you know. We know he gravitates towards like the, he said it so on the, merely gravitates toward like the nerdier archetype, the nerdier players. Is there anyone on this cast that you see that you're like, oh, that he might gravitate toward this person? Who's the rocket scientist, the young woman? Mallory. Mallory, that's right.

Mallory, I could see him doing a temperature check to see if she's like an Emily Flippin. I don't know if she is like an Emily Flippin. But he does love, he likes the nerds, but he also likes people who don't take themselves too seriously but are fun to be around, right? The people he doesn't like are phonies. Like if he feels like you're phony towards them, then he doesn't have it, or if he feels like you're being hypocritical about, like, like, I think part of the reason that, like, they didn't go on with Joe is that like Joe, he felt like Joe's allowed to play survivor, but I'm not allowed to play survivor. Joe will judge me for playing survivor.

But like, Emily, he has a blast with, because I was like, you know what? Let's just do this for chaos. Let's just vote for Surrey anyway, even though it won't matter on the revote. Sure, let's do that, right? He loves those kinds of people. But yeah, that's who we gravitate me. One of the things about Rick is that I feel like that he really uses tribal counsel as a show. I think that he is one of the players in Survivor history that probably has most looked at that as an opportunity for how do I get my point across? How do I be demonstrative to the jury? In Big Brother, we don't really have a tribal council like that.

But there are ceremonies where people make nominations. or bring people, put them like up for a nomad, or off the block with the veto. Do you think that that will be helpful for Rick that there's no formal tribal council or do you think it'll hurt him in some way? It means that he would have to make one, right? Like, he has to make a stage.

I mean, like, certain, I mean, I've seen people. What's that? House meeting. I don't know if he would call a house meeting. But like, I mean, his, he likes a stage because that he's he's good at performing on the stage i mean he was a newscaster for many years he can just you can perform on that way um now i don't know the ceremony's work you can nominate a nomination ceremony right um i i wonder if there's an opportunity for i mean because not only just performing

it's also key to a stunt at there at like like i'm sure he's thought like it was the equivalent of the fake idle hide at tribal council does that exist now i i don't think it would be quite the same but I'm sure what he's thinking about is like, like, Evie makes a show like, you know, that thing you've been looking at all, all season, you know, he pulls something out of behind it as like a hidden immunity auto. He can pretend it is a hidden immunity auto. It's like, isn't the survivor twist for the season, right?

Expect something like that from Rick. I mean, because he's had nothing to do but being sequester for all this time. He's thinking of that stuff. That being said, though, I think that he is actually held back by Big Brother where Terrant, tell me if I'm off base on this, but if he tries to come in and like, hey, I've got this sock idol, this is, you know, I can pull myself off, that the Big Brother producers in a way that they will not do on Survivor will say you cannot use production as a strategy, right? Would they, if they asked, if they asked about that, if Rick Devons is saying he has a thing in the diary room.

Right, yeah. So it's a tricky line to balance, but basically it's especially if Big Brother has said there's a power and this person has it, but we're not telling you what it is. Or like, you can't pretend that your power does something that it doesn't. If you're trying to use Big Brother to back you up, Big Brother would be like, no, you can't use us as a strategy. You could take a globe and imply that it has power. I think you could, if you wanted to even try to claim that it has some power, as long as Big Brother's done nothing to imply that the Globe or you has power.

As long as he's not using production to back him up, he can make claims. I would say the potentially bigger downfall is that unlike Survivor, having a power on Big Brother, it depends on what the power is. Like if your power is, you can try to nominate me, but I'm immune, then people will be like, okay, great, I want to burn that. I'm going to nominate you. Now you're immune. Perfect.

I'll nominate someone else. So something more along the lines of like even just like an immunity idol like, okay, great, we'll just vote you out. And if it rebounds on somebody else, great. It's harder to bluff because of how narrow the elimination options are on Big Brother with the nominees. But I'm sure he's a creative guy. He can probably figure something out. Yeah. He's to work around tighter constraints than that.

Like I think with Survivor things. And I mean, Jeff's not going to back up your lie. I mean, Jeff, when he pull out the fake idol, they're like, is that an idol? like, I'm not a player. You know, just like I can't say anything. So, I mean, one thing that I'm sure that's going to come up is that, like, Surrey came into the house with a huge advantage having her son there secretly, right? And so he could bluff, I have a secret advantage.

Now, people might try to think it's like, you know, the fact that he gets to try to be HOH. He could bluff that it's like, oh, you know, my secret advantage is if I get to like the merge or whatever they call it in Big Brother, I don't know, if I make it. it to the jury phase, I get to impart a power upon a close ally. And that's the important shift that I have to give to them. Like, there's a bluff to get some further into the game. Like, that sort of thing I'm sure he's thinking of. One thing that I also could be in his favor is that they have teased that there is going to

be some kind of a vote where something that's going to affect the first six weeks in the game. I think that based off of his popularity coming off of Survivor 50, I do think that he would be in a very advantageous position to be able to win a fan vote in. this season. I think that that would be good, especially if it gives an alleged advantage, right? And he is also as Carpontch, like to say this is something Survivor themed. He's in the show with Survivor. He's on it because of the coin flip and all all his shenanigans. He can say that the show is trying to, he could plausibly sell that the show is trying to back them up with these shenanigans.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it's the fan vote thing. It said it will last six weeks, which definitely implies, you know, Big Brother Canada has done this in the past with a similarly mixed returning cast where they just gave somebody safety until jury. I don't think we'll do that, but like that's certainly possible. Six weeks would roughly track until maybe around the jury phase. Or it could, you know, there was a season where, funny enough, Rachel Riley's sister was on the season. And the audience often voted for, because every week, they voted. They voted for Rachel Riley's sister, Alyssa, to get a power to nominate somebody, which basically made Alyssa immune the entire time and a valuable asset to any alliance that wanted to nominate anybody they wanted. So, yeah, I would say, especially given how much I'm sure Big Brother wants Rick ND to stick around, that if there's a fan vote that impacts the game, it's more than likely to help Rick. Christian, how are you doing on time? You have time for some listener questions?

I do. I do. I do have some time. Okay. All right. Here is a question. This is from Jules 21. Christian, would you play Big Brother? Yes, if they gave me the prize money up front. Not interested for you. Three months is the big kicker. I mean, like five weeks I can swing during the summer. Like the sheer impact on just my job.

being gone for three months, which I enjoy and like to keep, is, is, is, is, is, is, the funny part is, like, it would be catastrophic. The funny part is, I, after my first season of survivor, I got to meet with the president of my university, whose, whose family are big survivor fans. And they're like, oh, Christian, Christian, it's nice to meet you. My wife wants to know, would you do Big Brother? And I'm thinking, you would have to fire me if I went on Big Brother. Was this, is this, is your plan? Do you not want me around? Just go on Big Brother and be gone? Anyway, so, logistically basically impossible. How surprised were you to see Jeff

pop up in the premiere? Extremely. Yeah. Extremely surprised. I mean, given, given, I think Jeff's, has Jeff been on record about what he says about Big Brother?

You know, when he said like, you know, oh, I think he'd be great on a Big Brother. I thinking, Jeff, do you not like Rick anymore? I thought this. I was like, is he insulting Rick? The perfect fit, really? Yeah. I was very surprised.

But Jeff read the letter, and I said to myself, well, at least it's not a letter from Jimmy Fallon. You know, I have that letter at home. I got to keep it for my letter from Jimmy Fallon. So that's in the archives for me. Okay. Do you think you could call in a favor from Jimmy Fallon to do a twist on Big Brother to help Rick?

If I could call it a favor for Jimmy Fallon, it would have been for the fan vote for $100,000 on the last season. I'm not getting any favors from him. Jen wants to know, Christian, are you still visiting Rick Devons' family? I am back from Rick Devin's family. I had a wonderful time seeing them. For those they didn't see, I got to post some videos with the Devin's during the premiere week. And it was a joy.

They're all doing well. And yeah, hopefully they're having a good time watching. Okay. This is from Anne who says, how will Rick do if he is on slop or a have-not? This is, I think he's going to do fine. Not survivors, we laugh at having that. Like, oh, I'm punished. I can only eat the slop.

My understanding is that they can only have black coffee when you have slop. You can have coffee, but it's black. He drinks black coffee. Like, that's his normal daily thing. Like, he's going to be fine. Yeah, you go from, you have no food to like, oh, you can only eat this nutrient dense porridge. well you gotta take cold showers that would you would that would be a reward on survivor i mean there's there's all those tropes about it but it's just like i mean we're no we're no frills people generally

speaking you know it's like like what i was on survivor like i wouldn't even sleep in the shelter if it wasn't if it wasn't raining i'd slept like by the fire in the dirt face down like and just you just deal with it and so like uncomfortable bed that's all going to be fine it's the length that I think is going to be a duration of the show. It's going to be a challenge for any survivor player. I mean, Rick can pull these stunts, but he knows that's not a sustainable path to victory.

But I think that one of the best thing that Rick's got going for him is, you know, I don't want to speak out of school, but this is not Rick's life dream to be on big brother. And therefore, he's okay if he, like, he's playing with house money here.

And like, you could have a fun time. That's when he's great. That's when he's best. He wasn't supposed to be on Survivor 50. He was an alternate. He got put on. It's like, well, heck, you know, I wasn't supposed to be here.

Why not go crazy? And he had a fun time. Yeah, I do wonder if I think that Rick looks at that as a perfectly viable outcome to burn bright and fast on Big Brother, make some moments, give people what they want. And if he happens to be back home before the jury starts, I think that that might be okay, too. I think, yeah, I think, you know, I think Rick, being at home with his family, you know, I think it has its own rewards for Rick. So, but not that he, Rick will always try. Rick never not tries. I mean, I talk with Emily, it's funny.

I was talking with Emily about like going on Big Brother and she laughed, of course. And it's like, because like, yes, you could go home early and, you know, not basically play. But I'm not, I'm never going to go on a show and not play. you know, why am I there? You know, anyway, Rick is the same way. I think Big Brother can sometimes surprise people. And it even happened to Rachel last season.

She'd done the show twice before. And just found herself, like, struggling at a moment and was like, I don't even know if I can do this. Like, it is, I think, a lot harder than people anticipate, especially because it's so long. And if you find yourself out of power for weeks and weeks on end and just you're just being dragged along or you just have nothing to do, it can get real tough.

But I think if anyone's like prepared to handle some tough times, hopefully it's Rick. But I think six days on the edge, I forget how long it was on the edge. But like that the edge probably sucked. But yeah. Christian, did you have any other questions about Big Brother that maybe we could answer for you? Yes. what is Meow Meow Industries? Yeah, so they're a pretty cutting edge company that's leading the way in time travel.

Back, you know, a few years ago, they dabbled in a time laser prototype that did some weird things, brought us to some weird like Christmas land or something. I don't fully understand what was going on with it. But clearly they've refined their technology. They've turned it into this table. And it seems like it's it's been working pretty well. Like they're kind of nailing exactly where they want to go. Well, first off, I'm waiting for their IPO so I can get in on that.

But secondly, I mean, they more or less, you know, confirmed D by giving the date of her, what was her winning Survivor 45 as like the date that they, that they transported to. Also, who did, did, here's the other thing. Could be Austin Lecun. What's that? Could be Austin Lee Coon. It could be grabbing Austin, perhaps. But I got to say, I love how some production assistant had to consult TrueDork Times to get the date that Rick Devons was voted out for that.

That's a big day for Jeff Pittman. That's all I'll say. Yes. Which date was it? Was it the date that he lost the firemaking challenge? Was that what they went back to or the date he was voted out of his original tribe? I believe it was in July. So it has to be the firemaking challenge for sure.

I would like to say, I think it would have been really fun. if they had given that Jeff was there and that maybe the, you know, it's easy rights swapping, but like if they had just green screened them on to the Survivor episode, uh, where Rick was like losing fire and they're like trying to prevent it from happening. And I think they should do that with D too. Like D win Survivor and they like like rush her off to Big Brother right away. I think that would be fun.

The only challenge with that is you, I think that they might have to get releases. Big Brother might have to get releases. from the people that they show. Now, I believe they showed clips of Surrey from Survivor when Surrey was on. So I think it's doable. Yeah. But I speak with malice of knowledge that people might have to sign releases to be shown on Big Brother if they were on Survivor.

If that was the case, canonically, that would be Dee leaving to go play Big Brother right after she won. And so it would not be the D that even knows Rick Devins that would be playing. season 50. This is all, we got some, like, some tenant shit going on. I think that's, um, listen, Rob, I'm sure Enzo can explain it all the way. I'm sure he understands the intricacies of the time travel paradox. Yes.

Uh, Christian, have you ever given any thoughts on the mechanics of the Zingbot as a roboticist? Well, I mean, the Zingbot has now been weaponized in, in, um, and the battlefields of the streets of America in the form of Rizbot. Yes. Rizbot is an actual robot that goes around, that trolls around in various, various sporting events and delivers various elements of Riz, some of which are zings, some of which are compliments, mostly zings.

And we know about social media following. So we have, you know, the technology has come a long way, Rob. Does the Riz bot also pass out in high heat? Oh, absolutely. I'll tell you, that's a real thing. Is that a thing that happened with the Zingbot? Is that a thing? Famously, Brittany Haynes has a great story about Zingbot passing out while giving Zings.

I mean, it's a real, you know, since I'm here and I'm wearing the robotics lab code here, I have to give robotics. That's a real thing in robots. Robots are just as limited as people. Their capacity of their motors and everything folds back when they heat up, they get overheated. Batteries behave differently. So there was recently a robot just broke the human world record for running a half marathon in China. And they had to dump dry ice on it at like different stops.

It's the cool it down. So it's a real thing. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes the person in the costume also gets completely having a heat stroke. Yes. You're implying that there's not that there's a person inside the Zingbot, Rob. You're telling me there's no Christmas?

The Q cancel it here too? Yeah. I heard that's how they did the racing thing, too. There was just somebody inside. So they were like, if they're in a robotic suit, it makes them run faster. It's just a, yeah. Is it Zingbot every season? Yes.

Because there's always a Zingbite. Is there always an Otev? Yes. Yeah. It's always yell about butter. No. Okay. All right.

Is there, so there is a jury. Yes. Yeah. Does the jury see anything? They get, okay. So this is, this is. this is controversial. They get sent footage, edited footage, of usually the ceremonies, sometimes bits of the

competitions, and also some goodbye messages generally that people record. But it is, it's pretty much like producers' choice what they decide to edit into those little bits of footage. Oh, fun. Yeah. Yeah. Are there periods where many people are ineligible for nomination? Like like like like you know,

like half the house is eligible for nomination. Oh, like a bloodline? Usually just at the start. Start. Okay. All right. Yeah. All right.

I got the background. I have two literal experts. This is what I'm using my time for to, to, to ask for these big brother of the questions I could have Googled. Thank you. Yeah. Christian. I do hope that we can continue to have this conversation over the course of the season.

You got it, Rob, but at some point, you know, my son is going to have to tap in and just give me the, give me the tearing updates here because like he's, he's enthralled. Yeah, the colors, the slime, the dinosaurs. I mean, it's really everything that a young one, you know, one year old. TV viewer could want. Can I say that when Rachel was unceremoniously murdered by a dinosaur, people seemed happy. People seemed happy and the other contestants are like, oh, that got she's gone. Yeah. Rachel, I think, remains somewhat controversial with the casual fan base and apparently is

very controversial with Angela herself. Yeah. Yeah. Angela seemed really happy. He has a curious one. I did hear that the same thing happened when Kyle got Medevac on season 50. Is that true? Oh, yes.

We were all cheering. I think I actually went into Camilla's face. I was like, he's gone, he's gone at the challenge, which thankfully they cut. Yeah. The people,

they are so thirsty for the win. They just feel like, okay, one less, it's like the hunger game. It's like one less person in my way to win this money. Oh, also,

it took me a minute when they went back in time. what is my life right now rob when they went back in time and uh and they went to which time you know to the first time when they when 80s when when the angela's passed i was like i thought it was d it's like is like is this d in makeup did they have her doing a character i was so confused it took me a while because i don't really know what angelo like i realized oh yeah angel has that sort of valley girl type accent i get it

took it was like i don't think he was alive at the time did they what that i don't think d was alive at the time no i thought I'm trying to think of like, what has happened? Deep was like a, like, I don't know. And then went to the bar. I was like, was D. Serving drinks when she was 11 at Las Vegas? It's like, I was deeply confused. But like, I mentioned it's like, oh, it's Rachel.

They strung me. They tricked me, Rob. They got me. I would love to see young Christian in some IP reality TV show. It would be the most unremarkable footage imaginable. Here's Christian in a linoleum lab lab, like sleep. under his desk, you know, it's like, you know, as he's like waiting for his code to compile or something. Yeah. I think I'd love that. Yeah, you're riveting. They would have you working on a

prototype of Zingbot, you know, like, uh, I think it would work. Yeah, yeah, again, prize money up front. That's all I'm saying. Chris, I know you've been in and out with Big Brother, but is, uh, your incredible wife, Emily? Is she a yearly Big Brother viewer? No, she, she in the face, I, it phased in and out at the same time. She was much more in, on Big Brother during that time. The thing that was troubling for her, she did the live feeds and the show, and it was new to her that the live feeds in the show

portrayed different things and felt like the show was like, you know, that was frustrating. And I think for her, she was like, I can't get this worked up over it. I have to take a break. So, like, here's my thing. I know I, not those amongst the fan base,

but I apologize, you know, might know that I'm not the biggest Big Brother fan. but I would in the abstract love to like consume all the live feeds like it seems like the live feeds game seems really interesting I just can't justify dedicating my life to the live feeds this is why we have taran yeah that's why you go to the live feed up to it with taran you get those live feeds so that that looks interestingly a long form strategic game where you see everything not the edited product is interesting that that's That's what I'll say.

That's the nicest thing I'll say about Big Brother. Yeah. That's a very accurate thing to say about Big Brother. Yeah. Okay. Well, Christian, this was so wonderful for you to stop by and talk about your thoughts about the great Rick Devin's. Would you call him the hero of Macon, Georgia? Yeah.

The pride of Macon, Georgia, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. I believe Macon has a Rick Devon's day. They had a Rick Devin's day. Really? What is it? Well, when you have days, they're only on a particular year.

So it's not like a drennial day. Like that day. That's the day they should have gone back in time to, Rick Devin's day. See, where's our check, Rob? Where's our check for consulting? We have all these great ideas. I could have consulted on the time laser. I could have consulted, you know, anyway, they could have licensed my patent on it.

But whatever, whatever, Rob, such as life. Yeah. Okay. You have anything you want people to check out? I know you have a lot of great social media videos where you're You're explaining all sorts of different science breakthroughs and interesting facts. Yeah, yeah, you can check me out on my socials at Chubicki, C-H-U-B-I-C-K-I or just my name on particularly Instagram, but now I'm cross-posting to even TikTok and Facebook and blue sky and all these things.

I just like doing fun science videos. So feel free to go go check them out if you want to learn. Like for instance, you know why the taser is called the taser? You know, people know this fact. You know, the taser has a weird, it's called, it's named after, it's called Thomas A. Swift's electric rifle. It's named after an old, yeah, it's, after an old children's book about where Thomas Swift invented an electric rifle and the guy, like, named it after this book.

And so the fun fact is that Thomas A. Swift, A, is not even his middle name. So there's your fun fact for why the taser is called the tasers. They fake that? What's that? I see, I thought it was short for time laser. Oh, well, you know, you can't do that with a Miamio Industries. Do you have a taser? No, they, well, they hold a patent on other devices that are named the same thing.

Yeah. Okay. If MiaoMiao Industries contacted you for some consultation, would you pick up the phone? Price money up front. Okay. All right. Well, Christian, thank you so much for stopping by. We appreciate you so much.

And I'll talk to you soon, okay? Take care. Okay. All right. And then, of course, for everybody else, who's here with us, Taryn, I know that you are about to be underway with live feed updates starting on Saturday. You're about to go into your lab and be watching live feeds nonstop. Yes, they start tonight and, oh boy. Here we go.

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