RHAP: We Know Survivor - Club Condo Survivor 48 Ep 8

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

Rob Cesternino and Chappell dive into the latest Survivor 48 happenings on this week's Club Condo....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody. What's going on? Rob Cicero back for some club condo and sorry for you if you're not watching because we got a ton of great stuff to talk about here with Chappelle. Chappelle, how are you? Huh? I'm good. Can we also just while we're here, can we say some other disparaging remarks about the people not watching or listening? Yeah. What do you want to talk about?
Starting point is 00:00:32 Who do we want to drag for not watching or listening? I got time. Yeah. To the people that aren't watching or listening, what's your deal? What are you, too good for a club condo? Jeff has said pretty much every episode that you should come listen to the podcast. I'm pretty sure, verbatim, he said something to the effect of, Club condo is officially a part of Survivor and I love it.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Was that the move? I didn't even pull the clip this week because I'm so spoiled that there's club condos every single week. He said it's officially a part of Survivor and I love it. Yeah. When we make the Club Kondo commercial for next season, you and I don't have to do anything. Just play the clip.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Roll the footage of Jeff Probst being like, what are you doing? You're sitting there on the couch. You're not doing anything. You're watching Survivor. Go listen to the Club Kondo podcast. And know what else is cute or whatever, but this is Jeff's favorite Survivor podcast. The Club Kondo ratings and I know it all is cute or whatever, but this is Jeff's favorite survivor podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:25 The Club Kondo ratings and comments are through the roof. So appreciate everybody. All of our new listeners who are joining us because of Jeff's constant promotion of Club Kondo on Survivor. Thank you, we appreciate you for being here. Make sure you hit that subscribe button as well for everything we're doing over here at Club Condo.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Chappelle, what's new with you? I mean, this Hoochie Mama Jeff is just obsessed with this and it's kind of incredible. As far as new for me, I'm, like I said, I'm in an interesting spot because every week I come in, I say I'm very excited about the season, it's doing things. And right now, I'm excited because the online community is getting spicy. I like when the fans are... What are you seeing? What are you tasting? I like when the fans are passionate about Survivor.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah, sure, I love like, oh, we should do the split here and we should do this. I love, whatever, that's cute. But I like when the fans really get on their high horse about like, the way the game should be played. Like, should it be the physical threads? Should it be, you know, like the nerds? Do they all come Like, is it, should it be the physical threads? Should it be the, you know, like the nerds?
Starting point is 00:02:27 They all come together. Do we care about the social game anymore? I like when the fans are passionate about the game, Survivor, not so much when they're mad at contestants for just existing, but when they're talking about the actual show we're watching and the quality of the show. And so I'm happy about that because, Rob,
Starting point is 00:02:43 from what I understand, the ratings have been, no, they haven't been as great. They haven't been that great in the last couple of episodes. So hopefully with this amount of passion, we see some bounce back for the next couple of episodes. Okay, now I have not tracked the TV ratings particularly as close as one survivor has, but yeah, check this out.
Starting point is 00:03:03 As Chappelle alludes to, our intrepid TV reporter on the scene, Say, had this to announce, said over on social media, also the ratings dropped, by the way. Without Cedric and Say? I'm not shocked. I'm not shocked at all. The ratings for Survivor might be down, but the ratings for Club Condo are always rising,
Starting point is 00:03:31 especially when we have so much Say content to talk about every week. Again, Say was such a lightning rod for confessionals, for drama, for the votes that I'm not shocked that he lost a little bit of energy, but this week, David, and some of his comments about, you know, what, you know, the, the downtrodder in this game, the marginalized communities in this game, taking back survivor and making it their own again. I feel like that's what I needed. I needed this type of mess to keep me going. I'm having a good time. Okay. Well, David has been one of the people
Starting point is 00:04:05 that is a front runner for this new type of Alliance on survivor, the Alliance, not of the outcast, the downtrodden, the weak and Alliance of the strong finally coming together to make a run in this game. And yeah, there was some pushback from some folks online About this but David also had a lot to say in order to speak up for himself First off he really highlighted the work of one Analyst in particular check this out Chappelle here is a David took to social media to say, I'll take the assessment of two professionals and experienced players over the keyboard warriors any day. If you want a good analysis of season 48, episode eight, listening to the broadcast
Starting point is 00:04:58 with Steven fishback, great analysis and re read on almost everything. Okay. Well, I listened to that podcast. It's no club condo, but it's fine. They can be saying stuff. Rob, you do a really good job of making sure that you don't lose Steven. But you know, David and Steven, they're aligned in a lot of ways. You know, Steven is very much all in on the, hey, this bring back hot people. Bring back hot people to Survivor. David objectively a muscular, attractive man probably that Steven could get along with, you know, in the game. We know Steven loves aligning with physical threats
Starting point is 00:05:33 and it always works out for him. Gets him far into the game every time he plays. And so I'm not shocked by this at all, but I just, I don't know. To me, David just doesn't have the data to support his claim that physical threats are just like, we're tired of getting used to shields. We're real players too. Rob, do you think he has a point here? Because I just don't see it. Robby Weisberg Yeah, I do think he has a point. I think that in terms of in the new era, I don't
Starting point is 00:06:01 think that there have been that many big, strong physical guys in a particular season. And so I think that what is rare about David and Joe in particular, and maybe Eva as the third is that the strong threats have not really ever banded together. They're typically, it's not so much the nerds and the game bots who are going after them, but often the big strong threats go after each other. Yeah, this happens. Sometimes it feels like, again, if you're running a race, you only have to beat the person that's slower than you. You got to, you know, sometimes like if you're running from a tiger, right, you got to beat
Starting point is 00:06:37 the guy behind you. And so for the physical threats, it's like, yeah, I'm probably gonna get picked off. There'd be a physical threat, but this other physical threat can go before I can, right? Like let's make him a target. And so I think there's something there. But, you know, I just think that this is a very physical cast, for one, in particular, versus most of the cast that we've had in a new era anyway. So it's like, if you're comparing it to the other cast, like, okay, let's say last season,
Starting point is 00:07:00 the big physical threats had to come together, and they were gonna take back Survivor. Okay, so you have Kyle, you have Gabe, you have TK, you got... Rachel? You know, Sam? You know, it's not the same. It's not the same as Captain America, the Rock,
Starting point is 00:07:17 and, you know, all these other people, you know, the Avengers that we have on this season. Um, so it feels a little different. And I'd say that in most seasons of the new era, you don't have this many just physically imposing people that you just know you have to get out at some point or they're gonna win it all. The seasons that do have physically imposing people,
Starting point is 00:07:36 I'd say that some of them go out, but then typically they will do well as well. So it's like, yeah, Jeremy Collins goes out early in San Juan del Sur. But I mean, look at that. There were other physical threats there as well, right? There's like, you know, the baseball guy, the- John Rocker. Yeah, yeah. These people exist, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Exactly. Other muscle people's around, you know, Cole Metters goes out relatively early in his season, but then you see Ben Dreberg and ends up winning that season. Chris Noble goes, but then Dom and Wendell basically walk to the end. I mean, Michael Yerga is there. He's a big guy, a muscular guy as well. John Hennigan's on the Goliath tribe, but I mean, there are other Goliaths there as well. Hot Cop Dan, Alec Merlino, ultimately Nick Wilson challenged me his way to a victory there. So it's like these people that you're saying are being used as shields, a lot of times
Starting point is 00:08:32 they're getting beaten by the other people who would get used as shields as well. So I just felt like, I mean, I just don't know what he's been expecting thus far, but whoever got in his head and told him, you know, the physical people need to take the game back. They did a really good job of giving him a strategy that seems to be working for him and Joe and Eva. And I'm happy that, you know, he's been able to identify a strategy and go with it. But it just sounds like, you know, like again, there's just not the data to support that. I just don't see it. Okay. Chappelle, first off, do you like the rebrand of Rob as a podcast with Stephen
Starting point is 00:09:05 Fishback? No. No. What? No. That's what I said. You do a really good job of keeping Stephen in the game, okay? Because Stephen just wants to start a Hot People podcast for you and by you. That's what he wants. Stephen's Hot People podcast. He wants to give out the fishy to the hottest survivor of the week. And so yeah, David's like, yeah, let's Steven run, let them cook. But yeah, you're there too. Okay. Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:09:34 So also here are some pushback from David in the replies that when I talked to Chrissy the other day, Chrissy said, no, no, no. That the picking of the people was nothing like what was on the show She said that Chrissy claimed that Joe said right off the bat I got Eva and it was not edited in the way that it was on the show Whereas David says that she that talking about Chrissy She also said that Joe and Eva picked each other first, which is quite literally wrong They were the last pick as represented in the edit.
Starting point is 00:10:07 So we got a real, he said, she said. We do. I mean, we have to go off of what we actually see on the screen because as you know, from a host of Rob has a podcast, Steven Fischbach, these exit interviews are not canon. Not canon. Yeah. And so we have to go with David on this one. But I mean, Joe and Eva don't have to choose each other in this round for us to know that
Starting point is 00:10:29 they're a tight pair because literally every other moment they've had in the game, they've chosen each other quite publicly in front of everybody. And so yeah, I think there's kind of like splitting hairs when it comes to, oh, this is a revealing thing about these alliances, at least for Joe and Eva. I think we've all been calling that for a very long time. And it's pretty obvious to the people out there as well. OK. Also, David had another post that was a little cryptic, Chappelle. Do you think you could get to the bottom of this one?
Starting point is 00:10:57 Oh, let me. David said, People will provoke you until you two must exhibit strength and then play victim when you do. They are the true gaslighters. Now I had this same exact message in my fortune cookie this weekend. And how does that work out for you? Very wise. You feel like you could take this one? You can use this? People will provoke you
Starting point is 00:11:25 Until you too must exhibit strength and then play victim when you do they are the true guess So is this a social media take or is this a response to the people in the game? I feel okay So my knee-jerk reaction is that this is a response to the people in the game Because Chrissy has the luxury of being In this position where she can get in front of the tribal council and say, no, we have to target these people. We have to target the strong people. And David probably feels like, okay, but as a strong person, I'm not allowed to defend
Starting point is 00:11:52 myself because then I'm yelling at her and telling her that her way of playing the game is not valid when I feel like she's telling me my way of playing the game is not valid. Now I disagree with that, obviously. I feel like, yes, Chrissy is on her way out of the door, so she's doing everything that she can to put the blame on you, David, and the strong people, because that's what she should be doing. And David, as somebody who is a front runner, yeah, you can definitely feel like we need to take the game back. I think my issue here is that you shouldn't be saying it. You should be saying, no, we're down to work with everybody. That's what you're talking about. There is no strong
Starting point is 00:12:22 person alliance. But for you to sit there and be like, Chrissy, you're going home. We're back, baby. We're taking this game back to the way it was supposed to be played. Taking the strong, iron sharpening iron, coaching somewhere at home, like fist pumping. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. We'll get to him in a little bit. Yeah. I feel like just that's the mistake is that you shouldn't be saying this. The smaller and weaker people physically should not be like, should not know that that is your mantra. Your mantra should be, no, there's no alliance. This is there's no hierarchy. There's no ranking.
Starting point is 00:12:54 It's like a chain, Rob. It's not, you know, it's like, OK, we got links, different links between these two people. But there's no person above the next person. The chain can connect in a circle. It can connect in a circle. Exactly. You get it. And so, yes, this is not what he's saying though.
Starting point is 00:13:11 He's like, sorry, Chrissy, you're down and whoever else is weak is next too. You know, a float is glad for a life vest or something like that. That's the energy it gave. And so you can exhibit strength, but you have to know that there has to be some tact in this game because as Camilla points out, jury votes will be decided later on. I really felt like this last trial of council, it definitely was giving sort of like a like big brother 22 type situation of like there's a big group of people.
Starting point is 00:13:39 There's people at the bottom of the big group of people who know they're at the bottom of the big group, but they're afraid to make a move. And it's like the one person who's on the outs is like the person has the courage to like, I'll tell you what's going on around here. And everybody's like, goodbye, unanimous vote. Yeah, I agree. It's the same exact way. Like these, look, these physical people, they're bonded by a higher cause.
Starting point is 00:14:03 You know what I'm saying? Some of this is bigger than Survivor. This is basically the physical cookout. It's like, yeah, we didn't have to make the Strong Alliance. The Workout Alliance. The Workout Alliance, we don't have to talk about it. It's unspoken. We have all these other lines, but deep down, we're just going to try to give a marginalized community a chance to win the game. They're playing for a bigger cause and that bigger cause is huge biceps. The guns, the abs, they're playing for the games, the pump, you know. I just feel like they looked at the new era and they said, huh, the Ericas, we got your jam jams, you know, it's like, it's like these people could be physical
Starting point is 00:14:45 threats, they could win immunity, but they ain't us. And so for the first time in the new era, this community has to stand together for a higher power and what are we going to do? We can't, you know, I can't, I can't knock them for advocating for themselves. So you go, David. I just really feel like, you know, a little tone deaf, that's all. Yeah. Well, Chappelle, in fairness, that they're doing it for the people out there who look like them, who are looking at the show and saying like, hey, you know, I've never seen a person who looks like me win the game. Yeah. I mean, if you just started watching during COVID, then no, you have not. So maybe, and we know so many of them have just started watching their COVID. In fact, David, you
Starting point is 00:15:30 know, famously could not point out Jeff Brooks if he wanted, if he needed to out of a lineup. And so I think that, you know, maybe he knew who he was. I don't think he knew his last name. Yeah. He's like a Jeff Cogan, Jeff Chet. One of them people. One of those Jeff guys. One of the Jeffs. Yeah. Okay. So, Chappelle, let me also bring in a social media clip also because now I very sadly did not get to go to the Ron Clark Academy this past week, but Ron Clark does a great event.
Starting point is 00:15:59 That place is amazing. I know. He told us about it when he was on the podcast a couple of weeks ago. One of the great interviews I've had this season. by the way, Kelly Wentworth interview also coming soon. That's going to be the next podcast I do after this one. So we'll check in with Kelly Wentworth and see what she has to say about all of these things. But check out this. And this is from a clip of my guest from last week's old school interview, Sandra Diaz Twine talking with the great Carolyn
Starting point is 00:16:28 weaker. Okay. And Carolyn was at the Ron Clark Academy and she had a run in with David. Let's listen to this story. Who is Nick? Nips the guy with four nipples! Really just hit my... like that's not what she said. Muscle-y nipples all over! That's not what she said. Is that like a office type thing? I don't know. I don't know what's happening. Start it over. Yeah, okay. Alright, here we go. Here's Sandra and Karen. Who is Nick? Nips, the guy with four nipples. Really just hit my... like that's not what she said. Muscle-y nipples all over. And then he says like, your time is over. He said your time is over to you? Yep. It's not over, Nips. No, it ain't. I'm just getting started.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Oh my god. No, that's right. Yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah.. Oh my God. No, that's right. Yeah. I don't know about that. Yeah. I love Sandra being like, well girl, okay. You know what I'm saying? I know that's right. Yeah. So, David has thrown down the gauntlet against the Carolins of the world.
Starting point is 00:17:36 He said, this quirky social game player, you know, that people underestimate, your time is up. Oh, I thought not even literally Carolyn, the Carolyn types of player, your time is up. Oh, I think not even literally Carolyn, the, the Carolyn types of player. Your time is off. Yeah, I think so. I think this is bigger than just Carolyn because don't get me wrong. Helm tried to end Carolyn's reality TV career right off the heels of her, you know, amazing run on the traders and her massive popularity is wild. But I think it's more to say that, you know, the Davids are here now.
Starting point is 00:18:06 The Davids are now the Goliath Rob. They've evolved and they will not stand for these other types of game players as, who was it? Was it, oh man, well, I can't even remember which survivor said this damn quote, but we're pushing the nerds back into the lockers. You know what I'm saying? Oh, that's Korog, that guy. Yeah, we're pushing the nerds back into the locker, as you know I'm saying. Oh, that's a oh, that's Korog.
Starting point is 00:18:26 That guy. Yeah. Kyle Jason. Yeah. No, Kyle Jason. Yeah. He's like, we're pushing the nerds back into the locker. The brains are going back into their holes and the and the brawn are here to stay. Yeah. OK. Well, we'll see if it holds this time. We'll see. Now. We have seen games like this played before. And look, and I want to speak on that a little bit too.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I think David feels like people are like upset with him for playing this type of game. If this type of game works for you, go for it. It's just not fun to watch on TV. It's boring. I shouldn't know who's going to go home at the beginning of the episode of Survivor. And it goes along with the end of the episode of Survivor.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Even when we don't see the vote flip back to Chrissy, nobody asked any questions. We were like, oh, they probably just changed their mind. There was no inciting incident. It was just like, it was gonna be Chrissy. People were like, if she hadn't ran her mouth last week, like no, she probably was still gonna go because she's not in that alliance. And that's just how these things go. So it's like, in order to keep the game fresh and fun, we like to see wild swings in the game. We like to see things go the opposite direction. If you're listening to this and you're about to go play Survivor, do that. Play poorly.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Let us have something that we can talk about every week. But if you want to play an optimal game for someone like David, that's probably what he's doing. And so I'm not going to knock him too much on that, but don't get mad at us for being bored. You take your money and go. Okay, Chappelle, this week, we're going to see what is the fallout from all this.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Do you think that we're going to see a shakeup following this week's nine to one vote? Yeah. How do you not want to shake this up if you're Shaheen, right? Like, oh my gosh, Shaheen is like, you're the target essentially here. They're targeting Chrissy and they're targeting Camilla because they think that Shaheen is good with her. And to me, I'm like, for me, if I'm him, I'm like, okay, that means you're coming after
Starting point is 00:20:21 me. Now, they don't realize this. Shaheen probably incorrectly doesn't realize this as well, but Kyle and Camilla is the actual pair here. But now Kyle has some ammo. He knows that they're coming after his girl. Camilla has some ammo because she knows that she is the one that you're trying to get. And Shaheen, who thinks he's in a tight-tie with Camilla, he also has a reason to flip
Starting point is 00:20:42 at this point. So maybe there's some space for Mitch and star to make some moves against the majority physical Alliance. But at the same time, Eva has an advantage and survivors doing some weird stuff with this advantage as far as I'm concerned. So I'd love to see if it actually turns out to do anything moving forward. Yeah. I guess she doesn't even technically have the advantage. She has to go get it. Go get it tomorrow night. That's kind of boring to me. Not so much that like she has to go get the advantage because whatever. But in the past, I was fine when they're like, you got to go get it tomorrow
Starting point is 00:21:14 night. That's really a nothing. I think there's one, one time where they're like, okay, you let's get a torch and go into the middle of the night into the forest and get your advantage. Was that a chair? So they've done it a couple of times where, Jeremy Collins just had to walk down the beach. He just walked in the forest. Yeah, I'm like, that's nothing. Go get it. They did the Vince sly. And also, I think that Sarah Lucina had to do it too of like, go to the sneak into the other camp at night time.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Oh, that's the wrong Vince. I'm sorry, Vince Moa? Yeah. Maoa, I think it is. Yes. Yes. Wrong Vince. Yes. But that's the more entertaining version is, you know, Moa? Yeah. Mawa, I think it is. Yes. Yes. Wrong Vance. Yes. But yes.
Starting point is 00:21:48 But that's the more entertaining version is, you know, get the soot from the fire and put it on your face and then crawl out of there. That's pretty cool. And go get an ember. That's pretty cool. But the Jeremy thing, not to continue this strong person bias, but he just walked down the beach and was like, oh look, an advantage for me. So that's why I say I typically am not that excited by this kind of thing,
Starting point is 00:22:10 but I do find it fascinating that Survivor is leaning into this like, we want the physical people to do well now. We've cast David, we cast Joe, we've got Evil on the same season, we've cast Kyle who's not physical. I think that even some of the pre-emergers, like we talked about, Kevin could have been very physical in these challenges as well. Well, how about this also, Chappelle? Then they gave an advantage to the person that won the challenge. And they made somebody who lost the challenge lose their vote. Rob, it's like, we want you to start winning, shit. Because if you win a challenge, then you can get an advantage. And if you lose a challenge, you could possibly lose your vote. I feel like if anything was saying, we're back in on hot physical people,
Starting point is 00:22:50 this was the episode where we really planted our flag. Are they correcting the wrongs of what? Season 46, was season 46 pretty anti-physical people? I don't know, Maria and Charlie and Q had like all deep runs in the season. I don't know who's anti-physical people. Right. And I think they actually did have like a big strong person alliance too that just didn't stick together. You know, it didn't really stay. And so, yeah, I don't know. I don't know why Survivor is doing this, but yeah, I think they're all in on like, let's
Starting point is 00:23:22 start rewarding people for being more physical. And I will give them this, they haven't done that in a while. So it was a nine to one vote and I did see some people getting upset about, you know, why didn't the people on the bottom try to flip this thing? And so let's check in with your guy Mitch, who was on the receiving end. What's going on? Why didn't we flip it? Mitch says, who voted for Chrissy, we didn't have the numbers. And I'm sure the response is like, I mean, I had the numbers last week. Yeah. But, you know, it's so funny because it feels like so much has changed.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Right? funny because it feels like so much has changed, right? Like there is like what happened in the last roughly 48 hours that has led uh Chrissy and them from being like you need to make a move but not this week to no no no now now now now is the time to make a move no no no no what are you doing it's like if you felt that strongly like two days ago no like it's been a very long time you felt that way you, roughly 40 hours ago. I think that might've been the chance to make the move, no? When it was the tribal council where they sent Say Home? Yes, Say and Cedric.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Because Chrissy is in, that's where Chrissy is noted in that tribal council saying, at some point, you gotta start backstabbing. It was only 24 hours ago. It was only the day before. Right. So it's like Chrissy, if you're, if you, you're doing the whole like, you got to start backstabbing. It was only 24 hours ago. It was only the day before. Right. So it's like Chrissy, if you're doing the whole like, we need to make a move. We need to make a move. We need to make a move. And they say, oh, so you're trying to make a move tonight? And she goes, nah, you know, later, you know, later. It's like, I feel like if later is tomorrow, then tonight might be the time. I don't know. Again, I've already told you, Strategy on
Starting point is 00:25:03 Survivor is not my strong point, my strong suit. But yeah, if you don't have the numbers today, it sounds like you could have had them yesterday. Yeah. Okay. Well, the people were on Mitch, including a survivor alumni, Rick Devins, who responded to Mitch and said, now the numbers are worse though. Someone else at the bottom should have stood up with Christie and said, look the numbers are worse though. Someone else at the bottom should have stood up with Christie and said, look, they are telling us the plan. Now's the time
Starting point is 00:25:30 to make our move. Right now. It doesn't get easier after we lose a number. Survivor 38 episode eight is a nice reference. You're being such a passenger, Kyle. Yeah. Yeah. Such a passenger. I mean, Rick's not wrong. He's not wrong. He's saying, you know, if you think the numbers are bad now, are you just hoping they will magic to get better? I love Mitch. I think that Mitch is a potential...
Starting point is 00:25:55 I really would like to see Mitch just start winning some immunities because I think that will shake up this alliance because one, Mitch not being in the strong person alliance just feels like, yeah, I feel like that's a mistake. Because we've seen Mitch in challenges and Mitch don't miss. So I'm thinking that we could be due for something like that. But yeah, Rick is not wrong. Last week you had the opportunity to vote out anybody and you chose Cedric? You know who would be in the Strong Person Alliance ever?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Cedric. You know what I'm saying? Never. In a million years, would he ever get that call? So maybe, don't vote him out. He's never going to win anything. You can get him later on. Same thing with Say.
Starting point is 00:26:34 She's such a nuisance. Oh my gosh. Look, where is she going to go? How is she going to affect you negatively in the game? Y'all should be working together because these people who have very noticeable final two, who's, you know, Joe and Eva, or who looked as though they could physically do whatever they wanted and maybe like a Kyle or even David. So I don't know, or Shaheen even. So I don't know. I just feel like people were saying what Chrissy was saying last week and it's might be a little too late for some
Starting point is 00:27:02 people. I think that things are going to flip around this week. I do think that we're going to see at the final nine, historically a big vote. I think that we're going to see this big strong group start to fracture. I hate predictable survivor. And so I actually kind of like don't shoot, but I'm kind of against that. I, cause I think the predictability is there. Like I think for us seasoned watchers, we're like, yeah, but it's going to switch.
Starting point is 00:27:26 It's going to flip. This is the chance to make a move. Shain has every incentive now to make the swap. Mary, who is on the periphery of this strong person alliance, probably should be flipping as well. But Eva could have this advantage, and we don't know what it is. So maybe Eva's advantage shuts it down. I know that would make a lot of people
Starting point is 00:27:45 very angry because they were hoping that the people at the top end up at the bottom of these alliances and things switch over. But I think for me, that's the least predictable version of Survivor is that there's a thing that's about to happen and Eva shuts it down. And I like to see the world burn. So that's kind of what I'm rooting for. OK. Chappelle, going back to say, after the episode, she commented on the ratings. She also said this. She said, this episode could have been an email. Where have we heard that before, Rob?
Starting point is 00:28:21 What podcaster just pretty much has that tattooed on his ass? That's me. That's me. I love telling somebody that we could have just, we could have skipped to the end of this. I mean, essentially this is the ending of the last episode too. It was Chrissy saying, we got to make a move. We all are playing the game.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Oh yeah. Now here we are not playing the game. I mean, it's too late. I mean, don't get, everybody says the same thing. They're not playing the game with you. They're not playing the game with you in mind. You're not in the majority of lines, but Chrissy said that last episode. And so that was the chance. I think some people will fall victim to that, but there's always a chance for things to flip and to switch. But with the way Survivor passes out all these alliances, I mean, these advantages
Starting point is 00:29:03 and stuff like that in the late game, who knows? She might, I don't know. There's anything that can happen. I'll say that anything could happen. Okay. Going back to the Ron Clark Academy and here's say with another person from this season. Here's a Instagram story of charity with say in the game game, dot, dot, dot, insufferable. In real life, I'll protect her at all costs. I love a good pre-jury alliance. I appreciate this. I think that both of them have had some very critical things said about them throughout
Starting point is 00:29:42 the season. And so for them to come together and say, you know what, maybe we don't play survivor well together, but in real life, we could put some of these differences aside and I too would protect say at all costs. I get it. Okay. Well then here is from say's post to the same picture that save rights. I'm her only friend by the way. Dear God. Stay did not vote charity out, right? She voted for Cedric.
Starting point is 00:30:10 She voted for Cedric. That's right. I mean, so the data supports was exactly what she said. The two of them both wanted to vote out Eva. They couldn't come together. No, no, no, no, no, no. Eva is so fun to talk about as a survivor player because in the preseason, she said, I'm not working with these women.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And then every episode she is going to show that she absolutely is not. I love a survivor who can call their shot. This is my strategy and I'm sticking to it. And yeah, stay mad. But she told y'all at Ponderosa that this is the game that she was about to play. It just, can't nobody stop her. Right now she's running circles around y'all now. She calls her shot.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah, but how it ends will be interesting. You know, I don't know what it just your knee jack reaction. Do you think Eva could beat Joe in like a final three? I don't think that Eva could be Joe in the final three. I think that there are scenarios where Eva can win in the final three, but I don't think that if she sits with Joe, especially when during that moment, when it was Joe who brought, like, I mean, she would have to really dazzle the rest of the way, but I think that people are going to look at Joe as being the person who is the more, the person that has brought more leadership to the pair. If I'm voting somebody out, I'm going after Eva every first, every time. Because I feel
Starting point is 00:31:22 like if you vote out Joe, let's say Joe falls and Eva of course is not going to be in on voting Joe out and he won't be in on voting her out. But then that gives you that one person on the jury who's gonna advocate for them. And then that also gives the other person that winner like narrative that like they could just make it, they're the underdog.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I think Eva, if she makes it to the final three after Joe goes, then she's won a couple of challenges to get herself there. And that's one of those things like you don't wanna sit next to that at the jury at all. But with Joe, I could see Joe kind of like, him losing Eva and then being in the game, I could see him kind of stumbling his way into the final three. Where he's not exactly a priority, but because he's now kind of been defanged and he gets
Starting point is 00:32:00 there in more like a Mike Turner situation, right? Where he gets there and he's able to talk about his game, but he doesn't really know the strengths where somebody who could probably pull some strings under the radar and get there with him. I think they have a better chance of beating Joe. But together, you're right. I think that Joe beats Eva if they make it there together. Okay. All right, Chabelle, this was something that got flagged for me this week. And I want to get your take on it where there's been some talk. They announced the cast of survivor versus the world. We talked
Starting point is 00:32:31 about it last week. And so here is Logan from Twitter, who holds up the picture of poverty and then says that basically every time thatati is on survivor, there is some kind of recession that happens 2007 to 2009. They lump in three seasons into the great recession of two between 2006, 2008 and 2010, then point to 2020 and then 2025 Australia versus the world. I don't think you can get, give three seasons to one recession from 2007 to 2009, especially when here's where his villains is in 2010. Right, right. It's after that. But when did it film, Rob? Is that the, you know, did it film in 2009?
Starting point is 00:33:26 It did film in 2009. See, see, that's different. That's different. So there's some overlap there. Is Parvati the Great Recessioner? You know, is that, is this her biggest skill? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:34 She's going to be on Australian Survivor vs. the World. And so that's going to be fun. But maybe the recession will happen, no disrespect to the rest of the world, but maybe to them. I'm good. I was there for all of them. I was there for all of them. I was there for all of them. I was there for all of them.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I was there for all of them. I was there for all of them. I was there for going to be fun. But maybe the recession will happen, no disrespect to the rest of the world, but maybe to them. I'm good. I was there for all of those other recessions. I don't need that again. Like maybe the world can have this one. I'm done. Bring it to the world. Yeah. Bring it to the world, not us. I mean, like, don't get me wrong. We're part of the world. Group USA would be in there. What is it? New Zealand, South Africa as well. But I don't know, let the Australians have it. It's okay. David just won $5 million, which is more in Australia too.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Let the Aussies carry it. They got this next one. Hiring the global economy. Okay. Shabelle, here was another viral tweet from the Survivor World this week, where this is a tweet from Mike. Shit.
Starting point is 00:34:25 He says, never let anyone tell you that Survivor is fake. And so you see then Spencer from Survivor Second Chances at the start of the game. And then here he is very late in the same game of Survivor. Is this the same season? Like, are we sure this is the same game of survivor. Is this the same season? Like are we sure that the season, because I don't think that they would describe him as being from Kagi on in Kagi on the first picture from Kaga on to the second picture for the second, because it just seems like he's been through the ringer in this one. Dear God. Yeah. He has been through the ringer, but yeah. Yeah. He has been through the wringer, but yeah. Yeah. Is anybody saying that survivor was fake?
Starting point is 00:35:09 Back in your day, they used to say it was built on a sound set. Well, you, well, you, okay. When you applied for survivor, you completely, you were completely all in on this is real, but did a tiny party you think you were going to pull up and they'd be like, all right, it's not real. No, no. But I was like a big super fan. I like knew all this stuff. Yeah. You had done your research. Did Survivor get harder? Like maybe like, can we find a picture of me like day one, not day one strokes, day one of Survivor the Amazon and day 38 of Survivor the Amazon? I never turned down an opportunity to listen to look at Rob and the wife beater, you know, like, like with the machete or the wife beater, you know, like
Starting point is 00:35:46 with the machete or without the machete. You know, there's probably something there. No one is saying Survivor is fake now, but look, that's a different time. That was, you know, that was real Survivor. This abbreviated abridged Survivor, you know, is not the same. I don't think anybody comes on the season looking like Spencer and leaving like Spencer in the new era. I will say that, you know, I personally don't have a preference between 26 and 39 days. I don't care. Um, well, it'd
Starting point is 00:36:16 be pretty difficult to go in looking like that and ending like that now. Oh, she, there's a knock on the club condo podcast door. Let's check it out. Who is it? You talking shit, Chappelle? Oh, it's Omar. For 20ish days. Yes. Hi, Omar. Omar, what do you think about this? Did you ever think that Survivor was fake before you saw these two pictures of Spencer from the beginning of Survivor? You definitely didn't look like that after your season, Omar. How dare you. I never thought Survivor was fake as soon as Richard Hatch won, right?
Starting point is 00:36:55 They didn't want that. They didn't know what they needed. They wanted Rudy to win. If it was fake, he would not have won that season. That is a fact. Yeah, it would have been Rudy. That's That is a fact. Yeah. Yeah. It would have been Rudy. That's right. So what's going on? They started rigging it once Amazon hit, you know, then they got the winner they wanted. They want this guy. Yes. Yeah. For sure. Okay. What's, what's new? I'm coming to you live
Starting point is 00:37:21 from your old home Los Angeles. Yeah, you know, I was in the... We went with my kids. We went to an arcade yesterday. And I saw on the TV, I could have sworn, I saw your sister on a commercial for Jeopardy. Yes, we're in the midst of filming right now, so can't... No spoilers, no spoilers, but I'm here. I'm here with my DP I just didn't bring any ice and you shouldn't either, you know Save me No, no ice in the die Pepsi
Starting point is 00:37:55 Not not right now. Okay All right Omer question. How many days did you last on survivor? 23 23 we lost 25 pounds. So that's that's oh wow Omar, question, how many days did you last on Survivor? 23. 23. And we lost 25 pounds, so that's a pound a day. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:11 So you're like a pretty big Survivor historian. How many other iconic players pre-New Era lasted 23 days? Who's like on your life? Who's in the club? Okay, that lasted 23 days or early abouts? OK, well, in the early days, we were working on day 24. So we're going to have to go with Kelly Goldsmith, Alicia Calloway, Greg Buiss.
Starting point is 00:38:38 OK, OK. Anybody else? I mean, those are all iconic names. But I'm trying to, who is the most iconic man? Because those are all iconic names, but I'm trying to who who is the most iconic man? Because those are fine. What do you got from like who was who was out like 20 day 24 from Thailand or Thailand? That would be Aaron Collins.
Starting point is 00:38:55 What? He doesn't miss these. These are the Omer types is what I'm talking about. OK, yeah, yeah. So we should do Jeopardy like this and I make bank. Yeah. I mean, so Robert Jeopardy is made for you, sir. I think you'd clean up. I think that nobody else would have a chance. What do you think about the show this week, Omer?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Why don't they do something at the bottom? Poor things. Yeah. I mean, ever really at the bottom. Do you even know how it feels? When I was, I didn't know that was the problem. You you know what? You had put me at the bottom where I knew I was at the bottom. I would have been like a honey badger.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Like they you know, I would have embarrassed myself. I would have lost all dignity. Yeah. Would you have been like Chrissy? 10 times 10. Yeah. I would not go down Chrissy? 10 times 10. Yeah. I would not go down without the house coming with me. That's for damn sure. Yeah, I do feel like that that's part of my like survivor regrets
Starting point is 00:39:54 where you know, I went out on Survivor All-Stars and I got blindsided on a five to one vote. I do wish I would have known that I was going out. I think I would have like, like I couldn't play the shot in the dark. I couldn't do anything about What would you have done? I would have loved to have been like, oh Really like that's rich. What would you have said to Robin Amber and Susan? They're gonna do it I probably would have said I don't think I would have said had any ill will towards Sue Hawk I felt like that she wasn't calling the shots
Starting point is 00:40:25 or Well, maybe that's the person you should have been mad at because she should have been working with you then. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that maybe that that should have been maybe she didn't see herself in that position. Would you have pulled out the finger? Yeah. Um, I think I probably would have been intimidated. I don't think I would have.
Starting point is 00:40:42 But I think overrides a good point though. If you're at the bottom, yeah, Rob, you're right. If you're at the bottom and you know it, then you're in a unique spot to where you're not being blindsided. People can't say you weren't willing to make a move. And then you can go out like shaking your fist and being like, if you would just come with me, we could have done something to stop this. You know, Asia was on Survivor and she kind of goes out in that spot, right? Where she's like, what are y'all doing?
Starting point is 00:41:04 What are we going to do? And we're like, Asia was right. Asia was on Survivor and she kind of goes out in that spot, right? Where she's like, what are y'all doing? What are we going to do? And we're like, Asia was right. Asia was right. Now don't get me wrong. It got her nowhere. But at least she got to do that instead of going. Are you still a Genevieve hater, Chappelle? Is that still?
Starting point is 00:41:14 I'm not Genevieve hater. I'm a Laval hater. Everybody on that tribe, except for Asia can go. Everybody. All of them. So Chrissy, I feel like this week did get a lot of people like standing her on social media. I felt like I saw some of that of like, yes, yes, Queen, you tell them.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah. But according to Twitter, you and Stephen Fishback are famously anti Chrissy. No, we're anti Chissy, not Chrissy Everybody's podcast has a What was the take on the the whole who was right David or Chrissy cuz I have an opinion Um, oh, it says he's right and Chrissy says she's right. So, I don't know I don't really have a take on like who actually is right. What do you think Omar? Well, I mean, I'm in Los Angeles right now So I've got to say that David's right Okay, but what I will say is why are all these people on the top being so
Starting point is 00:42:15 Judgy for the people on the bottom trying to play the game Mm-hmm. Yes, like that make them wrong That nobody's just gonna sit down where they're getting put down, you know, so yeah But but all my oh, all right, aren't they just doing that same thing? Did you just say aren't they sitting down while they're getting put down like sure Chrissy is not but I mean the next They're lined up so yeah, can I just Ask you Omer this week So can I just ask you, Omer, this week they did the get a grip challenge hanging on the poll. And Jeff talked about that challenge. He said, perhaps our most iconic challenge,
Starting point is 00:42:55 get a grip, agree or disagree. No, it's not the most iconic challenge. Maybe top 15. Give us like a strong five, yeah. Hands on the Idol. Yep. Quest for Fire. That, oh pause. That, okay, that shit cute.
Starting point is 00:43:15 That's from 50 years ago. Like is that really? Okay, douche, you could have, you're listening to them on the new, oh, that's too boring for television. It's not it? No, no, that's too boring for television. It's not. Ain't it? No, no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:43:27 It's not. I mean, it still slaps on Australian Survivor. The irony is that most of the Survivor's most iconic challenges, they don't do anymore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Speak on it. Touchy subjects.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Okay, that's a good one. How about the hubble one? Sumo on it. Touchy subjects. Okay. That's a good one. How about the other one? Sumo at sea. Yes. Oh. You know what? Jeff even came out to say that he doesn't like those challenges.
Starting point is 00:43:55 They make the contestants too angry. The thing is, that's crazy. There is a way to do these physical challenges without causing a medevac every five seconds. Sumo at sea was not a bad one. And I'll tell you right now, I was read deep for a sumo at sea. I was a little bit worried. I saw Jonathan. I was like, I'm going to get fucked. But then I saw your team, Romeo and Daniel. I was like, right now, let's go. Maybe could you call Romeo and see if he'll come to the hotel to do sumo at sea with the pillows. Do you think that you can do that? I mean, I'll bring the pillow. We've still
Starting point is 00:44:29 got probably at least 25 minutes on this podcast. If you can get them over. I mean, Zach Wordberger also is probably nearby. Lure him over to this hotel. And if all's pretentious, text him and see, Hey, would you, do you want to do some sumo with me in this hotel? I have pillows. You think Romeo knows what sumo at sea is? I mean, Zach knows. My favorite, my favorite sumo at sea moment is definitely, uh, Misty and Baylor. When she's like, damn, I got to beat my daughter ass. Yeah. And then she like hits her. She's like, imagine, imagine
Starting point is 00:45:07 I'm more of the ex-husband's mom. And then she hits her in the face and makes her bleed. For someone that shows up all the time, she didn't really show up to that challenge. Well, then she was like checked out after she made Missy bail her bleed. Yeah. They put that on TV. They put this woman on TV telling her mom to pretend that she's one of her ex-husbands and then she hit her in the face. Like, excuse me. Yeah. I mean, was that the first sign of Survivor getting soft?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Because we saw Laura and Sierra and Laura didn't give a fuck. She just knocked her daughter's ass in. Yeah, I'm trying to think if they did some more past that point. That might have been the last time we did it. That might have been the one that broke it for sure. I'll ask when were it tonight. Yeah. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Yeah, but they had, even at Winners at war, they had a physical challenge with the little, you know, the thing they had to the opening one with the ring. Yeah, they'll do like some sort of like wrestling, but that's not Sumo. Not in the new era. Yeah. Yeah, not in the new era. I was again, ready for the ring. They said y'all.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I was gonna dump Zach's head in the water, just like remember when Eric flipped Amanda? All right. I was ready. Oh, my. One other one that I think is iconic that you don't really do anymore. Gross food eating. We did get we did get the boot talk. It's actually not it's not gross. It's not called gross food challenge anymore. It's international delicacies.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Okay, sure. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no're like, yeah, that's not cool. But when they're like adding hot sauce and milk and all the little curses, that's not delicacy anywhere. Yeah. Robert, how did it feel to eat a grasshopper? It was very dry. It was very dry. Yeah, like Jeff couldn't get like the Pearl Islands, like a wheel of like, okay, we're making a disgusting shake. Who's insulted by that? Fish guts and milk, David would be like, oh. It didn't even sound that bad. Like an octopus with some mango juice and some sea water? That sounds delicious.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah, Michelle Tassara was like, give me. Yummy. What a fubble. She lasted about 23 days, didn't she, Omar? The 15 to hell. I'm just saying, y'all made it to about the same spot. I believe, to be fair, I believe that Chrissy made it to the same day as Michelle to Sarah. I believe that this was what we just saw was night 15 on survivor 48. Michelle could have
Starting point is 00:47:39 made the merge. She would have been on the jury. She was in the second juror. She played now. So she had voted for, she would have voted for Lillian, was in the second juror. She played now. So she would have voted for Lillian, right? Come on. No, I don't think she voted for. She might've voted for a little to go back in the game. So she didn't have to hang out with Lill. She's a famous Sandra haters. So he would have voted. That's a lie. That's a lie. You know it cockatoo boy house. How was the zoo? I know you, I know you went to the zoo. Oh my God. I have literally wanted to go to the San Diego zoo? I know you went to the zoo. Oh my God. I have literally wanted to go to the San Diego Zoo
Starting point is 00:48:08 since I was a child when I would go to the library. Remember the library? Yes. And I would rent a CD-ROM. Do you remember a CD-ROM? Mm-mm. Virtual tour of the zoo, of the San Diego Zoo. I'd write lists of animals I wanted to see.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And this is the first time I got to go. It was amazing. It was great. Except some of their, their notable antelopes on their website were not present. Do you know them by name? I don't know if they're dead or shipped somewhere else. All right. Well, Omer, thank you for stopping by Club Condo. Well thank you for having me. Yes. Okay. And best of luck in the Alex Trebek studio. You don't need to wish me luck.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I'm just going to be sitting there. Are you not? Are you going to participate in our game today? Is that going to happen? I'll vibe with it. It's up to you guys. I heard there was a game about maybe I shouldn't spoil it. Yeah. Hold on. Well, okay. Actually. So yeah, let me make sure. Let me check in with Brandon Donnelly here. Cause I was told that there was a guest for the game is, is over the guest for the game. Because it's not GTF. Okay. Okay. You, you told me that a guest was coming when we got to, when the game was happening. Yeah. He was waiting on the gesture. And then Omer was here before the, before we didn't know that he was the guest. Sure. And I see that now, but I, but club condos about, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:44 going with the flow, going with the flow. Going with the flow. I had to go, let's do the game. All right. Robbo was famous last season when they dropped our hat. And then Chappelle, you finally got like 17 Club Condos this season. Yeah. And you had to outdo him that way?
Starting point is 00:49:58 I did. I did. I'm sorry. It was bound to happen though, honestly. Next season, what is Jeff going to promote? I think he's going to be like, Oh yeah, come to recap kickback on survivor. You know, it's a whole thing. So yeah, this is working. This is working out perfectly. You don't know that you don't know that let's play this game that Brandon Donlin has cooked up for us. And so to segue, let's go ahead and introduce a tweet from this week's episode. So we saw Mary say during the most infamous or most iconic challenge. Brandon,
Starting point is 00:50:35 did you agree with that? The Get a Grip most iconic challenge is not top 40. It's, it's, it's crazy. The hands up one to 48 seasons. Get a grip is in the top 40 challenges. I think it's, I think it's top 20, but I don't think it's most like, it's gotta be top 20, maybe top 10. Like y'all not gonna give it top 10. I think if I had to make a list and maybe look, if this is the off season, maybe that's a podcast.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I think it's probably like nine or 10 in most iconic challenges. What's the other moment that was referenced? What's the most iconic get a grip moment? That was get a grip wasn't even Gabler. No, the get a grip is the pole. This poverty standing on the pole. That's the most iconic moment. I don't know why I'm thinking of the Gabler challenge.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah, that's top 10. For sure that's top 10. Yes, say thank you. Thank you. I don't know why I'm thinking of the Gab of challenge. Yeah, that's top 10 for sure. That's yes Yes, thank you. Okay. I don't know why I'm thinking of the game of challenge I well Charlie said that you need grip strength for that challenge But sure that the stand on a pole is called get a grip Yes, I retract that take that I just said no clip Yeah, yeah and hunter like hung on
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah, yeah, I'd be being on the pole for Yeah, yeah. And Hunter, like hung on it upside down. Hunter doing the backflip. Yeah, yeah. Ozzy being on the pole for a year. You know, those are iconic moments. Okay. I think that it's stupid that they're making these grooves small though. What's the point then? I think Hunter's showing off.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I think they were like, we got to show them. No, because- You made it look too easy. Yeah, but the grooves in the actual pole, they're too small now. Who cares? No, I think they have to make pole. They're too small now and cares No, I think they have to they have to make this game harder because if anybody stays up there too long They'll outlast Omer on the show because he was up there for what a few hours Have this challenge, right?
Starting point is 00:52:18 No Gladly set up for the rice on this one. So Mary said, I'm pretending this thing is my boyfriend as she was holding on to the poll and then had to retract that on social media. Say, uh, so F what you heard me say on the poll. I'm single. And this is the song I wrote about our breakout. I'm,'m single and this is my single was right there Brandon Oh, that's good branding Donlin Mary if you're listening come to me. I could yeah, I'm gonna bang that out quick Well speaking of bang that out quick. It looks like that the album art here for her album is shoot. It's like she's holding a gun So Zach and I listen to all eight songs on this So Zach and I listened to all eight songs on this ride. Actually, every time I get in Zach's car, we just listened to baby teeth and I need to send her a video of it, but
Starting point is 00:53:11 it is, you know, she's a pretty good singer. I have to say, can I tell all the songs apart? Not always. They all sound similar, but they're all very good. Okay. All right. Well, with that in mind, that sets up today's game. Brandon tells us about whose lyrics are these. So Mary joins a Pantheon of survivor musicians, folks that are on survivor. They had an album before they have an album during some have an album afterward. So I listened to a lot of the songs of survivor contestants of, of your. And I wrote some of their lyrics down. And we're going to guess, the three of you
Starting point is 00:53:48 are going to guess whose lyrics these are between two people. So for example, Rob, I'll let you read the lyrics, Rob. And then we'll talk about the two people that are listening. This is round one. OK. All right, round one. OK, so we have on one side, we have Mary. And the other side, we have on one side we have Mary and the other side we have Jacob Derwin and it says
Starting point is 00:54:07 you hold me at arm's length when I just want to be held in your arms. Okay. All right. Who, which survivor musician would write that beautiful verse? You hold me at arm's length? This has to same Jacob. Yeah, I kind of feel like that Find me the person that would hold Mary at arm's length And Mary Mary doesn't need anyone to hold to be held in their arms Mary's An independent wombat, you know, she doesn't need that. I think this is Jacob. Yeah, I think this is giving Derwin energy. I I think this is Jacob. Yeah. I think this is giving Derwin energy.
Starting point is 00:54:51 I didn't even know Jacob Derwin was a musician until now. So you never heard of Mira from Manhattan? No. Well, I'm going to podcast series you didn't listen to. Yeah, I listen to his music. This must be about putting some rice in some socks. That's what I feel as the next verse. So Rob, I actually sent you a folder of all of the songs here. So the winner, you're gonna hear the line of the song and that'll tell us who the winner is. Wait, before we hear that, can Chappelle do his version of what this would sound like as a song? No, no I cannot. But I did guess that this was Mary and not Jacob. Yeah, it sounds like it is Mary. I just wanna be held in your arms.
Starting point is 00:55:37 See in the preseason, Mary said that her music is very reminiscent of like Amy Winehouse or Erykah Badu. And this really did feel like some Erykah Badu shit. So that's where I was going. That is my favorite. That is Mary's song, Cowboy, available on Spotify. You said you listen to Baby Teeth all the time with Zach Wordenberger. Yeah, but I don't, I'm famously never listened to the lyrics.
Starting point is 00:55:59 But yeah, what is Baby Teeth about? Baby Teeth. I thought that's the name of the band. Baby Teeth is Mary's, I guess, stage name, band name? Not sure. But she goes by Baby Teeth. Baby Teeth is not about something. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:12 All right. Yeah. All right. Which survivor musician penned the lyric, I stand on the fields of pain and glory. Was it Billy Garcia or Ben Katzman? Well, I think that Ben had both pain and glory, whereas Billy just had pain. Pain, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I don't know if Billy Garcia ever, I mean, he did have the glory of experiencing Candace's love, but outside of that, I don't know if he had pain and glory. I feel like, is this from tears on the beach? It seems like a line from that. What do you think? Are there fields on the beach as well? I'm going with, I'm going with, Oh yeah. So refills. Yeah. That's different. Billy, Billy. Okay. Robin Omer say Ben Katzman. Let's listen. What do we got?
Starting point is 00:57:26 On the fields of pain and glory. Who is that? Is that Billy? So, although that's not Billy singing, that is a song from Forsaken that Billy wrote. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh uh, can we do like a live, can we do like HOH style like Arc scores? Okay, so, Chappelle 2 and Robin Omer of Zero. Chappelle, you cheating in this game? You know all the answers before? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Yeah. I have a, I have a small MP3 of all the survivor songs that I just like sit around and sing. Yeah. I totally know all the answers to this. Is one of the pairings going to be Lee C. Winnara as a vice? You don't listen to Forsaken music when you get into like a emo sad boy phase, do you? How did you know I'd be having emo sad boy phase? Cause you tweet about it.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Real question. Get out of my business though, damn. Alright. Round 3. It's not a phase for him, it's all the time. Right. I'm trying to be me. Alright.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Okay. Let's... I thought it was just a beast game. Okay. Here we go Which survivor musician wrote the lyric I will take care of your body I'll be gentle. Don't you scream was it great a god? This wasn't see food chase rice or was it see food. I will take care of your body
Starting point is 00:58:42 I'll be gentle Don't you scream. Now- This is disturbing either way, but I think it's less disturbing. Yeah, because it's like, I get it. Like, I'm sure it's like, sort of like, hey, like, your body is a Wonderland type situation,
Starting point is 00:58:54 but it also could like be read as like a Dexter threat. Fair. I will take care of your body. I'll be gentle, Don't you scream? Sifu was an OTT PP on Beast games, so He did not have an edgy on these games. Yeah Oh
Starting point is 00:59:25 I don't see Sifu as the gentle type. No disrespect to my guy. He feels, to me, he's like a little bit more tender than that. So I'm going to go with Chase Rice. It just feels like... Yeah, I'm going to say Chase Rice also. What do you say, Omer? Yeah, it's Chase Rice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:38 All right. This is... Your Chase Rice also? Yeah. Okay. Sweep it your Chase Rice also. Yeah. Okay. Sweep it for Chase Rice. Let's see. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Damn. That was a big country. Damn it. I finally got one wrong. Oh, that was Chase. No. There was a second there where I thought it might be C. Sing, C-Fool, C. Sing, people sing!
Starting point is 01:00:06 Now, Brandon, how did you come aware of all these lyrics? So this, not, this song is very good. It's called, this is Chase Rice, the song is called Ride. It's a great song. And then everything else I did research on. This song I knew. Hey, that's an oxymoron. You said this song is good and it's isn't it a country song?
Starting point is 01:00:28 I love listen nobody loves country music more than me. I'm a big country music guy I'm like top 10 top 15 top 40 maybe even um, so I get a grip song And this this lyric I knew would be particularly funny for this game And I thought see if it was maybe the most believable to have like in this survivor verse to who would have said this lyric Like who else would have you know, okay okay we will see we'll keep going here all right so we have here the lyric feels like the lion's den and you're right here in it it looks like that we have Baylor Wilson or J Maya who wrote feels like the lion's den and you're right here in it And I'm not gonna hot like this does not look like Baylor for a second. I was looking for I thought Sarah This is a Baylor.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Feels like the Lions, Dan. And you're right here in it. So I listen to J. Myer's music, and this does not stand out to me as a J. Myer lyrics. Maybe, maybe I'm not a real fan. It's not J. Myer anymore. So clearly you're not a real fan. What is it? I also don't. Yeah, she changed her stage name recently.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Oh, yeah. I'm not saying that. Look into it. Yeah. But I mean, I still said Spencer before. Wow. To me, it's like, what were you when you were on Survivor? Sure. That's fair. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Right, right, right's right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. But feels like the Lions then. And you're right here in it. So I've never like I said, I don't really I don't really listen. I don't listen to the Baylor's music, but this just doesn't stand out to me as a leader. This feels like a Baylor to me. I feel like from the little bit of the sticky situation,
Starting point is 01:02:25 I feel like that she is big on the simile based off of the little bit of her musical writings that I know of. Feels like the lion's den. And you're right here, isn't it? Okay. Wait, a simile is like, can you remind us what a simile is?
Starting point is 01:02:44 Your children are in school, so you should know this. I believe a simile is like, can you remind us what a simile is? Your children are in school, so you should know this. I believe a simile is using a lycra as. Lycra as, yeah. Yeah. So it's like Baylor's- As opposed to- Baylor's so annoying, it's like she's on Club Kondo.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Oh. No, it's like a sneaky situation, you know, like having them on this show or something like that. Yeah, that sounds full of similar. Yeah. So, all right. Let's go with, I'm going to go with Baylor. Take Jay.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Take Jay on this one so that we can get- Why do I have to take Jay on this? You take Jay on this one. I'm going back. No, because I want to get the point and- Oh, you want me to throw the challenge for you? Yes. Okay okay here we go it is
Starting point is 01:03:33 feels like the lion's den and you're right there in it yeah bailey wilson i don't think i've ever wanted to be in the lion's den less Like the lion's den it yeah, yeah, we don't know anything. Okay. He's fifth marriage Okay Who I'm sorry, yeah, I'll tell you okay, so We have a lyric everything I do is filled with lies and deceit Can't someone sew me up and that's so s e w Is it which friend of the podcast is this uh autos music or whitney duncan?
Starting point is 01:04:23 Everything I do now is filled with lies and deceit Can't someone sew me up? Like in what way? Are they sewing up the mouth, the other orifices, and the body? Well, perhaps too much lies and deceit. Nothing Whitney has ever done has been filled with lies and deceit. So I would have to lean toward Otis Music here
Starting point is 01:04:42 just at my knee jerk reaction. He's a known liar. I mean, he's played Survivor twice. Yeah? Yep. Twice? Yeah. Can't someone sew me up? I'm going to go with Whitney on this. I need the point and I think that Chappelle is wrong. I'll go with Oris here. I feel like that seems like some sort of like deep poetic thought that some sort of like deep poetic thought that Otis might be trying to share with us. I'm not sure if the Whitney Duncan lyric has that many layers. I just don't think Whitney Duncan would sing about being filled with lies and deceit.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I just don't see why she would do that. Not her vibe. It's not her vibe, you know, saying that on a record. So, I would go with Otis as well. All right. Here we go. An Oscar record kind of thing. Definitely wouldn't be anything I would admit to. Everything I do is filled with lies and... Damn. Hey! Hey! Hey!
Starting point is 01:05:41 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!
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Starting point is 01:06:01 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Well, I think it's like sew them up so they can't do any more of those lies and deceit, you know, like I don't know maybe he's like so broken like he needs to be put back together You know this man in real life. Yeah He's very brooding yeah, so he's not beat us Aren't our final round I just don't think singing is one of them. There better be tiny whiteys in this.
Starting point is 01:06:25 There, you know, unfortunately there's no tiny whiteys. So we have five people that were in the game, but were not the people whose song it was, right? We have Whitney, we've got Jenany, AKA J. Maya, Sifu, Ben, or Jacob Darwin. The lyric, you seemed to share my secret sin. Is that one of their lyrics or a lyric from the band Survivor who sings I Have The Tiger? Is this a lyric from one of their... Yeah, but the band Survivor probably has like a hundred songs.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Yeah, this could be one from one of their lesser known hits. You seemed to share my secret scene. Well did you or did you not? I'm going with the field. How is the field not Survivor though? Like in my mind, Survivor has more songs, right? There's no way that they have as many songs as the band Survivor. Right?
Starting point is 01:07:19 Yeah, if you're playing the percentages, but. Yeah, so I think that's the field. I think that it's one of these other five people slip to none. I'm playing the game maker. I think the bigger question is what would Brandon Donovan do? And I think that does he put in a completely random band for no reason or... They're called Survivor. If I put in Metro Station, that'd be a completely random band.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I am going to go... Wait, what is Shevelle going with? I'm going with the opposite of that. He said the band Survivor. I'm going with Survivor. I'm going to go. Wait, what is Shevelle going with? I'm going with the opposite of that. He said the band Survivor. I'm going with Survivor. I'm going with The Field. Okay. I'll take The Field also. I'm going with Metro Fiction. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:51 And you seem to share my secrets in. Shake, shake, shake it. You seem to share my secrets in. The band Survivor. What song is that? That is, oh, I believe that song is called, is it High on Me? Is that what it's called? Oh, you don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:09 High on You. This song is called High on You. Final answer. Gun to My Head could not have named another song. High from Survivor 42? Over. See if you can get high to come down and come to sumo at sea in no tell. We have to go to Louisiana for that.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Oh yeah. How would you have felt if you were up against it? We know you would have felt if you were picking on people smaller than you like Romeo and Zack, but what about high? What do you think you would have done? Oh, I could have destroyed him too. Oh baby. Yeah. When you inevitably play again, we don't have to sign you up because I'm tired of you talking all this trash. I don't feel like you've got to be. I famously said that before Dwight got his new, you know, new glow up, I could have kicked his ass. And by glow up, you mean steroids? Because we've seen it.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Brandon, how would you have done a sumo at sea? I thought about this while I was being talked about. I'm like, I am not, I'm not small. I do think I have like a big, a bigger presence on my side. I think I would have been fine. You know what I really liked when, who it in heroes versus villains who kind of just moves I guess it's James and Randy. Yeah, they're going at it. And like, if you're your Randy charges at James and then James just you know, stops him but like, just move out of the way. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:09:18 I think that would be my move. I could have just unlocked the strategy. I feel I feel good about the Ola. Yeah, yeah, but strictly like, yeah, like brute strength wise, you probably could have just unlocked the strategy. I feel good about that. The Olay. Yeah. Yeah, but strictly like, like brute strength wise, you probably could have knocked Brando on his ass, yeah? Yeah. I mean, probably. We could use that hotel room
Starting point is 01:09:34 if you give me a flight for tomorrow. I can, we'll get on that bed. Can we do a celebrity death match with Brando and Brando? Might be my favorite thing in the world that we've ever talked about here on Club Kondo. Cause like now I want to cast what Sumo- Sea would look like, maybe like the undercard, right? We don't need to see what Jonathan would do.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Yeah, Brandon and I were talking earlier about some content that he could be doing and he's got all the cameras from when we did the social game that he could set up in his apartment. Should he just have survivors come over and do Sumo at Sea in his apartment? Yes, actually. Let's go. And your next R-Hap live event, can we do that at sea in his apartment. Actually, let's go. Yeah. Your next R half live event. Can we do that at the commercials? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Yeah. It's wrestle. I think that's wrestling. Sumo in apartment C? What do you think? Yeah. What was that show that was on? Joe's apartment?
Starting point is 01:10:20 No, there was the, not Veronica's closet. It was, don't trust the be in apartment 23. Sure sure Yeah Yeah, I think people would watch this on our Instagram It would be like you know, you'd be like kind of like having like chicken fights in your apartment Sure of like oh today. Okay, here we go here We've got Caleb and we've got Jake O'Kane here today for Sumo in apartment C.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Good old survival cockfight. This is not the cockfight. This could be our foray into a different streaming service, to be quite honest. Yeah. If we wanna do a different paid for service, I think this is the move to get there. I mean, look, has Ozzy done Sumo at C?
Starting point is 01:11:03 He definitely had a good cockfighter here and there, I'm sure. When it comes to, but we've ventured into this in the room before, you know, with big brother boxing. This sounds like some survivor sumo at sea. We could do this. Yeah. You know, what's the insurance like? Sky high, probably.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Brandon, I'm not joking. This is a good idea. I'll put this, I'll put the calls out. I mean, do the cushions come off your couch? I don't want to expose a lot of cheese. It does. But it's not a pillow fight. You need like couch cushions for Sue. I want to do it, but I don't want to fly to New York to do it. Okay. Well, maybe we can do like we can. I mean, who would you take on from Canada? I think that, okay, of the people in Canada, I could beat Erica. I could beat Mary Ann.
Starting point is 01:11:50 See if Erica wants to do sumo at C versus you for the podcast. She wouldn't go down without a fight. Caleb, I think he'll win, but it would be closer than someone would think. I want to see you versus Tom Laidlaw. Oh, I could clock him. You and Kane is actually an interesting match to me. I wanna see you versus Tom Laidlaw. Oh, I could clock him. You and Kane is actually an interesting match to me. And honestly, I think that you and Mary Ann, I think it could be mixed gender, but I think, look, I think it would be feisty.
Starting point is 01:12:18 It would be. She wouldn't go down without a fight, but she would lose. Okay, all right. Well, we gotta start to wrap up. So let's leave it there. Omar, what can people check you out on? Instagram, Twitter, chat, BCC, which I've unfortunately been off the ball on because of the West Coast issue. But we'll be back as soon as we're on the East Coast.
Starting point is 01:12:39 And check out Jeopardy! Masters premiering April 30th on ABC. Yes. I know. It's during primetime. It actually competes against Survivor, which is an issue. Oh! Okay. All right. Well, thank you for being here today, Omer. And we look forward to hearing more stories from your West Coast trip. Omer, is it true your sister has played more days of Jeopardy than you have survived? That all sues.
Starting point is 01:13:14 The gap is closing though. The gap is closing. Alright, Chappelle, what's coming up for you? I'm going to text Omar. I don't know why he doesn't talk to me anymore. We used to be friends and now he's like... They literally have said, bring me on to talk about your murderous Winnie the Pooh
Starting point is 01:13:29 anytime and I've yet to hear a date about it. We didn't, oh God, you're so whiny. Okay, fine. We'll talk, we'll talk. And then me, yeah, you can catch me talking about Battle Camp. That's coming out on Netflix soon. Me and Kirsten are gonna talk about it. It's the Netflix All-Stars doing these competitions that Omar couldn't beat them in.
Starting point is 01:13:47 I'm literally going to that premiere event tomorrow. Oh yeah? And yeah, I'm not even on this. They should have cast you. Why didn't you audition for the show? No, not on Netflix. I'm not going on Netflix. I'm saying that you could have asked me to be a correspondent instead of Kirsten McInnis,
Starting point is 01:14:03 famous Canadian trash. Don't you take it back, damn it. Take it back now. Issue an apology. Now. Oh, we love Kirsten, but I'm just saying you're both in the same trash category. And yeah, you went with her.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Okay, yeah. When I had to pick my Canadian, she is towards the top of the rankings, yes. You are just lower than that. You are just lower than that, but it's okay. If yeah, give us some, get us some footage from the premiere. No, Kane's higher than you. What? But yeah, get us some footage from the, from the premiere and then check us, check us out. If you're listening to this, check us out on Netflix. We're talking about that. We also interviewed Sam and Sydney from Million dollar secret one of the hottest new reality shows that was on Netflix as well
Starting point is 01:14:48 So check that out too and make sure you subscribe to the nothing but that's its pod. Okay Great job. They should pal Brandon Donlin anything else for you? Follow Rob was a pocket or Rob is podcast on Twitter and Rahab grams on Instagram. All right, I don't need a plug I have so many followers already. Oh, nice. Thank you so much for joining us. Fun show today. I'll be back with Kelly Wentworth later on tonight. Take care, everybody.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Have a good one. Bye.

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