RHAP: We Know Survivor - Club Condo Survivor 48 Finale

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

This week, Rob and Chappell discuss the Survivor 48 finale.

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I'm also very surprised to see you here. Yes. On your holiday. Yeah, it's Memorial Day. Well, I haven't served. Yeah, well, I just felt like we were memorializing, you know, being you. And so I felt like you would go take some time

to go kick with your family or something like that. Maybe go on a trip or something like that. See the world and then come back in a few weeks. Shbell, how could I take a trip when there's so much exciting stuff to talk about? Is there, is there so much stuff excited to talk about? We are all on pins and needles as we count down the days, as we are less than 48 hours away from learning the true identity of the Survivor 50 cast coming up on Wednesday morning

around 8.30 a.m. Eastern time. Chappelle, will you be setting an alarm clock? No, what? I'm going to have the luxury of waking up and already having my notifications blowing up with the answers to the question that everybody wants to know, which is who is going to be on that cast. But will I be up watching it like it's the Oscar or Emmy announcements or whatever? No, because I don't want, I don't be up watching those either. So you will, I'm sure I will wake

up to the moment everything is talked about when there's going to be a buzz. People are going to be so excited about this new cast. I can feel it. Rob. Who are they going to hand it to? Nate Burleson? Are they going to hand it to Gale King? Yeah. Kick it over to Gale King from space. Give him the rundown about who is going to be on this guy. Do you think they actually watch the show? Do you think there's any world where Gale has seen more than the episode of Survivor where, uh, where Joe comforts Eva? No, I don't think so. Me neither. That's been everywhere. Like, uh, talking about like the Joe and Eva stuff.

I watch a YouTube channel, uh, called Charisma on Command, huge YouTube channel. I made a whole video about the Joe and Eva saga. I'm, I'm at first I was like, okay, this is good. Then I was like, okay, y'all are overdoing it. Like, like, let's bring it back. And now I'm back around was like, okay, this is good. Then I was like, okay, y'all are overdoing it. Like, let's bring it back. And now I'm back around to like, no, this is good because I've been seeing a lot of the responses on the interwebs since the finale and people had really soured on Eva.

They're like, okay, you got autism, but you're still whining. It's like, all right, let's bring it back to like, there was a very human moment that we all enjoyed about halfway through the season before the season started to stink. I like that better. And so, yeah, I'm OK with that, getting the the prophecy that it deserves, because who knows?

We might see one of these people in the future. Maybe in a few seasons from now, they might come back. Yeah. A great story to continue. Well, Chappelle, that's been the real chatter online is all about Survivor 50. Check out this from the CBS official Instagram account says Yo, you've been telling us your theory It's curious how many of you are correct find out Wednesday May 28th when we reveal it all and check this out So who do you think will be on survivor 50 of survivor and then they're showing all of the fan?

guesses that is on the audio of this The guesses that is on the audio of this, all everybody's different guesses of who's coming back. You gotta find out. I saw a David Bloomberg tweet in there. Yeah. There you go. Find out Wednesday morning. I know that we got a ringing phone. Did someone call you?

Who will answer the call is the answer. Wait a minute. So you mean to tell me that there are some people who are like, survivors calling, I ain't picking up. I'm too busy. Misty Giles is sitting at home thinking, Jeff, please. I told you once before, I'm not doing this. Get off my back.

I would never come back. Do you think that they should reveal who did not answer the call? Absolutely. I want to know every person who was sitting at home like, I'm too good for this, Albert. I know it was him. Yeah, I know Albert was like, Jeff, please. I... Chase Rice is like, you want me to leave my tour? So please, again, please. No, I would love to know.

Um, and of course, we don't know yet. But I would love to know all the levels of the process. I want to know how, where it started, where, whoever was going and where, how we ended up where we're going to end up when the time comes. But right now we don't have it. We just have a lot of speculation and the internet is a buzz.

A lot of smoke. We don't have any fire yet, but Chappelle, from your vantage point of being a tapped in insider, what's the word on the Survivor streets about the word leading up to the Survivor 50 reveal? I felt like there was some good energy in the last few months, and people were really starting to ramp up that feeling of like, OK, y'all, look, yeah, there's a 49 coming, but we're really trying to get to the meat and potatoes. We trying to get to 50. We've waited so long for this.

A lot of us have been in the trenches for 25 years at this point. Some people just showed up in the new era, and they got caught up, they did their homework, and they're ready to see their faves come back. For some reason in the last few days, Rob, things are just taking a shift where people are like, you know what, honestly, bring in 49. Bring in the Rizgot, whoever that is. You know what I'm saying? Like, what, if's taking a shift where people are like, you know what, honestly, bring in 49, bring in the Rizgot, whoever that is.

You know what I'm saying? Like, what, if that's a thing, let us have some of that. Because I don't know, I don't know, Rob, it's getting kind of tense. You're feeling the vibe, you're feeling that people are really excited about Survivor 49 suddenly. Suddenly people care about Survivor 49, Suddenly, you know, I just, I think there's so much speculation around Survivor.

I think that so many people are convinced that whatever Survivor does is going to leave them disappointed. You know, like there might be something that they do and they might say like, hey, where's Misty Giles? You know, like I saw that in one of those tweets or whatever. So I'm picking on her today. But yeah, like where is this person? Where's Phillip? That was for real that somebody said, where's Misty Giles, you know, like I saw that in one of those tweets or whatever. So I'm picking on her today. But yeah, like, where is this person?

Where is Phillip? That was for real that somebody said, where's Misty Giles? It was in the tweet, the little tweet montage and I said, oh, her? Oh, who Misty Giles and let her know? Yeah, get out here for one of these old school interviews. But I think that, yeah, I think people are like now priming themselves to be potentially disappointed. But here's the thing.

It's been 50 seasons, right? Misty Giles was Parvati before Parvati. That's what people have been saying, but no, y'all don't, anyway, I'm out there with the Giles stands, okay? Like bring back Giles, bring back Giles. And the Sox and Sally, you know, like all of them, bring back all of those people. But anyway, here's the thing, they have 50 seasons.

They have, you know, several returning seasons or whatever, but they have 50 seasons to go off or 48 that we have seen. So yeah, they can think they're not going to mess this up. Y'all, we have faith that they're going to go in and build the best of the best. But the, but the internet is still in kind of tense. It feels like we're on edge. Yeah. Listen to that. I say, you should spell let them cook. Okay. These people are professionals. let them cook, okay? These people are professionals,

they know what they're doing with unlimited time and unlimited resources. I think they got this. See, I heard that they are naming Survivor 50 in the hands of the fans, because what they really did was they went and they checked every tweet and every Reddit post and every Facebook and they aggregated the data.

They pulled the facts and the numbers. They listened to the fans of what they wanted. They listened to the fans and they said, okay, we're gonna count up each of the fan cams that we find online. So for every time somebody stand, you know, Purple Kelly or, you know, somebody like that, they made a tally mark.

They said, okay, bring back Purple Kelly, got it. Bring back this person, got it. Bring back, where's Shamar? Got it. And they made tallies. And this is just my theory, of course, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. But they went in and they said, this is what the fans want.

And now they're compiling a list with the raw data, the numbers, Rob. The numbers don't lie. So they're getting the numbers. And they're going to give us the cast that we want based on the amount of stan support we've seen online. That's what I think. OK, maybe that could have been one way they went. They're gonna give us the cast that we want based on the amount of stan support we've seen online. That's what I think.

Okay, maybe that could have been one way they went. I guess, well, okay, we'll find out. We can keep going in circles. We'll find out for sure on Wednesday. RHAP coverage starts at 9 a.m. on, assuming they're done revealing the cast by then. It better not take an hour to review that cast. Excuse me. Yeah. I think that people are ready. I think the people are ready to find out what this is. Rip the band-aid off.

Well, how do you want to see them do it on Wednesday? Just go through the names. You want an urn? Like we have like Jeff. An urn would be so cool if they brought out Jeff and he like pulled the name. I mean, should we go back to, you know, Shannon, Gus, the bingo balls of like, all right, here we go. Yeah, look, they can they can make this entertaining. I don't think it needs to take an hour, but they can make it entertaining. Boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo. Yeah, and like the Jiles fans and they're like, Jibri, Jiles, Cam. Yeah, and like the Jaws fans, they're like, J-P-E-F-E-G-J-O-W-E.

Cam! Yeah. Yeah. I think that they have the opportunity to make this really good and to give us a good cast and to give us a good reveal, and I'm sure they will. I don't think they have a little showmanship with it. I cannot wait to wake up.

Because here's the thing, we've seen the Survivor social media really have showmanship in the last week. Yeah, they said we're going to drop this cast Wednesday. Next Wednesday. And we're like, oh, we're doing it that? You know, so it's like, don't do that to us and then kind of show up and just like swing and whiff. You know, you got to come in big. It's 50. Okay. All right.

So let's, with that being in the backdrop, we still had our big Survivor 48 finale. Chappelle, you and I have not gotten the chance to talk about the finale. Any thoughts that you had from the Survivor of 48 final hours? We teamed bubble butt out here, man. You know, yeah, Kyle is the winner. This is crazy.

I'm very excited for him, very happy for him. It was a good win. People are talking about it'm very excited for him, very happy for him. It was a good win. People are talking about it as one of the best wins in the new era. And I'd say that based on what we saw, I would say that. Now, there's definitely some conflicting reports with some of the editing that we've seen.

We've got a very heavy Joe and Eva season to let us believe that maybe they would have a bigger role. Shaheen has really given us from the jury box, like, I was the biggest threat, I could have done it. You know, we saw them telling Mitch, you're just too likable to make it to the end. We can't take you that far. So I feel like there's things we didn't really get

to see too much of, but Kyle comes away with the crown this time, and it was a pretty solid victory. Not a lot of drama there in the Kyle department. Yeah, I said this a few different ways, but it just feels like that there was like in this season, like following like the Joe and Eva moment when they had like so much good will from the cast. It's like, okay, these two are on a rocket ship. They're going to the end game. And then all these other folks were sort of like clamoring to be with them. Shaheen was with them from the jump. Kyle got on board.

David got on board. And just like, okay, well now they're very well insulated. They've got all the momentum. And then against this like hapless gang of people on the bottom who were never able to get it together, like they were unstoppable. Yeah, Kyle rolled them to the end like oxen.

You know, it happened. It's happened before in Survivor history where a duo has been very powerful and then someone's been able to kind of lead them to the end. You know, they're going to the end. But to get on that train and say,

all right, like we got to make some stops first and take out other people who are going to stop me from getting there with you. It's a viable option as far as strategy goes. We see that it works. It's worked before in the past. If you want to talk about like maybe Denise and Malcolm

and them hitching their ride onto scooping and Lisa Welchel. Like it's happened before. And so I'm not mad at it, but yeah, the edit was really leading us to believe like, these two are powerhouses. Anybody who sits next to them would be crazy. In reality, it's just like, no, maybe not. Maybe that wouldn't be so crazy.

I don't think the jury really thought too highly of Joe's strategic game based on the votes and all the questioning or not questioning at tribal council. And it looks like the same, you could say the same about Eva. And so, in a season where people came in really talking about, we don't want more super fans, all these nerds who watch all the season, we don't have the backstab we need an honor and integrity. I'm very happy to see that none of that stuff was rewarded and that these people were punished for their hubris and for their lack of game knowledge.

Okay. All right, Chappelle. So one of the things that did come out there, there was a little bit of discourse where Mitch did his exit press, came on with me. I was happy to get the chance to talk with Mitch, talk to all of the different interviewers, and there was a lot of questions from Mitch about, Mitch, why couldn't you make it work and go with the plan to go to Rocks at the final eight when you said you did not want to work with Star.

And so he was asked about that. What he explained was that he did have conversations with Star, but Star went back and told those conversations to Joe and Eva, and I hope that I am not mincing any words, but he said Star was not a joke, but the idea of that, going with Star after she ended up ratting out the plan to Joe and Eva, who she also thought

she was going to have a good shot to go to the end with, was a bad plan. And so, Star responded to some of Mitch's exit press, not specifically my conversation with him. And here's some of what Star said. Star had said, the fact, the storyline is Star told, and then we have five crying laughing emoji. That means I was telling everybody's business to everybody,

like, what sense does that make? It doesn't, but go off. I'ma go dance on the beach. Survivor 48. Everybody can't put their poor gameplay all on me. She seems to not cosign this storyline that Mitch came to her to make a move and she was not willing to make a move

or she was so messy that she went back and told them about the move. It's really hard to know. A lot of that was left out of the edit. We didn't really even get to see, Star and Mitch talked too many times. The first time we really see them talk is, oh, Mitch is like, oh, I'm gonna teach her how to swim.

Like that's the extent of the relationship that we really saw. And then we see them both, you know, trying to lobby for votes and this, that, and other. So, yeah, not a great spot in the star and Mitch view. Were there more tweets that came from Star? Because my girl likes to talk. She a Yapper like me. Yeah, I think that there was another tweet that maybe not, may no longer be up.

And I just wanted to paraphrase that. I think star also said like, why would, uh, you know, why would they want, uh, why would they show the scene of me of Mitch teaching me how to swim, but not show the scene of me and Mitch talking about a final three? Oh yeah. yeah. Now, can I talk to Earl Starr? That was not, that's a tweet as I'm trying to pull it up now. Starr had a lot to say after the finale. Let me just. Oh yeah, I can imagine. Yeah, Starr said,

literally no show of an interaction except at the end. If that were true, they would have had to show a final three conversation. So no, that didn't happen. Why would they show him teaching me how to swim and not show him talking about a final three conversation. So no, that didn't happen. Why would they show him teaching me how to swim and not show him talking about a final three with me? Let's make it make sense. Yeah, I mean, there's that.

So here's the thing. I love me some Star. I wanted to draft Star, even though I knew that would go poorly. Star, Star, even though I knew that would go poorly. Uh... I... Star. Star, my sister, I gotta talk to you for a second. Star asked just be talking. And here's why. Star tweeted out,

um, because I guess people had really had big questions about her vote in the final tribal council. She ends up voting for Eva, who we at home all know that Eva was not the biggest Star fan. She also got Star as idol only to go vote Star out, you know, in that, and then to basically claim the idol as her own throughout the entire season, before acknowledging Star at the very end. So we were like, hey, Star, what's up with this vote? And I think Star tweeted out something to the effect of like,

well, who else was I supposed to vote for? As if there are not two other options sitting right there. As if Kyle is not a viable option for Star to vote for. So sometimes I'll be like, Star, what are you talking about? And I believe Say responded, girl, don't piss me off. That was the same energy I had. I was like, Star, don't act like evil was the only option at that point.

Like, stop it. Stop playing games. So I don't know. I don't know who to believe in the Star versus Mitch feud, but keep that going. Keep that going. I like that. Star says, you wanted to work with me, but wrote my name down. The lies, the lies, the lies, GIF. Yeah, at that point. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. This is tough. This is tough.

They did these people so dirty in the edit. They really did. They did. Like, they did. We were all sitting at home watching the same show that they played the game of. And we were saying, why would you go anywhere near the end with Joe and Eva? They have all the things they're winning, all the challenges they have, all the trinkets. They are they have all the stuff and all the confessionals we get are people just saying how loyal they want to be to that massive or to that big alliance. Right. The alliance of like honor and integrity.

And then when they get to the end, they're like, or Camilla could have beat everybody. It's like, Oh, okay. Well then, you know, which is awesome. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. The show really didn't do it. Last star tweet, whose star is maybe taking the mantle from say of a carrying the postseason on her back. Here's stars. As I talk my poop emoji poop emoji now 100%. I'm not the one when you go low. I go to hell. You've been warned. Don't mess with the nice girl. We nice for a reason. You don't want no smoke. I'll snoop you with my lungs. I really don't give an A. Stop trying mama. Star protect me. I protect me and mine period. Period. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She said, hey, don't get twisted. I ain't the one order to. All right. Yeah. If you take it low, I'm cooking it to hell. What did Phillips say on Dandee?

So low that the Underground Railroad so low, that low? Yeah. Yeah. Harriet Tubman couldn't find you so low. Star got time today. Very entertaining. Again, we didn't get a lot of star on the television show and I think we missed out on a lot. Mm-hmm. Okay. All right. Chappelle, this was something I noticed immediately when I watched the finale. Did you notice at the final tribal council that Mitch was wearing the very famous finger wag shirt to the final tribal council? Hey, my boys did not.

Hey man, Rob, do you ever wear any of your survivor clothes after you left the season? Has that been a thing? I don't think, I feel like that Stephen Fishback does. I feel like I've seen him wear the shirt he wore to the Final Tribal Council in Cambodia. But no, I don't think that- I mean, it's been years. Yeah, nothing that I had in Survivor, the Amazon.

I had the hat. But I ended up, like, I was out so quickly in Survivor All-Stars that I was able to use some of the stuff I had in Survivor All-Stars that I did, was able to use some of the stuff I had in Survivor All-Stars after the fact. Did you have a jury like fit plan for when you were gonna be on, cause you famously said you didn't think

you were gonna win the Amazon when you went out there. Did you ever think about getting the fits off? I know it was in the early days of Survivor, but to me, I feel like that's a very important part of the jury. You know, I had like a softball tee that, something like a long sleeve, like softball shirt that I had. And then at the final travel council, I had like a black and gray version of it, which was similar to the one. So I guess I felt like thought like, oh, this is going to be like the darker version of what I had in the game.

Yeah. That was that. I didn't have anything like a plan for Ponderosa or the jury. If anybody is coming back for 50, they need to get these fits off. I'm not playing with y'all. This was so sad. There was so many things that bored me about season 48. And one of them was definitely the outfits we got

from the jury. Every now and then somebody would pop out with a little something. Mary, Mary and her green was like, okay, I see what you're doing there. Cedric, you dropped the ball. You disappointed me. I'm so sad.

Chrissy, she had a couple of moments. David, I think he put a real shirt on for the final tribal council. So I appreciated that from him, but it just wasn't giving me what I needed, y'all. The final tribal council and all tribal council leading up to that. If you're on the jury, that's your time to shine.

All we gonna do is get cutaways to your reactions. The camera gonna be on you more during the jury segment than it was during the show a lot of times. So you gotta come with some fits. This is not good, not good. Chappelle, let me give you some, another clip from the exit press this week. Got one from Gordon Holmes, got the chance to speak with Kyle, friend of the pod and

Gordon Holmes of course, famously does the word association with the survivor and guests that he has on the exit press. This is what Kyle had to say about Thomas in this exercise. Listen to this. Thomas. Handjob. I'm sorry, what? Sorry, what did I say? Sexy.

What do you mean by that? Yeah. What do you mean by that? Yeah. What do you mean? Not the sexy part. Like the sexy part I understand. Yeah, I'll do it to you again. Thomas. Yeah, do that again.

Handjob. I'm sorry, what? Sorry, what did I say? Sexy. Shaheen. Thomas. Go on, go on. Gordon is going to keep going.

What did you say, Shaheen? Yeah, I would have been like, no, no, hold on. What do you mean by that? What do you say Shaheed? Yeah, I would have been like, no, no, hold on. What do you mean by that? What are you trying to say? Thomas, you freaky frog. Kyle, what y'all been doing?

Why? See, that's what I'm talking about. This is the type of entertaining stuff that they left out the show. We didn't know Kyle had a bubble butt. We didn't know that. I mean, I'm sure the keen-eyed viewers at home that were paying attention, but we didn't get none of that. We were talking about his wart on his finger when he had something else popping.

Who knew? So, yeah, I think they left out all the fun stuff. This hair job, we definitely need more information. If you were to do a deep dive with the winner, I feel like that is a question that you should lead with. Lead with that? I mean, word association, if that, so it was like, when you're like, okay,

so you get swapped to the tribe with Thomas, hand job, and then just let them finish their sentence. Cause at that point, cause we all need to know, at that point, that's the number one question I have for Kyle. What? Okay. Hand job. Chappelle, did you happen to watch the Survivor 49 preview or did you check out of the aftershow by then?

So I did go outside and take a walk during the fire making challenge. So it was actually very funny. I went outside to get some air and then I got distracted. People know me, they know your boy, he has ADHD and if a shining light goes by, I'm gonna go follow that. And so, and then I found this Korean barbecue spot. I promise you I'm going somewhere with this. I found the Korean barbecue spot and I went over there. But I could see Survivor playing through the building, the door, the windows of the building

that I was at prior across the street. So I'm like waiting on my food, but I'm also looking through the window to kind of see who's winning the fire maker challenge. And I cannot tell at all. I just know it's lasting a very long time. And so I finally go inside. I have no clue who won, but everybody's talking to me about who won the fire maker challenge. And I'm just sitting there just, you know, fresh off a walk, Korean barbecue in tow. And I'm just shaking my head like, oh yeah, yeah, that was great. That was a thing that happened. I have Uh-huh. I'm sure things things were great. And so I come in thinking that maybe I'd already like, okay

I've missed something significant. I was very I was very quickly informed that I did not and so but at that point I didn't want to miss anything else. So I sat there like a zombie, you know stuck someone say and I and I was waiting on The phone is on the 49 but it was kind of like a blur, you know, stuck, someone say, and I was waiting on the 49, but it was kind of like a blur. Like I said, the walk took a toll on me. It was my allergies were bad, and I had the Korean barbecue poppers. So I did see parts of the 49 preview. I just don't really remember it.

Okay, yeah, kind of got lost in the shuffle between the finale and then also Survivor 50 hype that's waiting, but that there is one contestant that has a name that has caught a lot of attention. You mentioned it already. There's a person named Rizgod that we met in the Survivor 49 preview. Here's Jalinski. Listen, I never really give my full opinion on things, especially things that are related to Survivor. But I just finished watching the Survivor 49 trailer and I just watched a young man

refer to himself as the man, the myth, the legend, Rizgad. And now this is no disrespect to the Rizgad, I'm sure all of his friends call him that. But all Survivor fans know there is only one man, myth, legend, who is also the monster and his name is Jolinski. There's just no replacing that. Okay. Are you ready for a Jolinski versus Rizgad sort of redemption Island season? Is that what Survivor 50 is? Are they going to Jalinsky and the Riz God on Survivor 50? Two giant heads of Riz God and Jalinsky? Who's the real man myth the legend?

Do you remember why Jalinsky started going by the monster? Um, remind me. I remember he said that... Jalinsky is a legend. Why was he the monster? I don't know. I don't know. I don't remember. That doesn't seem like it's canon for the show. What is he talking about? I don't know. I don't know. I don't remember that doesn't seem like this canon for the show What is he talking about? Let's see. Why are they calling you the monster? Yeah That mean

Remember these things like what the game is the monster right? But when did you let's keep it come the monster in what way? I don't know if it was a preseason interview if I was on the show No, I think that was after the fact. I think Jalinski, he's become the monster later on. I think they saw him on the beach and they said, oh yeah, that monster, working with a monster. That's him. I don't know, I don't know. But why is he beefing with the Riz guy?

Is this one of those things where it's like, the new Congress is coming in, so you gotta make sure that they know there's that. You can't, there can't be two, right? Jalinski has to go ahead and assert his dominance right now. So Riz Lord doesn't come in and like ruin everything. Riz God.

Yeah. That's why I said, yeah. Okay. All right. Here's another TikTok. This is from a coach posted this to social media this week. Coach appears to be on the fence about a decision. Coach Ben Wave Dragon say I just want to say this. Life is beautiful. And you've got to make sure

that when you are presented with decisions and choices, that you always go with that little bit of magic, right? That sixth sense, that gut that you have, you got to go with your gut. with that little bit of magic, right? That sixth sense, that gut that you have, you gotta go with your gut. You gotta know when to say no. You gotta know when to say yes. You gotta know when to persevere. You gotta know when to call it quits.

Okay. This man is a cartoon. I'm not even joking. Like, man, I've been on record. Coach is one of the best characters in Survivor in the other game. Because he is not acting. He is not acting. This is him.

This is him. That man will look you dead in the eye and say one thing and do something completely different with no remorse. And there's no, the light doesn't go off and say like, hey, you said a different thing. Like, it doesn't even occur to him that that's not what he did.

Like, that's just not how coach gets down. I don't know what the hell he's talking about, but I'm so fascinated that coach of all people is weighing in on people's decision-making. You know, we've seen coach say a lot of things that he will immediately go back on as if he did not say those things every time. He does it so much so often. So I'm dying to find out what the hell coach is talking about.

What is he trying to decide? Right what the hell Coach is talking about. What is he trying to decide? Right, or who is he talking about? Like, oh yeah, sometimes you got to go with your gut. But other times, maybe don't. Maybe don't go with your gut. He said, you can do what's right, or you can do what is wrong if it has that magic.

And he said, you got to go with the magic. Like, all logic could be telling you go this direction, but how you gonna ignore the magic that's on that other side? He's trying to say... Sometimes you say yes, sometimes you say no, sometimes it's time to call it quits. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, you gotta know when to hold them.

Know when to fold them, know when to walk away, know when to run. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I don't know, man. This is very cryptic. I don't know what he's talking about. Do you think he's giving a message to somebody who could potentially be on Survivor 50?

Is he saying like, Boston Robb? Sometimes you gotta say enough is enough. A yes to the adventure, yeah. But sometimes you gotta say no. You gotta know when the call it quits. Is it giving a message to like, hey, anybody who plays a survivor like three times, maybe 50 ain't for you. Maybe that's what he's saying. Okay. All right. Then here's one from a friend of the pod, Owen Knight, posted this week. Okay. He said, he posted this video and said, this clip is so objectively funny that I don't even care

anymore that it's one of the worst moments of my life. The winner survivor 43. We have our winner. Thank you. Thank you. Jerry, come on over. Thank you guys. Yeah. Okay. Hey, man. Hey, man. I've told you the story about what my experience was with that finale.

I've told you that before. No. Oh, yeah. You were at the Bryce and Gwen event and you were like the show psychologist for everybody involved. Yeah, so we're in LA and there's like obviously there's a delay. See, me not realizing that the West Coast doesn't actually watch the show at the same time as East Coast. I didn't know it had already basically, it had already aired basically. So we're walking, I'm walking around the finale and prior to the results happening, it was so much fun.

We were having such a good time. The 43 cast was there. Not Gabler, he was not there, but everybody else was there and we were having a great time walking around. I'm like seeing everybody taking shots. It's a good time. Bryce and Winniven, if you've never been to one, make sure you check it out. And then something happened.

It's kind of like this, this mood switch that happened in the last couple of days here in the Survivor community. It's just a very sharp turn that happened where I was like, something right. Could you know me, Rob? You see me at these events. I'm a lot of energy. I'm like, hey, what are we doing?

And I saw there were people crying and I was like, oh, you must be so happy for this final three. They, tears of joy. That's crazy. I saw a mirror from Big Brother there. She, I was like, why are you here? You know, like there was just several things that just were off and Then it's like it felt like a zombie bite like people

Whispering it in like the mood would just start changing around the room. And then of course me being me several walks later, I was like I Don't know. Everybody seems kind of down on this. This is crazy. We're watching it. And I'm like, this is crazy. What a crazy result that happens. But the room was morbid, to say the least. It was dark in there, Rob. It was not fun. I had the top of my life, but a lot of people did not. That clip is hilarious because Owen and Cassidy were legitimately shocked. And Gabler stood up like, thank you, thank you. Like, you know, it was so solemn. Like, yes, exactly, exact.

No, no, you sit down, sit down. I applaud you. I applaud you. They were like, what is happening? So good, so good. It's such a good clip. I will always say that, oh, I love Owen. I love him so much, and I was really hoping that he had a better experience, but that clip is objectively hilarious.

One of the funniest moments in Survivor history. Okay. You know what? This was another season 50 clip that I should have played earlier in the podcast. Apologize about that. But let's bounce around a little bit. I want to go back to Survivor 50 stuff

because I've got a clip for you from a survivor alumni many people Thought could have been in the mix for survivor 50 Okay, we go You know and sometimes people like like hear a name for a long time and they make a lot of assumptions And so this might have been the case here with this woman. Remember Elizabeth Hasselbeck? No formerly Elizabeth full R ski Yeah, from the early days yes the Australian outback, okay, well Elizabeth, okay

She posted to her Instagram this week, an announcement about her involvement with survivor 50. Check this out. Fun summer updates so far. Um, okay. No, I'm not doing survivor. That is funny though. I not doing that. Um, I'm going to be back there with like snacks instead. Okay. I'm not doing that. I love that I'm not doing that. Like it's something about the word that. It's like, oh no, I'm not doing that shit. Like the shit is implied, like I ain't,

bro I'm not fit to go do that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not even quite sure how they got her to do it the first time, but this time around, yeah, no, I'm not doing that. I'm way too much money. Yeah. So I don't know what her current,

she currently is employed. That what? Nothing. So I don't know what she's currently does for a living, but she didn't even make it sound like, wow, survivor 50. That would be cool. It'd be an honor. And not at my point in my life. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. Yeah. I'm telling you, shit is implied. I ain't doing that. Is what she said. Like she basically said, well, get the fuck out. You know, summer updates, not doing that. So far. Okay. No, I'm not doing survivor. That is funny

though. I not doing that. I'm going to be back there with like snacks. Fun summer updates. Survivor, I'm not doing that. Somebody, somebody tell her that it's roughly two weeks that she might reconsider. I think she thinks it's still survivor. Like back when she was you in it for like, uh, she went 39 days and didn't even get stuff. I don't think. And they damn near drowned in that. Yeah. Like they like, they're like, they were, they were out there in the trenches. Okay. I love this clip. Fun summer updates so far. So far. Okay. No, I'm not doing survivor. That is funny though. I'm not doing that. What were the rest of the fun summer updates?

She does end up going to say something in the longer version of the clip. I did see that before, but she does reiterate. I will not be in Fiji. I am not doing survivors. Like she makes sure to, like she doubles down. If you you are if this is a rumor It is a funny rumor, but it's it but y'all made that shit up Like she said she basically said that's a joke like don't play with me. Mm-hmm But there was so much smoke about you that you don't think that they were in conversations But that's the thing. No, I don't now after this reaction Like maybe there was a conversation where she was like,

I need X amount of dollars. And they were like, we're not gonna pay you that much money. She said, then I'm not doing that. Yeah. I got snacks in the back. Actually, I cannot be bothered. That's the energy it's giving.

Yeah, I wonder maybe if there might've been a conversation and then there was not an agreement that could have been reached together. But in my mind, Rob, Survivor 50 is in the hands of the fans. I just want to know which fans made you feel like that this could have been where we need to go with Survivor 50, you know, which fans were like, bring back. See, I think we're going to disagree on this one,

because I would have liked to have seen it. I thought that that would have been an exciting thing to have. Based on the riveting gameplay from her first time around? I mean, I think that based off of some of the things we're hearing, I don't think we're necessarily stuck to gameplay in terms of, like, I don't think we're necessarily trying to look at maybe the best, like, you know, whatever number amount of best game players ever.

But I think that somebody who character moments, uh, somebody who really had maybe the most successful career outside of the show, if not one of the top four people to, to possibly bring them back at a point where you're trying to get as much attention as possible. I think that that would have been stuff that would melt my brain to try to imagine what that would look like. And I think that that's very interesting.

Okay, that's fair, that's fair. If you are looking for clicks and likes and engagement, you want people to tune in that haven't tuned in in a while, you need big names to bring people back to Survivor. I'm sure she's top five, seven. I think she's somebody who I never could have ever imagined even being associated with the show in some capacity. I think her, Colleen, you know, there's maybe like a handful of other people that have just like gone, like Chase Rice, I think would be like in that category of people that like, they did Survivor and then like, it would be really absurd to see them back in Survivor.

And I think that that would be very interesting. I think that absurd is the word that I was looking for as well. I think that it would have been absurd and absurdity will get your attention because I think that, and look, survivor, survivor 50 has, they still have the opportunity to be absurd Rob. They still could do that.

But I do think that Elizabeth Hasselbeck, like you're saying Chase Rice, these big names, Jimmy Johnson, 81 year old Jimmy Johnson. You know, if they did something like that, I think people are gonna tune in worldwide. And also that based off of like Elizabeth's career on the view, we know that she is not averse to conflict and conflict on television.

And that's not really a big part of the show where it stands right now. But couldn't you imagine a scenario where she, like adult Elizabeth Hasselbeck, which that 20, I don't know if it was 23, 24 year adult Elizabeth Hasselbeck, which that 20 I don't know which was 23 24 year old Elizabeth Hasselbeck. I mean she truly was America's sweetheart She embodied everything that was you know pure and I this is something I've talked about a lot where I look at survivor characters and there's like a polarity there where because of like and and there was the double polarity in

survivor all the Australian outback of both Elizabeth and Tina wholesome pure Like nothing like they are like the idealized version of at that point in time I think how what society expected out of a woman Okay I may be so bold to say that. And then by contrast you had Jerry, who was a little bit more of the antithesis of that. And just that

comparison made Elizabeth and Tina more wholesome and made Jerry more, oh, the devil, you know? So I think that adult Elizabeth Hasselbeck, certainly not afraid to ruffle a few feathers and mix it up, could certainly see her getting, especially under the conditions, getting into some dust-ups with some of the other players and maybe not so much giving a you-know-what. Yeah, maybe. I mean, there is a you know what. Yeah, maybe. I mean, there is a potential for some conflict there,

but I do think that they also have to leave like the room for, she could just quit. She could literally just be like, I'm going home. Totally realistic possibility that could happen. Did you hear how she said, like, I'm not doing that. She's looking for a reason to quit. First, we're gonna get birthed into the game, in the mud.

Survivor, that is funny though. I'm not doing that. Um. Rob, that has to make it way on the soundboard for some reason. You know what? We don't have a lot of things in modern day that belong in the soundboard, but.

That's one of them ones. Yeah. That's hilarious. That's funny. Not doing that. That's funny. Funny joke. Not doing that. All right. Let's go chicken and waffles. That's hilarious. Not doing that. Funny joke. Not doing that. Yeah. All right.

She might have won with that one. I give her something every now and then. Not doing that. Yeah. Okay. As she just is like so dismissive, like doesn't even look at the camera when she says that. Right. She's going to be out by the pool with snacks.

With snacks. And I'm sure they will find other people who kind of echo Elizabeth Hasselbeck's sentiments to represent the portion of the population that really enjoys that type of energy. I'm sure they can go and get some of those people for Survivor TV. And I understand, okay? I don't want to, if I'm not already cancelled, okay I can't there's there's a portion of the Survivor viewers is they're like I I don't want to watch her. I don't agree with her politics

I don't agree and again, I don't have a list in front of me of everything. She's ever said so who knows she's ever said. So who knows? I don't know if you've ever seen a documentary. Well, not everything that she's ever said, but I'm on top 15. So, but I, and I totally get that, but, but you know, she's not going to be out on survive. Like what you're going to watch on survivor is not going to be okay. Like that's not going to be what's on the show. Right. Right. I just feel like it's been done better. You know, like we have that like she's like she was like the archetype for that.

Right. Like, you know, we've seen other versions. That's all I will say. So yeah. So who knows? Fingers crossed. But I do think that's hilarious. Owen had another funny TikTok too.

I think he called Xander his thought daughter. It was, there's a lot. Thought daughter. Yeah. I thought daughter. Yeah. Oh, when tweet Owen is posting everywhere this week. Oh, Oh, I might be the MVP of a club condo here for the postseason. I love him. Okay. We sell this is, let me see if I can share this one got another Owen Knight post where Owen said I spent half of 48 thinking I was spoiled on the winner Cedric a lot of the cast was in New Orleans for Stephanie's premiere

and Cedric was in a nice hotel overheard someone said if I had won have stayed there. Based on the inflection, I thought Cedric won and was very confused by this edit. Yeah, I would have been very confused as well. I'd have been shocked. Like, oh, this is such a weird edit. He's getting voted out. When are they gonna bring in Edge of Extinction?

I would have thought the exact same way. Yeah, Cedric as a winner, that would have thought the exact same way. Yeah. Cedric, as a winner, that has been a crazy thing to see. Cedric voted for Joe. He said, he's a dad, like what you said about dads. That's cool. That was another chance to write a new name down. He'd done it, he'd done so many, so many names. He wrote down, add Joe to the list.

Somebody had to write Joe's name down. Were you surprised that Joe only got one? I really was after that edit. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Could Joe have won this season? Perhaps there is a thing he could have said at survive the final Tropic Council. But I think that Joe would cease to be Joe. It's like, you know, if you know, my cat had wings, it would be a bird. I don't know what the expression is, but that's not who he is. Like there is a, like somebody could have quantum leaped

into his body, I think, and have given a final trial counsel speech that could have done it, but that's not who Joe was. Yeah, I just wanna know if it's like a world where he could have like actually got the votes being who he is. And I agree, Rob, I don't if it's like a world where he could have like actually got the votes being who he is and I Agree, right? I don't think it's there. They talked about on the jury how like oh if you know, um, if Camilla had made it to the end then there's a possibility that she would have won right against anybody star said it

So, you know grain of salt, uh, and so uh, cuz star also said well who else am I gonna vote for? Uh, so I don't know. But, you know, I could see a world where Camilla, Kyle, and Eva are at the end, and Camilla possibly wins that. I could see Mitch, Eva, and Kyle being at the end, and Kyle would win that, but Eva would be a close second. But, like, I don't know what iteration of this Joe ends up winning.

Like, I don't... I think he loses, like... I think he's in the final five, final five. Maybe David was like, that was the big mistake for him of voting out David. Right. Or maybe like deep down, they all hated Shaheen or something like that. We never saw it. You know, Joe, maybe taking Mitch and I don't know, Mary, maybe you could have done something with that. You know, I just, I'm just saying, tough, tough, tough call to say I'm gonna go to the end with somebody who can beat you.

And he decided to go to the end with somebody who could beat him at a very early stage. Chappelle, this came across my desk this week. This is from a person on TikTok. Actually, the first person to show this to me actually was my wife, and I'm not sure if she follows this TikTok account, but let me share this with you.

This is from a man who has been going back and watching old seasons of Survivor for the first time, and then posting about them on TikTok. His name is Tony Squares. Tony has a decent TikTok following, 25,000 followers, but apparently he's got some folks following what's going on with his Survivor takes. Okay, so here is a little bit of Tony squares talking about survivor the Amazon History of survivors. This is the horniest man in the history of survivor

My name is Tony squares and I'm watching every single season of survivor leading up to survivor 50 today It's season 6 the Amazon battle of the sexes. They should respond to the horniest man um Give me a top five. Um Battle of the sexes. Should I respond to the horniest man? Give me a top five. Well, some of them are redacted. Yeah, we can't talk about some of them because they did some weird stuff. Yeah, I don't think so. I think you win based on that. I don't think so.

Come on. Based on that alone, I think you win. Come on. Maybe it was hammer time. Horniest conventional perv. Yeah. I mean, see, that's the thing that got you on this list in. Come on. It was hammer time. Horniest conventional per. Yeah. I mean, see, that's the thing that got you on this list in the first place. Don't call it that. OK. That's how you ended up here in the first place.

All right. They split up the men and the women leaving this hornball to wonder, what are the women thinking of him? Maybe some girls out there in the other tribe want to get with me. This man doesn't. Maybe. Why would that be so crazy? Why do you can't say maybe you can't leave that out in the in the open for people to just decide you didn't say i know they want to get

with me i'm they ready yeah oh i'm sorry i was talking about my feelings right i'm sorry i have high self-esteem also you got you're giving dreamboat in this picture like i'm look at you rob it was like 90s five okay i Okay, I'll see you, boy. Yeah. Shut up for 16 hours of television saying some things that don't stand the test of time. When you're a guy that looks like you, then you realize that the only chance I have with either of those two girls is if they get really drunk. And all of it leads back to-

Now, look, the effects of alcohol are well documented. Right. And look, the goggles. You put some beer goggles on and you might start to just be a little bit looser about how you feel about somebody. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm gonna take advantage of them. Said they might decide, okay, whatever.

Yeah. Okay, like, oh, sorry. I'm sorry. They're making poor decisions. Like, you know. I believe there's a movie where it says, I can be that mistake yeah yeah okay that happens that's that's part of human nature okay

yeah I mean Chappelle have you ever done anything that you regretted after the effects of alcohol I would have to drink to do that you know I don't do that so that's true okay excuse me back to him acting like a teenager who just got his first hard on she is so hot she could put Viagra out of business. It's Viagra even in business. I mean, I know they make, I know they look, I know they make money, but you remember Viagra used to be a thing. It was the hot topic on the streets back then. You made a topical reference. Yeah. Your honor. I'm sorry. This is not admissible. I think you have a lot of competitors from what I see. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It used to be like, like the new hit.

As a man in my 40s, I can tell you, I am heavily targeted by multiple sponsors. Not because I have a podcast. I'm sure your algorithm is cooked. I think because I'm alive. Your algorithm is cooked. Yeah, I can't go on Facebook without a lot of different, a lot of different medication companies

are targeting your boy. Right, look, Viagra ain't going nowhere. But what I'm just saying is that back then, it was a topical reference that you made. It wasn't like, you know, like, oh, like, what is this wonder drug he's speaking of? You know, like, people knew what you were talking about. Yeah, okay.

Was a major player, lasting all the way to the end, forming alliances with everybody, backstabbing everybody, fantastic survivor, early season player. But dude, chill out. To be in such close contact with this girl and not have to have a handful of singles. So unsurprisingly, I don't even remember saying that. I've seen that episode so many times. I think they put that in.

I think that was a bit fake. Also, this confessional cam is crazy. Why the hell is it that close to your face? He's like, you are laying next to a log. Oh, I had been drinking that day. That was the day that they had like, we'd finished off the beers that they got with the merge feast. Drunk Rob is like a top five character in general,

because Drunk Rob will go on to say, I wish I had some singles for this woman, and then to go up to her and be like, hey, I'm gonna take you to the end because I can beat you. And she's like, oh, okay. She'll be okay with that, right? A little drunk, but it's cool.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Look at this guy. What do I know? You think that I was spending a lot of time at strip clubs? I mean, were you? No. Okay, okay. I don't know, I'm trying to assume.

Rob, this is a very good picture to you. Don't get too excited that I'm a more interesting person than I actually am. I was living in my parents' basement during this time. I know a lot of people live in that basement who make it time for the strip club. I don't want to say that. Okay. Yeah.

Rob becomes our third addition to the All-Horn team. And I will say, after seeing this- I am scared to know who else is on the all horn team Team like you know, I don't watch the rest of Tony's work I don't know. Is he cataloging who's horny or is this like a devil sort of like is that what he's saying? Oh No, no, I think this is the horny the horny team, you know, I don't even want to know who else is on all. I want to know. Matter of fact, I'm pretty sure we can figure it out. This is, you weren't that far into survivor by then. I'm sure there

was a few that we could have come up with. Matter of fact, we don't want to talk about them. Listen, he better not have been, he just watched Thailand. Okay. That's what I'm going to say. Listen, I can put number look. Okay. That man, he's nevermind jail. Anyway, keep Thailand. Okay. That's what I'm gonna say. Listen, I can put number look. Okay. That man is nevermind jail. Anyway, keep going. Yeah. Worry about yourself, Tony.

Who's getting canceled now? Okay. Right. All right. Cass, I get it. We don't have these other women judging us telling us what we should and shouldn't be doing. Tell you what, this was a fantastic season of Surviv. Heidi and Jenna being two of the absolute highlights.

And let me tell you, Hugh Hefner knocked it out of the park. But jokes aside, there were so many- And why is he allowed to make a joke and I can't joke? Right. Yeah, Tony, boo. Use a little horny, Tony. Fun character, strong personalities, and stronger players. And so full of lust.

I loved almost every- Yeah, what was going on here with Alex and Shawna and Matthew three tickets to challengers, please. Oh yeah. I think Matthew would have probably been okay with that, but Alex was not having it. I was like, no, thank you. What except you, Roger. You like to see Tony. Okay. All right. There you go. So look, all in good fun that I appreciate what you had to say about my game, game as a player of Survivor.

My wife got that first. So I don't know what her algorithm is. Yeah, well, you know, her algorithm is things that can make me mad at Rob. You know, she's like, the algorithm is so smart, it knows. Yeah, it's like, yeah, algorithm is so smart. It knows. Yeah.

She's like, that's what we're going to talk about today. The Amazon. You're like, again, again, it's been 20 years. She's like, yeah, but I got a top. Did you hear my story about it? I showed to my kids that when I won the immunity challenge. No. Oh, yeah.

I told it on a couple other podcasts, but I'll say, my kids were like, dad, can you show us when, did you ever win immunity? I'm like, sit down, kids. I've been waiting your whole lives for this moment. And I put it on and there's, it's a question challenge. And they're like, wait, it's questions? And I'm like, yeah. Like, that's not Survivor, this is Big Brother.

Wow. How dare you, how dare you watch? And they asked the question, like first's not Survivor, this is Big Brother. Wow. How dare you, how dare you watch? And they asked the question, like first question is like, who here uses sex as a weapon? And they're like, dad, why are they saying this? Why are they being like that? I'm like, all right, I'm like, okay, that's just one question. They're like, who here do you have a crush on?

And then like. And you're like, but then the what? Like, which which player would you most like to see pose nude in a magazine? And they were like, why is it like this? And then I want to like, I'm like, what you see, I want like, you didn't even do anything. One guy put himself down for every answer. They did. he did.

Yeah, that's, I mean, interesting times. And Nicole was so pissed, so mad. She was mad, why? It's too soon? It's still too soon? Too soon. Still. Too soon. Still. Doesn't like hearing this talk about

girls getting naked in a magazine. Survival used to be risque. Who knew? I watched that season. Didn't like it. I wish my mom cared about me back when I was that age. Did you like watch whatever you want? I don't care.

Maybe it's for the best. You should have showed them the challenge where you were like, I'm gonna swim. And it was like, nah, I'm not gonna swim. Got in the boat. That's my favorite rival. Yeah, was he Nona on TV? Okay. All right. Let's bring in then. Okay. Uh, we've got, uh, one last thing planned here for our survivor 48 coverage. Uh,

and Brandon Donnelly, are you coming on for this? Be D. Let me know in the chat. Darling! You can, sure, certainly. All right, so here's Brandon Donlin. Happy Memorial Day to you, Brandon Donlin. Hey, I wasn't laying down. Nobody asked if I was laying down, I wasn't.

You definitely were not. Here we go. Do you know who was on the All-Horn team? Are you tracking that? I looked and we don't scratch it. Okay. That's a matter. You're my favorite member of the All Horn team by a lot. Yeah. Were we right? It looked like you were right on one certainly. Oh yeah. Definitely. I didn't see the first one. I'm curious who the first one was.

Okay. We'll get there. All right. Here we go. Here we go. So tell me about what we're gonna do here. We remember. So it's Memorial Day, and I figured, you know, Survivor 50 coming up, it's a chance to kind of reinvent, bring some things back to the franchise that we haven't seen in a minute. So I have just a couple things that have been missing from Survivor for 20 plus seasons, some 20 plus years. Some of these things that I'm assuming

we're not on the voted for, but will they come back for Survivor 50 as we have our memorial to things that are no longer with us from the game of the Survivor? Okay. Okay. Number one. Number one.

Which I, you know, I was thinking last night about this in particular and how cool this would be to do on season 50. This is the schoolyard pick. Schoolyard pick. Will that ever be back? I don't think it'll be back for Survivor 50. I feel like that in some of these other seasons,

like who cares? Like let them pick their three tribes. Like it's not like they do such a great job anyway of like, did you see the Vula tribe this season? Like they always have a disaster tribe anyway. Let them pick who's going to be on their tribes when they're strangers. But Chappelle for a returning player season, should they do a schoolyard pick?

Well, hell yeah. Why not? Why not? What's the worst thing that happened? You know, what's interesting about it is that you say, okay, my first thought is like, all right, but all the, that all the pregame alliances are going to be, but the fact that then everybody would have to then say, you know what? No particular reason. I'm just picking this person. We don't have a thing like that might be like, people will get their minds racing of like, why, you know, why did he just pick Misty Giles? They must be working together. It's like, okay, I need somebody who's good

in the challenges, but for no other reason, I'm gonna pick Sandra Diaz Twine. It's like, really? Really? Yeah, it's like, yeah, she's got, she's good at the, she thinks, she does things good. So Brandon, I say no to school year pick for star 50, but I do think a normal vanilla 18 person,

three tribe new era season, who cares? Why not? What's interesting is, thinking back, and correct me if I'm incorrect here, but I think season 23, South Pacific, Coach and Ozzy, they grab the eggs that have their tribe colors. Yeah, they smash them.

That's the last time there was any variance in terms of which tribe somebody ends up on that I wasn't producer set. And it's just crazy that that was now 15 years ago almost. We haven't had something like that since. So yeah, let them do it. Who cares? Who cares? And they came into the merge at equal numbers, I believe, like damn near.

And like it was pretty much like, you know, they were hoping for the Cochran flip to kind of, you know, to do the things. And so, yeah, that's crazy. They came to a rock draw on that season, essentially. So, yeah, it can be done. Also, bring back these outfits.

Why are they dressed like this? It is so funny to know that, like, if you show somebody that and say, what's what show is this? Nobody would say Survivor. OK. Nobody. All right.

You know what? I had GC in that huge-ass green polo shirt, that rockerwear shirt. I cite this. This is my first ever episode of Survivor, episode one of Gabon, that I watched live that night. And I think something about the aesthetic and the outfits is why I kept going. It was also the first season in HD.

Were you watching in HD? No, I was watching on a tube TV, I think. In the Donlon family basement. GC green shirt really popped in the HD though. Has never been greener. That's what they say. Bring GC back for 50. I stand on that.

Okay, all right. He's a small one, yes. All right, touchy subjects. Oh, the very challenge that I won my individual immunity on. It has been retired since season 29, when in San Juan del Sur, Jeff said, why don't you just pick who the winner is gonna be? So I guess there's a concern

that they could gamify it too much. I do think that Survivor has very much moved away from anything that could hurt a person's feelings, where I think it was a big part of the show way back then. So, Chappelle, should Touchy Subjects come back? Could this be the next thing like the auction that makes a return back to Survivor? Sure, why not? Survivor gets a little kumbaya these days. You know, all the people... Look, I'm not gonna lay the blame on anybody on this actual podcast with you and I, Rob,

but sometimes the Survivors, they're really close-knit. They love each other. They hang out. They're all good friends with Brandon Donlon. And so, yeah, this could definitely draw some lines in the sand. They're gonna start saying things about each other that maybe they just been thinking really hard. We got together as a cast, season 45, in the sand. They're gonna start saying things about each other that maybe they just been thinking really hard. We got together as a cast, season 45, after the season.

We got together in August, they filmed it in April, and we did like a live reality game that I was Jeff, and we had challenges. We did touchy subjects, and all the questions were positive. And I now, in the two years now since then, with Time to Breathe, we should have just been out for blood. I think it's fun to be out for blood. So I hope they do and I hope they're out for blood.

And I get it why you and your friend group don't wanna do a very mean touchy subjects, but if you're people who are making reality TV, like not the worst thing in the world to like do something that creates some conflict. Sure. So, and lots of conflict did come from this challenge over the years. I hope and I pray I say please bring it back.

I would be surprised if they ever did. Why? Why is everybody wearing ponchos? What was going on? I think that there was a challenge where one of the rewards, I think that Boston Rob got to give four people ponchos. I have no memory of that. Is that real? I believe that there was some, it might have been that they got videos from home and also Boston Rob, like negotiated for like, rather than he get his video, if everybody could like

drink hot cocoa and give them raincoats, it was something like that. And they didn't vote for that man? Crazy. They're people are crazy. Vote for Amber. Yeah. And then they gave, I think all the women have raincoats. Amber wasn't giving up no videos for home for y'all to get no ponchos. Y'all should have voted for Rob. Man, that man was robbed. All right. You're three.

A fighting challenge. OK, last also last seen here in San Juan del Sur. We didn't know how good we had it when Sumo at Sea featured Jacqueline versus Wentworth. OK, Chappelle, will we ever see a fighting challenge back on Survivor? We'll never see one as good as Baylor fighting her mom. Yeah. And being like, picture me, like I'm gonna picture you

like the guys that hurt you, like what? Yeah, but you know, we don't even have a, if we have a fighting challenge, we don't even do a challenge where it's like, all right, here's Chappelle taking on Misty Giles. You know, we don't even get like any challenge that's like some kind of a head to head type thing where they've done, like they used to do in the past,

like you have like a little like a tray with a statue on it, knock the other person's statue off. That's not even like fighting. We don't do stuff like that anymore. They did that challenge too where they would wrestle off the pole. Off the pole. I mean, I don't think they would ever do that again.

You can hurt yourself. That got physical. Randy in that challenge is slamming Paloma saying, you're done. Or the thing where you got to go dig up the bag and then run it back to your mat. And all I hear is Courtney Yates, break his shoulder, you know, like that kind of thing.

We don't do that anymore. We don't need a fighting challenge. We don't need a fighting challenge. I think that we gotta talk about it. You know, people don't want, I don't want anybody getting hurt because they went out on survival. Okay, I don't think we'll ever do a fighting challenge again,

and maybe this is an insurance issue, but I feel I would love to see challenges that are back to some kind of a duel, whether it's I we've seen it in the past, we're like, two people are on a log. Can you like get the other person to like fall off? Like there's things that you can do that are not, you know, hit each other. That could be head to head just to differentiate some of the challenges. I think the case for this, for 50,

is like everybody's playing a second time. They know everybody well enough. I feel like you could do something like this and everybody would be game. Not to say the first time players would be game, but I think that now it's like an extra level of insurance that we know who you're getting. Yeah, insurance literally or figuratively?

Figuratively, not literally. I also think that this is also part of that we have killed the two tribe format. And so that I think that to do some kind of duels with three tribes is imminently more complicated. So that may also be a reason why that has fallen by the wayside. All right.

And there's no, there's no world where we bring back the two tribe format for 15. Never say never Chappelle. Okay. We shall see. All right. Rites of passage. I think that they, they have to do this for survivor 50.

If they don't do this for survivor 50, this is malpractice. I think only for 50. I don't want to see this shit. I don't, at 51, I don't care. I don't care. The show ain't long enough for us to miss these people. Honestly, they could have fit the passage in on Wednesday night. We could have done

it right. Like, remember Stephanie, the whole new arrow on Wednesday night. You know, remember everybody's 40 does 40 have a right to pass? No,, because it was everybody was on the edge. Nobody was eliminated. So Jeff sort of like did like a round table with everybody. But they should do it for 50. They should do it for 40. And it's just like, remember Sandra? This is like the only one who's left. Remember Sandra? Y'all remember her?

Yeah. Yeah. They should do it for 50. Okay. Bring it back for 50 rites of passage. Okay. What else you got? We've got a normal auction.

No, forget it. We're not doing a normal auction ever again. They're only there for 20 days. They're not even that hungry. I hate the running around for the auction. It wasn't that. They can get rid of that. They can get rid of that too.

But the normal auction doesn't do what they're going to do. Jeff, we're all waiting for an advantage. It's like, okay. No advantage. Yeah. Okay. Hold on. Like, I'm going to just check with Jeff real quick to see if we might be able to.

Jeff, can we get a normal auction one of these days? Is that possible, please? Like a normal auction? No, doing that. Yeah. OK. Not doing it. The Jeff Jeff may do. Oh, I'm sorry. We have two more family visit. Family visit. 26 day game. Could we get the family visit for season 50 Chappelle? Tom good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. We are. I suspect not. I don't think so. I'm good. I'm good.

I hope so. Right. Because then it's dead. But you know what? They also they brought back everybody's family for season 40. I think they feel like, OK, if we can't top that, what are we doing? Like, and they get as much drama, they feel like probably out of the letters. Yeah, it's about the same. Yeah, and then you have the sanctuary, where that's a whole thing that you can do, people's voices playing over the thing.

Yeah, I don't need the family visit. I'm good. Thank you. If you Google survivor family visit, this image comes up, and I wish it didn't, because then I had to remember what happened, you know, in this instance. Okay. Next.

And then Jeff doing some Tom Cruise-ish with the votes. Could that happen for season 50? I think, especially if we have the live finale reunion show in Los Angeles, I think that there is a healthy chance that this could happen, Chapelle. If we get a live reunion show, he has to do it. There's no, why would you not do it? You know, what's the downside? You know, or the thing that, you know, where they like,

oh, we're all wearing the same exact outfit that we were wearing on the island. And it was like, but we took a bath, you know, like, they could do that. They have to do it. Why not? I hope, I pray to God that we do a live finale for 450. Like, just give us something. If the fans voted for it, the fans may not have voted. They don't care about the fans. They don't care about the fans.

The fans voted for that. How many, do you think anybody liked the Survivor after show? No. Jeff says, hey Kyle, could you answer this question? Well, I'm gonna let you finish. You eat your pizza. I'm just gonna leave you alone. I said, what the hell are you doing here? They're all eating pizza. What's so funny is that I was at the Bryson Wendell finale party for season 48 just the other day. And the after show's on and then the next game was on at the same time. So right about as they're gonna play the Survivor 49 preview,

which is the best part of the after show, they cut it and they switched to the next game. Which was also a sad story. Yeah, also a sad story. So I watched it on my phone with a bunch of fans who huddled around my phone to watch the next game. Which was also a sad story. Yeah, also a sad story. So I watched it on my phone with a bunch of fans who huddled around my phone to watch the 49 preview. We couldn't hear it, but we saw the glimpse of the Rizgan. Jeff said to Kyle, Kyle, so could you tell us,

how is it feeling? Can you tell us about that? Kyle's like. I'm not doing that. No. You can come back to me. I haven't actually felt it yet, because I'm eating, and it happened three seconds ago. like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no we had a lot, we had a lot. I think that, you know, we had a whole season to look back at, but we also have season 49 and 50 to look forward to. 49, I am concerned that 49 might be a footnote at the end, you know, because of all this stuff. People cared about Samoa. People, you know, care, well, people cared about Samoa.

Yeah, people cared about Samoa. People cared about the islands. People loved Pearl islands. Um, me and people, um, it was a long time ago. Uh, but yeah, 49, I was afraid it might be a footnote. I think we're going to keep the energy going through 49. And then of course we have this week. Survivor 50 cast will be announced and it's going to be a momentous occasion because again, this is the first time we're going to get

something so big, a season that we'll look at all previous seasons up till 48 and maybe 49 to cast. We'll find out who that is. And then I'm sure everybody's going to hear it and they're going to act completely normal and rational about it. And no one is going to complain. All right. And if any exciting news is breaking,

Club Kondo will be here to pick it up. Okay? no one is going to comply. All right. And if any exciting news is breaking, a club condo will be here to pick it up. Okay. Yeah. I give you green light for emergency club condo whenever necessary. Chappelle. Oh, please tag me in for that because right now I'm just kind of, I feel like I'm in limbo. Yeah. Like I'm in the way I'm waiting on like the moment to happen. So then once it happens, I can jump in and do my thing. Yeah. All right.

Chappelle, what else is going on for you? Definitely check out the Nothing But Netflix podcast. Sasha and I are talking about Sneaky Links. The YouTube video is up on the RHF YouTube account, and then we will be covering the entire season this week. So check that out on Nothing But Netflix and subscribe to Nothing But Netflix to nethepipod.com to do that. All right. And then, yeah, recap kickback. We have Forever, the coverage of Forever on Netflix as the number one show on Netflix, I believe. We talked about it. And so, you know, got a lot of that stuff going on.

Chantel and I are still popping the balloon for one more week and then who knows what's next. But I'll be here ready because I want to talk about 50. then of course Big Brother is coming soon too Rod so hopefully a lot more shopping in the future. Five, six weeks to go for Big Brother of course the slop is coming to the Patreon feed once again so be on the lookout for that. On Tuesday I will have a great podcast with a guest that I was trying to get on during the season. It did not work out with them during the season, but they are going to share some of their post season post game thoughts with us, making some time for us. I appreciate it. And so I'm not sure if we've announced that.

So I'm just going to say, just stay tuned for a pretty good guest on Tuesday. I'm sitting here like on the edge of my seat, waiting on you to say it. And now I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about. Okay. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you, Brandon. Thank you everybody for joining us.

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