RHAP: We Know Survivor - Cydney Gillon Brings Back the Heat

Episode Date: October 26, 2025

Cydney Gillon Brings Back the Heat It’s time to take a trip back to the Old School! All season long, Rob Cesternino is bringing legendary Survivor alumni onto the podcast to break down Survivor 49 through the eyes of those who played in the game’s early days. This week, Rob and Survivor: Kaôh R?ng competitor, […]

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because I'm so honored to be back talking with somebody who I only did one podcast with Ever. And it was a great one. And she says, okay, once every 10 years, I will come and talk to you. So back with us from Survivor Co-Rong. It's Sidney Gillen. Sydney, how are you? I'm good, Rob. I am just living a dream here and rolling with the punches of life and take it one day at a time.

Okay. Well, I'm so thrilled that you made this time to talk and really looking forward to hearing about your thoughts on Survivor and everything that you've been up to. And I know that the fans are really excited for this one too. Yeah. I'm excited to be here. It's going to be fun. Okay. Sydney, I know that you know that our bodies are a temple and a big pillar of that is getting enough sleep. And so I think that you will not mind that we have a great sponsor for this episode of the podcast. Our friends over at Manta Sleep, makers of all sorts of things that help you get better rest. 10% off MantaSleep.com, promo code RHAP 49. Okay. Sydney, so of course, I think we last saw you as a survivor back in Survivor Co-Rong, which was season 32. Believe it or not, we're on season 49.

It's been 17 seasons since we got to see you. and I know that you have been so busy in the world outside of Survivor. Can you tell people what you've been up to and everything that you've accomplished since then? Well, since then, so when I was on Survivor, I was 22. So once I got out of the air, at the time, right, long time, 33 now. So it's been a journey. I was literally 22 and broke, just trying to make ends meet and get from point to point B. And really, once I got off the show, that's what I started to do.

And Survivor really changed my life in that aspect because it gave me, that one little check I needed to get my life going on, going the right direction and where I knew I was going to right direction, but it gave me that little bump to where I could actually get the financial means to move from 1A to point point B. So that's pretty much what happened. And once that happened, my career pretty much took off in the bodybuilding space because it went from me not placing, well, I placed top five the next year in one of the biggest shows in the world. Then I went on to place and beat people who had beat me prior. And the next thing you know, I was top three at the Olympia. And next year, I was winning for the next year. I was winning for the

next eight years better part of a decade of just being the world champion yeah um it's really incredible i'm looking at a post of all of the different uh things that you accomplished and uh it's really amazing are are you now uh still competing at that level i just retired last year so after i won my eighth world title i was like hey y'all could have it eight titles eight consecutive i was The only person in history to do that for my category. Yes. Wow. Okay.

That's extremely impressive. Why did you choose now to retire? You're going to go out on top? Well, that was a part of it, but a large part of it was getting a call from Survivor. Okay. So it was like, okay, I didn't want to risk not being able to get my body back where I need to be. So I was like, you know what? Instead of putting the pressure on there, I'll just retire now.

I've already done everything I need to do, and then I'll just move from there. Okay. all right let's jump right into that then so all right you got the call for survivor 50 and so I follow these rumors very closely and I did see that you were somebody that they were talking to and so you had won eight consecutive bodybuilding championships and you said you know what for the chance to go back to survivor I'm going to retire for my career yep and I was I thought about it for a second, I said, you know, there's only so much you can do in a sport. Yeah, I could have gone for a nine. I could have gone for 10, but for what? If I already felt like I was comfortable

what I'm doing, I just knew it was a time to pivot. And so I said, okay, weigh the odds, way the benefits. And I said, Survivor is just way bigger an aspect of what I can grow from. I've already grown a lot within my industry. And I'm already at the top of my game. And so it's like, okay, time to pivot. Let's go do something else that's really, really fun. And so this whole year, I've just been living life and doing things that I don't normally do. And that would be a huge one that really take me out of my norm and toss me all the way across the world. So when you talk about growing from Survivor, you're talking about there's personal growth that you feel like would have come from Survivor. Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's the key.

Because I learned so much, you learn so much as a competitor anyway, just as an athlete anyway. And so I felt like that was fulfilled on the bodybuilding form. But when you are tossed into the middle of the jungle with no food and with strangers, there's nothing that will create a different person more than that or really show you who you are. And so the growth that I had mentally from the first experience, I only knew what would get better for the second time. Did you feel like that you got a lot out of your first experience that helped you get to where you got in your career following Survivor?

I wouldn't, I think they meshed perfectly. I was already who I was prior to Survivor. I was already very straightforward, already very driven, already very relentless, already had all the key things that made me a good survivor because I was already doing them in my regular life. So when I was already doing my regular life, I just took regular me, put survivor me, and added a couple of lies on top. That's it.

So that's the only real difference between me as an athlete in person and me playing Survivor, I just lie a little extra. Okay. So I'm sure everybody who's listening to this podcast so far is asking the question, what the hell? I saw who's on Survivor 50, and I don't see Sidney. What happened? I don't know.

All I know is we were going, going, going, and it was a very way longer process in the first time. Way longer process in the first time. Tell me about it. So did all the talking, all that stuff. And then literally by the time April hits, I'm looking like, hey, we're about to, we should be, about to be filming now. Yeah. April hit. I got the call.

And it wasn't me. And I said, oh. Okay. And that was it. And then I saw the list too. And I was, I was, I was confused. I was that. Did you feel like it was going well? Did you feel like that, okay, that I really feel like that this is going in a very positive trajectory? I did. I don't think there was anything different than what I did the first time. Yeah. I literally was myself and that, that was it. So I wouldn't see why I would be any issue going into this season. Like, you already loved me before. Why not now? Yeah. Because you're somebody who your name has come up. constantly since you played, and I know that there probably, we could talk about this,

there were probably times where they might have called you and you were in the midst of your career and couldn't have done it. But people have really clamored to see you come back. Were there other times where Survivor wanted you and the timing wasn't right for you? A bunch of times. And so I was like, okay, but you still reach out this time. So clearly I should be okay from that. So soon I got off, there were a few times that they reached out. I just was like, I can't do it, guys. Because that was when my career was just starting. I knew I was going to get to eight or get to 10.

I knew where I was going, and I couldn't allow anything to take me off that trajectory. So I couldn't go back during the times in which they had already called me back. Otherwise, I definitely would have. And I know you obviously were disappointed that you didn't get to go do that. But did you feel particularly hurt that you had accomplished these eight world titles and then took off the quest to go for the ninth. world title to pursue survivor. And then it didn't happen.

Excellent question, Rob. Yes and no. I definitely was taken aback because I thought it was, I wouldn't say I thought it was a shoe in. Nothing's a shoeing. But I thought that I would definitely be able to make it out of the amount of people that were left. Not knowing how many spots are being held for these people

or new people and stuff like that. I didn't know all that information. But I'm just saying, based numerically, I'm like, okay, if people have won me back, You've asked me back numerous times. Why would this not be the time? When the one time where I could clear my whole slate, I'm like, yeah, I'm ready to go. But not getting it was actually a blessing.

I think that it was probably the best thing I can have for me. It was not for us. Not for y'all. Because I was ready to play, y'all. I was about to get the scheme and I was going to have a good time, okay? I was really going to show out like another level than I was before. But when it didn't work out, I was like, you know what? Okay, time to pivot.

It's okay. and then you'll bounce back and you'll do something else. Yes. I know you did do something else. Are you able to tell people what you ended up doing? Okay. We get back. Okay.

Well, stay tuned. Stay tuned. And maybe you'll find out. Okay. Yeah. You know, did they give you any reason as to why I know that they feel like that they are putting a puzzle together and for whatever reason that it doesn't work out? but did they give you any insight into why not you, not now?

I asked. Yeah. There was nothing. Yeah. It just, it was kind of like a general blanket statement of, oh, maybe next time or something like that.

Or more so you can go do other shows. And so I'm like, okay. So I definitely asked, I was curious. I honestly generally want to know whatever the answer, whatever it was. So I,

and in my brain I couldn't really piece together. Why not? More so because, not to be shady, y'all know i tell it how it is you have people who are on international television trying to quit and you bring them back that's crazy to me that's crazy like why would you do that you already disrespect the game bringing somebody back who wants to play the whole time and i quit so that was more so kind of a somewhat slap in the face to me and to other people who i know

we're going forward to like i don't care if it wasn't me but put somebody else who was shown they wanted to be there and was ready to play cindy so i know i know know that you had not been following Survivor super closely in the last a little bit, but to get ready to go, had you started to tune back into the new era survivor? Oh, yeah. I was watching up until I didn't get it. At that point, I'm like, oh, well, I don't, I mean, nothing for me to do anymore now. Yeah. It's kind of just, it just, it just, yeah, it wasn't, there was no reason to at that point. Mm-hmm. Have you watched any of this season?

that's on now? Not a lick. I could tell you about it. Tell me about it. Let's tell me about it. We'll get there. We'll get there. But that's not the most important thing that we can talk about right now. I would love to know a little bit more about your background that you said you were just 22 when you went and played Survivor. How did Survivor end up finding you? It was an accident. So I was getting ready for my first world championship. And I started doing a lot of cardio. So I would do, we did like, fast and fire base. We did on an

empty stomach and so I just started watching shows and then randomly I'm like this is back what was that application it was a website back in like the line wire days remember you used to kind of download what line wire it was kind of back in that yeah so I clicked on it and I was like okay let me just start watching Survivor so I just randomly clicked an episode started watching it kid you not Rob the same night I go upstairs I happen to be just up at 3m I see a casting call pop up on the TV mind you I never watched TV at night so it popped up on a casting call for Woodstock, the exact same night, I started watching Survivor. And I told my mom, I was like, hey, Ma, I think I want to go do this.

She was like, you can't swim, you don't like bugs, you don't go outdoors. And I said, yeah, I get all that. But guess what? I'm going to test. I'm going to try it out. And we went to the casting call that weekend. And then that was all she wrote. I killed it because I just was myself and I answered the questions, how I answered

questions. And that was it. And that was it. I just answered the question. And that was it. Yeah. And then did you have any hesitation going to go do it considering that you were already involved in bodybuilding, that the toll that it was going

to take on your body? I didn't know what the full toll was going to be, quite honestly. I honestly, I was so oblivious. I didn't even know when the game was starting. So I just literally was just, I was out here winging it. And so going in, I was like, okay, let me eat a little bit more because I really, most of I don't realize, I got right off of stage a week later. I was on the island.

So I was doing the Arnold Figure International, which I was. a second biggest show in the world. I got right off stage. I said, let me eat as much as I can for a week. And then I was right back on the island. So I was already kind of primed to be in a deficit. So that wasn't as impactful. But it just, the toll was a lot.

Like, I most of people don't realize I lost 26 pounds. I didn't have 26 pounds to lose. Yeah. But it's so interesting that you came back from Survivor. You did this. You went very far into the game. How much weight did you lose when you played? 26 whole pounds.

Okay. That was soaking wet with clothes on. All right. And so, but from that, you went and that's when you reached the highest highs of your career. How did you so quickly turn that around? That was the crazy part because when we got done with the show, we were on, we were going back to the airport. And I was like, yeah, I said, this is my last day to eat a little bit of ice cream because I got to start my diet tomorrow. And they were like, see what? I said, yeah, I start my diet tomorrow. I had a show to qualify for the Olympia in seven weeks once we got done with the show. Yeah. And so I got back and I said,

you can't do a real diet. You just have to eat as much as possible, just lean protein, carbs, fats, eat as much as you can and just lift as heavy as you can. And I did a show seven weeks later, it won. And then, but it took that entire year for me to learn how to restructure my body

because genetically I was able to make it look good enough just because my genetics are so just different than everybody else is so I can get away with it. But in terms of being my best body, it wasn't. I had the fight to get the little bit that I had. But it took me a year, probably a solid year minimum, to restructure and get the muscle back where you wanted it.

Do you feel like that discipline that you have to have to be a competitive bodybuilder with something that helped you in Survivor? It made everything easy. Once we start starving out, because if you know, you saw the show, like I always told Jason and I, we always laugh about this because it was like we went from the hood to middle class to rich. Every island was like a little step up. And so we were starved out initially.

So that's why we were diet. We didn't have any food. you might see one or two coconuts on the island, period. And so we were starved. And then you go to the Blue Tribe. Then it was like, okay, a little snail. You got a little urchin. You have more food.

By the time we got to the merge, oh, there's food everywhere. So, like, by that point, the discipline made the first portion easy. But by the end, that's when I was really thriving, which is what I need to thrive. Because I was like, okay, now I have a little bit more food. Other people, I wasn't winning. But other people winning stuff and giving me food. So I'm like, okay, now I'm in a reverse diet. So there's different things in my brain was like, all right, you got this.

All right, use this here, put this here, and strategize. Because so many survivors, when they get done with the show, that they have such a difficult relationship with food and eating. And it's really hard for the players to bounce back where a lot of the survivors that they sort of like yo-yo where, okay, they maybe lose 25, 30 pounds, but then they gain back 40 or 50 when they come back from the show. Yeah. And not muscle like you, Sydney.

Yeah, and that's, I saw people getting sick because it's, it can be very dangerous. There's even something called refeating syndrome. So if you don't strategize how you reverse out of a deep deficit like that, and that wasn't even a deficit, that was starvation. We were starved. That just is what it is. So once you get out of that, you have to just strategize how you implement the food back in. And a lot of people don't have that information going in, but that definitely helped me. Do you keep up with anybody that you played from Survivor Co-Rong?

The only person I talked to consistently, just literally text me yesterday was Jason. Yeah. The most ironic thing of the whole thing, that we've been besties for like this entire time. Yeah. We had a little rough patch originally. And then we, of course, corrected that, and then we've been good ever since. How about Scott? I follow on social media.

No, well, he, I know he had some health issues where that he was having some, you know, needed a transplant. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll go back on Twitter for any updates on that. Sydney, so what about Michelle and Aubrey, who have both played so much reality TV since Survivor Co-Rong? I haven't. Michelle and Aubrey and I, we kept in touch for like the years following. They came from my bodybuilding show where when we got done, that was prior to the votes being read, though. So that's a key thing to be noted. And then I saw Aubrey again. We hung out when I was going to USC in 2019. So we went to like a spa day, hung out and everything. But since then, you know, Aubrey had her baby and everything.

I haven't talked to either of them since that point. So at least 2019 for Aubrey, 2018 for Aubrey. And then I haven't spoken to Michelle at all. She might leave a comment or something on Instagram, but that's about it. Yeah. Are you surprised that, you know, they both played so much. but Michelle has really come into her own as a, like, legend of the challenge. That's what I've seen.

And it was the way I didn't really know because I do watch the challenge, but I didn't really know until other people were telling me kind of how great she was doing. I was like, that's very interesting to see, but I love that for her. So, I mean, I'm all for people coming into their own and really finding their voices and showing out how they need to show out. Yeah. So one of the things that I found so memorable about you was that you had so many great confessional. so many great quotes from your season of Survivor.

Is that something that in your industry that you're really known for, for how funny you are? No. Well, yes, people do know me for that. I literally just talk and then people just laugh. And that's about it. So, like, it's my friend, one of my friends that used to tell me,

they said you're talking tweets. And I was like, you know what? I think I do. So literally when I just talk in one-liners And whatever comes out, I've done better with determining a filter now. But back then, the filter was non-existent. And whatever, I'm thinking, you're going to get it. That's all you're getting.

Yeah. Did you know that's how you were going to be on reality TV? Oh, yeah. I didn't tend to be anybody else. So you're going to get me. You're going to get me. And especially in a confessional, but I can really pop my S words. Okay?

I'm going to talk all day long because it's the only time it's like therapy. Like, I'm going to say whatever the hell I want to say. So I definitely had a producer's dying laughing all the time because I was talking big. the whole time. So I've gotten so many links to what you're working on now. So can you talk a little bit about the types of things you're doing now? Well, more so I'm just kind of balancing around, trying to get back into the TV land. That'll be fun.

Ideally, the challenge if you're listening, I know you already hit me up. Hit me up again. I'm ready. Getting back into that, really that space because it's so much fun. It's so much fun being able to do things that you're not. going to do in regular life like jumping from buses and trains you're not doing that in regular life okay that's so interesting that i didn't know that you uh were looking to pursue opportunities like the challenge yeah they also reached out to me during the time while we're shutting everybody down

yeah but that's the thing is like i've shut everybody down now it's the time to be like hey i'm actually open now still in shape yeah ready to go okay well uh to all of you producers out there who are listening. Let's get Sidney back on television, okay? Somebody, somebody who's listening? You know, I don't know if you have, like, ranked, like, it sounded like Survivor would have been that for you, but is the challenge now, number one, for what you want to do? I can see the challenge being up there.

There's a couple other ones that one of my friends kind of started mentioning me to me, like even traitors, that could be fun. I can do something like that. So those are, I would say those might be my top too. Yeah. Because I think traders might be really, really fun. Yes. I'm not going to lie.

Okay. So how do you think you would do on the traders? I think I would kill it. I honestly think I would kill it. I'm not going to lie. I really think I, because the key thing is, is I'm so removed from reality TV. Unless you're a super fan or unless you rewashed my season,

you don't know enough. You're just going to get regular degler meat. So it's enough to kind of be like, you know, what's you write a name? Yeah. We don't know. Okay. So would you want to play the game as a traitor or faithful?

Oh, good question. I honestly think I would be good at both. Not going to lie. I think I would good at both. But I think the trader would be the most fun. Not going to lie. But, yeah. Yeah.

So if you were in that universe of the challenge, that do you feel like that you and Michelle would be able to pick up where you left off in the challenge? We would need to have. some talks. We would need to talk and get on the same page and see what the page is. Are we even the same book? See, I feel like as somebody who watched Survivor, and I know I don't get to, there's so much to happen after the show, but I feel like that you would be on the same page and you were a vote for Michelle to win, right? Oh, we were great together. But the key thing is,

one thing about me is I always watch patterns and consistency and longevity. So one thing about me also is If there's anybody who I did in life on the game, I don't talk to you now. That is, I don't game play, because I align with people who I like. I don't align with people I don't like. So that's the key thing, too. So for me, for the future, it's kind of finding, seeing, it's like new friendships. Are those people, it's been 10 years. We don't know each other anymore.

22 year old me is not that. I think Michelle was like around my age a little bit older. We're not the same people. Yeah. So I'd be curious to see what that even looks like. And if it would even need to be necessity, because at the end of the day, we both have different personality types. Yeah. And so how my life works and how I am just may not need to peer with anybody, really, until it needs to be pair.

Like, my people always find me. Whatever instance I am, they always find me. So if she wasn't one of those people, that would be unfortunate, but I know I would be okay regardless. I think you two would pick it up. Okay. I think so. Michelle's so easy to get along with. Mm-hmm.

she knows what she's doing if you came in as a rookie you know that would be crazy that would be crazy but you need you need somebody to sort of vouch for you yeah yeah

Cindy what does your shirt say I can only read thou shalt thou shall not try me no 24 seven yes do people make that mistake do people try you you know

around this year I'm going to say yeah besides maybe people that are making casting decisions for Survivor. Period. Yeah. But other than that, other people are trying you also?

I wouldn't say it's not large amounts, but there's always one or two tries to sneak in there and think you won't get snuck. But you know, I like to fight back, Rob. Okay.

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So like I just stopped watching probably this year. Yeah. So like I watched the New Age thing and all the things. era. I watched a new era. Yeah. And I think that was probably the mental part that I was like, hmm, are you, what, how would you do with this new era thing? Because the old school one was more like you couldn't control it, but you could. The new age one is just a whole bunch of different variables, different idols, different this, different that, luck here, luck here. And it's almost more out of your hands to the extent. And so when I watch people play now also with the shorter game

play and I don't know I just saw a lot of complaining about food and stuff and I just was like y'all would never have made it back in the day you would have never made it you would have never made it you would have never made it 39 days was rough I made it 37 and it was kicking me up so what do you say when players and the show talks about how like yeah it's 26 days but we give them no food now well I didn't have any food well I had no food yeah I'd have food for two weeks yeah so I'm like that y'all eating because every single time you turn around it's a reward challenge you're eating yeah you're eating all the time did they not have as many reward challenges in survivor car wrong i don't think i felt like they were spaced out with days but also i thought the first two weeks

we didn't get rewards and i well i lost a concept of time but for a good chunk of time i don't remember any rewards and the first reward was some forks and some salt where i almost passed out one, I almost, that is. So that was the first reward we were getting. Yeah. And that was well. And Beast mode cowboy almost died for the forks and salt. Exactly.

And you see how hard we had to work for that. And y'all just eating, y'all got buffet here, buffet here, a war here. No, it's not the same. And so to me, I wonder, too, I wouldn't call it easier. I feel like it's just different. Yeah. I felt it's a different game you have to play.

So this season, we hear from the Survivor, that this season, the weather is oppressive. It is one of the hottest seasons they've ever had. But I could have sworn back in season 32. We're in the middle of Khoron. Listen, we don't need them on heat, baby. Yeah. That's right.

Look, exactly. Fiji will never be Cambodia. That is a different type of heat. It will choke you. It did choke me. It will choke. choke you that heat is nothing like it yeah they're saying that the players are struggling this season with trying to like actually make the moves in the game like their brains are breaking

because it's so hot out there is that what was happening my team was that happened yeah is that what was happening in survivor co wrong were people's brains melting no we were functioning on 10,000 we were moving okay decisions were being made at all times we were making decisions And that was not, and that was with no food and heat and no water. Now, keep in mind, most of people don't realize we weren't even drinking water. By the time that I went down, we didn't have, because we couldn't make fire. We didn't have a Flint. So me, Jason Scott, Alicia, all of us, we weren't even drinking water.

Tell me, Sidney, why didn't you have a Flint in Survivor Cullerling? I don't remember. Because he couldn't win nothing. That's what I mean. Wait, that was like you, did you play in the new era? We didn't win anything. And so we couldn't even get out the gate. Good.

We couldn't even get a dog on foot to do it? Yeah, that's right. It used to be that you had to go to, like, win a challenge to get your Flint. So that's not necessarily a totally, like, a new era thing. But now if you lose a challenge, they take it away. Interesting. Okay. Yeah.

So. No, we didn't even get started. Okay. Because we talk a lot about in the new era that there's always a disaster tribe, but you guys early on were kind of a disaster tribe. Oh, pure disaster. pure disaster. It was just so much chaos from the personalities to the weather, to the food, to the,

it just was the perfect storm of us just suffering. But the crazy part is, and the good part is, is the people who are able to survive on our tribe are the people who know how to suffer. Because it was me, I know how to suffer and diet. Jason's ex-military. Scott is a professional athlete. We already know we can go into the trenches and make it out every time. It would be just fine.

One of the things from your tribe that we saw was that Jennifer had the bug crawled into her ear. Did you realize how serious that was until you saw the episode? No. I just was like, I just knew she was in pain. And I don't like to see people in pain unless I don't like you, then I don't care. But if I actually like you, we have a relationship, I'm like, damn, like she really is miserable. And I forget it like, okay, how long is the ear canal, all that stuff? But whole time, we were delusional.

It was our first day. We're sitting out here as my first time being homeless, and I'm looking like, this is traumatic. We didn't have any shelter. When I tell you, we were struggling, we had no shelter,

bro, no shelter, no water, no food. We're sitting out getting rained on first day. And I'm sitting here, me and me and Darnell, who else was by me? And Jen, too. We were all in a little floaty thingy, just to not be in the sand and have bucks crawling our ears

because that was the fear. And we just get rained down on and you wake up in the morning. you're just looking like, oh, I really, I really signed up for this. Yep. You know, you mentioned Darnell, and Darnell is somebody who he had such a body transformation after Survivor or Co-Rong. Did you play any- Oh, I've seen it what it was like?

Oh, he's like incredibly jacked and muscular. Oh, wow. Okay. I mean, I don't know if I've like, you know, I saw, I think I saw him like last year. You didn't know this? Bro, what I tell you? If I didn't know you for real, I don't know. You don't, I forget, I forget people quickly.

I'm not going to lie. No, he got, I just. I mean, because he was kind of like, he's always tall, but he was like a skinnier guy on Survivor Carole. Yeah, I'll send you pictures. Yeah, for you, he was sweet. Sam, can you find a picture of Darnell from his Instagram so we could show Sidney on the podcast?

I thought maybe you might be like, giving him like the recipe of what to do. Oh, no, we haven't talked. Yeah. In years. Do you train people also? I do. I do personal training and posing coaching for athletes and lifestyle, too.

Posing coaching. I didn't even know that was a thing. Most people did it. I made it a job when I was 16 years old, and now there are multiple businesses where people do posing coaching for bodybuilding shows. Yeah. Do you feel like that there are people that they have the physique, but they don't know what to do?

They don't, their poses are trash. A thousand percent. Yeah. That'll make a break. You've spent hundreds and thousands of dollars, and you can't even position your body on stage. So that's what the posing coaching comes in is us to kind of fine-tune everything

and make sure you're showcasing what we need you to showcase in order to win. Okay, here. Sam has something, let's see. Okay. I don't know, this is very zoomed-out photo here of Darnow, but you could imagine. Okay, Dardale, Cross-Bink.

Okay. All right. Yeah, I see the shoulders. Yeah, so, all right, we'll see. How's the pose? See, I don't know. That's right with that left. It looks proper form, though.

Yes. Okay. So if somebody comes to you, though, like how much of a base do they have to have to be able to, like, for you to then take them to the next level? Zero. Zero. I take newbies and teach them everything you to know from bottom to the top. I will align them with the nutritionist and make sure that I get them on the road. But I literally just take anybody from scratch.

As long as you have the mental fortitude and the weller with all, I will help you get where you need to go. Yeah. Do you see people only in person or virtually too? Most people are online. I do, but I do both. Yeah, most of my people are online all the way from Germany to Argentina to Rio de Janeiro, everywhere.

Wow. What about somebody who was going to be like, hey, they called me for, I'm going to be on Survivor 51, Sydney. Could you train me for Survivor? I can definitely do that. I still incorporate a couple little things just for my endurance to make sure everything is still going where it needs to go. Yeah. I know you probably don't want to give away all of your secrets, but what is the secret to preparing for survivor physically?

Honestly, I would say high reps, because a lot of the challenges, I don't know about New Era, a lot of the challenges that I used to see were endurance-based. So even if that was just holding a weight out for a lateral race for a long period of time, which ended up being a challenge, or holding your head or balancing yoga, making your baseline of skills that you do, every week, not just a little bit of time going into the show. You need to be ingrained in them, have the balance, have the mental focus in order to stay locked in. And a lot of the times your athletes will benefit the most from that. And people who are used to being able to just be extremely focused on one thing and tone everything out because half the battle is tuning out, Jeff.

He will talk so much junk the whole time. I know one time I started laughing. I said, oh, I'm not in there. I'm not locked in. Let me lock back in. And so I will ignore him. And so anytime I'm on TV and somebody's talking at me, I ignore them and focus on the tabs of the hand.

Do you know that people practice the challenges before they go on Survivor now? Honestly, that sucks a fun out of it. It sucks a fun of it just to be able to go out there and see what you can do. But I get it as a perfectionist, a retired perfectionist. I'm trying to get better at it.

I can see doing it, but it was so much fun, just not knowing what was going to happen, and you just gab and see if you can do it on that day. Yeah. So I love it that way. Okay. Let me ask you, so our research team says that the main reason you wanted to go on Survivor was to pay off medical school debt. I had, I wanted to go to medical school. Oh, okay. So I need the money before I signed up for medical school. Yeah. And then I had the pivot. So basically what it was is I was going, I was going back to school to get my post doctorate because.

I pivoted after I'd already graduated. And then I had to do my postdoc because I didn't take all my pre-med classes. So I was getting ready to do that. And that's when I realized how broke I was. I was like, I was on basically, by the time I graduated from Penn, I was on a full ride.

I wasn't paying any money to go to school. Like my endowment was paying for me to go to school. I was getting paid to go to Penn, basically, at the end. And so when I graduated, I'm like, okay, well, I want to go to med school. I want to be an orthopedic surgeon. And I looked at my postdoc was $10,000. And I just set your crime.

I'm like, who has $10,000? because y'all just paid me to go here for the last two years. Like, I don't know where you think the money's going to come from. So that's when I had to pause. And that's when I was like, okay, let's do the competition thing and see if I can get some money then. But it's missing me doing a competition thing because I was already doing it. I was going on Survivor and I could win that money. Then I can go back to med school.

But that didn't happen. And I'm not going to be $300,000 in debt. Okay. What kind of medicine did you want to do? Orthopedic surgery. Okay. Is there any part of you that ever says, okay, I wish I would have pursued that.

No, not anymore. All my doctor friends did, once I got back and I told them and they were like, city, don't do it. They all told me, don't do it, don't do it, they kept saying it. And so what I ended up going back to, because I had enough money to pay for my second degree,

which was in PR and sports and sports and entertainment. So I went back to that and I used that more too. Yeah, it was cheaper. What do you do with PR? PR for myself, but I can go back and work for a corporation more than anything. But it's been helpful just to be able to help people in terms of spokeswomenhip, because I'm a spokeswoman for one of my supplement companies,

even in nutrition. And so I just use it for myself more than anything. But I'm able to cross back and forth and be able to be the face and be behind the scenes, putting everything together. Yeah, tell me about being the spokesperson. Is this cake factory fitness? Oh, that's my posing, my training business. Okay.

So I'm the spokesperson for eugen nutrition code C-Y-D. It's basically a supplement company. It's one of the biggest supplement companies in the world. We've had my boss. He trained Ronnie Coleman, Phil Heath, Jay Cutler, all the biggest bodybuilders in the world. Yeah. Most notable bodybuilders. He's trained.

Jay Cutler, the football player? No. Was he a football player? His bodyboater. No, another Jay Cudler. Not a J. Cudler. Yeah. Yeah.

Not the guy that was dating Kristen Cavalieri. No, not that one. Different J. Cutler. No. So what's the name of the supplement company? Evigent nutrition. E-B-O-G-E-N. Okay.

nutrition. So we have the best supplements on the market. Okay. All right. I'm going to check this out. Yes. Get you some wrong. Yeah.

I mean, I didn't want to embarrass myself, but I feel like that could you take me this lump of clay and like how far could we get? I am disciplined, okay? Yeah. I am, I could follow instructions. Okay. That's step number one. Yeah.

We can go far with that. We can go far with that. It requires you to eat right, sleep. right monitor your stress do all that stuff you know i feel like the problem for and i don't want to blame my family for everything but i feel like my family is holding me back of like i would like have like so much better like and i try to focus on what i eat but like i you know i don't want to like nobody else is eating like this stuff like nobody wants to let me sleep right right right yeah you think i will bring my scale to the table at any restaurant i go to every family of it i take

my water drug everywhere I go. Matter of fact, this baby goes with me everywhere, okay? And nobody says anything when you get used to it. Yes. How hard is it to keep that kind of lifestyle, though, around if people are not used to that? Honestly, it's easy for me because I'm such a cutthroat direct person. So most people won't kind of question it.

That's my blessing because I'm not baffir nobody. Leave me alone. Let me eat my food in peace. Let me work on my goals in peace. I'm not bothering you. I'm not asking you why you eating that chicken and that pizza. I'm minding my business as you should mind yours. And so whenever there's an instance where somebody tries to like step over a line

where they're not minding their own business, you just check it real quick. That's what I need. That's step number one of like, listen, no, but I am beyond reproach. Nobody's allowed to ask me any questions. You can ask me what I'm eating. How much? I don't care about those regular educational questions, but in terms of questioning my goal. goals, because that's ultimately what it is.

Questioning my self-respect, we're not going to do that. Because that's what it is. Sydney, do you have a favorite moment from your time on Survivor? Honestly, the helicopter ride with Aubrey Michelle was one of my favorites. We had so much fun that day. Like, that day was probably one of my highlights. That was a great day for us. So you all got on a reward and you went to somewhere?

Yeah, that was the first thing I won by myself. Well, what's the first thing? It was either, no, I won two things. Yeah, so I won my little, my little tossy thingy for the board. Yeah, so you went in the helicopter, and where did you go in the helicopter? I don't know. To some island, I just didn't know what was going on. Yeah.

With the Summ Island, then we just ate, we ate Beef Wellington, and it was an apple pie. Wow. And we were just so lethargic. It was great times. Yeah. And then were you there with, was it with Aubrey and Joe when Joe got sick? I was there for that one, too. Yeah.

Did you know that something was going? going wrong that day? People always ask me that. They were like, said, you should have told, I'm not telling no 70-plus-year-old grown man. I am a child from Georgia, okay? In the South, you don't tell rural folks what to do. You leave grown folks alone and stay in a child's place. So as I'm 22 years old, I'm staying a child's place.

I'm going to let this grown man make your decisions. But I looked and I was like, this ain't going to be good. In the back of my head, I'm like, this ain't because I've done it before. I've eaten myself into the hospital. It's not a good. And mind you, I'm 22. I did it when I was 20. So imagine if I'm 70

And I'm not used to that That is like I was able to bounce back But it just is it just I knew it was going It wasn't going to go right Did that end up Sending things in a negative direction For you where Joe

Ended up getting medically evacuated I thought about this Numerous times because I had to ruminate Because that's what perfection is due I get that I don't think There was any way Without me winning that I made

it passed forth. And I think that's because Ty was so obsessed with Aubrey and didn't really know kind of what he was doing. And I had Michelle. I knew me and Michelle were locked and I knew we would be good.

But at the same time, I'm playing middle of the road. So it's like, I'm kind of over there with them. I'm ready to kick this person to the side. But if she needs me, I'm going to kick these people to the side. Then when Joe went out, I think it just changed

the order of events. And it made me have to lean, more towards Michelle because I knew that Aubrey had Ty, because like I said, Ty was obsessed. He was not going to separate from her. At no point in time, but I think he was going to separate from her. And so I think it led me to land in the same spot I would have landed in regardless. And if you would have gotten to the end, you would have had a really good shot with that jury, right? I think I would have had they heard the story. Now, granted, a lot of them, we had a very, very bitter jury. And so we would have had to navigate that. That would have probably been the beneficial

point for my show, but I think when we got to the show, I, they always asked me, like, who I was voting for besides the ones who were, like, just mad that I beat them. I was very clear that I was going for Michelle out the gate because I played a loyal game. If you didn't cross me or tried to cross me, guess what? I'm sticking true to you and we're going to ride it out until you can't anymore. And so I think that I would have had a good shot with a numerous amount of people. with it being like me, Michelle, and Ty. I think that, because I knew Ty wasn't going to get any votes.

I knew he wasn't. I just knew that was going to happen. Yeah, because going back to that Final Four scenario, you ended up having to make fire against Aubrey. And now they do that all the time. Now it's all Final Four. After my year, I would have been fine, bro. See, that's the stuff I'll be talking about.

That's what we talk about. But why would you have been fine? Because they changed it literally the next season. Yeah. Where it was mandatory fire, because Michelle would have taken me. And I wouldn't have to do anything. Aubrey and Ty would have been making fire. I've been sitting there pretty.

Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Did you make fire ever before? No. Yeah. Listen, I wouldn't be good at either.

No, I try. I try when Elise and I were trying to get our Flint going the first couple of days. After that point, by the time you get over there, Joe's making it. He was a fire maker. So he was just making fire left and right. Left and right. You never really got a chance to make anything. And it comes time to make it. The whole thing is it's not even, it's not even the same type of material. So it's like you're learning to make fire, but it's not you're not making fire. It's kind of like, and on the concrete surface with other things that you wouldn't have made fire with anyway. So it's kind of like, and by the time, honestly, by the time I'd had my fingers sliced open. wasn't really much else I could do. Yeah. Sidney, if you don't mind, I need to thank our sponsor for this episode of the podcast. Now, I know you said that you got to get your sleep right if you want to be serious

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Go to mantha sleep.com. Get 10% off with the promo code, R-H-A-P-49. So, me, I also saw that you were inducted into the Hall of Fame for professional bodybuilding this past year. Well, it was actually the International Sports Hall of Fame. Oh. So I was inducted with it. Yeah, so it's overarching, yep. So I was inducted with one of the head ladies in the WMBA.

You had the three-time Olympic World Champion shot putter, Bill Mayer, who was one of the most elite martial artists in the world, too. Yeah. So it was a good little, a good mix of people. That was really exciting in Vegas. Yeah, that's so interesting because I feel like, you know, in the NFL or baseball, you have to be out of the game for a long time. How did you get into the Hall of Fame at such a young age? They just chose me.

Yeah. And I think it's because of my accolades, I think I started so young. That's why I'm one. I think I am the youngest to ever be inducted. But that's probably why because I started so young. So my, my history and everything has already been kind of like a spread up in a sense because I accomplished more than most people ever accomplished in the sport. And so they felt it wanted to be rewarded.

Yeah. Tell me about your YouTube channel. I'm trying to get my little YouTube going around. I do my little podcast. Let me stop calling stuff a little. Don't do that, guys. I'm starting my podcast. I got that going, but I basically go over training tips on some things.

but I also make sure to talk about bodybuilding portions of things that kind of get neglected. And a lot of times it's just certain categories that aren't bikini or men's open that get neglected. So you have more conversations about those categories, too, to make sure all the women are being uplifted. We go over menopause, health, hormones, and everything like that so that the ladies have kind of someone to listen to. And I bring doctors in, too, to kind of just have conversations about what's going on with the body. How do you like podcasting? It's actually kind of fun. I honestly have never talked this much in my entire life.

And since in 2025, it's most I've ever talked in probably the combination of my entire life. I'm not going to lie. But once you get used to it, it's kind of fun. Yeah. I was going through your YouTube channel before, and I saw that you have something that I have at my house. I noticed that you have a video about the Ninja Creamy. Yes, I love my Ninja Creamy. I love it, too.

Although I get a little lazy and I don't use it. I just thought I did for like two years straight and then all of a sudden I hit a wall and I'm like you know what let me give a little break but I still love it yeah it's basically a way to make ice cream although my my wife says it's stupid and my kids said like oh this isn't good but if you want to like turn like whatever like milk and protein powder into ice cream yep yeah see Sydney I could do this yes you can't and it's the key is the ratio it's the water ratio or the cashew milk ratio to a protein combo, shake that up, and then it gets the consistency just right, but you've got to click the right buttons too. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So what kind of inspiration do you look for to make a YouTube video? It really depends kind of what's happening at the moment.

Like the next one I have coming out, I just got back from Germany. I lived in Germany with my sister for a month, and then we took a family trip and a friend trip to Japan as well. So my next one is going to be like a blog of all things travel and how to travel. stay in shape and how to travel and do all these different things and give recommendations on what's what, but ultimately a lot of myself comes down to mental fortitude and mental health and mental illness and just kind of a lot of my stuff is going to be about boundaries and kind of teaching people, not necessarily how they should think, but things they should think about

as they're going through this life in general, not even just bodybuilding wise, but just kind of as a person who wants to accomplish anything. So can people listen to your podcast that aren't necessarily looking for bodybuilding information. Are there other benefits? That is, I'm getting more into the other benefits. Yeah. So we started talking about, I have a OBGYN coming on who's one of my clients. So it's going into just being in shape moms and talk about your hormones. Like the last podcast I did and the ones coming up, we're going to go more into wider reaching things. That way everybody can be included in the conversation of health and wellness. Okay. Let me go back to talking about Survivor and your involvement with

show now obviously they went they shot survivor 50 and sydney if the survivor producers got back to you and they said hey sidney we fumbled the bag okay we blew it but survivor 52 it's going to be 20 seasons since you played that we would love to have you would you say yes to that call or but like Like you said, if you are going to trifle with Sydney, that's it. You're not going to come back from that. Would you tell them no? At this point, yeah, I would. You'd still do it.

Okay. No, no, no. I would say no. Oh, what a tricky way to answer that question. I would say solely because so much time and so much treatment. They tried you. They tried you and they shall not do that. it's more so like

since it's not a shoe in I can't get ready to up in my I have so much going on and so many businesses being run that I have to be a part of I can't up in my life again for maybe that's the thing ultimately

yeah but let me just be devil's advocate here because you're already in such good shape that you're already like could roll out of bed and dominate on Survivor couldn't you just go I know you have everything else that's going on in your business and all these other enterprises. But physically, you could just, you know, jump in, right?

Oh, physically, I'd be fine. A thousand percent. Yeah, I'm not, I wouldn't be worried about that. And the challenges aren't, they don't seem to be as hard as the other ones. But it would be getting all of your affairs in order. Correct. Mm-hmm. Correct.

But also just, too, like, there is, you know, there's, there's, yeah. They tried you. Okay. So there's the challenge, does the traitors, is there anything else that we're considering? What about the amazing race? I would do amazing race. Yeah. It seems crazy, but I would do amazing race.

Yes. And I know we're talking about other hypothetical scenarios, but there are some other realistic things that may or may not be happening in the future that we definitely can look forward to. Correct. Yeah. That's all we're going to say on there. Is there anything that people have a misconception about you from your time on Survivor that you want to correct? Honestly, I don't know what people's thought for because I never looked. Yeah.

So, like, I just, I mean, I got great feedback in person, usually, but there's never, besides the Joe thing, there was nothing else I heard. Oh, it was one time, in one comment that I can remember somebody saying something about, not sticking up for Alicia, I was looking like, you can watch the films, babe. I was back there holding it down, but also folks are grown. Yeah. We're playing a game here. So even Jeff commented, he was like, since you really had her back?

Yeah, I had her back. We had a whole heart to heart and whole talking. That's why she said, good luck city at the end. We had conversations about how to move through life as a grown woman. And I was 22 at the time. But we had conversations, so that was the only thing. I was looking like, this right here is not a woman empowerment situation. We already, I already empowered her. I gave her my thought.

And after that point, you have to be an adult Because now I have to separate me as a person from the game Yeah. Does anybody ever hear from her? Nobody knows. No, if anything, I remember her and Darnell became like best friends after the show, so if anybody, you did. Okay. All right. Well, we'll see if we can find out what's going on with that. Yeah.

Will you watch Survivor 50 after all this? I might keep my same track and not watch. honestly I think I I think I think I'm done yeah that that that that was I don't think I need to watch it there are a couple people on there that I would love to see like I would love to see three on there Aubrey I think it was um who was my what's my one of my favorites starts with me he had the glasses be with the glasses Rick Bevin Evans okay all right yeah I like him a lot I met him in person I told him he was I was a big fan of him he was really nice I like him a lot but I'd be happy but I feel like you have a very

healthy relationship with the show and I feel like that it's probably like also like dovetails into your approach to everything of like I know what's good for me I know what's bad for me I have incredible discipline that I'm only going to put the things into me that are good and the stuff that's not good for me and the stuff that is holding me back there's no I don't have any place for that in my life and I love that I wish I had more of that you can get it It's a skill. Honestly, it's a skill. Some of it's innate, but it's a skill. Yeah.

I just honestly, when it comes down to it, there's a lot of things I don't care about and a healthy rationale of it. Like, if shit's going love, I don't care. I control what I can control. All right. Well, Sydney, I'm so happy that we got the chance to catch up.

I hope it's not going to be 10 more years. Let's hope, honestly, because I'm, honestly, I'm ready and prime for the TV. I've been staying in good shape, doing my pull-ups, getting strong for the people, and again, I'm ready to rock and roll. Yeah, I can't wait to see you on more things. Is there anything else you want to let people know to check out? Well, if you want to watch a podcast, you can watch my YouTube with Sid G-G-L-L-M. We have a lot of fitness stuff on there, and you can follow me on Instagram and vitamin C and TikTok. I do a lot

of TikToks on mental health and just me yapping. And if you want to hear me talk all day and crack jokes, that's pretty much what my TikTok is. And that's vitamin C, B-Y-T-A-M-N-U-S-C. What are you joking about on TikTok? I talk about everything I literally if a thought comes to my head I film it then that's it and it just blurts out it's basically a bunch of

a bunch of this times 10 it can be about any topic like I don't even pitch it a whole look to bodygo to get anything yeah can I bring up a TikTok that this was one that the team pulled from your TikTok and something

that you just discovered this year okay I'm gonna I'm gonna play this for everybody okay here's you in the car and you're talking about your favorite thing about being retired. That's my favorite part about retirement from Bodybuilding? Brunch.

Brunch, y'all. I went to my first brunch ever in April. And I mean, ever I mean in my 32 years of living at that time. Now I went to brunch again, my first time ever in Georgia that was in June. And we get to now, my friends are like, oh, see, you want to go off a brunch? Oh, since you want to go out this little 12 o'clock spot, I'm like, you know what? Sign me up. I'ma go. I'm going to enjoy it.

Now, I won't say it definitely is a difference in terms of trying to get your other meals in once you do a cheap meal earlier in the day. So that's why I do love. I prefer to go at nighttime, like, have it be my last meal. But having it during the middle of the day, it's kind of cutey, too, just to switch it up. What did you get at brunch? I had three separate sets of pancakes. It was a cinnamon roll one, a red velvet one, an Oreo one. And I had a chicken biscuit with eggs, the chicken and egg, sausage biscuits. And then I had some home fries too.

It's a whole assortment. It was delicious. 10. All right. This was a cheap meal. Yes, it was cheap. Yeah. Okay.

Incredible. All right. Anything else that's great about retirement? Life. Giving more time to spend with my friends, my family, and just really just traveling and getting to soak up all of everything life has to offer and not having to be, I will always be regimented, but I can now schedule in some spontaneity. Okay.

All right. Well, Sidney, thank you for making time to catch up on all of this. Appreciate everybody who tuned in for this one. I had a great time talking to you, Sydney, and hope to get the chance to chat more in the future. Definitely. Okay. Thank you.

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