RHAP: We Know Survivor - Dwight Moore on Survivor B&B: S47 Ep 11

Episode Date: December 1, 2024

Mike and Liana are joined by Dwight Moore for episode 11.

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My name is Mike Bloom. I am joined by someone who knows how to sort her balls properly. Liana Boris. Liana, how are you? Thank you. Thank you. I'm doing well. Yes, we're we're busy. We're sorting balls balls by color no shape or size this time very interesting uh but no look we had an episode of survivor kyle the challenge beast extraordinaire finally goes home looked like our guest was cheering for that outcome let's find out if he was no that's not what i was cheering for at all i was cheering for it all. I was cheering for Survivor. No. Yeah, listen, Dwight Moore, who's our guest, he's just coming in with that Kyle, you know,

post-boot mindset, right? Of like, bring it in, everybody. Isn't Survivor great? You know, it's the agony of defeat, but it's more about the thrill of everyone else's victory. I might, did I cheer? I might just be behind you guys for a second or two. That's hilarious. That's the timing was on y'all's end.

I was cheering when you said survivor. What do you mean? I was cheering for when he went home. No, no. Kyle, no. This is all looking wrong. That's okay. You and Mike have had a comment.

Hi, everyone, as well. Oh, my God. That was a great way to make his reintroduction in the form of joy well i don't know uh you know i ended up posting the kyle boot uh reaction interaction with everybody and we'll see they got a fair mix of uh those on the the dwight accidental side of pigs of being like that boot of this and some people being like as gabe said I think sincerely on the jury, this is a hero. Yeah, a hero.

Okay. I love that. It was funny, like, the online reaction people were doing, like, how dare he go out, like, that man, like, why are people upset people are hugging? Like, he's just a good sport about losing. Like, some people were upset about that, which is crazy to me. But whatever. We'll get to that. We'll talk about that which is crazy to me but whatever we'll get to that we'll talk about that later

well i do wonder if part of it was you know the culture that's set of that season right so the season sets the norm of how they are going to choose to behave and perhaps salty exit seems to be part of the criteria salty exits so if anybody deviates from that then they're the weird one though kyle's trying to do you know good game we're all playing we're on the same team kind of energy yeah it's really interesting because i saw a response to again this video that i posted that i think is what i sort of vibe with the most which is the idea that for me the reaction doesn't matter it's more so the fact that it's it's genuine i think where a lot

of people maybe had some detractions from seasons in the new era that were prior to this as to like you know that everyone in a row pretty much did the sort of good game i'll see you on the jury etc etc mindset with maybe a couple of exceptions of like pulling out a character impression here or there and so i think it's not only the consistency but maybe this idea that people feel like when you're doing that it isn't necessarily what you're feeling in that moment it's kind of putting on that brave face that said i do believe kyle's authenticity in that moment like i do believe that despite the fact that this man's dreams of a million dollars that could change his family's lives was crushed he just doesn't have it in him to necessarily disparage or ignore anybody on the way out he

still wants to not only bring them in but then also kind of inspire them with the words of everyone who near unanimously voted him out it it is it kyle is authentically himself that's the energy that i get from kyle like he will just i know he said look i've got some capacity to lie and i'm sure he does but especially in this moment i do believe that it was all very genuine and that he means what he says when he goes around and makes everybody including including Jeff probes, give him a hug. Yeah. Dwight, give us your thoughts about season 47 so far,

because we're nearing the end game. We were talking about this before we came on here that actually next week, due to this weird two, two hour finale instance is the last quote unquote, regular episode of the season. So we're really barreling towards the end here. What have been your thoughts on Survivor 47 through 11 weeks? I've really been enjoying the season so far.

I like everyone's story so far, because of their position in the game. Everyone's playing super hard. I really enjoy that. I'm curious to see how this endgame is going to play out, especially with the current state of advantages that we have Sue and Rachel with idols. Rachel has the block vote as well.

So I'm not sure how it's going to play out, especially with this underdog alliance that has the strict majority and all the advantages and is seemingly unstoppable. But yes, the underdogs. I'm curious to see how that plays out, how they'll turn on each other, because that's going to have to happen at some point. If it's going to be any hurt feelings for the people who are left out of the actual final three, that consists of even all the underdogs. Some, you know, one of the I guess only Sam or Genevieve is left outside.

One of them sneaks to the end or gets dragged along as a potential goat, because while they say they have all the power at this point, no one's including them in play. And then someone can make the argument like,'s not how you start it's how you finish and the end game for sam and jenny so far has been everyone else is controlling their game telling them to vote a certain way and it's hard to really say you made a move at the end when no one's including you and no one wants to do anything because you made your threat level so big earlier on in the game and in sam's case i don, he didn't really make his target big at the merge. It was pre-merge and his target blasted over and then he's been shut out post-merge

in terms of like strategic impact. So I'm curious to see how this really plays out. But I have been enjoying the season a lot. I'm just, I'm intrigued on how this end game is going to play out for all the players. Well, I think that that's a great point is this idea of this shifting biggest threat,

right? Because that's what we've seen all of the votes really play off of, of who's the biggest threat. It was Sierra because of Sierra and Sam, then it's Saul because you know, Saul is a big threat that, and you just sort of move down the line and that those threats can change. I mean, Genevieve, at least based on what we saw, was not considered this big threat until all of a sudden she orchestrates the Saul vote. And now she's up at the top of the target list. But that could continue to shift and continue to change. Right. Maybe one of these underdogs all of a sudden starts to get the perception of, well, of the underdogs. They're the biggest threat of the underdogs. So now they need to go.

And potentially we do have a situation where, you know, Sam or Genevieve or someone else is able to sort of continue to go along just because this constant shifting of threats, because there's an argument where Sam is no longer a threat anymore because of Dwight, what you're saying, he has no agency, doesn't want anything. You know, you can make an argument that he's no longer a threat anymore. So that's why it makes it so interesting and so fluid, because it does feel like it's constantly shifting. Yeah, because that is sort of the weird folly and one of the many paradoxes that exist in Survivor. Why are you a threat? Because we say you are.

Like sometimes there isn't necessarily a quantification as to the qualification as to why you're considered a threat. Sometimes in Sam's case, it was like, well, you came in as the power player of data. And now you have, even though we voted out your ally, they're on the jury now. So maybe they'll vote for you there. There's all these complexities contained there. And which is like why I love again, the final tribal council, the jury format so much. I mean, it's tough.

I see everything you're saying liana it's a smidge of wishful thinking you know it does make me a little nervous just because i mean five versus two is so easy you know i think the way that things could get blown apart on paper would be if one of them wins immunity and the other one fakes an idol because it really does seem like with sue and rachel both having idols they're not hiding another one in the game right now and that's the other thing as well to the point that dwight made is that we have now kind of come upon a situation where i think even in that case let's say like okay we have this alliance of five they

split their votes three two between sam and genevieve if I'm Sam and Genevieve I'm like great I just need to flip one person over and then we'll make it our own 3-2-2 sort of like a three heroes versus villains style until Rachel anonymously pulls out the block of vote and decides like nope I'm just gonna make sure that this is the thing to do

and you know really seal someone's fate and listen this episode I would probably call the snooziest of the season so far and what has been a very solid season uh there was i think some stuff watching back especially the second time that i did relish a bit more in the first half hour things like talk we'll talk about this more like genevieve's really interesting reaction to realizing her feelings are hurt from hurting other people's feelings in a manner of speaking and how instead of using that to be like, no, I'm not going to do it anymore. More so being like, well, I'm just not going to make personal connections.

So then I won't feel as bad in slitting people's throats. the three biggest threats as to how they're they're handling this position that they're in like i i do not throw the result or really anything to do with this episode at the feet of the players or production like this is just how survivor is sometimes i would say 80 of the time in a game like survivor the optimal move for most of the people in the game is to make probably the most boring move right is to like stay the course i mean we of the people in the game is to make probably the most boring move right is to like stay the course i mean we can certainly talk about the merits the numbers if you will about genevieve versus kyle i still think it was the right move at the end of the day and so it's one of those things where when you see him lose immunity then you're like all right the die is pretty damn cat here and so it was absolutely no surprise at all but

you know even if this does move forward as kind of just a clean sweep of these threats then the next matter is going to become like who's the three and the five if there is one and how's that going to manage and whatever this end game looks like and something i want to touch on um because leon said earlier like with the whole thing of who's going to be the biggest threat of these underdogs when it happens i in all season i've been super impressed with this player caroline has impressed me so much throughout the season with her insights about the game what she's doing and everything especially this episode too she's like as soon as rachel reveals that block about caroline's first thing is great that's going to make her

a big threat which is going to be a shield for. I can maybe take her out and take credit for that and, you know, propel myself to the win at the end. Throughout the season, Caroline has had amazing street insights, has had a lot of good connections that allowed her to stay under the radar, despite having a lot of, you know, strategic prowess. She's had her name written down once alongside Rachel, I believe. There's only two left without any votes cast for them. So I'm curious to see how it plays out between them. Of course, Rachel has the idol and the block-a-boat, so just looking at it from their perspective, Rachel probably has

the hand up in whenever they have to go head-to-head, if they ever do. But I can see Caroline possibly taking that shot, and if Rachel realizes that she can always flip it back against Caroline with the plethora of advantages that she has at her disposal. So I'm curious to see how that does play out but like caroline's been really impressing me with her gameplay so far just by being kind of more quiet uh in terms of like the edit and

showing it like she's been honestly my like i i've liked her the most as a player this so far i was nervous for her and the relationship with sue because we have seen a sue scorn and sue does not respond well to people going against her wishes but caroline i think really handled it so well in appealing to sue at the very beginning of the episode and essentially laying out the logic look you know here's here's i'm thinking here's what i'm feeling like seems to listen to Sue. So I thought that that was such a natural, like, really talented recovery.

And because there was this shot of Sue, or Caroline hugging Sue, and Sue was just there just like. Yeah, she like was putting her arm around her and putting her head on her shoulder. And she's like, I'm just not that into you. But yeah, I mean. I'm not having it, yeah.

Yeah, she benefited from a couple things a uh i think the fact that her relationship with sue definitely very different than her relationship with kyle now look due to the holiday i have yet to have the chance to talk with kyle suffice it to say i'm going to try to get some information from the kyle perspective as to like how one-sided this was what was the the dynamic like. But I think what also helps is that Caroline made a move against Gabe, but not necessarily Sue. You know, this is not, if Caroline wrote Sue's name down, I agree, Liana. I think she would have like thrown her backpack in the fire, a la Teenie.

Like she would be absolutely dead to her. At the same time, I think Caroline did a really great job of vocalizing her logic behind it which is this idea of like we were being perceived and i was perceiving that gabe was making all the decisions for us and i don't know about you i did not necessarily come out here to have someone dictate my game for me i think that speaks really nicely to sue's pov as well about the fact that one of the reasons why she has this grudge for kyle is she said remember like i grew up in this industry where all these guys were keeping me down and telling me what to do like caroline's kind of able to use that logic in a way uh and to your point dwight as well about

the whole rachel thing yeah it's really interesting and i think if it does turn out that these underdogs are just going to kind of run it down this is the most captivating part to me about the end game especially now that uh a little tidbit about andy and sue being perceived as goats maybe doesn't necessarily bode terribly well for andy's physics from the ashes edit it's this idea of if and when rachel and caroline turn on each other when does it happen how does it happen and ultimately who wins because i do not see an instance outside of like you know right one of them being sent to the fire making and winning at final four that they would sit at the end together and i think the two of them occupy such a similar space in terms of story and in terms of edit that it'll be interesting to see

who takes their place and how does that become the major narrative moving forward. I think you also have to look at teeny too. Is this, I mean, Mike, you mentioned this last week, but teeny just being such a big social threat with people on the jury and even looking at some of the word association with teeny, I mean, everybody is obsessed with teeny and that has to be running through their minds as well so i think we're not only looking at a rachel v caroline face off i think that you have to throw teeny in there as the other threat because you know okay let's assume sue and andy are the goats well then that leaves three you know other players who are potentially

vying for for that winner spot assuming that you know everything the underdogs all kind of stay together so i would throw teeny in there as well as as a potential threat to win i mean from their perspective right that they need to take out as of the jury makeup right now do y'all think it would vote more based on like the connection they have like personal social or would be more like a strategic who made the best moves i care about nothing else kind of jury because i can't really tell right now the stories would actually vote how they would swing the community it's who contributed the most to the community community i i think that they seem like a jury that could be swayed like all of 42 like they could go in with a certain perception and then if someone clearly articulates their

gameplay i think that they would be willing to be swayed over potentially um but it's so so tough to tell right well yeah no idea especially if the next two boots are sam and jenny because again i think how these underdogs were able to solidify themselves as saying no matter what these are the three big threats that are left and as rachel kind of verbalizes if it indeed is true that like then the top five make it and it's the game kind of opens up in terms of winner odds then yeah i agree with liana i think a lot more could get swayed maybe not even a final tribal council but like the stuff you do at five and four that's when you kind of brand yourself and make your mark and as much as andy

had talks about in this episode like maybe i don't want to get rid of kyle and i'm going to try to make my mark here it seems like the time to do it would be to kind of clear those larger threats however they may be out of the way and then you emerge as the the big threat right there at the end now look did it exactly work out for your old pal jesse dwight when that ended up happening with him but i do think it'd be an interesting thing to do uh once they sort of clear out assumingly the next two people yeah um it's similar to like jesse bring up there um i was thinking about rachel's blockable advantage or how she could use that because there's a way the word we talked about right at seven you could use it to block one of sam or genevieve block a shot in the dark plane also block the potential flip of someone

to their side because then they can't do anything even if you have someone flip you have four against two on both you block one guaranteed you know who the traitor is take out one sam or genevieve cool no problem but also you could save it for six and then use that block a vote um in a way to just pull three people on your side blind blindside anyone else you want, because then you just take your half of the last five, grab two people with yourself, that's three, only five votes if you use someone to block a vote. You maybe keep one of the big threats in, whatever.

Like, I'd say, like Genevieve did a big move, Sam kind of, I'd say like, you leave Sam, possibly, and then just blindside one of your own members with six, use a block a vote, and then, what, you have three people there. Rachel has her idol that no one knows about, so then you one of your own members with six, you just block a boot, and then, what, you have three there. Rachel has her idol that no one knows about, so you can save yourself at five after making

a big move. Similar to Jessie, you're probably at final four as the biggest threat to win. Just win a challenge or firemaking, and you probably win at the end there. So I'm curious to see which move she does, because I think the sixth one is a lot more offensive, put yourself out there to win. Seven is more defensive in a way, like, cool, just keep the five together. But i think if i'm rachel there i want to save it for six and

stand out against the rest of the five right then and there maybe you bring like people bring along to your side maybe you bring the sue and andy there's people seen as the ghost to your big move they might want to go for it and boost their resume not knowing you have an idol to save yourself at five because they might think okay we'll do this with rachel take rachel out afterwards and claim it for ourselves so that'd be rachel's path to the end in my with that uh block of vote but that's that's the riskier play i'm curious which one she does the seven or six because you can only use it at those two tribals well i think you have you you have to start thinking if you're one of those underdog players you're the likelihood of you sitting next to the two other perceived goats being andy and sue the likelihood of you sitting next to the two other perceived

goats being andy and sue the likelihood of that happening is so low and even then you're making an assumption that they're perceived as goats but you never know so you do have to start thinking about all right i need the the time for being the low poppy now has passed right like we're not going to do the genevieve we're not going to do too early right we're going to wait and we need to do it at exactly the right time in order to make that impact, show that you are a power player and show that you have something that you can justify at the end. So the question is, is where does that happen? How does that happen? And if you're someone like Caroline and you have no advantages, right, you now have to start thinking about,

okay, this is all now based on my social relationships and how and who am I going to use in order to make that move or, you know, a series of at least small moves to justify something, right? You can't just the whole time be the low poppy. I gotta say, I love these advantages being anonymous, you know, because we, oh, wow. Really? Yeah. I i mean that's the thing is they really i love how they're forcing it on them as well of like since everyone is telling everyone else that they have idols now you can't i mean i guess you could saul does do it with rachel but like at least initially you can't do it and it's interesting as well in that rachel like pretty much gives up the anonymity immediately and again that's always going to come when you do a journey

like there's just so many eyes on you that's just going to be like, yep, I actually got this thing. But it would have been really interesting if she was able to pull a Marianne at the final tribal council and be like, oh, and hey, I'll remember that time, Sam, you couldn't vote.

That was me. I did this thing. Because again, that would be such like a big card to play. But now something that someone else can play is, yeah, well then Rachel told us that we were able to play around that and use that to the play is yeah well then rachel told us so we were able to plan around that and use that to the alliance's betterment so it wasn't necessarily something to push her individual game forward to dwight's point yeah exactly yeah i mean even like

if rachel goes back and like keeps with the story of like i got nothing and then what her vote still appears at tribal she's kind of cooked. So like at some point, I have to tell your alliance, like, yeah, I kind of got something because there's a world where all the eight votes can be able to be like, yeah,

Rachel, about that vote, you lost that tribal. Explain that. So I do like, if you did tell a few people in this regard, given her lie, you know,

she did a different lie. Maybe you get away with it, but the lie she told is easily verifiable later down the line. Within the right setup. Just going on a journey in general is just such a catch-22 situation. Like, I don't even, at this point, I don't even know what the quote-unquote right move is to do anymore. Like, I don't know. Do whatever you feel is right.

Like, no one's going to, people aren't going to believe you. There's no right answer. Yeah. like no one's good people aren't gonna believe you there's no right answer yeah i mean i kind of feel like it's actually probably the the way rachel went about it is probably the occam's razor simplest way to do it which is to the overall group lie that you lost your vote and then go to your like specific closest allies and tell them hey i found something like i think that is the happy medium of it's not exactly vast public information and you sort of broker that bond that exclusivity by telling people hey i really value

us that's why i'm telling you that i actually have this thing uh because i mean it's tough because you have someone like sam and we'll get into this how lovingly ridiculous that journey was that he's like this sounds too stupid for it to be real when like actually about 87 of that was real they actually did have to push weights into the ocean like if people are gonna doubt it regardless you might have an idea in your head of like well then i'll just tell them the truth so i come across as honest but we've seen time and time again now through seven seasons just how more often than not enjoy, you can speak to this firsthand that it just puts a target on your back, no matter what.

And the assumption that you have something is, is almost always there unless you have a paper or like they show you footage from video village to the rest of the tribe of, Hey, watch them fail this challenge and not get a vote. Even when you do. So for first experience, I went on the journey on day two of my season and I lost my vote. Came back with a paper that said I lost my vote. Cody didn't believe me for several days afterwards, still thought I had something.

So like I said, the fact of you going on the journey alone is enough to talk about. Even if you have tangible proof that you failed on the journey. But like the other folks on day two noel owen james's journey noel got the advantage and they kept it amongst themselves to everyone else in the game like it didn't leak to people until we hit the merge so like on their charge they did a good job and that's why we hit the merge i was like i want to work with these two people because they kept my ally secret safe um even though there was like some heat on don't know well for a little bit. She played off on Bessie. Everyone's kind of believed her that she had nothing.

That was nice. How the third journey really played out. Well, everyone knew that we lost their votes. People knew Gio had it when he went home. Jesse and Janine publicly said, I lost my vote. So we figured out what happened. Like different seasons have different journeys.

Like ours had actual tangible proof of someone failing, which I think they learned that that kind of removes the drama from it when people can show you hey i failed the journey here's a piece of paper that proves it to me uh so they've learned where it has to just really be a social game um but it's kind of funny like sam saying yeah this is bs i'm just like he that was literally true that was super funny to me i cracked him seeing that and that's very that's very exciting for 49 because now someone's going to be like, oh my God, there was this giant sled that I had to put a bunch of presents on

for the early Christmas drive amongst all the Fijian locals. They're like, well, they did do that one saw trap where they pushed weights into the water. So like, I can't exactly completely discount it. Really just opened the limits of imagination as to what people can lie about or believe exactly also like one thing i'll is rachel volunteering no go ahead do i i'm so much you go ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead oh okay so the thing about the weights is why would she make that like who comes up with this i mean

obviously the survivor challenge team comes up with this stuff but like if i were to go out there and make up a challenge i'm not making up i was on a barge and i had to throw time to weights into the ocean that pulled a table if i didn't do it on time like no that's so creative i would just assume it's like that's too weird to just make up that's valid that feels like yeah i think future players come up with something super outlandish in advance and just tell the story when you go to journey like come up with the most outlandish bs possible if people just believe it because that this point, they're going for broke on these journeys. Yeah. No, it feels like

such a day two journey idea, right? Of like, I'm not malnourished, I'm not exhausted, I've still got caloric energy to expend. Let me come through with this big fish story. As opposed to, yeah, day 18, day 19, like, you can't exactly spin together

much of a yarn at that point. You can barely get the two strands of yarn together in the first place. I adore this so much. This was so sinister. Like, just the fact of watching the podium get dragged off like we're in some low-budget community theater production and, like, the stage crew is off stage with a fishing line trying to pull this off to make it feel like paranormal activity was so so much fun

uh and listen we don't know if rachel was able to like snatch it in the nick of time but no matter what like the pure existential threat of at any time this can get dragged away from you and sink to the bottom of the ocean never to be seen again like i think what you do is maybe do a bit of like the joker and the dark knight rises i think next time do a little uh mission impossible trail of gunpowder leading up to the advantage and like if you don't get there in time it just bursts into flames you basically like lowered into a fire and if you don't complete it just burns yes yes production please do that um but no like that was i like the puzzle that was a fun one um like i like someone on reddit made a replica of it so that was what i think that was really how much time did she have did they stay on the show i didn't catch that they just say until it sinks

yeah whatever the equivalent of four weights worth of rope was okay scientifically accurate yeah that makes sense um but yeah no that was that was i love that also going back to what i was saying before about the uh rachel choosing to go because it was like sam jen and even rachel was it that wanted to go on it if i recall and rachel putting herself forwards for that once again no one else really stepped up to do that of this underdogs alliance rachel stepped to do it even though it could put a target on her back and succeeding getting that advantage too which is something i hope she really talks about later on if she has the opportunity to say like what sets me apart from this rest of the five she can say no one else

stepped up to do this i did when we had this alliance so that's it that's another thing you know take a set up or another thing caroline probably needs to take reason to take care of rachel before it gets too late of like caroline seeing all this and other people might be seeing it too but they gave caroline the credit for noticing and saying like this is going to be a threat this is a shield for me um but i hope she doesn't keep her too long because once again caroline did say shield that implies i want to keep her for a bit longer but fire um but it was from rachel a defensive play almost more than anything at least that that's how it was sold to us that it was more, I just want to prevent these other people from getting it. It's not even necessarily about me getting it.

But she did step up and sort of take that risk. And so it's gonna be interesting, because you really are walking that fine line, don't be too tall, but you also need enough to be able to argue your point. So maybe Rachel is really like, hit it exactly correct. You know, and we'll be able to argue for that if she can make it to the end. I think that would be a good thing for her resume. Right. I think it's a she's able to say at least at this point, oh, I went on a journey, but it was to help our alliance. Oh, I got this advantage, but I told you all about it. So I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm growing, but there's not so much miracle grow in there that you really need to cut me off right now at this moment i mean it was really interesting also that i believe she's in

she's in two final three alliances it seems within this five or or at least these scenes of i feel good about this group it was her teeny andy and then her caroline sue which would also be really interesting if the underdogs were to make it to the final five which would be that she would essentially be like the kathy vaverick o'brien here of picking which one to go with now this makes it a little more complicated because of final four fire making like you don't necessarily need to pick which pair to go with but i would be intrigued to see where she goes there because the caroline sue pairing is probably the closest one in the game but you know how much are you betting on yourself to like if you vote off teeny at five then andy's

probably going to take you to the end and is there a chance you're going to beat caroline and soon a final immunity challenge like there's a lot we're going to beat caroline and soon a final immunity challenge like there's a lot of interesting decisions to weigh in at that particular time end game is so tough it's so tough there's so many decisions and so tough because you're also gauging all of these external factors like we can talk about andy with his math we're trying to decide with the probability of you know someone winning. So then if you're thinking about the long game, you're trying to decide, okay, who can I be? Right. Or you're trying to make all of these sort of like small nuanced decisions. But I, I mean, Andy was making just a fit, like Kyle had

a 50, 50 shot of winning. And I think that that is a false assumption because Kyle had one more child, like he'd won more than he had participated in. So I think he had a a false assumption because Kyle had won more child. Like he'd won more than he had participated in. So I think he had a higher shot. I mean, I understand Andy's argument that his, you know, quote unquote,

Kyle's run is overrated. But I do think that he a little bit undersold that as well, though. I do think that, I mean, look, Kyle's not going to win out, but.

Yeah. I also like Kyle did get third and got the necklace on one challenge to be fair to be fair so it's not like he's also invincible so i kind of like kind of reduce the odds a bit too in that regard but like i said the more you vote people out the less compares kyle has so it kind of gets more odds he wins as people go on as well so i don't think like there's a lot of the 50-yard figure argument ignore that i'll just put it in front of the edit like that was not real math um but like i do like his approach kind of like explain to people why he also technically on his side i love it um so maybe the math wasn't exactly fully sound but it was a good argument tool although caroline shut that down instantly instead like

um but it was funny to watch um yeah i it's I really go back and forth on this. And maybe it's just because, like, I'm talking with two people that are much more academically minded than myself. It just, it always feels tough to me to, like, assign numbers when it comes to survivor strategy outside of, like, they have six,

we have four, et cetera, et cetera. If anything has been made clear with, like, race and probabilistic structures like people don't necessarily understand chances and probabilities like if there's a 75 chance of something that's happening yes that is more likely to happen than not but still one out of four times that thing is going to happen and so so I think what occurs, unfortunately, is that when Andy throws out this 6.25%, whatever that may be,

I think for them, it's just like, yeah, your logic may be there, but Survivor is much more a feelings game than a facts game in many ways. And so I think from Caroline's perspective, she's like, it feels a lot more than 6.25% just because he seems to do well at almost everything

that ends up getting thrown our way so yes you could even be generous by giving him a coin flip odds of winning every single challenge from here on out but that doesn't dispute the fact of like what i feel about his chances moving forward and the fact that another chance for him to stay in the game who knows if they maybe they throw another idol out there and kyle ends up finding him maybe he's able to worm his way in because he's just so so darn genial with people to maybe keep them like they did with the gay vote uh there's or with the uh with the the sol vote there there's a lot of stuff that could be at play for me outside of like oh he has a chance of taking the the necklace home And while I think, to your point, Dwight, it's very fun to have someone come in with those statistics,

and statistics can sometimes be something to help cement an argument. It just sometimes is not necessarily the game to do that when people can just respond with, yeah, but my gut is telling me this thing, and that's's gonna overwhelm the brain at the end of the day yeah survivor is a game about your gut feeling like that's all we hear right like i gotta trust my god i gotta go with my god i gotta you know so look they just gotta they gotta vote the way that they think is the right way so don't matter the math yeah Yeah, exactly. So let's start getting into our talks on Kyle here, because definitely one of the more unique contestants we've had this season, if in the new era in general, just considering how down to the look,

he seems like a guy that was plucked out of the teens, right? Between his blue collar lifestyle, between the fact that he had a tough time reconciling his emotions with playing the game despite the fact that he said towards the end that he had the capacity to do so between like as andy i suppose calls him him being one-dimensional and only really relying on challenges and not much else to get further so liana how much of a pulse did you have on this in the preseason when it came to Mr. Ostwald? Yeah, this has been a brutal season for my predictions, but whatever.

We're going to stick with it. So I had Kyle pre-jury. I said, oh, I know. I said that Kyle's affable personality allows him to easily get along with almost all the members of his tribe but unfortunately for kyle his good old boy schtick doesn't vibe with gabe's ruthless gameplay you were so close i know and and gabe identified kyle as a social threat who could win over the other members of tuku additionally kyle goes on a journey in the first few days of the season drawing extra ire from gabe and then kyle blesses us with several kyle isms which particularly amuse jeff i think those are supposed to be like

blue collar phrases i felt like kyle was gonna be like throwing out like oh you're expecting like the big brother like oh i'm more sticky than a badger and molasses exactly yeah it's like he's from michigan leon that's my that's the energy i got from kyle okay they can have isms in michigan mike all right um i said that his ally was tk and his enemy was of course gabe yeah i mean it's interesting you were sort of describing ally right yeah exactly and you were sort of describing the way that he talked like gabe sort of approached kyle initially before he hired him to be his limo driver so yeah exactly well and i didn't think obviously didn't think kyle's gonna last that long so i was like yeah that's the early dynamic that totally

fits so i had kyle making the jury a bit of loftier expectations for him. I said that Kyle's backstory is one of the first personal focuses of the season as he wakes up on day two with some struggles missing home, but he gets to watch the Fijian sunrise and that brightens his mood. Despite his early emotional struggles, Kyle's hard work ethic and leadership in building the shelter easily brings him into the majority on toku where he's happy to just sit as a number uh he's just kyle i think unfortunately due to toku's winning streak and his lack of involvement in the strategy he becomes one of the most purple players to make the post merge i tried the nickname kyle parentheses quiet kyle and it goes about as well as expected uh kyle is devastated

when he finds out he lost his closest ally tk in the split tribal council though he says he's on the revenge path it's like asking a dog to fly he can try all he wants that's just not who he is after winning a crucial immunity challenge to save his execution, he's dispatched the minute he loses in one of the most straightforward votes of the season. His ally was TK and his enemy, I wrote, no possible way he makes any. Ah, no enemies for Kyle. Of course not. No.

Sorry, you mean Quile. Oh, Quile. Oh, good old quile quile sounds like the name of a figure in Westeros like the master of coid brigand maester quile oh my gosh

brutal all right Dwight it's on you it's gonna be a tough pick eggs but uh who do you think was more accurate on Kyle here you know it's very close it's a tight call here but I just might have to give this to Mike here uh a bit more accurate in um every single aspect of his write-up um but you know maybe finally anna we can still be friends i'll allow it yay i'm so intrigued with obviously 50 incredibly on the horizon i mean uh we're entering december it's probably going to be like six months away until we really start getting that cast together if not starting to film again kyle

is such an enigma especially in the new era where it feels like the show is more cutthroat than ever more meta than ever i wonder how much he might have a bearing on 50 casting like i know jeff infamously said in an interview i think back in the beginning to an outlet like oh we're considering a player for 50 that's what a lot of people to speculate like okay could it be andy could it be teeny could it be sue etc etc leona what do you think the chances are of kyle possibly getting a look here concerning not only again how different he is and a bit of a throwback to old school survivor but especially the ovation he he is and a bit of a throwback to old school survivor but especially the ovation he received on and a bit off island in getting the boot

well i think for me the reason to go for kyle would be because his energy just feels so different and if you're only going to cast new era people i mean kyle who else because even people who are maybe in like a similar vein still don't have sort of this like wholesomeness like Kyle just feels so wholesome that being said to me personally it's a bit boring so I don't know I um i think that there's definitely a possibility that it happens but i i don't think that he would necessarily be the top of my list coming out of this season what about you dwight uh kind of similar brain to liana like i could see them doing it because also they gave him that backstory today about um he has the capacity to lie to see if it's everything really show that so it could be for

a second chance of it's really good challenge beast we already seen that but give him the opportunity or like give him a second chance to kind of do that deception line leaning into that a bit more up see if he actually is capable of doing that or not but that might be more of a like a second chance kind of season not i think 50 is being built up as like celebration of the whatever like you know it's celebration whatever i don't think it's so much of a second chance kind of season not i think 50 is being built up as like celebration of the whatever like you know it's celebration whatever i don't think it's so much of a second chance thing if it is i think that definitely is the argument to be made to put him on season but if it's not second chance more so just like a pseudo all-stars kind of season not so much a second chance maybe but like once a second chance folks on there it might be very tough

to fit him onto that cast um but yeah the second second chance chances kind of thing for sure i'd love that yeah i'd be really interesting to see if he is considered in the same boat as jonathan which is wild because like kyle looks like steve rogers before the super soldier serum and then after is jonathan from a physicality perspective but like it does feel like they kind of fit the same wheelhouse of like both you wheelhouse of like both, you know, one of the best challenge performers in their season,

maybe not the biggest strategists, you know, big providers at camp. And yes, there are nuances contained there in, but you know, as much as I thought Jonathan occupied his own space from 42 through 47, there might be a bit of a challenge from,

again, more of an obtuse casting perspective in what kyle brings though i do agree with you leona i think that maybe kyle's like more inward facing i wouldn't even say lower energy just you know a little bit more like particularly placed than the out and loud presences that exist even with somebody like jonathan would probably be one of the bigger things to take away from his chances of playing again especially in something like 50 where Jeff talked about it they want joy they want the verve they want all the energy that they can bring

and not to say that Kyle couldn't it's just that his his is more of like an NPR type of energy versus like the Z morning zoo energy that some of these other new era contestants provide. But then I think that that could be an argument, you know, to bring him back that you need that kind of balance. And if he does have sort of a desire to come back and change up his gameplay style, then I think that that could be another reason why I think what I wouldn't want to happen is like, we just bring Kyle back because Kyle's got like chill energy and that's it. And then Kyle comes back and Kyle Kyle's again. And then that's about it.

Like I would want Kyle. I want to hear from Kyle. Like, okay, this is what I'm going to do differently this time. Not necessarily that you have an ax to grind or that you have something to prove, but just here's how I'm going to change up how I would play so that we at least have a little bit of a fresh take, keep the same energy, you know, what was it? Yeah.

Drop the boring, keep the energy, you know what was it uh yeah drop the boring keep the energy you know just change it like a little bit right yeah i i'm i'm very intrigued because again it's something that we are on the precipice for and again as much as to your point leona his own energy as he left was completely different from anyone this season let alone anyone from the new era in quite some time like you know we have people sitting on the jury being like wow what a guy so especially if they do a new era heroes versus villains i would i might go so far as to say say like Kyle would be one of the chalk picks as like a new era hero.

Oh yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. That would be so fun. I don't know who they would pick. Right.

Especially with the whole, Oh, we're not really doing villains anymore. So they cast them and then they say, yeah, like, Oh, you're the villains now.

We determined it. Decided. Yeah, that'd be great. Okay. So I think let's move into our activity for today. Rachel unscrambled some balls. So let's see if the two of you can unscramble some words we are going to be playing anagrams today so i have taken the full names of the survivor contestants from this season

and rearrange them all up so i will read and i've also used the full name by the way so like we have a lot of tks and souls and roams etc so i have taken their full name so like tk is taran by the way okay so i would recommend for both of you to pull up a list that can be very helpful the wikipedia page for example to see their full name because i did not remember anybody's last name and i did this game so okay i would say because i was actually going to bring something up here because obviously we are we are experiencing you, some some small technical difficulties here. Dwight is away from home, maybe to even the playing field. I don't look at the list because I imagine this is going to be timing based and buzzing in.

And I handicap myself by not being able to have the names in front of me. You can do that. The other option is that, because normally it's a free-for-all, right? You just sort of buzz in. The other thing we could do is each person gets essentially a 15-second head start. So I would throw it to Mike.

You have 15 seconds. If you don't get in, you know, 15 seconds, then Dwight can pop in. But then the weight falls into the ocean and it gets dragged away from me. And it gets dragged away. Exactly. Well, that's what happened to what happened there was a time thing on it so yeah mike you can't look at the list and you have a delay okay i'm good with that listen this is uh you know weight training for me so that uh it feels like nothing but a breeze once i inevitably climb the mount everest that is

like the grandmaster game you have on my path. Yes, exactly. Okay. Perfect. I'm not going to look at lists. I'm not going to look at lists either. I don't have a second monitor. So I'm just going to use memory to them. No lists. Why not? We'll just see how it goes. After all that! I'm not going to do it either. Okay. Well, You know the timer. Okay. I just want to challenge myself. Okay. I want to see how I do without the list. And if I regret this,

You're such a new era player, Joy. You're like, I'm'm here to learn about myself i'm here to challenge myself i've been wanting this since i was five i can't escape it the island changed me okay i'm a different person now okay do whatever you want it's you know challenge yourself sure go on a journey um okay so i think let's test this out let's actually start with dwight okay so dwight i'm gonna read you the scrambled version of a contestant's name and then you can guess who you think it is i will keep the timer and essentially mike i'll let you know when you can give your guests, if you'd like to participate. Okay.

So let's see how this goes. Is it first and last name or just first name? I forgot to ask. Is it first and last? Oh my God. Imagine it was just first name. No, it's first and last name.

That's why I said, look at the list. This next one is Lowe's. Yeah. Like what are we going to do for Sue? It's just Sue. Sue say you yes proper east side okay anyways okay start okay we get it let's all right i'm done whatever i mean i love this i love this so much you know it's all about the journey not the destination so let's go on a journey okay sorry okay all right dwight this is for you okay dwight

you ready okay so your first set is alas the pink alas the pink Pink. I can give you another one. Alpha. Kishan Patel. Yes. Oh, you had one second left. Okay. Congratulations, Dwight. And you did know his last name.

I'm very impressed. I mean, he had a presence in this episode. I did not realize how much the Kishan vote, like, broke Genevieve. That she has this flashback to him whispering i mean we talked about you know people having very memorable reactions to their exits kishan might have been a very low key one considering that he like changed the course of how genevieve thought about survivor which is like i trusted you and you did this to me it was the ghost of kishan it was so creepy he's there haunting all right so mike this

one is for you plasma hen plasma plasma hen plasma and i can give you another one sure anal hemp oh you should have started with anal hemp all right dwight you can guess if you know it yeah sorry sam um he had a lot of good ones. Men alphas, napalm she, shame plan, which is pretty good. Men alpha, I think, is the reason why he's being considered a threat right now. Exactly. All right, Dwight, we're going back to you. Here is your anagram. Llama has unity.

Llama has unity. Your second one is alias manly hut. Mike, you can participate. Okay. Alias manly

hunt. Or llama has unity. You can participate. Okay. Alias Manly Hunt. Or Llama Has Unity. Is... No. Am I dumb? Llama Has Unity. Oh, it's Tiana Hallams. Yes, Mike, that is correct.

Yeah. The Y gave it away. Never would have remembered her last name. So congratulations. All right. Our score is two to one. Dwight is currently winning and we are going to go to Mike for this next one.

So Mike, here is your anagram. Cadaver Lion Rim. Lion Rim? one so mike here is your anagram cadaver lion rim lion rim cadaver lion rim or perhaps maniac rod liver dwight you can participate if you so choose. Cadaver, Lion Rim, Maniac, Rod, Liver. Or perhaps you prefer Animal, Cod, River. I do prefer Animal, Cod, River. I love Cod. What about Icon, Diver, Alarm? Oh, that's an interesting one. Yeah.

Maniac. Oh, wow. Is it Caroline? Caroline Vidmar. Oh, yes. Dwight actually probably said it first. I heard it first from Mike. How much is my delay?

I said a second for him on my end Okay, whatever That's okay, Dwight Because we're going to go back to you Now you have the opportunity to get this So if you can do it in 15 seconds, it's all yours Okay, so Here is your anagram

After Snorter After Snorter After after snorter after snorter or forest ranter forest

forest ranger ranter okay Mike you can participate if you know who it is after snorter is it Taryn Foster it is

his full name is Taryn Foster it is T-K-T-E-R-R-A-N and when he was going on and on about how people should have better attitudes after challenges, I mean, he wasn't in the forest, but he was certainly ranting a lot. Yeah, he was a ranter in the forest, perhaps.

Okay. So, Mike, we are going to go back to you for this next one, and your anagram is Oily Moons! Oily Moons. Oily moons. Oily moons.

Or perhaps noisily moo. Noisily moo. Roam coony. That is incorrect. Dwight, you have the ability to steal. So oily moons. I just sound I sound so weird

oily moons or noisily moo Dwight do you have an answer if I I'm so bad at this without I could just look you got two points right off the bat what do you mean you're bad at this how about yo no limos oh um uh solomony yes thank you yes it was saul because again like i said i used his full name Salmani. Yes. Thank you. Yes. It was Saul.

Cause again, like I said, I used his full name. Okay. So we are all tied up. We have three points for Mike and three points for Dwight. We are, I believe to say, okay, we're going back to Dwight. All right. So Dwight, this is for you. Hellcat Manor. Ooh, I want to live there. Hellcat Manor.

Hellcat Manor. Or perhaps Marathon. Yes, yes yes that was correct Rachel imagine Rachel living in a place called Hellcat Manor Hellcat Manor

she also had that's so thick that'd be very cool marathon cell and cheat man roll I thought those were all pretty good okay Mike

we're gonna go back to you here is your anagram Ed's slow talky ed slow talky or perhaps walk old sty okay dwight would you like to participate Asa Welch that is incorrect oh okay can you read

the name again yes Ed Slowtalkie Ed Slowtalkie Ed Slowtalkie I heard okay is it Delta

Kyle Oswald yes that is correct that's where the W came from Kyle's last name I heard a Y and I'm just like Asia I was like wait no am I stupid yeah I have the same logic I worked my way through the boot list talking about my own internal logic and so every time I hit the Y

I'm like oh it's Asia and then I forget that so many other people have y's in their name this season I thought we got rid of all the y's in this one oh it's this is this time for sure ignore everything else I heard a y here we are gotta be Asia gotta be Asia all right but that's okay Dwight so we're going back to you this will be your first opportunity to answer here is your anagram rig right hash no rig right rash rig right rash rig right rash can we pitch that being the new out widow play outlast yes you need to rig right and rash, or perhaps we could pitch hair grew stir. Grew hair stir. That is correct. Yes.

Oh, so the W was silent and right, like a right brother. Yes. W. Yeah, it was the other right. Or David Wright. The other right. Not the, yeah.

Okay. Mike, if you get this one right, you will tie up the game and we will go to a tiebreaker so let's see if you can get got rabies that's it rabies got that got rabies that's all just got rabies got rabies. That's all? Just got rabies? Got rabies. All right, Dwight, you can participate if you would like. Oh, what am I going to do? Yes.

No, I heard it from Dwight first. I heard it from Dwight first. You got revenge on the delay for me. Exactly. Well, congratulations, Dwight. Even with the delay, you were able to beat Mike. A few others for those who we didn't read their anagrams i made them for all of them so asia that you were all trying to guess uh asia had

clash yeehaw which i thought was quite i think that's what you thought would be one of the kyle-isms of like kyle this is a real clash yeehaw you know what they say it's burning as bright as a clash yeehaw um john lovett was jet loon tv which was pretty good genevieve has a lot of letters to play with so one of hers was avenue. Give me Hulk's. I'd love to drive on Avenue. Give me Hulk's. Sue opposite spectrum. Not a lot to play with. So Sue's was I must or seize.

Yum. Oh, I like that one. It's it's like, OK, what do you want to do for the reward challenge? I've got to seize. Yum. Seize. Yum. Oh, I know you're're silly you're talking like a pirate i seize you i seize yum um teeny teeny says choleric rich nihilist a little bit of a tongue twister or a cirrhotic chili shine. Oh, I like that.

Or my personal favorite is chronicler. I shit chili. Oh no, that's bad. I know. Should they serve chili on the island or is that going to cause the very outcome you're imagining? Absolutely not. Yeah, no, no, no.

Andy's, uh, outcome you're imagining absolutely not yeah no no um andy's uh unread day or dandieria a annika uh not a ton from her not a lot of letters to play with but uh aha i drank so this is again this pirate talking character. I drink. Yeah. And then Rome or Jerome Cooney wants Joey more or come jeer yo on. I don't know. Anyway, I mean, come jeer is what he was saying when he makes certain posts about booting people from RHAP. Exactly. Come jeer on yo all right well we uh unscrambled those dwight i'm genuinely impressed not looking at the list having the delay that was very very impressive uh but mike you too as well it was a really really close game i came down to seconds for two of those answers. And it was a close score of six to four. Well,

thank you, Liana, as always for coming up with these brilliant ones for, uh, back during, uh, another pirate theme season. No,

I think, I mean, Jeff, like sometimes speaks in a pirate voice. He's recently spoken in British accent, which I feel like is pirate adjacent. Hmm. Is it,

I mean, have you met any pirates that weren't british with british accents what a good point like all the pirates we know speak with british accents i i guess so so jeff is just one step removed from talking in pirate talk, which I'm just saying, yeah, every British dialect is like one eye patch removed from being a pirate. Egg leg removed.

Yeah, exactly. Just remove one leg and drop the leg. Drop the leg, keep the eye. Oh, brutal. And then, you know, I feel like they were kind of keel hauling as well that that podium which pirates used to do back in the day as well dragging them underwater like that poor podium they didn't deserve it jeff and you're dragging you drowned it for no good reason podium thrown was the podium attached to those things like could they i'm gonna drag it back up or

did it just say all right cool that's gone forever like it wasn't attached to the podium attached to those things? Like, could they... Are they going to drag it back up? Or did they just say, all right, cool, that's gone forever? Like... Was it attached to the podium? Like, could they bring it back? So I... The balls definitely fell out of the thing. Yeah. I thought. So I don't...

I thought so, too. So... The platform, I think... Like, the actual wooden thing, I think, was attached. Yeah, so there's a story on on fire of course about like how this entire this entire contrivance delightfully so ended up coming about and part of it was that initially they wanted to just throw one anchor over and

like give them a specific amount of time and so for that they actually had to send out the dive team to like scout out possible locations to be able to retrieve the anchor because despite the fact that they take up you know pretty permanent residence in fiji six months out of the year they try to use the national park motto of like leave things better than how you found them uh so they had to find a place where they could recover everything and not just leave a bunch of colorful balls floating through the pacific ocean willy-nilly just leave the garbage yeah like imagine like it didn't take place that far away from the beach and so it's like rachel you're absolutely lying and then a bunch of balls just wash up on shore they probably believe her then at least

yeah a little too late yeah yeah it would be uh twilight zone irony right up like we voted rachel such a ridiculous story and then like the placard with the information on it washes up on the beach the next day yeah exactly oh god all right well dwight we are uh going to submerge ourselves into a charity or cause that you want to highlight for the listeners out there of the bnb what should people uh give their time and possibly money to from your perspective um so i like that i will always uh sponsor st jude children's hospital from memphis i think that's always a good cause to look into give uh back to help uh children i need uh that need medical support but also recently uh trans lifeline is organization uh that helps uh

trans people in the community um been uh friend of, Brandon, has been doing a lot of stuff for them recently, and I believe there's an Instagram. It's happening on the day of filming, but some Survivor alum are doing an Instagram live for... I forget what organization it's for, but it's supporting trans lives, but something in general. So I just want to give that shout out as well.

If you're seeing this, maybe go back and watch the live if you can. It's happening as of the day we're filming. But yeah, are two things i'm mainly important today yeah to highlight that a bit more because i actually just had uh dr evie jagoda on tv for real as well to plug this i think it's a trans futures i believe is the uh charity and so yeah we're obviously it's going on right now from a live stream perspective a bunch of alumni are coming on as well as some rjp podcasters uh you can text trans futures all one word to 44321 to make a donation at any time so yeah absolutely uh be sure to do that support of course evy and all the great work they're doing as well as all the alumni that are popping on with that dwight thank you so much

amidst your Thanksgiving celebrations, amidst a delay, you did not delay in coming on and bringing the absolute fire as you usually do. What would you like to plug? Of course, we are approaching a new month of the holiday season,

but you're never going to stop streaming these games that we all love to play. So what do you have on deck for December? Yeah, just regular restreaming Clock Tower, Saturday and Monday. Typically, Saturday will be with our JP crew and some of the alumni from Survivor. There are other shows and just more people. Hopefully get some more new people to try it out pretty soon.

I know some people have been playing recently that are new to the game. So I can get on stream sometime. But I do that on Twitch. The is doing more more than my last name And then the do you get stuck with Pia and RGP crew on Sundays? So that's where I stream and that's kind of Yeah, I'm Twitter Instagram my posts on occasion. Let's be real. I'm not using media guy just twitch follow me on Twitch I mean, oh, it's to me. Um. But yeah, we've been doing that a lot. But yeah, come check out Clock Tower.

There's a couple, there's a video on RJP about us playing Clock Tower. And I think some, one or another might come out in a month or so as well. So those are some edited videos for you guys to enjoy that game.

Okay. Yeah. More survivors playing hardcore head games on the horizon. Who from this 47 cast would you like to see play Blood on the Clock Tower

either for good or maybe for not so good? Genevieve, Caroline, Rachel. I think for sure. I know I want to reach out to. I need to figure out who else would enjoy it. But I feel like those three would be the gamer type who would enjoy Clock Tower in the

first place. And other people might just want to try it out but those like the first thing that came to mind was like i want to see them try it out see how they do it do with it yeah i do think that maybe if we're not going to have a live reunion the next best thing we could get dwight is for you to get as many cast members from one season on a post-season game of like a blood on the clock tower together and just see them all kind of hash it out there you know maybe that's where they kind of let those grudges bleed out on the battlefield or they're able to catch up with each other in a public setting you know if they're not going to get covered from the production perspective we could do it ourselves

under the guise of this very heady game exactly oh also um asia doug because i've messaged asia about this so many times obviously during filming she can't do it i'm just like clock tower please i'm just like wait just things in the air because i'll forget i missed the podcast i'm just like wait i i literally can't get her on right now so I need to get Asia into Clock Tower desperately this is my life goal at this point so alright well Dwight I wish you all the best on your life goals both immediate and long term

I guess I should say that more often to people as I wish you the best of luck on your life goals feels very Kyle right I'm like gotta give it a buck twenty do well on your life goals it's so formal i wish you the best of luck on your future endeavors yeah exactly exactly am i getting fired what is this i'm getting fired yeah exactly sounds like we're never gonna talk to you again like all right good luck

yeah yeah i was like um guys are you blocking my number after this am i done never never yeah get out well liana you are soon to be breaking up with the mass singer as we are careening towards the end game there are they're ending before survivor uh let's see we have i believe so we definitely have three episodes left um so that would end us on the 18th okay yes uh and listen it'll be a bit of an earlier night for people it'll be only a two-hour final episode so that's plenty of time to squeeze it in plenty of time to hear you and puya break it all down that's right yes we just covered the group c finals. So we're going into the quarter finals semis and then the eventual final.

So just three more episodes for us to wrap up the season. But, but it's always a good time and stay on the lookout for, for new things to come. Okay. I wish you the best of luck in those. So those life goals. Just tearing it up.

You can follow Liana where you're at at liana ism on blue sky right yeah yeah you can follow me there at a mike bloom type i mentioned before due to the holiday talking with kyle on monday very excited to not only get his opinions about things but i think there are some questions that need to be answered with uh some things that have been maybe said about him in other interviews. So I'm excited to get Kyle's side of the story about that and just to talk to him in general. He seems like he's an incredibly genuine, genial guy. And I'm excited to not only have him on our screens, but to have him on my screen tomorrow to discuss everything that happened with this game.

Other than that, all the usual things that are going on on my end. And the last thing I want to say is that I'm very thankful for this podcast. happened with this game other than that all the usual things that are going on on my end uh and the last thing i want to say is that i'm very thankful for this podcast you know as we are coming out of a long weekend with thanksgiving uh this probably would have been like the best episode to have on while you're kind of distracted by family members and other michigans going on in the background and look it's fine as I mentioned before sometimes Survivor episodes are like this but no matter what I really do enjoy this cast and I think they're going to provide

a meal no matter what the caloric you know amount of it might be for a year a month and a half every single week month and a half an hour and a half every single week maybe the last episode felt like a month and a half at certain points, but we're

doing that like a little bit tipsy challenge with spelling out the words. But I certainly am not immune from misappropriating my definitions here. And next week, we will be joined by Mari Forth to once again talk about, surprisingly,

the last pre-finale, technically speaking, episode of survivor, not the penultimate one, because again, we have this two part four hour finale, but we will get our several place boot. We will see if it will indeed just be one of Genevieve or Sam. It looks like Andy is continuing to pull an Andy and maybe cause some chaos

along the way of the already cemented majority will have their own uprising from within as we have probably what, like a week left, basically in game of stuff. So you could tell a lot of people already have day 26 on their minds and we're happy to have the BNB on your mind that you make your way out of this long holiday weekend into whatever happens next.

Oh, and Dwight, you will be in houston right as well for the rhap event yes i will be there so i'm excited to uh see everybody there it should be fun yeah so give dwight a hey if you're there or a howdy if you're in texas i hear that's how they talk liana that's That's right. I mean, you know, you're asking the experts, so... Classicalism there. But I hope everyone has a great time there

on Wednesday. We'll be back Sunday with Mari to break down the third-to-last episode of Survivor 47. Send us any game ideas we have, but a few weeks left, but we're still accepting of anything you may send our way, rhapbnb at gmail.com or

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