RHAP: We Know Survivor - Exit Interview: Second Juror Voted Out Survivor 48

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

Rob Cesternino (@RobCesternino) interviews the latest castaway voted off the Survivor 48 island, followed by This Week In Survivor History with Jordan Kalish (@JordanKalish) where Rob plays against an RHAP patron.

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down last night with Stephen Fischbach on the Survivor Know-it-Alls. Plus I'll be talking about it today with the great Drew Bacille coming up later on Thursday. You can see all that on our YouTube channel when you go to watchrhap.com. I got Chrissy here on the line. Let's go ahead and patch her in. Hey Chrissy, what's going on? Rob says, you know, RHAP.

How are you doing today? I'm doing all right. Yeah. I came home early last night. I didn't go drown my sorrows or anything. That's good. Very responsible. Chrissy, I got to imagine.

It must be so frustrating for you, because here you are. You're a person who hold up a picture in the preseason. I want to quote, I don't think super fans make the game better. You told Mike Bloom, I hate it when these nerds cheat and print the puzzles at home. How are you being the face of like, hey, we, the strong people don't like all these

conniving super fans. Okay. I said what I said right I didn't realize I was gonna insult the whole world of survivor fans because they're all talking about that part I'm talking about the guys that wanted to say we got to get rid of Chrissy you're you should be in the strong five as far as I'm concerned how How about that? There you go. I like that. I like that. Yeah. I think, I think when we, we picked tribes that second round, I got, I unfortunately got stuck with say Cedric, Bianca and Mitch, all the people that are on the bottom and then me. So that just outlaid the rest of my, my experience. I think, I think all those strong people, did you see it was David and

all the girls and Camilla and all the guys, strong people, did you see it was David and all the girls and Camilla and all the guys, I mean, and they formed these bonds that I just, I was behind the eight ball. Yeah. Okay, well, last night you ended up being the target of everybody's vote. And I kind of thought you were gonna go play

the shot in the dark. Was there a reason why you didn't play the shot in the dark? I didn't even think about playing the shot in the dark. Was there a reason why you didn't play the shot in the dark? I didn't even think about playing the shot in the dark. I don't know why I didn't. I look back and I'm like, why didn't I? But it didn't even pop in my head. I knew I was going home, obviously, cuz that's why I was just going out swinging like that, just throwing everybody's name out there and yelling, David yelling at me and stuff. But no, I didn't want to stay like that. I didn't want to stay by chance

because they were picking us off like we were like, that's all they were doing. Were you surprised that even Mitch voted for you? No, I saw it in all their faces during tribal council. Once I started opening my mouth and I knew that it was coming to me, I was like, fuck it, let's just do this then, you know? And so, you know. Had you been aware of sort of like the tense conversations

that went around about who the vote was going to be? I wish David would have came to me if David wanted Camilla out so bad. I don't know why he didn't come to me. Kyle went to Camilla, so she had a heads up that it was gonna be either me or her Gave her a fighting chance if I would have known I would have zipped my mouth Maybe a little bit and sort of tried to steer it towards Camilla a little bit, you know But I had no idea that that whole thing was going on

Chrissy what happened between you and David cuz I'm old enough to remember when there was a four-person alliance back at old Siva to remember when there was a four-person alliance back at old SEVA where it was every, but we all think that charity might be shady and you were in the four-person alliance and the humble traits. What happened? What happened was when we switched tribes, I saw when we got back that David hooked on to Mary. You could see, you could see this bond that David and I'm like, shit, I think we lost David. And then he always talked about doing challenges against Joe and I want to go against Joe and they don't show it, but I was sobbing that day. I never cried and I hit by the water well sobbing to David saying you're here to win a million dollars, not to play reindeer games with Joe, you know, like, like what are you doing? You know and and and I could see in his eyes that I he was torn But he was leaning towards them and I'm like shit a lot. I lost David

Chrissy I want to go back to the split tribal council last week and you know I can't even say that I thought of this in the real time But I heard Sam Phelan say like you know what they should have done. They should have gotten Chrissy and say and Mitch and use Mitch's block of vote and maybe star and break up Joe and evil at the split tribal council. Was that something that was even percolating? Well, there was a couple of things to that. First of all, the person that went home was not making the journey.

So that sort of scares you a little bit. It puckers you up a little bit and you're like, okay, do I wanna make this move? They don't show up at Joe and I were sitting on the beach and he like sternly said to me, you're not voting out Eva tonight, are you? Like, I was like, oh no. And I was like, shit, I look back and I'm

like thinking about that conversation. Like I should have, I should have, even though I might have went home because I didn't know star at that point, really, you know, so. But say he had come back, say went for a walk, say is crazy, say went back for a walk.

Lovingly crazy. What lovingly say is crazy. Of course I love her. I love her to death. When she called me a course. I love her. I love her to death. When she called me a psychopath, I text her. I'm like, psychopath. But she went for a walk with Eva and came back and said, whatever we do on that voting for Eva, what came out of her mouth.

And I was like, you don't even know Eva. But so that sort of store stare, I'm like, all right, then it's you, you know, whatever. Yeah. Were you surprised that when you watched the episode last night that Eva came back and was telling a lot of was being a little bit of a snitch. Yes she was. I think she saw that I saw her and Joe's alliance were so tight that that I was going to try to break them up and I And I think she got a feeling of that. And I'm not a man, obviously she likes working with guys. She says it herself. So they don't show it in tribal too.

When I go after them, somebody asked about her autism. And I think she even brings it up during the thing. They don't show it, but it has nothing to do with her autism. I'm like, she heard Joe are two strong players. And if anybody can't see that they are, they are so strong and they're working together outright, you know, like it just blows my mind. Yeah. Do you feel like that all of the other players are sort of just like falling in line because that they're afraid to upset the apple cart with this strong pair.

Yeah, I that's exactly what's going on. I in Chicago, we get a lot of snow. And then when I was a kid in the winter, we would be the big, big pile of snow and it was called King of the Hill. And the King of the Hill would sit on top of the pile. And the rest of the kids were run up and try to push the key. Nobody wants to run up the hill and push the king off the hill. I'm like, what's going on here? We're just let him sit there and go and boom, boing, you know, like. Yeah. All right. I want to go back to one of the earlier votes in the season. And we had the point where Bianca did not have a vote. She told Cedric and somehow Cedric got you to vote with him and take out Bianca. What was that lead up to that like?

Well, they didn't show, again, a lot of that. Bianca was the vote for me the whole time, really. I mean, say it was getting on my nerves like no tomorrow. But in my head, I wanted Bianca just because she was part of the, you know, the strong group back. And if we went back, you know, say, say is annoying, but say is harmless. Nobody's gonna give say a million dollars, say could have went all the way to the end for all I care, but it really was Bianca the whole time.

And then they don't show, Set and I really got along cause we're older, we're both in the medical field. We sort of bonded a little bit. So it was more of a look like, you know, all right, it's her like kind of thing. And that's all I needed. Mitch, Mitch was all over the place. I'm trying to reel him in and Mitch is like, like running around with his chicken, his head cut off. I'm like, oh my God, he was, he's, you know, it was crazy. I'm like Mitch, come back to earth. Yeah. So what about your relationship with Mitch?

Because it seemed like in the pre-swap, you two weren't that close. But then it seemed like you became a lot closer after you stayed on SEVA together. We were close pre-swap, because we worked a lot of the challenges together. Mitch and I paired up a lot. He was very calming to me, being the gym teacher,

helped me through a lot. So I think we bond. But him and Charity, he just went to the wrong person to bond with, which was Charity, which sort of sucked. So I couldn't get as close as I wanted to with Mitch. But then when we got stuck on with the second tribe, with Cedric, Sey, and Bianca, I mean, like we're all on the body,

and five people on the bottom in one tribe, you know, we got a little bit tighter there. But even then, he, he, we were all playing from the bottom and it's hard to play from the bottom when you've got such strong people playing from the top. Sure. And announcing like, Hey, where are the people on the top? They weren't even walking away. We would walk in the trails and like talk or they would just sit at camp and just talk strategy and point at us. At least that's what I felt. You know, a lot of paranoia sneaks in and you see stuff going on. But it to me, it wasn't they weren't even trying to hide it, you know, which

pissed me off. Chrissy, from our perspective at home, it seems crazy to think that people don't know Kyle and Kamila are a duo and a pair. Was you were in the first tribe with them. So were you aware of how close they were? And were you surprised that people felt like that they weren't on the same page? No, I looking at it now, I'm like, how did I not see that? Like, like they they are doing a great job of concealing their third.

I mean, I knew we were the SEVA four, but I had no idea that they were the dynamic dual, because they really are. Yeah. Were you expecting SEVA to stick together for the vote that you went to last night? Let's hope it. I mean, me and Mitch, they show Mitch bringing it up.

But both Mitch and I were like, we have five. We have five SEVA. There was a starting to have a vote for. I mean, it was just, it could have been an easy. And then if David wanted to go play reindeer games with, then do it. But let's like, let's do something now, you know, while we have the opportunity and, and, and just David didn't want to do it. And, and Kyle and Camilla, I don't blame them. They were playing in the middle. They had the perfect spot. If they, if strong five was going to go, then they can go that way. But if Siva was going to stand up and have some balls, they could have went that way,

you know, but they were playing the middle, which was the perfect spot for both of them. If they would have brought you in for a plan, Hey, let's take out Camilla. Obviously you don't want to go home, but would you be looking for a different option or that would have been fine with you? No, that would have been fine at that point. you know, as long as it's not my name I had no idea Camilla was on the board, you know Yeah, when you'd said last episode about how hey if they were smart they would take out Shaheen What was it about Shaheen that you felt like that? He was the right target?

well, it was just the the pairings that were over there the Cedric was the easy vote, and he sort of knew he was on the bottom. But David sort of started swirling around Shaheen's name. I don't think David ever really trusted Shaheen. So they had the numbers to maybe switch it around and use Cedric as a vote. Yeah, and they just didn't. Did anybody else besides Mary think that Shaheen and Camilla could be a possible duo? Well, that's funny because that pick, this challenge, that last pick, when we are standing on the beach and they're like, how are we going to do this? And I was like, well, let's do like

random five guys, five girls. And they all shot me down. And I was like, okay, I see what's going. And they don't show it. but Joe picked Eva right away. That was the first pick. Joe goes, I got Eva. And then David goes, I got Mary. And then, then Shaheen goes, I got Camilla. Then Mitch says, I got Kyle. And there's me and Starr just standing there.

And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, this is not going to work. And I bitched that Kyle and Mitch were going, and then Kyle was kind enough to go, okay, I'll take you Chrissy. But that's the way. And it just showed it. It laid out what exactly what was happening right there. You know, it was right on basis. Oh, that's so interesting. Cause they made it really seem like Shaheen was like, Hey, first pick Camilla. No, it was Joe, Joe, Eva. It was like Dave and Mary. Yeah, it was, it was quite obvious. So did you see anything that Mary was seeing to make you think that Shaheen

and Camilla had something going on? After that pick, after that pick, it sort of made sense. And when they went for that after they lost and they went, they don't show it, but Star comes running back out of the boat and Star was like, Chrissy, they're working together. Cause Star's not an idiot. She saw the balls. She saw that they were purposely giving her the red balls. And right there told me that if Camilla was smart,

she would have went, they would have tried to get Shaheen to lose his boat. So now you've got one of the strong people that doesn't have a boat. Instead you put it on Star. Like, so yeah. So right there there when star came running back and she's like, they're working together. I saw it. I started had a feeling that they were playing. They told me they were playing the middle middle. Kyle and Camilla were very upfront

with me that they were playing. They were going to play the strong people, but they were also still with us. Um, and, and like I said, they were in the perfect position You know and my role was like to sort of lay low and then when the SEVA 4 can Charge we were gonna charge But we lost David that was the big we lost David. Chrissy was there anything else about your game that you think people should find out about that you want to let them know? Well, I just think I wish they would have put a like disclaimer under me, like she's 55, she's 55 because I'm freaking old and they're young and it was hard and they're very strategic and I give a props to everybody. What was hard physically or the strategy was hard? Both, both physically.

I thought I can go in really with the strategy part, but they are masterminds. My brain doesn't think as well as they do, obviously. And the challenges, I would get sick to my stomach. I'm like, oh, I just don't want to be bad at challenges and show weakness. Every day I would hurt something. I'm like, oh my God, everything hurt on me, but I couldn't show it. I was like, yeah, I'm tough. But I was really crying inside the whole time. Yeah, okay. Well, Chrissy, you and Cedric got to reunite

at the Ponderosa, and sure, fun times with Cedric. He's my best buddy right now, by the way. Me and Ced are like. King and queen of Ponderosa, so looking forward to seeing how you two vote at the end of this thing. But Chrissy, thank you so much for making some time to talk about this and all the best outside survivor, okay? Thank you so much, take care. Take care, Chrissy, thank you so much for making some time to talk about this and all the best outside survivor. OK, thank you so much.

You take care. Take care, Chrissy. Bye. Bye. All right, everybody. There you have it. There's Chrissy Sarnowski. And I have to say, I kind of thought if you would have told me that somebody during this season was going to be really railing for the hey, honor, loyalty, integrity, none of this strategy, none of these nerds. I kind of thought it was going to be Chrissy based off of how she set things up in the preseason. But ultimately she ends up being the person who gets voted out by the group that's looking for honor and loyalty and integrity. So how do you like that? All right. But Chrissy, great job.

Very fun to talk to you on the interview. We still have more fun for you when I come back. We've got a very special episode of This Week in Survivor History. Rob's Fact Checker will be here checking all the facts from Jordan Kalish in Survivor History when we come back right after this. All right, everybody, let's do a little This Week in Survivor history and we've got a good one here today back here with a man who is joining us from the Mile High City. It's Jordan Kalish.

Jordan, how are you? I'm good. Not being affected too much by the elevation sickness, but I am up here in the mountains recording Twitch, baby. Yes. Okay. All baby. Yes, okay. All right, well, we have reached new heights for sure here. How's your week going, Jordan? It's great, we got the fresh mountain air

and I'm in here doing Survivor trivia, so it's been perfect, but I am, I have technically not gone yet, by the time you're listening to this, I will have done this, but I am going to a viewing party in Denver tonight, where there's a Jordan Kalish, to this, I will have done this. But I am going to a viewing party in Denver tonight where there's a Jordan Kalis. There must be a Survivor viewing party.

OK, you would bring the Survivor viewing party to? They've been doing the Survivor viewing party. But I did post in the RHAP group about it. And then a bunch of people in Denver were like, oh, I didn't know there was this viewing party. So I guess I've helped grow it at least for a while. Bring everybody together. Tell your friends.

Go to weknowsurvivor.com. All right. So we are, of course, very lucky here today because we have here a man that I've known for quite some time. You may know him on social media. He goes by at Rob's Fact Checker. He'd started out, he used to just check all of the things I got wrong on the podcast, but he has now expanded

to keeping tabs on all things Survivor. Please welcome in Costa, Costa, how are you? I'm doing great, so excited to be here. It's been a long time in the making. Well, it's nice to see you, but I'm not that excited that you're here because I feel like that. What chance do I have against Rob's fact checker? You made a career off of finding all my mistakes. That's true. But I have like the value of hindsight in my survivor databases. So in this sense, I have no database to tap into. It's all in the brain,

which is pretty solid, but not as solid as my database. Costa, could we do this isn't pod friends, but if we could get your origin story, was there one thing that I got wrong that was just so abhorrent that you said, all right, I need to make a whole account to set the record straight? I think one of them was you'd always say token teens back in the day as a season. And that would always kind of got under my skin. So that might have been the tipping point. I should say it token jeans. Perfect. Yeah. You got it right for a long time,

but 14 years ago when I made this account, you were not saying it correctly. And is that one of your favorite seasons? It's a great season. I think it kind of like the coach Tyson brought me back. It was at point where I had a swiver lull. Everyone has that lull at some point and token jeans brought me back a little bit.

So it's a season I love. Forget Rob's fact checker. I was watching a video the other day where Jeff tried to name the winners of all the seasons and he could only call that season coach's season and he couldn't remember JT was the winner. That's insane. And no one could catch me. If only we could remember, this may be a good trivia question to have.

Okay. But check out everything that Costa has going on. He's down to like tracking the time on screen by the second of people talking. Like forget confessionals. That we, I know last week we lost Say, but how historic was Say's run on Survivor? Basically she set a ton of records and the confessional department, for episode one, two, three, four,

all the way up through episode seven, which she left in, she has a record for the most confessionals for the number of episodes that she was in. So Russell has a record going forward, but she basically blew up every record from episode one to seven. Now, do we have to have like some kind of asterisk

in the record book for 90 minute seasons versus 60 minute seasons? I think so. It have like some kind of asterisk in the record book for 90 minute seasons versus 60 minute seasons? I think so. It's like the starter of baseball. There's like, are those really records? Are they not? I think that's what you ask. In some sense, like the numbers there, it's the biggest, but also there is an asterisk.

How did she compare to people that played in 60 minute seasons? Pretty highly too. I think she's still like easily top 10. I think there's Gina Cruz is one person who is a random person that got a ton of confessionals as a pre-emerge person. But Andrew Savage is up there for Pearl Island's pre-emerge confessionals. But she's it's pretty historic no matter what. OK, all right.

Jordan, are you ready today to I hope you're at the top of your game, because if Rob's fact checker is checking me, guess what he's going to do to you. Well Rob's fact checker has fact checked me before. He's posted a lot of like twish stats also. I don't think it's happened in a while but I remember there was a point where you were posting I think Rob's win record what percent I was doing certain survivor seasons and it actually made me think like there were a couple of seasons that I was leaving out. So I think I started doing some more of those seasons. So I think it has been overall helpful to the podcast. But this has been a pretty good season for I think I'm like five and two this season going into week. Yeah. Strongest season. You were nine and four last season and five and seven. Hey, look, if the Jets could only, I think Costa would absolutely win this week in this week in survivor history. Okay. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. All the stats, all the Jets could only. I think Kostas would absolutely win this week in this week in Survivor history. OK, guaranteed. All the stats, all the stats.

All right. So what are our categories? Here are the categories. Five and two going on five and three. Kostas, you could tell me if after this, if there are any seasons that I have not been using enough this season, but for here, I have the old era mystery box. I have Caramoan. I have HHH, Ghost Island, 41 and 42 so we have a old school and then a bunch of new school. Could you say the numbers or the seasons one more time? Sure we have an old era mystery box, Caramohan, HHH, Ghost Island, 41 42. It's like a murderer's row of great seasons.

Okay all right Costa you're the guest you get us started. Tough one here but I'll go with HHH to start. All right heroes, healers, hustlers who earned an extra vote at a future tribal council due to abstaining on the vote in which Desi Williams was voted out? Okay. So I know it's a multiple choice option, but I feel like I'm going to go for the Gusto as much I can in here. That's just more fun anyway. So I believe this was Lauren Rimmer that did this. It's more fun and it's more points close to you start with two. Lauren Rimmer did bank her vote on the Desi Williams vote

and earned a extra vote at a future tribal council. So you have a two zero lead. Very good start. Rob, you need to try to match Costa here. Where are we going? Boy. OK. Let me go to 42 right 42 the old era of the new era which player won the first two individual immunity challenges of survivor 42 which player won the first two individual challenges. And to go for the gusto here, it is crazy. That is, is the answer.

Was it Tory? Tory is not a crazy answer. It is the correct answer. And you have equaled cost is to be total. Yeah, Compy story she she wins the first two and then the she gets voted out on the split try to say I met her at Maryann's wedding and She was a delight I'm sure and

She was she doing any like any physical No, I mean she was in Maryann's wedding party and you know, I think that the bride has had to do a lot of stuff, but. Did she catch the bouquet? I feel like she would be a prime contender to catch the bouquet. I don't remember. I don't recall. Are you good these challenges? She's blown up on Instagram. She has like 300,000 Instagram followers. Why would she do it? Do I want to, Costa? I think this one's safe. There's nothing about, there's maybe health related,

but not in the way you think. Okay. She's an influencer. She's an influencer, yeah. She makes like a reel every day and she blew up over the last like three months or so. What the hell am I? I do this podcast every day

and I'm still waiting for it to blow up. And then Tori just does an Instagram reel every day and now she's bigger than me? What the hell? More followers. We won't say bigger, she has more Instagram followers than you. Maybe she'll start doing a trivia segment

on her Instagram page and you'll be the answer to one of the questions. I do this podcast, from the second I wake up to when I go to bed, she does an Instagram reel for one minute. Get on. You should get more Instagram reels, Rob. I think you could, you could make it. You could make it in this town. I sit here. I took the Jordan Kalish for every week for 12 years. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe that's why you haven't blown up yet.

All right. That was a good reel. Yeah. Costa just need one day. Where are we going? Do you prefer Costa or Rob's fact checker? Either. Either is great. Does anybody ever call you RFC? No, but that can be anyone. Yeah. And then you'll have an RFC Junior and they won't like him as much. OK, Costa, what season are we going to next? I'm tempted by the mystery box, but that can be kind of hard sometimes. So I'll go I'll go forty one. All right. Forty one. The other new season. This episode was entitled Betrayed are a term coined by which player who became suspicious that they were being turned on by someone on their tribe?

Definitely have some ideas for this one, but not as confident I do track that's rare Who said the title of the episode question? Yeah, not normally a twish staple Not always it's happened before okay, but that's why I said not normally a twish staple. Not always. It's happened before. OK, but that's why I said not normally a twish staple. Hey, we are in the weeds right now. We're at the episode. Well, you're in Denver, so I assume. Yes. Not my not my vice. Yeah, give me the multiple choice on this one.

OK, was it A, D'Shawn, B, Shan, C, Tiffany, D, Xander? Okay, was it A, Deshaun, B, Shan, C, Tiffany, D, Xander? Yeah, the one that was in my mind coming in was Xander, so I'm just gonna go with my gut on that one and say it was Xander. So if you're correct, you get one point. If not, Rob will get a chance to steal one point, but you are correct, this is Xander. Xander, known for getting credit for things he didn't say,

like mercatory, which was Tiffany, but he did say Betrayed things. He didn't say like merge authority, which was Tiffany, but he did say betrayed our He was worried that actually Shan was potentially going to turn on him Shannon Leona. So Costa you have a three to one lead Rob. You get to choose the next category. Oh, wait, wait, wait three to one lead There's the fact-checking three to two I have I have a two in my in my content I know I said one I'm an honest guy Okay, all right, let me go with 26 26 caramohan in the famous hold up bro tribal council in which Malcolm convinced Reynolds to play his idol for Malcolm despite being in possession of his own idol who was voted out I

play his idol for Malcolm despite being in possession of his own idol who was voted out. I believe it was the great Michael Snow. Michael Snow is correct. That is another two points for Rob. Rob has a four to three lead, which that I believe is correct. Yes, this is the Michael snow tribal tribal I feel like this is a tough question because I think people sometimes conflate the hold-up bro and the three amigos where Where Philip was voted out? But yeah good good move by Malcolm to convince his buddy, Randall to play the idol

He didn't have to use his own so it is a four three lead for Rob Costa This is going to be your last category that you get to choose where we're going. Is it snowy in Denver? Not today, but it will be tomorrow on Friday. It's been like 70s and 80s while I've been here, but the mountain road weather is crazy. It's going to turn to like 30s and snowing on Friday. Oh my God. Get out while you can, Jordan. I know.

All right. I don't go for the old era mystery box. I love the new old era. So give me that one. The old era. And I feel like this this is a question. And I don't know who the the guests are until I see them right before we record. But I feel like this could be a good question for Rob's fact checker, because I feel like it's something that you might tweet

in the first eight seasons of Survivor. what is the only season in which the first juror was from the same starting tribe as the eventual winner? Oh, okay. First juror was from the same tribe as the winner. Okay, so let's go down the line here. Greg, not from Pagong, not from Richard's Tribe. Next season, Alicia, I believe, not on that one. Three, Africa, Kelly Goldsmith. I think that's the right one, but I'm going to keep going down the line. I'm going to guess, so number four, who's first juror? Mark Kasus. John Carroll, not on Vespius' team.

Then it's Aaron, not on Brian's. Dave Johnson, bangerang, not from Jenner's tribe. And Pearl Islands was Ryan. So, first juror wasn't the same tribe as the winner. Yeah, I'm gonna say Kelly Goldsmith, Africa is final answer. It was Africa and it was Kelly Goldsmith. I believe all that information you gave was correct. You need to get the first jurors. So, Kostya, you get two points

there. You have five. Rob has four. I knew that when I saw you, I was like, if you get the old ever mystery box, you will get that right. I believe Rob would have also gotten it right. I think that was in both of your wheel houses. Rob, you need to get at least one point. I need to get at least one to tie, but two can win. Two can end it. Two to win. Zero can lose it. We're going to Survivor Ghost Island.

I believe I've been, I feel like I've used Ghost Island. I feel like that's one of the seasons I use more often. I think the Ghost Island aspect lends itself to trivia. But here we go. At the tribal in which Michael Yerger negated seven votes. Let me read that again. At the tribal in which Michael Yerger negated seven votes against himself with his play of the effing stick idol,

who was voted out with only four votes against? OK. I believe it was the great, the legendary Libby Libby, Vin check. I believe she has a friend on this season. Who was her friend again? What? Who did someone said they knew Libby in the pregame? They were, they like got notes from Libby. I don't remember who that was, but you did remember that Libby was the one who got four votes here. So Rob, you get two points. You win the game. He did not do an exit interview famously. And I believe, I think that I was able to send in questions that were then I got transcribed answers. I believe Liana then appeared on

the podcast as Libby. I remember that And then I don't know if this was like that the great Libby was you know an early person who was like a squeaky wheel who did not like the coverage on the podcast or just Was just sort of like nonplussed about survivor and then didn't do the exit I don't remember if she did exit interviews with like Dalton Ross or anybody else. But yeah, I did. We did not get a Libby exit interview. Well, when Morgan Ricky was voted out, she said, don't trust the bond. And I guess that we couldn't trust her to come on the exit interview. But I think it was probably better. Did you watch the other show that Libby was on? I did not watch that

show with Stephanie Gonzalez and Missy Bird. Wait, I kind of remember. What show was this? Nobody ever remembered this being a thing. There was like some show where it was like they fight and do stuff. Of course, like to survive. It was another island show. That's all I know. Fight to Survive sounds right. House House of House of Glac of glaciers. Glaciers. You don't

remember the glaciers. Amazing race show on the glacier. That's an old that's an old reference. The glaciers I think it was a celebrity apprentice. I don't remember. We used to refer to people's glaciers. But anyway it was people who didn't do much. Blocked out a lot of the celebrity apprentices, Jordan. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Yeah. Okay. So the bad news, Costa, you did lose the game by a score of six to five. What an upset.

It's rare that I'm the underdog, Costa. The score went up for the little guys. You didn't even get a question wrong. The little content creators, not the big dogs like Tory Meehan. Just the little guy gets a win today. All right, but Costa, the good news is that we're all winners here on Twitch because we get to do the verbal rebus, baby, woo!

Costa, what's your take on the verbal rebus? Your pro verbal rebus? I'm a fan, yeah. He wants everyone on Twitch, but I think verbal rebus should be always a fan. Okay. We gotta do an oops-, Verbal Rebus episode. I heard something in Boston.

Can I share it with you? Sure. I heard somebody came up to me and they told me like, Rob, I'm actually anti-Verbal Rebus. Ooh. And they said, there's a lot of us. I don't, who's the majority of people shadowy. There's a shadow of the anti-verbal rebus and they're afraid to speak out.

Yes. This is Boston Rob. This is, this is the whole red side. It's not as smart enough. This is, this is anti New York bias here. That's not enough. This is this is anti New York bias here showing this is not this is not anti verbal rebus. I do not agree to do this fireball shot and shut up. All right. So the verbal rebus. Here we go. We're doing it anyway. I don't care about these stupid Boston fans. All right. Sorry. Okay. Sorry. I've definitely used this as a verbal rebus clue before many times. Sarge's real first name. Okay. The first letter of the

first name of both Davids who have appeared on the white Lotus. So David tried people who have appeared on the white Lotus. There's only two Davids and they their first name starts with the same letter. Okay. The first name of Survivor's former casting director. The first name of Survivor's former casting director. Long time casting director. Plus the only player from Exile Island's Younger Men tribe to return for a future season. OK.

All right. So that's it. That's everything. Kosta and Rob, what is Sarge's real first name? Lee. Lee. What is the first name of the Davids who have appeared on the White Lotus? It's gotta be C. It's a C for Christian and Cebu, Carl. The first name of Survivor's casting director.

Lin. Lin for Lin Spillman. And the only player from exile islands younger men's tribe to return for a future season. It's really pronounced honest. He was called on the show primarily. So who do we have called him in the video that I watched the other day, which I was a new one.

I got called out in Denver for calling Paris Hilton. I got called out in Denver recently calling Paris Hilton. I got called out in Denver recently for having a New York accent and calling Mario Mario, which, which is definitely a thing that that New Yorkers do. But who do we have for the verbal rebus? We got Lisa Linares tidy white is little boy. Lisa Linares is the answer. That is, I will say this was a good one, Jordan. I, yeah, this, this one, I think all of the silver rebuses. This was one of your best. It actually fit the, if every syllable fit the actual name of the person. So that's always a plus. It was fun

getting the white Lotus in there. Yeah. I think, I think this was good. So I, I wonder if the, those Boston, I won't call them losers, but those Boston malcontents are a fan of that one. I don't know. Only one way to find out. OK, all right. Well, Costa, any interesting facts you've stumbled upon recently? I think the same ones are. Double duty because you fact check Australian survivor too. Yes, slightly. Australian survivors Survivor is over now.

I could just focus on US Survivor. But yeah, I do all the survivor coverage. We're doing the AU vs. The World whenever that one comes out. I think the CNA conventional stuff is the most interesting. Potentially, it's also the first season where everyone that like was voted out before the merge didn't actually have a vote that was valid, was either negated or was negated. That might be a first. I didn't fully check that one,

but that's one on my mind. Yeah. And Australian Survivor must be so much work for you because it's what, 22, 24 episodes? They're all long. They're very long. Every time I see a 45 minute episode of Australian Survivor, I sigh of relief that it's not the full hour 15. And Australian Survivor is like 24 people and then there'll be like two or three people that have like 207 confessionals and then there's like 17 people that got like two. Yeah, my person in the series had 21 episodes, had seven confessionals.

Rob, do you imagine having to do 20ish episodes in the season if we lived in Australia? Oh my God. But we do it three times a week. I guess. I mean, that's, that's the, that's the going rate here. We do it every time someone gets voted out. Shannon does like one exit interview podcast. That's probably, they're probably smart. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, Costa, where can people find everything you're

doing? Sure. On Twitter, Blue Sky, Rob's fact checker is always celebrating 11 years, 14 years of doing fact checking on Twitter this month, actually. And then survivor fact checker on Instagram is kind of my main, for the pretty graphics there. Yes. Yes.

That's really blown up. I mean, you're approaching Tory Meehan territory. Yeah. Yes. Yes. It's really blown up. I mean, you're approaching Tori Meehan territory. Yeah. And you're about to be bigger than the podcast. People are like, who's Rob? OK. All right. Yeah. Congratulations. Yeah. You've you've you've really turned this into something. Like what you do. I mean, when I actually listen to RGP 15 years ago this month as well, it was the Boston Robb boot episode and here's where civilians is the first time I ever heard about RGP. There

was like a post on survivor suck saying, Hey, Rob's interviewing Lex Vandenberg about Boston Rob's boot. And I thought that's, that's a great guess. That was a good yet. It was a good yet. And ever since then, April of 2010, I was like, Lex, what do you want to come on the podcast? He's like, yeah, I'll be on April 2nd is good for me. Like, okay, we'll pencil you in. He's like, put it in pen. That's the date. Okay, all right.

And then Jordan, what's coming up for you? Back in New York next week. So we'll be back with Twitch as always. We always got the viewing parties in New York If you're in Denver check out the viewing party in Denver because when you're listening to this it will be the day after The viewing party so I'm sure I had a good time so go out there and support the I think they do they do all you can You guarantee a good time. I'm guarantee. I like it's gonna be people watching Survivor Have you ever had a bar time at one of the viewing parties?

I mean, I've had certain weeks have better times than others. What if the cable goes out? That would be really bad, but that's never happened. We've had some issues once with like, I don't know, it took like a minute or two to get the sound on the TV, but that's rare. Were you crashing out? I was freaking out a little bit.

I was like, we have all these people here and we need to, we have all these people here and we need to, we're all here to watch the show. But it was only like maybe the first, it's like the conversation when they get back from tribal, Oh, do you want to talk about it? Nah, we don't have to talk about it. Or that happened to me one time in Washington, DC. People were not. Oh yes. I heard it. I heard about that. Yes. Not look, you can't, can't always control your surroundings when, when you're in a bar or in a theater, but it's always a good time.

Everyone has a great time. Yeah. All right. Well, Jordan, great job once again. Costa, thanks for being here and everybody check out. I've got a good one here today. Drew Basile is going to be on the podcast. One of my favorites to talk to about Survivor.

Check that out. And of course, patrons, join me on Friday for the patron Q&A coming up 3 p.m Eastern I'll be taking your questions about this week's episode of survivor. Take care everybody have a good one. Bye