RHAP: We Know Survivor - Exit Interview: Sixth Player Voted Out Survivor 48

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Rob Cesternino (@RobCesternino) interviews the latest castaway voted off the Survivor 48 island, followed by This Week In Survivor History with Jordan Kalish (@JordanKalish) where Rob plays against an RHAP patron.

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Mergetory and that person is Charity. And Charity will join me here in just a moment for the exit interview. We'll get into everything with Charity. I wanted to give you the chance to bounce out of here if you had not yet watched the episode. Of course, I love to read your feedback here in the comments and we appreciate all the thumbs up that the RHAP fans get when they watch along with the interview. So hope you enjoy it. Be sure to check out Christian Hubecky on the podcast

later on today. And then my Survivor Know-It-Alls with Stephen Fischbach with a brand new fishy intro. That's all here at watchrhap.com. Enjoy my interview with Charity. Hey Charity, what's going on? Rob Cisternino here and Charity, sad to see you go. It seemed like that you couldn't really get your footing

with this group. What's going on? You know, I have no idea. I think I'm great. No, you know, it's it's interesting to watch the show back because the realities are different. The reality of watching the show and the reality of living the show feel like two different things sometimes. But I went on the show and thought I was going to crush it. I thought I was going to win. And turns out I didn't.

But I had a freaking blast. I had the best time that I've ever had in my whole life. I'm happy to hear you say that, because so many of us saw you in the preseason and felt like, OK, well, watch out for charity. This is a very popular winner pick. A lot of people thought that you were just gonna knock it out of the park, but it just seems like that it really didn't gel with the people

that you were with. Do you think it was just a tribe fit? I don't think it said I didn't gel with them. Because if you see the clips, it is, I mean, there are a lot of clips of like, don't trust Charity, she's playing so hard, blah, blah, blah. But where are all of those clips where I'm doing things that are untrustworthy and where I'm playing really hard?

And so I do think that, you know, a huge part of what kind of created that story is that I went to Camilla and was like, you realize we're on the bottom of this tribe, right? Like, it's you and I. If we if we go to tribal, you or I are getting voted out. And kind of revealing that to Camilla, bad on me, wrong choice, Charity, because if it was the other way

around, the way that Camilla played it was beautiful. Very smart on her part, absolutely great gameplay. Don't hold it against her. But that was kind of the start of like, okay, well, if Charity thinks we're on the bottom, I'm gonna put her below me so I'm not on the bottom. And I think that's kind of what started everything. And then also me just kind of questioning

when Kyle came back, I was like, okay, I've never met Kyle. So I can't determine if he's telling the truth or lying I'm not just gonna say yeah I think he's telling the truth because I don't know him yet And so I'm a type of person where I'm not gonna accuse you of lying But I am gonna go down every avenue so I can think about it in my head and figure out kind of alright Where do I kind of where does where do my opinions lie in this and I was the only person who was just going? Okay. Well, we have Kyle who's like incredibly strong, incredibly athletic, incredibly handsome,

not that that matters, but we have him. And you're telling me he lost to a guy with one arm. And also I've never seen glass used on the beach in Survivor unless it's a timer. So I was just kind of questioning, I wasn't accusing, I just wanted to go if what are all of the possibilities here? And I think that got me into some trouble real quick with Camilla and she played it beautifully. Okay, last night going into that tribal council, what were you expecting to have happen? Who did

you think was voting with you? To be honest, it was so chaotic on that beach. I had no idea who was voting with me. I was hoping all of SIVA would vote with me, but I truthfully, I had no clue. I had zero clue. And before we left for tribal, I had a feeling I was originally gonna leave my shoes to dry. They're very expensive.

They did, you know, they served me well out there and I was going to leave them to dry. And there was just a moment where I just felt the energy and I went, I'm going to bring my shoes with me. And I'm glad I did. Yeah. Did you think about playing you shot in the dark? I blacked out. I'm going to be so real.

Tribal is such a wild experience. And I'm also just like, I'm terrified, anxiety-ridden, because I'm like, I could be the one going home. And also, I'm living this incredible dream that I want to like, be here and be present. And I'm so excited that it was a full blackout moment for me. I did not even think to play my shot in the dark, which I'm like, charity, don't be a ding dong. But you know, it's okay. It worked out the way that it was supposed to. And my gratefulness does not change. I am so grateful whether I would have been first voted out or won the game.

Obviously I would have wanted to win the game. I went on Survivor not to lose, but the gratefulness does not change in me. I was so grateful to be there. Yeah, I get that from you. I know you're a big fan. I know you waited a long time to come out here and play. Now, did you just get vibes that maybe something was off

or did you actually hear your name from people? Were you expecting to get votes? I did not hear my name, but there was right before we were supposed to leave for tribal, I kind of like came up on Kyle, Camilla and someone else who I can't remember. They were all like kind of like came up on Kyle, Camilla, and someone else who I can't remember. They were all like kind of walking

from the water well talking. And I kind of came up like almost to where I could tell like I surprised met them. And when Kyle looked up at me, he looked me in the eyes and I could just see it on his face. And that's when I went and got my shoes. Yeah. Charity, I want to ask you about a few different things.

And I feel like from your perspective, maybe you might feel like, hey, am I being gaslit here? Am I feeling like that people making me feel like I'm crazy when maybe it's you all who are crazy. You watched Star give her idol to Eva. And you're like, hey, well, we know Eva's got a very close ally, now she has an idol. You all are okay with this?

Yeah, I was not psyched on how that turned out. The truth of it is that when I got to the Loggy Beach, Star turned to me immediately privately and was like, I have the advantage. I want to work with you. I think you're trustworthy. So I had the advantage in my bag for four days. I didn't want to open it for her because if we went to tribal council, that's an easy vote of she has an advantage. She didn't tell you all, I've got it. We can keep it for whoever or whatever. And she has no vote. I knew it was an option that she would just freely give it. Yeah, I would have opened it up.

Are you kidding me? Find this keeper as Star says. Yeah, I just, I don't agree with that. I even, even to this moment, it's Star's idol. If you help someone open it and then you guys want to like maybe try to use it together. But the way that I see it, that's Star's idol. Yeah.

She found it, someone helped her open it, but it's hers. Do you feel it's- But I would see it away, so they can give it for her, you know, whatever. Do you feel like it's a rules issue? Do you feel like that star shouldn't be allowed to give her idle to Eva, that she's the one who found it? No, I think that she should be allowed to give it away,

but I also think that there was more that went into that. It wasn't, yeah. It wasn't just immediately given away like that. There's some factors playing there for sure. Do you think that there's other factors that you can talk about? Okay, all right, I respect that. Thank you.

Yeah, okay. Well, how about, I know you came into this game, you said, look, Russell Hance is a great player. I don't know if you said he was the goat you said we need to bring villains back to Survivor but I'm watching this show and I see all these folks talking about hey we need to bring honor back we need to bring integrity back to Survivor. It's giving coach and Brandon season. What's up with that? No, that's great. And I'm all for that as well.

I mean, relatively, I was pretty honest with the people I trusted out there, but also I'm like, it's annoying because I'm like, that's not how, you can't play the whole game like that. And I'm like, David, what are you talking about honor and integrity? You lied to my face the entire game, bud.

Like, what are you talking, it's all up here for you, okay? At least I'm realistic about it. Again, just being myself, I'm being honest and real. Like, that's not honor integrity. Like, okay, you guys can say that, but you have to lie to someone to vote them out, you know? And do you feel like that it was a little hypocritical that for honor, as Jeff pointed out,

hey, okay, said the guy who hasn't been to tribal council yet. Do you feel like the people lied to you who talked about honor and integrity? Yeah, David. I mean, it's okay, though. That is the game. And it's like inside of the game. Yeah, that sucks.

Outside of the game. That's just a game. Yeah. You know, so outside of it, it's like, okay, it stings a little bit, but also you have to have enough sense to go, okay, this isn't real life out here. David's not lying to me in real life. And if he wants to, then kick bricks. You don't need to be in my life. You know what I'm saying? Charity, I know you do fitness coaching and you work with lots of people helping them. Have you been advising people to be drinking more milk?

Absolutely not. 100% no. You know that like 65% of people are lactose intolerant and don't even know it. Now, I don't talk about milk ever again. I just want to mention or point out I am the person who spent the most time with David. I just want to mention or point out, I am the person who spent the most time with David. Yeah. Like, you guys gotta give me a break here with the eye rolls. I heard so much about milk that I never want to hear about it again. Well, listen, we saw your confessionals about David.

You got to then when you watched the show, hear what he was saying about you. Was there anything eye opening about how David was perceiving you? Oh my gosh. Yeah. I mean, I'll be the first to admit, Charity, you look like a ding dong. You had no idea, which I did not. To me, I was super honest with David and I was like, you remind me of my annoying big brothers. And it's kind of the same vibe out here together. Love you, but you're kind of annoying. Which in real life, absolutely adore him. He's a wonderful human. But it was kind of just that thing of like, I don't really necessarily like, love working with this person, but I'm stuck out here with them. I spent the most time with them

and I'd love to sit next to him at the end. And so I was super honest with David. I was like, I want you for a shield. Everybody's going to have eyes on you at the end, you know? And so I was super honest with David. I was like, I want you for a shield. Everybody's gonna have eyes on you at the merge. And look, that gets you there. It gets me there. This is mutually beneficial for both of us, but he did not see it that way. And I wish he would have.

I wanna go back to Star and Eva because we saw in the episode that you were talking about, hey, Eva has the idol. And then Star went back and ratted you out for talking about Eva. But did anybody ever go to Star and tell her that when you first got to the new tribe that it was Eva who was the one who said, hey, Star, I'm giving her to you on a silver platter. That's the name.

I don't know. I will actually I mean, I'm trying to think about that. There's just so much that happened. You mean, like, did any of us tell Star, like, hey, Eva wants you out? Yes. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I didn't have to tell Star that because she already knew it. She was like, I don't like Eva.

We don't want to work together. I want you to help me with this advantage. So Star already knew that, so it wasn't anything that we had to tell her. She knew it. That's the thing about Star, she's so unpredictable, she flips in a second. I thought it was very interesting.

So you ended up landing on the name, Sey. But Sey was probably the only other person who was really very willing to explore, hey, if Eva has an idol, why aren't we going after Eva? Do you think that maybe there was a path to potentially for you and Starr to work together? A hundred percent. And if either of one of us-

So you and Say to work together. A hundred percent, Say and I would have worked together if we would have been smart enough to recognize it. We definitely felt the energy out there of like kind of pitting us two against each other because in all reality, I think Say and I do have two very different approaches, but we do have similarities.

We are both very strong, confident women who do not beat around the bush, just not who we are. And so there was a little bit of like, you could feel us being pitted against each other. And also, you know what, you heard me at Tribal go, there were people who never even approached me today, or even like, gave me the vibe they wanted to talk and say was one of them.

Now, if we would have talked, it would have been over. But we didn't. And Charity, you and Mitch had such a close bond throughout the season. What was it about Mitch that you immediately knew that that was your person? I'm going to cry every time someone asks me this. I miss him. I love Mitch.

Mitch is the salt of the earth. He is someone who is so strong, has overcome so much, yet has so much joy. And I recognize that immediately. And there was just an immediate connection between us and all the humble traits and stuff like that. It's like you guys got to see a second of that. Mitch and I laughed on the Seva beach non-stop, like belly laughter, hardest times I've laughed in my life. And I am lucky enough that yes, I did not win a million dollars. That totally sucks. But I made a lifelong friend out there

and this is gonna sound totally cheesy, worth more than a million dollars. And I love him so much and I'm rooting for him. Yeah. Charity, what else about your adventure do you think it's important for people to know about? You know, I think it's important to know that, or I guess what I would like people to know is that I am not a fake person. Everything I did out there was incredibly genuine to who I am. I deeply care about people.

There's a lot that isn't aired. And I do think, you know, it is a little frustrating to feel so misunderstood by the viewers, so hated by everybody and didn't gel with people. I'm like, but there are no real clips of that. There's a lot of confessionals talking about that, but where are the clips of me doing those things? But that is survivor. If you can plant a seed, you don't even need proof. You just have to plant the seed and people will start watering it. So, you know, all of my reactions,

I know my face gives me away on that. That's a totally different issue. But I was very genuine out there, especially, you know, with Eva calling me fake, that stung because I was so genuine to her before she made any type of announcement that autism was even a factor. Felt incredibly protective over her. She's young. She was having like a full breakdown on that table puzzle and my heart went out to her. I'm a fitness coach. I love women. I work with them and I went into coach mode just like Mary did with you could kind of hear what she was saying too. So yeah, I honestly, I probably need to reel it back of like, I'm a little too real and hits me in trouble. Maybe, maybe. Okay. All right. Well, Charity, very nice to talk to you and hope you're doing well with the whole experience and all the best

outside the show. Okay. Thank you so much. Nice to talk to you too. Thank you. Charity. Bye. Bye. Recording stopped. All right. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you for, you know, not holding back and getting the clarification on what Bye. Bye. Recording stopped. All right. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you for not holding back and getting the clarification on what you're allowed to talk about. Okay. Thank you.

Sorry about that. You're good. We'll clean it up. All right. Thanks, Charity. Thanks, Jennifer. Okay. Bye.

Thanks, Rob. All right. We're back for some this weekend, Survivor history. Back here with the guy who is ready to score it up and give us everything we need to know from the annals of Survivor history. It's Jordan, Kailis. Jordan, how are you? I'm doing great. I was ready to score it up, Rob. That's my job. I'm thinking of how I'm going to zing you about these torpedo bats.

What do you think? I love. If I had some new strategy here today that made the questions like a hundred percent easier for me, are you in favor of that? Well, I'll say two things. The best Yankee hitter, Aaron Judge, is not using the torpedo bats. And second of all, they are legal in Major League Base baseball. They got clearance. Other players on other teams are wearing them. I believe are using them. I mean, I think Lindora went like oh for 11.

The new administration greenlit the torpedo bats. Was that what happened? I think it was the same MLB administration that's been green lighting, making the game quicker, make the game quick again as they say. Alright, well I'm so happy to have here with us today to play this week in Survivor History. Caroline is here. Caroline, how are you? Woo, I'm great. Caroline, tell us a little bit about yourself. Yeah, I live in Boston. See you guys next week.

I was born a week before Survivor premiered and Survivor born new. But the first season I ever watched was Survivor the Amazon. Okay, well, yes, but not in the real time because you would have been three years old. Yes, I did walk in the real time because my parents went to college with Gene. Oh, wow. They got very good. Did they keep in touch with with Jean? I don't think so.

Oh, let's get Jean on the podcast. Yeah. Get her on the old school interview. How would you how would she do on Twitch? Probably not great. I bet she's not like I think I saw her at the Survivor 10 year anniversary party. I think that she was the winner of Surviving the Amazon, according to Gene. Yeah. Okay. All right. And Caroline, we're gonna see you next week. Yes, I will be there. Okay. All right. Well, Caroline,

let's see if Jordan Kalish has what he has up his sleeve, okay, if he's ready to score it up, all right? Yeah, I got my torpedoes ready to score it up. All right. Yeah. I got a, my, my torpedoes ready to go and here they are. We have you're ready to torpedo this game as usual. Yeah. We got Pearl islands. We got Fiji, China, redemption Island, 47 and merge a Tory madness. And by ready to torpedo this game. Do you, you mean knock it out of the park, Rob? As per usual.

Not what I was going to say. All right. But Caroline, you're the guest and you control the board. OK, I'm going to kick it off. Go crazy. Mergetory Madness. All right. Wow. Carolyn, you are a bold player. Before we came on, Caroline, I'm ready to dominate. But not a poster.

The opposite of what Jordan says when he gets on the podcast. What do I say? I just make baseball related points. It's like, hey, hold on. Where's my microphone? That's happened twice, three times maybe in the history of this podcast. You came on talking about these.

You came in talking about the annals of survivor history. That is one that is lost in the annals. Just like I lost my microphone. Tell me about Mergetory Madness. Mergetory Madness. Which two Mergetory Boots played their shot in the dark unsuccessfully at the Mergetory madness. It was like under my table. Mergetory madness. Which two Mergetory Boots played their shot in the dark unsuccessfully at the Mergetory Tribal in which they were eliminated?

So it's two people that you have to get. Okay. All right, let me think this through. There's two people you said? It's two. And you need to get them both. Okay. I have one of them for sure.

Okay. Okay, I'm gonna go with Sydney, survivor 41, and Josh, 44. I'm 41. And, Josh, 44. Sydney and Josh is incorrect. So Rob, you get to steal a point. You do not get the multiple choice. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go with Sydney and Mariah.

Sydney and Mariah Gainer is correct. So Rob, you do start with the one point on the steal. Yeah, unfortunately Josh did pretend that he had an idol. He did not, but his idol was no longer valid anymore. So- Risky play to go right into Jordan's fun house, Mergetory Damage. I had to do it this week with the Mergetory boot, joining the long line of unfortunate Mergetory Danness. I had to do it this week with the Mergetory boot joining the long line of unfortunate

Mergetory boots. I consider them people who made the merge. Ryan, Sydney, congratulations. You made the merge. All right, Rob, you get to choose. I'm going to go with 47. All right, 40 several who found an individual challenge reward, allowing this player to skip the team round

of the challenge and automatically advance to the individual immunity portion and partake in the reward? That was Genevieve. It was Genevieve. Rob, you get two points and you start off strong. AKA the survivor that I beat their husband at Twitch only five weeks ago.

Three to zero, AKA the same score that the Yankees were up after three pitches against the Brewers on Saturday. I was at the game. Great game. Wow. Torpedo bats and everything. Yeah. Okay. Mock up torpedo bats yet? Not yet. But you know, there's going to be like a torpedo bat day. I'm sure there will be. And I will be at it. How long will it take for the other teams to get the torpedo bat? They're already using them. The Phillies are using them. The Braves just ordered a bunch of them. It's happening. Yeah, they're all going to be used by this week.

You still got to hit the ball, by the way. OK, Caroline, you have to get back into this game. You still have a pretty good shot here, but it is it is a tough hole that you've put yourself in. It's three zero, Rob. Where is the next season that you're taking us? All right. That was poor strategy for me. I know Rob always knocks off the new era ones first, and I got excited by the madness,

and I should've just gone for 47. Caroline, don't beat yourself up. But I'm gonna think this through. What did you say we got, 13, 14, 15? It's Pearl Islands, Fiji, China, Redemption Islands. And I just wanna say for other people who are playing along in future, Twitch guests, sometimes I like to take like the middle seasons first also

Okay, I'll go with China Alright, we're going to China Who walked up on Todd and Amanda as they were retrieving the idol from the Chinese pie fang? Causing the duo to reluctantly tell him about their newfound advantage? John Robert. It was not John Robert. Can you repeat the question? Yeah.

Who walked up on Todd and Amanda as they were retrieving the idol from the Chinese Pai Feng causing the duo to reluctantly tell him about their newfound advantage? Okay. Tell him, I'm gonna say, was it Frosty? It was Frosty. Frosty walked up, he didn't know what they were doing. He thought they were just having fun and like messing with the art that was at camp.

And it turned out that he knocked down the idol and they had to tell him. They did not wanna tell Frosty. So Rob, you get the point there. It is four zero Caroline. You are in a bit of a hole here because it is Rob's question. You kind of need Rob to get this wrong. Okay. Okay. Not looking great for you. So I'm going to go with, um, this is a tricky episode six in survivor history. I'm gonna go with give me Pearl Islands All right, who received two votes at the tribal council in which Trish Dunn was voted out? Who received two votes?

Hmm. I'm going to say is it possible I'm gonna I'm gonna vote I'm gonna guess I'm gonna guess and I'm not gonna take multiple choice I'm gonna say it was Rupert Rupert who I believe was referenced on the White Lotus this week I think I think that my guess is that it was a Rupert reference based on how big of a fan Mike's White is. Yeah. Rupert is the correct answer. So Rob, you get two points. Who voted for me? Yes. That is why this is a notable vote. Yeah. But Trish Dunn voted out. Caroline, your chances of winning might be Trish Dunn right now. But you have a six

zero lead. Caroline, you do get the next question. You can't win. Sure. But you still play. So we have Fiji and we have Redemption Island. Yeah. And Caroline, this is a very special moment for me because I don't think I've ever had a 6-0 lead in Twitch before. All right. Let's not rub it in. I'm just saying that it's special. I'm really happy for you.

Thank you, Caroline. Okay, I'll go Redemption Islands. All right, Redemption Islands. Who received their Bible luxury item on Redemption Islands, allowing them to bond with Matt Elrod, much to the chagrin of the spectating Andrea Belki? That would be Krista. Krista Klump.

Caroline, you're on the board. Six to two, very good job. Krista Klump, yeah, she got her Bible. Matt loved that she had the Bible. Andrea did not love that she saw them bonding about that. And then she gives Matt the Bible on the way out. So good job, Caroline. You got one there, so you're on the board.

You can say that you are someone who has received Twitch points. That's your new street cred. Rob, the last question. We're going to Fiji. All right, Fiji. Okay. Who was the first player voted out after the Tribe Swap and was replaced on the new Ravu Tribe by Lisi who was exiled during the schoolyard pick? Okay. One more time, a little slower. Who was the first player voted out after the tribe swap and was replaced on the

new Ravu tribe by Lisi, who was exiled during the schoolyard pick. I believe it was Anthony. Anthony. I've, I picked another question where you get to yell fun things like who voted for me. So Rob, your final score is eight to two. Rob gets the win. Caroline, I thought that you did a good job, even though you did get yourself into a six zero hole hole.

I tell the whole day I'm saying good, good job. I teach elementary school. Like I have to say good job all the time. So good job. You did it. You went head first into the Kalish fun house. That was a mistake for future players. And then, you know, I just think, and then the second question you answered so fast, I feel like, I got excited. You got to think it through from like, you know, Jordan's very tricky. I'm a tricky boy. Yes. Okay. But Caroline, there is some consolation for you here today.

Okay. If I, if I may, I to be so bold, I, I stand twist. I love to wish I listened to it every week. I don't stand the verbal rebate. Oh, cancel it. It's done. We don't have to do it this week. Bring on the next guest. Can I give my win to Caroline? No, it's not transferable. An honorary, what do you have against the verbal rebate? What don't you like about it? My issue, I like to play along and I just think like it goes too quick and you miss one and then you're all jumbled up and you got half of the game and it's like, you know, sometimes it can just be a little quick.

I guess if you're driving and you're listening while you drive, which is how fast you listen in the podcast. Regular speed. Regular speed. Okay. Interesting. I'm like a 1.5 while driving person. So if I were listening to the verbal read this, I might miss some of the two, but I think we're still going to do it. Even though we have the two biggest verbal reader.

Protest it, but Jordan says, Nevertheless. I made it. Nevertheless, I will persist. Okay. Oh, you'll like this clue though. This Long Island native now hosts a survivor podcast, including segments such as this week in survivor history

and various others. Okay. It's first name. The first name, the first name. Plus Russell described Boston Rob's hat as a little blank hat. Plus the first letter of the first player to get voted out of 42, but the second player out overall. So the first player voted out, but the player out. Plus the first letter of the first name of the player.

Plus Pat's ached blank was thankfully all right. Okay. Plus this exile Island player had an aversion to beans, but loved giving sage wisdom in his final words. Okay. Who we got? We got a native. Who does the podcast? Rob. It is Rob. Okay. Uh, Russell described Boston Rob's hat as a little blank hat, a little B, little B Okay. Uh, Russell described Boston. Rob's hat is a little blank hat, a little B little B hat. Uh, the first letter of the first player to get voted out of 42 Z Z for Zach Wharton burger, Pat's eight, eight blank was thankfully all right.

Is that back like that? Yeah, that's more of a one-off trivia clue, but that's fine. Plus this exile Island player had an aversion to beans, but loved giving sage wisdom in the spinal words. You lost me on that one. Rob, you know this one. Nick, it was Nick who we have. This is Caroline. You have not seen this player. Caroline has not seen this person play a survivor cause it's from Thailand. That's my missing season. Okay. Oh. That's my missing season. Okay. Yep.

Yeah. Do you want to sound it out? No, the spelling's a little funny. Well, there's a reason for that. Yeah. It's Rob Zabaknik. Rob Zabaknik. Robby Two B's.

Two B's guys. I couldn't do one B for Rob Zabaknik. Normally I don't care about spelling on the Verbal Rebus, but when it's Rob Zabaknik, I was like, I have to get the second B in there somehow. Do you like the clue about the survivor podcast, including segments such as this week in survivor history and various others, is that how people normally describe this podcast? Yes.

So often. Okay. All right. Well, Caroline, we'll see you in Boston next week. Anything you want to tell people to check out? Um, yeah, I guess, uh, you can follow me on Instagram, Caroline Sealy. I recently did a Survivor Live game that is airing right now. It's called Survivor Millennium Park.

Do you want to check it out? Where's Millennium Park in Boston? Is that the DC one? Oh, it's Boston? No, it's in Boston. It's right outside Boston. Okay. I've heard of this game.

I've definitely heard of this game. OK, all right. You know, relation to Tiffany Sealy, right? That's what I was thinking. No. Hmm. We sometimes get relatives of these new era players. Yeah. All right. And Jordan, what's coming up for you? We got we got to wish next week. Follow me at Jordan Kalish on X on blue sky, wherever you want to. You want to follow me

And Instagram if you want we got all the things and I'll see you next week You posting a lot on Instagram? rarely I haven't posted in a while I took all these pictures this summer when I was on a trip and I still have posted like maybe one Twelve yeah, I need to post the rest. Yeah Well, you went on like a guys trip, right? It was, yeah, it was a guy's trip with like various guys. Well, one of their, their mainly guys, but they're, uh, one of them, uh, had their, their, uh,

wife and baby come with us, which was, which is fine. A guy's trip. And then one guy brought a wife and a baby. It was, I mean, that part of it wasn't a guy's trip. That was more of like, they're like, they're like close family friends. So that was, uh, that was a lot of fun. Okay. All right. Maybe the great enjoy the trip. She had a good time. I mean, she spent a lot of time with the baby, but so did my friends. So they kind of, they kind of traded off. How many other guys with this family? It was me, one friend, my other friend, and then his wife and the baby. So it was three guys, a woman, and a baby.

Three guys, a woman, and a baby. So there was the family plus you and one other person. Yes. Okay. I planned the trip. I invited the wife and the baby. They weren't gonna come and I said, I should bring the wife and the baby. I think that was true Kalish fashion

of explaining that in the most complicated way. Of a guy, a guy, a guy, and then a baby. You know what? I think on White Lotus season four, there should be a three friends, three guy friends who bring along one of their wives and a baby. I think that would be perfect for the White Lotus. I don't even like the verbal rebus. It's too confusing.

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