RHAP: We Know Survivor - Guessing the Survivor 50 Encore Episodes

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

Guessing the Survivor 50 Encore Episodes Today, Mike Bloom and Shannon Guss take a shot at guessing which encore episodes will be airing prior to the Survivor 50 premiere. Never miss a minute of RHAP���s extensive Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

Hi, everybody. Mike Bloom back with a rather unique podcast as we are continuing on the road to survive. February 25th can't come soon enough, but to wet our appetite, perhaps. We are given a veritable buffet of appetizers in the two weeks leading up to the premiere of Survivor 50.

For the first time ever, out and out Survivor reruns, folks. We're going to get into exactly what that means and what episodes could and should be shown on our screens in the lead-up to Survivor 50. But of course, this is a daunting yet probably confusing concept that I could think of no better person to join me on this voyage than my best friend who I dragged through all sorts of weird

wild podcast ideas. Shannon Gus, this feels no different. True. And also, this is my 50, right? Because like 50 will be a little murky for me given that I'm having a child right around when 50 starts. So this rerun exercise,

which I don't even think is airing in Australia, but this is really when you think about it, this is the good stuff, right? This is the stuff we're all going to remember about season 50. So I would imagine in Australia, don't they only show half the episodes? What? Why? Is it an exchange rate?

I only have a win. Going back to that, the whole trope. Oh my God, I've repressed it. I mean, you have, you have channels where we like play to Survivor all the time. You said it's the first time we have Survivor reruns. No, so, well, here's the thing. So, yeah, technically speaking, we do have things like Pluto TV, which have like a technical channel that streams Survivor. You can obviously stream Survivor at any time you want to on Paramount Plus.

But what's so interesting is that, like, on CBS proper, there is, from my recollection one time that they have actually reran Survivor episodes and that was the very first season. I remember it very well and clear because I had missed the first five episodes of Borneo. I hopped in an episode six and that was

the only way I was able to watch those first five episodes was it obviously aired in the summer of 2000 and then they re-aired it in the fall because at that time there was no way to watch it again essentially, especially if you hadn't taped it at the time. So that was really the only time,

CBS has made a concerted effort to show old Survivor episodes in its entirety. And a quarter of a century later, they reheated their own nachos and are doing it again. My God, we're old. See, kids, there was no undermined. We had to wait for the television to teach us when the shows were on. But here in Australia, 10 plays playing Survivor constantly. They have channels where they play shows constantly. I also have Top Model, and I'm trying desperately hard to never tell my parents that

because I deleted the two episodes of Top Model that I was on for my parents' TV. and they were like, that's gone forever now. And I was like, yep. Yep. So, yeah, but they're doing so. Yeah, it's just gone. We can't, no one can ever find it. So, yeah, I mean, they should be doing a Survivor channel all the time.

It's so much content. Yeah, I mean, if you go to Pluto TV on Paramount Plus, you can see it there as well. But this is, you know, they're officially rolling it out from a broadcast perspective. So for the un-initiated, let's talk a little bit about what this is. So in the lead-up to 50s slash, you know, fill in some nice, holes in the schedule because due to the Winter Olympics, CBS is not necessarily want to do a lot of counter-programming. Gone are the days of Celebrity Big Brother as sort of a fill in there. Instead, in the two weeks leading up to the premiere on

February 25th, CBS is going to be airing encore episodes. Those are 10 episodes the show has selected that apparently are meant to sort of highlight some of or maybe all at some point probably not considering numbers but at least a good amount of the 24 iconic pastaways that will make up the cast of Survivor 50 let me throw up the schedule right here right now

so people can set their DVRs or their watches or their calendars accordingly because it is a little confusing as well I have a lot of varying time slots here Shannon so again we are running for two weeks is the weekdays of February 9th to the 13th and the weekdays of February 16th to the 20th. Week of February 9th, we've got Monday and Tuesday, 8 to 9, regular, regular,

one-hour episodes. Wednesday and Thursday, February 11th, February 12th, 2-hour episodes airing from 8 to 10 instead of 8 to 9. No, it's interesting because they advertise this as, oh, it's 10 episodes, but the 2-hour time slot's really interesting to me because it's possible they decide to put two one-hour episodes back to back or could they like show kind of a finale right because like the finale always aired a little over two hours back in the day before it went into the reunion well well i think they i think i would kind of think two episodes back to back like that's that

meat yeah but that's not the exercise we're doing here yes yeah but yeah it's a it's a it's a little confusing again the whole reason why we're doing this as well this all this guesswork is because we don't know what episodes are being scheduled yet so there's a chance it might be a two hour episode or it might be two one hour episodes, which then virgin the amount to 12. Then we have Friday finishing off in more of a regular time slot, 8 to 9. Next week, Monday and Tuesday, the 16th and the 17th will also be 8 to 9. And then rounding out the last three episodes of this exercise, the Wednesday, the 18th, Thursday, the 19th, Friday the 20th will all be 90-minute episodes, 8 to 9.30.

We do a little bit of guesswork sheeted again as to like, what is this two-hour time? I mean, I mean, this feels like a bit of a smoking gun, I'd say, in terms of what seasons they might be picking these last three episodes from. Yes, okay. So they're going to go in some sort of chronological order. It's going to be an interesting exercise. If you're like, if you're someone who's new to Survivor, like there are some people who I guess it's like,

oh, I love this episode, this is on and then I'll watch it. But some people, they were like, we want you to discover these players in these episodes, obviously. You're just going to be so confused. You're going to be what a strange season of Survivor that was. I mean, it's interesting because, Because, yeah, I mean, Jeff has said in his promotional materials for Survivor 50, including an interview I did with him, that, like, part of the reason maybe some of these celebrity cameos have infested 50 is because he wanted this season to also be for all Survivor fans, including those who don't know their Survivor fans yet. So, like, this might be a way to give them sort of a crash course in what they need to know about who they need to know.

For the rest of us, it's going to be like where Desmond Hume from Lost skipping through random blips of time. you know, on a record, essentially. I think it's interesting because it's like, what does the show value? Like, that is the most interesting part of it. Hopefully, they're not valuing the people in the season who do well. Hopefully, this isn't like an advanced spoiler of like the people we need to care about. And it was picked out before they played the game. However, yeah, I think it's interesting because there's a few things where it's like,

I would do this or what would they do? So at least we can always try and get into the heads of production, which is always so difficult to do. So here's the point of this entire podcast. It's not just to lay out a broadcast schedule for you, even though, you know, that's really testing the limits of saying you all can read the phone book and we would listen. What we are going to attempt to do is we are going to go through each of the 24 cast members of Survivor 50.

And we are going to brainstorm the one episode we think best represents them. This could be a big move they made. This could be a big personal or emotional moment about them. them. This could be their boot episode for all we know. But we're going to try to pick the best episode for each one of those players. And then from there, we're going to try our best to do like CBS Jenga and try to figure out what would be those 10 episodes slash maybe 12 episodes that could fit into those slots. So somehow, Shannon, we are putting ourselves in the unenviable positions of both Survivor production and CBS executives. Yes, it's a game. What do we

win if we get like seven out of ten correctly. That's a great question. This is a cooperative exercise. So I think we'd have to ask. We could verse each other, but I don't want to. No, I think we could ask an outside source what the prize should be. Maybe, maybe we'll be something to do with your impending bundle of joy. Maybe we'll get you a nice, beautiful survivor gift. Oh, monetary gift. I was thinking if someone could just tweet me and be like, good job on that. And I'd love that. Okay. It's a great pride. No, well, listen. No, I know, but no. You're negotiating.

Sure. Not on front of the table. Much like what might be an episode in these episodes in terms of, and I need some lessons. I'm going to have to re-watch it. But that was a terrible negotiation. I will definitely take the gift you promised me. No promise. Did the four-finger handshake, the quote Jeff Kent.

All right. Well, let us move forward here and see if we can count on our fingers what episodes will be attributed to these Survivor 50 cast members. And if you're looking at this and you're one of the first, wondering why the hell are you doing this? It's January. Okay, it's the cold winter months. We're trying to feed the kindling of the, you know, the long winter off season before Survivor 50 starts.

And I got the request for actually this a couple of times. You know, it's a good podcast when you have to justify it on the podcast. Aren't those best? Aren't those the best? Just shows the amount of confidence I have in this premise even before the jump. But let us jump, shall we know. We're going to go in chronological order here. We're going to go from the earliest person that's been introduced to us via Survivor to the most recent.

And so we go back to the very first season when Survivor was on the air not once but twice in the year 2000. And one of the stars of that season, as well as another one a few years from then, was Jenna Lewis. So, Shannon, as you were racking your brain between her two runs on Survivor, Borneo and All-Stars, what do you think is the most like quintessential Jenna Lewis episode yeah I apologize in advance I'm not going to know these episode names

except for the one that I know I'm going to go real friends with this but I feel like I feel like All Stars is more memorable for Jenna Lewis however I still feel like her most memorable moment is the loved one's videos of Borneo and I also feel like they have to do a Borneo episode

because they're trying they as much as it's about showing the players, like the reason they even have someone from Borneo, casting notwithstanding, and like the great casting of Jenna Lewis, but like, they want to show the spectrum up to 50. So we're definitely going to have something from 49, which will be ironic, because we just saw it. And I think we're definitely going to have something from Borneo. So I would say the one with her loved one's video. That was the one that I had as well. That was episode 8, thy name is duplicity. Interestingly enough, she'll get booted in the next episode of the infamous J. Per Jenna boot. But this is, as you mentioned, the big moment, this is the first

individual reward challenge and survivor ever, the first quote unquote loved ones visit ever where everyone is given videos from home to watch except for Jenna. It did not get to the mailman in time. Shame on you, Dan Foley. And this is arguably, as you mentioned, despite the fact she makes a much deeper,

more impactful run in All Stars. This is still probably the thing she is most known for. It is interesting because even the two episodes leading up to that, episode six is the one where like, you know, she helps kind of turn the, the whole tribe onto Joel with the comments about the women. The merge is where she's like set up with Sean in this weird podunk love island dates to decide the merge tribe.

But I do feel like, specifically if they're picking an episode to highlight Jenna Lewis, it has to be this one. Well, the merge episode is the episode that would, I think, show like the trajectory of Survivor with Gretchen's boot. That would be a better, more iconic episode for the series. but for Jenna, I agree I would do the lack of video

although is that the one with the really weird that's like Greg's weird video I'm even show that on TV anymore Oh listen, yes, it's fine In a post-game of Thrones world It all's fine It's all under the table at this point Standards and practices have relaxed

I don't know that that's true Maybe that's how we can fit whole finale It's like they start cutting It's not cutting the beginning Well, because I remember actually when these shows started moving over to streaming, there were some complaints that like when people would sing copyrighted songs, there was a period of time, for instance, when our loving podfather Rob Sesternino,

his Casey Kasem tribute basically got cut in an edit because of copyright infringement. So yeah, maybe if they felt like for whatever reason, like this is the 2026 TV edit, they might be able to remove a lot of the stuff around Greg and his sister. Do you have anything from All Stars that you would, that would compete with that? Really the only thing I would do from All-Stars would be the premiere, which wouldn't make much sense considering that there's only two cast members on 50 that were from All-Stars. And, you know, I tended to really ignore Premier's and finale because of the weird timeliness

of how those episodes run. Like, I don't know how they could get fit into those slots. But I would say that that was probably her best All-Stars episode in terms of She was coming in, you know, swinging. That was, this was the villainous role, quote, unquote. She was meant to play when she was cast on Bordia in the first place. She espouses, you know, the big attitude that is going to drive, I think, some of the many negatives that come with All-Stars,

which is, hey, we got to get rid of winners first. We got to get rid of the big players first. So she is one of the most vocal people, I would say, in that premiere. So if I had to pick an All-Stars episode, it would probably be one. Well, we can't do the premiere. Yeah. Block it in. Block it in as well because it's Borneo.

so it's going to be on. All right, well, let's only jump one season later here and go to the one the only Colby Donaldson. Now, Colby has three seasons to choose from here. We have, of course, is OG, the Australian Outback. We have the aforementioned All-Stars. We also have Heroes versus Villains. And I mean no offense to Colby and Heroes v. Villains.

I don't think he would want an episode from Heroes versus Villains to be shown to remember the last time Colby was on our screens. and All-Stars, I think he was a fun character always is, but I don't think that necessarily represents him to the fullest extent. And so I do have to turn to the Outback there, which makes sense. He is obviously one of the biggest characters of the season, goes on to win second place.

But the episode I'm going to is called Honeymoon or not, and this is the Jerry Boot episode. Now this is weird Because I don't know if they want to drudge up a lot of like Oh wait let's remind ourselves that Jerry isn't on 50 But Colby is I think one of the most like vocal displeasures expressed across the fandom But for those who don't remember

This is the episode where in the reward challenge They are supposed to be in pairs This sees a long storyline of Jerry having this crush on Colby And it being very one-sided She wants to pick him He says no they draw straws they still end up together. They go on a date to the Great Barrier Reef

where Colby commits a couple of felonies unintentionally. And then this is also where he turns his back on Jerry as well, a storyline that will run through the number of seasons that they'll play on together. But this was a big deal in Survivor at the time. It was not going to be a straight peggonging like we experienced in the last season. So I feel like as inextricably tied as Colby is to Jerry in this episode,

this does feel like the best representation of him. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think actually the best representation would be the finale of him choosing Tina because I think that is, it really defined. I do not want to show people, especially new fans, the Australian Outback finale. One of the worst finalities in Survivor history. And I don't think, I mean, was it actually five hours or does it just feel that way? But I do think that moment is what defines Colby, like the hero he became, but he also lost for it.

It's something we often talk about in like the spectrum of survivor history of people who've done a similar thing. with all of the context of what mattered to the Australian Outback, it was very different. I think they definitely want to show something from the Australian Outback. They're hoping they're like, hey, have you not watched Survivor in like 24 years? Do you remember you watched the Australian Outback? Tens of millions of people did. Do you want to watch those?

I agree. I think your moment's the best if it's not the moment of him choosing to go with Tina to the end. Did you think of anything from like All Stars or Heroes versus Villains, especially that they might want to showcase? I mean, not like in a favorable line. like I would love when they were him fighting with Jeff about not eating the chocolate it was it was a chocolate yeah

yes it was uh yeah that's a great moment I mean they could and it's a premiere but they could have like coach frog marching Colby and kind of kill two birds with one stone that's sure they could do the premiere of heroes versus villains which was two hours you could fit into that weird enigmatic slide and that is to be fair like the survivor movie has Stephanie dislocating her shoulder too Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff there, not for Colby.

It would be so unfair. How much would you be so annoyed if you were Colby to be like, that's their example of me? But I think they'll want to go back to Australia. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. When New Year's comes around, there's a lot of pressure to do the whole new year, new you thing. But sometimes you don't need a new you.

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So she has Palau, she has Guatemala. She has Heroes versus Villains. This is another case where I think, like our other two people, Palau is the season she is usually most remembered for. Is that what you were turning to for your choice of episode, Shannon? 100%. They act like that she wasn't even on Guatemala. They act like that was like some other evil team.

Hero, absolute hero. The only question about Palau is do they want to show her making the fire against Wobijon or coming back to Oolong alone? Like for me, she's going to fire. Yeah. To me, like the iconic moment is her being at Oolong alone. But I feel like that's just right at the beginning of the episode, right?

I mean, it does think of a good amount of the episode. That was my choice, which was, I think it's called I Will Not Give Up, which is the merge episode, or sort of the absorption episode of Survivor Palau where, yeah, it features. And, you know, maybe this leads a little bit one way or the other for me because this was a moment that made my top 25 moments of Survivor countdown that we did last summer of the sequence of her

coming back to Oolong alone, first time this has ever happened. And we just get sequences and scenes of like her trying to live alone on a beach that was initially meant for 10 people. And I agree that like, then things get a little more muddied once she gets absorbed to Coror.

She does survive the vote, so it's not like we're necessarily bidding her ado as well. I was definitely between those two as well because, yeah, Neanderthal man does showcase Stephanie in a more dominant light because she does beat Bobby John in firemaking. But like, it feels like leaving money on the table to not show people this big moment when she became one of the most popular contestants in the show's history. I think most casuals remember her being alone in Oolong. I think that's probably the right call. All right. well may not be such an easy call for Shannon one of your most beloved

contestants I would say in reality TV history not even Survivor history what are they going to pick for Surrey oh this is easy you think so this is the only episode title I actually know all right what is it

if it smells like a rat give a cheese I mean they will take any example any opportunity to show Eric giving up the necklace I think they could do the three to one from Panama so that was my that was was my, like, I hope choice. I guess my head versus my gut. Because my head, yeah, is, I think it's called Perilous Scramble, which is the Courtney 321 boot from Survivor Panama. Yeah, and I mean, I think that means more to us as like analysts than the show. Three is the architect of Eric

giving up immunity. It's their favorite moment. They showed all the time. It is probably, to me, it is the best episode in Survivor History. It's probably my favorite TV episode. So they have to show it. I think that I'm locking that one in. Yeah, I think that makes sense. Again, it doesn't, I would say best represent Surrey. Like, I don't think people are remembering it like, what a great Surrey episode. Why? I think it's more so like, what a great poverty episode? No, no. What do you mean? He came up with a move. But there's so many people that could talk who said if it smells like a rat, give it cheese. Surrey did, but I feel like their whole build of this being a heist movie essentially where everyone had their different role to play. It felt

like it was more of a group effort to me, but I think it'd be bringing up a very salient point. There is no way they are ever giving up any opportunity to watch this poor man get pants on national television to leave his little runner shorts behind over and over and over again. And again, if we are imagining this is sort of a two birds, one stone approach of like, oh, maybe this will get, you know, non-fans into what survivor is. this has to be something that they would want to show them early on. Yeah, it's convenient because it actually is

like the best episode ever. Also, I'm excited for you to re-watch it when it's on TV inevitably, so you can remember who was doing the things. Yes, they all had their part to play, but that was the reason, yeah, and also it's got like her iconic confessional, like you can always always eat in with this,

like, I mean, the Black Widow is a huge, the Black Widow Brigade is a huge part of Sarre's experience on the show. You know, they're all doing that. And I feel like their roles in it are all important. And Saria is often the mastermind is like a huge part of what she's represented to Survivor. And I also think like they care more to show Micronesia than Panama.

Yeah, I would definitely agree with that. Concerning that Micronesia is a much more celebrated season, I think that if they find an opportunity to sort of have these two needs meet and find an episode that is iconic on its own and also highlights a 50 cast member, they're definitely going to take that shot. My thing is we have four and I feel like all of these four are in the 10 because I feel like they want Borneo, they want Australia, they want Stephanie alone and they would

want this episode. That's why I think they might do, or maybe they'll do like a one, two, one hour episodes and then one like chunk of one two hour episode. I'm not entirely sure. If they do the Heroes vs. Villains Premier then, I mean, it's a re-doing a lot on the premiere of Heroes versus Villains. Like they are knocking out a lot of words. Yeah, and they've got

like a couple of things from her I'm sure, but nothing like major. Not enough. Well, the first one seemed to be pretty easy slam dunks. This is where the maneuvers get a little more complicated. Because Ozzy, Ozzie has been on four seasons of Survivor in very different ways, in very different roles, in very different narratives, and very different performance styles. We, of course, have Cook Islands.

We have Micronesia, which Ozzy is not a part of, but I think his blinds, so I could certainly be one of these episodes. We have South Pacific, where she makes an incredibly deep run in, and I mean, it's not going to be game changers for many reasons. A, I do not think they want to show game changers

to anyone on the face of the earth, again, unless it exists in a catalog. And also, Ozzy is, you know, as purple as he can be in that season. So I am going to go a little bit off the beaten path here

and not go with something from a player's original season. I am going to go with an episode called Trojan Horse from Survivor South Pacific. This is, this is the, yeah, this is the episode, I can imagine. Exactly. This is the episode where Ozzy has an epiphany. His tribe has like lost the seventh challenge. They're going to be down in numbers at the merge.

And he comes up with this brilliant brain blast 40 chest idea. Hey, if you vote me out purposely sending me to Redemption Island, then I will defeat Christine Shields, Murkowski, the Grim Reaper, come back into the game and then we'll even up the numbers again. It was tough. I was the time between that and the next episode. This is a little Stephanie S where it's like, okay, where maybe when he comes back, but he does end up with a lot of egg in his face when Cochran flips by the end of that episode. So I feel like Trojan Horse is all Ozzy. And so there's a chance they might want to show Cook Islands there because Cook Islands, again, a more well-regarded season than South

Pacific, but I feel like that South Pacific episode better represents who Ozzy is. They could do his Micronesia Boot, and that would be a good Surrey episode too. Not a great Aussie episode, but an iconic episode. But then I, just because I feel like the Eric Blindside is such a slam dunk that I could see, I don't think, this is, I'm not, I think not going to make it. Like, I don't think they care enough to show South Pacific, but I do think that that is the best Aussie episode. Like, what's the one moment from Cook Islands?

Like for me, it's kind of more like the whole body of work. I guess you could do like the mutiny episode, but I feel like even in that episode, Ozzie, Ozzie is not like, he's highlighted in the challenges, which I suppose is maybe, you know, one of the reasons why people are coming back to 50, but like it's not as much of a spotlight for Ozzy as him saying, I will purposely eliminate myself from the game

so I can then return to the game the next day. That is true, and it like highlights a twist. I would say that one, but I don't think it'll be top 10. And also, that's the infamous Jack and Jill episode as well. Oh, my, no. To me and see Coach yucking it up about, uh, about an Adam Sandler movie. It is not. That would be so bizarre.

Imagine watching that in 2025 and you've also never seen Survivor. You're like, what is happening? But the thing is that Adam Sandler's had such a career renaissance, arguably, in the past like five years, the people might look more favorably upon that scene now. They won't. No, that's absurd. Like, what? As Adam Sandler had a career writer?

Like, I think he was always been. I've got gems. I guess. What I mean you guess? Yeah, the people are going to say he was going to get nominated for an Oscar for Uncut Gems.

But he's always been a big deal. This is not the Adam Sandler cast. Maybe that will be another thing we do with the off season until February 20th. January. Exactly. It's only January. Well,

we mentioned coach. We go from one of the more questionable choices to, honestly, I would say maybe the biggest slam dunks of slam dunks. And this is another one that I think, Shannon, we are running a bit out of runway. here even though we're like we're the way through the cast but like how can they not both

pick and air the martyr approach yeah 100% the one where coach goes to exile we were doing like we were kind of doing this version of it when it was you know the year long January that we had in 2020 and 2020 and 2021 over COVID it was a very long off season and rob and i spoke about that we did it i think a wand off for the minor approach one of the most iconic episodes of all time oh yeah wand up through time yes yeah the the trailer um starts with coach I think they want to show off coach they could have him in like

a Heroes versus villains premiere but this is like a character spotlight unlike anything they've done probably before or after this is in the in the 10 we have no runway unlike the runway in the trailer

well though the thing is that as we'll get into it later now we're going to start getting into a lot of cross-pollination when we have two three people from the same season coming on so like they might be able to you know again

take care of a lot at once here. Thank God they have five from the last two seasons. Exactly. You know, that's the reason why they did. They had this in mind. And so they said, let's make sure we save as much airtime as possible. Thank God for that.

Okay. Lock in the moderate approach 100%. Locked the moderate approach 100%. Well, we're definitely getting to that seven because these are all so obvious. Well, now let's jump forward 14 seasons and let's go to Aubrey Brocko. So I imagine, once again, we're not picking anything from game changers. especially given Aubrey's very quiet edit there. We are not picking anything I imagine from Survivor Edge of Extinction

because of Aubrey's not so great run there. So we turn to Survivor Co-Rong. Yeah. The one that I have personally is an episode called I'm not here to make good friends, and this is more well-known as the Scott Pollard boot episode. This is arguably, you know, perhaps to spoil, a project that I have upcoming.

I would say one of Aubrey's most iconic moves, of not her most iconic move, where she is able to convince Ty to defect from his bro alliance, his bro idol alliance to not only vote with her, but also get him to deny Scott Pollard the other half of the idol that would save him in the game. This is really where, like, Aubrey, you know, she took out Debbie in the last episode.

She certainly had been making moves, but I feel like this was one of the most concrete times, like she and she alone kind of dictated the way that things went, and it was an incredibly impressive move and an incredibly impressive episode. Yeah, lock it in. I don't know if it'll be in the 10, but I kind of think it should be.

It's one of my favorite episodes. One of my favorite blind sides. It was so incredibly well done. It's the kind of thing that you can actually see that like social manipulation actually tangibly in the vote. Was this one where she spits as well? I believe so. Yeah, this is the one where they have to hold the discs.

Yeah, she tries. And she tries to spend, She loses to Kyle Jason, but she wins the war. Exactly. It's so good. It's such a great, like, story package in the one episode. I don't think it'll be in the 10 because we have no space. But, I mean, maybe if it is, maybe it points to how Aubrey does in the season. I'm going to really try not to read into these things.

But one of my favorite episodes definitely was on the same page there. Shannon, I had a very tough time with Chrissy Hoffback. Now, maybe this is a case where it did a lot of that jury. Yeah, exactly. I finally felt myself as both a healer, hero, and hustler all combined into one person. We could throw this a bone and say it's the finale of Triple H, considering that this is when she ties the record, she makes it to the end. Because otherwise, the episode I had picked, I'll let you go first,

but it's a little weak sauce by comparison. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough because I kind of feel like the idle passing stuff, and the premiere is good the fire stuff in the finale isn't good but it's certainly

memorable but we don't want to do premieres and finals was there something to talk to the loved ones so there was a loved ones episode that's the Lauren Rimmer Boot episode but there's not really a lot of

yeah they drew rocks it was not there was not a lot about her though the one that I picked was the Rourke boot episode from Triple H

called The Pass Will Eat You Alive where basically she's on the swap tribe it's like two heroes two hustlers and then Rourke in the middle and at this point Rourke is working with the hustlers

to take out Chrissy and Chrissy essentially saves herself by going to JP and is like hey there's a girl's alliance going on just so you know and he's so convinced that he sticks steadfast with her she convinces Ryan because remember as you mentioned

the idol passing the relationship they broke her there and she's able to flip things and take out Rourke. It is like the first power move that I would say she makes. It's tough to pick a moment from the post-merge because like her and Ryan get blindsided and then the rest of the game is pretty much like her having to take people out around Ben

because Ben keeps finding and playing these idols. So this is a really tough one to pin down like, yes, Chrissy, this was your moment. This is why you're on 50. Yeah, I think, I mean, the loved one thing I think was a cheap one. and didn't take Ben. Yeah, it was like, oh, it came down to her and Ben.

Yeah. And she ends up winning and then does not take him. And then what he just plays an idol correctly? Yeah, it was the thing where he realized that everyone ganged up on him. And so he nullifies all the votes against him, any idols, Lauren, out of the game. I mean, none of these are making it to the 10 because they do not care to show. I mean, unless like Chrissy's going to win. I mean, again, I'm trying to read into it, but.

Yeah. No, it could be like, you know, Jeff did bring her up in the 40, of finale. Maybe they want to introduce firemaking for everybody. But that's the finale. I mean, we could, we, we can cheat and say the finale. Because I agree that I don't, I don't think it's being, I do not think it's being picked for the 10. Maybe they'll just do the first half of the finale. It's like when she gets the letter, but then we just never see how it cuts to black. Yeah. Chrissy flew back to her home planet. It all went great. Yeah, I would say that. Like to me, like the most iconic Chrissy. images her reading the note that it's going to usher and fire for us for the hopefully not

foreseeable future but certainly for the last eons of our life well that's interesting as well yeah i forgot that we it may not be in this season that we voted on it yeah who knows it was it was worded so so fairly um yeah i'm going to go the first half of that of that i mean it would have to be a challenge with right i imagine so yeah i mean listen she has four to pick from yeah this is a tough one um i'm i'm going the first half of the finale you can have the iconic rock boot oh thank you yes i will gladly take that one on the chin uh got away with a steal all right well let's get to an interesting exercise within this interesting exercise to begin with which is our trio from survivor david versus goliath now i do think as you mentioned before there will probably

be one episode at the very most that is picked from this season but I think for this exercise to start at least we're going to pick one episode for each person and then maybe at the end we'll weigh out like okay of those which is the one that's most likely to actually get picked. Yeah

so a couple of these are easy Angelina's is the one with the jacket. Yes jackets and eggs jackets and eggs in my mind it was like green eggs and ham that's not right I don't know if the Seuss Institute would institute would sue her for anything. Yeah, I think we can lock this in into the 10. Yeah, I mean,

like there a lot. Not a lot of Christian though. He's not on that tribe. And Mike White is, you know, in a pretty powerful position. He's one of the swing votes to help bring, you know, turn the tribe against Natalie. I can't remember maybe this is the episode where Christian talks about being the comptroller of Slamtown. Oh, that'd be great. Maybe there's a fun moment for him there. But obviously, this is a highlight from Angelina. I do think that this would be the one, not even to talk about the other two episodes that would be most likely to get picked. It's a moment that was referenced in the freaking game within the game in season

41. Like, the show will get any an opportunity. It's not the Eric necklace, but it's another wardrobe accessory iconic moment to talk about. And I think they'll take any opportunity they can't to talk about it. Especially because a lot of the other Mike White and Angelina stuff, like you think about the finale with the latter and

Mike White's wine, but that's the finale. There's a lot of iconic Angelina moment. So we could go to the Rice negotiation, as we're saying. but nothing is as iconic as the jacket. It was literally referenced on 49 recently. Yep. It has to be that. If Mike White's going to have his own moment,

do you have like another like standout like Mike, sure Mike White moment? So the one that I got- Just air the White Lotus. Yeah, just air an episode of the White Lotus. No, listen, oh, no, Paramount did make the bid for Warner Brothers. So maybe this would be a sign that they've gotten in back together. That's why they did it.

So the one that I picked was another weak sauce one. But this is the penultimate episode. This is ironically enough Christian's boot. It's called Are You Feeling Lucky? I picked it because, A, Mike White wins immunity in it. And B, this is like the entire narrative. People say this is like the biggest move that Mike does is finally getting everyone on board to take out Christian.

He just idled Gabby out in the previous episode. Maybe we'll get to that in a bit. And so despite all this talk about like, oh, let's turn things on Nick, he's able to get enough people on board to take out Christian. I think the finale is a bigger character highlight, of course, with him and the wine, with him giving Allison a B plus as he votes her out

and making the final tribal council, winning fire, like maybe the biggest episode for him. If I have to pick a non-finally, it's probably the one that comes before it. Yeah, I still think that just even being part of the jacket episode because I've always said, like in that moment he was like, wow, people doing ridiculous things on an island and, like, a show was born.

Yep. It's one of the best episodes of all time. So it's something they'll definitely want to show. In terms of Christian, you know, like the moments that stand out to me very much character moments, like, unfortunately, one of the premiere with the puzzle, the slide, you know, and that, hey, you know what? I believe Dave versus Glythe was a two-hour premiere and there is a two-hour slot in there. Yeah, but, I mean, they're not going to.

But, and Angelina is basically, the whole thing about Angelina was that she was basically invisible in the first like two, three episodes of the season. So I don't know if they wanted, they'd highlight Mike White and they'd highlight Christian, but no Angelina to be seen in that episode. And the other Christian one is obviously where he like talks through the challenge. Right.

So that is the second half of a two-hour chunk that they did, oh no, the first half, which was the Alec Merlino and Carl Boot. So that's definitely in there for like, they could cut theoretically the first hour out of there. They could show both hours because, Mike technically is the one who makes the move to take out Carl in that second half.

It could be interesting to do. I ultimately went with the episode that came before his boot. I believe it's called Tribal lines are blurred. The tribal lines are blurred is the double boot. And then we have so smart they're dumb. This is the loved ones challenge where Gabby gets this wind of like,

I have to turn on my closest ally. And then Christian plays an idol and is able to save himself. yet again. It's not the strongest candidate, to your point. I feel like that's maybe one of the less Christian-y Christian episodes when we think about what are his most shining examples of the wonderful character and person that he is.

So I think it really depends. Again, are we going more results-oriented and like, oh, they made this big move or is it more so? Here are the things we remember them by, even if the episode is not entirely about them. I mean, I think it's all redundant because they'll show green eggs and jacket. but which I run out

clear that the jacket was blue it's hard with Christian because again it's like a lot of the body of work of like who he was as a character

but yeah that's a good option I was trying to like hunt and pack I was like okay breath first search where he hunts for the idol nope that was

in an episode you know prior oh what about the episode where they David take out John Hanigan and the minority votes but nope that's another episode

like none of these Christian moments are lining up we got very lucky in that we got so many good Christian things in each episode but it unfortunately means we've sort of like dissipated it a little bit where there's not like one concentrated Christian episode.

I do think the John Hennigan episode, I mean, that's a great episode anyway, but it's not so like solely Christian. Yeah, exactly. Like, Idol does get played on him. Like, there is a lot of talk about him because he gets the majority of the votes and Angelina also gets an idol played on her by Hot Cop Dan. So that might be like a low-key candidate for taking care of multiple cast members at once. It's definitely going to be the jacket, though.

Oh, absolutely. All right, this might be another part of an exercise in futility considering that, again, I don't know as much as the show loves Rick Devons if they are going to show an episode from Survivor Edge of Extinction. Why do they hate it? No, I mean, I think they like him. I just don't know, like you said, limited spots. And I think that, you know, we're already expending a lot.

And considering how many new era cast members there are, I just don't know if there's room for Edge of Extinction. Me too. Yeah, exactly. I was to say that's Shannon's logic when it comes to Survivor over the past

like six years or so but let's talk about an episode that should be picked for Rick so I have a couple here the one that I thought of that he has less of a role in but is a big episode

is y'all making me crazy but is more so known for the pilots and passengers tribal council one of the wildest tribal council who'd ever seen to the point where it was meant to be like a double boot episode where they just kind of moved through the cycles, but they had to dedicate an entire episode to this and stop down halfway through the episode to be like, okay, we're just sitting

in tribal for the rest of this because this is absolutely chaotic. And if I recall correctly, Rick does have a role in eventually turning everyone on to Julia in the midst of just all the pandemonium that ensued around him. But I think if we're looking for a, I wouldn't even say a better Rick Devin's highlight, because like this is, this is a net positive. episode for him. It's not an entirely positive episode for him. It's called Awkward, which is the Ron Clark boot.

So here's a little bit of a memory jog here, Shannon. Ron Clark, on the first day of Edge of Extinction, found an advantage menu where he could pick between a bunch of different advantages. And he offered it to Rick in this episode being like, here you go, buddy, here's an advantage menu. And so

Rick plays it, and it's nothing, but then he also has an idol that he plays, and he's successfully idols Ron Clark out of the game. I mean, all of that is not good Survivor entertainment-wise. I actually very much disagree with you. I think there's a clear episode here,

and I don't think it'll make the 10, but I think it could have. The episode, where they, the first challenge from the edge, where Devin's comes back and Jeff literally says, Jeff literally says some women's are like, what does he say? Actually, I can't say it literally. Some moments take a while to become iconic, some become instantly iconic.

Yeah, he's going to want to show that infant icon. and the fact that Devon's, you know, masters, this, it's kind of like what we say with Ozzie Redemption, like uses this theme and this, this twist that they really like. So I would agree with that. The only thing is that, like, Rick kind of, I wouldn't say he disappears after he returns, but like he's not a major part of the rest of the episode. He's left out of the vote.

But doesn't he get, he gets the half idol and he gets the half idol and gives it to David. And then he has that one scene with Wardog where he's like, you know, yeah, that's a great play. In fact, not. I don't like you anymore, Wardog. Like, those are the moments he has. He's getting this episode. You think he's getting this episode? I mean, I don't think he's going to be in the 10,

but I think it's definitely the one you'd pick from an edge perspective, from like a Survivor History perspective. And I think from a Devon's perspective, like if you wanted to sum up Devons, if like Jeff Probst were to do it, he'd be like, he came back from the edge and then he lost it fire. We can't do fire because that's a finale

and it's a Chris Underwood episode. It's the only Chris Underwood episode. No, I would also say that the finale is kind of a Rick Devon's episode, because remember he plays another idol. He hides the fake idol for Julie and Lauren to find, you know, him getting taken out in fire. Yes,

is not the outcome that any of us expected, nor the best, you know, highlight of who he is as a player. But like, this is looked at is like this huge shocking moment where the front runner in from an edit perspective and a game perspective is taken out.

Like, that is his episode. So this is, I throw it in the Chrissy, throw it in the Mike White Pile. Like, in theory, it should be the finale.

If they were to do the Edge of Extinction finale in this, I would rage with the show. You'd be like, you checked through the voting records being like, I didn't have to vote for Edge of Extinction, right? There wasn't any sort of hidden clause that if I did not vote for Firemaking, that I do vote for Edge of Extinction. I mean, I do actually agree with you that if they wanted one thing

for Regiment, it does show a lot of Devons. And the fact that he was like a big enough threat to invent the whole matter of putting yourself into fire, which you've spoken about to just the eons since. However, it's a finale, so they can't. Thank God for that. I hope to never watch that again in my lifetime. Let's jump into the new era here.

And this is where things are going to become a little bit more muddied. You know, this is, these are seasons that we've watched over the past few years. Some of these are tough to like pick out certain episodes that serve as like an out and out highlight of one particular character just because of the way they do storytelling nowadays. Except for Jonathan Young. This is a very, very easy thing. And not to say he didn't have stuff that he was doing impressively

in challenges in the post merge, but go for the gusto, episode three of Survivor 4.2 has a lot in it. Obviously, it has the shit show that unfolds at Tribal Council that takes out Jenny. But I think the thing that people not only remember this episode about

and also remember Jonathan mostly from is his superhuman effort in the water when the challenge conditions were adverse at best and he's literally carrying his tribe on his back, on his side, and was the only person to actually complete the challenge in these torrid conditions. Yeah, great episode of TV, not because of Jonathan. But sure, let everyone see what happened with the Jenny boot.

There's no other question. I mean, I can't remember a single other thing about Jonathan. No, I mean, I probably could, but what there's no there's nothing else that you would so now the question is because now we'll get into this exercise at the end you know if you feel we are limited on space for new era stuff I would think on the one hand like oh this might stand a chance of making the air but it might not I would say maybe it's more of like a second string new era episode compared to all the other stuff we have to show especially because there's just one of him yeah and it you know like I mean there's a lot of

but there's only one of them. Yeah, yeah, compared to the other new era stuff where people are more in groups. All right, let's go to Survivor 45. We've got a two-sum here to talk about, I want to start with Emily, because Emily will play a key role, I think, in the episode that will choose for D, assumingly, but I think if I were to pick an episode for Emily, it would actually be no man left behind, which is the Sabaya. Good, I was going to say that. Yeah, this is the episode where Emily comes in, dead woman walking, but we see over the course of the episode that not only is she back in, you know,

an okay standing considering that Caleb is now mentoring her in the ways of the social game, but then she saves her mentor at the end, turns the entire thing onto Sabaya, who is so confident that she has an idol covered in, you know, still warm candle wax in her pocket and she leaves the game with it. I think that Emily's going to have bigger character moments in another episode that we'll speak about. But like, if you want to talk about what Emily was able to do as a character and as a player in Survivor, 45, this is the better representation. Was these 90 minutes? These were 90 minutes.

45 was the first season to be 90 minutes. Yeah, so you can only have three of these. This is a bi episode, another great episode three. Yeah. Of the new era, I love that episode. I think that's great. I mean, the other Emily moment you really think about is in the premiere when she immediately, like, comes for Bruce.

We can't do premieres. I think that, yeah, I think that's probably the one. You think about her at the Orkin and stuff, but it's not Emily enough. So the only other one is my pick for the D episode, which is this game rips your heart out. This is the one, this is Emily's boot episode. This is when she comes back being like,

hey, by the way, guys, I was the one that got Bruce voted out with an idol in his pocket. She wins the reward challenge. Did we get the iconic image of her? Oh, no, this is maybe, no, I think that was the previous episode that she won the reward challenge

and got the, oh, no, no, no, no. Sorry, rewind. She went to the sanctuary in the previous episode, got the glass of sangria for that iconic image. I believe it's in this episode where she wins a reward challenge at the final seven and then is voted out by the end of that episode.

Nope. just corrected myself rewind so this is not the unfortunately the episode that breeds the iconic Emily Flippin holding a glass of wine gift nor does it

have anything about Emily winning you know the only challenge that she will over the course of Survivor 45 unfortunately that's reserved for the Bruce episode but we still have like Emily going on the journey and refusing to play and this is more so a highlight for Dee

I should say. I think that Dee, this is the moment that she's going to bring up in the final tribal council as like officially bringing down the hammer on Austin's chances of winning, right? That she is able to get the information from Austin that Julie's going to go

and tells her to play her idol and manufactures her own unanimous idol play to take out Emily without her being the one to actually do it. I think the Drew boot is perhaps even a bigger spotlight of what D.E. is capable of accomplishing, but like, this was, I think, one of these defining moves, defining.

And so it would make sense for this to be the one for her. I think it's a great episode. I think it's a great D episode. I think it's unfortunate if you're Emily that you're like, wait, what's the highlight from 47, like, devoting me out? But it did show the journey that Emily had had to become this, like, massive threat where a move like that can cementure win and is such an important person to take out from where she came from.

I would choose that one for the balance of both of them, that final seven, but I don't think it'll be in the 10. Interesting. I thought there's a chance it might be because it is highlighting both people at once. You know, we'll talk about obviously having to find these episodes that are somewhat spotlighting multiple cast members from the same season. This is a rarity where like, you could say this is an Emily episode and you could say this is a D episode.

True, but then we're going to have to have from 44. 46, 48 and 49, let alone 47. I put in something from 47, but that's just Genevieve. We're going to have eight players in 46, 48, and 49, a third of the cast in just so seasons for the 90 minutes. I'm trying to be strategic. I just want my tweet telling me I did a good job, you know? All right.

So let's move on here to 46. Now, Shannon, I feel like there is one, a very easy one, one that requires a bit of discussion, and then one of the hardest ones in this entire conceit for me. Where do we want to start here? In terms of players, you mean? Yes. Is there one that balances all of them?

Yeah, I mean, that's tough. Maybe you just do the Tiffany boot. Yes, let's go through each of them, because Q, I think, is the easiest one to pinpoint an episode four. It's hide-and-see. I said that the new era does not have these episodes that singularly highlighted character. This is perhaps the exception.

This is the episode with the Q skirt. This is the episode with hide and seek and big mistake. This is the episode where Q tells everyone that Tiffany has an idol. This is the episode where Q at tribal council says, the only one who's going home tonight is me and turns everyone in the game against him. Wow. You know, it's funny what you say with Christian. It's like there's a body of work, but it's kind of everywhere.

And with Q, it's like all concentrated for this exercise. You've convinced me. I think that'll be the one for all three of them. They're all in the game. Yeah. it's a little bit of a Tiffany highlight as well obviously this will not be the only time she's belligerent towards Q but this is when she finds out that he might be turning things on her especially when you feels like Tiffany was largely chosen for that dynamic with Q I also think they're going to want to give a lot of Q the same way you might want to show a lot of coach like that real character moment what's Charlie doing this episode I'm sure Charlie is is doing something I'm sure it was probably coding Taylor Swift oh actually I'm No, you know what, this is? I think this is the one where he

he loses get a grip if I'm remembering to Hunter, I think, in this episode, but that's the one that has like the weird slow-mo shot of him biting the pole. Okay, well, that seems like the perfect one for all of them. Lock it into the 10. Yeah, well, let's go through the exercise

and see if he can come up with episodes for Charlie and Tiffany singularly as well. Did you have one in mind for Charlie? Charlie's moment is in the finale again. Like, Maria not voting for him for me is the moment. I mean, like, that journey and the, like, lack of completion of the journey is, like, the reason he is back. Final seven, he was really leading things. Yeah, that was the Venus Boot, my messy, sweet little friend.

I was thinking about Mama Bear, because that's the really only time Charlie's vulnerable in that season. That is when Maria officially decides to turn on him. He has already turned on Maria at this point, but she wins immunity. and so we see a little bit of a highlight of like, okay, Charlie's able to get the numbers on his side to make sure that he's not voted out by his closest ally. Yeah, I don't think there's enough there, but sure. Well, speaking of not enough there,

again, probably the most difficulty of this entire thing, picking one for Tiffany, who I love as a character, it's just really tough finding, like, something that really spotlights her in a major way. The two I had was first her boot out, episode, run the red light, uh, because even though, you know, she is not the focus of this episode, this is the infamous Applebee's meltdown episode. She's still a part of it. Yeah, she's still fighting with Q. She gets taken on the reward where she does not eat the beloved Bourbon Street

bacon burger. And she gets voted out with an idol in her pocket. So like the episode is still about her at the end of the day. There also is, uh, the episode beforehand, which is spicy Jeff is the hunter boot where this is when she's first informed that Q was going to turn everything on her and she heard Q just start getting into it at the challenge at tribal council everyone wants to vote for her but she says like if I get a sniff that anything's happening I'm playing my idol tonight so like those were the ones that I picked between even if they aren't necessarily as out there as definitely hide and seek for even some of Charlie's episodes I mean the 46 post merge is so good like a lot of this is really good um I was thinking you wouldn't want to do it

because it would be a cruelty, but, like, you could really spotlight Yanu and go back to, like, the Banu days of her telling Banu to get up, but, like, why would you do that to a human being? This is the stuff that we're trying to get people to turn them on to survive. I mean, it's cute, she was in that episode, too,

but talking about Wackadoodles win? Yeah, I mean, but Q's there the whole time being entertaining, you know? So, hide-and-seek, I think, is the best one. Otherwise, I would just go straight for her food episode, but in general, hide-and-seek is the one. What did you have for Genevieve? I was like, are we really going to go to Kishan? Are we going to do that?

That's what I had on there. No, no. Look, that's when, like, Genevieve becomes a character on the show. But it's like one of the things that she single-handedly decide. She flips the entire tribe on its head just by a whiff that she's picking up from Kishan. I think they do Operation Italy. Like, I think the chiefly part of Operation Italy, it's like the most iconic thing you remember about 47. It's not not a Genevieve episode.

It's not fully a Genevieve episode in the same way the Qishan boot is. but I feel like they would care more to show it as a reflection of both her and, like, the show at large. I don't think they can show it because it's just Genevieve in terms of making the actual episodes. But for me, Operation Italy is like too iconic to leave on the cutting room floor for the Qishon boot. Yeah, it's a good...

Even though that is a great episode. A lot of these is a good pre-mage episode. Yeah, I think the reason why I picked the Qishan boot, but I didn't feel like entirely whole about it is because something is missing from the Qishan boot, which is Genevieve's emotional arc, right? the fact that like she came in wanting to play this cutthroat game started slaying throats and it's like oh man those are not throats that i want to slid i feel bad there are people

behind those throats uh and so behind there is there is a moment in operation in italy exactly there's a moment i thought i was just slashing random limbs who would have thought there's a time of brain and nervousness i'm corrected that but i mean she does uh you know go to the sanctuary in operation in italy and she has this moment where she's like reading this letter from her dad being like, I'm sure you have so many friends. She's like, I have no friends. So could be an interesting low-key Genevievee Pileight too.

Yeah, I think that that would be great, but I don't think, I think it won't make it. All right, let's go to 48 here. We'll start with Joe, because I think the Joe one is underlying bold italicize, not only for his episode, but I think honestly the one they would pick from 48. We are, of course, referring to Masterclass in Deception,

which is the Bianca Boot episode, but is more well known as the episode where Eva has her episode after the immunity challenge and decides to reveal her autism thanks to the support of Joe during her moment. The unfortunate thing and the interesting here, this is what I say

when we're trying to get in the heads of production and seeing what's important to them is that an episode prior to that, two 50 years, Kyle and Camilla are going to actually blindside Joe, so not a great Joe episode, in this idle play where Thomas goes home. that's the episode that 48 should have

Carla is going to win two of them are going to come back Joe is also in that group like they all go to tribal council it's the flashiest thing and the moment I would choose for both Carl and Camilla however they definitely will choose

the Joe and Eva moment I'm sure it's Jeff's favorite moment of all time if you were to ask him right now they ask him his favorite players of all the time he said Joe and Eva I mean we can lock that in we can lock in that episode five but is it episode five

with Joe and Eva? yeah it should be episode four and that's like probably the best that's the best episode of 48 for me is episode four yeah so that's episode five is also good but like they should be I think if you want to spot like Joe I mean Joe Carl and Camilla

and try and show all of them in some sort of balanced way I'd go episode four but yeah so that's what I was thinking about Camilla and Kyle not only tough separating them game but tough separating them in terms of like what episodes are the best to highlight them

as individuals. I did go with episode four as my Camilla episode, which is the house parties over because she is the one to get in with the guys and talk about like, yeah, me and Kyle don't work together. You know, she's able to really ferret the intel out of them. And then for Kyle, I went with Icarus time, which is the Shaheen Boot episode. Again, both of them worked in tandem.

That's what made them so good. But I guess if you had to pick, like, who plays the bigger role in that Shaheen boot? It might be Kyle, because Kyle is the one. comes back from the reward after Shaheen pitches this plan and is like, okay, I'm going to use this throw him under the bus, has that relationship with Joe where he's able to get the ball rolling.

And then Camilla comes through with the clutch, oh, yeah, Shaheen does say he has an idol that then causes Joe to sort of spiral and take him out. Yeah, I just kind of think nothing was ever as flashy as that episode four. Yeah. And that for me works both of them. But I'm locking in episode five to my 10. All right.

last but certainly not least let's talk about some episodes Shaden that we have spent the better part of the fall diving into from Survivor 49 I'm going to start with Savannah here and this why I think separate Savannah and Rizzo

well I'm not going to because that's that's going to be the episode that I picked that I think could apply to Rizzo as well it wasn't my Rizzo episode because I wanted to again pick different ones for each person but the one I picked for Savannah is Hot Grim Reaper it is the MC Boot episode.

This is where Savannah is, opens the episode on the bottom. You know, she gets into these weird, awkward tips with Sage. We see her open up about her work trauma. It's like the rare personal moment we get from Savannah and the way she's portrayed in this season. She wins immunity. She wins a trip over to the other camp

to completely scuttle everybody's plans. She wins an extra vote. I mean, I have said before that I feel like this is one of the biggest sliding doors in Survivor history. where this season changes so much based on her winning this specific challenge and those specific, you know, externalities that come with it. And I think it's a great highlight for her as well.

I think, I mean, that's a really good one. I think that's really fair. I think for me, for both of them, and I do think we'll get something from 49 so we can go Borneo to 49 and kind of show that spectrum, even though we just saw it. If you wanted to watch it, it was on. but I think that Jawan boot for me is the clearest cut Uli win

like in other ways they win and he never even realize they're winning which is maybe its own thing but you know what I mean it's like they're a part of it it's these unanimous votes like all close to it even with Alex but the Jawan boot is like they've been building to get the power they bring over Sophie they use Savannah's extra vote

Rizzo is that the one where he gets up and plays the fake yeah so that was That was my pick for Rizzo's episode is the fake that as the days grow by, we realize like, okay, maybe it was not the next level move that we thought it was. But in the moment, it was big and flashy and fun. It was a big, you know, historic moment in Survivor History, playing your own a fake idol. The other one I had for Rizzo was actually that Alex food episode just because of the effort

he makes to like completely snow Sage and Joanne, just making shit up to try to throw Alex under the bus. But I think, again, I, a lot of people. said after that fake idol moment, oh, this is why Rizzo's on 50. So it makes sense to serve that as the highlight for him. I mean, I think the MC episode, the Jawan episode, like the Boots and the Stephen Boot are I think the three best episodes of the season. The Stephen Boot I wouldn't go with because I feel like Uli is portrayed to have and

probably realistically, like didn't fully even realize they'd won until they had, which is hilarious. But it's not as much as like a clear-cut win. Like the Ju-Wan Boot for me, it gets both of them, which is because they were never apart. But it gets both of them just like real win of the war. And I mean,

they were about to lose the numbers and then regain them. But that to me is like the definitive. We've pulled it back from losing Nate. We've won. And it's got so much from both of them. The Savannah and Savannah's immune. Yeah.

And Savannah's immune as well. So it's got it all. Yeah. So Shannon, we have gone through our individual picks. And we've sort of exercised the second part of this podcast throughout. But now we are officially getting down to brass tacks.

We have to figure out what these 10 episodes are going to be. Now again, I'll allow us a little leeway here for the 11th and the 12th. If we want to pick two one hour episodes, if we want to pick one two hour episode, totally our prerogative here. But let's go through a bit of the short list here. You mentioned them before. But what do you think are definite lots? Well, let's look in the New York because I think we should do hide and seek.

Yes. I think we should do the Jawan boot and I think we should do the Joe and Eva moment. I don't think we're doing anything in the Joe and Eva episode. They don't know

so they start the episode. Oh no, they have that amazing conversation. Yeah, so that's the other thing. It's a big Joe episode because they also have that conversation after the reward

where they're talking about their respective family histories and even in the beginning of the episode Kyle and Camilla are able to still like snow the California girls by being like, yeah, I don't know what happened. Kyle made this move

despite the fact that we voted together and Kyle used my extra vote. So I do agree. And also in defense of the fact the production will use this episode, they like come together, they win the challenge is going to be like such an important

like long-term alliance, but they all end up on 50. So, yeah, okay. So, yeah, it's tough. So it's a 90 minutes for me. So I think, yeah, so I think that to your point, we're going specifically to the 90-minute episodes

because we know there are three 90-minute episodes on the 18-19-20th. Isn't that great? Yeah, I love puzzles. So we know that we have to pick three there. I think the, so I think hide and seek is a lock. I think that 48 episode five is a lock. What's the name of that one?

Masterclass and Deception. I think the one that is up in the air right now is either the 49 episode or the 45 episode. Because the other thing is that I was thinking about this is going to be tough because like, we have three winners. do they want to highlight all three of their winners in some way somehow? True, but they can't because they can't. That's the issue is like

then you say get rid of high and seek but you can't get rid of high and seek that's arguably one of the biggest locks to put on this. I just can't imagine that they I think they want to show like the last 26 years you know like 1 to 49 that really tips me over.

Even though I think the 47th, the 45 stuff is better content. I would go operation in Italy actually as the number one of all of these even though it's only highlighting Genevieve. We could double that for the other seasons, but I think they want to show, for me they want to run the gamut.

So I'd say the Juwan boot. Or could it be a case where they said, you don't need to rewatch this. It just happened like two months ago. Yeah. I mean, it does seem silly. But 48 also happened this, you know, in 23rd. A year ago, I mean, almost a year ago at this point.

Well, where's alive? You know as well as I do, how long a year is, especially in the realm of television. I don't want to, like, make the calls on this and be wrong. I was just thinking about this. I went to my friends, bash the rep party, and we were, like, in two trivia teams. And, like, I was in a team with a lot of her, like, more recent friends, and I've been friends with her for, like, almost 30 years.

So I had to, like, do the heavy lifting on the childhood questions, and I got one wrong, and we lost by that one question. And I was, like, so upset. I'm like, I'm so sorry. I've let you all down. And one of my friends, sweet friends was like, I don't understand why you're so upset. Like, what do you win if you win this? and I was like, the game.

Actually, I had bought the prizes. But anyway, I really don't want to get to win your own prize back. Yeah, I feel a lot of pressure. I want to go with 49, but I'm willing, I think we should. And say, I want to go with 45. You know what, we can leave this up in the air. Maybe this is, uh, no, no, you have to lock something in. I was going to say, Laurel, can Laurel break the tie?

Um, let's, okay, if you want 45, we'll go with 45. but I will blame you forever if it's a 40 because I also think that that's like a clear 45 episode 49 it could be between a couple that's the thing I yeah I just feel like 45 and like Emily's also

such a big character as well like they would want to highlight her I mean it's seven they had four 90 minute episodes it would be easy peasy pickings but like that's that's operationately the best of all of this probably what operationally just right only come out

They're like, you know, we just want to, yeah, we want to highlight some cast members, but, like, we just show up rationally. Good. Okay. Well, let's do 45 then. All right. So we will do 45, which is this game rips your heart out, the Emily boot. Okay.

All right. So now we'll do you want to go from the top of the order now? Because you talk about- So now we have nine one-hour episodes. We could, yeah. We want to lock in coach. Yes. We want to lock in, if it smells like a rat, give a chief. Yep.

Stephanie at Ulong. Yeah, I would imagine that's the case. I will not give up, I believe, is the name of it. Subtle. We want to do Colby and Jerry. Yes, honeymoon or not. We want to do the loved ones videos of Borneo. That's five.

Yes, which is. thy name is duplicity. So we've got possibly four more one-hour episodes. Or we could do like the premiere of Heroes Villains, but we already have all those characters. So jackets and eggs, we got to put on there. Oh, we got to be that at six? Okay.

So now we have a little bit of wiggle room here. So if we're doing an out of 12, what do we have to get for this to be a passing grade, like eight? Yeah, so we have, yeah, you know what? Let's have a little bit more. Well, let's say two-thirds or more. That's like 66% is the passing grade. passing grade.

All right. So we don't even know how many they're doing, but we've got six and we need three more. I really like the Co-Rong one. Are they going to do that, though? I don't think they're going to do the Co-Rong one.

We don't think they're going to do H-H-H-H though. We don't think they're going to do Edge of Extinction. Co-Rong is better than those. That's true. What are other options? You were running stuff down. I'm just here for the vibes.

You just here for the vibes. So is there an Ozzie episode we should have put on it? Do you think they would put Trojan horse on there? I'd rather do the Co-Rong one. just trying to think about like do they want to because again to your point this might indicate like who they want to highlight versus who they don't I feel like Aubrey well was so in the background of that preview well I mean now we're getting into the like I'm getting into the edgick of the encore episode's choices um and I do you know like getting

into the edgick of their 50 choices which were actually pretty telling so I want to go with CoRong but I think we can fit in all of these it's weird because it's like we're only doing three and that's going to cover oh well okay well let's go back here because season 42 episode three is an hour long episode

yeah you think they put that in there just for Jonathan there's a there's a non-zero chance that I think they would put it in for Jonathan Okay, we have, what are we choosing three between? What are our options right now? Okay, so we have... Who has not been spotlighted?

Okay, so we have not spotlighted, Ozzie. Okay. We have not spotlighted Aubrey, Chrissy. I guess we're doing all three David versus Glythe people at once with jackets and eggs. Yeah, that's done. Unless we make it like a Dave versus Glythe two-hour feature and put another one back to back. And we've not highlighted Rick or Jonathan for all. the 60 minute episodes.

Honestly, this is tough. I don't think any of those would make it. I mean, I'd like to do Kro-Rong and then maybe like Jonathan and like Ozzy? It's not going to be Chrissy.

There's no moment there. Yeah, so. I would do the edge of extinction moment, but you're not high on it. I could, listen, you gave me 45. I could do the edge of extinction word. I don't know. I'll abdicate.

No, I don't want that. and Aussie is like such a big character who they want to remind people about and coaches in that episode but we already have a coach moment but like sure hmm I would go Jonathan Ozzy and co-wrong

and co-wrong okay you know what let's do that if they're going to keep bringing Lobby back they should show her episode and it's such a clear episode where there's, like, no question. Like, if we do Devons, it's like, it's possible that they do Devons,

but we just got the episode wrong, whereas, like, if they do Aubrey, they are doing that episode. Yeah, I would agree with that. Oh, it's such high stakes. I can't. Let's see, okay. I'm just writing everything down here.

This is important. It's very important. Now I'm thinking about, like, would they highlight Aubrey over Devons? They have brought Aubrey back at every available opportunity since she played. And, oh, and what?

You know who's in that Extinction Merge episode? Aubrey. Is she? She made the merge. She did the edge. I like she was voted out, but so was Devons.

Oh, God. That's how you're going to highlight her? Voted out at the edge, losing the challenge. I just, I don't know. What are you, what three are you leaning towards? The three I'm leaning towards

is, I would say, Jonathan, Okay, we're going to have to lock in Jonathan then Lock in Jonathan because I think we're both agreeing on that one And they would like that Yeah, I think they would like that Now, I guess the question is what they want Ozzy and Jonathan You know, I feel like there's Yes, they did, they literally clearly did

Yeah, so like then we should put an Aussie episode in there We should put I think Ozzy Jonathan At least give me cora wrong You know, like you look at least give me corong I'll give you corong, there we go dessert after I've had my dozens of eggs Which honestly I do actually enjoy

I don't judge Jonathan for that I have a lot of eggs, my cholesterol is bad. How many jackets do you have, though? Um, not a lot right now in the summer heat, but, um, how do I wind up with 13? What? Oh, no, I have 12. I have 12. Okay. Gotcha. Okay. So we really just, that's it. You're going to give up on Edge of a Cincton like that? I think a lot of people did during the Cincton, so. Actually, only Keith and Wendy. And we'll almost me. Um, okay. So what do we? Yeah, I mean, oh, now we got my brain ticket again. by doing an are you sure

that's just so stupid mad is it the off season because it's like it's just so interesting that like we have this period in the 30s right where people were saying oh I'm so happy to see Chrissy and the Davis Glide people and Rick Devons back and we're only highlighting one season out of those three

the good one yes the good one that three people are in which is one of the best episodes of all time and we have Quarong we have the 30s I guess We have 32 and 37. Yeah. All right. I will go with it here.

I will take your lead on this one. All right. So don't you. Don't say that. This is going to be like the best red party all over again. I never got over it. It's been years. All right.

Well, let me do an alternate universe here. So I'm going to put us in a different world that could maybe serve as a bit of a backup if this turns out not to be the case. If one of these two hour slots is, for a finale episode, I would say the Triple H finale would be one. It can't be. Because it's going to be chronological.

You can't fit in enough there. I'm also trying to game that. You could do, like, I don't even think you can fit in to get to the Heroes vs. That is true. That is true. Trying to think about, like, okay, how many episodes would we have in between? Yeah, I mean, I'm also thinking about the finale. The more I remember it, that was also a very long finale in a very short reunion. Like, the reunion, like the reunion was only like 20 something minutes

long. Like it barely had anything in it. So I don't know they could even squeeze everything from that finale into a two-hour format. Also these would be terrible choices. Like awful. Like maybe we'll lose, but we'll be right. We'll be like objectively correct.

There'll be a moral victory. Would they want to show the Edge of Extinction Merge episode to remind people that Joey Amazing is not on this season? I don't think anything they want to show Joey Amazing. There's so much redacted stuff in I mean, listen, we found a very good episode from the Australian Outback. A lot of the problematic people are already gone at that

point. That's good. That was a good episode, Boot Order. The, I think we're good. So we got, we got, what, Borneo? All right, so I'll read them off here. So we have, in chronological order, so this is what we anticipate the running order is going to be. First up, thy name is Duplicity, the Greg Boot episode from Borneo, representing Jenna Lewis. That's the great boot episode even. Yeah. And her loved ones

visit or lack thereof. Next up, honeymoon or not, which is, I also believe, no, it's episode nine, I think, of Survivor the Australian Outback, where Colby and Jerry go on a very a very one-sided

date, I should say, and Colby helped turn everyone on to Jerry beginning a seemingly survivor career-long feud. Then we have, I will not give up, which is the merge episode of Survivor Palau, Stephanie LaGroza temporarily at least becomes a tribe of one

before becoming one of the many. Then, of course, the incredible of it smells like a rat. Give it cheese. Eric gives up the necklace. Ceree plays a very large role in that. Then we have the martyr approach. Coach goes to exile island, stands up in an awkward position in an immunity challenge, says goo,

recites a poem at Tribal Council, and is voted out. Then we have another season. with coach in it. Now he's sitting back with easing his back, watching Jack and Jell, but the more important thing is that in Trojan horse, Ozzie decides to send himself to Redemption Island of one of the biggest gambits in Survivor history.

Then we're skipping ahead, take the 23 and make it a 32 with not, I'm not afraid to make good friends from Survivor Co-wrong where Aubrey Brockow is able to convince Ty Trang to not only flip on his alliance, but deny him dependent of life

that Scott Pollard needs. so much. I'm not talking about his heart transplant. Then we have, of course, jackets and eggs. Angelina truly a coming out piece for her character, showcasing not only her ability to think outside the box, but maybe those negotiation skills not being as up to snuff as she might think. Then we're jumping into the new era with Go for the Gusto, season 42, episode three, where Jonathan certainly does, as he is able to fight raging rapids to drag his entire tribe, a ladder, and the love of many, many survivor fans back to shore. Then we get into our 90-minute phase of the series as we get.

This game Rips Your Heart Out, which is the Emily Boot episode that not only serves as an unfortunate yet beautiful ends to one of the biggest metamorphosis in Survivor history in Emily, but also is one of the flashiest moves that Di Viadaris makes. In fact, I could say it was one of the winning moves she makes, considering that she says, cites it in her winning final travel council pitch. Then we go to Survivor, 46, where you don't have to be searching far and why to find hide and seek, which showcases Quintavius Q. Burdette, as well as plenty of doses of Charlie and Tiffany as well.

Finally, last but not least, it's an episode that catapulted Survivor into the headlines in a major way for the first time in a long time, especially in a positive way, with Masterclass in Deception as Joe Hunter. was duped by Kyle and Camilla, but comes out the winner in this episode considering what he is able to help Eva through. That is our list of the episodes we guess are going to be showcased for us in encore fashion

before we get to the main event proper. I think we've done pretty well. Who didn't get spotlighted? Rizzo, Savannah, Genevieve, Chrissy Devons. Is that it? That's it? That's pretty good. Less than a quarter of the cast.

not bad not bad yeah so um like some of this is tough honestly it's a really hard assignment we're picking from all the episodes ever it should be a better passing grade than eight do you want to bump that you want to inflate the grades right now or deflate i suppose i think if we get one at no i'm sure i um i feel pretty good at least about half of these i i think eight is a very achievable number to go for it's not for all the survivor history obviously there's still a lot of like like any good survivor casting there will certainly be a few curveballs that will be thrown our way. But I feel like we're relatively right on the money here. But we want to hear from all of you. What would you pick personally as individual episodes

that highlights these players? And do you feel like we are on the same page as CBS in picking what we think is going to be shown? Regardless, we are going to be tuned in and locked in starting on Monday, February 9th. And I will say there might be some content going on around these encore episodes as well. It'll be a glimpse into Survivor's season. past before we move into the future. Shannon, speaking in the present, thank you so much for coming on and engaging and get another weird experimental podcast with me.

I can think of no better person to do it with. And we shall see what mythical and metaphoric and perhaps monetary prize you will receive if we do indeed reach that 8 out of 12 threshold. Well, if they choose this, like they chose the 50 cast, we're going to be nowhere close. Because we could not have predicted in any capacity and I like this is

I can never get in their heads I don't know what they're doing so I don't I don't have faith but I mean hopefully we get that tweet saying you did a good job from Rob or who's gonna I mean will you just tweeted me or who's gonna tweet me if we get it right

I think now there's a collective community of people that will tweet at you if you got it right or wrong don't worry you'll know so don't tell me if I got it wrong though you're gonna do coverage on these rerun episodes? There might be some coverage there, but something that I can announce when it comes to Survivor 50 proper. And cards up, we are recording this in December before any of the

episodes are announced. We don't know when that is. So we're just sort of like holding it right now frozen in carbonite until we can finally melt that down and release it probably in January. But if it hasn't been revealed yet at this point, I will be doing a really fun podcast the rest of this month where I'll be taking an even deeper dive into some of these players. In fact, all of these players, not just from this episodic perspective to talk about their overall survivor careers. So in the vein of all the great stuff Puyah does with the traders, we're adopting something very similar to Survivor 50, where I will be getting together with an esteemed member of the RHAP community to go over a Survivor 50 player.

Think of this essentially as Survivor for Dummies. If you are someone, who watched all the old school seasons new era don't know her this is a way to get to know these modern day players if you're someone who got into survivor in the new era and haven't had the time or the wherewithal to go back and watch these old seasons this is what you need to know about the old schoolers uh and so we give a highlights highlights and low lights i would say strains of weaknesses possible friends and foes of each and every member of this cast to give you what you need to know about this group before february 12th

25th kicks off. I can reveal Shannon will be part of one of these podcasts as well as many of the friendly faces all around RHAP. Otherwise, besides that podcast, Shannon, anything you want to plug for the people in January? I mean, you said it was January so many times on the podcast and you're like, you know what? It's actually not January. Got you. Not a lot going on. That would have been a good time to have a baby. No, actually probably not good at anyway. But, you know, strength survival will start at a point we think and there'll be a preseason for that you know what they they're saying the preseason that's the real season that's the good stuff um i don't disagree if anyone didn't check out our um winner rankings new era podcast that was really fun i recommend that

at shannon gates guston around i don't know where that's that either but you know if you want some stuff to listen to in january peter and i my husband and i do that podcast guston around podcast YouTube, Spotify, Apple, follow me for all of that. That's it. All right. Well, thank you all so much for entertaining yet another ridiculous concept of a podcast. Hope you all enjoyed it. We shall see how right we are on February 9th, this entire encore episode's experiment begin. Thank you all, as always so much for listening. Shannon, thank you so much. Until next time, everybody. Take care. Bye-bye. Thank you.