RHAP: We Know Survivor - Hannah Rose Reveals Her Go-To Comfort Shows | TV for Real

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

In this episode, Mike and Sasha speak with Survivor 45's Hannah Rose about her favorite go-to comfort shows and why she applied to the FBI after watching too many police procedurals....

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Starting point is 00:01:48 here. Well, the person we're talking with today knows a thing or two about needing a fix and. Oh, come on. Low hanging fruit, Mike. Geez. Well, we are, we have come to the tree of Hannah Rose for all types of fruit as we are going to talk about her taste in scripted television. So happy to have you here, Hannah. How are you? So glad to be here. So pumped. Anyone that knows me knows that my love language is watching shows with the person I'm dating or in this case married to. So this is great. Was there a connecting show between you and your now husband which we should say congrats on
Starting point is 00:02:25 your recent wedding yes thank you so much i know i'm like i might have lost lost i might have quit survivor in this completely embarrassing way but someone loves me and that's important um yeah i think for me a big test in the relationship was are you willing to watch all seasons of lost with me because lost here's a lot is like one of my favorite shows of all time and he said yes and so we proceeded to watch every show that i am like obsessed with in a row and i was like okay this could work he's him i love it he's him he's your constant oh what a great what a great reference well yeah we need to talk about this because hannah when you and i met in person last fall you showed this up to me and it was really you know talking about not mistaking coincidence for fate i mean as someone who is a devout follower
Starting point is 00:03:18 of lost talking about it uh you know ad infinitum alongside josh wiggler talk to me about when you got into the show and what got you into the show oh my god i don't even remember how old i was i'm pretty sure it was on tv so it was like week to week waiting period i remember that about lost and about gray's anatomy and the oc those are like yeah millennial up in this bitch so lost and honestly i do think subconsciously my love and affinity for lost is why I was like I have to go to the island and even now I'm sometimes like I have to go back even though I don't want to go back um because like being ruined on an island is so losty and I know that Charlie from law or yeah Charlie from lost is a survivor fan and I was like I need him to know
Starting point is 00:04:02 that I exist so I just i loved everything about it i mean the psychology the challenges of surviving ironic and everything about it and there are naysayers who shit on the ending and to them i say you just don't have the capacity to hold the space for this show say it again say it louder do you have any favorite characters any consistent ones because also as a therapist i would imagine like all these people have issues out the wazoo that must be so fun to analyze yeah i mean re-watching it as an adult like after clinical training there's when i was teaching at college i was teaching abnormal psych what i had them do for their main project was watch a show and diagnose a character and write up a whole case conceptualization. So they
Starting point is 00:04:48 loved it. And I loved it because I was like shows like I love shows. Um, so not pathologizing any of them. I mean, such a basic bitch here. I love Sawyer. I mean, if I were to bear children, which I don't want to, I would name it Sawyer or Juliet oh okay I mean I knew it at first but yeah Sawyer Charlie I mean I was like a budding drug addict sober 13 years and you know so Charlie and his whole like let me let me do heroin in the airplane bathroom I was like yeah before I ever even like drank but still it resonated I'm obsessed with you this is so funny because for me obviously it was Saeed but you know representation minimal
Starting point is 00:05:37 for us Indians so here or South Asians so here we are also Saeed is just objectively daddy I'm like you can well yeah you want to pull a nail or two off like go right ahead that that's the zaddy calendar right there i mean that's the thing is that lost was you know despite it groundbreaking everything it was a show on broadcast television in the early 2000s like there were plenty of men to make that zaddy calendar you've got desmond as well pulling off like the man bun look. I, my favorite episode of the whole series is The Constant. Of course.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And in my, I don't know if you remember that on Facebook, there used to be like an about me place. And I would put quotes because like emo girl. And I put the letter that Penny wrote Desmond. And that was in my about me on Facebook. So I was like, oh, i'm giving myself chills i love shows where and it wasn't even in the like you know when people wrote the notes like that whole section that they took out oh yeah but no it's legitimately in the center yeah yeah i over identify with
Starting point is 00:06:43 characters shows are my life i mean so yeah I think there was something to it like with going on Survivor like I'm gonna be a character now and then it was like oh no well so you talk about you know living through shows what is the first show you remember that you were like really really into the OC oh yeah the Yeah. The OC. Um, my, I had older sisters and so they were really into it. I remember being really into the OC week to week. And also I think I was 16 when I started Grey's Anatomy like on TV. And I actually, when I went to college declared pre-med again, delusional, maybe she is like it's giving delusional um i declared pre-med because of and scrubs i was like shut up oh my god so which character on grays has like like
Starting point is 00:07:34 had this profound impact or was it just i love sex in break rooms sex and break rooms was i a virgin at six no i wasn't oh gross um sorry world but whatever i think that's pretty i love it um but yeah i think you know obviously mayor her whole i mean i literally quoted her in some of my survivor pregame interviews because i regrettably called kendra a pick-me girl. Which is a Grey's Anatomy reference. Wait, pick-mes are a Grey's Anatomy reference? Yup. Meredith Grey says Derek Shepard, so pick me, choose me.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And it's the origination of the pick-me girl. Correct. I'm still learning things about Grey's Anatomy every day I exist on this earth, it seems. I have no idea. Hannah, we did a whole episode someone oh you did yeah we did a whole episode where Kelly Kelly Wentworth and I went through each and every like ridiculous um you know whatever ridiculous plot line and we didn't even make it i think we stopped at the shooting but that was the hour basically trauma we went through it with mike and that was mike's face to hold yeah i mean it's pretty profound i will say as someone who has been present for a shooting weird fun fact about me
Starting point is 00:08:59 right before we moved to ashville north carolina which is where i live now we lived in baltimore city and we went to go see the hunger games prequel, which was fire. And as soon as the movie ended, catching fire was the second one. I mean, obviously, but like, if I need a hunger games fix, I'll go for that daddy president snow as a youth. Whoa. Oh yes. Okay. Attracted to him. And, um, and yeah, anyway, there was a shooting and it was like super traumatic.
Starting point is 00:09:25 It was this whole thing. And then we were like, we're moving. And we did, I will say the Grey's Anatomy shooting double episode was more traumatic. Yeah. Wow. Wow. I can't even, I, I beg that most people can't relate. Yeah. Yeah. I like that is so American. I'm embarrassed'm embarrassed i know just casually at a shooting no one died so i can like kind of joke about it um so that's something but yeah those episodes the introduction of mick steamy which is really disturbing watching him in euphoria oh i didn't even i don't watch euphoria. Well, his character is unwell. Is he a teacher?
Starting point is 00:10:06 He's like a pedophilic character. Yeah, like disgusting older man being a predator for trans women. Yeah, it was so, and I was like, McSteamy, no, like you are no longer a sexual fantasy. I don't. Oh, they killed you for a reason. I mean, yeah, we talked about this last week with danny from the amazing race like i just don't understand
Starting point is 00:10:29 look a gig is a gig but if you're that actor that's like i'm known for being a heartthrob you know what will really get people on my side if i play this creepo depot really show off my range like i know there's a cost benefit analysis that needs to be done with that i know i guess i guess it's an actor and it's your craft right and it's your work and your vocation like he did such a phenomenal job because it's so cringy but anyway it really he fell from grace for me so now if I were to watch grace I'm like he's hot but he's sick wow yeah oh my I'm trying to think because I feel like the Harryter kids like went on this weird thing as well right where they were like oh we have to break out a harry like our roles
Starting point is 00:11:12 so we must do something totally outrageous yeah daniel radcliffe had his dick out on broadway exactly what i was thinking i was like like it's outrageous. And poor Daniel Radcliffe also was battling a lot of stuff on set on the last. Alcoholism. Yeah. Yeah. Representation. So it's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So that's what I think of is like, I just I think there is there must be some bridge that doesn't actually make sense. And maybe folks shouldn't cross, but they do. They do. And I still love them for it you know because they are people at the end of the day there's some sort of need within them whether it's the need to like show themselves in one way or a very different way yeah yeah 100 anyway all good shows grays 10 out of. Well, I don't think you're the only person, though, that probably got more into the medical professional world as a result of Grey's Anatomy. And you're also probably not the only person to be like,
Starting point is 00:12:12 oh, this isn't like the way it's shown on TV. Because I think, yes, it was the early 2000s. The medium had been around for a while. But still, I mean, it kind of romanticizes it a little bit. Absolutely. Like, you don't. it's like Survivor. This is how like traumatized I am by my three day experience. I'm like, everything comes back to Survivor.
Starting point is 00:12:32 So sorry. I know it's like also Survivor podcast. This one isn't. But yeah, it's like you watch it on TV and there are these characters and you're like, I could do that. I mean, that's what I did with going pre-med. And that's what I did with going on Survivor. And when I watched Quantico the ABC show yes um yeah for the FBI no you okay now say no you
Starting point is 00:12:52 must say no like something's wrong with me my husband and I both did at the time this was like five or six years ago and I was working as a counselor at a treatment center and yeah I just like applied for the FBI and got an interview what was it and yeah i just like applied for the fbi and got an interview what was it well it's just like a questionnaire and you know no i meant sorry that like attracted you yeah to someone right it's like hot people in boot camp and then being detectives we just finished binging re-binging all eight seasons of homeland are you one of the greatest shows of all time and i said to him should we become like detectives and like maybe go to the cia and he was like something is deeply wrong with you but yes but sure sign me up i'm intrigued though what you're talking about with the application process
Starting point is 00:13:38 this sounds like the jeopardy test like your fellow season 45 cast members just like yeah fill this out if you pass enough questions you move on to the next round. Yes. I mean, Survivor, same thing. It's like a 30 second video. And if you're funny or like, in my case, wearing Invisalign and then taking it out in the middle of the thing. Oh, you're so authentic. We should cast you. But I see why.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Like this is the stuff that I think gets people cast. You know, is that when they're like i watched conico and i decided i could do it yeah should maybe be a red flag maybe no i mean for you as your yes and your growth correct but i think unfortunately for us sick viewers that like to see you know almost naked starving people on an island yeah I do love when they suffer I love it I really hope just as a side note Andy finds the yellow tribes immunity idol just because chaos will ensue I'm like period period I love being on my couch with food watching survivor there's nothing better well you mentioned greys
Starting point is 00:14:45 you mentioned quantico are you really into a lot of those procedural shows or more the those more the exception than the rule i like a little bit of everything i'm a scripted show bitch i mean but like there are some serial killer procedurals like the fall the killing i mean 10 out of 10 i have a list of shows to watch next and then shows to re-watch like 24 is on there um yeah i do i do love that i don't listen to or watch true crime but i watch a lot of crime shows but i also love like bridgerton and anything that shonda rhimes touches that's true okay give me your bridgerton thoughts, because this is something that Sasha and I both have seen. Period. Interesting. Okay, when season one first came
Starting point is 00:15:30 out, loved it, was like, am I in heat? Like, this was that after? Yeah. Like, Sean, Regé, Paul, or whatever his beautiful name is. I was like, I am monogamous, but I would make an exception. You know, like, I was, holy shit, I just loved everything about it.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And I loved the period piece of it. I just loved it. Season two, loved. Queen Charlotte, gobbled it up. Actually, someone who works on Survivor, like as a tech who I'm very close with, was like, you need to watch this. And I was like sobbing watching it, texting her. And it was like this beautiful thing. The last season, haven't even finished it.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And I think I kind of ruined it for myself because I forced my husband to watch Bridgerton season one as I do. I'm like, I liked it. We need to watch it together now. And re-watching season one a few years later, I was kind of like, I don't love it. Like this isn't doing it for me anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And I don't know what changed. No, I think according to me, at least how I feel, because I didn't read the books. I just watched the show and I was like, oh, this is hot. This is cute. He like, Duke, please, you know, when like call me, right? Also, I'm also monogamous, but reality and fiction. So anyway, I was watching it.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And then I watched it with my husband, or rather, sorry, I was watching. And then my husband is like, what are you, what, is this porn? Like, what's going on, ma'am? Why are you like daylight? What's going on? And I was like, no, this is, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:03 a show you should watch with me like you know trying to bond and then he ruined it a little bit because he was pointing every plot hole um as to what Daphne was doing so that happened and then I read the second book and I said oh actually she was that this is a child like Daphne Almore and it felt like she was just a little bit a lot a bit um unaware of said world because the second book you're like oh this is hot because they're both consenting yeah they're both into it and you know the will they won't they and friends to enemies is what or enemies to lovers is what is my favorite so that's when i realized why i didn't really like the second yeah i completely agree with that yeah yeah i think i think it's also the the line from season
Starting point is 00:17:52 three that stands out right with like the featherington dotting sisters being like put what where like that was daphne's mo for the first season of correct this is how this works and like there is a little bit of romantic aspect to it and maybe it's just because of the chemistry of the actors but yeah when you look at it from more of an outsider perspective it's like oh there's a lot more education here than there is any sort of uh equal dynamic for sure and also like so i'm a big reader as well and i was thinking about reading them and i'm like an avid goodreads user. Like I review every book and I, whatever. I'm like very, I'm a big reader. And I went to look at the Bridgerton ones and the Goodreads reviews on the
Starting point is 00:18:32 Daphne Duke one are like outrage because of rape. Because when she is like sitting on him, like, no, no, I don't want to, you know, bust a nut in you can i say that on this show you did fine you already did like no that nut is busted and that nut busted and and anyway so the readers were like this is not okay and i was like i didn't even think about that when i was watching it i was just like aha she's gonna have a baby yeah no of course yeah I immediately we are in another life podcasted about Bridgerton and yeah that the reviews were low-key coming after us because we were like no this is not okay just because he's like attractive and your husband that you
Starting point is 00:19:20 can't do stuff like this so no I'm with the arc turn yeah so that's I think the issue necessarily but season two again unfortunately book is better whatever guys get over it I'm a reader and but that's again I just feel it's an exciting escapism and it feels like they're just older people yeah yeah it always does it always it's always it's like the buzzfeed articles that are like how old are these actors in real life and it's like playing a 12 year old is 36 and you're like me with never have i ever yeah hannah montana's brother yes like weirdly old and then like the nickelodeon documentary comes out even though it was disney and you're like oh no yeah that guy was in his 30s i think while he was on that show oh yeah yeah um did you did either of you watch never have i ever no i watched the first season
Starting point is 00:20:14 no it's no book the mindy kaling show oh i was thinking of all the boys i loved yes yes fair fair fair great another great movie. But no, never have I ever, Paxton Hall Yoshida, who is the hottie that the main character likes, season one, so I'm not spoiling anything, who the main character proposes sex to, actually,
Starting point is 00:20:38 to take her virginity. Yes, he's a hot jock, and she's like, corners him after swim practice, and is like, so you want to meet up, Tess? Mind you, this Davey mess has no idea about the world. And he's like, okay, come over.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And then she's like, oh, actually, I don't want this on your food. That's so valid. Yeah. But she, anyway, so I think you would like it. You should watch it um and it's it's a quick 30 minute like shows anyway but he plays yeah he's 30 something now um and and she was a teenager like she was 17 when she was supposed to play yeah and they were kissing remember also like the outrage that happened in season eight, maybe, of Game of Thrones,
Starting point is 00:21:28 where Arya Stark, who like we've watched grow up from this baby. I don't remember. Do you actually see her boobs or is she just like naked from the back? I don't know, but she's about to bang someone. And people were like not okay with it. And I was like, come on, everyone's about to maybe die. Like, it's okay. But it's like like we're sexualizing
Starting point is 00:21:45 and it's like people have sex so we didn't see her nips that would have felt different and if we did I take it back sorry no I don't think I don't think we did it was just I remember yeah it being odd because it's like I don't know it's almost like uh we're not they're like uncles and aunts but we're like we're sort of the family friend uncles and aunts it's like well I watched you grow up and now I have to see you do this. That's not what I signed off on. You're just that little girl that liked to play with Cereal Pharrell
Starting point is 00:22:11 in King's Landing this entire time. But also like, listen, I think we already kind of crossed that bridge when she was just like mercilessly slitting people's throats. Which like weirdly is more okay than sex. But also like season one, episode one, we're watching a teenage Daenerys
Starting point is 00:22:25 get raped and we all kept watching yep did you watch or I'm sure maybe at least an episode I'm sure everyone has watched that 70s show right where Mila Kunis lies about her age oh yeah because she's 16 um and they had to tell her like just lie that you're 16 because this is crazy and everyone else obviously much older ashton clinton yeah and now look there that's how she found the guy they're happily together with their unbathed children why was it storybook ending yes sorry question you didn't know this yeah do you not know that social media so i don't like know a lot yeah so i believe it was what last year sasha like mila kunis and actually just last year maybe they did an interview where they were like uh they bathed their children every like three or
Starting point is 00:23:16 four days and then it like came a whole bunch of i feel like celebrities came out and was like yeah we don't 2021 yes Dax Shepard's podcast and they again and they go yeah they talked about bathing and blah blah blah and how they think bathing their kids is so
Starting point is 00:23:40 dumb wow I didn't bathe for three days on Survivor and that was traumatic yeah and then she like went on ellen to defend it like it's so funny like interesting i didn't know that was a thing and i feel more well-rounded as a human now that i know well it's like the the inner monologue question that came up like a couple years ago where it's like do you realize a frightening amount of people in the world either like do or don't believe it to Sasha's
Starting point is 00:24:08 point like I believe the quote that was said when they were talking about it on Dax's podcast like Dax kind of normalized he's like yeah unless I see dirt on my kids unless they're covered in grime I don't wash them either and it's like am I am I the insane one or are all these other very rich people the insane ones
Starting point is 00:24:23 right they can afford good health care there's a difference it's true that's true oh my god it just again comes back to bridgeton right but it's not actually but where all these folks um especially i think the british learned hygiene when they started colonizing all these other countries and uh i don't know if you've seen shogun but there's a whole amazing storyline in shogun because it's this white male and he's like do you want to shower because it's obvious he smells like everyone's struggling and this british guy and they're just like maybe we get him to just go in the water. Yeah. He's like, he's like, he's like, well, I took a shower three days ago. I don't need to shower again.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And these Japanese, like these feudal Japanese people are in. You could tell they're incensed. Oh, God. Do I need to watch Shogun? I think you should. Yeah. I mean, listen, the Emmy voters say yes, considering that they just won wholesale in so many ways. I think you should yeah you could I mean listen the Emmy voters say yes considering that they just won uh wholesale in so many ways I I think so I think you'd really enjoy it I mean you're
Starting point is 00:25:31 it's you know the biggest barrier to entry is probably that so much of it is in Japanese and so you're relying a lot on subtitles but like that's a low bar to clear my opinion yeah yeah I watch most shows with subtitles anyway I feel like i can't hear what you're saying there we go there we go you're among friends especially the british shows like anything oh yeah i need subtitles get groceries delivered across the gta from Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC Optimum Points. Visit superstore.ca to get started. Side note, here's a show I watched recently that a friend told me to watch that I just like had never really heard about.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And it was so good. And I feel like more more people need to watch it. The Sex Lives of College Girls. Oh, yeah. Where was that? OK, so if you like that, you need to watch Never Have I Ever. That's a high school version, like with only one Indian girl. But still, she's also with a white man, Mindy. But you will pay for your time um but yes
Starting point is 00:26:47 who is your favorite I'm sure I mean so listen I am a musical theater Broadway yes like my whole got like Hamilton post I am like I am musical theater and Rene Rapp I mean makes me question my sexuality on the reg. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, Leighton. I love it. So then I have to ask, what'd you think of the musical episode of Grey's?
Starting point is 00:27:16 Okay, a random musical episode is hit or miss. One of my favorite shows of all time, most profound impact, is Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Yes. I am. It's gotta be. And the musical episode of Buffy went hard okay it went hard yeah I will stand by that forever and it was so freaking good the Grey's musical episode I didn't hate it but I didn't love it and also some of them can't sing come right so you're like oh it's like Russell Crowe in Les Mis and you're just like
Starting point is 00:27:44 there's this great YouTube video of like behind the scenes before maybe the Oscars or the Tonys. It's the whole cast of Les Mis singing. And then Russell Crowe. And someone is like tapping to the beat and he's still singing off beat, like not in time with the music. A little bit off key. And you're just like Russell get it together I as someone that can't sing and has great respect for people that can sing playback singing what's going on have someone else sing it again Bollywood that's all they do
Starting point is 00:28:18 none of those actors can sing so I will never when I moved to America, again, very confused as to why these people need to sing and dance and do everything on. It's okay. Just make that a person favorite. There's a YouTube video. I have to look it up, but I forget it. We're like, they go in depth into the issue that they did with that movie where obviously it was like, okay, we're, they're going to be playing live alongside the actors so the actors can really feel their way through it and they can rephrase things if they want to
Starting point is 00:28:49 and how it just like leads to terrible musicality because instead of a backing track, now it's just all over the place because, oh, so-and-so decides to take a breath in this take as opposed to the next take. And as a result, now it's all thrown off. Interesting. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:04 They're just rock and roll musicals. I mean, Les Mis and shows. The love of my life outside of my husband. His name is Aaron Tveit. Oh, yeah. He's a Broadway star, but he was also in Les Mis, the curly haired one. And he was also Nate Vanderbilt's cousin in the original Gossip Girl. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Trip Vanderbilt. Oh, my God. Yeah, so I have only seen two episodes of Gossip Girl in my life, and one of them involved Aaron Tveit in there. And I was like, Aaron Tveit was on this? Oh, my God. I saw him live in New York when he reprised his role as Christian in Moulin Rouge. And I had a serious experience. Which time? Like for the seventh or eighth time no not this most recent time unfortunately
Starting point is 00:29:50 last time oh my god I said Cuba getting Cuba getting junior in Moulin Rouge in London wild who did he play the main character I forget the name he can sing yeah it was good I enjoyed it I don't know that he can like sing but it was good i have a weird cuba thing and i feel badly that i think about this every time i think about him now because like pearl harper's one of my all-time faves and like yeah there's a video i think i watched it on i don't think it was on last week tonight it was on a scripted variety show and it's cuba gooding jr at a night club with the microphone in his hand in front of everyone and my husband and i say this all the
Starting point is 00:30:30 time this is really fucked up and you might have to edit it out he just goes somebody sucked that baby's dick and that's all i can ever think about with cuba gooding jr that's crazy was there any context was there a yeah i've never context, but I'm always just like, somebody sucked that baby's dick. Wait, shut up. That's the new show me the money. Impossible. I would need that on a t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I'll be shot in North Carolina. Yeah, you would. Yeah, that's not okay. I'm not condoning this. I'm so sorry. Oh my God, wild this we just talked about celebrities right they have a certain niche that they need to fill and that's something he needed to say they're just like us this is like the the jerry's uh seinfeld that's like cancel culture exists oh no i hate this and it's like meanwhile they're saying
Starting point is 00:31:26 all of this stuff it's true i love them i gotta ask can as as a musical theater lover uh i did this as well were were you into smash were you into glee was that what occupied your space in like the late 2000s early 2010s never seen smash in my life didn't know there was a musical aspect to it oh smash is literally about making a Marilyn Monroe musical I don't know I thought it was like about the army wait I'm dead is it like you're thinking of mash you're thinking of mash right where itASH, right? Where it's like M. I have not seen either of them. That's MASH. I've never heard of SMASH somehow in my life, ever.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Wow. Okay, so SMASH, it's starring Debra Messing, Christian Borle, Catherine McPhee, Megan Hilty. So yeah, it's them making a Angelica Houston. They're making a musical. It's not MASH. That's for sure. Alan Alda has no place in this. I mean, it's bad.
Starting point is 00:32:31 It's a very bad show, but it's delightful to watch with how bad it is. Wow. Okay, so no. And Glee, yes. Did I make my husband watch Glee as an adult? You bet it. Did he begrudgingly like it yes he did um loved glee would die for glee also representation cory montyth rest in peace uh
Starting point is 00:32:54 that episode the quarterback still um loved glee watching the documentary about glee was incredibly disturbing because and puck was my favorite character and the super hot cheerleader. I mean, it's like so many of them have died. Yeah. Well, I mean, also speaking of Puck, talk about a person who's like 28 playing a 16 year old on TV. Yeah, but I did love Glee when it came out. I loved Glee as an adult.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I will sing Glee. I mean, the Glee version of Don't Stop Believin' I love that I did you have a show speaking of all these I feel like it's just taking me back did you have a show um or have a show rather I should say comfort show that you feel like you always reach for I think if I'm going through something like the last time I'm trying to think of the last time I went through like a breakup or something where i was like i am unwell oh i guess survivor airing i was pretty unwell and i couldn't watch survivor for a while but what did i go to when did i re-watch buffy i think i might have re-watched buffy after survivor because i became friends with one of the hosts of oh fuck what's the survivor podcast drop your buffs oh yeah i sent
Starting point is 00:34:07 him a picture of myself sobbing i think during the series finale because the co-host wrote a book about buffy and so we like bonded anyway it's a whole thing um i think buffy would be a comfort show if i really needed something i mean i haven't reverted back to like Dawson's Creek but I watched that after a breakup once I think the office always like I know millennials are like Harry Potter in the office but like yeah that's my fucking reality so yeah but now there's a new office coming to Australia maybe that'll be the Gen Z basic show to turn to oh interesting interesting yeah yeah yeah they just put out a teaser for it i saw it yesterday that like it's not as much of a copy paste as like the original episodes of the
Starting point is 00:34:54 office us were for the uk but it's like very uh incredibly similar structure boss stick up their ass uh kiss ass number one the couple that's will they won't they what's interesting though is they're built bringing in a little bit of like 2020 stuff to it like they're like okay now i want to announce we're all fully back in office 24 7 so like that's going to be interesting because it'll be like a reboot but also an updated scenes okay i might have to watch that i just noticed i literally have a michael scott thing right there yeah is it the star wars michael scott it's the you miss 100 of the shows let's say yeah wayne gretzky yeah it was a gift but yeah um yeah so i would say like buffy
Starting point is 00:35:39 the office like something light arrested development even something to just like bring me back but also like I know I know it all so well that it's just like were you team angel or team spike and buffy can you guess based on like my whole affect I mean I would say I'd probably say team spike yeah that's why I would have again I'm sorry i've brought this up now like four times but a little rapey in one episode okay straight up rape sorry in one episode you can edit out every time i say rape on this podcast um but teen spike forever i got a cameo from him for my mom not that long ago and like he's old though and it's weird i know people age but it was jarring vampires don't, though. Vampires don't.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Weird throwback, which you probably haven't seen. I'm also like a sci-fi girly. Rewatch for comfort would be Babylon 5. And if anyone watching this has seen Babylon 5, you're a real one. Okay, so I've definitely heard of it. I haven't dabbled into it. I'm watching Battlestar Galactica for the first time the
Starting point is 00:36:45 i've never seen it i've never seen it i've only seen two seasons and it's been really really good it's just celebrating its 20th anniversary so wow on peacock smash is on peacock not mash mash might also be on peacock mash might also be on peacock i'm trying to think too of like remember old itunes i mean you can obviously still buy shows but like when I was in college I would like buy a season of a show and I'm trying to think what I still have on my iTunes yeah like with my parents credit card and then deny that it ever happened yeah I know I did I still have like the first three episodes of Mad Men like in my Apple TV account wild interesting I only went to the special sites. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I have the OC and I have Buffy. And I also have my comfort show when I was not sober and would use marijuana often was Aqua Teen Hunger Force. There we go. Okay, Sasha, do you know what this is? No. So this was like the consummate adult swim show back when adult swim
Starting point is 00:37:46 was like god oh openness I do okay no I have at least seen an episode I almost got a
Starting point is 00:37:54 meat wad tattoo and then I was like I actually still might honestly am I gonna meat wad tattoo that is so you must send us pictures he's Jewish
Starting point is 00:38:01 meat wad is Jewish hello I'm Jewish same yeah so I love this wait Mike Bloom so you must send us pictures hello I'm Jewish same yeah so I love this wait Mike Bloom are you also yeah oh my god wow rare
Starting point is 00:38:13 look at here we are should we all get group meatball tattoos right my mom would literally murder me oh my god yeah mine are past that I'm the youngest and like fair every time i get like i just got one of my dog's name on mother's day like for funsies and like no one cares anymore they're like she's too far gone listen as an only child and i'm indian and i'm
Starting point is 00:38:37 doing impossible the the mom stereotype is never beaten the allegations how many uh pop culture tattoos you have hannah obviously you put out the lost one do you have any other ones okay lost i had a stormtrooper i did find out that stormtroopers are like an allegory that might be the incorrect word for nazis so like i mean quite literally that's where the word comes from. Yeah. Yes. Anyway, I have a stormtrooper. What else do I have? I have so much random shit. No, I have a sloth.
Starting point is 00:39:10 That's not pop culture. I just love sloths. No, but I will say some people from my season have gotten survivor-related tattoos. I don't think they've come out with them, so I won't say anything about that. Here we go. Yeah, like tribe stuff. And I just fucking hate owls. I'm not getting a Lulu owl. You can't pay me tribe stuff and i just fucking hate owls i'm not getting
Starting point is 00:39:27 a lulu owl you can't pay me to get it now i hate it oh for survivor i hate owls now i forgot that the owl was on was your yeah i didn't even know i was like what are we talking about into something yeah that's when i knew that's when i knew i got the canteen the dirty sandy canteen and i saw an owl on it and i was like this is doomed from the start oh my god i thought you were about to make some drake reference and i was like yeah yeah he's not cool right now no no no i was team kendrick before all of this i'm happy to announce listen a brown jew okay i was very much like well at least i could marry him in my but i am too old comfort show degrassi let's talk about this okay i have never been able to take drake seriously because i grew up yes yes yeah you're not lying
Starting point is 00:40:14 right i had to watch it in our health class in high school what where did you go to high school we had the coolest t-shirt yeah it was like so progressive this is like going into med school because you watch grades and i'm like talk about a fictionalized version of like don't do drugs kids yes look what jt's doing when he's selling uh oxycontin to support his and liberty's baby yeah so like to me though drake is always gonna be jimmy yeah when he came out with like started from the bottom i'm like you started in Canada, my dude. Like what bottom are you talking about? We all once remember him as Aubrey Graham, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And also like the whole episode about how he can't necessarily get his peenie up because. Oh, I forgot about that episode. I think about that every time I see Drake. I'm like, I can get over that he was shot and that he was in a wheelchair. Yeah. And then he became a became a rapper wanted to like sit on it yeah yeah yeah yeah so no
Starting point is 00:41:11 oh my god did you um were you a Degrassi completionist or was there a moment of drop off I was a Degrassi not like the one with the old, like their parents, like the younger one and the one after. I think I definitely watched past the shooting. I think I might have watched it all. And then a few years ago, I found out that the entire show before they put it on, whatever they put it on, maybe HBO Max was on YouTube, like just full episodes. I was just re-watching it. And it's like episode one, season one, eating disorder. And I was like was like oh we really
Starting point is 00:41:45 just got right into it huh oh my god do you ever re-watch this stuff and be like i really watched this as a kid like no problem yeah yeah who let me watch a lot of the things that i consumed literally all of it all that all of the above yeah i mean that's the thing though we had degrassi does this generation have euphoria now is that their degrassi yes and euphoria is way worse i mean euphoria is such a well-done show i am like a zendaya stan forever and um it's just so well done the acting is incredible it is so disturbing like even as a fully formed like my brain is developed and I have like coping skills and like community like I am okay today and I'm watching it and I'm like yeah doing drugs
Starting point is 00:42:31 like that putting glitter on my face seems legit and it's like no Hannah you learned this the hard way and so I just feel for a lot of people use euphoria as their diagnostic case conceptualization in that class wow and drake is a producer on i did not know this somebody i don't even want to ask that's why this song yeah that's why uh kendrick's one of the songs is called euphoria but what did the i didn't know you're everyone i don't want to wow i don't know i don't i don't want to think about this i can introduce drake is everywhere oh my god i in my mind i was like oh yeah because he did degrassi so euphoria makes they are not the same they are not the same oh my god yeah Degrassi it's very like it really is high school like
Starting point is 00:43:26 disturbed disturbing but it's so much more innocent in so many ways euphoria is like I'm gonna go on this app and meet this scary older man and get railed at drugs it's just different it's just different yeah I think I think euphoria maybe it's maybe it's down to the number of episodes in a season like euphoria has a short episode so that could cram the number of episodes in a season. Like Euphoria has a short episode, so they had to cram a lot of problems in there. Whereas Degrassi, it's like, okay, this week, Liberty has dyscalculia. And then in the next episode, we'll have, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:55 Manny and Craig having sex and her having to get an abortion. Yes, or Manny wearing a thong. Oh, that outfit? That has like, I don't know. I'm pretty sure I was like, I need to go to Victoria's Secret after that. I has like, I don't know. I'm pretty sure I was like, I need to go to Victoria's Secret after that. I was like, I need that. Even though it's not cute now.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And now as an older, I'm like, that's so uncomfortable. What are people like? How do you sit comfortably? Well, listen, when you're young, I don't think anything matters. Nothing matters. Nothing matters. God, Manny Santos.
Starting point is 00:44:26 What a girl. I also loved when, because it's sort of like in the Disney mold, right? Where it's like, okay, we're going to try everybody out as a singer. Like you sort of have a backdoor singing career when you were on the Disney channel. They kind of did that with Degrassi.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Like they did that with Manny. Obviously Craig had like Downtown Sasquatch was the name of their band that they're like okay you're you're an out now musician now what a reference how he was so annoying I really hated Craig every time he was on screen I needed him to move didn't he have an abusive dad yeah he did yeah I took my pulled on my heartstrings you know I was like the makings of a therapist these shows you're like I just want to help them side note I haven't said this so when I met you first Mike Bloom um I was still very much a therapist but I had started transitioning my clients out because I didn't want to continue working with clients after they
Starting point is 00:45:21 see me half naked crying on an island it just seems unprofessional i know ellie and dory did it but like and um yeah so i so technically i am a therapist but i haven't seen clients since before survivor i have not provided therapeutic services oh wow yeah transitioned out of there i was also super burnt out so i was like right here but that's fair yeah yeah everyone's always like well you're a therapist i'm like like am i like i am but like am i you know no you meant more of like a you you worked with people but now you work with people in a different way more of a management role i am a ce uh-huh uh love that i'm just i'm just reading up on downtown sasquatch i forgot that spinner spinner was the drummer but then they kicked but then they kicked him out because he was responsible for the aforementioned jimmy getting
Starting point is 00:46:10 shot in the back and they're like that's it you're out of the band that's a pretty valid boundary also as much as i'm not like i do know like every drake song and like fuck with drake even though i'm like boo um remember when he came out with 50 000 on my neck with disrespect i'm upset remember when he came out i'm upset i'm upset i see the music video that's how it opened was him and spinner and they ended it with the basketball song. Whatever it takes. Mm. Mm. Fuck. What? I know I can make it through. This is why, listen, Drake is Drake lost and he shouldn't have lost,
Starting point is 00:46:52 right? Like he's problematic, period. All of this. Okay. Yes. I want to hold that. And he, this is why he's the, like the summer hit maker because he just knows how to get the right beat get the right thing in front of you.
Starting point is 00:47:07 He knew what he was doing. Nostalgia is in. Nostalgia baby. There we go. I am a nostalgia girl. I was so excited. I can literally see the music video. That's how many times it's seen. I want to dress like them. I want to be them. I want to go to Degrassi. I want to be Canadian.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Side note. speaking of a theme song that's a bop yes there are two okay one of them i believe it's also fully subtitled and i haven't watched it but my husband watched it and so i bopped every time the theme song came on i would come into the living room and dance in front of the screen tehran tehran tehran like the capital of yeah I was gonna say Like the capital Yes okay That theme song goes hard
Starting point is 00:47:48 And I listen to it in my car And then secondly And probably more Receptive to the people Succession Yes Mike will tell you There's a rap song And someone laid that tune on it
Starting point is 00:48:02 And I'm like You know It's Oh I was gonna say when you talk about the rap song i was thinking about a very different rap song that's associated with succession what song l to the og baby oh oh oh my god it's good i know i like it because I'm like a bunch of older white dudes. That's exactly why I didn't want to watch it. Let me just say, so I had Brooke from The Amazing Race on here a few weeks ago and I publicly recommended it to her. Since then, in a two-week period, she blitzed through the entire thing and texted me her thoughts throughout and was like,
Starting point is 00:48:40 oh, I'm so glad I watched this. This is incredible. So yeah, that's about it. Okay, yes, this is the show so i watched the first two episodes or something like that with my my mom and it was that like ejaculation oh yeah where i'm a colleague brother Brother. Yeah. Does the whole thing. And I'm just, my mom was like, but what is the reason? But what power.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Americans, they just have to do this like weird sex. But that's like, that's the thing though, is that like, I honestly feel like succession is one of the best representations of American culture I have ever seen. That's fair
Starting point is 00:49:25 primarily based in like greed and constantly like calling yeah you know pulling yourself up by dragging other people down capitalism to your point uh like soaking the flames of media like it is really sounds like survivor to me which is why i didn't fit into it also speaking of another show that i was like i'm not gonna like this because it's a bunch of old white men riding horses yellowstone baby 10 out of 10 oh my really so i watched the other um who is the creator writer of yellow so actually taylor sheridan thank. So I watched the other Taylor Sheridan show to cover it on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Also, shout out Tulsa Gang because I'm from Tulsa. And he literally lives, sorry, this is such a side note, but he, Sylvester Sloan, the place he's supposed to live in is the hotel I got married at. So every time he's like going into the mail, I'm like live in is the hotel I got married at so every time he's like
Starting point is 00:50:26 going into the mail I'm like this is crazy because I have that same exact amazing I was like I also have that drone shot of me walking because my videographer did that is so exciting I feel like when you see a place that you've been or have existed in in a show it's like the best thing ever that is how i fought for all of love island usa yes ariana maddox because it was filmed lioness that i lived at for a freaking month oh my god that's wild and i was like i've been there i hung out there i did nothing there i didn't regret quitting there like it was just it was phenomenal so that's so cool i've never seen tulsa keg i might have to it's so then what was the what was the other show you were talking about lioness it was like lioness was on a show and you can lioness is coming back i did i
Starting point is 00:51:16 i hate watched it in that i found it very funny it's not a funny show it's the fbi cia special ops it's literally special ops lioness. Nicole Kidman's in it. So you're like, this is going to be a great serious show. Zoe Saldana, right? Like you're just like, wow, it's going to be good. Y'all, it's written. You could just tell.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Before I knew who wrote it, you could just tell that it's written by a man, a white man via the lens, you know, and trying to like make it work for the a woman of color a black woman whatever you want to say oh no and yellowstone is good yeah so that's why i never went back to watch yellowstone because i was so annoyed by speaking of white men can you name this reference and from what show and who said it? A white man? No.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Oh, it's Schmidt from New Girl. I love you. Yeah, I was going to be like, it's either New Girl or what's that cartoon? Shoot. Where they're in Texas. Oh, King of the Hill? King of the Hill. I mean, that does sound like a Dale Gribble line.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Yeah. A white man. A white man? Well, that's man well that's the thing though speaking of emmys lamorne morris ends up winning for fargo and everyone's like well this is more so trying to make up for the fact that he was never even nominated as winston bishop from new girls frank sinatra new girl is also one of the best shots oh my god when i know what i have been down now uh the wayans brother like wayans family uh like and been watching all you've been watching again right for papa's house sasha basically i think i'm gonna watch papa's house because marlin right goes on shannon sharp shout out which shannon sharp live stream was he on um i don't know if you know shannon
Starting point is 00:53:06 sharp was caught uh in intimate affairs on a live stream on instagram last week okay thank you for letting me know because he was barking and every shannon is a man yes shannon is a man he is a ex-nfl football player or ex-nfl is he the one with gap in his teeth? that's a skip I don't know does he have a gap? you're thinking of Michael Strahan oh yes no no no Shannon Sharp yeah no but anyway he's a football player
Starting point is 00:53:37 commentator all this stuff but he also has this podcast where all these very famous mostly black celebrities have gone on and just like portal to whatever has been open because Cat Williams went on it this into January. And since then, everything has just been in a tornado. Like Cat Williams in January said Diddy is going to like he's gonna get what's
Starting point is 00:54:06 coming for him soon and like yeah like he like noted every single thing that was gonna happen yep so that's why every williams is psychic question mark who knows uh but no the reason they brought that up is because yeah the wayans brothers um so marlon went on it to like promote his thing and then he started talking about um how New Girl and Lamont Harris like all these people were um feel like now the third generation of the Wayans family almost um yeah and it's well yeah because yeah because Lamorne was on New Girl with Damon yes with Damon so yeah and when um Lamont was um doing the either Jimmy Kimmel show you know one of the late night shows Marlon goes on and like just drags him the whole time and he's like you know I'm not like
Starting point is 00:54:53 your nephew right I was just on a show with him called New Girl that's so good yeah so I just I love like anything New Girl and I just like I I don't know. It's what a great show. I've watched it so many times. Same. Also good comfort show. I think it's a really good comfort show. Correct. Well, Hannah, we were so happy to welcome you into our family.
Starting point is 00:55:16 This was such a great time. Is there anything else you want to say? Anything you want to plug? Any shows that you're already diving into on your like-to-watch list that are left in your queue? We're watching The Perfect Couple right now just because I read it and so I've been waiting to watch it. I mean, anything Nicole Kidman touches. Presumed Innocent, so good.
Starting point is 00:55:37 A one-season banger like Hijack with Idris Elba. One-season bangers go hard. Also, anything on Apple TV Plus, like Severance. I need to talk to someone about the last episode of Severance. Oh, well. I'm still shook from it.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Listen, we might have to have the conversation on a different day, at least before it comes back next year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, thank you for having me. This is like, I could talk about this forever and it makes me,
Starting point is 00:56:02 it's like, yeah, I am more than just that girl that cried and quit Survivor. Period. I'm a show, I'm a soar. Yeah. Absolutely. And thank you for showing off some of your exquisite taste today.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Sasha, anything you'd like to plug today? Yes. As always, if you want to know why something's trending, why something's going on, you need to check out Mess Magnets with Kirsten McInnes. And I are talking celebrity gossip and everything else we just covered um the secret lives of mormon wives so if you want to know more listen it's on the rob has a podcast youtube channel we we went on youtube this time
Starting point is 00:56:39 and if not just go to mess magnets.com now i believe we have our own website oh my god side note I need to watch and listen to it because I don't know anything about anything that's happening they are your teachers we just we end up I will say like the plug is because we are very passionate about this work
Starting point is 00:56:59 so we end up doing like a lot of research like it's a true crime podcast but it's not but we're both true crime junkies. So that's how I don't know. I don't know how to explain it, but that's what we end up doing. That sounds amazing. But yeah, we're very messy. So vibes only podcast.
Starting point is 00:57:15 But we actually do a bunch of research on it. So, yes, please check it out. I think it was really fun and silly. And then we have we end it with a listener submitted anonymous. So, yes. So our messengers are killing it. They always send us the best ridiculous mess and it is Rob's favorite segment.
Starting point is 00:57:36 So here we are. And of course, Chappelle and I are still talking below deck. We're almost at the finale, everyone. Oh, are you a fan hannah every time everyone is a sailor oh my god i love that show it's literally my favorite um i think i've watched almost every season uh if not for sure every episode but yeah so we're still talking below deck med honestly city girls are down right now,
Starting point is 00:58:05 unfortunately, because of these stews. But here we are, okay? Check it out. And again, we will go live on the Robbins Podcast YouTube channel or the below deck rehab ups feed. I believe it's still called that. And for, oh, and listen, Mike,
Starting point is 00:58:23 we're picking up the mantle that you put down. But Matt Liguori, Brandon Donovan, and I, yes, are just, are going to talk the premiere episode of Dancing with the Stars. Oh, yes. So Brandon. I know, exactly.
Starting point is 00:58:41 So I'm excited. Listen, Phaedra's on. Phaedra, and also a little bit of mess magnets there as well. If you could talk about some of the trouble that maybe some of the pros have gotten in. Period. Little Miss Ankle bracelet. Okay. Can't wait.
Starting point is 00:58:56 So check all of that out. And check out my Twitter at funsize underscore 04 to keep track of everything else. What about you, Mike? So Survivor is back up. I talked with the newest first food to join Miss Hannah Rose. Doing the B&B with Liana and Gabby Pescusi should be a lot of fun. So covering Big Brother and the challenge as that is happening. But over on the scripted side of things, of course, we started this podcast with loss.
Starting point is 00:59:21 We'll end it with loss. Josh Wigler and I are still doing our run through of lost the season at a time for first time watchers for those that have checked it out on netflix and nothing else hannah listen if you want to get into lost podcasting we have about three three hundred hours of podcasts for you on down the hatch where we spoiler filled rewatch copiously through so so good like obviously my phone saying it but i will down the hatch down the hatch it's myself and josh wiggler and so you can check that out but right now we're also putting forward uh you know a little bit of like a a dalliance through laws for first-time watchers as well the chapelles of the world that just came into it for the first time and then actually some
Starting point is 01:00:01 new coverage to announce i will be uh doing episodic recaps of the penguin which is debuting on max tonight september 19th and then episode two is coming like september 29th they're doing a little bit of an early premiere but myself and grace leader are going to be doing episodic recaps of that i'm very intrigued by it colin farrell it's a role that he said he never wants to do again after this so we'll see if it's just prosthetics or if it's more than skin deep so we'll be sure to get into that and of course tv for real sasha and i'll be back next week with another reality tv alum talking their taste in scripted tv thank you all so much for listening hannah thank you so so much thanks for having me thank you we'll be back next week with more reality TV
Starting point is 01:00:45 alum talking scripted TV. Until next time, everybody, it's been real.

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