RHAP: We Know Survivor - Kaôh F***ing Rong Rewatch Ep 10

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

Kaôh F***ing Rong Rewatch Ep 10 Survivor: Kaôh R?ng heats up as Rob Cesternino and Chappell return for another episode of Kaôh F***ing Rong, diving straight into one of the most unforgettable Tribal Councils of the season. With idols flying, alliances fracturing, and a super idol twist hanging in the balance, the episode spotlights Tai’s game-changing decision not to play the super idol for Scott Pollard—sending shockwaves through camp and landing Scott on the jury with a hidden idol still in his pocket. Rob and Chappell dig deep into the mechanics and missteps of the Scott, Jason, and Tai trio, dissecting how a group armed with three idols and numbers still winds up outmaneuvered by the opposing alliance. The hosts highlight Aubry’s impressive strategic and social gameplay, noting her quiet but crucial efforts to sway Tai and drive the vote, while Julia’s double-agent play nearly seizes control for the other side. The show takes a look at the Survivor editors’ role in crafting suspense, transforming a straightforward blindside into pure television gold. Rob and Chappell don’t shy away from discussing the edit’s effect on perceptions of Aubry and Michele, and they dig into the vital questions of who’s really reading the game correctly. Key points include: – Tai’s hesitation in playing the super idol and its fallout for Scott and Jason – How three idols failed to protect the alliance in back-to-back blindsides – Aubry’s sneakily effective pitch to Tai and her evolving edit as a potential winner – Julia’s risky maneuvers as the season’s double agent and her strategic split-vote plan – The absence of a loved ones visit and the surprisingly plentiful food rewards this season With blindsides mounting and lines redrawn in the sand, Rob and Chappell question whether the big players are keeping up with the fast-evolving game or if another shocker is just one vote away. Can Aubry continue her strategic surge, or will Michele and Julia flip the script? Don’t miss this wild ride through the chaos of Kaôh F*ing Rong—tune in and get your fix of Survivor’s messiest moves yet! Chapters: 0:00 Classic Episode: Scott Blindsided 1:14 Survivor Editors Build Idol Drama 3:15 Three Amigos Miss Idol Play 5:13 Jason and Scott’s Blindside Streak 7:00 Aubry’s Strategic Winner Edit 10:08 Aubry Persuades Tai to Flip 13:29 Scott and Jason’s Endgame Delusions 17:03 Aubry’s Social Game Debate 19:00 Scott Tries to Intimidate Aubry 21:00 Unique Reward Challenge Format 24:05 Food, Injuries, and Impressions 28:00 Aubry and Michele in Challenges 33:31 Ko Rong Lacks Loved Ones Visit 41:40 Immunity Showdown: Aubry vs. Jason 44:44 Idol Fumble: Scott Leaves With Idol 52:30 Scott’s Exit: Villain Assessed To order Rob’s book, The Tribe and I Have Spoken, visit www.robhasabook.com Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

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Save up to 52% with the code podcast at grooens.co. That's code podcast at g-r-un-s.com. Hey everybody. What's going on? Rob Cisbury, we're back. Oh, effing wrong. Episode number 10. And a classic tonight as Ty does not play the super idol. And Scott Pollard goes home and here to talk about it with us. It's Chappelle. Chappelle, how are you? I'm great. I feel like super energized after that episode of Survivor. A really, really good one. A dream. moment in the season where you're waiting for Ty. What's he going to do? Is he going to play the idol on himself? Is he going to play the idol on Scott?

And then everybody's waiting. And it seemed like a very pregnant pause. Everybody's looking around, looking at Ty, looking at Ty, looking at Ty. And then eventually he's like, no. I don't think so. No, not doing that. Not doing that. Kudos to the Survivor editors.

I think they are the ones who should get a lot of credit for this. because I think that that moment where Ty is waiting or they're waiting to see if Ty will play the idol on Scott, I think that's a nothing burger. I think there's nothing there. You know, Ty voted for him. He's not going to then go and save him after voting for him. That doesn't make any sense.

But the editors really like kind of like gloss over that part and just lean into like a, hey, Ty, why don't you just stand up and do a thing? And they cut to Scott looking like, hey, don't you want to save me? It's like he voted for you. He's not going to see. save you. And then on top of that, Rob, just last episode, we had to Rochambeau and then stand up and here, Ty, accept my idol. I am Thai and I am accepting the idol and I am sitting down. What is that? Where's all that energy? Now Ty can just like have part of it and then we find

out Scott has part of it. What are the rules here? I feel like there was less of this going on in the game, but the show really kind of leans into the drama and it worked 100%. Yeah. It's really well done. We still don't really know how the rules we played as we were talking about yesterday of how we even played the Super Idol. It does seem like, from Scott's vantage point, that Ty could save

him with the other half of the idol. Scott is voted out of the game with Jason's idol. So the other idol is gone. Yeah, but if I'm Scott in this moment, I'm standing up and saying I have half of the Super Idol.

Ty, are you with me? me. But instead we kind of get this like, like you said, this pause where we're looking at Ty, like, Ty, don't you have anything? Don't you have something you want to tell the people? Like, Scott, you also have half of the idol. It takes to the tango here. Get up, walk over to Jeff with your idol out and be like, and put the pressure on Ty. You know, like, hey, Ty, come over here because you owe me this because I helped you get that. You know, something like that.

I just felt like there was more there that he could have done in the moment. And then to find out that he actually could have just played an idol on himself, this wouldn't be a conversation. Yeah. I guess we're getting everything from Scott and Jason's point of view, the two people who get blindsided at this tribal council. I was shocked to see that he got voted out with that idol in his hand, because you would think that we get to the tribal council. We know that, I mean, I just feel like this is elementary survivor. One of the three of us is safe. We have two idols. You play yours.

I play mine. We're all safe. Or, hold on, three amigos is this thing. wear the things around your neck and say, who are y'all going to vote for? We all have an idol. We're all immune. Now, Aubrey is not going to risk Michelle and Julia voting her out. So her, Sydney, and Joe

probably all vote for Julia in that moment. But it doesn't matter because the boys are going to vote with Julia and vote out Aubrey or Sydney. And then she goes home. How did they fumble this? You had three idols. Yeah, they didn't try to do a full three amigos

here where Jason wins immunity and then Jason gives his immunity idol to Scott. Ty has another idol. The three of them could potentially have all been safe, but I think they felt like that Julia, the double agent, was voting with them. It's the final eight. I guess they felt like that they were going to have four votes on Aubrey. And then I guess they did not think that the other four people were going to all vote

together on tie? Yeah, but if Julia's voting with them, they know where everybody else is voting because Julia's in on the vote. She's the double agent. They fumbled this. They messed this up. I've been talking about how bad players

were this entire season. They were bad players. They were not good players of Survivor. This is the third consecutive tribal council in a row that Jason and Scott have been blindsided on the Nick vote. The Debbie vote,

vote, Debbie went home. It had nothing to do with them. It was not what they thought was going to happen. And then also, once again, here on this vote. Once again, to be clear, a three-person alliance had three idols, and one of them still went home. We don't talk about this enough in the boneheaded things that have happened in Survivor history.

Your entire alliance had idols. You could have played one for him. He could have played. Well, if you held, Jason could have put the idol. around your neck if he wanted to. And you still lost this? How did you fumble this? They lost tie. They lost. They don't even need him. Oh, Scott got to do is play Jason's idol for himself that he has. It'd be different if he didn't have it. If he, like, Jason had it, like, damn, it's not in my possession. There's nothing I can do. He actually gave it to him

in case they needed it. Yeah. Why not just play it? Why not? It's a good question. Yeah. When you talk about it that way, a two personal audience with an idol and immunity. necklace, you would think that it would be unlikely that one of them would go home. Yes. And here we are with three people. Now, don't you, don't get me wrong. Like you said, tie is flipped. But yeah, you come back to two and you're looking at Ty as if he is the linchpin to this working. He's not. You are. Play your idol, Ozzie. Play your idol, Bruce. Play your idol. Again, Ozzie, play your idol. Why do you sit here with, how do you sit here knowing you getting votes on you and not playing the idol? This is crazy.

And then the idea that you're going to wait for the super idol thing. Why wait for the super idol when you could just play the idol? You don't need this to wait on a super idol. What is the point? Did Julia tell them that they were voting for Scott? Yeah, we get a scene where she's over there being double agent. She tells them that they're voting for a tie, is I believe, what she said. Julia tells them the girls are voting for tie.

And Julia is correct. Michelle and Julia are voting for tie. But Aubrey has other plans. And this is really, like, we've been talking about it off and all, Aubrey's gameplay here and there. But, I mean, peak Aubrey right here, right? Like, she completely just demands this episode. Like, it's everything you would want from somebody.

And it feels like if you're going to give somebody a winner at it, this is how one looks, right? Now, in contrast, I don't think Michelle got a confessional in this episode. If she did, maybe one. I think that, and as I'm looking at the vote chart here, so Aubrey, Sydney, Joe, and Ty are the four people that vote for Scott. It seems like that I think Michelle and Julia got left out of the plan. They did. They did.

And so when we talk about Michelle and her winner edit, it's not a 360-degree edit. They want to show Michelle looking good. And so I think we're just not seeing Michelle and not because she had nothing to say because she wasn't doing anything. I think it was because that she was just not giving confessionals about what was about to happen.

Exactly. And this is one of those other smoking guns that get the edged people going, right? Because Michelle is blindsided here. But we never see Michelle's point of view at all. You know, Julia, we see her point of view. We know exactly what she wants to do. It's completely opposite of what everything Debbie told us in the exit press. But for some reason, we get everything that Julia is thinking in this episode

because Julia is in danger. But you know who's not in danger? Michelle, her name never comes up as a potential vote either here. Nobody's ever said they wanted to vote out Michelle in this episode. We don't find out who Michelle wants to vote for if she has any thoughts or ideas about it. But it's kind of like not having any content there is enough to be like, okay, maybe we're protecting her from something, right? We don't want our winner to look like they don't know what they're talking about. And I think that in the next episode that I haven't, watched ahead outside of Wayne. Same. It was airing. We did the 40 season countdown. I think that Michelle's real

stretch run starts to kick off next week. Absolutely. You know, we know that she's going to actually have a really good immunity run there as well. And so I'm very excited to see it from like the show's standpoint. But yeah, if you're reading the edict, you're looking at Aubrey. Well, first of all, if you're watching this with the naked eye, right? Like, just blind eye fan of the show watching the show, you're like, damn, Aubrey can do no wrong. But if you're looking for the mistakes Michelle is making? Where was the mistake? You know, it looks like she's left out of the vote, but the show doesn't really talk about it, you know? So, yeah, these two things are happening simultaneously, and slowly the fan base is starting to split and have.

Yeah. And in the real time, I watched the Survivor Know It Alls. And in the real time, I really was feeling the, like, this is Aubrey's story. This is Aubrey Rising. It was a really good episode for Aubrey, right? In this episode, you know, we see Aubrey really using her leverage over Ty. And she calls it a misconnections, you know, kind of a relationship that they have, where it looks like they want to work together, but they just haven't found the right opportunity to make it happen. So knowing that Aubrey and Ty barely have a relationship, it's very impressive what she's

able to do and the way the show depicts it, right? It's Aubrey being like, I got to get to tie. I got to get to tie. We see Aubrey like hiding in the tall grass, like a damn lioness and like talking to tie while he's standing up doing things. He's like, get down here, get down here. are you sure you want to play with these guys? Don't they suck? Look at me. We're great. You've got three people. We got your back.

You know, and it works. And so, yeah, if you're watching at home, you're like, man, put Aubrey at number one in the power rank is right now. He kind of gives the impression that he's afraid of them. And that's why he doesn't want to turn on them. Yeah, they're like, they're going to be mad at me. He's like, yeah, that sucks. I mean, to be fair, they've been showing themselves as people you should probably be weary of. Not so much like they're afraid. He's afraid they're going to hurt him. But there's just not. pleasant people when they're upset, you know, they're putting out the fire, that, yeah, they're drinking the water that you, that you gather. He's like, I don't want to, I don't feel like dealing with their attitudes is basically what he's trying to say. I don't think he feels like they're going to threaten his life, but he definitely like, if I could just live here without them stomping around here

all mad, that's ideal for Ty. And so, yeah, there's a small chance here that he doesn't go with Aubrey because he's like, I just don't want to deal with the ire of these two guys. Also, these two guys might be pretty easy to beat, Ty, if you stay with them. So maybe don't. Maybe don't betray them right here. Yeah. He mentions that in terms of that he feels like that people won't vote for them. That's a reason to stay with them.

Julia talks about that they're easy to beat. That's the reason why she wants to work with them. So everybody's looking at them as people who have no business even being in the end game. Right. And they're talking about choosing who they want in their end game. They're like, we can go. go with Ty, but what if we go with Julia? Wouldn't that be cool? I think we can beat Julie.

You cannot. You cannot beat anybody. This is one of my, like, you know. And you can't even vote for each other at that point, right? It's, this is a one of the most. And decide which one of us is going to be in the finals? This is the thing I do at the end of every season. After the votes are read, I always go through and be like, okay, who did you think you

were going to get? Right. In season 50, that was my big question for Jonathan. then okay, boom, you made it to the end, you thought you played a good game, you're sitting next to Aubrey, who are the people that you think you're going to get over Aubrey? And then when you start to list people like, Chris, I'm like, hey, hey, slow down, that you're not going to do. Oh, I thought, you know, it's like, no, you didn't think that. There's no way you should have thought that.

You had a misread on the jury. These two guys sitting here talking about who they can beat is actually crazy. Like, I think if anything, they probably should be trying to go to the end with with Ty. I think Ty is not an awful choice. I mean, I think like, we will see that, you know, maybe he gets. in trouble for being so wishy-washy. Maybe he doesn't, like, he doesn't really have a backbone if he's not willing to stand up to them. He's pouring out the fire and stuff like that. And they know tie is in on their evil plan, so maybe they can take his like social standing. But I think maybe Joe

might be another person they could beat, but I don't think they can beat any of the women, considering they keep thinking this is a women's alliance and they want the jury to be full of women that they did bullied for three episodes. I just don't think it's making sense. I think that Joe has Debbie and Aubrey. They're drawing dead at the final eight. it is crazy that they're talking about who they can go to the end with no you can't do anything be nice to people and then you can get some votes yeah so yeah maybe like they could get like Michelle and Julia and you know one of them is not in the final three you know that's

and then they could maybe get Debbie if she's salty against Aubrey or something like I wanted to vote for a woman you know the whole thing that was that's what she said the whole way so it's gonna be it's tough it's tough tough for Jason and Scott. So I will call myself out a cell phone, a very bad, bad take from me on the know-it-alls. I talked about how, look at Aubrey. She is really playing this perfectly.

At the tribal council, she is gassing up Scott and Jason and talking about how they're competitors and how Jason is talking about how Aubrey, she's got as much brawn in her as he does. She had a valiant effort against Jason in the immunity challenge when her back was against the wall. And I told Stephen as like, listen, that these guys are pissed, but they're not pissed at

Aubrey. These guys respect Aubrey. Aubrey's doing great. These guys are going to vote. They're made a tie. They would totally vote for Aubrey at the end of this game. That's not your fault. I said that.

That's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. And here's why. Because we actually have clips of them saying those exact things. You know, like, Jason is saying, Aubrey is a competitor. Aubrey is, like, I need, even when he votes for you, he says, this is because you're such a good competitor, right?

It's not a vote because, like, I want you out or, you know, I don't like you or you did something wrong. It is, you can beat me. And so I need you out of the game. But, you know, the jury votes. for one of three people, right? Essentially, one of three people is going to win the game. And so as long as Aubrey's sitting next to somebody

who they hate more, then she could win. Hopefully, she doesn't get to the end with somebody who is well-beloved by everybody. We shall see. Yeah. I feel like that this season, the narrative, I think, changed. And Aubrey has talked about this a little bit

where people fell in love with Michelle. And they said, oh, no, no, no, no. the reason why Michelle won is because Aubrey had a bad social game. Aubrey was bad at this. And so far I haven't seen that. I haven't seen a bad social game from Aubrey. No, no. I've yet to see the person,

because even if you look at the people who've been voted out so far, yeah, maybe Debbie doesn't love this. The, you know, the Aubrey movement. Michelle was in on it. But maybe she's betrayed, right? So that's a burn vote right there. We see Scott going out here. Scott and Jason seemingly had a lot of respect

for Aubrey at this point. So maybe there's something that happens in the next few days that turns them around on her. She's always going to get Joe's vote. Neal's not going to be there to save her. And so, you know what? And she loses Sydney vote for almost no reason. No doing of her own, she loses Sydney's vote. So I don't think it's ever been that Aubrey's social game wasn't strong. That doesn't really track for what we're watching. Not to say that this is an anti-Michel take in any way shape of it. I just feel like that the narrative kind of changed on this season where people went back and said, no, Aubrey actually had a bad social game. I think that the Debbie relationship didn't really go bad until Aubrey voted Debbie out.

Debbie was salty about that. But in the game, it that seemed like that was always fine. We'll see how these next couple of episodes go for Aubrey. But I think that Aubrey really struggled socially in the edge of extinction in those first couple episodes when she comes back and then gets kind of dunked on for, she's saying the same thing to all the different people in her tribe when she's trying to put this alliance together. And I almost feel like that we sort of like retcon

that Aubrey had a bad social game in Survivor Call Wrong, and that's why she loses. Yeah, I think so a little bit too. I mean, if you go back and listen to some of the things that were said after the season, you know, I think, when is it, Jason says, like, yeah, watching it back, I could see myself voting for Aubrey instead. You know, like, I think there's some,

some there. But yeah, I don't think it's bad. I think with Neil still on the jury, Aubrey has a fighting chance here at the very end against Michelle. I mean, it's very early to be talking about it right now. But, you know, Neil getting voted off takes away one of her guaranteed vote. She has another guaranteed vote with Joe. So if she can get Sidney's vote and then, or Debbie, or one of Scott and Jason, I mean, this is a different game. But look who's vote we're trying to get. We're trying to get Debbie's vote who's mad at her. And Sidney's vote, who is still a big question mark in my mind as far as like how I feel about it. I know what she said, but I don't know how I feel about it. Yeah. And she does get Nixvote. And she gets Nixvote. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying.

Like it's not, it's not like a, she's not Russell Hans. You know what I'm saying? She didn't get there with no chance to win. This lady had a good shot. Summer routines live or die by how easy they are. And honestly, if something takes too much effort, I'm out. That's why Grunes is my go-to. It's my one daily pack of gummies covering my greens, vitamins, and minerals. Plus, it has six grams of prebiotic fiber, which is more than two cups of broccoli. No mixing powders, no giant pills, no hassle. I just rip open the pack and I'm done. They taste good and they make it easy to stay on top of my health, even when life gets busy.

Save up to 52% with the code podcast at grooms.co. That's code podcast at g-r-un-s.com. Let's go back to the earlier part of the episode where we're going to see Scott go to Aubrey. They're excited. Scott and Jason are pumped up that Debbie ended up going home. And Scott comes to Aubrey with an offer. And he tries to strong arm Aubrey and says, hey, listen, like, we want things to go back to normal. We want to have harmony in the camp. Here's what we need.

Just give us Sydney. But we want Sydney on a silver platter. And then we'll stop terrorizing the camp. Sacrifice one of your closest allies. And then we will stop being mean to you. It's like, or I sacrifice my closest ally and you continue to be mean to me. Like, I don't know if this is a good deal. Aubrey, I think they wake her up in a morning with this.

She's like, it's kind of early for y'all to be talking crazy to me. And this is just another sign of who Aubrey is. She's not going to negotiate with terrorists. We don't negotiate with terrorists. And she says that they're dressing up this offer in a birthday cake, but it's still a, I forget the word she used to describe this. this act of dominance? Yeah, I think that's really what it is.

It's very domineering at the very least, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's worth a shot from Scott. But again, it's bedside manner. It's not good. He's not, you know, I think if you go to Aubrey and be like, Aubrey, I feel bad about what we did. And I really wish I could take it back.

We were mad in the moment, but we're over it. You know, is there any way we can work together? let's say you don't vote us out. Who do you want? You know, you've talked about this before. If you were at the bottom, you don't have a lot to leverage. His leveraging piece at camp when they can just vote you out. They did it.

So it's like, okay, Aubrey, you can beat us. You can beat us. You can beat us. Who do you want out? Whatever you want to do? We're not going to win the game. Look around. Nobody's going to vote for us.

There's no point in voting us out right now. But we'll work with you right now. What do you need us to do? That's the pitch here for Aubrey. And I don't even think it would work. But it's worth a shot. And look at how Aubrey handled the situation with Ty when she goes to Ty and says, well, who do you want out?

Yeah. What do you want to do? Whatever you want to do, Ty. You got three people behind you. The alliance is coming wherever you want to go. And that's how you do it. That's how you woo somebody over. Okay.

Yeah. This has been a season where there has been a lot of wrinkles in the challenge that we've thought have all been interesting. And in this challenge, we're going to have an endurance challenge. and an endurance challenge with three different rewards, that there is a reward that is for love. One person is going to win a letter from home. There's going to be also food.

It's like a burger and fries and maybe a beer. And then there's also an advantage. And so this was, I thought this was pretty cool. I can't remember another time where we had the survivors do this, where pick which thing do you want to play for and then you were only competing against the other people who were competing for the same thing. And I don't think we can do this anymore, right?

Why not? Everybody would just go for the advantage? Everybody should go for the advantage. But also, at this point in the game, it's like day 14. Did you really missing home like that? You know, like I think the letters type thing don't really have the same appeal. And remember, we go to the sanctuary now.

where good things happen. So I think that's kind of out. The question is, do people pick the food over the advantage? And now what we do is sit out for food and then everybody else just goes for whatever the letters are, you know, where the advantage is or whatever. But yeah, I like this. It was different. And it goes very quickly.

This endurance challenge that they did last like 12 minutes. Yeah. It goes by very fast. It's like a new era immunity challenge. I have not really kept track of who got what reward, but I feel like they're, eating this season. Once we got past the seasonings, the rewards have gotten a lot better.

You know, it's hard to not be better than salt and pepper. But yeah, I think last episode they had like us, was this Chinese takeout. They had ice cream as well. And they're a cheeseburger. They had a merge feast. And then we went from the merge feast to then they had, I'm trying to remember from these.

last couple episodes of then yeah they also had in one of the challenges where you could drop out of the challenge and eat and I'm trying to remember if that was the same the same time that half the people had had just had Chinese food and then you could drop out of the challenge

and then four people ate then and then they had ice cream and now there's another thing to eat yeah even the time when they could drop out it was like pizza it was an array of different items because I remember thinking, I don't want to a survivor pizza. And I was like, well, hold on. Those wings do look good.

It was like drumsticks. It wasn't even wings. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah. Good meat. Yeah. So, Joe is going to go eat soon. Oh, he's going to eat a lot.

He's going to eat a lot. Yeah, they are fed here. And I don't really know why, but I guess you owe them, right? You've been out here. They all have infections. They've been dying from heat exhaustion. You know, throw them an extra cheeseburger. I wonder if that's a thing where maybe Dr. Rupert was like,

Hey, you know what will help these people? Like, if they get some, like, three square meals. Dr. Rupert heard that they, he got the phone call yesterday. It's like, oh, so how's the day going? Oh, yeah, it was great. They enjoyed their ice cream reward. Huh? Yeah.

Yeah, they had an ice cream reward. You gave them dairy, like a lot of dairy out there. And I told you it was hot, right? Like, I told you. Yeah, but like, you know, it's Survivor. It's a celebration. It's only our 31st last second. It's easy.

I've also noticed that the contestants are more bandaged up. Aubrey has like a big bandage on her leg. Debbie, I noticed that she was having like an infection on her shoulder and then I saw that she had like been bandaged up. So I do think that they're getting a little more proactive in terms of like, hey, we've lost a lot of people so far. Sometimes it takes, you know, bumping into a wall a couple times before you figure out your path.

And I think that's really what happened here. I think a lot of the changes, again, a lot of the changes that we see. are probably going to be due to the stuff that happens in Koran. Yeah. So we're going to do the challenge. You're going to hold the urn with your leg. And we have two people competing for love. It's Julia versus Joe, our oldest contestant, our youngest contestant.

Who needs love more? Julie needs love more because Joe lasts roughly 30 seconds. Yeah. And Julia said this is the longest she's ever gone without talking to her parents. And so she wins the last. from home. It was so fast. She beat them immediately.

Yeah. Yeah. This is a very nerdy thing. There were like notes on the, all the different challenges of who is competing for what. And I noticed that there was a font that is used. Do you notice this at all? No. That there's, I don't know if it's a co-wrong font or it's just a font that we were using at this

particular point in Survivor history. Mm-hmm. It's like a Survivor font. It's like very 60s. Check it out next time you see something written. I will. I will. Wonder why they go with that.

Survivor has a font. And through most of Survivor history, we used the Survivor font, but it's something that they were trying something new out here. I don't know why, but I'll check it out. Was it, did it look cool or was it just different? It was interesting, like, where it was a font where it was like the things that hang underneath. Is that a seraph? I'm not sure. Maybe not.

Like a lowercase like G might go like the G might like underline the thing. Right, right, right. Okay. So yeah, it was the what is the decender or something like that or the tail, I guess? Yeah, a lot of tails. A lot of tails. Okay. And I don't know if that's just something specific and unique to the Co-Rong logo.

I don't know. I promise you, I never even noticed that. So I'll have to go back and take a look. I see if they were trying something here that they don't necessarily... Now, I don't see it as much in the actual Survivor Co-Rong logo, but take a look at that and see if you notice anything there. Then we play... Who is playing for the burger?

What was it? Michelle versus Jason and Scott? Yeah, and Michelle wins here. And good on her. Scott's out first, then Jason, and then she gets the burger. We see her, there's like munching along why everybody's doing it. the challenge still. Yeah, Michelle and Jason and Scott, they are always going after the food at these different rewards. I think they all jumped off at the same time to go and eat the pizza and wings

airing the last challenge. And then we have people competing for the advantage. I think it is just Aubrey and Sidney and Ty. Yes. And, you know, Aubrey, Sydney, and Ty, this is a good battle, you know, because they're all pretty good. When I think, about Aubrey, like I remember when we were doing the draft going into season 50, I think about this episode a lot when it comes to Aubrey, not so much about the strategic stuff she did, but physically, Aubrey's no slouch in the challenges. And, you know, you start to really see it here. Yeah, she's like, she's like dancing with coach, you know. But it's like, it's like right here, you can really start seeing the brawny part of her. And then, of course, they highlight it later on

when she does the second endurance challenge and it goes pretty well for her. Yeah. She comes in second in both challenges, right? Yeah, yeah, top two No, no, I don't, wait No, she came in third this time, I believe Because I think it was Tyre versus Sydney again No, it was Ty versus Aubrey, you're right

It was Ty versus Aubrey It only lasted 10 minutes The last immunity challenge was Ty versus Sydney And then this is then Aubrey goes toe to toe with Ty and loses And then Aubrey goes to toe to toe with Jason And loses

Yeah, later on Jason would be like Well, the people winning all the challenges Are me and Thai I'm like, that's not okay fine whatever you can you have you can have that yeah so tie is going to get the advantage she gets an extra vote remember when they would yeah one extra vote in the whole season deep side i mean this will not be the last time tie has a late stage advantage that will ruin my life now i'm joking this this this time it doesn't bother me but that's it that game changers one is a doozy rob

in in this year of this show being filmed there are three different uh extra vote events advantages in the mix, right? Because the show is, the show was filming before World's Apart aired or, you know, and the show. And then after, I mean, I guess it filmed before, uh, Cambodia aired. Stephen had an extra vote. Dan Foley had an extra vote. And Ty had an extra vote all back to back to back. And then I don't know if they get an extra vote in game change. I guess that's the, I was just probably. So I believe Stephen got a steal of a vote. So an extra vote here. Uh, and, And then Dan Foley had the extra vote. And then Stephen, I think, has the first ever steal a vote. And then it becomes the legacy advantage for Game Changers, like less than a year later. I think that Sarah ends up getting a legacy advantage and also the Steal of Vote. I think that if I remember correctly that Michaela sits out of the challenge in Game Changers, and that's the Steal of Vote.

And then she's mad that she's not in the challenge. and she doesn't see it, and then Sarah sees it when she gets up, gets up. Yeah, and Sarie tried to use the steal of vote. Okay, yeah, now it's making sense. Yeah, so this is around the time when we start doing these shenanigans, so I guess we should blame, no, we still got to blame words apart. We can't blame Khoran for this. The 30s really becomes, you know, I thought the 30s would be the advantage era

when we ended up, we recorded, that was the last season of the evolution strategy that we did, where we talked about the Dan Foley got the extra vote, and I really felt like, okay, well, the 30s, I think is really going to be the era of like these, like, you know, advantages being more in play. I wouldn't say it was exactly that it was. Really, that kind of became the 40s was much more of an advantage era.

Although we didn't have advantage get in in Survivor game changers. And Ghost Island is just Advantage Island, right? Like that's the whole point of Ghost Island. Island of the Idols. You're going to the island of the idols to get an advantage. So no, you're not wrong. I think this was the Advantage era. And then the new era just kind of took it and just dug it into the ground, you know.

And now the Open Era is going to do some stuff too. And we just have to wait and find out what that is. Yeah, it is interesting. But Survivor 30 starts and we have our first ever advantage in we see an extra vote. By season 39, we have a whole island full of how to get. give out a new advantage every week. By season 40, we have a currency system with fire tokens where you can buy advantages for people.

You know, I think we really just kind of went off the cliff with this one. Looking back, it's easy to spot. And maybe in the real time, we were saying, like, did I think this is getting out of control? But by 40, yeah, we had gone. We were the frogs in the water. Like, it's getting hot. It's hot. Y'all don't see this?

Y'all can't tell. And now looking back, we're like, oh, the whole time. we were boiling. We should have started to say stuff around this time. We, Co-Rong should have been when we put our foot down. Like, hey, a super advantage, I mean, a super idol and a still-a-vone. The same season seems like a little much. Yeah. Julia Sokolowski gets her letter from home and she might have been the first person ever. We need to fact check this. It's a very like new era trope of like, oh, wow, my family, they miss me so much. And because of the, I got to make a big move. I got to make a big move.

I got to make a big way. I read this letter. Everybody's rooting for me. I need to make a big move. I got to do something. This is, you know, the long-distance version of what happens in the Philippines with Lisa Welchel. You know, her brother comes in like, so you just want to lose to Malcolm? She's like, oh, I probably shouldn't do that.

I probably should not do that. Okay, I should probably do something. I should start making moves. That's crazy. Okay, bad. This time Julia just gets that via mail. Yeah. Snail mail.

This is one of the seasons. I don't believe we have a loved ones visit. here in Kowong, right? Yeah, I don't know. I have no clue. I don't think you do. I don't know that. Why not?

I don't remember it. Because everybody's getting infections. They don't want to sit anybody like people out there. I think this was an era where they weren't doing them. So that they, you know, that they have the loved ones visit with Dawn and Karamo. And then obviously we don't have it in blood versus water because the loved ones are already there. In Kagi-on, they just like bring the final. fours loved ones out to compete in the challenge.

They don't have, then they do blood versus water again, so we don't have it in 29. And then in 30, I think that just Mike Holloway's mom comes to Nicaragua. And I guess it was close enough to North America where they had everybody, like loved ones standing by and flew them in. And then they don't have it here. And then it comes back in a big way in second chance with everybody, you know, Val comes and it's a whole thing.

And I think that that really, I give Jeremy the credit for he really like kickstarted like the 30s had all these big loved ones visits that were like a staple of the season and I think that it was really because the second chance one was so good that they made it like oh we have to do it every single season and they do it all the way through when we get to 40 culminating in everybody's loved ones and everybody else you've ever met. Yeah, no that's good point.

I never thought about it because yeah, you're right. after this season, Millennials versus Gen X is going to pop up, and that's going to be like a big moment for the loved ones visit, right? So, yeah, interesting. Hadn't thought about it before. I mean, as long as cut to we don't have the loved ones visit next week, I don't think they did have loved ones visit in this season. That's crazy.

But you're right. I mean, you have even the choice to have them come out for Cambodian. It's cool. I don't know if it's like something that, you know, it's kind of like, okay, these are retribes. turning players. So, you know, we're going to give them that respect. But yeah, they break the mold there. That loved one visit is very good. And then, you know, we will go on to see really big moments with Adam Klein's loved one visit. And then, like you said, leading up to, like, the most epic

loved ones visit at all time with all the people come and your whole family's there. But yeah, for some reason, Koran just gets skipped in the mix. Yeah. Listen, it's a season that gets the short shrift in a lot of ways. Is it a season that they said, you know what, let's put this on the shelf. Let's just, like, we'll get to it when we get to it. And we'll, let's just put on, we got this other season we did. Let's put that on on first. Yeah, the more I think about Kowron, the more I know that it was like heavily spoiled.

Because think about it, how many seasons of Survivor could just sit on a shelf for about a year with nobody? Nobody knew. Nobody told anybody, y'all. This group right here, these crazy people we're talking about just been sitting on this information, ain't no way. Ain't no effing way. No one. No chance. No chance.

All right. we do get a mention of Michelle. Aubrey thinks that Michelle doesn't see Julia for the threat that she is, but Aubrey does. Aubrey has had her eyes locked on Julia ever since she wrote her name out and crossed it off.

She never crossed it off her list. She got to get her before Julia gets her. And then, like I said, it's, you know, relatively clear to everybody that Julia is playing both sides. Even if she wasn't, they think she is. And so she might as well be. So, yeah, Aubrey's like, look, we got to get Julia out. And Julia is trying to take a strategic stance in this episode.

She's the one who kind of comes up with the split. She says, okay, we'll vote for Ty. If Ty plays the idol, oh, well, Sydney goes home. That's not bad for everybody, right? Let's do it. And then it slowly becomes, well, Scott kind of just turns it to Aubrey at some point. But, yeah, Julia was the strategic mastermind in this episode at first. I think she was sharper than I remember.

I still don't agree with the things that she has done. I think she understands what's going on. I just think she's doing it poorly. You know, like flipping to the guys' alliance last round with no numbers is crazy to me. And again, she apparently put up a good enough ruse to that Debbie didn't think that she flipped. But everything, everybody else is confessional since the moment she flipped is like Julia has flipped. Julia has flipped. Even Julia's confessionals are, I have flipped. So, yeah, she is, she seems like she has a good mind for the game.

But some of the tactics she's using, I don't think, are effective. Pretty good for, was she 19? 19 or 20. Yeah, very young. And I think Sydney's like 22. I think the people in the game right now are relatively young. If you want a $3,000 a month payday for life, what would you feel free to do? Maybe take a long weekend, every weekend, or try a bunch of new hobbies.

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If they don't move on, they manifest. They're not a demographic group. They're fans. Spotify advertising. You're among fans. Let's talk about Aubrey with Ty. She does really great work here. And she goes to Ty and you mentioned they don't have a close connection.

But she gives them the we have to talk, Ty. And she tells them that the girls want you and your idol out. Yeah. And, you know, this is good. from Aubrey because she's trying and it is a risk right because Ty could easily be like oh guess what y'all Aubrey said y'all come to vote for me you know like he he could have the numbers he has the idol you know she's playing a really like like walking like a tight rope here because if tie doesn't react to this positively she basically goes home but from her point of view she's probably going home anyway right if tie's not with her now

then either her or Sydney's going home and there's nothing they can do about it so you might as well just like throw it all at the wall and see what happens. She had a little bit of a sixth sense. I think that Ty was open to working with her. I think she was getting the vibes that he was open to it. Because she kind of has to do this in two parts. She goes to Ty and says, hey, the girls want your idol out.

And so we, like, why don't we work together? And he's like, you know what? This is great. I love this plan. Let me go back and talk to the guys. And I'll talk to the guys. and I think they're going to like this. And he tells us that

I think that Scott and Jason are really going to like this plan about working with Aubrey. And we see him go talk to Scott and Jason. And he's like, hey, guys, guess what? I talked to Aubrey. And she said, they're going to try to vote me out so we could work with her.

And they said, you know, oh, you know what? We should do we should vote out Aubrey. Yeah. Yeah, this is great. Because Aubrey says, Ty, you and I should work together. And Ty's like, great. Let me go tell all my friends that we're all in the line. She's like, wait, now, that's not exactly

what it. No, no, no, no, I got it. Let me go talk to them. They're going to love this. And you can see the panic on his face. It reminds me of, oh, God, is it Heroes versus Villains? Where I think it's Coach who comes over like, hey,

like, what are we doing? We can't do this. We can't vote this. And they're like, oh, what if we just vote our boss to Rob now? Russell Hansen's like, yeah, let's just vote him out. They're like, yeah, we can do that. And Coach, you can see the, like, the fear on coach's face like, wait, that's not what I was talking about. Same thing happens here.

Ty's sitting there saying, Aubrey is in our alliance and they said, no, we're voting her out, but thanks for the information. And I think this is another one of those moments that Ty will look at and say, they don't really value me here. And so my opinion is not being heard. I'm obviously the odd man out. They're going to pick each other over me.

They're not giving me an extra piece. You know, maybe Julia should be that extra piece for him. But he can tell that he's not really being respected in the moment too much. And I think it's probably apparent to everybody else on the beach too, Rob, because I know you said Aubrey has a sixth sense, but you have to imagine while these boys are stomping around, putting out fires and stuff. Ty is not standing there like, yeah, I agree. He's probably in the corner like sitting there pouting a little bit. Yeah, they can read him. Hey, you guys. Oh, you sure you want to do that? They're like, shut up, Ty. We're bullies now. Yeah. Fing balk and skull running the tribe and Ty's just sitting there in the background, you know?

Yeah. Ty, I got a plan. We're going to vote on Aubrey. No, no, no, no. Yeah. No! No! Okay. So, Scott is liking this plan.

They're going to vote out Aubrey. And that sets up that Aubrey's in trouble at the Immunity Challenge. And we end up with, you know, a really fun showdown at the end where it ends up, we end up with Aubrey, Sydney versus Jason, Sydney, drops out. And it's Aubrey versus Jason. And this is like a fun heads-up duel.

I love the heads-up duel. Every time it happens. You know, whether it's Christian and Alec or this, I love when you get the two people. I picture as well, I think it's San Juan del Sur where Natalie Anderson is spitting. Yeah. Well, this has spit also, this one. So, yeah.

Yeah, Reed spits, and then Natalie tries to spit, and She just like hocking a lugy on her shirt. Just gets all over her. Yeah. Jeff's like, that was unfortunate. Yeah, but this time around,

Aubrey's got this badass bounty hunter on one side and an NBA player on another side. And they're all spitting it. She's Aubrey with the boys. Yeah. She's feeling it. She's like sort of, she's like bouncing around.

And so this is a good Aubrey moment. In my mind, she wins this immunity. I was like really surprised when she dropped out and Jason won immunity. Same. I always think about this as the Aubrey challenge because maybe it's the most impressed I was with her physically throughout.

But when we were talking about 50, I was like, oh yeah, Aubrey's good at individual challenges. Yeah, in my mind, I felt like that she wins like three immunities in Survivor Co-Rong. I know that she says in Survivor 50 that she only, I think she's only won one other immunity challenge, obviously before she wins at the final four in Survivor 50. But in my mind, I feel like that she was like, oh, she's like a comp threat. She is right there at the end in a lot of these challenges.

I think she does end up winning one of them, which we haven't seen yet. But she's feisty. Yeah, no, she can go. She's not bad in the water. You know, we've seen a lot of aspects of Aubrey, and she's never, it doesn't look like she's holding the tribe back at all. And so, yeah, now that they're in the individual stage,

I too thought Aubrey was going to win a couple. Now, mind you, maybe she could, but she does not know. There's a sleeping giant over there being hidden from all of us in the edit, and she's about to show up and just start, demolishing people and some immunity challenges. Yeah, Michelle is going to win more challenges down the stretch, but we have not seen Michelle as a challenge competitor yet.

The one time they really highlighted Michelle was that she was not good in one of the diving challenges. Which is crazy because Michelle is really good in the water. I watched her season of one of her most recent seasons of the challenge. And the final challenge was, I say 75% swimming. I'm not even joking. Like, between every challenge they did, they had to swim basically like a mile. and Michelle was in second place through most of that and against some of these like challenged veterans of you know

of 20 years and stuff like that Michelle was in the mix I think I want to say she came in second overall and so knowing that now looking back I'm like really you know it makes more sense to me now you know the Michelle immunity run but yeah I think Michelle's probably underrated in her challengeability okay so the guys come back and you see Jason celebrating all three of us are safe I have immunity and we have two eyes

idols, it's perfect. We don't talk about this enough. We don't talk about, Rob, I don't know who I got to talk to. Peridium, if you're listening, when you go make these, like, list of boneheaded things, we need to move this one up the ranks. Because, again, a two-person alliance had two idols, and one of them went home. And they knew they were getting votes. They were aware they were getting votes and still did not play their idol and had the nerve to be

mad at Ty for not saving. them you could have saved yourself. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Have you thought about saving yourself? Yeah. Yeah, you called him Ozzy. Yeah, Scott does have, he has his own idol.

He hasn't. He didn't even find that idol. Jason gave him his idol. Y'all stole that woman Alicia's idol. And then had the nerd to get voted out with it. Just despicable. If they don't have a, if they weren't, villains before this moment. They definitely are now because

what are you doing? Squandering things. All right. So Aubrey is talking with Sydney and they're saying, like, we could go for Scott or Jason here, but we need to get Ty. And so we see once again, now we go back to Ty about

what are you going to do, Ty? You're going to join us? You're going to come with us to vote out Scott or Jason? He's like, I don't know. They're kind of scary. I don't know. They are scary. They are scary. They're destroying camp life and I don't really like that. But, you know,

the girls are voting for Ty or at least Michelle and Julia are going to vote for Ty. So Aubrey's trying to whip these votes to be Aubrey, Joe, Sydney, and Ty, so therefore votes will win the day. And we go to

tribal council hanging on what's Ty going to do? Yeah, and it's crazy because there's like a ton of different things that people think are about to happen. Because Julia and Michelle are sitting there thinking, Ty is going to play his idol at the very least. He'll be safe. And then whoever the boys vote for, probably Sydney is going home. Like, they're fine losing Sydney here. Or Aubrey. I'm sure they know it's Aubrey at this point because Julie is playing double

agent. But regardless, they're okay with that happening. So Aubrey, of course, uses that to be like, Sydney. You and Joe, we're all voting for them for the other guy because there's no way that, you know, we're going to both survive this if we don't. And so it's like Aubrey and City didn't have a lot of options at this point. Like this was pretty much the only move on the board is vote for the other one. Mm-hmm. We'll go to tribal council. Jeff IDs that Ty is more quiet than normal.

More quiet than in the past when he's telling people about the idols. You remember Aubrey's six cents? Yeah, Jeff got it too. Ty looks miserable. Jeff's like, Ty, it looks like you're not having fun. I was like, what, huh, me, having fun? Yeah, I don't know what this is. Survivor ain't fun.

A cruise is fun. Yeah, maybe Jason and Scott, they could have also gotten a clue here that Ty all of a sudden is looking like he has to put down, mark the chicken. Yeah, Jeff calls it out. Like, hey, guys, Ty doesn't look like he's having a great time here. If you know you're about to get out your target, I think you look a little bit happier here. Especially because Ty and the confessional talks about how this is war. This is war, and I have to vote with the guys because that's what we do when you're at war. So he sounds like he's telling us that he's in on it.

But somewhere in the day, since the Aubrey conversation, it seems like it's really started to weigh on him. And, you know, he also knows that Michelle and Julia are voting for him. So it's not like he should be too eager to work with them either. So they put both sides of kind of pushed Ty right into Aubrey's arms. And she's been there welcoming him every step of the way. You know, so there's a great moment at the end of the episode where, okay, that Jeff asked, does anybody want to play the idol? And so you see Julia is saying to Ty, play the idol.

Ty is saying, or Scott is saying, don't play the idol, don't play the idol. We need like saving it. So I want to go back to that we said that Julia and Michelle were voting for Ty here. So I'm curious in terms of. that did they, when they thought that the girls were also voting for Ty, did Julia want Ty to play the idol so that the votes that Jason and Scott

were casting for Aubrey would have taken Aubrey out of the game? For her, she, when she brought up the plan, it was originally on Sydney. It was going to be, Sydney was the one who was going to catch these votes if Ty played as idol. But you're right.

At this point, in the game, game. She does know that the guys are probably voting for Aubrey. So if Ty plays the idol, Aubrey goes home. But I think she's more help bit on getting the idol out of the game. She wants the idol out. But it's actually a little more clever than like where Julie and Michelle, okay, they just were like left out of the vote. But I think that they were in on an alternative plan with Jason and Scott that, okay, if Ty plays his idol, then he doesn't go home. but he will stay

and a bigger threat Aubrey or Sydney ends up going out of the game based off of what Scott and Jason are doing. Yeah, yeah, they were always pitching that it was going to be Sydney from Jump, you know, so I think they were hoping for that. You know, it's like, yeah, we'll deal with Ty later on,

but we really need to figure out a way to get out Sydney. And then when it came, Aubrey, it's like, yeah, that'll work as well. But again, they vote for Ty here. And if he doesn't play his idol, it's still no love loss, right? like, okay, like the four of us voted for Ty, he's going home. But they only got two votes. Yep.

And then the votes come up and it's Scott and we just have that great moment where everybody's looking around, anything. And Todd's like, nah, he said, damn, that's crazy. I'm not going to. That's crazy. Especially because now we get Scott in confessional, like, or his little exit interview like, damn, I got this idol right here. I was like, oh, you fool.

Because you looking at Ty, like, don't play your idol, don't play your idol. But at no point did it occur to you that you should play yours? His reaction to Ty not playing the idol is like, wow. Wow. Crazy. Scott, he voted for you. Why? The man, I just, you should force people to watch a season of Survivor before they go on the show.

And I just, and there's like, and pick a wrong of all seasons. Pickle wrong. That'll be the season. That's the BB 16 of Survivor from now on, or at least in the old area it was. Because Scott doing this makes no sense. Your reaction should not be that big. When you saw you have four votes, you should say, Ty, what? What?

You should have had your Michaela reaction then. Ty got one over on them twice, remember, because he did get away with the Nick vote as well. He's like, yeah, I voted for Debbie. So, yeah, they just didn't have a good read on Ty whatsoever. What's been your perspective on Scott now that we've watched him across these 10 episodes? He's a despicable character, but he's entertaining. You know, I wasn't bored by him by any stretch of imagination. He's very memorable.

Yeah, I think there were parts where he was warm in the episode. but there was part there were he had some lighter moments for sure I think I probably in my mind

remember him being worse he had some moment I think no he's pretty bad Rob I can't like do I remember him worse yes but I do also think

that is compounded with the way the final tribal council goes too because it's like right now he's a villain by the end of this you're like

he's a bitter villain and that's kind of like yeah a little tacky but I think that there was a point when he was by himself where he was not with Jason in the middle of his run where he was like pretty uh it was there was a lightness to him yeah when they're separate they're okayish you know but uh together they're a gruesome tosum and so yeah it's he goes here

and it's a good exit for a villain right like this is one of those like this is a villain that told you his master plan and gave you just enough time to unlatch yourself and then like he's hoisted by his own but whatever stephen be saying you know so i really think that that's exactly what this was right this is the downfall you get for somebody who's playing so dastardly so i know you listen to some of his exit press uh what was he saying uh i listened to the exit press and he was basically oh he said i thought this was very entertaining he said i was betrayed by every single person i was ever aligned with And I was like, say more things. And he says, yeah, even than the first vote, the first time we had to vote out Jennifer Lanzetti, Jason was the first person who betrayed me. I thought we were voted for, thought we were voted going to keep Jennifer. But he wanted to vote her out because she was acting crazy at Trouble Council. But I was like, no, we need to, we need her.

We should get rid of Sydney. She's 23. She's going to flip on us. And Jason wouldn't listen. And now to this day, we laugh about it. Not even Alicia that he wanted to be with Sydney. He said, I don't even know if he wanted Sidney out, but he told Jason then, we can't trust Sydney. And of course, they vote out Jennifer Lanzetti there.

And then from there, you know, I guess Sidney will go on to burn him. He'll blame Sidney for the downfall of his game. But yeah, that was pretty much the most entertaining part of that ex-interview for me was that like, he's like, yeah, all of my allies were betraying me. Are you crazy? I think that the relationship with Scott and Sydney, I think, was always bad. did an interview with Sydney last year. And I asked her about who she talks to. And she said, I think she implied that she didn't talk to somebody.

And I asked who it was. And I was like, Jason. She said, no, she loves Jason. But it was Scott that she seemed to have no love for Scott. Yeah. She was 23 at the time. And Scott's like telling Jason, like, you can't trust. She's young, you know, and she's a bodybuilder, and she's self-interested.

And so she probably just could tell that he was trying to draw a wedge between the two of them throughout. And so maybe that's what it was. They probably never got on the same page at that point. I also looked up before we came on. I knew Scott had had some health troubles in recent years. He needed a heart transplant. I think that when he talked about his dad earlier in the season, his dad passed away when he was 16. I think that that was the issue with his dad.

but it seems like that in recent years in the last two years, he got a heart transplant. And so I think Scott is doing okay now. I think I remember reading about that, actually. And he's a big guy. He probably needs a big old heart to take care of him. Yeah, I had seen some things where I think that he was really, like, you know, it looked maybe like, you know, pretty dire.

but all the recent searches I see or see that he's returned home after this heart transplant where he nearly died in 2024. Yeah, that sucks. You know, again, he's 611, 315 pounds by the time he needs that transplant. So, you know, his heart's already doing a lot of work right there.

So, yeah, I'm glad that he, you know, listen, dastardly character, but you don't ever want to hear somebody. He wanted to do some health problems like that. So I'm glad he bounced back. Yeah. Okay. Chappelle, anything else that you'd say about episode 10? Crazy episode.

Crazy episode TV. Again, kudos to editors. I think they really just line it up and make it a great episode. Yeah, it makes you, like, kind of wonder where the season is going to go next because the numbers have kind of like even themselves out a little bit more. You know, like they're knocking people off of both sides. And it's really crazy to watch this knowing that Aubrey and Michelle are on a collision course that are really going to define the later stages of Survivor.

Yeah. And so that's, you know, the fun showdown that we are headed towards. We're really 10 episodes in. And there really has not been very much Aubrey and Michelle interaction so far through 10 episodes. It's been a weird season in terms of like the people we talked about most in the premurge are not necessarily the people that we're talking about now. With the exception of Aubrey, right? Like I think the, I think the, I agree is the through line, right?

she was in the pre-merge. Aubrey and Scott and Jason, I think, were kind of the pre-mer. You know, Alicia, we lost her. We lost a couple people. But those people are there. I think the problem is that the beauties make it so far, and they're not getting a lot of screen time in the early stages. Ty, obviously is, but Michelle never gets shown.

Julia, like, I think I was listening to the exit interview, and I think you mentioned Julia being purple or something like that. And I was like, damn, if Julia's purple, what the hell that makes Michelle? You know, some of them are not even on the show. And so, yeah, now we've gotten to the late stage. and we're at the final seven, and at least three of those people probably are at the bottom of the confessional chart.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Chappelle, what's coming up for you? More House of the Dragon, more interview with the vampire, more Rock of Love on Recapkickback.com. YouTube.com slash at Recap Kickback

is where you can find me podcasting about all those things and more. Okay. All right. We will be back coming up with episode number 11, if you can believe it coming up, I believe on Wednesday. So thank you so much for joining us. Take care everybody, have a good one.

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