RHAP: We Know Survivor - Kevin Jacobs on Survivor B&B: Survivor 49 Episode 6

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

This week, Mike and Liana are joined by Kevin Jacobs for Episode 6 of Survivor 49!

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We know reality TV and we know Survivor because we are going to be talking. but episode six of season 49 here on the B&P now I know normally you hear Mike Bloom's wonderful voice but due to our crazy travel schedules we were not on the same page we did not vote together so you are getting me you have heard him previously on the season so far it is Puyah Zan Vakili Puya how are you doing hi everybody it's Mike Bloom no it's not it's actually me Yeah, Mike wore an outfit for the Amazing Race Recap a couple weeks ago and said he's dressed like Puyah. I do not have a Mike Bloom outfit. I do, but I'm not getting in my birthday suit.

So we are here. We are happy. We're excited. And Leon, always a pleasure to get to talk to you. I feel like we don't do this often enough. I know. I know. Well, we're getting together in the threesome.

I think everybody wants it. It is such a fabulous guest. We're always honored whenever he comes on the B&B. It is the winner of Big Brother Canada. Kevin Jacobs is with us. Kevin, how are you doing? Oh, what a guy. I tried to do a mic impression.

It just came out as a moan. Oh, what a good night for it to talk about Survivor. And what an episode. Why does Mike Blum sound like Gallagher from that one episode of Celebrity Big Brother? Insert pun here. Mike Bloom. What's crack-a-lacket excited to talk about some 40. Mighty fine.

Yeah, well, it is funny that this is the episode. We got a lot of dad jokes, right? How did the hamburger introduce his wife, meet Patty? So it is a very Mike Bloom-coated episodes. So we will be doing all of this, of course, for him. But let's not bury the lead. Kevin, you have had a very unique perspective in keeping up with the season. Do you want to talk a little bit about that?

You know, so for those unfamiliar with my world of Big Brother, can often keep up with a big brother season it's kind of like a choose your own path adventure where you could watch the episodes watch the feeds just read social media this season of survivor 49 i've taken the social media route so i have not i watched like 10 minutes of the premier but i'm pretty familiar with the cast i know i know what's going on i see you know sophy navigating the uh no that's not sophy i oh there are two sophies in the merge but that's I mean, Sophie Balearity navigating the tough initial starting point that so many have to deal with when your tribe gets decimated. But I'm excited to talk about this big one side episode.

Kevin, which Sophie did I draft? Do you not know which Sophie I drafted? You know what? Seems like both of them are still in the mix. So good work. Well, listen, I did draft both of them. So there you go. I mean, I will tell you that the being.

surprise that there's a second Sophie. You are not alone because the people who even who are watching every single episode are also surprised. I haven't seen much mention of her online. Poor Sophie too. Maybe she's Sophie won and we're just not getting that at it. That's so sad. And honestly,

that kind of was the storyline this episode was I am the new Sophie. Yeah, poor Sophie. I feel like her big, big moment was, hey, bananas are not a reward. They are a snack. This is not a whole meal. and then we didn't see her for like two weeks.

So I'm happy we got a little something, but also I can't blame anybody because I do feel like Sophie's gotten the shaft this season. I mean, we got a decent, I mean, a decent amount of content for her for this episode, right? We got to see, you know, her talk about like she, you know, she could be the new Sophie, the one of just an I take over that relationship with Alex.

So I think we got a decent amount of some of the tribe dynamics here. But Kevin, what did you feel about them swapping from two to three tribes? I feel like that's what we've been talking about is sort of like, why? You know what? I get the response. Why would you do that? It's just a one time thing. So what I think the thing is, is like at least keep them on their toes.

Like if you're going to change the format this much, keep it going. Have another swap to four tribes. Why not? Do it all. I like that. You're like, you know what? they're not doing enough swaps. I think we need to do more.

Yeah. I think Jeff would love that. I loved him in this episode where he got to just be like, oh, you think you're merging. No, no, no. I hear not birch. That is terrible news. So they went, they went to two, then they went to three,

and then they voted one. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. My guess is that they will, they're going to be, I mean, they are going to be merging in this next episode. But I loved it when Nate, I think it was, yeah,

I think they go to the reward challenge. They don't know it's a reward challenge. Jeff goes, you know, how you guys feeling? And Nate goes on this whole thing about how, wow,

12, perfect number for a merge. And Jeff's like, oh, you're hoping for a merge. Nate goes, oh, baby, like ready for the merge. Jeff's like,

psych! Time to go to three drives. I saw this, I saw this video on TikTok. Shout out of the movie making the merge. She said it. But it was like, Jeff Probst loves two things. Those two things are letting you know, hey, you do not know what's going to happen on Survivor.

He likes getting one over on you and he likes to call in medical. And he got to do both those things in this episode and quick succession. Yeah, I don't understand why the number three. I know we talked about being the threesome everyone wants here. But what is this fascination with the number three with Survivor? Why can't we remove this number from the equation a little bit? There's nothing wrong with two. two is great two is fun one talking tribe wise you talking final like what do you it sounds like

you got a problem with three overall um more so to do with the starting tribes i've always said for me final three versus final two i don't that doesn't like i don't care like i'm fine either way i know a lot more people are purists and want the two uh but if i can ask for one three to be taken out starting tribes i used to say it don't matter to me it is what it is it matters to me it feels like I'm reliving the same season every year now where it's like, all right, who's the designated bad tribe? All right. I'm not going to attach myself to any of you because I'm going to have to say goodbye to four of you in the next two weeks. And that is not fun. I feel like putting them going from 12 to 4, going from 6 people in a tribe to 4 people in a tribe, I don't like the whole

nowhere to hide thing doesn't appeal to me, especially when it's like, okay, but the best thing is when you see a nowhere to hide have options to then guess what hide find a new route we're talking with somebody here kevin jacobs who found new routes and navigated his way out of sticking situation all the time you can't really do that when there's like three people so i don't like that i don't find that to be as appealing would you feel better about it if there was an attempt to stop the decimation like if they started every tribe with like flint a bed and like a spa Retreat? Listen, call me, call me

crazy. But I would not be opposed to the Flint just staying. I would not be opposed to that. I would not be opposed to comfort items being introduced more. I feel like we took away 13 days and said, yeah, the invoice is there's pain that's going to

come elsewhere. And I don't see the appeal to that at all. Like I don't need them to lose their minds over and some of them really did over sell the fruit basket that Sophie refused to do. I don't need them to be that happy about the damn fruit basket. That should not be, they should not be selling that.

I do not think you should be selling that, meaning they're not getting enough. Do you think he's like indoctrinated reactions from people? Like, they're like, oh, you know, just they're, they're so used to this over and over. So they almost know how to act. So they act that way. And there is a little bit of a facade where it's like, oh, it's just a banana. Like, oh my gosh, banana. Like shout out, shout it to Sophie.

I'm calling her Sophie 1. Shout out to Sophie 1 for calling that out. Well, I mean, this episode, it was what, grilled cheese, potato chips, and iced tea. They were going crazy for that. I mean, it's no Applebee's, but they were definitely excited. And it was funny, the conversation, they were like, what's cheese is this? Well, one tribe gets the full fix-ins there. The other tribe just got raw grilled cheese.

No washing it down with anything. no it didn't look melted also that's not a grilled cheese then that's just this cheese sandwich I think so yeah I mean I don't know Alex pretty much inhaled it so it was difficult to see but but I think I think it's just it just it didn't look melted like it just looked like yeah like a cheese sandwich which is significantly less that's a raw that's a raw grilled cheese would be a cheese sandwich yes it was it was undercooked for sure but I think um but Kevin I really want to ask you because now this is, okay, this is like the first full episode that you really

watched. Who's standing out to you from the season? Is it Sophie 1? Definitely watched this whole episode. I think that that's Sophie, I think that's Sophie 2. I'm back to Sophie 2, the one who was on. I think it's hard not to root for her after going through that. You just get to know her a lot better.

I preseason, I was reading a lot, obviously, for my Albanian brother, the Risgod, but haven't seen enough out of him, as well as in the episodes. I don't think they featured him enough. So I'd like to see that a little bit more. And then just this dominant game played by Alex. So that's the Kelle's really, I'm excited about them.

Yeah, Alex was in a really interesting position in this, you know, this episode. Because the way the tribe breakdown happened was actually kind of interesting. Because with the new yellow, the new Hina, you basically had MC, just on the outs seemed like if they had gone to tribal, that would have been a pretty open and shut case because you had the alliance of Savannah, Rizzo, and Sophie, too, who all get along really well. They all seem pretty tight.

Seems like MC was kind of screwed outside of sort of her, you know, beware advantage situation. Then when you get to read New Uli, that was interesting because also seems like what should have been a cut and dry situation with Nate being the odd man out. And we see Sophie one talk about this being like, Yeah, Nate screwed. But then as time progresses, you quickly see how Sophie 1 is pissed that Christina threw her name out as the potential decoy vote. So now we have some Hina or OG, like the original Hina, the original yellow crime on crime because now, you know, they're not all on the same page. And Alex, as you mentioned, Kevin, has been able to get his way into that situation and create a lot of close bonds that he's seemingly.

in no danger whatsoever. And it's super interesting, I think, also, because given that they just switched and sure, there have been, you know, different orientations of these tribes so far, and you have, like, one day to work, that's not a lot of information. Even if you supposedly trust people,

even if you have those bonds from the original tribe that you were on, like you kind of just got to move at a really good pace. And for good or bad, it forces you to almost like, there aren't three levels, of work happening. You kind of just got to go for what's in front of you and make quick decisions. Yeah. No, absolutely. And I think that's what we see. I mean, with both the, you know, because original OG Blue got decimated. So now you see Sophie 2 and Alex both having to really do that,

right? Just like immediately take whatever is in front of them. They're like, we have nothing. Please take me in. I will absolutely work with you. And we see this also happen with Stephen, although this was kind of a the Sage v. Shannon drama Puyah has been boiling for a while and this ultimately ended up being where it spills over and we finally get a conclusion to this this long awaited storyline.

Yeah, you know, I don't blame Sage. If we get split, we get swapped yet again and I'm with my number one ops in a four person tribe, I do not care that there's three of us from the same original tribe. You gots to go now. And then I don't have to deal with you later.

So, like, I kind of love the way she unapologetically decided what she wanted to do and put in the work to get there. It's just when it comes down to it again and I don't want to harp too much on it. But when you're swapping for essentially, as Kevin said, one day and one day only, it does not. Like, you're just like, A, I'm trying to win tribal immunity. So I don't have to think about it. But then B, whatever is the quickest easiest solution for me, let me just run with that. And I think for Sage, she had been brewing on this idea in the previous tribe swap. where her and Shannon are the two on the outs.

One of them is definitely probably going to go. I would like Shannon gone anyway, and she's the only other name. So it's easy to then here, they could have easily been like, you know what, Stephen, sorry, you got to go. Like we're OG here. I'm glad she didn't because if that was brewing for three, four days and just given the eye rolls themselves, you could tell she was not going to be able to put it back together with Shannon and move forward as if nothing's going on.

You know, we've talked about a lot how hard it. is to fake things around certain people like certain people it's a lot easier for me to put a front in front of as opposed to others if you're someone i can't put a front in front of you gots to go because it's going to be exhausting for me to try and pretend i can't do it yeah Kevin what did you think of Shannon in this episode she um she's quite the character yeah talking so much out of Shannon in this episode uh so funny so curious uh and And I think it's like you're in this moment where you got to figure out how to just make it to the next day. And I almost wonder if like that preexisting relationship, you could have just leaned in a little bit, just tried to pull on that and take out young Stephen.

Yeah. What I call it young Stephen. By the way, by the way, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm not trying to be. I would use to show up having watched this day, I've taken notes, having done like extreme detail. I'm going to point in my life. I'm so busy. And Leanna and Mike Bloompool had nothing to do with this. And I said, come on down. Come on down.

And I said, I said, just so you know, just so you know, I'm coming unprepared. So you know what? This episode, I think Shannon, I think she could have done better. I think she could have made a move here. And the fact that Sage could not pretend in front of her, well, that's, that's on you. You got to make sure that you pretend enough in front of other people to make them pretend in front of you. And like, Shannon had already been.

putting trying to sink her hooks into everyone else except for sage and then suddenly now is a 180 on sage and sage has been watching from a distance so she knew the minute shannon tried to come up this ain't happening i can't do it i'm not going to do that there's no way and i think leona even the whole like it wasn't even necessarily stephen going like it was just such a it was just such a bad turn of events i feel bad for shannon i do think that literally almost any other combination here like if there was any other two from the or one from her original tribe that wasn't sage in here with her she's safe it's just this combination did not gel for her well i just read the first chapter of uh king george's book um because when he followed me on instagram i said fine george i'll buy your damn book and he was talking not all it takes yeah that's all it takes i'm easy I didn't even say it. I was like, fine, George.

All right. Like, stop harassing me. I'll buy your book. And it's actually great so far, good first chapter. And what he says is, you know, you play the cards you're dealt. And she was dealt the sage card. And what I will say is from my perspective, Twitter scroller, is that sage actually to me is one of the most dangerous players in a game today.

And the reason is because if someone has like quirks like that, it can make people sort of ignore that they kind of can see that person as one. undimensional. So then they will ignore the strategic prowess of this person or their ability to get something done. And then all of a sudden, when they do, they might not even get the credit, which is great at this point in the game because you don't want the heat on you. But for me, you get Delta player like this. You have to play with them, not against them, because it's hard to know what you're playing against if it's unpredictable. I think that's a great point. And I think that Sage absolutely is being underestimated from that perspective. And what's

actually wild is the way that she was able to use what Shannon did to turn the tables against her. Like, we know Sage has been after Shannon for a while. Thinks she's disingenuous. Think she's a liar. Think she, you know, like does not like her and was able to take Shannon's own actions of turning on Joanne and go to Joanne and be like, bruh, like she's coming for you, man. Like, I'm doing this to help you. This isn't because I have secretly wanted her out for three weeks. It is because I am trying to help you. And then by proxy, obviously helping Stephen by it not being a Stephen vote, which he may, you know, I mean, I know he was in on the potential Joanne plan. But still, it allows Stephen who likes Joanne to be able to keep him safe.

So it just felt like such a perfect opportunity for Sage to take advantage of that situation because Shannon wanted to turn on Joanne anyway. It was so flawless. I also, you know, I just, I have to commend. her for being able to not only do that, but also continue to keep Shannon thinking everything's fine. Now, I don't know how much credit that can be given to the fact that Shannon didn't notice things, but from where I'm sitting, Sage is faking these kisses and really putting on the act as much as she needs to to not reveal anything to Shannon. So, you know what's better than the one big thing?

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Because you go into this tribe of four with the other three, keep me honest here, who started on an OG tribe together. Now from the outside, very easy to say, y'all stay together. It's the new era, typically the tribe that comes in that can control things, whatever the numbers look like, tend to do well. But their inability to get on the same page, this Stephen gentleman is not even in danger. It seems like he didn't even have to lift a finger.

They just imploded. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he had option. He basically had options on a four-person tribe. He was, he, I mean, maybe didn't necessarily have the deciding vote, right? Because what was Sage, you know, what was Sage going to do if he said, no, I still want to vote Jo Juan, right? It's like, okay, well, fine, then we're going to vote you out. But still, like, the fact that it was between two OG Uli members of the Red Tribe, like, that's ultimately who they were deciding between. I think is so fascinating. And I think also because, you know, they, they have, or. had six original members remaining. So it felt like this is such a straightforward path. But the fact that they haven't been able to vote for each other, though, I think it made them antsy to want to

vote for each other. You had a reaction. I need to know. Look, it's one of those things that until you're in it, you can't judge, but from the outside, six people going into the merge, that's so good, especially if you want

sacrifice one. So if I'm sage and I'm thinking, you know, maybe at the merge is the time to get Shannon out, like that just gives sort of a sacrificial lamb where in some ways, sometimes you get like these three tribes, three original tribes to merge. And they're like, oh, we got one of yours last time. Let's let's, let's, we got one of ours last time. Let's get one of yours. And for some reason, people agree. So I mean, I don't necessarily think you got to stick six strong once you get there. But I do think that the more you have at the merge, especially with this kind of chaos, the better. I think what helps Stephen's case also is that the last two tribals,

two people from the original Heena did go out. I think that helps him. Typically, we'll see this happen where if there is, because as the script dictates, sometimes it feels like with three tribe seasons in the new era, if one tribe gets decimated, the other two tribes start ruin this rivalry. If we need to get the jump on them before they can make the jump.

on us. So they were able to get that done early. And so now you could start looking at it from a more individual perspective. As you know, the merge is going to be very close to be like, hmm, if I'm going to be associated with this group of six, that might be bad for me because I could be a casualty early on or, you know, they could be looking at me and one or two people from my side flip over. Let's make ourselves look smaller and then go from there. I don't even think that's what the motivation was here. I think the motivation was Sage did not want Shannon to make it further. But I I think also someone like Stephen had recognized that Shannon can and is putting on a good display in front of everybody socially, but also it can very much be for a game. Sage saw it as very performative for games.

So getting rid of an individual like that is pretty good to start things off for you and your journey on the merge, especially if you're original red because there's less of you now. So even at a final 11, there's now five of you and six of everybody else. but I think they also recognize that they've made good moves with Sophie. They feel like they've got Sophie there. So there's really not too much of a risk to go after a Shannon here. Yeah, I do want to take advantage

of our reality TV expert that we have here. And I'm not saying you have to name names, but think about the most annoying person you've played with on one of these reality TV games, Kevin. And how do you handle being with someone that is that you do not vibe with? For me, I try and get as close to them as possible. Okay. Because it's just like you kind of just have to filter it through that.

And ideally, it's not a thing that's personal to me. It's that they're annoying everyone, in which case, like, come, I'll be your friend. Like, I'll keep you around. I can deal with your smell or attitude or whatever it is just knowing that because you kind of just got to filter it through the unciriousness of whatever game you're playing.

Who are the most annoying people that I've played with? It's I think fundamentally here there's something interesting going on where Shannon's like more of the like traditional gamer where is filtering reactions through the game whereas Sage

is who she is. There's no difference between the game and life. And so there is that moment of like a reality TV where you're kind of for some people, I mean, academically, when there are cameras on you, your personality changes. That is just a fact. Like there's there's academic published writing that is way beyond my knowledge. That talks about these things. But I think it's super interesting when you have these two forces where I think fundamentally

Shannon wasn't necessarily fake enough because Sage wasn't fooled. and where she failed was not the fake. It was being fake enough that she could fool Sage, whereas Sage is playing where she's not going to put that up. So it's like almost these really two opposing forces. I'm not saying one is right or one is wrong, just that Shannon could have executed better on that side. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, and I think that and Puyah, you brought this up as well. Like, it's not just Sage who's noticing this. And I think even Savannah, like way back in the very first episodes was like, yes. Like she's a shark, right? I mean, basically being able to say that, yeah, she's got this sort of like hippie-dippy love everybody kind of persona, but you can tell she's gaming under there.

And Stephen picked up on that. And Savannah has picked up on that. I think everyone has and does see and recognize chameleons amongst them socially when they're living their day-to-day life. There's always somebody who somehow has something to say about every interest you have can tailor, start tailoring their conversations towards your interests. Like it's, and once you go through this enough, it can become a little more transparent like it's not saying again that

Shannon was being disingenuous it's just that is a very scary trait to see in a game like this and then also once you see it happen more with people that are not you now it feels disingenuous now it's like oh so you just do this with all everybody

you just talk like this with everybody okay so I'm not special so you didn't actually care it can then if you're a friend to everyone you're a friend to no one right so so let me explain what that was Do you see how uncomfortable that was? Please, please. Were you laughing?

Okay. I can't tell. So there's studies. Okay. Let me explain. This is what you said to you. So there are studies that show that when you are in a room with like your friends or people you're comfortable with, your brains actually get to the same wavelength.

And when you laugh, you're laughing in the same register. But when someone laughs totally off like I just did, whether up or down, it's actually extremely uncomfortable. And so in these games, part of the issue when you're trying to be that chameleon is you have to be getting on someone's brainwave. They're a little different unique ways to do that where you like mirror body language or repeat things to them. But if somebody is off, it can actually be really disconcerting and not necessarily off from the group, just off from where you are. And that's why with so many strong personalities you can feel like that. And obviously these two, their brains were just like flip flopped from place to place and they could never align.

So to each other, their laughs probably both sounded like whatever that that nuts thing I just did was. Yeah, yeah, that was uncomfortable. Coherent points, right? Amazing. Demonstration, you showed, you showed us what you meant. You explained what you meant. Wow. I feel so much smarter knowing.

Have a good day, Guy. Thank you, Kevin. Yeah. Well, the other thing is also Shannon remembered the womb. So I just want to like, I have no specific comment about that. but I guess she remembers her incubation period, very interesting. So, you know, she's definitely telling the truth with everything.

So who doesn't? Who doesn't? Yeah, who doesn't? Woom, there it is. That's, thank you, we know, we've talked a lot about Shannon, but let's continue. Five big, woo, boom, womb, boom, boom, yes. Get her that chicken big. Five big wooms for Shannon.

Oh my God. Okay, well, let's talk about our preseason predictions that we had for Shannon after we give her five big wounds. Puya has Mike's prediction, which I think let's go ahead and play that first. So this is again,

as we do every season, Mike and I predict what we think is going to happen to each of these players in terms of their boot order. So Puya, what did Mike think, Shannon was going to do this season. All right. So Mike thought as follows.

Hey, everybody. So sad I can't be here at the B&B this week. But at the time you all are recording, I will already be on the West Coast in San Francisco for our upcoming festivities, which I am super excited about. I hope everyone who is going to any of the activities happening this week over in San Fran.

Come over, say hi. But I am so excited to listen to you, Liana, and Puyah, and Kevin, break this all down. Obviously, it was a heartbreaking week for our neighbors to the north, but a heartwarming panel to discuss what I thought was a very fun episode of Survivor, culminating in the boot of one Shannon Fairweather. But rough weather was certain to be on the horizon for her to begin with, because I had Shannon getting voted out pre-jury.

Here's what I wrote. To mine and many people's surprises, Shannon is surprisingly subdued out of the gate. Her early days on Uli are spent less so gaming and more so vibing, leading meditations and ensuring she have deep one-on-one conversations with everyone. Of course, Shannon makes an immediate connection with Sage, the two connect on spirituality as the odd ducks decide to join the same strategic pond. However, as Shannon gets more comfortable with her tribe, the more she begins to open up about herself in the lovingly gregarious way that we're used to. This will make her the primary pre-merge antagonist of Savannah, who will see consistently complain that her vibe is not her vibe.

When Uli finally loses a challenge, Shannon is eager to put her hybridized Boston Rob AI Jesus advice to work. Alas, her boot in the game, much like her chat bot activity, is prompt. Shannon is an easy, near-unanimous boot as she's given last call to get sent back to her parents' four-floor sports bar. After her torch is snuffed, she'll turn around and give a Dorothy-esque individual goodbye to each person and where their spirits connected the most out on the island. Nearly all of it is unfortunately cut for time. her ally is Sage and her enemy is Savannah

the vibe I'm picking up from this one is not great I was relatively off the mark on this one I don't want to put words in your mouths but I'm sure Leanna's was better Leannas is always better anyway cannot wait to listen can't wait to be back on the B&B next week and excited to see what's going to happen

with the actual merge coming this week wow thanks Michael also i like i like the blue jays dig right at the beginning unnecessary why are we talking about that why'd you bring that up that was brutal i i can't legally speak about that yeah understandably understand yeah um he had a lot to say okay he did have a lot to say okay very interesting so mike had shannon going pre-jury and i agreed

so i like i said shannon pre-jury and here's what i wrote about her, I said, what a character. Shannon dominates the confessionals and social dynamics on Uli and neither in a good way. She can't stop talking and rubs many people the wrong way, apart from Joanne, who enjoys her kooky energy, even the viewers at home tire of her whole thing. When Uli loses their first immunity challenge, it is a done deal who is going first, although the editors do their best to make it seem like Jawan was in any sort of danger. Shannon lives up to Mr. Sahuop Goats comment on her Mike Bloom YouTube interview saying, I think this is what Jeff meant when he said there are some players who have no chance of winning on day one.

Her ally was Jawan and her enemy was the rest of Uli. So clearly, neither Mike nor I, nor I think most of the viewers, had high hopes for Shannon in this season. It did seem like she was doing well, at least initially, but ultimately ended up sort of crashing and burning in the preseason. So Kevin, you now have the opportunity to award one of us a point, either Mike or I, for who had the better prediction. Well, you know, actually, when you're scheduling this podcast, Mike said to me, hey would you rather record on this day with me or this day with leona and i said mike i've made enough choices lately and so that one's that one's for you coya so and so one of us has to get more nerds fun um i actually think that uh i really i really wanted wanted to

pick you leana but but i think that mics was often like a really nice way where this connection with Sage was central to Shannon's story. He thought they would get along, but they just clashed, which is kind of beautiful. So he nailed that. It sounded like his pre-merge was a little bit closer to the merge. And he also kind of nailed her tone a little bit better. So I'm going to give this one to Mike by an inch. Yeah, fair enough.

I mean, I think absolutely. I think being able to point out that connection with Sage that basically starts well and gets sour because that is what we saw. So in the earlier part of this season, we see. Sage and Shannon have a close relationship where actually Sage is like to Shannon says, hey, we need to vote out Savannah. And then Shannon goes and tells Savannah, which ends up causing a whole thing. But that was because Sage felt comfortable enough with Shannon in those early days to be able to talk with her about that. So I think that's a very apt and accurate piece of

his prediction. So congratulations, Mike. Even when you're not here, you're still winning. Hashtag winning. Okay. So we have talked, oh, actually, sorry, before we get into the game for a day. Let's go full Charlie Sheen for a second. Hashtag winning.

Hach winning. I just put a throwback on that way to bring it back, Leanna. Everybody's been waiting. I'm extremely topical with my references. Thank you very much. Tiger blood.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've been saving in that one. Well, I do, well, again, not to be too out of date, but Unk is a, you know, a common term being used now in the regular vernacular. But what the survivors have done this season

is really capitalized on Uncle Jay. Kevin, how do you feel about the Uncle Jay nickname for Jeff? I'm actually okay with it. Like a lot of people now are, it's easy to hate on. A lot of people now grew up with him. And he is like,

if you're not as plugged in as us, he is like, you know, this friendly like figure that you, you know, followed you or whatever. Like, I get it. Like, Uncle Jeff, like, you know, as much as he wants to be the strict father that he used to be, he's not, like, his kids are all grown up.

He's, he's softened a bit. So I got, I got no issue with it. He's kind of, he's kind of, everybody's uncle. Okay, so we're leaning into it. Yeah, I think it's good. I think what would be funny is if they just keep changing the familial relationship, like, as it goes along. So, you know, you can go like, pepaw, Jeff, at a certain point.

in time, you know, who knows when he's going to retire or just continue on the trend. Great uncle. I think it's great uncle, Jeff. I have been watching these videos lately with this guy, Unk, and you don't mess with Unk. So Unk is this guy who they just

became influencers. It's called the most dangerous gym in America. And their training method, look them up. Okay. It's not scientific. It's not healthy. They train to like failure beyond failure. And what they do is they go to the gym. And this dude, Unk shows up and they do whatever Unk says.

And Unk has rules, sweatpants, sweatshirt, no color in your water. Like, don't show up with a Gatorator. You're running on the hill. And this thing has just blown up. If that is the Unk that Jeff is going for it, I stand by it. I know that if Jeff went to the most dangerous gym in America, he wouldn't make it, though. It's horrific. Oof.

Okay. Yeah. I mean, he was struggling in this episode. It's hot out there in Fiji. So, you know, who knows. But maybe. back to the wide brim hat. Yes. I would actually

love that for him. But maybe he should channel more of this Unc character. Oh, and Unk loves. Unk loves people, but you know, when you need when you need, Unk's a firefighter and when Unk seriously, fighting out there, he needs, you know, you don't get to take water. You don't get to take break. So Unk pushes everybody

to be their best. He shows love in like a tough way. So how should if, okay, so we had the whole Christina incident also in this episode where Christina seemingly the diagnosis was like she's too excited by the doctor, not the fact that like they're not eating and it's really hot. And she could be having heat stroke and be dehydrated. It was like, you know, there's just so much adrenaline and excitement with the tribe swap.

Like that's her official doctor diagnosis. But how should, okay, how would Unc Jeff treat Christina in this situation? Yeah. So I think he would let her take her time, recover. and then he would let and like I think back to when Unk's nephew, Hoddy, failed a 405 pound squat and then came back and tried again

and Unk was so proud of him. It isn't the failure, it's that you get back to it. And so I think for Christina, just the fact that she had this very scary moment and continued to fight in the game, I think Unk would be really, really proud of her, probably push her and then give her a hug.

I feel like let's just gloss over the nephew named Hoddy, but we maybe should Jeff give out nicknames to the contestants more often and then they'd show up and they'd be like Jeff call me Jacobs like this

as soon as he went for one last thing it was over no I'm not saying like something common that's you like it could be that it could be that but I'm saying more like in flavor of love like where it would be you know this is pumpkin or this

is you know hottie right that was actually where I got the idea I feel like maybe we're just like again we're not going far enough. It's like H-G-E-D-Y not H-D-Y not his name. It's not like he's not calling his nephew H-O-T no it's his name no so but should you have people nicknames

sure cutie haughty you know New York this is this is pumpkin yeah okay oh my gosh all right never mind scratch that idea doesn't joke around a lot he's pretty he's pretty intense pretty yeah pretty locked in he's like i will send you a video after it's just don't watch it before you go to bed okay i don't know yeah a little traumatized that i'm in i'm in here for it

okay well let's play the game we have a set up for today so you know look we've had a ton of swaps this season we've gone from three to try to two to now back to three with only four people per tribe so it was only fitting that we swap things around a little bit here and play our anagrams game so the way that this works is i have taken the names of the survivor players put them in an an anagram generator and then taken those anagrams so it's basically all the same letters just rearranged and it's up to the two of you to try to guess which survivor from this season i'm talking about. So this does include previously eliminated players. It's basically the entire cast.

So if you want to go ahead and pull up a list of all their names. Now, for context, some of them have like, quote unquote, you know, nicknames. So for example, like Annie, I believe her full name is Kimberly. I used Annie and then her last name. Same with, I think, one of

the Sophie's also has a nickname. So just keep that in mind as we're going through and playing the game. Now, we also need, the way that we do this is we have you buzz in. You use MC's full name? I,

no, I use MC. And then her last name. That's a pretty easy anagram. Okay, alright. No, I mean, it's first and last name's coming. It's not going to throw up. Okay, cool.

Yeah. Okay, just checking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so you both need a buzz in sound. It can be whatever you want. It can be a noise. It can be a phrase. Just something that indicates that you are ready

to answer because I am just going to read the anagram and then the first person to buzz in has the opportunity to answer. If they're wrong, the other person will get an opportunity to answer. So Puyah, do you have your buzz in sound? Me, me, me. Okay. We got to meet me. Kevin. I mean, I had one, but when you did that, Pooia, just all right. No, I want to hear it. No, you have to go with your original idea. Okay, it was, it was just unc. Okay, beautiful. I love it.

That's perfect. Yeah, but I want a sound to match yours. Do you want, do you, it doesn't have to be a sound. I think mine is I usually just always yell 69. Unk. Okay, great. All right. Fabulous.

Okay, let me go ahead and read for you our first anagram. So again, remember, the first person to buzz in gets the first crack at it. Your anagram is, I am late jerk Ank Yes Kevin My Canadian brother Jake Latimer

That is correct Yes Yes his name aagrams too I am late jerk Or also Lama jerk tie If you're interested in that Okay perfect

Kevin's on the board with one point Our next anagram Is Oh relax emo oh relax emo oh relax emo oh relax me emo yes

Alex Moore that is correct yes Alex Moore oh relax emo which is so funny for him I just love that Alex more there are two more there are two more not really

yeah well no but that's that's so much better than two so because it's like you don't learn people's last names on Survivor typically. Yes. There has been no confusion over the Moors. There has been much confusion over the Sophies. So yes. Unless you're on the mat and you say,

Jeff, call me. Call me the last name because I want to be a survivor legend. Or come up with a goofy nickname. Call me giggles, man. Like, I don't know. We've already have Rizgod. And I mean, I know he's not like doing that as an outward persona. That's just more of his like confessional persona, but still.

He's really got to tap into the Albanian reality TV community. Like he. Is that what he's missing? Where's God if if you're if you're listening, my brother, you got to, you got to find, you got to find, you got to find the people who go crazy. In Albania, they will love you. They will, they will do things for you. You never expect the Albanian community like I'm telling you, if they love you in reality TV,

you will, you will live a life of, you get a life of. you could only dream of. Yeah, you got to, yeah, we got to get in marketing over there. More visibility. Tell them to message me. I'll bring him, I'll bring him,

I'll bring him to the association meetings. Perfect. You heard it here first. Kevin Jacobs will make the connection. All right. Here is our next anagram. One vanilla, a hush.

One vanilla. Yes. A hush. you said what you said unc did you just say unc no i know i didn't oh i thought no i know who you hit me me yes yes savannah louis yes savanna louis yes that is correct so much better answer than my nicole mazou well my no the noise i am i i admitted was can you say that again did you say a hush yeah one vanilla a hush a hush this was an a before the hush correct yeah okay yeah because you needed an extra a basically there was a free a anyway okay right so let's move on to our next anagram lazy icon mole

Lazy icon mole Lazy icon mole Lazy icon mole Yes Nicole Mazzulo That is correct Yes

As soon as you said that I knew which one is next I was like okay Thanks thanks for giving me that softball You're welcome You're welcome That was definitely planned But sometimes it's like do you know

it's sometimes like too much in your head. Like someone asks like a really easy question, then you're like, no, it can't be that. I don't know. It can't be bad. Okay. We are actually all tied up two to two going into our next anagram. Here is the next one.

I, NASA devil. I, NASA devil. And I'll give you a hint that is not Stephen. I. Hi, NASA Devil. Mimi. Correct. Yes, Fulia.

Annie Davis. Oh, thank you. It is correct. Correct. Thank you. Good work. Annie. Yes.

Hi. NASA devil. Aye, NASA devil. I, NASA devil. I'll fake a space. I'll fake a moon landing. Yeah. Her and Stephen can be in cohorts together.

Yeah, Stephen's a. Space program. manager from Littleton, Colorado, 35. That is correct. Got no heat in episode six, despite being with three people who are on our original started tribe. Very impressive. I know.

An icon. Good work. Look at him go. All right. You're next. NASA or is it like another program? I think he works for Lockheed Martin. I don't.

Yeah, I don't think he works for NASA. But I don't know. Don't quote me on that. All right. Got check the LinkedIn. All right. Yeah, exactly. Go check his LinkedIn.

your next anagram is just a real no just a real no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh yeah uh jason troll yes that is correct i felt so bad for jason but it was so funny A real no. I was saying, yeah, to distract Pia before I... I think it worked. It did, it did. I kind of got spooked. I was like, uh, yeah.

Next level anagram strategy. All right. Well, this is for all the marbles because this is the final anagram I've prepared. And we are tied three, two, three. So here is your final...

Huh? You said... Three, two, and three. Oh, three, two, three. No, no, no. Those are the number of tribes. It was three, two, and then three. Yes.

So that was, I was talking about you guys. Yeah, but who is two? Which one was those two, though? I have two points. Okay. I think it's three, two, and three. Okay. Because that makes sense.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually can't win here. It's tough. So, sorry. Here we are. It's okay. Your final anagram is, kiss their ego

their ego young yes Kevin Sophie won yes congrats Kevin yes I was so ready to buzz it earlier the podcast you said

you said I did MC one I was so ready to just not listen and just go MC you're like I know exactly no it was your favorite the icon the fruit hating icon Sophie one needs so much more of her

oh my god she is the opposite of passion fruit she is dispassioned fruit she hates every every all of them apples bananas oranges thank you for naming as many fruit as you can think of

Kevin you want to keep going okay yeah strawberry strawberry blueberry blackberry Kiwi mango melon honeydew

what about that delicious pear how about a pear did you forget about the pear got to get that all right let's call it there

with the pear proud of you that was that was a lot of fruit well Sophie would still hate all of it but she did

give you the winning point Kevin Congratulations. You have won our Anagram's game as quite close, you know, three to two to four as our final score. Thank you both for playing. Well, is there anything else that either of you want to say about this episode, the season in general, anything else Survivor-related? I'm seeing a lot of hate for this season. It's not that bad.

We got some characters. We got some people. Love Jeremiah, you know, like he was great. We love Jeremiah. I think, you know, we got some storylines that have yet to be paid off going into this merge. So let's see how it all plays out. You know, I'm excited. We got a couple of Moors.

We got a couple of sofies. We got a couple of other people whose name starts with S, someone who voted someone out because of a lack of vibes. An Albanian hero coming into his own, like pretty excited. How's Christina going to bounce? back from that moment in this episode. So I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited to see what Unk throws our way in this next little bit. And yeah, I mean, stop, stop Hayden on 49.

It is so good. Yep, Unkj, J coming in clutch. And I just, I think it's the season's about to pick up because I definitely do feel like a lot of people had felt a little bit of like lack of excitement. And I think also it does work against the show when it's sandwiched between a lot of other good reality shows happening simultaneously or right before.

But I do think the merge is about to pick up. We're going to be gone. The predictability factor is going to be gone somewhat. I'm hoping. And we're going to see a more dynamic, fluid, everyone all over the place game. That would be ideal. Yeah. And you know what? I think

now is the perfect time to start watching this season if you haven't. That's a good endorsement. Thank you, Kevin. Yeah, I mean, look, honestly, I, look, I've, I've been critical of some of the elements of this season, but I do echo those feelings. Like, I do feel like we're going in to emerge. I think it's going to be really exciting. I think that there are, yeah, those unfinished storylines. I think that it's going to be really interesting to now see everybody in such a larger group because you get a basically, you just increase the number of combinations of people who can interact with

one another. So you're going to get the most exciting types of interactions because so many people are all together. I think that there are apart from maybe that sort of solid Uly four, which would be, I mean, I guess now Shannon's gone. So it's really like Sophie, 2, Rizzo, Shannon or Savannah and Nate, like that's maybe the strongest group going into this. But who knows, people are kind of on to them being so tight together. So I think that this is going to be a really fun and really chaotic merge. So I'm really looking forward to not only next episode, but the remainder of the season. So that does it here for us today.

Thank you, Kevin, for coming on and giving us all your fun takes. We really appreciate it as always. Thank you so much for having me. One of my favorite podcasts to do. It's just fun, you know. it's not like the other ones where you leave just in so much like mental and physical pain

this is just fun exactly we're here to have fun we're also here though to highlight charities and organizations that are doing good work out here in the world Kevin what would you like to plug today yeah so I'm actually doing I'm fundraising right now

I through actually Big Brother a couple years ago I got invited to this gala I was like okay I don't get invited to a lot of gala. I'm going to put on my tuxedo show up. And what the gala was was called Motion Ball. And motion ball is an organization that supports Special Olympics here in Canada. I am north of the border. And what it does is it raises money to promote special O to support the athletes. It also helps like get young people involved. So this gala really, it's like almost like a Trojan horse party where it's like amazing and you get like professional athletes there and you know famous people and but

really what it is is it inspires them to volunteer and you see then these events popping up all over the country so like they do a day of sport which is unbelievable because like sometimes you know you get the charity and you're like I'm ranting but I will sometimes you get the charity and you're like where do my money go I don't know I can't see it but they do this day of sport called the marathon of sport where you get to play all sorts different sports with special Olympics athletes and you actually get to see like the impact of your contributions. With that said, if you want to support me on my journey, I'm trying to raise three grand, we're getting there. It is mball.ca.ca slash KJ. I got a specific URL there, mball.com slash KJ.

I like when I am on a television show to do some sort of charitable work in conjunction. And so this is my project this time around. So go and check that out. And yeah, I'm also on a television show right now that is Traders Canada. But that's all I can really say at this point. It's on television on Tuesdays on CTV and Crave the next day. It is. It is. Yeah.

And I mean, I'm just saying you should definitely watch it. So coming from me, I Leanna. Hmm? It's a good show. Yeah, it's a great show. Yeah, it's a great show. Tell us about Leona. Well, I mean.

What is that on? Oh, yeah, no, don't watch that. It hasn't been picked up yet. No, but Puyah, I think, should talk about what is going on in his universe, given all of the traders that is going on right now, not just in Canada. I get screeners to you, Leanna. So I'm in a very exclusive club there. I'm very lucky.

Traders, yeah, I'm currently doing the old double dip. Two different seasons happening at the same time. Celebrity Traitors UK has been so much fun. We're actually wrapping that up this week. The finale is upon us. but it was only nine episodes total. So if you're looking for a show to binge over the weekend, that's the one you want.

It's right there, especially if you're watching the other show I'm covering, which is Traders Canada. We are about to talk about episode three this week. So really, you are watching Traders Canada. It's once a week. You're savoring that moment.

It's tasty. If you're looking for other shows, there's other traders out there. Really good cast. I heard the cast on that is like. It's a banger. So good. Yeah.

Yeah. They pass some real icons. Like, pros amazing i love it's really really impressive yeah and i also talked to star of the show the uleana leona boris over on the puy and leona lounge every week so we're gonna talk this week i don't know about what yet because we haven't recorded but i'm sure it's fun last week we had a good time was our halloween episode um we definitely dressed up so make sure you check of that out and nine of a fiancee i'm still doing that lovely show we're talking i made the switch over

from happily ever after to the other way and I've got Jason Reed joining me this week. So check that out and find me on all socials at Puyahism or Twitch.TV slash Pooya. Fantastic. Yes. As Pua mentioned, you can catch us on the Puyah and Leona Lounge chatting about everything. Also, Pooia and I did a spooky, scary stream video game together

on his Twitch channel, which we're going to be circling back to and playing again. So if you watch that. Yeah, if you want to see Puyah freak out and scream, it's so funny. 10 out of 10. do recommend I'm sold

yep see that's all it needs it's hilarious his freakouts are so funny these are so interesting the moment you're like don't check it out I'm like what

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