RHAP: We Know Survivor - Know-It-Alls: Survivor 49 Ep 2 Recap

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

Today, Rob Cesternino and Stephen Fishbach discuss Survivor 49 episode 2.

The smartest guys around are about to break it down like they've won the game a million times. Well, actually they didn't really win the game at all. Surviving no it holds. Yeah, no, it's right. Yeah, that's right. The Survivor No It Alls is here. The night after episode, well, it still is the night of Episode 2 of Survivor 49. Stephen Fishback is under the weather. He has been medically evacuated from this podcast tonight, but we have a great fill-in coming in off the bench from Survivor 47. It's Asia Welch.

Asia, how are you? Hello, Rob. I'm doing great. The vibes are immaculate. This pod is fire. I'm so glad to be here. Yes. Great job of Survivor reheating.

Turner's nachos from a big brother two seasons ago. Yes, yes. At least they didn't say anything was ass or super megabuzzin. Cinema? Is that new? I didn't know about cinema. I guess and Rizzo said it in the first episode. He said, this is cinema.

I didn't know that was like Gen Z slang. Right. Like that feels like it would be like Jen. X because you're thinking like films, movies. I don't know. I've never heard my kids say this is cinema, but we will talk about all this and much more on a night where Annie ends up going home. Trashy Annie now is out of the game. I thought this was a bounce back episode this week. I was down on the premiere. I thought that not that much was going on. I thought at least this was a step in the right direction.

Hey, so tell me more about that because why were people so hard on the premiere? I heard that consistently. I felt fine about it. I thought, you know, everyone? I can see fine. I can see fine. Okay. You know, I listened today to the B&B, Allie Lashar was on with Mike and Leanna.

And Allie had a theory about that maybe if you watched a lot of the preseason coverage, that maybe it didn't feel like that you were getting too much new stuff. where if you kind of were on top of learning about who these people already were and you were expecting there to be a lot of new stuff, it's like, nope, we're still learning. This is still our episode zero. And so if you came in with nothing, I think that maybe you were a little bit higher on the premiere. But if you already came in kind of knowing who these people were, we didn't really move the ball forward too much, I felt like, in the two-hour episode. That's fair. I could see that. Because I was kind of watching it from the perspective of, are we getting a little bit of everybody yeah are we spending a majority of the episode on finding an idol no step in a good direction i

i like that i like seeing camp life i like seeing people interact with one another so we can kind of get those vibes yes the vibes okay yes all right well we'll talk about everything from tonight let me tell about what's coming up the next couple of days and when stephen is feeling better we will try to connect with stephen at some point but in the meantime check out what we've got coming up up tomorrow. I, in addition to talking to Annie, on the exit interview podcast, we've got a new era recap coming up with Thomas and Bianca, two guests for you tomorrow to talk about everything that's going on. I'm sure that they will be, have a lot to say about people who didn't lose their vote when they went to the challenge. And then coming up later on this

weekend, I'll have an old school interview with Amy Kuzak, had a great old school interview with Mike Scoopin in week number one. And we will keep it going all season long, not to mention the patron Q&A coming up on Friday. Okay, Asia, I really, I thought that there was a lot of interesting stuff with the Kelle tribe, the Blue Tribe throughout this episode tonight. And I feel like there was a lot of interesting decisions that players had to make along the way. Did you feel like that for Alex, he made the right decision to let Annie go. See, that's, that's really tough because I'm thinking, okay, from the perspective of, okay, he just told her about this idol.

So that means he's at least exploring the option. I think because we know the new era, six people on a tribe, you want to have a four, right? You get down to five. Sorry, I'm sorry, does I say Mike scooping into Andrew Savage? that is that why why why that I don't know we'll have to examine that why like that I guess maybe were they both like old school providers savage okay that was a yeah for sorry I don't even I'm not to apologize about that I don't even know where that came from I should go to jail for that the chat was going crazy send me to jail yeah like why is the chat talking about Mike scooping right sorry about that sorry for the jump scare everybody maybe I should call out sick maybe I need a fill in who's gonna come and pinch it for me right okay sorry sorry everyone go ahead um yeah so I was think I was just thinking like okay after this like in this

group of five they only need a three they keep talking about they need a four you only need a three so when you get down to a four you know then you've already kind of set in you have a two you have the idol on your side right already so you may not even need that in that situation. So I don't know if he made the right decision. I feel like time will tell, obviously, but he was right in his confessional where he was like, where's Jake going to go if he decided to turn on Sophie? Just to him, right? Yeah, I feel like that his relationship with Annie is so interesting. I feel like that we have a lot of questions for Annie because last week we saw Annie when Sophie talked to her and she said to Sophie, hey, why don't we vote out

Alex? Why don't we vote out Alex? And then we'll get rid of Alex because we can't get ready to Jake. And I thought that they had a thing. So this this Annie and Alex relationship is like something is like not, we didn't see everything. I mean, yeah. I mean, y'all talk. talked about last week, just like it, they were reheating, you know, Gabe and Sue's nachos with this pairing. Yes. So it's kind of like, okay, you expect that they're just going to be loyal to each other. But obviously, Alex is just trying to play, have all his options, right?

Yeah. And so do you, maybe Alex did make the right decision because he's not on the bottom of that four. He knows that Jeremiah is. It seemed like that it was a cohesive four. and so I did think it was going to be a little bit weird, but I really was buying into what the show was giving me. I bought into the edit of that Sophie was really in trouble

because they even gave us coming out of the challenge where she's like, hey, maybe I could be the one to go home tonight. I'm like, wow, I really never see somebody throwing themselves out as a possibility, but okay, we'll go with that. And then I did feel like, and the episode tonight was called Cinema, and I thought that we were building towards at that tribal council there was a back and forth

and I'd love to get your perspective on this about that Annie said in the game of Survivor you cannot trust should not exist on Survivor and then Sophie says well I'd like to push back on that I think that

you can trust people on Survivor's like oh my God this is amazing she's about to get blindsided and she's to the one who's saying no no no I believe you can trust people and then Annie came back to I would like to retract my statement I think the one thing you can trust

is your gut yeah you could always I can always trust my gut on Survivor I was like ooh maybe it's swung back now and now Annie is going to be the one who looks bad for saying I could trust my gut And it was like a ping pong match of who's going to be the one to get the last word in to say, no, no, no, I'm the one that knows about trust.

Yeah. You know, and this could have been Sophie trying to show like, hey, y'all, I trust in this. Don't, don't think about Annie. I trust in this four. And so I'm not going to try to pull anything. I trust y'all. I'm not going to try to play my shot in the dark. There's nothing fishy going on here.

I feel like she was doing that more in the end. interests of the guys so that they knew there's no alternative plan like she is trying to be loyal to them so she wants the same in return so i i liked the back and forth i'm sure jeff loved it you know wasn't kumbaya they were disagreeing yeah okay so they're disagreeing and then ultimately we see first vote is sophy and then the rest of the votes are for annie Alex yes good Why do you think that Alex decided to make this move? Because we're debating or, yeah, not make this move because we're debating if he made the right decision or not.

But was it even his decision to make? Because if he wanted to make a move on Sophie, he could have single-handedly did it with Annie. Yes, he could have played his idol. But I feel like Jake probably said no. I think he would have thought he needed Jake's buy-in to do it. You think so? Well, at that point, if you have Jake's buy-in, do you even need to play the idol?

True. Because there's five people. If him and Jake and Annie want to vote out Sophie, I don't think that Jake would have approved that. And maybe that's where cooler heads prevail, where it's like, hey, I've got the idol. I want to make a big move. Everybody knows I have this idol. I got to burn it now because everybody knows I have it.

And this will be a great move to make. And ultimately, that was not the case. Yeah. I mean, I guess Annie didn't do herself any favors last time, putting Alex's name out there, right? Yes. And so ultimately, we see that it's Annie that goes home, but we see that Alex says to Annie, it's like, I wish I couldn't, I couldn't do it. I tried, but I couldn't. He told her he had the idol. Did you think that Annie was going to reveal to the group, Alex has an idol, by the way? I didn't think she would

Because she wanted him to use it Yeah And they actually all knew She was the only one who didn't know Right exactly But it would have been funny That yeah that would have been I would have liked that mess

If that would have been What ultimately happened But unfortunately for Annie It did not work out What was the play for Annie Did she have a way out of this? Because I mean she was Yes she had her boss head on

And she was you know Trying to tell people what to do a little bit, right? Not she didn't wear her boss necklace. Right. You know, but I feel like she was trying to run this tribe, like her company where it was like they clearly were feeling that, you know? And so was there a move for Annie to get out of this?

Other than play the shot in the dark? I don't think so. I mean, nobody liked her. I mean, I don't even think Nicole liked her with all due respect to Annie. Yeah, that's tough because is it just a matter of, hey? we don't have a lot of stuff in common or is it just the vibe of the tribe is was that yes well i'll get into this because i believe i will actually be a guest on the why annie lost podcast with david and jessica celebrating 10 years of y x lost for the 10 year anniversary so we can get

into that but just to give a sneak preview of that she said that she was not going to be boss Annie, but it just seemed like that every other person in the tribe really seem to dislike having her, with the exception of Alex, whose best friend is his boss slash grandma figure.

By the way, shout out to Alex, who I believe is off from work. So he has plenty of time to watch the episode as a person who works in Congress. Oh, very true. Shout out. As of midnight last night. scheduled off day for Alex. Right. Yes. Yeah. Once hungry, though, and, you know, she ate a worm,

but that's it. It didn't seem like they were finding much else. Like, maybe that was just her default. Like, she couldn't even fake it, not bossing them around. She seemed to have a really bad read. She's like, I want to go to tribal council. Like, what are, like, hey, like, remember you in the last episode? You were like, hey, here's the thing. If we vote out in a call, I'm next. And then this next episode, she's like, I can't wait. I want to go to tribal council. I'm ready. Let's make a move. You survive one tribal council. Then you're, you said literally the last episode. Okay, what if Nicole goes? Then I'm next. And I don't want that. So that's such a tough spot, especially knowing that your name has been written down already.

And then you go into this on like, hey, maybe I can like, it can happen again. There's going to be someone else. And she, you know, throughout a couple of names without knowing the dynamics of everybody else. Yeah. I would love to talk a little bit with you, Asia, that they tried to describe to us the elements here. And I don't know if you experienced this at all in Survivor 47. There seems to be, and Jeff talked about this in the preseason, that the conditions are extremely hot in Fiji this season. this season. Can you speak to that at all? It was, like, at the beginning of our game, it was very hot.

Maybe there were elevated temperatures for them because he's saying he's made it a point to say it was exceptionally hot. But it was so hot that like, you know, some people needed. Some people needed to be like draped and like soaking wet towels just to cool off after doing the challenge. So like Andy. It was pretty hot. Andy and others. I mean, was that a factor in Andy having the famous meltdown on the mat?

I think that was an element of it. It had to be. Yeah. I feel like there's got to be a better way for Survivor to show us what this is going on. Like what if they like showed us like on the bottom of the screen like temperature temperature, 116 degrees Fahrenheit. Like I feel like that the in the word picture, we can't. tell on TV if it's 115 degrees or 85 degrees.

Yeah, I mean, because even when me and TK did the fight for supplies, we were drenched in sweat. Like, it was so hot. And we were in the shaded part of the jungle. So, yeah, it, I mean, to do all of that on top of, you know, obviously being starving and then having to do these grueling challenges. Like, I'm surprised more people don't pass out. Yeah.

We saw the brain fog where Jeff was asking questions to Sophie, to Jeremiah, and they were repeatedly like, I'm sorry, what was the question again? Yeah, no, that is real. Like, even having conversations at this point in the game, like, specifically, I can remember, like, day five, sixes. Like, it's hard to even remember words. We're trying to even, like, talk about, like, artists we listen to and we couldn't even, like, I can't remember the name of the song,

but there's something that Beyonce sings that I love. I don't know the name. So the brain fog is real because you're just setting in. Yeah. Like I think people say like day eight or nine is when you kind of,

your body finally is like, okay, this is my new reality. And then if you can get like rewards and stuff, then you're refreshed. But this first little bit, I didn't blame Sophie at all. Yeah. Or Jeremiah.

And then do you feel like, that this tribe, which has not won anything, they don't have their supplies, that the heat is just like, it's more and more of a spiral for them that they just have lost and because they don't have any of the supplies with this heat, that things are just getting worse and worse for them. Yeah, absolutely. Because they're just, like, the fire is just like a little bit of sign of hope because Lavo won the, this, well, the first immunity. And so, when we got the fire was like, okay, a sign of life

and then got the fishing gear, it's like, oh, now it's something else to do when there's nothing to do. But the fact that they just keep losing and even for Sophie to say, this is our fifth loss, I was like, what is she counting? I think they're counting the fight for supplies.

Yes. I think they're counting also. And I think they're also counting when we saw that Jake went on the journey. Yes. That's a thick out of the loss. So some of these losses are a little ticky-tech. But, you know, Jeff made a big point in the On Fire podcast last week talking about how they don't have a machete.

And if you don't have a machete, you can't open the coconuts. And apparently only Annie is drinking all of the coconuts in the tribe. So you don't have to boil the water like how you used to, but it just seems like that they can't even get any sustenance at all. it's recommended but not required about the water um and i didn't even know it's recommended yes because i feel like i'm i'm seeing everybody they're just like going like yeah people just don't care i don't they call that raw dog from the raw dog in the water out of the yeah i mean because sometimes people have people that go in the water and they don't know it and they still drink it without boiling it yeah but so it seems like that they're this

tribe is hurting in a lot of ways. Yeah. I mean, and it's, it is, like, if you have a saw on your tribe, it is possible to open the coconuts without a machete. But it's, it's one of those things that, yeah, machete just makes everything in life easier. And so anything that they're trying to do, even if they're just trying to, like, make their shelter more comfortable, without a machete, it's like, okay, whatever. We saw Jeremiah eating the worms. And he said, Okay, this is great. I'm eating the worms and they just taste like it tastes like dirt. I'm pretending that they're dirt.

I don't know. Would you rather eat dirt or worms? Probably dirt because you can like crunch on it. It's not going to move around. Yeah. I think I'd rather eat a worm in dirt. I can't imagine that sensation. Yeah.

Okay. So, Asia, did you eat any insects during your time on Survivor? I did not. No, I did not. I literally only ate coconut. And then like the nibble of fish that was like offered around. But I don't even like seafood. So I knew that was going to be a challenge. Other than in some sort of gross food competition, you never see a survivor eat a bug past like day four. It is only a thing. It's like it's like the most like tourist thing you could do on Survivor. It's like, it's like, the thing that, like, all of, like, the veterans, like, the people that live in the city, like, I would never do that. You know, that it's not, that's something that we actually do. But there's so many people, like, episode one, like, look at me. I'm going to eat a worm.

I'm going to eat a bee. I'm going to eat a termite. I'm going to eat a spider. Famously, Jess Chong ate some ants. Sure. They posted that on the Survivor of Instagram. And they always show it to prepare us. Yeah, I'm going to eat.

termites. People are always, they get the survivor and they're like, that's it. I've got this whole thing figured out. I'm going to eat the bugs. I beat the system. A lot of protein here. It's just like that first couple of day. I didn't mean, I thought it was like, oh, I was going to set in like day two. But no, like dinner, day one, you're like, oh, shoot, I'm not about to eat. Got to get creative, I guess. Does it go away? No. I mean, I mean, I've asked around and apparently it goes away after a week. Because in Survivor All-Stars, we didn't have anything. I think we had a machete, but I don't believe we had a pot and I don't believe we didn't have

flint or anything to make a fire and we couldn't, we had water, but we had to boil it and we didn't have anything to eat. And I remember the lack of water being a much bigger deal than not having any food. I guess maybe we had the cocoa. I guess we were able to open the coconuts. And then we would, I guess we were eating, at least Sue Hawke and I were eating like things that we were pulling off of rocks. What type of things? I don't know. She called them eyeballs that they were just like things like in a shell and you know rob and amber would need them they were very precious about that that's gross i'm not eating that but i you know sue hawk said i could eat it so i would just eat it oh yeah no there was like nothing that compelled me to want to eat

anything mysterious yeah and sue hawk would go and find the the eyeballs that she would pull off of the rocks and then I would gather everybody today and I said hold on hold on everybody I'd like to take a moment and I want to give gratitude to the eyeball that Suhawk found it's connected to us it's connected to us and it's giving its life to give us nourishment yes and just be respectful guys as we dive in you know we had we had this sequence moving to the red trail tribe a little bit. We had the sequence where we had where Shannon went and Savannah found a crab and Shannon had to, you know, wanted to stop down and then have everybody say a prayer for the crab that they were about to eat, big crab. Say a prayer. Thank God for Savannah for finding this giant

crab. We thank God for bringing the Sav God to us. But I just feel like that Survivor, you But, you know, back in the day, they would, like, have a full-throated, we are dunking on Shannon for doing this. Survivor, like, even tries to, like, now, well, like, maybe, you know. Like, we respect everybody's hobbies. Yes, we have a, we have to even, you know, you need, like, a little bit, like, side-eyed, like, well, this isn't something that I normally do. Like, that was it. Right. You know, back in the day, used to get the dodo music, and, you know, this would be presented as, like, a comedic scene on the show.

Yeah. I think it's because of how she disguises it as, or not, maybe not disguised, but she just phrases it as, but she just phrases it as in just like a, guys, this is just a vibes thing. We're just making sure everything's good here. but that would that would not fly if somebody was like, hey, let's pray over it. Mm-hmm. You know, like everybody's like, oh, no, no, no. We respect everyone's different, you know, beliefs.

But it's like because it's, you know, we're trying to connect through the universe. Mm-hmm. And it's ding-da-dun-d-d-d-d-d-type of music. Yep. All right. But in this tribe, and we've seen a few different times where Shannon is a little bit out there,

I guess maybe not as out there as sage sometimes. And so she's been in the core of this group where we have this really solid four that's formed where we have it's Shannon, Savannah, now Nate and Rizzo are the four. What do you think? You know, I did not anticipate a four where Nate and Joanne were not both a part of it.

Nobody did. Because I'm like, what? I don't know if it's a matter of those three said, we want Nate as the fourth and he's agreeable to that because you're not going to say no. But how did Jawan and Sage, you know, end up outside of this? I don't know. We've seen Jouan make some mistakes,

but it is odd that we saw Nate and Jouan have one conversation where Nate asked, Jo-Wan, what's your favorite movie? Joanne said the Goonies, and apparently that was the wrong answer. Nate hates the Goonies. Yeah, it wasn't the, it wasn't the moment that, like, Kyle and Camilla had. Have you seen The Goonies, Asia? I haven't.

I was going to say, is that too much of a, like, you would think that, like, is that too much of a boomer movie, The Goonies? maybe i don't want to i don't want to go to far fed i've shown it to my kids so but i definitely could see that there's like a middle ground of either that you're if you're somebody who is in my age bracket you've definitely seen the goonies and maybe we're we're showing it to our kids but there's definitely like a group maybe in the middle you're skipping us yeah that might have missed the goonies yeah someone in the chat says it's a gen x movie but you know what i'll tell you what you watch the goonies and if you if you it would have there's a lot of maps on survivor a lot of maps and buried treasure and things that one-eyed willie would have

been looking for okay so maybe the goonies should be required viewing for survivor players mm-hmm hey do you want a movie you may be on to something i don't see why you don't take that opportunity to be like hey i'm going to connect with you because I already see how you like geeked out over me saying I was a production assistant on a movie. Do you think that maybe Nate is sort of afraid of Joanne of that Nate is like, hey, I have a secret identity, much like the Peter Parker in Sam Ramey Spider-Man too. I have a secret identity that I'm hiding. And uh-oh, I am now scared that I'm hiding the fact that I'm this big wig Marvel producer, and they put me on a tribe with a guy in the film industry who loves

Marvel movies? Are you kidding me, Survivor? This guy's got to go. Maybe Nate just sees it as, hey, I have this four. Yeah. And I'm willing to build with Joanne because I know that little bit. I don't know. Maybe he's feeling like it's like a Jeff Kent with Dawson. Do you remember this in Survivor Philippines where that there was one person who knew who Jeff Kent was? And Jeff Kent's like, I got to get rid of her. Yeah. I had a different approach. I didn't want to get rid of teeny.

Yeah. Yeah. Teeny's like, I know who you, I know who you are. Yeah. And there was no thought that, ooh, I got to get rid of him. Yeah. No. It was like, okay, now I got to navigate this while keeping him close.

Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know how Nate sees it. We don't see enough of how Nate feels about this because I do feel like this could a strong connection, but maybe Nate's afraid because he's part of this for, and he knows that they're ultimately going to go after Joanne. Joanne really made a big mistake this week, where Joanne is on the outs, and he has been out looking for the idol, publicly idol hunting. And so you certainly have some experience with

noticing one person on the red team going out and looking for the idols and everybody's noticing reheating our nachos reheating some nachos again and then that joan does something that i've never seen any survivor do that he has taken his pack and he's filling it with sticks and brush yeah you know that's how we knew that someone on our tribe had something because they would leave with their bag every time. But it was like not when collecting sticks and firewood and stuff. I don't understand. Even Bush never put firewood and sticks in his bag.

Yeah. Like, I don't understand how, first of all, how, how do you have a bag open? Your hand is going inside of it and you don't see that that's not your stuff. Okay. So then we did it. It was maybe a mistake for Joanne. to take the bag out idle hunting. Now he has mistakenly taken somebody else's bag.

We have like the, like from so many comedy movies, you pick up the wrong bag, you get to the, you leave the airport, you have somebody else's bag, and this is Joanne, and he has Savannah's bag, and he is stuffing Savannah's bag with sticks and brush. and aunts.

He has definitely taken someone's bag off the conveyor belt that wasn't his, right? And, like, didn't realize it until he got home. Yep. A good thing he's not Matt, right? I mean, like, if Matt is picking up the wrong bags, that's it. You're screwed. Right. Yeah, very true.

He picks up the wrong bag, throws it in the wrong plane. You're done. You're done. You better hope you had an air tag. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I didn't understand. I mean, because it's not like we got a transparent confessional from Joanne saying, oh, I was doing that with the intention of if I did find an idol, I could disguise it as,

oh, I'm just filling my bag with sticks and stuff. But yeah, you know how many answer out there? How many? These locations, which I think I've been really trying to find. Yeah. I've been trying to figure out if anybody's on Lavo Beach. The Blue Tribe looks the closest to it. but the amount of ants that are just on you at all times there are ants everywhere and the fact that

her bag was probably filled with ants because he's putting leaves sticks oh sorry savanna i feel for you girl yeah savannah is not having it with joan and so joan is kind of persona non grata here in this tribe and just then a boat comes and a boat wants to take people to a journey. And Asia, I would love to get your thoughts on the current state of the meta of Survivor. These players, they have watched Survivor 48. It did not seem like many players were that interested in going on a journey. You know, and because in the past, you know,

you go and you lose your vote more than likely, right? It's more likely that you'll lose your vote than get something. The fact that this was, I love this new journey. I love that no one outright lost their vote. I love that the person who won got a choice. And so in that case, I feel like the note should have said, pick from a rock, everybody pick a rock, this person goes. Because then it's like no one wanted to go.

Every single tribe had, well, except for yellow, MC and Matt did rock paper scissors. But everyone else was just like, okay, yeah, Jake, you can go. Yeah, Joanne. So I'm going to have some different takes on the journey. First off, let me say that I like that they make it that you get to pick who gets to go. Because I feel like that the best case scenario is that there are multiple people who want to go and that it comes down to like some sort of like conflict. So I do like that as opposed to random and now somebody is just going and it's like,

well, I didn't want to go on the journey, but here I am. And so I like that somebody's pushing for it. Or it's like, hey, I'm at the bottom and I feel like I have a chance to change my situation. And so I do want to go on the journey. And then they have to say, oh, no, no, we don't want the person who's on the bottom to go. So I like that in terms of that. But there were not a lot of people who were that interested in going. And it ends up being, interestingly, three guys where Joanne, Jake, and Matt end up being the people who go.

It seemed like the only tribe where we had like a little bit of a back and forth that I think MJ also wanted to go on the journey. And her and Matt just did rock paper scissors. Oh, MC, yeah. I'm sorry, MC. And then Matt ends up going on to the journey. And so we get those three guys. And again, as you mentioned, a different type of journey of, okay, fill up coconuts in the other guy's basket. I just felt like that this challenge was a little bit.

I know it was a game of skill to some degree. But I feel like that in the past, like when we've seen this hold up the coconuts, there's one person who's holding the rope and then somebody else is throwing coconuts like this should have been like a thing that you did like send two people on a journey to go for this because to me it just didn't make sense I didn't understand like there was seem like

that there was no rhyme or reason why anybody was throwing the coconut in anybody's basket it wasn't like and maybe they thought that somebody like hey you threw a coconut in my thing I'll show you Now I'm going to throw a coconut in yours. I think they probably thought that this was going to turn into, hey, Matt's like, hey, Joanne, me and you need to gang up on Jake. And then best man wins.

Yeah, but there was none of that. Yeah. So, you know, I just, I think I would have liked where, or like maybe I'm holding my bag with one hand and I'm also throwing coconuts. I don't know. I felt like it was a little bit missing. Maybe it wasn't far enough. I don't know. I felt like it was just like missing.

I just feel like that we were just throwing coconuts and there was no motive of why anybody was doing anything to the other people. Right. Because if it was like, okay, yeah, Joanne was like Kobe, but was he just alternating back and forth? Yeah. That was my one small tweak with that is I wish it was a game where there was a little bit more of like a tit for tat and that it was a little bit more of I had a motive to take somebody else out. or let's, you know, gang up on the big guy. Right. Hey, maybe, maybe that was what it was.

Like, maybe Matt was solely focused on Jake and vice versa. And that's why Joanne, you know, didn't have as many coconuts. And maybe it was less about Joanne making so many coconuts. But it was really hard to watch, which the, with the way that it played out. But I did like that Matt and Jake didn't just automatically lose their vote. Yeah. Even if it was like they had to go like one at a time and then announce like where they were going with it. Like maybe they just felt like, okay, let's say Rob. Let's cut to the chase. Let's speed this up a little bit. Okay. It's a 90 minute episode, not a two hour episode. And so Jawan ends up being the winner.

And Jawan gets a decision to make. And there's a few different decisions that Juan has to make. do does joan want to help himself or does joan want to help the tribe asia what did you think about this choice and what joan ultimately decides to do yeah i would have helped myself okay interesting yeah it felt like i mean obviously we're watching we're not joan who know who doesn't know about this other four right but joan has felt the need to go out and look for idols Like, Jawan can sense that I'm not a part of something right now. Maybe there's something. Maybe there's not.

I don't know for sure, but it's self-preservation at that point. And when you come back, all the precedent that has been set, all you say is, oh, yeah, Matt and Matt and Jake lost their vote. I got to keep my vote. It was just more of like whether you're going to risk your vote or not. Because if it wasn't a tribe disadvantage, nothing was going to be publicly announced. So I felt like the choice was easy to still a vote So I will say that I thought that Joanne made the right decision on this Because and again, it's hard for me to separate this

Because I know that Joanne is in trouble And so it's a little hard to look at it from the perspective of if I'm Joanne But I think that we have to assume Joanne knows that he might be in trouble Because he's out looking for the idol We saw him be very upset with himself he couldn't get the fire going. He wants to be on the journey. So I think that Jawan is definitely feeling some pressure.

But the thing for Jawan is an extra vote is not helping Jowan that much right now. Right now, Jawan is on a trajectory where he's about to be voted out of the tribe, five to one. His extra vote could get it from five to one to five to two. Right. But he still is going to be the next person voted out of the tribe if they end up. going to tribal council. And I also will add where, you know, we're talking with Thomas tomorrow. Mitch also was somebody who came back from a journey and had an advantage in his pocket. And it seems like just the fact that you may have an advantage is a reason that people are

targeting you. So I think that for Joanne, for him to. I know that well too. Yeah. If people think you might have an advantage. They may want to target you. Jawan has the advantage not just to his tribe, but to everybody in the game to play this tribe disadvantage and basically burn that I had that I don't have an advantage. I just played it. So I'm free and clear. And then also potentially can at least he doesn't need an extra vote. He needs more time in the game. And so he's going to buy himself two or three days. Yeah, Savannah said he bought himself several more days. So is that seven?

No, I don't know about seven. I don't know about seven. That's a lot. But yeah, it's, uh, I don't see, it's tough because yes, now his tribe is okay. But now the whole yellow tribe who he uses this. Okay. Well, let's talk about that decision second. But I saw, so I felt like I was with Joanne on the first part of this decision. And he came back and he told his tribe, I picked the tribe disadvantage. And again, this is great. Now people aren't like, hey, let's, what if he has something? Let's go after him. So I think

Juan is doing great. Let's talk about the challenge. Here's the thing about that too with this 26 day game. I don't think that that move to help your tribe. There's not enough time for your tribe to be like, oh, thank you. Oh, it's like, because of you, we, you helped us. And now we are like completely switching our minds around to now we need you closer. I think even them helping, it's like, oh, thank you. Well, maybe we'll look at Sage first. Then we'll come after you.

I think it buys you just a little bit. Whereas I feel like self-preservation is the more immediate need. that would have helped him. So that's kind of where I'm thinking on that. Because I was like, if he had, if picking the tribe disadvantage was the right move in my mind, it would be buying greater favor

with his tribe. Where I think it was just like, oh, temporarily. Oh, yeah, thanks. Yeah. But it's not going to change their allegiance. It's not going to change too much right now, but at least he has a little bit more time. And he gets to go to the challenge

and announce, am going to be playing the tribe disadvantage and now Jeff explains the disadvantage which seemed like it was pretty heavy when Jeff was explaining it that the tribe is going to have to wear 20 pound bags of coconuts

and then also instead of one key Asia 10 keys 10 is insane I literally out loud I was like that is that is a huge disadvantage like how can anyone get past that

Yeah. I guess it just sounded bigger, but I will say. Yes. Those coconuts, that was dangerous. Yeah, because you have to be doing a lot of, like, jumping. Like, it, I feel like so many people were seconds away from, like, a, like, on concussion protocol. It's going to the blue medical scent.

Yeah. Like, what, like, like, if it were a backpack, then it's, it's fitted. Yeah. It can't move where you, but the way. Do we get a weighted vest in VG? That would be amazing. But the fact that, like, Sophie was, like, it hit her head. I was like, oh, my God.

Especially they jumped through the cargo net and you're holding a bag of coconuts. Okay. So, all right, Joanne, pick a tribe. We've got the blue tribe and we've got the yellow tribe. And he starts off by saying, like, well, the blue tribe, they've been through so much. I'm going to disadvantage the yellow tribe. And they were pissed. They were mad, Christina.

Oh, of course. Of course. Mm-hmm. Yeah, she's like, that's a shocker. And look, that's more people mad at you. Why not go for the tribe with fewer people? Yeah. Now, in a way, you know, sometimes every advantage is a disadvantage

and every disadvantage can be an advantage. Is there any thought of, if you're the Red Tribe, maybe do we vote out somebody like Sage and keep Joanne in that the other people don't like him now? Right. he's like such a has a target on his back is that a good idea

do you want to move forward in the game with somebody who okay well we know this other tribe hates him now you know that's a valid point because it wasn't like

he smooth things over in the moment he goes all right Jeff we can go when you're ready like why are you directing conversation out of nowhere Jeff doesn't like that

he yells at Colby he's like hey yeah we'll go when I'm ready brother Exactly. But Jeff ate this up. He loved it. Jeff was just so happy that there was drama on the mat chat. I mean, that's so much kumbaya. Jeff was like, all right, finally, conflict. Thank God. But they were all so mad. Sophie S was pissed. Yeah, they, I mean, he, I mean, in high, like, you know, big picture, right decision, because they are sure. strong tribe. They have six people. You want to weaken them. You want to be the only six person tribe left. But it, it seemed like, hey, I'm trying to buy favor with blue. So.

But why? So why buy favor with blue? I guess if blue is down, the other five and you have a chance to like, yeah. Like then don't you want the group to have less people that ultimately come out of that and be mad at you? Exactly. But look, it didn't even matter. Well, it matters to Joanne because now six people are mad at him

and they're still in the game. Are they still mad though? Because it didn't, you know? I think that they're annoyed at Joanne. They're happy with themselves, but I think they're still annoyed at Joanne. That's fair. Yeah, I could see that. Did you see what he tried to do?

Fricking Joanne. And was it was Matt who went through the key? and found it, like, pretty quickly to go through the ropes. Mm-hmm. So I was like, I was most concerned about 20-pound coconuts that it just seemed dangerous. Yeah. To me. I think the other thing about the decision that he made, and yes, that you get a tribe annoyed

with you, he would have had to steal someone's vote from that group. And it was either going to be Jake or Matt's vote that he would have had to have stolen. and it's not even like that the game took your vote, the monster took your vote. It would be, he would potentially have to come face to face with one of these players that he stole their vote. Like they would know it was he picked them.

Right. But do they assume, yeah, no. Because they would have. Hey, great news. I didn't lose my vote. And it's like, oh, by the way, you did lose your vote. Right. But does the parchment at when they go to tribal and they go

a vote, does it say Jawan actually stole your vote? Or does it say you don't have a vote, go back to your seat? Yeah, that's interesting. I wonder if they would, like, get in their backpack, if, or if it's Savannah in their backpack of ants, that they would get a note, by the way, you have lost your vote tonight? I would, yeah, I would imagine, you may have lost your vote. And I made it both get, like, you may have lost your vote. Oh, yeah.

We like that. Because would they assume, oh, he took both of, or he, he had to choose who to lose a vote? Mm-hmm. I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, yeah, I could see them being mad at Joanne, but it really is like he had two choices. He didn't pick a specific person.

Yeah. So I think that for that also, like, just picking the tribe, you'd rather have the tribe generally annoyed with you as opposed to one person saying that I will never work with Jewel. I hate Joanne. He stole my vote. This is what Joanne should say on the mat. figure it out later, right?

Just say, so, Jeff, me and my tribe, I told them about the disadvantage, we all discussed which tribe we should give it to, and we decided on the Hanna tribe. Yeah, maybe it was a group decision. Well, now they think it's just Joanne, but he should have blamed the group. You use we language.

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show. Asia, we didn't get to see too much out of the Yellow Tribe tonight. The only thing that we saw was really that, again, we had three people. We were looking to bring in a fourth, and it was Stephen and Matt and Christina and they said we think that MC will be a good fourth and then they went to MC and MC is like no I don't think so I'm good on that I'm not buying that you know that is a tough sale to be like the three of us want to bring you in because why would she not feel like she's the fourth in that situation yeah but I'm also wondering by her telling Sophie that Sophie, that this group of four exists and Sophie is the number one target for them.

Where does that put MC? Like, is there a position there or is there an opportunity for that to fall back on MC? Because right now she has these three over here. She has this one here. Who's the odd man out there? Oh, Jason. So I'm just like, was that,

the right move to tell Sophie? Sophie could be a little bit of a hothead where, I mean, Sophie was so mad at Joanne. Sophie was also so mad to find out that the other three people were throwing her name out there. So I don't know, maybe Sophie is going to say something. And if she does, oh gosh. I'm a freaking MC. Why did she tell on us? But then even in that, do you say, well, we got to get MC out? Or you're like, well, no, we just need to make sure we have the votes to get Sophie out. Because look at her telling people. Yeah. I'm just like, I wanted to see it being a good move. Like I wanted to see like, okay, this buys favor with Sophie while keeping that four that think that she's with them. And what's wrong with Jason? Nobody wants to make it aligns with him. I know. Poor Jason.

He's probably just out there having a great time. Mm-hmm. Well, he's solving all the puzzles. Right. He thought he was going to be flying back, uh, back to the States. And now he's just living his life on Survivor and being a target for no reason. Yeah. But Rob, speaking of puzzles. Yes. We saw this puzzle here tonight on this second immunity challenge, which was the same puzzle we had on our first immunity challenge.

Yes. And in preparation for this podcast, I solved it with my puzzle from Vexel puzzles. Yes. Shout out to Vexel Puzzles as well as Rachel Lamont. their new puzzle game puzzle hungry go listen to the podcast with you yes um but yeah i love this puzzle yeah well you all solved it so quick on survivor 47 that it was like like red has got the puzzle like and they finished it yeah exactly i wish they would have shown it because there was some some tension yeah is there a trick to that puzzle because it seems like that it's double-sided right

it's double-sided and you have to obviously solve from the bottom up but the pieces connect in a way that go to from one side to the other so you may think you have survivor on one side but then it doesn't fit correctly in the other side and the biggest element of the one on the show is everything is so heavy well we saw that the blue tribe was uh i don't think they were the first or second of their puzzle they had like a big lead over the red tribe which was really struggling and then Jeff was commenting on how they blew it, but it just seemed like that that was a matter of that brain fog. Honestly, yeah, I think so, because they couldn't even get the base.

It was like a matter of how do we start this? Like you could just see Sophie just like, oh my gosh, like where do we, how do we start this? And then Annie trying to help. But she's like, move that piece. It's like, no, it's stuck because they give you a starting piece to go off of. So you're not just like, you know, in the dark. But yeah, that definitely was the brain fog. Yeah.

Do you like when Jeff says, put it in the deep freeze? I don't really understand that. I don't really know either. It was like maybe it's just like that, okay, it's locked, locked up. It's frozen. These results are on ice. On ice. Yeah, maybe.

But that's been like a new Jeff is in the last couple seasons. You could put that in the deep freeze. I just loved hearing Christina say dig deep and her like loud like she was like screaming it so it was like deep it's a very different tone of Jeff How's your draft team doing? They're doing great. I got a MC

I got Sage Okay And I also have Alex Okay I've been a little nervous Alex is in a good position I think he's in a good position Yeah yeah I was a little worried about Alex in week one but I think that he's coming through.

He's found his groove. He has an idol now. Yeah. He's everybody, I mean, well, it's the four of them, but I think Jake is prioritizing him over Jeremiah. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to let Stephen give his official fishy when, you know, when we speak with him later on this week. But if you had an award to give Asia, what would it be called?

fault first. Probably the Aegee. Aegee. Okay. So who would you give it to? I would give, and I really hope it matches up with Stevens Fisci. But I'd probably have to give the Aegee to Alex tonight. Yep. He found an idol. He ultimately, I think he made the right decision to let Annie go. I mean, I think that basically at what cost to save Annie, where the rest of the tribe. Sophie, Jake, and especially Jeremiah, did not care for her. Yeah, they didn't. And it was like not worth it to put his neck on the line for her to use the idol everybody knew about because they're like, they were going to be like, hey, you were going to say that for us. We're

supposed to go to the verge together and have that. So it really did. It didn't cause unnecessary tension. It helped that he was in good with everybody just in case she did play her shot in the dark or something. Yeah. And she left being happy with him. Yeah, we didn't even get to talk about the Beware Advantage, which I actually thought this one was kind of clever. I know they have the whole team Flint and they have this job to create these missions on

things. And I thought this one was pretty ingenious. It was the kind of thing that there is no way one person could have done this on their own. Like one person who tried to do this would have been busted so bad of trying to be, like, trying to be like, hey, why are you walking around with chains on? Exactly. Where did you get that?

Oh, I found it over there. Oh, no, no, no. I found this, I found, you know, 92 feet of a steel chain by the well. I'm just moving it or just carrying it. I would have loved to see Sophie find this on her own and have to carry that chain like around her neck like that. That would have looked. I, she could have done it. Sophie?

I wonder how heavy it was. Sophie B? So Sophie without the E. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm not sure. But I love, I can't believe we didn't talk about this yet. So in the idol finding sequence,

and I thought this was like the, maybe even the highlight of the episode. So again, another bad job by me tonight to not get to this. But I thought that this was such a, it's very foggy. It's, I thought this was such an interesting part of the episode where Alex is looking for the box to open. And then Sophie finds the box, but she doesn't have the key. She's not the key master.

She ends up then hiding the box more with the plan of, I need to get my. hand on the key and the chain and they get back to the box and she can't do it because it's so cumbersome it's like if you need to go to the bathroom at Starbucks and they give you like the key is on like some like license plate and everybody sees like oh I'm like sage I have to go peepee I mean what's even worse is when you have to have a code and then there's a line and you don't want to look like you're skipping the line and hey what's the code for the bathroom I just need to know the code are you a customer Yeah, I just need to go out the code to the thing.

I thought that was smart on her to like at least take a beat and be like, do I want this for myself? I like that. Yeah. I thought that was great. And there was some interesting rules for the idol. And I feel like that you must have been paying very close attention during like Survivor 46. Yeah. And did Tiffany get a thing where her idol was you have to lose the challenge?

and then come back here after you lose the challenge? Is this new? You know what? I did she have to lose? They kept losing already. So I don't know because they were already losing. Yeah, I just don't remember. And maybe the chat knows if this was a first where it says like,

hey, you found the beware advantage after you lose the challenge, then come back for more instructions. Right. Because I know she had to solve the puzzle. She had to go back. Oh, maybe she did have to go back to that spot after they lost in order to do the rest. Yeah. I don't like that to like to be continued.

Come back later. There's actually so little time that afternoon, too. Right. So to have to do that as well. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I necessarily love that, but that's, I don't know if there, if that's a first. I think maybe there's some precedent on that.

But I really did love the mechanism that they have. to like do something of something that's like a predicament of like yeah well how am i going to do that right but what did you think about them bringing in jeremiah jeremiah last minute like oh i don't think they had a choice i don't they had a choice with everything yeah then it's four what is that like the um re before all over again yeah they all know about the idol so see that bonds them close together uh one other thing on jake okay what What's with this stupid shoe bandit? It has to matter some way somehow because why.

I mean, it's consistent at this point. We're going to get a shoe every episode. I could have sworn, like he's saying out loud to the group, like, oh, are these her shoes? Like, well, watch out what happens when the shoe bandit. Like, wait, did you say a shoe bandit? What's that? Nothing. Don't worry about it.

It's nothing. Yeah. I mean, I guess he's, like, getting personally, he can, like, giggle about it. But it really, they're just like, oh, this keeps happening. What's happening? It's not, I mean, I guess it's something to do and there's nothing to do. But he, he did it to Annie because she said his name. Yeah.

And the group is like, boy, this keeps happening. This is weird. Yeah. So odd. Why did this, I guess that's what we do on this beach. Should we just lose our one shoe? Mm-hmm. Okay.

And people said last week, oh, but the air time. That's why you do it. You get the air time. I mean, there's other stuff that could be done that doesn't get the air time. That will never see the light a day. I just don't know. Is there anybody who's out there and chat, let me know if this is you. We're like, oh, my God.

We're doing Jake take somebody's shoe. Oh, I love it. so much that's so good i guarantee you if someone meets him at a watch party they're going to ask him to sign their shoe sign my left shoe please please okay all right we're going to take to some of your questions here tonight let me just uh mention also we have so much fun in the survivor group chat all the alumni get together and wednesday night we watch the episode live together and we get to connect on chat BCC and the Big Brother alumni do it

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We're going to take your questions. If you have questions, you can go ahead and ask them in the chat. and let's go ahead and bring them up. And Elizabeth wants to know, how should Jeremiah play the next vote if they lose again, Asia? That's a great question because now we have Sophie, Jake, Jeremiah, and Alex. And Jeremiah at this point is the closest with Sophie, right? From what we can tell.

And then Jake, who already thinks he's running the tribe, is close with Sophie. Alex. So he's probably naturally going to think we got to get rid of Jeremiah. He knows the idol is with Alex. Alex is not going to play it on him. But then he doesn't want to lose a vote by playing the shot in the dark. If there's a way for him to get Sophie to realize that. Go two to with Jeremiah? Would she put two votes on Alex? Oh, they could if Alex has no suspicion that jaker sophy would turn on him then he wouldn't play his idol he has an idol yeah

this is the shot to blindside him right because with four people left if it's a two-two tie they just revote so in a pre-merge two-two I'm trying to think of how this would go like at what point would we make fire at some point where okay

no I think here's where I think this is like we're getting into like the Daniel Strunk territory where, okay, if Jeremiah and Sophie put their two votes on Alex and then Alex and Alex and Jake put their two votes on Jeremiah, okay, it's tied, everybody's locked in, okay, nobody flips their vote. Okay, now it's a tie again. And now I think Sophie and Jake have to draw a rock. That's what it is. Yeah. because yeah they're not going to change their mind keep it there and then yeah but would would sophie go

to rocks for jeremiah i don't think so she's right yeah she's probably gonna just say okay i'm gonna go to rocks with my number one to save jeremiah so i think maybe i think she's gonna probably then i don't even know if it's worth it yeah i think jeremiah just needs to help for something jeremiah needs to just hope they don't lose i think that's the move yeah shot in the dark it might be the navigate that. Okay. Yeah. All right. Alyssa wants to know, should Alex have pocketed the beware advantage and not shown his bromance? Seemed like his natural inclination was to immediately tell him. Absolutely. And then he had the nerve to be in his confessional later like, oh, we just have to tell everybody, everything on this tribe. Yeah. You started it by telling Jake. In fairness,

I think that it ends up being the right move for Alex because I don't think that he could have done. this without Jake. True. Based off of what it turned out to be, he could not have done it without Jake. So better to have found it with him and then really solidified that bond then to then have to go tell him,

hey, guess what I found? Yeah. Okay? All right. How about from Tyler, if Joanne had stolen a vote with the player who lost their vote find out before tribal or after tribal,

I think that they probably would have gotten a note For the drama of it all Just because they told them I think you're getting into like a Danny McCray situation Where they told them Or they didn't say anything about losing your vote They didn't, right And then if I go to tribal council

And I go to vote and I find out I lost my vote Like I'm pretty sure my head's exploding I feel like that's what would happen That's what would have happened. What do you mean I don't have a vote? Like the people would be like yelling in the voting booth. Yeah. Like if you are Jake or Alex or Jake or Matt and you go to tribal,

I feel like there was some fear going up to vote because you don't know what happened when Jawan stayed back. So I don't know. I think that they would give them a note. You may have lost your vote at, I think they like that when players like, do I have a vote or not? I don't know.

Right. Okay. Here's a question from Tyler. Can you all please talk about Jeremiah's cinematic evil laugh? What'd you think about that? My son, Dominic, he's 12. Happy birthday to Dominic this week. He was like really taken aback by the very evil maniacal laugh of Jeremiah.

That laugh is something else. Like I wonder. Was it that long, for real, for real? Or does he have breaks? Like, how do you have that much oxygen just to keep it going? It seemed like they slowed it down a little bit, but, you know, it is a signature of his. It is. He is a lapper.

Like, I mean, and I find myself laughing with him because of the laugh. Like, no matter what caused it, his laugh is funny. Yeah. That could be a good list of the. top whatever most distinctive laughs in Survivor history. Yeah. I was so sure you had clipped it. I didn't clip it for this.

Let me see. Sam is, can you play it? You have it? Okay. Hold on. We don't hear it. Oh, does it mute it?

The jar. Oh, okay. The video was muted. Okay. Whatever. Okay. But you could see it. If you were watching the video, you could see it.

Hold on. Sam is coming back. and what do you got this time? Okay? Ah, ha, ha. Yeah. I'll have it for the later podcast this week. We'll have like a laugh track on the podcast.

I just love that he has so much joy out there. Like that is something, like the fact that they don't have anything to kind of boost morale at this point, the fact that he is able to just find pure joy and no matter what he was laughing at, I love that for him. Let's, this is an interesting one from Ellis. Do you think you could sink your shot in the dark? I don't know if I would, I feel like that sink your shot in the dark

took me a second to realize what you're saying here. But I basically, can you play your shot in the dark to fake losing your vote on a journey? So hear me out on this. Like, let's say like a Thomas, last season. And maybe this is a good question to ask him tomorrow.

They said, oh, I lost my vote on the journey, but he actually got an extra vote. Goes to tribal council, plays his shot in the dark to not have a vote.

So the votes are not in the earn. And as I see, I told you guys, I lost my vote. Mm-hmm. And then plays the shot in the dark. Plays a shot in the dark because I,

I lost my vote at the... Oh, but then doesn't, like, speak up and say, I should play a match on the dark. Right, right. Basically, so they were like, oh, there were only four votes last night. So I guess, I guess Thomas was telling us the truth. But do you even know if it's the majority? Like, there, it could be a situation where Jeff didn't even read all the votes.

Yeah. Yeah. I guess, but it is, that is interesting. I like that outside the box thinking by Alice. Yeah. Okay. Um, question from Ken's wants to know. Will anyone from this season top Saul's jury fashion, or will he be the reigning new era fashion icon?

I think Saul is definitely going to be the reigning new era fashion icon. I mean, look at the cover of the Zaddy calendar for 2026. He has that on lock. I don't think it would be very hard to top Saul. Yeah. Almost impossible. It would be tough, but I think these players, they would have seen all of Survivor 47. they understand the assignment on the jury.

So we'll see if there's any jury fashion that is really on par with Saw. And let me give me one more question from Tommy Guam wants to know. Can a later days woman win Survivor? We saw Trashy Annie not have great success. Sue couldn't get any votes in the final three. Yeah.

I think a later day's woman can. Oh, because Julie. Yeah, I'm old enough to remember Mama Jay or even Maria was like right there at the end of the game where... That was her game to lose. Yeah. And, you know, they say in Starved 45 that Julie would have been the person to beat if she got to the end. Maria seemed like that she was, at least from the edit, looked like a person who had a really good shot to win if she got there. So it just seems like that if a later days older woman, and I could say that because probably

they would be the same age as me and if they were on the show, and if like they're good enough to win, I feel like they get voted out. And if they're not going to win, they get to the end and get no votes. Hey, I'm 33 and I would be on the older woman tribe at this age. so yeah yeah so i think a older you know 40 plus woman i think can still win survivor i think it's possible yeah yeah i definitely think it's possible i think it's just the yeah like you just said mama jane maria 50 that's like half the cast exactly it could happen by in you six months the odds are great so if it's going to happen this is going to be the year all right asia

Anything else about tonight's episode of Survivor? You know, I like the season so far. I think there are some very interesting people. Like if you don't, if you think beyond the format of the game, which I do feel is a little stale in that, all you got to know is go out there and get a four and you're fine. Yeah. I think that.

Yeah, go ahead. I want to add to your point. Okay. I think people are playing. things a little bit differently. I like Rizzo last week using his resources and getting it done. You know, I'm I'm liking the people, which I think helps be entertained by what, you know, is in front of me. So I'm enjoying the season. Yeah. I think that this is going in the right direction. But just to, you know, speak to your point, especially here at the start of the season, that this is quote unquote, the new era. Okay. It's, it's new. But guess what?

It doesn't real, like, we've been doing the new era for five years. And, you know, at this point, you know, it's a little bit just copy-paste. And never before in the history of the show, as somebody, you know, who has really, you know, studied the history of the show, like, it's all, the game is always evolving. the game, they would say this, but the game is really just very much samey same, and sometimes the players are different

and the new characters bring new things to it and sort of the meta evolves, but you know, we've just like been just in this part where even from like the beginning of the new era into like, okay, the game was sort

of changing from you know what it was in 41, 42, but like really kind of from like 45 on like we've sort of just like okay settled into this is what it is and we're just like running it back and we haven't really had like a big twist to the game or a change in the format in you know since we've come back from the new era I yeah I mean even looking at the preview that was our third immunity challenge in the water jumping off the platform. So that's kind of like, ooh, you know, we love Survivor. We love it, but also part of Survivor was that it was, it was always changing. It was always like a slightly different and we would try new

things. But we're very much like, okay, this is basically now, this is what it is. Yeah. I mean, especially with if Fiji is going to be the standard, which it is, which now, like, especially being there is like, I love what has done for the Fijian community and just, like all the, you know, all the boat crews are all Fijian, and you see Fijian people everywhere, which is so awesome, you know, and they have buffs from years back. But if that's going to be the case, I love that for them. Yeah. And if that's the case, let the game be the thing that is just like so different.

You know, it's just like, okay, we know there's going to be fight for supplies. We know it's going, you know, we know we just need to get a four. We know it, you know, I don't know. 50 will be a good reset. Yeah, me. If it is vastly different. And maybe they're saving all the new stuff for 51. It's like, hey, just do it. Just do it the same way one more time for 49. And we've got a lot of stuff for, we're throwing the kitchen sink at this in 50. So I just would love to see a little bit more novelty. Innovation. Or let's try something different. This is the season where we have this day one twist and just yeah i mean that's what it was yeah and it worked for a long time

yeah two tribes of nine let's go for it let's do it you know what would be the downside exactly i don't see one yeah okay all right asia let's talk about what else is coming up over on the patron feed we had a great start to the season club condo we're not just talking about survivor 40 We are talking about all of the wild stuff that goes on every single week in the Survivor Multiverse. And we're talking about it with Chappelle on our Patreon. Whatever club you belong at, check it out. A club condo on Patreon. Then I will be doing the Survivor Q&A.

I have a lot of fun on Fridays talking with you, the patrons of Robits podcast. People call in. We answer all of your questions. about Survivor 49 and Beyond, I'll be live at 3 p.m. Eastern for that on our patron feed. Of course, check out all of the other podcasts this week, including my appearance on why blank lost 10-year anniversary edition, including the B&B Global Survivor and Survivor News on the Purple Pants podcast. That's all at we know survivor.com. Also, Asia, tonight, The Amazing Race aired, and I'll be back with Mike Bloom and Jessica

Elise to talk about everything from The Amazing Race. And I'll have an exit interview as well. Are you following the Amazing Race, Asia? Absolutely. I am so pumped about this season. I was just smiling like a little kid watching episode one. Just so excited to see all these Big Brother people racing around the world. Yes.

Are you normally a race fan? I am. Okay. I do typically watch The Amazing Race. It's one of those is just like a feel-good show. Yep. You know? I know you are an international traveler.

You just went to Australia. Yeah, shout out to Shannon Gus. Mm-hmm, okay. Also, we had a great podcast, and this podcast has done Bafo numbers. Check out Eric Stein's Mastermind Confession, and Taryn and I got the chance to sit down with Eric Stein. He told us exactly how he pulled off the mastermind twist for Big Brother 27, right underneath our nose, Asia. Listen, I had a friend who reached out to me and said that Eric Steinpod was very entertaining. Okay.

So she loved it. Yeah. Very fun podcast with Eric. And I hate to say it. But in terms of like innovations and trying new things, big brother is eating Survivor's lunch. Like big brother. like they're like we're not calling it anything it's big brother 27 we're just going to come back but every season of big brother like uh that used to say that the rap on big brothers like they

do the same thing every single time big brothers trying way more new stuff than survivor exactly I mean even the AI arena last season becoming a staple this season and the mastermind stuff they really put a bow on that I was like okay I didn't see the vision but I'm here now Eric sign. Okay. All right, Asia, love is blind. Love is blind. It dropped six episodes today for season nine on Netflix. I believe

the city is Denver. And Mary, Jason and I are back to talk about this season. So we'll be giving a recap of episodes one through three that'll be dropping this weekend. And then we'll give a recap of four through six early next week. So we'll be back to talk about each of these batches of

episodes. They're really cranking out these seasons, Rob. Yeah. Maybe Love is Blind going and operating in the new era survivor playbook of like, hey, it ain't broke. We ain't fixing it. Exactly. I think the people provide so much variety. Although they do change the city at least. Yes, exactly. But the formula is copy paste. Okay. There you go. Love is blind. And then busy Thursday, I will have my exit interview coming up. with Trashy Annie plus Thomas and Bianca. And then I will get into the amazing race. I have a live recap of that with Mike Bloom and Jessica Lees coming up, I believe, Thursday night at 8 p.m. Eastern.

Asia, where could people keep up with you? Well, first of all, thanks for having me, Rob. I did not write a book named Escape, but I do love Escape rooms. Yes, that's right. It felt adjacent. I meant to say that Stephen Fishback. wanted me to tell everybody the one thing that would make him feel better is if you pre-ordered escape go to stephenfishback.com he said that was the one thing in his very failing health

that that would make him feel better he thought that that could maybe give him a little bit of a morale boost so yeah from his from his bed he texted me please let the listeners know that's the one thing that might make him feel better Yeah. And I made my pre-order a while ago. And so I'm so excited to get my book when it does ship. But yeah, everybody can find me at Asia like Asia. That's A-Y-S-H-A like ASHA, like ASIA. Like I said, Love is Blind. We have Married at First Site season 19 coming on Peacock at the end of this month. So keep a look out for that. Just subscribe to the Love at First Site feed. That's where all of those podcasts go. And yeah. All right. Well, Asia, thank you for, uh,

Thank you for forging your own path and saying yes to the adventure of Survivor No-at-alls tonight. Yeah, you never know what's going to happen. Okay. Thank you so much, everybody. Take care of a good one. Bye.