RHAP: We Know Survivor - Know-It-Alls: Survivor 50 Ep 7 Recap

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

Know-It-Alls: Survivor 50 Ep 7 Recap Survivor 50 heats up as Rob Cesternino and Stephen Fishbach return for Survivor Know-It-Alls, dissecting a wild merge episode full of shifting alliances, risky vote splits, and big personalities. This week, Rob and Stephen break down the tidal wave of strategic chaos that sweeps through the 14-person Tribal Council, as Coach tries to seize control and D’s game hits a turning point. The hosts dig into how a “normal” vote quickly devolves into drama, tension, and blindsides. The merge episode explodes with fractured alliances and distrust as Coach pushes for a complicated vote split to flush out D, fearing her power and reputation as the last winner standing. The “Honor and Loyalty Five” try to keep a stronghold, but voting blocks with players like Rick, Emily, Christian, and the powerful trio of Cirie, Ozzy, and Rizo keep options open. Strategic fumbles, such as spilling secrets about idols and playing hard with the numbers, shake up the game. Cirie works her subtle social magic behind the scenes, while Rizo emerges as an unlikely swing player—everyone seems to see him as “their guy.” Meanwhile, Tiffany tries to dodge the fallout after her allies fall, and Stephenie confronts her own endurance challenge to earn an advantage. – Coach’s chaotic push for a vote split leaves the tribe on edge and exposes his fragile grip on power – D’s peril as a known winner sparks debates on whether loyalty or threat level matters more – Subtle gameplay from Cirie turns tiny moments into major shifts, quietly influencing power players’ decisions – Rizo maneuvers into the middle, juggling offers from big alliances while never becoming the main target – Stephenie’s journey delivers both a physical test and a secret advantage, as the OGs and new schoolers recalculate their positions As battle lines blur and social bonds crack, Rob and Stephen question: Will Coach’s control hold, or will it backfire immediately? Who actually benefits from D’s blindside? And is Rizo’s social flexibility genius or just lucky timing? Don’t miss a moment of Survivor 50’s vote splits, idol plays, and ever-evolving alliances—listen now for the Know-It-Alls’ full breakdown! Chapters: 0:00 Haiku Challenge Kicks Off Episode 6:36 Coach Attempts Controlling Split Vote 13:16 Cirie, Ozzy, Rizo Alliance Forms 17:08 D’s Heated Exchange With Jonathan 25:55 D Betrays Alliance, Ousted 32:10 Rizo Secures Spot With Cirie 41:38 Chrissy Identified As Glue Player 47:45 Aubry Idol Blunder, Peer Pressure 48:59 Stephenie Wins Steal-A-Vote Advantage 50:40 Fishy Award Debate: Rizo vs Jonathan To pre-order Rob’s book, The Tribe and I Have Spoken, visit www.robhasabook.com To order Stephen’s novel Escape!, visit stephenfishbach.com Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

Here's that beautiful intro that you love, Stephen. The Survivor No It All right. We're about to break it down like that won. The game a million times. At all? Survivor, No at All. The Survivor, No It all. It's Stephen Fishback coming to you from his other country of origin.

Canada. Back in the motherland. Back in Toronto, the motherland. Yes. Where all the mothers, where Genevieve and all the other mothers are from. Camilla. I mean, Canada. Yes, all of them.

And that's where we'll be in but two weeks when RJP returns to Canada for the live show. But Stephen is out with the Litterati. Wait, you're going to be true. It's not tonight? Oh, I've got the dates wrong. Oh, what a missed connection. What a snapoo. Okay.

Stephen, you know, it says in the Survivor Podcast bylaws that every Survivor podcast needs to start this week with a haiku. And so... Oh, no, I wasn't ready for this. So... You better... If you're... Yes, I'm ready.

I'm ready. Okay? Yeah. Here we go. Five, seven, then five. Mm-hmm. Coach counts, syllables, and votes. D caught eight.

So sad. Was that it? Was that 575? What do you think about instead of last week, instead of the blood moon? Rob Sestronino is like the start of a, that's good. Rob Sesterino is the start of a line. Like that's five syllables right there. Okay. Well, we got, I mean, that feels like there's got, you know,

we'll see what social media can do with that. What do you think about last week instead of the blood moon? Should they have done like the death by haiku and then you have two tribes of five and one tribe of seven? at the final 17. Is that what they should have done? That would be, that would have been amazing. How could they? That's, that's for the, that's for next season. Okay, a lot to break down. I am very excited on Thursday. Of course, we'll have our exit interview with Dee. And then your friend and mine,

Jeremy Collins is going to be on the podcast coming up on Thursday. You disown him? You know, you see, I saw like Sophie, uh, Sophie Blu Sof gave the people who voted for her, like some present. Yeah, we never gave me any present. And he won. He won the money. He can buy me a present. Yeah. Okay.

Well, he has a family, you know. Yeah. Like me. Like I'm part of his family, right? Like, you are part of the family now. Anyway, so a lot to break down. First off, could I say, let me extend to the survivor producers. A, you know, we jump on them.

We get mad and we criticize. Can I give an add-a-boy to the survivor powers that be? everybody loves an attaboy hey you let us have a normal vote at the final 14 I'm sure that that wasn't easy I'm sure that there were voices that said hey

don't we need to make seven and seven but you let us play Survivor and we appreciate it and it wasn't the most exciting vote and I'm sure that maybe like it's it's kind of a blowout for the we blew it we should know you did the right thing and not every vote is going to be scintillating

but here's here's where I here's what's exciting was the lead up to the vote was exciting right like it was really fun it was really interesting to see the strategy it was interesting to see the character development and I feel like that's where the misconnection is like it doesn't have to be and I didn't know I thought coach was I thought I literally legitimately thought coach was going like so for me it was like there was tension in the tribal council like I feel like they get it in their heads like oh it was a whatever like seven five one vote um you know what a waste like if we only had two split travel councils. But like, there was a lot of intrigue. And then the strategizing was really cool to watch. It was cool to watch all these little factions break off. And, you know, that whole, the whole thing where coach is trying to take control of 14 people on a beach. And he's like, you get to know this thing. And you get to know that thing. And you get to do this. Like, what, that's what's interesting about Survivor is just like the personality under stress. Not like whether we in a group of seven can figure out what four is. Yeah. And I also feel like that while this was not the most exciting vote there ever was on Survivor.

It is still so fun to spend time with these characters here in this setting in season 50. So I was thoroughly entertained across this episode. Yeah. So I do appreciate them, not throwing the bag of rocks. Because I saw those two teams in the challenge. I'm like, uh, here we go again. We're going to do a split tribal council. But when Jeff said, hey, and then there's going to be one immunity challenge winner,

I was like, hey, how about this? How about this? Yeah. I don't know how many more times that we'll be able to say this that we had just a normal vote and one person who gets voted out. I think we will have to have more

double tribal councils along the way to get to the end. But I was grateful to the Survivor producers for letting us have this 14 person supersized tribal council. This was so fun. I loved all the strategizing on the beach.

You know, and then that's where like this tension happens. Like that's where you get, you know, Rick feeling mad that he's being told what to do by coach so he like goes and tries to get other people like hey should we vote out coach and then like then d's got a whole counterinsurgency like there's a lot of drama well i feel like that you can relate to this i think that one of the things that you've always talked about since you came back from

survivor second chance was at the merge in that season which i believe was a 13 person merge you've also always told the stories of how chaotic that was to also i think similarly was that also like a nine to four vote against cast that was at the uh 13 person merge in that season yeah Yeah, that's right, because, yeah, it was Cass and the witches were all kind of, I don't know, was Cass a witch. I don't remember who was a witch and who wasn't a witch. But yeah, I think that's right. They all voted for, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, remember who they voted for.

And you've always talked about how, like, how do you, and it becomes a big deal. Ultimately, I think the next vote is the Wentworth does not count famous vote, where you've talked about this about how difficult it is to really herd cats and try to get a split vote in a situation where there's, so many disparate interests. And that's what's so incredible. And that's what I thought was so, like, interesting about this episode was coach trying to control 14 people in a vote, which is so hard, you know, like everyone's breaking off. And not only is he trying to control what the vote is and who's voting for whom,

but he's even trying to control what information, what each little faction of this vote has. I mean, one thing we've seen from Survivor 50, nobody can control the information. Like, these people are, you happen. And so it was just like, I just like, it was such like, to me, like a pure character moment where like this guy just like,

you know, like that's what's hard about Survivor is like relinquishing control. Yeah. I want to talk about Dee and we'll get to her. But tell me what is going on with coach? It really seems like all throughout season 50, we've seen like a pretty measured coach, Coach 4.0. Coach is really, you know, in this new season of his life. He's got it all figured out. He is the Tidewalker. And it seems like that is coach has kind of snapped here in this episode. Something snapped. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see if this was kind of like a one-off snap. Because I feel like people could have just like bad days, you know, and kind of like go crazy for a day. I certainly had those days where I was like, ah, they're all coming for me. I got to.

You know, and I do think the thing with D really rattled him, where he had that kind of misstep with D last week. He said, Emily's coming for him. Suddenly there's distrust with D, who he's been playing with all game. And I think, you know, at the start of this episode, he was almost, you know, he was like kind of like sullen. You know, in this hammock, he looked sad almost, like more than he did Manning. And I do think there was some part of him that just got rattled

where he's been playing a very controlled game, to your point. And then he makes some big misstep, and he just like, oh, God, like now I've effed up everything. You know, I think maybe he's a little bit of a catastrophist. And suddenly he goes into overdrive mode to overcompensate. I wonder if he will be able to kind of like calm down again now that he sort of had this like manic episode. I just don't quite know where it came from.

He was with the group that voted out Colby. It wasn't, he voted for Colby. He was part of that tribal council. where it wasn't like he came back from tribal council and found out, oh my God, they got Colby. It wasn't like he came back from a tribal council. I'm like, oh, my God, D betrayed us. That already happened.

He already was on the beach with D and Jonathan. He comes back to find out that Jonathan has betrayed D. And I'm not sure necessarily what it was about that, where that Jonathan was exposed and he felt like that he needed to like, okay, this is it where the battle lines are drawn. We heard about for the first time in this episode, the Four Horsemen, which news to me, not sure if it's news to coach that there already were a Four Horseman alliance on Survivor,

it did not go particularly great for the original for Horseman. But maybe, you know, Stephen, that in 2026, intellectual IP is dead, other than Escape, that there's not a ton of new IP. that's out there. So maybe is this a reboot of the original Four Horseman Alliance? We're back in Fiji. Oh, those four horsemen ally.

Oh, those four horsemen. Okay, yeah. The Alex. Edgardo. And Alex. Mookie. Who's the fourth? Dreams, I believe.

Right, of course. So it's hard to find a fourth in the four horsemen historically on Survivor. That's always the tricky part. And so, Colby. I feel like Chrissy got passed over here. Like, why did it go straight to Rizzo?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, why can't. Hey, why can't Chrissy be the fourth horseman, coach? Yeah. It has a, you know, it's 2026. Isn't it time for a horsewoman? Yeah.

No. But in all seriousness, okay, let's be, let's be serious here today. Okay, we've got a 14-person vote to talk about. So, Coach did seem to say, he was just off in this episode to the point where that he was going to war to the point where he's now rallying the troops to do a split vote. He says that, hey, if there's anything about coach, you know, you know you can count on me in one of these big votes, you know, famously as Boston Rob was able to count on him

to, you know, get votes against Russell, certainly. You know, you always count on coach for this type of thing. But he is really trying to round up these troops, and he ends up with this configuration of seven and four. And so there's 14 people left. The three people left out, I guess are D, Tiffany, and Christian. These are the middle players that he doesn't want to include in the vote. Well, I didn't understand about, like, I thought like maybe there was the middle, like Rick was a middle player, right?

Rizzo said Rick is a middle player. Rick was being told looped in. No, but according to Rizzo, Rick is in the middle. So there's this conversation between coach and Rizzo where, Rizzo says to coach, like, hey, you told Rick, and so I think like there's like maybe this like, still this perception of this like new era alliance than this old era alliance.

And maybe the middle people are like the ricks and the emilies of the Christians of the world. In Rizzo. But who's the third person who's left? Rizzo, I think, is seeing the board correctly that those are the middle players. The Genevieve rats to be dealt with before the war. I think that that is astute about that

those are the middle players in the game. But, you know, coach is saying seven votes on, again, assuming that coach has this all mapped out, there needs to be seven votes on D and four votes on Tiffany so that that means that there is a group of three that's left out of the vote. Presumably D and Tiffany are left out of the vote.

I think that third person that's being lumped in with D and Tiffany must be Christian who has never spent one second on the beach with either D or Tiffany. Could it be Emily? Because she's new era. She's D's original. season. Like that would be like a more reasonable third person. There's not enough numbers. There's only

14. So seven and seven and eleven. I'm saying like I'm saying that it's it's d Tiffany and emily who are like the three who are left out. But then he can't be saying like who told Christian because Christian would have to be in the but he's not mad that Christian knows who to vote for. He's mad that Christian knows there's a split vote.

So I think maybe he thinks Christian is is meant to this is where where I think it goes a little haywire is like he's I think he thinks that Christian is just meant to know who, like, get his marching orders and follow them, not know the grand strategy. Christian, you just meant to know, hey, the vote tonight is D and not meant to know that there are also going to be four votes going on Tiffany. Or he knows that it's Tiffany because, you know, as we know, there's a real conflict over who gets to vote for D, who has to vote for Tiffany, which is a very, a very funny conflict. You know, but that's what it's great about Rick's line about it,

is like, Rick's like, this is a very straightforward vote split. Like, there's no reason for it to be this complicated, like, to like say, like, Christian, you can know this much, but you can't know that much. Stephen, do you feel like that in, and I know in D's very own season in Survivor 45, okay, let's just put all the votes on Caleb and he hits the shot in the dark, but do you think that all of the chaos

that ensues out of the vote split, is the juice worth the squeeze for D's one in six shot that she's going to play the shot in the dark? You're not even worried about the situation where somebody is going to play the idol on her because of the way that the Billy Elish boomerang idol and it kind of stagnates the gameplay a little bit

with all due respect to Billy Elish, friend of the show. And she made this idol that it can only be gotten back if you blindside somebody. But now we sort of took away the option that Aubrey is going to say, hey, you know what? I'm burning my idol tonight,

but I'm playing it on D. And makes a big moment out of that. That's off the table. So you're really only protecting against the shot in the dark. You know where all of the other idols are in the game. So was the vote split even necessary here? Well, this is Baciel. This is what he said about, you know, basically that.

This was his strategy in 45 was that it's not worth the extra added strategy risk of something going haywire, which really almost happened here, right? Or we don't know how likely it was that it was going to happen, but it sure looked like it was in the cards. I agree. We have a lot of different factions. So Baciel's, this was Baciel's argument was that, you know, the risk strategically of creating dissension, of creating room for a third faction, of creating confusion does not outweigh that one in six chance. That said, I mean, it's, you know, coach is kind of an old school player. Yeah. But coach also cited, much like Bacil, he cited the sort of Damechle's.

And I feel like that it's very interesting that the only two times the sort of Damechlees is ever mentioned in the history of Survivor. It only comes up when we're talking about a season with Dee and Emily. So maybe one of them is Damocles and one is the sword. Do you think that maybe that coach might have been a little bit spiraling considering that maybe, was he thinking that, okay, Tiffany and Dee were going to, if not writing his name down, that they were going to maybe write down Jonathan's name. And so if the vote split didn't work, coach was going to, he just lost Colby.

maybe if the shot in the dark hits, he's going to lose perhaps Jonathan as his number one and basically end up in a situation where now the game is slipping away from him. Do you think that that was part of it? Well, but it was him, right? He was in the crosshairs.

So I think he was aware of that. I don't think he was aware that he was in the crosshairs. He don't think he knew. Tiffany wrote down his name. I think people were whispering about him, but I think he made a thought that maybe it was going to be Jonathan

that was going to be the person who gets taken out a shot in the dark. Let's talk about, so, like, the question of, like, what happened with coach? I think it does go back to this scene with Coach D. and Jonathan. And what was interesting, I kind of

want to talk through, because I didn't totally catch it. I want to rewatch it, but I haven't yet. Where, like, Jonathan claims that he's, like, gassing D up, that he is trying to, like, get D to get heated and say something big that's going to, like, put this target on her.

Now, he claims, like, mission accomplished. What was it that Dee said? Because it did seem like that's kind of where, like that was the crucible of this whole conflict. It seemed like Jonathan was taking credit for something. I wanted to talk to you about that as well, where Jonathan did take credit for it. But I noticed that what was interesting was that D in her final words,

she also talked about maybe I shouldn't have gotten so hot with Jonathan. So D also seemed to be looking back and thinking that, hey, there was something that went wrong in that conversation with Jonathan. maybe it was the part that was the most damning, perhaps that wasn't in the episode, or maybe there was a little bit of a telephone game of, hey, this is how Dee is and maybe just sort of like the word of that conversation. But I didn't hear her slip up and say anything that seemed particularly damning in that exchange. It just was so interesting that both Jonathan took credit for Mission Accomplished and she even referenced it in her final words. as something that really hurt her. Yeah, I mean, she said we're all lying to each other.

You know, did she say that she had, I mean, she said she, did she say she deceived Jonathan? Did she say she deceived coach? I mean, she did sort of own up to that, that she had deceived both of them. And maybe it was just that. Like, you know, it's so, you know, we have this like big speech from coach about this in season 50,

people aren't going to be lying to each other. And so maybe it was that sense that D, could be kind of scheming against him. And D, sort of the one winner left, hugely dangerous player, you know, by many considered to be,

me included, to be like one of the best winners of the new era. You know, I would be scared if he was coming for me. And maybe that's what kind of triggered this in coach, was this fear that like, oh, wow,

D, this like superpowered player is coming for me. And then it kind of like leads to this overreaction where he then sort of marshals everyone against her. Yeah, I think you're on to something, You know, D and Jonathan and Coach, they were all together from the beginning of the game. I think that maybe coach was counting on maybe some kind of, hey, original callo.

You know, I've got my other four horsemen, but I also, we have the original callo as a thing. I know that they're not coming for me. And then it was sort of like that there was a reveal of, wait, D was lying to us. And I thought that we had D and Tiffany, that they were, you know, going to be part of my coalition in the merge. and then, oh, wait, hold on, now that's all falling apart. And coach, I think maybe was like, okay, well, maybe none of this is real. Maybe the battle lines are drawn. So I think that when we put it in that context, I think that that probably explains why he's feeling the way he's feeling at this particular point.

Do you think, too, I mean, like, there was also this whole subplot with Dee telling too much about Rizzo's idol. Like maybe Rizzo and Sari would have gone to bat for D, but they lose trust in her. It's so interesting because on this season, everybody knows everything. And it's funny that this one transgression with information, and then Emily going and telling Rizzo about it, which is also funny, is what potentially contributes to D's ouster.

Once you've got Ceres' blessing on the hit, then the godfather has blessed it. So these factions, I think, are really interesting where we could take a look, Stephen, I think maybe we have some voting blocks on our hands where... Let's bring out the whiteboard. So I did a video this past week where I talked about how I saw this vote. And I said they'll never do a vote at the final 14.

But just for the sake of it, let's talk about... And I outlined that there was... I felt like that there was a group of nine against this group, the Honor and Loyalty Five, which... That Honor and Loyalty Five does seem like that they are a thing. But I feel like that the group of nine is trying... to hide themselves to some degree. And that's probably the wrong way to look at it because it makes it sound like I'm actually right.

But there are factions that I think that they're all trying to act like that they are actually with the honor and loyalty five. And I think that the other factions had to sign off on this. And of course, we have the Christian, Rick, Emily faction, who ultimately do go along with Coach's plan, even though they seem to to be tiring of coaches' antics at this point. But more importantly, as you brought up, the, the Rizard, what is it, Cerreese, Wizard of Oz. Seri's Wizard of Oz. A real mouthful, but get the merch going.

Why not? And so you have Rizzo, Suri, and Ozzie. And I think that that's a good point by you, that without that threesome, that the Polly three, if they don't sign off on this, this move doesn't have. happen. Yeah. And it seems like Surrey specifically, you know, because like, Rizzo's like, well, can we, you know, could we lose D? And then Ceri's like, just maybe. What I love about about Ceri, by the way, sidebar, just the way she just like doesn't even say anything. She'll like give like, she'll raise an eyebrow and then, and then like that's like the whole world moves,

you know, like when she goes and talks to Stephanie, she's like, did you? You know, and then says, like, okay, here's, here's what really happened and here's my advantage and here's, you know. Yeah, that was really a beautiful Ceri Fields moment. where she comes to Stephanie and she doesn't do the thing that you would expect most of I was to do, like, tell me the truth. You're lying, right? Like, are you sure? Like, she just comes over to like, okay, all right, yeah. Oh, yeah, you got it.

Oh, sure. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You know, she's just like, like, laughing and agreeing with her. It's like, okay. Yeah.

All right. Fine. Fine. Yeah. You know? It was just so perfectly done. There was, it was like a no pressure fold on step or it was just like that she just came to her and just by the sheer like, like smiling at her. Got her to completely unravel.

Yeah. It's great. No, it's she's, I mean, she, this is why she's the best. Like there's no, like you said, there's no pressure. There's no like hard sell. there's no confrontation. It's just like, all friendly, all friendly. Oh, you.

Oh, you. We know each other. It was so also beautiful to watch that she says, I promise you, I'm not going to tell anybody to instantly goes right to tell Rizzo. I have to tell Rizzo. Obviously tell Rizzo. But like even when, I mean, even in her like interaction with Aubrey where like she's like, okay, just don't forget.

I don't know. She's just like so many little subtle. Yeah. You know, it just like feels like she's like the little finger of, of this whole world, you know? But like in a good way, not in like self-destructive way. Yeah. And nobody's saying her name at all.

Yeah. Nobody, which is crazy. Don't forget, Dee and Surrey, maybe he was keen to know this that D was probably the last person to say Surrey's name, that her friend Mel said, hey, why don't you vote out Surrey? Yeah. Okay. Mel, even though, yeah.

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WestJet, where your story takes off. Let's talk about D and where she ultimately went wrong. She ends up being the mayor of Ponderosa, and she ends up being the last winner left in Survivor 50. I'd love to talk a little bit about D where it all went wrong. You know, it's a little bit of, you know, you live by the pregame, die by the pregame, and she wanted to keep Rizzo around in the game. Rizzo did not necessarily reciprocate the goodwill. that Dee extended to Rizzo by really she put her neck out to bring Rizzo in and take Charlie out. And ultimately, that Charlie vote turns out to be a really big swing in the game.

I agree. I think, like, we talk about it every season. You know, as soon as you shatter trust within your alliance, then like all, you know, no, all, all bets are off. Like, no strings attached. we as you know suddenly Jonathan is absolutely liberated to you know vote where where he wants you know he's you she betrayed him first and I think there was really no reason I mean the reason we talked through it at the time right the reason made sense the reason to vote out Charlie was she didn't want to be told you know basically like what to do in that in this vote like she wanted to play her own

game but at the time we also said it was maybe a little aggressive like for this player who is considered to be this big threat to betray this group that gives her a lot of insulation. You know, it was her sort of, you know, Kalo Shield. You know, this group of players that seem to be like working really well together. As soon as she betrays them and like really betrays Jonathan with his number one, then like you're like alienating the whole group. And then that's creating a lot of just distrust within it. And I think that I think that's what happened today, you know, or this episode, is that Jonathan still raw from that, but also maybe like wanting to get the high ground after having voted out Camilla,

kind of like gets her going. And then that worries coach. And then coach is the one who sets in this play. Like I kind of feel like Jonathan was the prime mover of this whole shenanigans today. Just to go back to Dee and the Rizzo, Charlie of it all, I think that she probably sensed that there was an opportunity with Rizzo in that. Nobody else knows this guy. And, you know, if she did get the chance to, you know, touch base with him before she

went out there. He has an idol. I think she felt like, hey, this is a guy who's going to be loyal to me. I'm going to keep him in my back pocket. The problem is that Rizzo has not reciprocated that loyalty to her. And almost every other one of the returning players seems to look at Rizzo in the same way of, oh, I'm going to pick. This is a piece for me to pick up. This is my person who doesn't know anybody who I'm going to put, we even saw coach make that same mistake in this episode where, hey, I'm going to bring Rizzo in and bring him into the fold. And so I think that she felt like I'm going to trade out Charlie who is doing his own thing, that he's not as, he wants to go after Rizzo.

I want to keep him for myself. In reality, Rizzo may have been more loyal to Sari in that time being. And so Sari ends up being probably the biggest beneficiary of the Charlie vote where that she gets no blood on her hands for Charlie going home. Charlie wasn't going to be working with Surrey. Dee and Camilla ultimately end up falling by the wayside. They take all the heat from Jonathan about that. And Surrey is the one who really is able to get the unfettered fruits of having the Riz God in her back pocket.

Now, is he in her back pocket? So, like, why, Surrey? Is this just Rizzo's choice? Does Rizzo just like, Rizzo's got all these people coming to him and like, hey, Ceri's the best. I want to go with Ceri. or is there something about that relationship that's, you know, is it something beyond

beyond just his love of Ceri? Why is it that one that he's choosing? Instead of coach. So I think that he does not look at coach as somebody who he can play the game with. You saw him chastising coach for telling Rick Devons about the middle players. And so it doesn't seem like that's his type of person

that he wants to work with. It's a good question of why Cerey. out of anybody, but first of all, you know, Surrey is that good. And I think that she is like really very much keeping him in line and she can tell if he is going to be stepping out. I think that also she's matched him up with Ozzy. He doesn't have a ton of other options. Also, in terms of his original tribe configuration, if you take a look back to that original VATU tribe, and I've talked about this in terms of Genevieve, but that whole tribe, and not to bring Survivor 49 back into this, but it was just extremely snake bit.

Other than Stephanie and Aubrey, I think the whole rest of the tribe besides Rizzo is gone. So it is wild to think that a tribe of eight, that five people, I believe, are gone now from that original VATU tribe in what, Kyle, Colby, Genevieve, Q, and Angelina. So, yeah, five of that eight is gone. and so, you know, he doesn't have a ton of options from his original grouping. And so I don't think that people are necessarily sniffing out that Surrey and Rizzo are particularly tight. And so it feels like that it's a really advantageous relationship. He doesn't have Savannah anymore.

So he doesn't, he never played with any of the people that were on that original Sela tribe or that, that disaster version of the tribe that, you know, the, you know, Christian or Emily's And so he's been matched up with Ozzy through Surrey. And I don't think he really has a lot of other paths to go down. Well, he could be the Four Horsman, though. I'm saying, like, what is it about this? Like, Rizzo's a very self-interested player, right? Like, I do think he's a fan and he's going to, like, pick, like,

hey, I want to, like, be with, like, cool big players. Like, I get to be with Surin Ozzie. That's cool. But I also think, like, he's also a very strategic player. He doesn't want to be with an alliance with Jonathan and coach and Joe. Yeah. I just think in general, like, it's a really. really good group for him to be with

Surrey and Ozzy because Ozzy is going to be a huge target right and they're both going to be huge targets and and Surrey like is always struggles right at the end game where she like you know just getting over to the finish line so like I think that's a really good trio for him where if he's

with coach and Jonathan like maybe they're not maybe he's suddenly seen as like the big strategic target there he's a girl's guy he doesn't want to be in a guy's alliance Riz God yeah yeah um but it is is interesting. And I think that is like, I think that's a really great observation that so much of, you know, it's just like who of Dee's game was thinking that this was her pocket ally.

Yeah. And she was wrong. Yeah. I want to talk more just about Dee and ultimately her game here where she came in and that Kalo tribe really was very interesting. We had people gunning for her from the jump where you heard Chrissy and Jonathan talking about her from the very start of the game. I think people were afraid of D. It seems like that she then was able to stabilize things a bit. And we talked about the Charlie vote. But I really was surprised just how much things had turned against her here at this start of the merge. Well, I do think, I mean, listen, having been in a 13-person vote, I do think like there's a lot of just like, okay, there's too much going on.

Let's just settle on somebody and put the number and put the votes on that. So I think given how vocal coach was, and suddenly he's like, okay, it's D, you know, and here's why. Everyone's like, fine. Like, it's not me. It's not my faction. Dee doesn't have that insulation. You know, if he doesn't have Rizzo and Surrey stepping up for her, she's only got TIF, you know, Christian and Rick and Emily, like they don't, I mean, I guess Emily does to some degree,

but, like, really don't have any strategic scheme in that game. She just doesn't have the defense. And for someone to come out and say, okay, it's you. I think that's with like so many people on the beach, you're just like, all right, like, fine, I'm going to go along with this. Like, you don't want to make your move here. You don't want to, like, stick your head up right here.

What do you think saves coach in this vote from being the person who goes home? It seemed like that if you could start to count the numbers and you start to get close to at least half of 14, where you're talking about Emily and Christian and Rick and then D and then Tiffany, that'll get you to five. So I think that really, when we look at the Surrey's Wizard of Oz, you would think Ozzy would be up for it. You would think that Surrey, who just voted out Colby, that she might potentially be also interested in taking out coach, that if those people go with it, that it could have happened, why didn't it happen? I don't know.

Because you have two people, one of whom is saying, I'm not going to lie in this game. And the other person is saying we're all lying to each other all the time in this game. and I just think I'm more scared of D. You know, like, I want the person who at least is saying he's not going to lie. Whether or not you believe Coach is not lying in this game, like, he's at least saying he's not going to lie in this game. You know, he's sitting in the hammock chuckling at his haikus. Like, I want him in the game. I don't want, like, D, who is one of the most devious, dangerous players of the whole new era.

Like, I think if I am, if I'm like an abstract, like, decision maker, you know, it's all comes down to me. Get out D here and keep coach. Like, coach is always a force of stability. and order, you know, whereas D is not that. I think it's the same thing that happened last week with the Colby vote and coach, where Colby just had a lot more going on in the game. And I think that a lot of people were more afraid of Colby. So he called him the head of the snake.

Coach is a little bit of like, are you worried about coach? Like, he's really, is any of this, do you think, though, an act? And again, this is the question we have to always ask with coach. Has coach turned it up to a degree? where he's talking to himself, he's counting out haikus and laughing to himself. Do you think any part of this is, hey, the more I turn this on, the less threatening I become? I mean, it's definitely a good smokescreen, right? Because if you're so vocal about I don't lie and I never tell lies, then you can kind of lie with imputed.

You know, then you've got a lot of like a lot of leeway to lie. I mean, the problem comes if you get to the end with that sort of strategy and with that persona, can you convince people it was all an act? And like, that's the dream. That's what we're all waiting to see, right? The person who, you know, pulled the mask off at the final tribal and was like, you know, we all see, I mean, I've shared this with you before, but we all just say that about like Mama Kay and token cheese. So like, I, you know, for her like that the final tribal to like be this like posh British lady,

like, I fooled you are, you know, instead of. But, you know, it's really a tough act because so much of that final vote is based. on perception. But in terms of getting to that final vote, it's a really, and it helped him in South Pacific, right? It helped him a lot the last time he played. What do you think the path forward is for Tiffany, who's been so fun to watch her frustration, and she's really been giving these great confessionals, and maybe they were just waiting for this point to show us all of the Tiffany confessionals. But she's hot now, and they took out Camilla, and they took out D. Do we see some path for Tiffany?

to get some vengeance here. Yeah, I mean, there's always the risk that she has, you know, they're just like, let's get rid of the last person in that group. But, which is also sort of funny because they're like, if Rick and Christian are the people in the middle,

who are the people on the other side? Was it literally just D and Tiffany? Were those the, what was that in? Like, is the middle bigger than the other side? Yeah. But, you know, I think that in a new era season, and it's hard to say how much this is new era season, but being a solo operator is actually advantaged, right?

Like, nobody cares about the last person in the group. They've gotten rid of Camilla. They've gotten rid of D. Now, like, you know, now it's incumbent on Tiffany to say, hey, let's look at this giant group of seven over there or whatever. Like, let's worry about them. Like, I'm not, I can't do anything by myself here. I'm a little worried for Tiffany in that she's been too vocal in terms of talking about

she voted for coach now. she's called out Jonathan to some degree. Although that may have been more in the confessional and maybe Jonathan doesn't quite know how much Tiffany is coming for him. But I think that those are two people that are not necessarily going to forgive and forget. And while that there was a lot of goodwill towards Tiffany,

people did not want to write down her name, especially considering the fact that they knew she was going to stay. I do wonder how many people are willing to stick their neck out if coach or Jonathan is now beating the drum of like, all right, next vote. Tiffany, will anybody from the Christian, Rick, Emily group or Surrey's Wizard of Oz, will anybody from one of those other voting blocks stick their neck out to say, no, not Tiffany. I think one vote, you can get away with bullying through one vote, but I do think of the second vote, you know, you've got people who are grownups. You have a lot of, like, you have adults out there. I think you can sort of like force through one vote by just, you know, share loudness, but I think it would be very challenging.

for the coach Jonathan Alliance to get another vote through in the exact same way. So if not Tiffany, then who do you think is most at risk now at this next vote? I mean,

there's a lot of risk for Tiffany too, right? Like, I do think there's just like easy, again, like 13 people is still very chaotic. It's a lot of people. Why not just vote for Tiffany? That said, I think it's likely

that it kind of boomerangs back. Boomerang. Who? Yeah. I mean, you could easily see it being coach next week, right? Like that would be a very rational choice for them. Like, hey, this guy's too influential.

He's too loud. Like, I don't want to play by those rules. You know, the nicknames, they're not quite what they used to be. Let's get rid of him. Do I need to be the Stone Mason? You know, like, I don't know. I'm just happy to like go, you know, go my own way here. I do wonder how much did the word about this, you know,

presumed Zoom alliance that was more of a talking point in the exit press from last week. How much is that being talked about of if people are looking at, you know, Stephanie and Chrissy voted together? And then also you have Rizzo telling people about Joe and Coach and Jonathan.

Does that group need to be dealt with that the other side has numbers if they want to take somebody out? How much longer could you let that honor and loyalty five that I've talked about? Like, Ceree has to, you know, hit that

side, right? Right. At some point, she can't just let it keep going. She's not with them. Then they just run the game. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's, yeah. And maybe she was willing to get rid of D2 because that solidifies her bond with Rizzo. Like maybe that's actually advantageous for her. But, you know, is there any real reason for her to lose Tiffany? No. Yeah. Okay. So let's say you're, you know, you're somehow, you're in this group now. the, you're in there with Rick and, and, uh, Christian and Emily and the, I'd love to be there.

Steven, like, who's the most valuable target? Like, who's the glue person over on that side of things? If you really wanted to blow that up. I kind of think, I mean, I do believe that coach is probably, you know, it's like, even if you don't, I think coach, you know, coach is a very strategic player. He got, you know, he got to the final five in token chains. He was final, you know, got votes, which is more than I ever did in South Pacific, you know, he's a, he's a very good player. And I think also he's a very vocal player. He's like, you know, the nicknames, I think it matters.

You know, we talked a lot about this with Philip Shepard in South Pacific. Like, the very fact of Philip kept that alliance together, you know, like that sort of, and then when you got rid of Philip, that group kind of fractured that the three amigos did. And I do think that, like, getting rid of someone like coach here, simply by being like vocal and bringing in the nicknames. I actually think that even in this new era, I think that matter. So I don't think it's crazy to get out, coach. It does seem like maybe John, I mean, is Jonathan the glue?

Like, is Jonathan the glue guy? So I will say, I will posit that the person you want to get rid of is Chrissy. We know that Chrissy is a real strategic powerhouse. She tells us she loves talking the game. She loves the numbers. We saw her last week as a little bit of the Jonathan Whisperer. I think that she might be the person, you know, who pulls Stephanie in. Stephanie really had no connections in the game that we've seen with Jonathan or with Joe or

coach so far. So Stephanie, I think, could get a little bit more sucked into the vacuum of Surrey without Chrissy there also. So I think that she might be the person who might be the sports. smartest of that five to target. What's Stephanie's connection with Chrissy? Well, I mean that first off, they're the only two women in that group, but also they voted together at that last vote where they came together to take out Camilla.

Yeah, true, true, true. Well, that seemed to be more like Stephanie and Jonathan together. I just sort of felt like, you know, you had Stephanie with coach and Colby, or more with like Colby, yeah, and then Jonathan was in that group. Why? Well, it's Chrissy there. Chopped liver? No, she's there, too. I just didn't see an immediate connection between Chrissy and Stephanie.

Like, you know, in terms of like they were not, they hadn't been on a tribe together. I guess they did vote together in the last. They're cut from the same cloth. Yeah. We didn't even see that, though. We saw the cloth that's got Jonathan and Chrissy's in and out of the cloth. You could cut her from the alliance. It'll fall apart.

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the idol. That's like a Steve Martin bit, right? Like, I didn't pay taxes because I forgot. That doesn't work so great for the survivors. They don't like that. Try that with the IRS, but not with three. Yes. And yeah, it was comical.

It was being passed around. You hear that Aubrey said she forgot to play the idol. What's up with that? and so that she is basically peer pressure to play the idol. Stephen, my question to you is, but did she have to? Yeah, I think maybe not. I think she shouldn't have. Save it one more.

Be like, oops, I forgot again. Yeah, I mean, how many times are they going to browbeat Aubrey to, they had all the trouble in the world to do a split vote on D in this vote? Why? I mean, unless you get to. the point where you tell Aubrey, hey, you know, we're splitting the vote against you and D. So you have to play your idol tonight. I mean, that they kind of just peer pressured her into that she has to play her idol. And Aubrey is like, well, nobody will work with me if I have an idol. So I need to

flush it. I know you have talked about in second chances that when you have a known advantage, the best thing you can do to get rid of it, but I just feel like that there probably was some value in calling their bluff and taking that idol with you. We saw Risgod last season. You know, everybody knew he had the idol. It was a known idol, but they could never get the votes right to get him to flush it.

Yeah, and I do think that's obviously changed because all of the advantages, well, at least all the idols are known this season. And it seems people are fine with it. And again, I do think that could be just because of the Billy Ilish boomerang of it all, where there's no point in me voting out Aubrey here because then it just goes to, you know, Rick or Christian,

whoever you believe has it, you know, I mean, in some way, so it doesn't seem to be as much of a stigma. But ultimately, like, you need to be, you need to have social capital, right? And if this is hurting her social capital for whatever reason, they've decided that Aubrey's idol is more dangerous than Rizzo's idol. I don't think it's crazy for her to do it. Like, she's obviously playing a low-key game.

Yeah, but I like what you just said about, how about Aubrey, where's that offensive? and say, guys, I'm not playing my idol tonight. If you want to vote me out and give Rick Devons an idol, go for it. But I'm not playing it. I mean, she can't play it for anybody else. And with all due respect to Billy Eilish, again, friend of the pod, Billy Eilish, let me just say that I think that it kind of makes it possible to peer pressure Aubrey.

Because I think that it takes away some of Aubrey's power in that she gets a, hey, hey, Chrissy, this is our idol. I'll play it on you. So she can't even do that. Everybody's like this, oh, that idol's only for you. Okay, so then that does not benefit me in any way, shape, or form. So yeah, of course, get rid of it. And then now maybe production is going to be hiding a real idol out there.

And so now anybody could get it. And I could get my hands on a real idol or anybody could get their hands on the real idol. So I do think in a lot of ways where I was, again, this is being results oriented because I thought that the Billy Ilish idol was interesting. Again, sorry, Billy. But to me, I think it's a little stagnating things of it. Yeah. Yeah, it kind of is because like it's like instead of a driving action, it's sort of like, it's kind of like inhibiting it. I thought it was a mistake for, I mean, now that we know what happened, it was a mistake. Why did, so, you know, Rick says at the top of the episode, if we'd known Aubrey wasn't going to play the idol, we would have just, you know, and Aubrey was very convincing about it, I thought. We would, we would have just voted her out so that we, so that Christian could get the idol.

but why not just stack votes on Aubrey in that world? You know, they had all the votes. And then Aubrey, you know, even just say to Aubrey, hey, we're stacking votes on you. On this vote? They could be on the last vote. Mm-hmm. On the Genevieve vote.

Well, I think they wanted to build trust with Aubrey, and I think they wanted to... Yeah, I mean, probably more than it. You know, I think that there was probably some threatening nature. I mean, you heard how Christian talked about Genevieve, that he definitely thought that she was a major threat that needed to be dealt with. Yeah.

That's, yes, yeah, exactly. Yeah, okay. Let's talk about Stephanie. I have a question for you. Oh. Okay, go for it. No, that makes sense. No, no, no.

Let's talk about Stephanie. I'll ask this question after we talk about Stephanie. Stephanie goes on the journey. She ends up winning your beloved steal a vote. I know. It's not so great. Not so great, Stephanie. Yeah.

That looks hard. An hour with your hand about, I couldn't do it. I think I could last like 27 minutes. 27 minutes. It's very specific. Yeah. Yeah. It was interesting that we had.

We had for the first time on a journey, like an endurance challenge. We've never had that before. And, you know, it did work out perfectly that it was a shoulder challenge for Stephanie. We get to, of course, remember the opening moments of Heroes versus Villains. And so it ends up being a really good story moment for Stephanie, although a little undone by Surrey, just instantly reading her when she comes back. Do you think that each person would have had a challenge tailored to their greatest weakness? Yeah, I think they had them all set up the way it was going to, worked out.

Stephen, are you ready to hand out this week's Fisie Award? I want to talk about it. I got two options here for you. Let me play the intro, okay, if I may. Okay. Please. Let's award the fishy. Okay, thank you.

Eric Barger. Coach was absolutely the prime mover of the strategy this episode. But I can't give him a fishy. It really, I don't think, was a great look for him. It's a tough week. It built up more animosity. Yeah, not a great week for coach. I think it built up more hostility

among the masses than it that it solved with the eliminating D whom he felt he had some tension with. I think now he's probably got a lot more tension out there. So the two people I'm thinking of, and I want your perspective here, one is Jonathan. Because I thought, first of all,

I think Jonathan is being a very savvy game. And I think like, because he's like, Jonathan, you know, maybe we don't give him enough strategic credit. But I think he's like navigating the game very elegantly. And, you know, he learned a lot from Mr. Rob. And now he's a strategic power.

Yeah. And if you believe that kind of that conversation where Jonathan sets up D to explode is sort of what leads to D's ouster, like that was a great move that ended up in the result he wanted. This person who blindsided him is gone. This person who's mad at him, you know, for voting out Camilla is gone. Jonathan gets the result he wants. He has basically no blood on his hands. Like nobody's saying like Jonathan really forced that vote through. It's all on coach.

But maybe he like was the one who incited it. So I'm inclined to give it to Jonathan. Okay. The other option is Surrey, who I think just, you know, I know. I just like a great episode of like little Surrey moments, like sniffing. And tell me if there's a third option I'm missing, but like, you know, sniffing out the Stephanie Idol, you know, just like planting seeds and just like, you know, watching her flowers bloom. I'll agree.

It was a great Surrey episode, but that is not who I was going to pitch to you for the Fisher Award. I have somebody off the menu, off the Chinese food menu. for you. I'm going to say that I think the fishyy should go to the R-I-Z, G-O-D, the man, the myth, the legend, who's racked up more than a few fishies in these last 12 months. I think that you saw Rizzo come back, and I knew that the second that I saw Riz got on the beach with Coach last week, I'm like, oh, coach is going to flock to him instantly. Shades of Cochran and South Pacific, Come here, young man. He loves an acolyte.

He offers him a spot in this four horsemen alliance. Like sight unseen. Maybe they've had one conversation. You're the new Colby now. And really, what poetry, Stephen, for you. That really, to have Colby's adopted son take his spot in the four horsemen. I think that Colby must have told, hey, coach, if anything happens to me, give my spot in the alliance to my son for his God. He's going to find the joy.

And so he ends up taking him. taking this spot. He ends up having the moment where how a fun was this where he has to pull coach aside and tell, coach, you can't tell Rick Devons to, he's one of the middle people. Coach is like, oh my God, I'm so embarrassed. I can't believe I did this. Coach, you got to listen to me. I mean, that was so fun. Oh, we also have the line like, we slay dragons at tribal council not at camp. That was a great line. He's explaining Survivor to coach. He talked about how he's four months on the catch. He also has the moment, you know, he goes to Surrey. He's doing so well in that alliance where he ends up then that Emily told him about Dee and he really does, you know,

he brings that information to Surrey about Dee's information. Surrey is telling him. So I could see it for Surrey, but I just thought that Rizzo was the one that had so many great subtle moments that really has propelled himself forward where I think that we could talk about a world where he's certainly sitting in the final three. I don't think that he can beat Surrey. And let's see how, ultimately, if Riz God's survivor story ends up being going to the end of the game

and then being the person who goes from working to Surrey to crushing Surrey Fields' dream of winning Survivor, imagine having to be put in that position to ultimately, Voting her out of five or something? Yes, yes. Imagine that, you know, that he goes on this, okay, I'm going to be a legend to being the most hated survivor of all time. But that could be the trajectory that he's on,

and I'm fascinated to see how it works out. I thought he had the best episode out of any player. I see your point. That said, I still think this was an episode for Jonathan. Like, I think Jonathan, like, achieved more of his strategic goals in terms of getting out this person who betrayed him, not having the blood on his hands. you know, I see like Rizzo's always working this magic, but like, you know, coach inviting Rizzo

into an alliance. Like, you can't give Rizzo credit for that. Like, that's not like, you know, again, like, that's just like, I guess so. But like, I think a lot of it was to your point earlier that all these people are like projecting, oh, this is my pocket guy onto Rizzo in a way that like, he's kind of got this embarrassment of britches where everyone is coming to him is like, you're going to be my secret friend. They love him. And yeah, but I don't know if like that's like a great strategic move from Rizzo other than just like not having, you know, unless he affected the broadcast schedule of Survivor 49. So I'm going to say, I'm going to give it to Jonathan.

I'm sure I'm going to get black from that. Not the most beloved character on the internet, but I think this was his, I think the grand episode. I think he's, I think Jonathan is playing a really strong strategic game. I think he, yeah. He, you know, he got rid of Camilla. He made a choice and he had the follow through of getting rid of Camel's allies.

I've made a quick question for you before. Do you think there's any unique danger to who, who is the mayor of Ponderosa? Like, that's my question. Like, does it matter who's the first one there? Like, in terms of setting the tone? Like, does, like, putting D in that mayoral position, does that actually hurt Jonathan potentially down the line

if he makes it to the final three? I think that D is probably not the person that if you're Jonathan, you want there, running the Ponderosa, somebody who you really burned on the way out, and somebody who, I think, can have a little bit, of some fire to her, as we saw in this episode. So maybe not necessarily the best person.

He kind of made the wrong enemies in, I mean, I guess smart to get rid of Camilla, but you really, you heard Tiffany write in her burn book. I think she called him a skank also in this episode, really going full mean girls on Jonathan. So I think that D or Tiffany, maybe the worst two people to put out back to back to start off Ponderosa, if you're Jonathan. Yeah, I mean, because it really does affect things. It's like having this like, you know, build of like bad blood towards someone, you know, at Ponderosa.

So I don't know, this could backfire for Jonathan, but I do think it's like in terms of getting rid of the people in the game who are most, you know, angry at him. He had to make a tough choice as we discussed last week. He made a choice that in some ways I think was the right one, you know, get Camille out of there. Camille's not going to vote for him. Chrissy's cut from the same cloth. And I think, you know, and he's able to get rid of one more person from that group without. getting too much blood on his hands. Okay, plenty more to still come this week.

Sam, do you have the plugs for what's coming up this week on our HAP? Of course, Jeremy Collins is going to be on the podcast coming up. Oh, we announced Stephen. My book tour is coming up following suit, trying to be just like Stephen Fishback. I'm reheating the nachos. I'm going to be stopping in Washington, D.C., where I will be joined by Stephen Fishback. Then I'll be in New York City for our big, show for book launch week. Then I'll be stopping in Boston Mass on May 8th and then back home here

in Raleigh on May 12th. Not to mention I'll be out in Los Angeles finale week for a stop where I was just with Stephen Fishback at Barnes & Noble at the Grove. For more information on that and everything that we're doing there, go to robins website.com slash events. Then big week on the podcast. You are here on Wednesday of Survivor No It All's. Next up is going to be Jeremy Collins. Plus, I will be talking and catching up with a full-blown alliance. Stephen, Sage, and Joanne will be my guest on Sunday. And then Michelle Carrey will join me on Monday.

Oh, nice. Talking all things, Survivor 50 here on R-H-A-P. Plus, Stephen, I got the chance to talk to somebody who's on. On their way to Survivor 50, Mr. Beast. I went to Mr. Beast headquarters in person, got the chance to sit down. I call him Jimmy now. I mean... Oh, you got to go ahead to say Jimmy?

Got to go ahead. So check out my conversation with Mr. Beast. We talked about Beast games and a little bit of what to expect when Mr. Beast shows up on Survivor. Plus, what Mr. Beast got out of going out on location to Survivor 50. for both Beast games and for Survivor 50. And what he learned from watching Jeff Propp's, very interesting interview, I thought, with Mr. Beast. Plus, I'm talking to all of the hosts of the reality TV shows.

The host of Australian Survivor, friend of the pot, David Junae joined me and said, Rob, you got to catch up on Australian Survivor. It's such a good season. I said, you know what, David, I've got all the time in the world. You know what? Let me check, let me watch 22 episodes of Australian Survivor this week. So I caught up to just to talk with David.

Stephen, listen, when the Golden God tells you to check out the show, what are you going to do? Say no. That's got to be a three-time speed. You're like, blah-bring. Yeah, we made it might have yada-di-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a little bit of the pre-merge, but it was great to catch up with David. Really fun interview with him. Check that out. And then, of course, we all love Escape. Oh, yeah. By that, please.

Soon to be a best-seller in Canada. Also. And check out all of our friends over in chat, BCC. Go to Robbinsweb's website.com slash VIP chat for that. Stephen, great job here tonight as we kick off the merge officially of Survivor 50. Anything else on your mind? No, this was amazing. Amazing.

All right, thanks so much for joining us. Take care, everybody. Have a good one. Bye. Bye.