RHAP: We Know Survivor - Mary Kwiatkowski on Survivor B&B: S47 Ep 7

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

Mike and Liana are joined by Mary Kwiatkowski for Episode 7!

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My name is Mike Bloom and okay everybody, it's officially now the jury. Just when you thought it was safe to go into the merge, here comes Jeff Probst with a proverbial shark mouth that contains a bag of rocks to determine the course of misfortune for one contestant until it wasn't, and then it was the course of misfortune for another contestant. But it's only good fortunes today, we are talking of course on the eve of a

very important vote we're going to talk about an episode where half the contestants didn't vote and uh the players were split like a highly contested electorate and we got to see the return of a very interesting twist to carry out some very interesting results and especially a very interesting reaction to said vote of course i'd love to welcome in the co-owner of the bnb here who will never be separated from me via rock draw it's liana boris yes i'm i'm happy to be here i guess mike uh you know look i wasn't here last week and if i was i was gonna sing the praises of Survivor. Look, you guys talked about it. We got the merge, regardless of how you want to say it. And then we took it all away.

And only four people were eligible to go home. And that was really painful. But you know what? Regardless of the pain, there's got to be some pleasure. And I think that this group can find it. Yeah, I mean, isn't the lyrics to the infamous song, Last Christmas, you gave me a merge. And the very next

week you took it away yeah i'll be singing that this christmas well wham here comes our guest for the week it is frail mary mary kakowski uh fresh from her tour de force performance as bella swan in the twilight franchise in our halloween steal. Mary, have you broken character yet or are you just fully immersed in it still? I've got some ketchup right over here. No. For you, Mike. Listen, the Survivor Social Hour

infamously didn't have condiments, so they would have loved that ketchup. Yeah, and that's blasphemous. You know, you got to have some mustard or something to put on those hot dogs. I know, that was ridiculous. Well, Mary well give us your thoughts so far we're you know depending on what the episode count might be either halfway or

a little over halfway through the season so far again feels like the game is now gonna really start into a new phase with truly going individual with the jury starting next week what have your thoughts been through the first seven weeks here's the. We love it when a sentence starts with here's the thing. If it's not a hit Kelly Clarkson song, I don't want to hear it. I believe most of my last appearances here at the BNB have been with my partner in crime, my uh partner in crime asia welch so um you know i'm not here solo um let's just say first three weeks of the season went real strong for me i was really i was loving it everything was great um we're like really the first two weeks but um uh due to an abundance of circumstances with a busy life and then also uh just feeling sad after episode

three i watched episodes four five six and seven yesterday and today i was like when when liana asked for me to come on the b&b i was like great this gives me an opportunity to catch back up because i feel i feel out of it and i feel sad about that but also i just needed to take a little breather from season 47, but I'm back. And I, and I will say that I think the time away was good because I loved those last four episodes. It was great. I had a really great time. Um, I mean, you know, I, I, I went through my, my grief period and my mourning process, but you know, I think we're all back. And, um, and at this, like, there are some fun characters. I feel like it took me about three or four episodes

to really, really feel like I got to know everyone, partially because, you know, the edit was hiding, like, four people. But, like, I think it's been said over the last several episodes, like, Caroline, Genevieve, these people are popping now. They're coming out. They're playing. Sue's out here I'm loving it so and Sue and also Sue and also Sue do it for the 45 year olds yeah I mean it's I think

it's been a great season I'm I I don't really know because I'm so behind on some of the podcasts I don't know like what the the thoughts and ether are, like what everyone else is feeling. But for the first time in a while, taking a bit more of like a casual stance to it, I'm loving it. Talking about it with my parents. We're loving it. So, you know, it's a good time. Yeah, it is interesting because I think there was a lot of talk last week on this podcast and off about like, what do we look like in a post Rome society? You know, like this was a character that took up a lot of airtime, especially in his boot episode. And he also was an easy consensus target.

So what would the state of things look like afterwards? And what we got was something that kind of answered the question, but didn't. You know, it was looking at, okay, basically we forced Tuku to go to a pre-merge tribal council in the post-merge and the person that was probably going to get picked off there ends up getting picked off here uh and so it does again kind of delay the answer to that question we get a lot of interesting setup leona in the first 15 minutes of like oh my god is andy gonna finally turn on the gatas has he been pushed

bent so far that he's now going to break oh my god there's a women's alliance happening and then reaching into a bag of rocks kind of stymies all that for the rest of the episode yeah exactly and i actually think it's so interesting that we do end up with an original toku boot right where it even more so feels like it's not the merge like it even more so feels like we're just going back to the original tribe format because of the ultimate outcome. And also because, you know, we see some of the talk at the reward where,

oh, okay, well, if they get rid of Rachel, they probably will, then it's going to be, you know, us together, you know, yellow and red, we're making orange baby, making fire, right? Us against blue, let's do this. But then that doesn't ultimately end up happening so then even those seeds that were potentially put in place it's like i don't even think that that's gonna happen where i do think that we're gonna kind of go back to the

andy stuff that we got at the beginning of the episode with him trying to turn on the rest of gotta so it just felt i don't okay i never want to use the phrase a waste of time oh my god because i don't believe that anything is really a waste of time i think you can learn anything from every experience every experience gives you something uh but it just felt like we hit rewind like we just went back past the room the hourglass yeah we smashed the hourglass these episodes should have been aired in reverse order like we should went back past the room the hourglass yeah we smashed the hourglass these episodes should have been aired in reverse order like we should have had okay tuku goes to tribal council gets rid of someone else then yeah what if they just show it out of context they're like wait why is

rachel there yeah exactly like huh that's weird that's okay she leaves she just like goes back i also oh my god yeah anyway okay so that's my thought i'm done talking for now yeah i mean i'd be interested mary to see like in retrospect of the season, watching it in a binge might make this episode go down a little smoother to the honest point is because it seems like from the next time on, we're immediately going to get a follow-up to Andy trying to get revenge. And this was more so just a bit of a detour on the way to the ultimate destination.

Yeah, I can see that. This is what I'll say is like i know there's a lot like i'm i'm an old school survivor purist i am but in order to enjoy the show that we have i feel like the way i look at it is whenever someone gets screwed over in the game and and i you know i've played orgs i've played lrgs the lrg i played i got i was a mergatory boot like it it sucks it's not fun you know it no like are we talking like like outright mergatory like you did the whole half safe half not or were you just the merge boot

more or less half safe half not like all of my allies pretty much ended up being in the half state and they didn't vote and so i was was just, I thought it was this basically. Yeah, basically it was more or less this kind of scenario. And unfortunately what I'd say is kind of the way you have to wrap your mind around it is if you're at least given the opportunity to make some connections with people, like Rachel was put in a bad scenario and if Rachel had gone home, that would have been really unfair. Like, I think, you know, for her, from her perspective, I don't, I don't view like the Tiana boot to be particularly unfair or whatever. I feel like it's like, she was on the bottom of her group.

She didn't know it. She had those weeks to do it and to get in a better position. And this is what it was. I have to look at it. Like, and I think Jeff looks at it this way, which is 99% of the time. If you get voted out, you probably could have done something to, to save yourself. Now, the thing that you might've had to do might've been weeks in the making that you like, it was like a thing that you couldn't have just done on that one day. Like it might've been a much bigger

thing and there's so much luck involved. So, it stinks it is what it is i feel i feel really bad for tiana it's unfortunate but i i feel bad for everyone who gets voted out of survivor uh when they're not actively making horrible decisions i mean now you're kind of speaking like tiana right she's like i'm crying for myself and i'm crying for everybody who won't make the jury i mean it is interesting because i would sort of put tiana in the same category as like a jenny guzon by on the pyramid of being screwed over of those that don't remember jenny guzon by she was part of a tribe that did a twist where they voted somebody out and so theoretically she'd be safe for another round but then they were going to vote someone else out immediately

and so it was like okay because the last place option wasn't available she loses because she's second to last basically in the pecking order i sort of put that on the same level and you know people watched 44 so maybe they were planning for once they saw a version of this twist like okay someone from the other tribe is going to have some ability to sway the votes but it just seems like almost impossible to plan for when you're a survivor contestant, you have to plan for A through Z. You can't start adding letters of the Greek alphabet in there as well. Otherwise, you're going to drive yourself crazy over the lack of calories in your brain. The simpler way of looking at it is it's not planning for someone to get a magical advantage that will help you.

It's think about it like I need to plan to make really good, make a great impression on these people so that if someone got some sort of thing that I would be the one they'd want to use it on. And like that's what it's really what it boils down to is more of relationships. It boils down to the fact that Tiana couldn't see that Caroline and Sue had a relationship with Gabe that went beyond her. And she didn't she didn't do enough to break that up, you know? And I mean, and maybe, maybe she couldn't have, but that's the scenario. The scenario is she's out of the Alliance and it stinks. Um, there there's, you know, I don't think like a lot of times when there's advantages used, it's a calculus of like, okay, well instead if this person had gotten with this person and voted this way, but this one is a little simpler.

It's just, yeah, she was, she was the bottom person on the alliance and it stinks. And it's very true that if she, if this had not happened and they were back together with, you know, she made the merge, I don't think she would have been in this scenario. But it's like, it's like what Robin Steven said on the Know It Alls.

This was final destination. It was just going to happen probably, you know, it's the way it worked out. And now the tribes are evened up and here we go. And if fittingly a franchise that started with the plane crash for the flight attendant oh no i i yeah i i don't know i don't think obviously if rachel had gone home then i think the conversation looks very different right oh well it goes back to the whole matt blankenship conversation right of like how screwed over was this person right exactly and then we're talking about oh my gosh like the talking about preparing for delta uh you know lambda's plans

right like this is just this is just it's just impossible but instead you know now we're having a conversation of like well this is what would have happened if tuku had just gone to tribal like if just tuku had lost like this is what would have happened and Tuku had just gone to tribal. Like if just Tuku had lost, like this is what would have happened. And then there's sort of some other like interesting smatterings, but I actually don't think that the tribal council decision was ultimately that interesting to me because it was like, well, clearly they had talked about it and they were like prepared for this. So that's what they did.

That was the, that was the thing for me that maybe led to a lack of like big, you know, anticipation for the, except for the thought of oh i wonder what's the face crack gonna be once rachel reveals the advantage it's all gonna like come be outright with it or is he gonna give the performance of a lifetime turns out yes and yes uh but with the what uh but but i from my perspective at least as soon as like saul got the advantage and he said that one of them is safety without power it was like okay he's giving it to rachel rachel them is safety without power. It was like, okay, he's giving it to Rachel.

Rachel's using safety without power. Tiana is going to get voted out because we know that Sue Caroline and Gabe are a thing and that's three versus two at best. Now I was confused on one thing cause I didn't rewatch it was, um, could Saul choose which advantage to give or was it Rachel's choice? So it was Rachel's choice allegedly. Okay. So they probably just cut that part out then or, or yeah, there's, I think there's a secret scene where it shows her finding the advantage and she basically is able to take her pick and you know maybe if there were tighter numbers and it wasn't so open

and shut then she could use the block of vote but it was so easy for her to just be like yeah nope and this is also a very fun situation where she got to arrive at tribal council before everybody else like half the people couldn't vote at that tribal council. And you think that Jeff would also summarily dismiss them, but no, she's going to get back by herself. Despite the fact that she basically left a final five vote early. I was obsessed with that moment.

Like I thought for a second, maybe she'll go get to sit on the jury seats with everybody else. Cause technically that's camp like camp right now is jury seats but no she's just the one person that has to go back to camp and just like chill by herself before everybody else comes back and tells her exactly what happened it's so funny to me i would be doing a happy dance if i was her so yeah i mean that was great yes but are we getting to like sandy territory mary from your beloved token jeans and it like, why didn't you start this fire? Why didn't you get the camp going, Rachel?

You had the extra time. Sorry, I didn't know what a pace was. Yeah. Like, here's the other thing is, OK, pretend this doesn't happen. Pretend she doesn't she doesn't get this advantage. It doesn't go home. I think this is what is, you know, this is how Survivor works. A lot. Yeah.

If she had gone home, people would have said, oh, she was screwed by the swap, whatever. We've seen scenarios similar to this before, though. Don't ask me to quote one, but I'm sure there have been ones where, like, there is one person on the, okay, here's one, you know, Amber Mariano, right? Yeah. Also, we've seen scenarios where the person who is on the obvious outs

does make it work for whatever reason and, you know, does does get by. So it's possible it could happen. I think the original plan that came in, like, I think that even if they were going to all vote out, Rachel, I think that there was a non-zero chance that they wouldn't have, that they could have done one of the many alternative plans that were brought up about you know voting out one of the uh two coup members so i think it was possible yeah i mean yeah you say that but then caroline's like she's the best to ever do it you see the fact that you like her so much that's why we got to get rid of her like i love caroline low-key stepping in and just like it feels actually very big brother to me where it's like somebody gets like a wild idea, especially just watching so much BB 26. Like someone comes up with this wild cockamamie idea.

And then there's usually the person to come through with the bucket of cold water. And sometimes it doesn't work when you're dealing with people like Tucker and Angela, but Caroline very much is that person. Like Caroline's the Chelsea here being like, no, no, no, no, no. We're not doing this right now. Stay the course, vote out tiana or vote out rachel and then we're golden um here's a question i have about sol's advantage do you think someone else could just claim that they were the one to do it like just go go to rachel privately and do it like i don't mean

sure could they i think do you think someone like would that be a good game move well i think the only person that did would do it has been voted out in two fair enough okay i think the room would absolutely be like you're welcome me i did that i guess the question is does saul have the like the paper like does he have the evidence well i assume he gave her the paper like it was only one paper so if it was only that one paper but see no one knows that except for him but if somehow people knew then like that's almost why i would love in in survivor for people to be a little more aware of exactly what the like i want people to use production as a strategy i want people to to be able to claim that they did it to where rachel

has four people going up to her claiming that they saved her like yeah I mean I think there's a very non-zero chance that happens like because I I imagine Rachel's first instinct would be that it's one of either Andy Sam or Sierra uh and so because then she doesn't know the other Lavos from a hole in the wall so it would be interesting if like all three of them approach her saying it i think that i don't think they would i think that andy in like day three may have but not andy anymore who's like listen you're just gonna be fodder to the slaughterhouse coming up soon uh but sol might at this point uh or maybe sol might recruit somebody like a genevieve and a teeny and maybe the three of them all do a little bit of three card monty and are all going to her saying, yeah, I use the advantage on you. So it's like,

okay, well, I like Lavo. I don't know who used it on me. So I can't target one specific person if the info comes out, but I'm happy for Lavo. Do you think it's better for Saul to tell her or not? Yeah, I, so I was essentially debating all of the decisions that saul had to make right and what he should do so okay so one he finds it okay first decision who's he gonna give it to right so that's one decision second decision does he tell the other people that he went on the reward with okay that's a yes or no question then the other question is does he he tell Rachel that he's the one who saved her? Of all of those, the one I felt the most confident about was tell Rachel you saved her. That's like the one to me that felt like, unless you're going to save it for final tribal council,

what good does it do you? Because I don't think that necessarily saving Rachel was the best strategic decision for Saul in that situation. I don't think it was a bad decision. I also don't think it was the best decision, right? Because I think on one hand, you get rid of Rachel, you help to solidify this group of six, right? Okay, great. That's one option. The other option is you choose to save Rachel. Now she's potentially indebted to you. And then you keep the group of Gata together as four strong, but then you have Andy turning on them so maybe it creates more interesting dynamics and then tuku you know starts to fall apart like

to me there didn't seem to be a really clear outcome for him in terms of who he should give it to but i do think he should tell rachel i think if it was me i would have given it to rachel and i would have my inclination would have been to tell her. I think that thinking about it, I think the better move is give it to Rachel. Don't tell her. I think it's, it's a good move to go up to her after the fact and say, Oh my gosh, I'm so glad you're safe. That was awesome. Let's work together. I think that's good. I think that the disadvantage is if you're not going to tell everyone you went on the reward with, I think it's risky to tell Rachel because I think Rachel could tell them.

Now, maybe you wait it out. Maybe you wait for a little while, see if you become close with her, build a bond, go through some boats and then tell her. You don't necessarily need to save it until final tribal. But I think that if you're going to keep it a secret from anyone, you should keep it a secret from everyone because it benefits him to have, as long as Rachel is someone he wants to work with and that he plans on building a relationship with, it benefits him to have as long as Rachel is someone he wants to work with and that he plans on building a relationship with it benefits him to have Rachel here um I think the obvious thing to do is to tell her which is like probably what my first instinct would have been but I wouldn't have been thinking about the disadvantages to that it's kind of like the more things you do in Survivor there are pros and cons you think oh pro I'm gonna get her on my side con what if she thinks that now i'm a threat because i right she owes me right whereas not

telling her doesn't give you a pro but it doesn't give you a con either yeah and if you do make it to the end you could at least add be a final travel thing to just say hey i did this thing that everyone witnessed right and so you know you could do that i think that's the thing is if he's willing okay so if so in my head you're telling rachel because you want to create a strong relationship with her if he's keeping rachel to continue to throw rachel to the wolves then that obviously don't tell oh no yeah then you're just toying with her right if you're like yeah i saved you once i'm not gonna save you again i don't think that would that's like i guess maybe apparently making the jury is a huge deal to you again. I don't think that would... I guess maybe apparently making the jury

is a huge deal to Survivor players, but I don't think Rachel would be like, thanks for helping me make the jury, Saul. I really appreciate that one. And then voting me out the next week. Thanks. You know what I mean? So yeah, it's only a situation where you really care about fostering that relationship.

But if it's to continue to let Andy throw Godda under the bus, then like, no, don't bother. And it's tough because i would imagine that saul has to have some sort of relationship with rachel deployment i know they've only been merged for a couple days but like i i think he has to have some sort of idea in his head of like they're having something going which is why he wants to do this because to your point mary the huge downside about this is great new person to build a bond with but if i tell her i don't know who

she's gonna tell like there's a fair chance she's gonna tell at least a couple of other people and then that's gonna spread to a bunch of other people and then before you know it hey guess what mr saul found an advantage with that behind everybody's back and like led to this big move at tribal council let's get rid of him but i will say this discussion here goes to show why in my opinion this was by far the best part of the episode like it is very interesting to me that survivor has not done more anonymous advantages it's basically this and the legacy advantage uh where it's like oh i don't know who gave this thing to me but i have it now i know like australian survivor for instance did an instance of it where somebody could play an idol on somebody like at the voting booth anonymously

um and i just think it's such an interesting idea because there is the duality now of not only am i playing this idol for someone but also okay who's gonna own the move when i get back to camp but it's also funny because survivor has been trending away from that. We see it with the amulets. We see it with the journeys where everybody's like, okay, you have something. So, okay, sure. It's not in the sense that you're saying

where you're like playing it anonymously. They're like trending towards everyone knows everything. So I think that's also why it was really refreshing to see Saul not tell anybody because you got to see his acting at tribal council, but also we've seen so many negative consequences of telling people about advantages. And he just was like, I'm shutting up now. We'll see ultimately if he does end up telling people later, but at least based on his initial behavior, it seems like he

wants to try to keep it under the rug also i'm sure that it was mentioned last week but like jeff you know the amulets have consequences why were we acting oh i thought the amulets were great no just say yeah that's the point of the amulets the point is that they have some consequences now at the point where all of the players collectively decide to break the consequences, yeah, maybe you need to rethink your horrible trash advantage, but like... I mean, do we think this was a direct rebuke of Rome sitting down and calling out how the amulets were a disadvantage? Like, all right, I'm going to show you all. I'm going to throw a bunch of twists your way.

And so one of them has to be good, right, Sol? I'm going to throw a bunch of twists your way. And so one of them has to be good, right, Sol? I mean, I think the best thing about an advantage in Survivor is being able to have power over the game to do what you want with it without getting any heat for it. And so, yeah, an anonymous advantage. Why half the people who find idols, like they say, the reason that people say, oh, I'm going to keep this a secret

is because it is a good idea to keep it a secret. No one ever does it, but like, it's a great idea. Okay. I think on principle, I can understand where they're coming from that if you're going to get a benefit in the game, it has to come at some kind of cost, right? So if you're going to get the ability, I know exactly. We love dangerous, but that's why it says beware. Right. So if you're going to be aware, all right, that's fine. But it's almost the level of the risk that is now starting to outweigh the reward. And I think that's why we're seeing this pendulum shift in the way that players are treating advantages where the risk is so high that people aren't willing to do it right we see it with the boxes where two of the three decided nope that's enough one and we're out

even if they chose to take it i mean yeah all three decided to nope out before they reached the final stage yeah exactly and it's the same thing with the amulets okay let's just get rid of them let's just burn them because why the risk does not outweigh the reward yeah i would agree with that and so again it's interesting that they present this i don't know if they were thinking this necessarily when they put it in from what jeff talked about with on fire this really was sort of like a two-piece plan where they had decided to do this split again which i'm not entirely sure why when you're looking back on new era seasons they decided like survivor 44 was the the bees knees of places to go back to between

like the journey where you can't sacrifice your vote your vote's basically gone get your vote back versus again the matt blankenship memorial okay half of you aren't going to vote but one of you is going to win a reward that's basically going to go help the other side which I mean I suffice to say I was not very happy to see this back no matter who went I felt it was like we just talked about it it felt just rather reasonless to bring this but I think it's semantics like i like the the split uh one tribe wins and and the other tribe votes i like that i just think you need to stop saying that they made the merge first just like don't say that just say hey you're on the up yeah it's just a we're doing it at the end of the at the end of the three tribe format we go to a true two tribe format for one vote for two votes or whatever and then we go to this like that's the problem the problem is the fact that you've claimed that they've made the merge but

then the point of the merge is that everyone then gets to vote like together and that you have all these new people to deal with so i think i think that's the problem it's just like if you if they didn't structure it this way if they just moved it back one vote it wouldn't be that big of a deal but that's the thing mary is that I don't know if the show necessarily wants to look at the merge anymore the first couple rounds as everybody voting together. I mean, I did some research here and there are a few seasons,

if you look at every New Era season, there are a couple that do like the first two post-merge rounds are both twisty, whether it be like mergatory and then immediately splitting. Some have one in one. This was the first one to like, obviously not like mergatory and then immediately splitting some have one in one this was the first one to like obviously not have mergatory proper but then have a twist involved

and i do wonder from a production perspective if it's as simple as looking at the rome vote for instance and being like we don't want big you know near unanimous votes at the start we don't want the prevailing gameplay to be like everyone jump on a target instead we want to scatter all these factions to the nines and so let's throw a little bit more randomness to begin with shake it up so that nobody settles into a pattern to begin with i don't think that's optimal to do considering that we've had 40 seasons where it's gone okay but after watching it now for seven seasons i'm pretty sure that's their prerogative at this point. But also like and I know it's a one off thing, but like this isn't just a new school thing. I mean, this happened in Survivor Fiji. Like it's not it. Yeah, it wasn't great there.

Everyone didn't like it at that time either. But like it's it's more than they just reached back into the well. And I think I think you're right, Mike. I think it's like's a status of, they don't want it to be this, you know, cohesive thing at the merge. I would say the flaw in that is if you're not going to do tribe swaps earlier on, then people just don't have the time to build the relationships that I was talking about are important to make this not feel

like someone's getting screwed over. Yeah. Except that's not really what happened this time. But like, yeah, it would have been if rachel wasn't safe i think i think maybe this episode and combined with last week's episode as well it feels a little bit like that scene in parks and recreation where there's the influencer that's talking about beef milk and it's like almond milk that's been squeezed through the holes in cow and living cows or something like that it's all about rebranding yeah it's all about rebranding that we're just getting the same thing and then this was just a tribe swap and

rachel got swap screwed but then there was a twist so she got safe like that's just what it was we just we just had a little itty bitty tribe swap just for like a day just for like funsies and now we're gonna go back to i assume regular merge uh but yeah it is i agree with you mary that it does feel a little bit like semantics of just how you're defining what's going on and what we call it and uh i'll ask my train of thought because i was thinking about the whole beef milk thing that you're just talking about if jeff offered that as a luxury on the reward would people be like vociferously disgusted or would they eventually put two and two together i don't know man oh i remember what i was gonna say

do you think that this would change at all would make you feel better if um everyone who is on the viewing group who's just watching if they have complete um free reign to play advantages on the people who are there like i think they only have free reign to play advantages on the people who are there like i thought you meant like that free reign to just walk around tribal council if they wanted to i would also say i mean this is this would also be like i don't think this is what they want because it's basically mergatory but i think like also they could you could change it so that they have the ability to also talk and be in the tribal conversation and that blanket ship could have gotten his bag if that had been allowed

yeah I mean it's interesting looking at it from this perspective because there's pretty much nothing else besides Saul's advantage like Sue has an idol and I don't know maybe if she feels like she or someone else is in danger when Rachel gets uh noped out of the the tribe that she would play but otherwise like yeah if Sam had an idol right now would have been really nice to play on rachel but he wouldn't have anything it is interesting like i don't i don't think i'd be too mad at it like the toothpaste has kind of already been out of the tube of both times we've done this one person on the other side has been able to have an influence over what's going on in the tribal council so for me it's like yeah sure yeah give give someone your extra vote to use at tribal council play an idol on them uh hell everyone pull your shots in the

dark and give it to one person so they can just start playing them one right after the other one of them's got a hit is that allowed can you play someone else's oh because you had it's like your vote is i'm pretty i'm pretty sure the rule is that you can't play someone else's shot in the dark you can't bro that'd be so cool imagine going up to jeff essentially with your lottery tickets of like i'd like to play the scratch this one can we scratch this one can we scratch this one like maybe you'll win the lottery because you got everybody shot in the darks that would be fun yeah i mean if you have six shots in the dark i guess the question is like would you put. Yeah, I mean, if you have six shots in the dark, I guess the question is like, would you put one in, draw a scroll,

and then they have to reset? Or is it like, listen, if I play six shots in the dark, I'm a winner every time. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like, but you can't play someone else's shot in the dark. I'm pretty sure not. Like there was the whole thing, obviously,

of Andy offering his up as collateral, Emily's as well. But that seems more spiritual than anything. It was more so to represent like I am giving away my get out of jail free card, possibly, I guess, like one sixth of a chance of getting out of jail free, which does sound like a statement on the American penal system. But basically this idea of like, well, listen, I'm not going to play it because it's out of my hands. More so like, OK, I'm giving you an advantage to play. Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, I got to start with how she went out here because, oh man, how ball ball. And it's interesting because like she was obviously not crying for her own funeral. She's told me and other people that she was still surprised by the outcome. She thought it would still be a pretty big vote on to Gabe. But she's still crying her way through. There's that image of the other four whispering to themselves while she's just sitting there with her head in her hands. And so it seemed like we knew what was coming,

obviously, much earlier than she did. And the look that she gave on the way out i don't know like was it anger was it sadness was it obviously a mixture of everything because this has been a season for people walking out of tribal council after their boot with uh quite a reaction to them which i think is great by the way i i think that while it's it's nice to while it's while it is just a game and it's nice to um eventually move past the things that happened in the game in the moment i want people to not just show their real emotion but i think that we should encourage the turning back to the group

and being like calling someone out or putting a target on someone or just being upset or whatever. Because, yeah, there's real feelings involved and you should be able to do that. It's like what I hate when anyone gets voted off of a show, particularly Big Brother, they do it all the time.

And then they come out and they're just like, oh, no, no, I knew it was going to happen. I knew it was going to happen. It's like, don't. Just admit that you were blindsided and be honest with this and so yeah I just want people I don't want them to just turn and and say oh great game good job everyone oh you got me no well I think especially for Tiana as well a lot of that intense emotion I'm sure comes from the rug being pulled out from under her when

it came to rachel just absconding back to camp that's right she mentally prepared herself like i'm gonna make the jury and not so fast here comes something and also in the blink of an eye you're gone as well you walked into tribal council thinking you were safe and now you're not which again is the textbook definition of a blind side but this one involved a couple of extra steps to it. Well, and she says, I mean, as soon as it happens, you almost, I, I completely empathize where you're just overwhelmed with what's happening because you go into tribal council. Of course, you're going to be nervous. And then essentially the plan is no plan. There's no plan. And you see her just sort of babble for a bit and then say, okay, I'm getting up.

And I totally understand doing that in that moment. So I think that she was not only blindsided, but also blindsided by Rachel leaving. So it was almost like a double blindside. So you're not only processing the emotions of your own ouster, you're also processing the emotions of, well, how the hell did we even get here in the first place? It's a double blindside where both the sides are cut off and basically like it's driving in a

snowstorm where you're like, all right, I hope I don't crash into anything. But good luck, I suppose. I mean, even Caroline, I don't know if she was playing it up, but even she had to like swim through word soup to try to answer one of Jeff's questions being like, oh, there's a lot on my mind right now. I mean, she was clearly very emotional when Tiana left. So I think maybe it was her kind of like mentally preparing for what was able to happen. But I totally agree with Mary. People, let your emotions out.

Just let it go. Let them fly. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if we need to get as meta as like making this a drag race exit line where now like everyone has to come up with something but if there's something in the moment let it flower and I don't know about I don't know about everyone else but at least for myself as someone who has wanted to go on survivor for years and years and years I did I have always thought in my head about like well what's my what's my vote outline yeah what am I what am I gonna say

do you have you given that? What have you landed on? Oh, I don't want to give it away. I still get an opportunity to use it, but I have thought about it and I have, I have thought, and I will say, it probably would end up being different in the moment because my instinct, which is probably what a lot of people have is to be like, don't let them show how much this hurt you. Make it funny, make it, you know, make it cheerful, make it lighthearted. But that's why when i'm gonna do a robert de niro impression i've cracked

the code oh no oh no no i could never oh um no but but you know that you don't want to be cringy that's just that's just rough i do i do love the idea of tiana though, like leaving camp being like, Miss Tiana. Yes. Like doing the best Vanjie impression. Miss Tiana. Miss Tiana. Just like sobbing. Yo, that's what she did. She did the Pangina heels elimination

where she's just like walking out crying and they just keep the crying in as the sound. These are some good comparisons. Like I think Annika was like the Jimbo basically screaming like, Whoa! Oh no! Okay, yeah. Well, that'll be off-season podcast we'll do all the kill all the comparisons to to drag queen walk off lines but um basically all survivor 44's ginger binges they got me girls

yeah my gals yeah right i mean it would be very interesting if that's how listen cbs viacom merger is happening. It's only inevitable that we're going to start crossing the streams here. I mean, it would be very interesting if we do get a drag queen, even from an amateur perspective, a local perspective on the show, because I feel like they'd just be conditioned to give an exit line and a soundbite on the way out. I know, right? Imagine like Selena's titties on there. She knows what to do. Come on, girl, give us the line. Oh, boy. Well, that being said, how far did we think Tiana was going to walk down

the metaphoric runway? I guess from both a, you know, drag race perspective, as well as a airplane perspective. Liana, did you have sky high prospects for our Hawaiian? Yeah. Oh, no.

Yeah. Yeah. It's bad. It's bad. It's real, real bad. Look, I listened to her interview and I was like, this is my new best friend. Like I just really, really enjoyed her interview. Uh, so yeah, I had her as my winner. She's my winner pick. I also tiana liana i felt like come on let's get you did you did pick liana from 41 so this was the next best thing yes exactly in the same way i picked gabler gabe was the next best thing like you know there's a lot of synergy here it's my previous picks so anyway let's just rip the band-aid off and get this over with i said that tiana soared through the game,

taking her relationships to new heights. It's a lot of really bad puns. She formed a particularly tight bond with Gabe, whose flashy antics and emulation of Russell Hance rubbed people the wrong way. Making this connection allowed Tiana to fly further, taking credit for Gabe's moves in the final tribal council while not catching any of

the flack. Her preseason conditioning of grip strength and core strength paid off as she secured three individual immunities. Her ally was Gabe. Her enemy was teeny. And then I wrote a few, I think these are, I don't know if I was meant to include these, but I'm going to read them anyway. if I was meant to include these, but I'm going to read them anyway. I wrote, she made this game un-fly get a ball. And then I said, Tiana lifted everyone's spirits.

That one's fine. And then the last one is garbage. I'm nacho average flight attendant. What does that have to do with it? I don't know, Mary. I don't know. Well, Liana, you have a great altitude about all this did she did she fly on spirit airlines i don't know i don't know mary i lifted i think was maybe

supposed to be the joke there i i don't i don't know this is like i'm not sure about the nachos that are going on here yeah you assume there'll be some sort of like mountain of gross nachos reward. And she'd say, I'm nacho typical flight attendant. I'm nacho average flight attendant. Yeah. That one's not really a flight pun. That's just bad. That's nothing.

It's just a pun on nacho. I'm really hopeful that you go through all the rest of these and like, Gabe, I'm nacho that you go through all the rest of these and like Gabe I'm not show average talk show host well now I'm gonna have to just continue to include like using six shots in the dark right like one of them's gonna hit one of them will make sense did you do this for everyone have you done this for the past several people no just Tiana apparently it was the I mean she made this game on fly get a ball like she did. That was good. That was my easily. But maybe that's like, I'm just trying to remember.

OK, what was I thinking in that moment? I probably wrote all these. I was thinking, OK, figure out a way to include them. And then I never went back to do that. So then they just stayed there. Yeah, I'm getting a ball. Well, that was really an on fly gettable set of predictions. Well, unfortunately, I am a nacho winnipick tiana

i had her aiming a bit lower i did have her making the jury okay early i kind of had her making that like kelly tevin like 10th 11th place slot so i said tiana uh the perceptions of tiana as a go-to person that her competition wanted to work with carries over upon her feet hitting the sand. She's caught in the middle of her first vote at Tuku, being the final nail in Gabe's coffin. Oh! Working tightly with TK, Tiana's laid-back aloha spirit combined with Tuku's winning streak,

making her one of the most purple players of the pre-merge. When she wins the first couple of individual challenges at the merge the online populace will remark that she is the latest purple queen calling her quote chelsea goes hawaiian like chelsea from ghost island chelsea goes hawaiian chelsea goes silent you know like with the brady punch goes hawaiian i guess that's bad i love it unfortunately once the jury hits okay miss unfly gettable okay don't throw those stones your glass houses and smithereens beneath you fortunately once the jury hits without her closest ally tk by her side she's deemed too big of a threat when left vulnerable so she's taken out by a surprising consensus her closest ally was tk her enemy

was the editors ah yes interesting yeah um well that's a close one mary a real close decision you're gonna have to think about a long long and hard yeah unfortunately while i do feel like uh some of the positive attributes that leona put out there uh were were accurate whereas like i don't think she had any issues with the edit or anything mike um i just can't give it to the winner so i'm gonna have to go mike here on this one listen drop the two keep the one she was 12th place that's basically a winner i mean yeah boom she won the pre-jury she was oh well she was the last person of the pre-jury which is essentially the winner of the pre-jury so i think that's just that's like essentially the same thing that sounds like something someone

would say when i interview them afterwards like well i'm actually the winner of the pre-jury so i'm surprised rome did not say that because he knew there was one coming after him it's like ah second place of the pre-jury brutal i do want to ask uh because all right this will be a little bit of speculation so if you want to skip ahead a little bit people but tiana had a lot to say in my interview with her. And there's a lot to do about Sue. Much ado. She had a lot to say about stuff with Sue that we did not see make the edit, particularly that apparently Sue early on was like having emotional breakdowns every day. And Tiana was going to comfort her

she had said that apparently to target tk you see on the episode sue's like yeah i'm gonna say anything to get tiana to flip apparently that meant that sue had said some like a quote below the belt things that attacks tk's character and so it made tiana uh say oh yeah i'm a girl's girl i'm more likely to support her than someone like TK if these like allegations are true you know for a while given the George Costanza of it all I thought that Andy might be set up to be our zero vote finalist I think that might be Sue Gabe Sue, Caroline wins. Gabe loses because of that comment he made.

And Sue, apparently a hot mess loses. Boom. Put it, put it, put it. That's unflaggable. I'm telling you. That's my prediction. That's interesting. Hmm.

I mean, I think on the surface, I think Sue being a zero vote finalist makes sense, but I don't, I don't actually see her getting to the finale ah oh that could be interesting as well i mean we'll see like if she does pull a carolyn and like play this idol when only now one other person in the game knows about it like it could be something that makes a big impression and causes her to immediately get targeted like we saw with car. Or it could be like a Xander situation where she never ends up needing to use the idol because nobody is targeting her

because everyone feels like she's a goat. I just thought it was like an interesting thing to pick out. Yeah. Especially in the wake of all the red paint shenanigans that happened in the last episode. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting because that's kind of two different things.

Like knowing that does change my mind a little. I was actually thinking that she could end up more in the trying to remember. Is it Julie kind of? Yeah, like the Julie Maria type of. Oh, my God, you're such a big threat at the final five. Yeah, yeah. Sort of that zone of maybe not necessarily you're such a big threat, but like, oh, people like you, you know, or the even one step further, the sort of we don't want you to be the zero vote finalist kind of like we want you don't want you to take that spot thing but I I don't know I I don't really see her maybe it's because we have

so many other kooky characters I don't see her being the like obvious obvious oh this is the goat to take to the end kind of thing. The typical zero vote finalist spot that you get from the older woman a lot. I actually think that, you know, that role is being fought for by like 18 different people. So. Well, I mean, I think for next week, if if the trend continues is sort of in the post merge, the big targets seem to go, at least in terms of the new era. Then I think the pecking order is probably like Sam Sierra, definitely on the chopping block.

I would say Kyle, if he doesn't win individual immunity, is on the chopping block. Oh yeah, I think Sue is like taking a bite out of him, much like that bat won when it was still alive, the minute he does not win. They also like, I wouldn't say he won it by accident, but like, bat one when it was still alive, the minute he does not win. They also like, I wouldn't say he won it by accident, but like, I think it was clearly intending to win immunity for his whole group.

And just because the rest of his group lost, he ends up kind of like unintentionally winning immunity for himself. Yeah. And I think, I think Gabe is still has the opportunity to circle back to, to being a target as well. And that's also something interesting as well. Going back to your point, Mary of like, what are some things that tiana could have done i think

there's a there's a chance that if somebody but kyle wins immunity that he goes instead of tiana maybe it's because like gabe is fiercely against tiana because she kept throwing his name out but even though kyle had won one individual immunity at that point it's clear that sue was not very happy with him uh and there probably was this idea of like oh he'll flip on tuku immediately because he was left out of the tk vote which to your point leon i think puts him probably in uh the you know eyes of the rest of the tribe as an easy target going for whether or not he'll be the final target remains to be seen but kyle i think unfortunately built a bit of like an untenable house for himself at this point that he's just trying to like lay a foundation for as soon as possible but you never

know maybe once enough individual immunities and it kind of like goes away because people are just like i don't know kyle's still here i guess oh yeah kyle whatever like there's just no individual immunity this season it's just the immunity kyle yeah it's a kyle that well i mean also by the way i'm really upset that jeff has not used this yet but the immunity is back up for grabs it's a bat immunity is bad up for grabs i need to hear it okay uh who do you think is the most safe at this point because i'm looking at some of these lavo people being like they look like they're chilling yeah well i think it's like not collectively as a group it's not like a tika three thing it's just like you seem kind of cool

so i think the lavo people i think at least genevieve and teeny are good like i think getting rome off of their collective backs helped a lot because he was drawing a lot of attention to them as a foursome now they've kind of shown like yeah we're not as tight with each other you heard about all the chaos that happened and so now you have these more unified blocks coming into the merge now starting to kind of like act upon these deep-seated grudges the three people who are left really don't have that many grudges against each other what genevieve told rome that she didn't want to work with saul moving forward like that's pretty much it uh and so i do think that they're probably the three safest i think from what we've been led to believe andy is also

in a good category just because yeah there's a chance he might get caught with his hand in the cookie jar and people are like oh wait a minute andy's trying to get rid of his tribe let's get rid of him but it feels like the perception of andy is so much that like he is this kind of you know uh this kind of like pet almost not to like demean too much but like this guy that like everyone says oh yeah well he had the meltdown on day one so like we don't really expect him to do any huge major things and it comes at their peril as he talks about it's nursing a baby snake yeah you can have a connection all you want with it rupert but chances are that thing's still gonna bite you at the end of the day andy's growth arc i think is gonna be really interesting once we see the eventual conclusion however it ends i think

it's already been super interesting to see i mean especially with the Annika tribal to then now go into all of this foreshadowing for him turning on the rest of Godda. Very cool. I love that as a storyline. I love Darth Andy so much. Maybe it's just because I saw that him and his girlfriend dressed up as Padme and Anakin for Halloween. But like, it really does seem like,

like here's this kind of like hapless kid on Tatooine and then these people step in to train him and then he's able to succumb to the dark side and overcome them and defy his master now listen hopefully it ends better for him than anakin skywalker at the end of the day but i think it's it's a very fun turn as you're talking about liana oh my gosh he not he killed not just the men but the women and the children. He's super into pod racing. I'm actually,

I would love to see a Photoshop picture. Andy Kin. Andy Kin, yes. Oh, Annie. Little Annie. Okay. Who's the Jar Jar Binks of this season? That's a good question.

That is a good question. You know, it depends. It depends what your thoughts on jar jar binks polarizing character polarizing character gotta have some catchphrases right who's i have a guess oh no who's who's tall is it john john binks anybody not john john i mean jar jar loved anakin skywalker john love it of course we know close to tell i'm andy yeah right well and politics i believe jar jar binks later on does get involved in politics i'm the senator yeah because the senator right yeah oh the lore the lore goes so deep oh my goodness well speaking of deep lore we're gonna play a game what's the name of the is it becca becca yeah becca is the name of the tribe okay great so we're gonna play a game called in the background of becca

which is essentially inspired by a scene during the reward where I don't know if either of you notice, but Saul is eating potato salad and he eats out of the communal big ass spoon that is too big for his mouth. And he's sort of like trying to jam it in the corner of his mouth. Not as a, don't cut that out. And I just, and, uh, so yeah. So I'm just trying to get all that white stuff in his mouth, Liana. What's the problem? No, I know, but I can relate. So, yeah, so he, um, uh, that was very funny to me.

So what I did is I went through the episode with a fine tooth comb and I tried to pick out all of the little details that I thought were funny or just amused me in some way. Might not be funny to you, but they amused me. I realize in retrospect, a great name for a fantasy tribe name in a survivor draft would be Fine Tooth Rome. Fine Tooth Rome. Yeah. The deep breath is just you contemplating, how do I couch this in the nicest way possible?

Yeah, exactly. That's a great idea, Mike. There are no bad ideas. It's not your average draft name. Right. See, that's better. All right, Mike, we're going to go ahead and start with you. So the way this is going to work is I'm going to read the question and then I will give you four answers. You have to guess which one you think is correct we're gonna cover a myriad of things in this episode but first we're gonna start with mike this is to you what does rachel say when jeff announces the split groups for immunity is it a keeping us on our toes. B. Another freaking twist. C.

Always twisting, Jeff. Or D. Twists on twists on twists. Gotta love it. D sounds like something Jeff GPT wrote. It was like, if a contestant could say this after I reveal a twist that would be great listen everybody stop saying my twists suck you should be saying twists on twists on twists Jeff I just can't get enough all right so it's tough because A and B are more typical but

like I'm trying to meta this now of did you is it actually C and you picked it because it stuck out to you right like C is by far the weirdest choice which is like what just keep twisting Jeff always twisting Jeff oh what do you know like Mary had described earlier I am not going to go with the riskier pro con choice to start this out at least I'll go with a safer option here so we've got a and b can you read those options out again keeping us on our toes another freaking twist that was a and b respectively i'm gonna go with a i don't know about the potty mouth on rachel here especially in front of jeffrey probes freaking Frickin. Is that a freaking?

All right. Well, I can tell you, Mike, you're keeping us on our toes. But it was C. Oh, I knew it. I knew it. That stood out to me when I was watching the episode. I like, oh, I like that. Jeff always be twisted.

Always twisted. Twist does twist. All right, Mary, let's see if your luck can help here. Question number two. What does Sierra say at the reward feast causing Saul to clap for their accomplishments? Is it A, nothing left? B, no more corn? C, not a potato in sight or d bones see i really hope it's not a potato in sight i don't i don't think it is but i do love that

not maybe sierra's just quoting her favorite like irish settler circa 1473 she's a big fan of the famine you know what i mean well listen survivors like a 26 day famine if you think about it and you were just talking about soul shoveling potato salad um i i'm gonna go with with no more corn or whatever the corn one was yeah no more corn ah but no more right answers mary i'm sorry it was bones and she says it twice actually what what sierra what's with your bone love of bones well i think it was because the baby back ribs they cleared all the meat from the baby back ribs leaving only bones so that's not like this was just like a clean plate club like yeah look at us yeah bones but like or maybe she's just shouting out her favorite fox procedural and she's trying to get

like oh emily de chanel i know you're watching of course leona your favorite david borianis we love we stay oh it's bones next week she's gonna be like matlock i can't wait all right mike we're going back to you we're all tied up zero zero at the immunity challenge after the groups are split each castaway is given a band to signify their group yellow or blue where is sue wearing her blue band oh no is it a tied as a hairband b tied as a headband c tied around her upper arm or d tied around her wrist oh okay i would imagine she wouldn't put it around her arm because the entire competition is to hold it above your head but then why would she put it as a hair actually you know what i'm gonna say she put it as a hair? Actually, you know what? I'm going to say she put it as a hairband.

I think that's next level thinking on Sue's part. Okay, wow. Next level thinking from Sue and next level thinking from Mike. Yes, that was correct. So all of these options, someone had done. So Andy had it as a headband. A couple people, including Kyle,

had it as their upper arm tied here. And then a couple people, I believe Sam, had it tied around headband. A couple people, including Kyle, had it as their upper arm tied here. And then a couple people, I believe Sam had it tied around their wrist. So these were all options that others had chosen. But Mike, you nailed it for Sue. I mean, I think it's a good idea. It's natural cushioning, right? That's why Spencer, I remember in Cagayan ended up winning that challenge where you or try to win the challenge where you hold the block on your head because he had the hair. So no, it was actually tied in the back it was like hair in the back it wasn't like this which is actually what i expected more people to do and i don't know if there was like a rule against it because andy's was like this and his was the closest but i though i immediately thought put uh some sort of smushy cushion there to

protect your head how's your head she cushion smushy cushion all right mary we're gonna go back to you we're sticking with the clothing items what pattern was on rachel's socks this episode oh was it twist just keep on coming was it a chevron b houndstooth c puzzle pieces or d smiley faces unless they've got miss sun's face on them all right very good you passed the first test we know you're not part of a certain section of the internet. Let's go puzzle pieces. It's all tied up, Mary. That is correct. I remember that.

I remember that from like her pregame stuff. She was mostly just I have socks with puzzle pieces. So I thought it was most likely. Which also, you know, her and Annika were the ones that were clutch on the puzzle. So I love that. That's what we go for. Actually, I do think that's a bad decision, though, for a survivor. You know, I was going to say, should you wear the advertise it? Yeah, you should wear like, I don't know, like I'm with stupid sock pointing up to yourself to be like, I'm not good at puzzles.

Do they make I'm with stupid socks? I'm sure they do. But what if they're puzzle pieces, but they're just not put together correctly? Like you couldn't solve the puzzle. Is that, is that allowed? Oh,

that's a good question. Yeah. If it's like an unsolved, like listen, listen, my socks, my feet can't solve a puzzle. What do you think my hands could?

Yep. Yes. They absolutely have. I'm with stupid socks. So if anyone, any future survivor players are interested, this is the next level strategy. I've got an idea for a stocking stuffer.

All right. We're all tied up, Mike. We're going back to you. Back to the quotes. So to set the scene, Andy and Genevieve were talking on the beach in the morning. How does Genevieve reply to Andy after he says, I'm excited for what we could do, the possibilities.

Does she say, A, yes, B, yes, yes, yes, C, yes, yes, yes, yes, or D, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes? Okay, can you give me just the count of yeses here one three four five oh this is impossible i have to figure out what's the last question enough attention okay god damn it all right so i have to figure out how many times so it's between three and five like it's not gonna be that jenny just says yes and that's it it's it's got to be either yes yes yes yes yes yes

yes or yes pause yes yes mike yes yes yes yes yes it is five yeses i don't know how you got that that's amazing i'm very impressed very impressed press press press press press press press all right i still love that it's like was genevieve trying to figure out something to say to follow it up and all that came out of her mouth was yes. And it was specifically. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. That was the delivery as well. So it was like a, yes. Think of something to say. Can't think of anything to say. Just say yes.

A bunch of times. Mary, we're going back to you. What does teeny say when the reward group is playing baseball after their feast slash nap. Bones. Bones. Does Teeny say, hey, bada bada. That's A.

B. No foul balls over here. C. As Jeff says, check your ball your ball or d hit it so hard would you like me to reread the no i'm good you know what i've been sticking with it every single guess i'm going back to c jeff said check your balls i wish i wish wish wish teeny had said that i just did say check your ball um in the immunity challenge which i do think testicular cancer so you know definitely check your balls uh but no it was no foul balls over here was the teeny teeny get better lines i mean chuck your balls man now we are down to our final two questions mary you're not out of this yet but if mike gets this one correct then we're playing for fun in the cooler or the deep freeze as jeff likes to say to really humiliate a group. Now we are going to a visual clue thing for this.

So I have prepared, I'm going to read you the question, but your options are going to be shown as images. So Mike, we're going to go back to you and I will do my best to describe these images for those who are listening in the audio only. So question number seven, Mike, I've shared the screen. If you'd like to add it, Mike, this is for you. What emoji best represents Sam's face when Jeff announces there will be potato salad at the reward feast? Is it a, the shocked face emoji. B, the smiling emoji mouth open. C, the tongue out emoji. Or D, the smiling winking emoji. Okay, it's got to be C or D

because those are two of the oddest expressions you could ever have besides outright crying at the idea of potato salad. So either Sam is panting like a dog or he's like, I don't know, trying to hint at some sort of romantic affair with potato salad so either sam is panting like a dog or he's like i don't know trying to hint at some sort of romantic affair with potato salad one of the rare foods he's eaten in his life up to this point coming to survivor so i'm gonna go with oh man i i think it's gonna be see i think sam and his floppy tongue is what stuck out to you, much like his vestige here.

Well, Sam's floppy tongue, while sometimes on my mind, was not the correct answer. It was the shocked face emoji. Now, obviously, this is open for interpretation, but I do believe of the ones I chose. Where's that tongue? See, no tongue. It's in there.

There's very little teeth. There's no wink. Saul's like, what's your technique? I know. All right. So Mary, you're still in this. If you get this one correct, we're going to a tiebreaker, which I have not prepared for, but we'll figure something out. Now you can probably guess. Your question is very similar what emoji best represents Jeff's face right after Rachel leaves tribal and heads back to camp so it's right when they resume right when they resume the tribal council man I hope it's a I hope it's b I was like I do did it a so to describe the emojis, option A is the sort of smirking side eye emoji.

B is the smiling hands up, like hug emoji thing or maybe inappropriate touching emoji. C is the eyebrow raised emoji. And D is the pondering emoji with your hand on your chin. All right. Here's here's where I'm at um i've i've guessed c every single time but also coincidentally it wasn't a strategy it just happened but also i feel like i have noticed in the past with jeff that kind of no matter what most people do he does like at tribal he does do the eyebrow raise emoji like quite a lot like wonder what's gonna

happen now so i'm gonna go with c okay you're gonna go with c so unfortunately i had chosen d the sort of pondering emoji uh hands on is he asking now what as the caption show yep and that was actually why this stood out to me as well, because I love the idea of Rachel leaves. And then Jeff's like, so now what? Now? Yeah, fair enough. All right.

Well, well earned, Mike. My strategy, my C strategy didn't work. Why shouldn't she have done like what the Rizzler does and do like the checking the jawline like the kids do nowadays in TikTok? Not the Rizzler. Yeah. Jeff is a huge Rizzler fan. He's a big Rizzler fan. Yeah. Uh-huh. He's totally up with the Ohio skippity Riz or whatever you say. Is that accurate? I don't know. Well, congratulations, Mike. A score of two to one. You have successfully won. But Mary, you put in a valiant effort and you were close

on a lot of these so congratulations all liana you're gonna have to come up with a game later on next season of just all expressions using emojis because that was fire emoji okay i'm not gonna lie i did have a couple other options so i i think it's possible i think we can definitely do it we'll keep it keep it in the old brain tank. Well, this podcast has me feeling quite smiling emoji, but a tear is falling on this yellow face as it is time to go. But first, of course,

we like to spend the end of every B&B by giving our guests the opportunity to plug a charity or cause that is important to them. Highlight it for the listeners out there. Mary, what do you got? So my friend's father is currently suffering from primary sclerosing cholangitis, which is a liver disease along with bile duct cancer

combined are not a great situation. And so it was something that I had not heard of that, that liver disease, um, for until he had it. So I wanted to shout out, uh, PSC partners seeking a cure. So you can go to pscpartners.org and, um, donate there if you're interested or so inclined. Um, and at the very least, I would also recommend going to the YouTube channel, Eric Kidwell, where he is documenting his journey here going through this and kind of talking a lot about different cancer treatments, as well as healthcare in the US, etc. So it's a great educational way to kind of support him as well. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for bringing that up. And I guess I'll add a sort of

charity or cause, I guess, to the end of this as well. Of course, we are talking again on the eve of Election Day 2024. For those who have not voted yet and live in the United States. We saw this very episode, what happens when people are unfortunately not able to vote. Outcomes that maybe do not go certain people's ways end up occurring. So please let your voice be heard. We say it all the time in the new era, your vote is your voice. We all have the right to vote. So please utilize it. Look for your local polling place. Contact all your the right to vote. So please utilize it. Look for your local polling place. Contact all your friends and family members. Make sure that you have a voting plan. You got to have a plan on Survivor as well. And it is time to vote in a manner of speaking. It is

time to go. But Mary, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for binging the past month of Survivor 47 in anticipation for this. This was it was great yeah this was a lot of fun uh and i know you are also did you just wrap up your coverage of love is blind season seven there's still more to do no uh love is blind season seven is done however if anyone would like to go back and binge that you can binge that as well as um all of the episodes that we covered over on the Love at First Sight feed of RHAP, myself, along with Asia and Jason Reed. So if you need a little more Asia in your life, you can go get it over there. Don't we all.

What would you recommend this season? How did it stack up? This is the season that so far geographically has been closest to where I live. So that was fun and interesting. You know, it was an interesting journey for myself who did apply to the season to be like, all right, who did I miss out on? Or be like, you know, did I dodge a bullet? And I think, I think the answer to that was, yes, I dodged a lot of bullets. Oh my God. Good, good good good so yeah um it was interesting yeah all right well liana what's happening with you uh did you have any dreams about applying for the mass singer and you just

look on stage being like if only i could have been one of them only that was me no i've seen the costumes this season there's one called goo you know i think i really dodged a bullet there uh no we're big we're big goo fans in this household uh but we actually did take a break from the mass singer not by choice baseball gave us a week off but we're back baby this week is going to be the finale of group b so we and i are really excited to dig into everything from mass singer all right uh and of course you can check out at leon rhap check out at frail m at a Mike Bloom type, check out my conversation with Tiana. It was a really great one where she was very open as she was on the way out about her feelings towards everything.

Again, I mentioned some of the little tidbits she gave about Sue. There was a lot to crack open there at a veritable archipelago of opinions when it comes to Tiana. I had a great time getting a chat with her over on the scripted TV side of things. I'm doing TV for real. I'm doing Battlestar Galactica. I'm doing The Penguin

as well, which is finishing up. So check that all out if you are so inclined. Or just stick around for the B&B as we'll be back. The jury is here. Seems like, you know, we're relatively home free with twists from here on out. So it'll be very interesting to see what exactly

happens. There were a lot of plans put in motion again, before things ended up getting divided a bit at the beginning of this episode. And we'll see if we just hit unpause on that, or if this Tiana boot, if a two coup, perhaps being a little bit more fractured, being going into this situation,

being to four instead of five will affect anything, no matter what we are going to have a first juror. And we're going to be breaking it all down with another guest of course send us any game ideas you have do not be shy we are open to anything and everything rhapbnb at gmail.com and hashtag rhapbnb let me amend to that we're open to everything except for Saul sticking the entire communal mashed potato spoon in his mouth. I like to think it was at the end when it was just sort of the bitter dregs that everyone else had already sort of gotten their serving of potato salad, because otherwise that's so disappointing.

Did this come before or after Bones? This was before Bones. Bones! Bones! And she says it twice. And then Saul claps for Bones. He's like, yes, but I love that tv show I love bones all right well we are going to unearth another episode of the b&b also known as bones and

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