RHAP: We Know Survivor - Nothing But Netflix: She’s All That
Episode Date: November 10, 2024In this week’s episode, Rob and Chappell watch and discuss the 1990's classic, She's All That, with special guest, Josh Wigler (@roundhoward)....
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I was flipping through the channels the other day, but there was nothing good on, I had nothing to play.
So I went to my computer and realized that there was so much content before my eyes.
There's nothing but Netflix in my heart and on my screen.
There's always something that I still haven't seen.
But maybe one day we can try to watch the rest.
So Rob and Chappelle, give it your best.
Yes, that's right.
Nothing But Netflix is back with a special edition this week.
We're talking about, we've never done a Paramount Plus.
We'll figure out what that is called here on this special feature talking about the film.
1999's She's All That, a topical film this week with a guy.
Some say he's all that and the bag of chips it's chapelle
hey what do we call paramount plus uh joint i got i got nothing i got nothing i i didn't even i
didn't watch this on paramount plus because oh would you watch this movie kind of have this
movie memorized it's not even you know like so it's like this is this is a classic nothing but
netflix uh because you know this is a classic, nothing but Netflix,
uh, because you know, this is a classic movie. I don't know. Maybe we call it nothing but Netflix classic. Remember Turner classic movies. Maybe we just have like a, a set for just nostalgic
movies. Like when we did, uh, back to the future and stuff like that. Yes. Okay. The movie he's
all that is on Netflix. She's all that is on Paramount plus hence the synergy as it's referenced here in the latest episode of
Survivor. And so we will get into all of that here with a very special guest, of course,
from We Know Scripted TV, Josh Wiggler. Josh, how are you?
I'm doing quite well. Thank you for having me
Even though
Did I qualify for this podcast
Because I got LASIK and removed my glasses
Is that
One of the many reasons
It was kind of a bet
I didn't want to let you in on that too early
But Rob didn't tell you this was a whole bet
I bet I could get Josh Wigler
That's how it started but it's it was different that's
that's not why that's literally a bet that's you're an effing bet no am i a fracking no no
this is that that chapelle was like like hey uh do you want to have josh on the podcast and i was
like bet and and and then he took it the wrong way no i took it the right way josh i'm sorry to tell
you this though so despite your glasses and your paint
covered overalls, you are here as
a bet. And I won. I won the bet. You're here.
Look at that. All right. Well,
Chappelle, are we still going to prom together?
Yeah, we got to. We got to. Sorry, Rob.
You're naked at graduation.
Let's just... Okay.
We're going to... Chachi does have
some suggestions for a paramount.
Yes. What is it?
There's a couple of good ones.
On the plus side?
On the plus side.
That's what I was going to say.
Yeah.
I like on the plus side.
Okay.
Plus or bust?
But on the plus side, there's like five.
There's like too many pluses.
But plus or bust?
Plus or bust.
Plus or bust.
I think it's got to be more about the Paramount.
Oh. Oh.
Yeah.
They don't have a lot of real...
Paramountly speaking is not that good.
Paramount importance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, unfortunately, we're really looking at pluses.
There's like Apple TV Plus and...
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So try this again, but emphasis on the Paramount.
In the meantime, while ChatGPT is working on that for your Survivor Watch.
I'm going to vote for.
Sorry, that's a wrong, wrong Survivor clip that I pulled.
So for Survivor fans that we are going to spoil through episode eight of Survivor 47, in case you have not watched it yet.
But a player in this Survivor season, Andy, talked about his position in the game this week.
And he described it as being overlooked by some of the other people from his starting tribe.
This is how he described his situation.
I feel like this is by like,
she's all that makeover moment.
I'm starting this game just like,
oh, hi, I'm Andy.
Like, please like me.
I'm Syrup Sam.
Like, you're the cool kids.
Like, can I sit at your lunch table?
And now I'm at the merge.
And I'm getting a lot cooler and like i don't need to wear these freaky glasses anymore and i could be the andy that i believe myself to be i could be my full version of myself
and i can turn into the pivotal player in this post-merge. So I had said to Chappelle and Josh,
I said, hey, we gotta go back to 1999,
just in general,
but specifically to go watch 1999's She's All That
because what other things will it tell us
about Andy's position,
how the merge and how maybe Survivor 47 at large
is going to turn out?
Maybe it's all there and she's all
that yeah well everyone else is there and she's all that so i feel like the odds are there's going
to be something to divine there's a lot to unpack here so we've watched it we're ready to talk about
it now chapelle you and i are especially prepared to talk about that because earlier this summer on
nothing but netflix and of course you could hear all of our nothing but netflix episodes go to rob's website.com
slash netflix uh for that every week uh we've got great coverage of everything that's coming out on
netflix that you want to hear about and we talked about a movie from one of chapelle's favorite
movies of all time from right around this time frame, 2001's Not Another Teen Movie, which borrows heavily from She's All That.
Yeah, that's largely why I don't think I have to watch She's All That ever again, because I know Not Another Teen Movie by heart.
And it's pretty much the same movie with just added influences from other teen movies.
But the connective tissue is obviously, you know, this storyline about we made a bet to make somebody prom queen but we got a beautifier because she
wears glasses and she has paint cover overalls ill that's gross right and so um andy is going
through something similar he feels like his glasses and overalls are making him somebody
actually can't trust the game different survivor player is paint covered but that's a totally
yeah yeah not neither here nor there um but yes that's more like different movie. That's neither here nor there. Yeah, neither here nor there.
But yes, Andy's- That's more like the movie Never Been Kissed,
which is also parodied in Not Another Teen Movie.
Right, yeah.
And that lady was definitely not 45 either
in Not Another Teen Movie.
Sue Barrymore.
Yeah, Andy is struggling because he's like,
I gotta be a part of the cool kids crowd.
And this is my she's all that moment.
Okay, cool.
We reviewed the tape. Let's see if this is his she's all that moment okay cool we reviewed the tape let's see if this is a she's all that moment and what does that mean for eddie's
game yeah all right so we can talk about all of that i ironically just another full circle thing
about this i believe that the netflix movie he's all that was covered on robin akiva need a podcast
on the robin akiva need a podcast episode in which Nothing But Netflix was born. Yeah. Look at that. So we really come all the way. Whoa, really? Like that's
how Nothing But Netflix happened? Yes. Yeah. I was on a plane listening to a podcast and listening to
Renap and I woke up and I heard my name because I sleep on all the, all my flights. And I woke up
like, I was like, wait, who's talking about me? And so I had to rewind it and Akiva
was like, yeah, you could call it Nothing But Netflix
or something. And I was like, wait, what is happening?
I don't know. Listen,
we'll have to go back to that tape.
Don't give Akiva credit for my
ideas. Rewind the tape to 99. Let's go
find out how it was. But yeah, I
definitely was very surprised that this
was coming up. Get off the plane. I sent a text like, is there
something you want to tell me? And so yeah nothing but netflix was born and um i think i
like all the connective tissue here there's so much do like hill is in this movie well and then
also i think then the first nothing but netflix proper that we did was talking about squid game
with josh wiggler so it's all yeah it's all circle yeah so this is the perfect time to announce the
series finale of nothing but netflix here with she's all that well and
there's a ton of connective tissue in the cast of this movie as chapelle mentions uh dule hill
of course uh star of suits which uh chapelle and i uh podcast all about also launched here on
nothing but netflix let's be clear yes our first suits episode was right here on nothing but
netflix okay for the ogs they remember all right uh we have kieran culkin is also here star of succession josh who
who knew like who not we already doing some roman roy stuff here he's already him he's fully
formed he's making margaritas and he's like 15 14 he's making he's making margaritas and he's like 15, 14, 13. He's making margaritas and he's like spiking drinks too.
Yeah.
And he's like sending people off to drive after that as a prank.
Like that's some Roman Roy stuff we're doing.
Making people eat their pews.
Yeah.
Well, he didn't make anyone do that.
He was complicit.
He was a junior in a very heroic moment, mind you.
Yes.
And then also Matthew Lillard is here and connect him back to not only is he a reality TV star in this film,
he also is the star of Jeff Probst's directorial debut, Finder's Fee.
He was in Finder's Fee?
Matthew Lillard?
I believe so.
Right.
That's incredible.
Also, last week we talked about Time Cut here on Nothing But Netflix, and it was a parody of Scream.
And a lot of people know that Matthew Lillard was, you know, one of the characters in the Scream franchise as well.
Yeah.
I don't know if he's the star of Finder's Fee, but he is in Finder's's fee with an all-star cast with Ryan Reynolds,
James Earl Jones, and Robert Forster.
I heard
Ryan Reynolds isn't that funny.
In Finder's fee or in real life?
Generally.
I've heard he's only attracted to men.
People tell me that only men think
Ryan Reynolds is hot. Women are like, eh.
Yeah, that may or may not be true.
Okay.
I think you could pull on a lot of different strings here on Reynolds is hot. Women are like, eh. Yeah. That may or may not be true. Okay. He's all that.
I think you could pull on a lot of different strings here on She's
All That, and you wouldn't have to go
six degrees to land
on R.H.A.P.
I think that's because She's
All That is as
star-studded affair
as you could possibly get for the year
1999. This is among the very most nineties movies you could possibly get.
And what's great about it is as a 1999 movie,
this is like the last gasp of the nineties as well.
This is like the nineties being like,
all right,
let's dance it out.
Things are never going to be like this again.
It's a fat boy.
Ultra nins.
So just a bygone era being chronicled here in She's All That.
1999, the last year without Survivor also.
That's right.
There you go.
That's right.
Not counting 20.
I like it because it does feel like there's a,
like it's like the new Brat Pack of sorts.
You know, like now looking back, like in the moment, it didn't have that same impact of like, look at these teen stars, these young adults that are like taking Hollywood by storm.
But when you look back at these young adults, like, no, these were the next, the people who were next up, Gabrielle Union, you know, Dulé Hill, Freddie Prinze Jr.
Like these people, like we did not know how big they were going to be, you know. And a lot of them have become legends in Hollywood at this point.
And I think a lot of it starts here at She's All That.
Okay.
All right.
She's All That.
The story of one high school and one special, a couple of students that are special.
We meet Lainey Boggs.
We talked about Janie.
Was she Janie Boggs in?
Janie Briggs. Janie Staney Stainpants
overalls is what they call her.
She's an
art student
and we meet her
waking up her brother
for juice.
Yeah, and she's going to hock a loogie in it.
She was going to do it too.
She's going to hock two of them in it. She was going to do it, too. She's going to do it, too. She's going to hock two of them.
So Kieran Culkin is in bed, and he refuses to get out of bed.
And she says, hey, get out of bed, or I'm going to hock a loogie in your juice.
And that seems like it's just a threat.
But then he opens the door just as she's like, suck the spit back up.
She's about to do it uh don't mess
with laney boggs there are no empty threats take laney boggs at her word she's telling you the
truth yeah she's a unique rebel you know she listens to bikini kill you know she's dark twisty
you know she's not like the other girls so kieran calkins character, Simon Boggs, a little brother, did you feel like, is he recognizable?
Yeah.
All the Culkins look exactly the same.
Like, I couldn't tell you which one it was when I first saw it, but I was like, it's one of them.
And I think you just have to use process of elimination.
Like, Macaulay's too old for this to be him, but it could be one of those other two.
Did either of you notice, is he wearing a hearing aid in the film?
Okay.
Is that mentioned in the plot in any way?
Is that like a deleted storyline that he is hard of hearing?
I think it's just a grace note on the character.
Yeah.
His IMDB or whatever said that his character was originally written to be deaf and have no lines.
But the narrative was changed during the filming.
So they had a thing.
You're in Tolkien.
Right.
Okay.
We can't shut him up if we try.
Okay.
So I guess they already had filmed some of the scenes with the hearing aid.
Like doing secret handshakes. What's up, player?
It's like, okay, we just
gotta leave this in.
Let him talk.
Lainey Boggs, played
by Rachel Lee Cook.
Some say too many cooks, Josh.
There's a Rachel on
Survivor, and I think it's
very important that as we're trying to map She's All That onto Survivor here as we're entering the jury phase of the season,
that we need to chart Rachel's journey, not just as it pertains to Andy, but we should chart it as it pertains to Rachel as well.
Yeah.
And that's safety without power, I think, a couple of times throughout the film.
Certainly.
Yeah.
All right.
So she is the child of Kevin Pollack is here.
I love Kevin Pollack.
Yeah.
What's Kevin Pollack up to now?
No clue.
He's a terrible father, though, I think.
You think so?
Yeah, I do.
Why?
I think you think so.
Yeah,
I do.
Why?
So he's like,
he's single dadding it.
And,
uh, just very,
very pass.
He's a widow.
He's a widow.
He's a widower.
I,
you know,
I,
with,
with respect,
uh,
he's just allowing his daughter to run the whole house.
And he's just like,
sort of like fully leaning into it.
And like,
he has some moments where there was like, ah, you should just be a kid and get things done.
And so like, OK, that's easy enough to say.
But are you then going to clean the house or are you still just going to watch TV with Kieran Culkin?
He's like, well, I'm still just going to watch TV with Kieran Culkin, but I'll be rooting for you to get laid by Freddie Prinze Jr.
Whoa.
So it's like a lot of weird
energy, I feel like, coming from
Kevin Pollak. Yeah.
He says later on in the movie, hey, like, hey,
I'm a businessman. I own
my own business. I put food on the table.
I want a team effort.
I'm a pool cleaning guy,
but I'm also, I'm a good guy as well.
You know, he doesn't want his 17-year-old to be
the adult of the house uh even
though she is you know she just is yeah
he just lets it happen yeah
he's not doing enough to sort
of like free her from her
status as the the keeper
of the house yeah he's he's in
mourning we have to see him still
feeling the grief okay okay
so let's meet our cast
of characters at the high school.
Okay.
Freddie Prinze Jr. is Zack Seiler.
Some research on this film suggests that Freddie Prinze Jr. was to be fired.
Why?
During the making of this movie because he wasn't good enough.
The director thought that he was uncharismatic
and not pulling his weight.
So he was given some additional acting training
and he came back better than ever.
Wow.
So the legends go about.
This is Big Break?
He had already been doing,
like he was in I Know What You Did Last Summer.
Yes.
I think Wing Commander had happened at this point.
Wing Commander.
Which is a video game movie adaptation that's horrible
that he and Matthew Lillard were in,
and so they became friends.
It's always with Matthew Lillard.
And so Matthew Lillard comes here because of their friendship, I think.
And then, of course, they'll go on and join the the mystery team uh and be part
of the scooby gang together uh so yeah can i can i say something bold yeah is this is this although
it's one of his earliest films i think this is like one of his like this is one of the most
notable things he's ever done you know i got i i'm hard pressed to find the more famous property that she's all that
yeah oh so he his big four on imdb uh she's all that scooby-doo i know what you did last summer
and i still know what you did last summer she's all that winter i'm sorry have you guys seen i
still know what you did last summer no that's the one with brandy in it huh brandy's in it brandy's in it yeah he spends like
the whole movie on a boat trying to like get to the island where the i still know what she did
last summering is happening yeah and so he has a very very very boring storyline in that movie
until the end that is being considered one of his top four. That's not great. But I think it's doing an injustice to, yes, as you mentioned,
he has a pivotal role in the final main season of 24.
He is a prolific voice actor.
He has lent his voice to a notable Star Wars character in Star Wars Rebels.
character in Star Wars Rebels. And he was also, he got married to Sarah Michelle Gellar. So who's laughing now? Okay. No, he definitely is a bigger celebrity than he is an actor. You know,
like I feel like his name is way bigger than his filmography would suggest. Yeah. All right. Well, yeah all right well he is a big deal at the school uh zach seiler most popular guy at the school uh
his foil at the school uh dean samson detective dean uh played by paul walker rip also uh connected
to rob mckeven need a podcast through our um to three fast three furious series
did you miss the opportunity here to do threes all that threes all that we could watch it on 3x
although i may have watched it on 3x not quite 3x for me and uh he is here also and dule hill
also uh the aforementioned dule hill part of the gang of the friends, the friend group.
Yeah, very happy to see him here.
Because, again, this is like where we get our Nothing But Netflix start for Suit Yourself, our podcast.
If you're new to Nothing But Netflix, we did a whole Suits Rewatch podcast, a daily Suits Rewatch podcast.
First watch for Rob, where we went through no spoilers at all so if you want to go check that out um you can go to uh suit
yourself.com i believe right uh suits podcast.com yeah yeah go check it out i didn't realize i
didn't realize he was in suits i i know he was in in psych and for me he came on late in the game
yeah is he is he great on suits so So when Mike Ross leaves, he comes on
with Katherine Heigl.
Yeah, he's doing
Dule Hill things.
And then also, we see
that Zack Seiler,
played by Freddie Prinze Jr.,
has gotten dumped.
Yeah.
His girlfriend is the hottest girl
in school. I believe it's taylor taylor vaughn
taylor and taylor vaughn yeah and one piece she's good she's going to be uh the shoe in for prom
queen you know yeah yeah and what happens was that we get a retelling of it is that Taylor Vaughn was at MTV Spring Break and she ends up meeting a guy named Brock Hudson, played by Matthew Lillard, who is the star of one of a fictitious season of The Real World.
I think they say he's from The Real World Los Angeles, but he is not.
They say it's season two.
The second Real world Los Angeles, but he is, uh, they say it's season two, uh, second real world Los Angeles.
Yeah.
Uh,
so he's just there.
He's puck,
right?
Like he's just,
yeah,
he's just puck.
Um,
yeah.
Cause puck is from the real world one,
right?
The first one.
Yeah.
Or something like that.
Yeah.
And so,
yeah,
but I see,
I don't,
I guess season two is definitely out,
but okay. Uh, uh and and puck i think you can also squint and connect him to uh this latest week
of survivor as that he too was eating the peanut butter with his fingers yeah yeah yeah he had some
some tough moments in the pinky like Jeff. Nah,
Rob,
you making that cocaine reference was wild and I'll never forget it as long
as I live.
But,
uh,
wow.
Yeah.
I guess I didn't hear that on the podcast,
but I certainly had that thought.
Yeah.
Um,
but seeing him here,
I have a lot of energy.
Jeffrey does,
you know,
let him cook.
Let him cook.
Yeah.
Let him cook. Yeah. Coke islands coke islands okay and so guess what zach you're broken up with because uh taylor vaughn has met
uh a new guy brock hudson and he's a star she was such a big deal in high school did y'all have any
like local celebrities at your high school where people were just fawning over them because if they'd happen in my school i was not aware yeah um at
my high school uh and josh yes josh famously went to high school was was was lindsey lohan in high
school like a was like had she had any degree of celebrity josh and was she an institution yeah she was she was uh she entered high school having done the
parent trap I can't remember if she was still around during mean girls uh there was another
girl who she was best friends with who uh had red hair and people were very mean about her. They called her stunt double. Oh, okay.
No, it was just very cruel behavior.
But as I've said multiple times on podcasts over the years,
Lindsay Lohan was part of a group of people
that threw ice cubes at people at a junior high dance,
and I got winged in the face.
So I've always blamed Lindsay Lohan for that.
And I have said in the past that I've dedicated my career to one day being deep enough in the entertainment industry as to take Lindsay Lohan down.
But that happened on its own.
And now she seems like really on the up and up and I'm rooting for her again.
So that's where I'm at on the Lindsay Lohan journey at this moment.
I love that.
I'm rooting for her success.
There's a lot to be angry about these days and I'm not going to be angry about Lindsay Lohan anymore. I'm done with that. I'm rooting for her. There's a lot to be angry about these days, and I'm not going to be angry about Lindsay Lohan anymore.
I'm done with that.
We can connect her romantically to another survivor legend.
And that's she was romantically involved with Ozzy.
I believe that's right.
Yes.
Yes.
So we're doing all the survivor things today.
That's it.
Yeah.
We've talked Lindsay Lohan a few times.
If you want to keep connecting, we've talked about Lindsay Lohan a few times. If you want to keep connected,
we've talked about Lindsay Lohan a few times on Nothing But Nothing.
I suspect she probably has another holiday movie coming up.
I wouldn't be surprised if we talk about her again in the next month or so.
It's her bag.
Yeah.
Okay.
So meanwhile, Lainey, she's very involved with her art.
Her art is very dark. i don't know i this is so
interesting to me in terms of like uh would laney boggs the artist be more celebrated in 2024 than
she was this is 25 years later for she's all that i don't know if we've mentioned that 1999 to 2024 uh would her with laney boggs the artist as forget the pre
makeover would she be more celebrated in 2024 i don't know i don't know if she wasn't celebrated
back then you know she gets this uh her work gets to the art school that she's trying to get to you
know her teacher but it's not until she has a fundamental shift oh yeah so she takes off her glasses maybe that's what it was you know maybe she didn't need the
glasses you know she should have been rod dogging it the whole time uh it was dark her her art was
dark and twisty her classmates basically said like why don't you kill yourself then people
will respect your art even more and i'm like cool not cool that's awful yeah but she got hers
yeah but then you know like you said due to transformation, her art brightened up a little bit.
And then people were like,
oh, this is palatable.
We can do this.
And so, yeah, later on,
I think you're right.
Time will tell.
But Lainey would be one of the artists of our day,
I'm sure.
Well, again, to sort of,
to try and bring this to the assignment
of mapping this onto,
let's say, Baby Andy, right? Because baby
Andy is all that. He's Lenny Boggs.
That's what we get. Baby Boggs here.
So to map
that, like Andy's
gameplay
25 years ago,
like we're kissing Borneo,
so let's call it 24 years ago.
I think Andy's early
gameplay gets him voted out fast in OG Survivor.
25 years greater on the other side of his initial panic, Andy's getting to the merge and his art is starting to be appreciated.
Interesting.
So I feel like the Andy archetype has improved with time.
Let's talk about this school.
And they have not only a DJ.
Usher is the DJ of the school.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then Usher is still doing great.
25 years later, he's doing Super Bowl halftime show.
But why does your school need a DJ?
Tell us the same thing.
And Chappelle, I think that probably 90210 is not in your wheelhouse, right? halftime show but why does your school need a dj how tell us the same thing and chapelle i think
that probably 90210 is not in your wheelhouse right yeah but the judge famously uh david silver
was like the dj of the so i don't know in the 90s schools had a dj in the 90s schools had djs so
anyone who like grew up and went to high school in the 90s knows this, that this was actually an unpaid but required role for high schools across the United States was you needed to have a DJ embedded in your program.
And not just a DJ, but it would be pumped into the hallways of like, hey, students, what's going on?
Good morning.
And we got so much. This is like Saved by the hallways of like, hey, students, what's going on? Good morning. And we got saved by the bell.
They had KKTY, Tiger.
Yeah.
Yes.
I was born to have that role in high school.
And I got there too late.
I got to high school in the 2000s.
Chappelle, you are the DJ of the high school podcast known as R.A.J.P.
Thank you.
You made it.
You just got old.
Josh, I tried to do the morning announcements at my school.
I just signed up.
Like, can I do the morning announcements?
And they were like, he's not charismatic enough.
I did the morning announcements.
They wouldn't let me.
They said I wasn't charismatic enough.
They told me to go get some acting chops and come back.
But four years later later it was too late
They didn't want to sign me
Rob you did the morning announcements
Yes
Yeah you were the DJ at your school
I guess I was as close as it came
That's cool that's a good deal
That's a good deal
I was not the DJ at my school
I wanted to be the DJ at my school
Yeah I wanted you to be the DJ at your school
Do you know that this film was shot in the same high school
that Beverly Hills 90210 shot in as well?
Yeah.
As well as Buffy the Vampire Slayer,
this stands in for Sunnydale,
which is why Sarah Michelle Gellar makes a dialogue-free cameo
in this film.
Oh.
Blink and you missed it.
Yeah.
I blinked and I missed it.
Was she dating Freddie Prinze Jr. already?
You've seen this movie a million times and you didn't know?
I've seen Not Another Teen Movie a million times.
I've seen the same difference.
She sits at a lunch table
as someone sits down
next to her and she's just there.
She wasn't even dating Freddie Prinze yet.
They were like friends.
I think.
I don't know dating Freddie Prince yet. They were like friends. But I think. Yeah. I think.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It was starting.
Yeah.
Stop it.
It was a long con.
All right.
I know what you did that summer. I still know what you did that summer.
Stop it.
You still knows.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So we have Zach.
He is broken up with.
He's like, but listen, like I'll any girl i date is gonna be popular okay and so
that's when paul walker says not so fast not so fast okay so he's furious in fact and he says okay
you want to make this interesting let's make our bets people okay what do we got here and then uh yeah the bet is jake cannot take a random
unattractive um person and make her into prom queen and uh the most unattractive uh person who
doesn't have her life together of course is laney box so does that mean that maybe uh dean is dean
sam is sam like the one who's like discounting uh andy's uh greatness yeah so
okay if we're gonna map the survivor characters to this is is dean sam oh then hmm
well or maybe or maybe dean is sierra because sierra is the one who falls victim to uh
to what andy's uh ultimate plan is in this episode that we're talking about
yeah so i guess like who is the person who makes and because that this is where the analogy that
andy makes and the movie differ andy uh sort of like uh has this as uh there there is no bet
in the the baby and Andy story that he tells,
but he says,
I showed up,
I had glasses.
I wanted to sit at the cool kids table,
but now I took off my glasses.
I let my hair down that there,
there is no bet.
I wonder is Genevieve the person who sort of sees Andy sitting there and then
says,
Hey,
I could take this person and turn him.
And he gets, because Genevieve kind of gets dumped by,
she's more of the dumper when Rome leaves.
And she's sort of like single of like,
hey, I need a new person to be my, you know, ally.
My number one is Genevieve, really, the Freddie Prinze Jr.
Genevieve Prinzess Jr.
Yeah.
I'm here for that. Yeah, it's fine it's fine yeah yeah um but there's not really somebody uh betting again like no you can't like saul's not
like no way yeah right like well you're gonna take it to the end it's not on my watch this is
hard to tell all i know is that uh rome was the real world guy rome was man yeah that's that much i got
that much i was able to put together so i so i think the andy storyline is less about the bet
obviously and more about the transformation and i think that at that point you have to start
looking at okay what does drive andy to make his big transformation is it just time is like or did he realize hey
they made a bet about me you know like I think for Andy I think he's looking at the the outline
of the cast and saying man they don't think I can do this now I have to let my you know I have to
transform so that I can take this to the next level in this movie lady doesn't think she can
do it they're the ones who are like all right get Anna Paquin on the phone. We got to make a makeover happen.
But is Genevieve like the most popular kid in school
where that her association with Andy
ends up making people change their opinion about him?
I don't know.
Is she pulling the strings here?
To me, the episode just made it seem like,
you know, once Andy got the information
that, you know, he was at the bottom of this alliance it was time to make his move i feel
like andy has a lot more agency in this than laney box did hmm yeah see i kind of feel like uh uh
like somewhere in this sam and gabe are some form of uh zach and dean and I don't know how to break it down
any further than that.
And maybe she's all that
is not the correct movie analogy.
And I feel like Kyle is like,
like who, like Kyle kind of has
some semblance of Matthew Lillard energy.
He's coming in here like tall, lanky, white dude,
just winning challenges. he's like suddenly
shown up here at the merge is like this big deal hmm yeah i i wonder i mean i know we're talking
about she's all that but i wonder if there's a better movie analogy that andy could have that's
what's a better what's a better transformation movie like the like uh is he a mrs doubtfire
transformation movie like the like uh is he a mrs doubtfire no no no no superman right no who's the lady who becomes the glasses on takes them off yeah who's the lady who becomes
the the queen of genobia uh is that um that's um what is her name i he's, I think that's the movie we're looking for. Um,
what is,
uh, princess,
the princess diaries.
Is that it?
Yeah.
Right.
Cause like,
she's a nerdy girl.
And then they tell her like,
Oh,
you can be the queen of Genovia.
And then she does her transformation.
And then she's the new,
she's the new it girl.
I think they're even coming out with another princess.
That definitely tracks.
If Andy wins and becomes survivor royalty.
Right.
But if he loses, it might be she's all that.
Because not to spoil it, but somebody does not become prom queen.
And it's definitely a lie.
She's not going to get the crown at the end of this.
Correct.
Is it more?
I think that that's the difference between whether this is Princess Diaries or she's all that.
Is it a sandwich or is it soup?
Who knows?
Yes.
Chappelle, could it be more of a
Stefan Urkel situation?
Yeah, that too.
Back then
they didn't want me. Now I'm hot, they all want me.
He changed it up.
Now he's the
most popular guy. He has now
slipped into that
Vaughn role. Taylor Vaughn.
Who's Laura Winslow in this scenario? this scenario is it us the audience i think we're
laura yeah i would say that listen i know rjp did not count baby andy out at episode one but i saw
the tweets i saw the posts people were not high on baby andy but right now baby andy's got some
runway i would love to see baby andy like let's let him cook you know i think we're in a good step baby let him rachel lee cook yeah okay all right so six weeks turn anybody into the prom
queen and so uh there's probably some uh you know i don't know if this part 25 years later uh holds
up so great where we go through the various women that could potentially be made into
the prom queen. My feeling is
any one of them could have been prom queen
with the right attitude.
I mean, that's the bit, right? With the right
attitude, any of them that look, you sound just
like our guy, Zach here. Here comes Lainey Boggs
and she falls
as the ugliest woman on earth.
Not her. Oh my god.
She has pain on her overalls who does that
foul individual
not her anybody but her
they said maybe her maybe her
but scary and inaccessible
no way
no thanks sorry
her last name is
Boggs as in like where she
comes from you know
yeah she's radiating witchy energy we
want nothing to do with that i have a better i have a better she's all that survivor story okay
you want to hear it yeah certainly i'm thinking this is the story of q and banu last season
because q says banu is a real he's a he's piece of work. No one's ever going to be able to
work with Banu. I'm going to take him under my
wing. Episode one, he does that.
Yeah, he said, I got this.
And he drags Banu. Jelinski
is like a Matthew Lillard type.
Hey, we should have did this last season
and we can get my boy Jelinski back. But yeah,
I think that's what it is. Q literally
said, I need to go out and make this man a survivor
player. I need to go and fix Banu so that we
can run the game. He tries to drag him through
the season. It does not work, you know,
but it's a period. I'm just
getting the image of Banu
coming down the stairs with
Kiss Me playing.
Dick's pissing under Richard.
Yes.
Out on the bearded barley, Rob. You know, it's a very specific place to get somebody
yeah have you ever been to a bearded barley i bet you haven't swing swing right
rob's cracking up at the bearded barley you wear those shoes and I will wear that dress. One million hearts, none the richer.
Right, there you go.
Okay.
All right.
I do think you could probably map She's All That onto every Survivor season
and this might be a useful exercise at some point in time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So here we go.
We're seeing Brock Hudson
and we're seeing some clips of his uh stint on the real
world um this was fun every time they do this device yeah because it's like remember puck
that because that's really what it is remember puck and yeah so no we haven't forgotten puck
uh you know especially about 99 puck was still a topical name in the you know celebrity sphere
you know it wasn't like now we're like which one was that again was that a real character but back then everybody knew this was put yeah this this movie
is just like filled with like uh hallmarks of the 1990s of like just like like markers that
identify this as a film that was made about and in the 1990s and i think like the idea that there
is like a huge important storyline involving a puck type on
actual real world is
just like this wouldn't be done
now. No one would even
know what we were talking about. People listening to this
might not even know what we're talking about.
Why are they talking about hockey?
Yeah.
Why are they talking about the iconic character who gives
the closing monologue in Midsummer Night's Dream?
Why are they talking about that other character from Toy Story, the toy that nobody talks about.
What are you looking at, your hockey puck?
Ah, that's sad.
So, meanwhile, it's senior year, or I guess maybe it's junior year.
I'm not sure at what point you commit to your college here.
It's got to be senior year.
It's got to be senior year. It's got to be senior year.
Well,
cause his dad is going to fit.
It's the prom then.
Well,
that's,
that's his dad's whole storyline.
It's like,
so Dartmouth.
And he's like,
I mean,
I haven't really decided.
I mean,
he's hiding his acceptance letters.
Tim Matheson plays dad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really pushing the Dartmouth.
Yeah.
But he's like,
I don't want your life
you know
gotta be Dartmouth
I don't hear a lot about Dartmouth
there's another movie or show
or something like that that was centered around Dartmouth
and I can't remember which school or I mean which movie
it was I have to think about it
yeah okay where's Dartmouth
beats me who's dartmouth
yeah it's in new new hampshire in hannover new hampshire dad loves dartmouth what really wants
uh zach to go to dartmouth um meanwhile laney she's just trying to make ends meet at the falafel store
oh man i could go for a falafel right now yeah um yeah she's asking a gentleman in the store
about would he like to get his falafel combo uh supersized and he says supersize my balls yeah i want my balls supersized yeah he does say that
yeah uh this is where zach comes in to try to uh ask her out uh wants to talk about her art
you know what can he do to try to get her interest so uh they end up going to
a the jester theater to go watch a performance art piece. Alexander Jester.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Josh, you ever go to any
performance art?
Yeah, I've gone to a couple things
like this. Yeah. How was it?
Not my favorite thing.
Yeah. This is white shenanigans.
I've never seen anything like this.
This is not my...
Extraordinarily white.
It's pale.
I was sitting there like, oh.
It's no white.
It's like Depp's thing.
It's white.
Performance art happens.
They end up pushing Zach to go up on the
stage. He ends up
hacking Zach.
Never let it drop.
Never let it drop.
So white.
So white.
I don't ever think I've seen a person of color
do a hacky sack in these Americas.
Maybe worldwide, but in these Americas, no.
No.
Yeah.
Hacky sack or pogs?
You can only choose one.
Pogs.
Yeah, good answer.
Yeah, yeah. That's not even a... Stop it. Hacky sack, please. I think can only choose one. Pogs. Yeah, good answer. Yeah, yeah.
That's not even a chance.
Let's stop it.
Hacky sack, please.
I think pogs has a chance of a comeback.
I don't think hacky sack has much of a chance of a comeback.
No.
Yeah.
No.
Now, this was only...
It's definitely not in, like, a coming America.
Like, I don't think anyone is hacky sacking,
but I do think maybe we're doing pogs.
It was only two years until Ethan Zahn was going to bring
the hacky sack to national
attention on Survivor Africa.
The last time it was cool.
And he was literally the only person
who ever made it. Oh, actually, no.
So he brings a soccer ball,
but he does, but he does
hacky sack in the Kenyan
village, right? Hacky sack is his
luxury item, I believe.
And he plays soccer in the village as well. Ah, I had it backwards. Soccer worldwide, hacky sack is his luxury item I believe and he plays soccer in the village as well
but not at Backwoods
specifically Ethan
makes sense
anyway so that he
ends up saying to Lainey Boggs
like hey do you ever take off your
glasses? You have very nice eyes
she's like oh that's rich
that's rich okay
she's not wrong she's not wrong that's rich that's rich okay she's not wrong she's not wrong this her
that's the expense on the richer yeah yeah she's not wrong this man has never spoken to her and
all of a sudden he's like you want to go on a date you got beautiful eyes like get away from me we
know each other we've been in high school for four years what are you talking about why are you all
of a sudden interested in me she's rightfully suspicious him, but she actually doesn't move on it.
She just keeps saying like,
no,
no,
stop it.
This can't be true.
She's like,
this is,
what did she say?
This is surrealism.
Yeah.
Surrealism.
Yeah.
They had a name for it.
Surreal life,
which then Jerry Manfield went to go beyond.
This is just connection.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So she's like,
I'm out.
That's it.
Uh,
he shows up at the house and, uh, meets the brother, meets the dad, impresses them.
He says he'll stay and play Sega all day if she doesn't go to the beach.
She finally gives in.
And now she, too, is on the beach, much like our survivors.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
And she takes to it like like a duck to a buff.
I don't know.
I didn't have anything prepped.
You got nothing.
She plays volleyball well.
No, she doesn't.
She plays volleyball poorly.
So she's baby-andy-ing right now.
Yeah.
Yes.
It's the beach and it doesn't go great.
She's not great at the challenges.
But I do think she ends up being kind of liked by some of these people at the challenges. But she like, I do think like she ends up being kind of liked
by some of these people on the beach.
I think like other than Jody Lynn O'Keefe.
Good social game.
Yeah.
Who is playing the Taylor Vaughn character.
Is John Lovett here?
No, John Lovett has part.
John Lovett's might be in this movie somewhere.
Yeah.
Hiding behind a curtain, reaping all the benefits.
The key to this moment is that
this is one of the times that they see Lainey
not in her drabby, paint-covered
clothes, right? And so when they see her
in her bathing suit, they're like, wait,
there's some star potential in there.
We gotta, you wanna play volleyball with us?
What is this? You know, so it's like, he
notices her eyes, she's like, get out of here.'s like he notices her eyes she's like get out of here they notice her body there's like get out of here you know
you can't be so it's like they're slowly starting to come around to what you know we've all been
seeing is that you know she's all that you know without with or without their blessing right but
they're starting to see it all right julie hill is the king in this movie by the way because he's
like constantly the one who's like let's include you come on this like whole thing is kind of
terrible like just come on and play volleyball and then like later on he's like constantly the one who's like let's include you come on this like whole thing is kind of terrible like just come on
and play volleyball and then like later on he's gonna be like
I'm not taking that bet with you Dean
uh you know like
Dooley Hill's a great guy in this movie
yeah and we know who he voted for
yeah yeah he voted
he voted Rachel Lee Cook he voted
Rachel Lee Cook yeah exactly
yeah all right so
we get to uh an invitation to the party that's going on but you
know she can't go like that uh so uh take some uh convincing from zach to get her to come to
the survivor social hour uh going on later on that night and uh well she's like i can't i have
to clean my house guess what soccer team iscer team is going to clean the house.
This is hazing.
We're going to have some JV soccer cleaners going on.
I bet the JV soccer team does a horrible job cleaning the house.
Yeah, but it's not like her dad was doing any better.
Yeah, he doesn't do anything.
He's doing nothing.
Yeah.
And he's obsessed with watching Jeopardyy the show that Survivor 45's Drew
Basile came on and dominated
look at that
more Survivor tissue here
Survivor's all that
and Kieran Culkin is also
eating the peanut butter
disgustingly
much like our Survivors did
yeah he puts his fingers in peanut butter he puts his
fingers in jelly then he gets a whole like a big wad of queso right yeah he's just doing like
he's just eating uh hand dips and sauces and butters yeah uh maybe this kid deserves to be
bullied am i allowed to say that i'm not gonna to step up for it I'm not going to step in
You know I don't want him to eat his pubes
We know who he becomes
He's always been into fluids
Yeah
Yeah Kieran Culkin was
Into fluids from a very young age
I've seen way too much of Kieran Culkin
And now this is getting way worse
It's a lot
He ain a typecast
at this point. Anna Paquin shows
up. Yes, the sister.
Doesn't he shake Freddie Prinze Jr.'s
hand with his queso hand here?
The hell with the queso hand. Ew.
I didn't even notice that. I gotta watch my buddy.
My dude.
Alright, Anna Paquin is Zach's
sister. She's here and she's
going to be giving a makeover to Lainey Boggs.
She's going to take her upstairs.
She's got a dress for her to put on.
She's going to tweeze her eyebrows.
Have you ever plucked your eyebrows before?
No.
No.
No, but I probably should.
I'm not a hairy individual.
You can't see it, there is like just like a little
blonde
a little straight
my wife would like to she's all that
me I think
I think she would like to Anna Paquin
me I do think
maybe she'll let it happen
yes
yeah
Jessica as your maker I command you I'm ready for the true blood recap whenever you
want at any time josh josh don't play with me oh i'm here i'm here for it don't play with me
uh but this is the big difference this is the moment andy's talking about in the episode right
is that he had to take down his hair he had to take off his glasses that made him. And he does this slow motion interest. That's exactly what we're getting here.
The big difference is that somebody does this for Andy or for Rachel Lee Cook's character, you know, in the movie, whereas Andy is taking it upon himself to do his own slow motion interest.
He hit play on the record for Six Pants, None the Richer.
Yes. Yes. He had that locked and ready to go that being said
if we are also trying to chart this dual track of rachel as rachel lee cook then does that make
saul anna paquin uh oh he gave her okay okay a little bit of a makeover at that hour yeah yeah he said i'll be damned if y'all
vote her out now because i've done too too much work i done this makeover took so much time i
tweezed i took her hair down and i took off her glasses bro give me give me more i need more
now think of saul as sookie stackhouse and uh do with that what you will. Wow. Okay. Oh, so I'll stand up.
I don't know.
I old sookie that one.
So Andy considers himself to be an honorary member
of the Lavo tribe, which also wears red.
Yeah.
For the dress.
Yeah.
This is kind of like a red buff.
Yeah, kind of.
Yeah.
And so, you know,
some people used to wear like the buffs like this i
don't think they make them like this anymore yeah all right and so many box trips coming down the
stairs rob this is very andy yes uh she's this she's she trip on the stairs or when she finally
gets out of the gets down the stairs like in none of the teen movie she like bites it on the stairs
and falls through the floor well the house is trash in another teen movie because their
dad sucks and so then she falls yeah all
the way through the ground and then things fall
on her this time she makes it all the way
to the bottom she completes the entrance
but then there's like a record scratch like
a little bit yeah
a little bit
yeah amazing moment
in the film the iconic
scene in the movie when iconic scene in the movie
when she comes down the stairs
for kiss me
did we ever get any kiss me wand
offs over the years maybe
maybe we will eventually
it would be great for Kinsey
last season
Kinsey
would be good for Stan Wanda
or Missy
get her on second
chances too we could do it again
yeah
let's talk about
Missy for survivor 50 please
Missy for 50
the big party is going on
there's a lot of
shenanigans here at the big
high school rager
Chappelle. There was the
girl who was from the art
class that said that Lainey Boggs
should kill herself so her art is
more valuable. She is
puking. She is praying
to the porcelain gods, as
they say.
So that's Clea Duvall
is the name of this actress she's been in a
ton of stuff uh has a great small role on better call saul just like a ton of stuff heroes like a
million things in this movie her character's name is wait for it misty yes it's right there yeah
it's all here she's right there um yeah she says like it must suck for you
right what is she saying like how does it feel it's like oh like what is she gonna reveal something
like that i'm that i'm rich and you're cleaning up my puke i'm a rich girl with a rich girl like
me with a scholarship and you're cleaning up my puke it's like i think this is rachel lee cook's joker moment as she turns misty into
the joker yes now this would be after andy's transformation is this what we're going to be
seeing next episode it's like he's transformed but somebody's trying to humble him you know
whether it's misty or you know uh how does it feel, Andy? Right.
I think we're going to be on the jury.
Andy's red dress.
I think we saw this.
I think this is what he did to Ciara.
No, this is what he did to Annika.
Okay, so it's just Andy.
It's not a chronological order,
but it's still the Andy-ness here.
This is when Annika thought she was headed to the merge.
And she's like, how does it feel, Andy?
I'm a rich girl.
I'm a rich girl about to make the merge.
And he's like, see this?
This is your headstone.
Wow.
And he's got a Joker face on it.
Who's going to spill a drink on Andy's dress, on his red buff?
Hmm.
Sam.
Oopsie.
That's going to stain.
Like, who's going to do that?
Yeah.
You're not going to cry, are you?
Right.
And Andy's like, I never let them see you cry, Andy.
Never let them see you cry.
Yeah.
This is fun.
It's done so much more fun in not another teen movie.
So much better. It's so much better. It's been a much more fun in not another teen movie.
Do you have a long time?
So in this movie, OK, she's wearing they don't really say that she's wearing a very similar dress to Taylor.
Yeah. So it's it's more implied than it's mentioned in dialogue here. And she ends up like spilling a drink i'm like oops be careful with silk in um
not another teen movie laney boggs i think is drunk uh ends up jumping into allow me rob yes
she's drunk on a non-alcoholic beer yes she jumps off of the balcony into the pool gets out soaking
wet and then priscilla the hot girl walks up to her and spills a bottle of water on her already water-drenched clothes and says,
Oopsie, that's going to stain.
And then she says, What are you going to cry now?
And then Janie Briggs runs one way and then has to run the opposite way right before a slow clap starts.
Then Melissa Joan Hart then stops.
Wow.
Fantastic.
I've seen the movie a billion times.
Let Chappelle Rachel Lee cook.
Let me cook.
Let me coke.
All right.
Lady Boggs is going to go home.
Meanwhile, but the next day at school,
somehow gets nominated for prom queen.
Who did this?
Who was the one who did it?
I think this is the star turn, right?
Like we saw her kind of get bullied,
but we also saw her have the big moment
with the Joker face lady.
And so people were like, wait a minute. She took minute she took off those glasses yeah wearing the paint no more yeah maybe i have
something here she's being talked about right like i think like you leave that party and like i think
that there are a lot of people who are probably like wow did she just get a fishy yeah laney more
like laney me and then there are other people who are like mother like looking
at laney pogs so like you've got like at least half of that party like on it like we're filling
her in she's gonna represent us she is our champion okay but but but are we the are we the
people who are nominating uh laney right because yeah now you know we've watched this
episode of survivor we saw andy's big move we've seen andy make a couple big moves in this game so
far are we now thinking does he have any win equity are we looking at absolutely yeah you
can put andy in the prom court i don't know that he's gonna be prom king uh but i think
yeah let's see what happens. It's giving Rob
goddess right now, and I don't like it.
I need baby Andy to pack this one up. Go ahead
and take it all the way.
A Survivor 47 prom court
right now? I mean, yes.
I think it's
not that hard, I think, right now.
I feel like
Rachel's in prom court.
I think Genevieve is in prom court right think i think genevieve is in prom court
right now i think bing b andy is in prom court i think saul is in prom court you don't think sam's
gonna make the prom court he looks like a prom court guy you there's no way he wasn't nominated
for probably kind of underdoggy so i think like he's got like he's got some prom court uh like
he could be like sort of like in the prom court and seems like he would be a normal frontrunner,
but he's been a little humbled.
Yeah, he's Dean.
Epic Dean.
And not the one from Rugrats, Josh.
No, no.
Okay.
All right.
So Taylor, she's got the whole women's alliance.
They all get their beepers beeping.
Guess what?
Brock Hudson broke up with her.
He left to go for all-star road rules.
Yeah.
He wanted to do the challenge.
Oh, road rules.
All-star road rules.
Road rules was happening in 99.
Yeah.
It was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I liked road rules.
We don't do that anymore.
No.
No. No more road rules. It's been gone for a while. Road rules could get rebooted. I liked road rules. We don't do that anymore, no? No. No more road rules.
It's been gone for a while.
Road rules could get rebooted. I would be down.
I would be here for a road rules reboot.
Are RVs still a thing?
Yeah.
We could bring them back if they're not.
They're still a thing.
Do road rules in an ERV
so it's environmentally friendly.
Yeah.
Not as exciting, I Yeah. Not as exciting,
I think. Not as exciting. Not as fun.
Yeah. So... Sorry. I mean, someone's still got to champion this stuff.
Okay. Someone's got to take the road rules.
We get our
big soccer game, and
the guys are going to play some soccer
and then get to the locker
room, and there's a little bit of,
you know... Locker room talk a little bit of locker room talk.
Paul Walker is like, hey,
Laney Box is looking
good.
Yeah.
Paul Walker snaps,
I feel like.
This feels like
Paul Wachter.
Yeah.
Paul Wachter is here this is a real millennial joint by the way yeah yeah yeah uh paul walker versus paul walker yeah walker one uh but paul walker is here being like
always hated you freddie prince j. You always got the cool stuff.
Everyone always liked you.
Well, I'm going to show the world what kind of an a-hole you are.
And like, I'm just watching this being like,
what are you?
My man.
It's you.
You're the a-hole.
Dean.
Not a Dean guy.
With respect to the late great okay he's just he's acting
he's acting yeah he's way better acting than what's going going in the fast and the furious
seas i will never forgive him yeah all right so meanwhile all right too fast too furious is a hard watch. Awful. Zach is going to go back to Lainey and visit her in her basement in the art studio.
And she's he's trying to talk to her about what's going on.
And she's she instead starts reading him for filth.
Yeah.
But she's got a lot going on, right? she instead starts reading him for filth. Yeah. Um,
but she's got a lot going on,
right?
Like she,
this is where he finds out about her mom having cancer.
And as you know,
she's,
she's got to work for things.
He's like,
I got to work for stuff too.
You don't know how hard it is being me.
My dad wants me to go to Dartmouth.
She's like,
okay.
He's like,
and he's always wanting me to go to Dartmouth.
And matter of fact,
everybody knows I'm going to Dartmouth.
Everybody like it's a rich,
expensive school that everybody can't get into.
And I have to get into these.
Do you know the pressure of that?
She's like.
This is how I knew that we were doing.
It was destiny that we were supposed to be here talking about this movie
because that we see where Lainey Boggs says, oh, you want me to feel bad for you?
Oh, you could do anything.
You could go to Dartmouth.
You could go to Harvard.
You could.
You could go to Borneo.
Do you realize how lucky you are?
You can go to Dartmouth.
You can go to NYU.
You can go to Borneo and study squid fishing.
The point is you're 18 and that's old enough to start making your own choices.
Maybe.
Is he about to go to Borneo in this alternate universe?
In this alternate timeline?
Yeah, lift up the shirt.
Show us the nipple ring because this is
Dr. Sean Kniff taking the spot.
Is he about to take
Dr. Sean's spot?
Let me see that Super Bowl. Is he going to
take Dirk's spot?
No, this is Dr. Sean.
This is Dr. Sean.
Flashing the Super Bowl on Maine.
Yeah. Who'd go to Borneo
and go squid fishing?
This is the first time Borneo was said on national television.
Is this an origin story?
He's also, we discover, is a nudist
at the end of this movie. That's what I'm saying.
He lost the bet.
Yeah, he lost the bet.
He lost the bet. Yeah.
Borneo is a crazy name Like a crazy drop
For us to be talking
About this on the podcast
Like that is wild
In 1999
They had the spoilers
Yeah
They knew
Yeah
Okay
Like 25 years greater
Alright
So he ends up
Leaving her
She wants to be kissed
And he ends up
Walking away
And she doesn't even say
Kiss me
At that moment
Yeah
Well
Yeah
She's pretty close To being kissed she's ready to be kissed
i've just took his glasses off and squinted at the camera but he runs away is this just that
he's like oh i gotta like make this i can't kiss her under false pretenses i need to make this
right he's starting to feel bad which i don't feel like baby andy's gonna do i don't feel like Baby Andy's going to do.
I don't think Baby Andy's going to feel all that bad about any of this stuff.
But Baby Andy is not the Freddie Prinze Jr. character.
Oh, right. So who is he waiting to be kissed by?
Is he getting a kiss on the other side of all this?
Yeah, I think he's transformed.
I think he's gone from the Rachel Lee Cook cook character to now he is the freddie prince
junior character like he's now the hot guy they just don't know it yet they haven't seen
there's glasses and stuff are off they don't know this is the risk this is the risk you uh you either
dye uh hair up glasses on rachel lee cook or you live long enough to see yourself become
i guess freddie prince junior like you don't get to just yourself become, I guess, Freddie Prince Jr.
Like you don't get to just stay at the Rachel Lee Cook.
Right.
Right.
Because would people vote for the Rachel Lee Cook with the glasses on?
Right.
Like is that enough?
They vote close.
Yeah.
The closest race of all time.
They said it was close.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They did say.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, we'll get there we'll get there all right
so we were there yeah we were there uh he runs off uh he has like a nightmare dream sequence
about being in the real world and everybody's laughing at him great scene great scene i've
definitely dreamt about being on the real world before this is not yeah yeah this is like i have
this dream uh at least once a week uh except i'm
back out in fiji and i'm being like like i've been lured out under false pretenses to be like uh
sabotaged uh so like i have like i have like the reality tv nightmare every week for sure uh here
is having a vivid one he's all in one okay jeff proff is high-fiving Batman Wagner like, ha, I won the bet.
Investigating his Rachel Lee coke.
Back at school,
we get
an amazing
rap sequence
summarizing
where we're at in the movie.
These black folks,
the regular barred minstrels here
in this movie.
Because they had to rap and tell everybody
that she's all that.
They said the thing.
I pointed. I definitely pointed.
You got to.
All right.
Josh, there is a harrowing
sequence. She's all that rap?
She's all that rap.
Oh, you know, that could have also been a wand off
probably right that's what i'm saying i'm trying to see if lyrics.com has it all right you ready
i've got it do it uh between two girls which one we gonna pick i'd rather pick laney because
taylor beats all shit that was season 46 with charlie used to talk about taylor all the time
yeah i'm trying to see like what else do they say it really is just a recap of the film that was season 46 with Charlie used to talk about Taylor all the time
I'm trying to see
like what else do they say it really is just
a recap of the film
it's like for anyone who like in the theater
joining us had gotten up to pee
or something like in a different movie
yeah yeah yeah
in case you just wanted to get in on like the last
third of the film here's what happened so far
your movies maybe should have like
mid movie recaps yeah it's very shakespearean right because um isn't she's all that uh just like
taming of the shrew right yeah yes yeah so i think that's what they were probably hinting at
yeah yeah oh that's why they have a puck character in here too oh yeah oh yeah yeah okay uh there's Oh. Yeah. It's all Shakespeare. Yeah. Okay. There's a harrowing sequence
that happens now, though.
Okay, so we see, again,
I don't really understand what
the grades are at this school,
but Kieran Culkin is here at
the high school. Is he
a freshman in high school?
He's kind of young.
Yeah.
Maybe it's one of those high schools that starts a little early.
He's going up to all the tables and asking all the students if they want
fresh ground pepper on their lunch.
Which is insane.
Is he being hazed?
Is he being,
no seriously,
is he being hazed?
Uh huh.
Why is there people allowing him to do that?
This is like Lisa sprinkling the glitter on people's food on big brother.
You can't just touch my food. guess what now there's the two kids here that are gonna start bullying now my question is did freddie prince jr put these two bullies up to harassing laney boggs's brother on a specific day no no okay this was very all very convenient
the timing of everything well not only is the timing it's like if sam showed up and was like
all right everybody leave baby andy alone i know you you eat your pubes now you eat your pubes too and i was like and they're like
yes sir yes yes zach thank you like hoover it yeah what does that mean like a vacuum you know
i wasn't paying such close attention to the movie at the point that this starts unfolding and so
watching it happen uh with uh having like just like looked away from
the screen for a little while uh was a very alarming experience i didn't realize that he
it was a pizza initially i was like is he putting pubes on a chicken parmesan
like what's happening over here but yeah it's this it's the it's the, it's the, this is like the redheaded bully from a lot of like 90s movies.
And I'm trying to, yeah, what is he, what else is he from, this kid?
He's in American Pie for sure.
Yeah.
Redhead guy.
What is his name?
Got him.
Blocked him.
Chris Owen is the name of the actor.
He's an icon.
Okay.
Let's just say that.
He is an icon. He's just say that he is an icon
he's 44 currently that's the shermanator that's the sherman okay yes yes yes shermanator thank
you god uh if that had gone uncommented upon i think that would have been really bad by us
uh the shermanator uh puts his pubes on not a chicken parmesan,
but a cafeteria pizza.
And then Freddie Prinze Jr. comes in.
We were talking about Stifler last week over on Final Destination.
As you should have been.
He saves, how much Final Destination have you watched?
Only one.
Just the final.
I've seen most, I've seen all of them, I believe.
Chappelle really knows a lot about it if you thought that that was good
about not another teen movie then
he's got it for Final Destination 2
you flatter me I actually did misspeak on this one
though it's not she thought that is not taking this true
that's 10 things I hate about you
she's all that this is the
screenplay by M. Night Shyamalan which is
I know wow
a twist
and you know what else has a lot of twists?
Got it.
The new era.
Josh, is this the Survivor auction?
Because Jeff Probst is like,
hey, I know you don't eat pubes,
but you just paid $300 for it.
First person to get the pubes down
gets to win a big breakfast.
Well, the good news is, Kyle, there's dairy on here.
Yeah.
I mean, this is a hate crime.
This is a garbage.
Yeah.
In case anybody didn't watch the movie, these two bullies come in, and then in addition to, like, bullying
Kieran Culkin,
and now this might be something in
succession, Kieran Culkin may,
this is where he gets the ideas for
these things. This kid, like,
ends up putting
his
pubic hair onto
And he, like,
he, like, pinches them out, I think.
Yeah, was he
keeping them there? Did he
pluck... I'm so sorry to get this graphic,
but it's like a thumb and four
fingers worth of like a... You know what this
looks like?
Chappelle, you know when they do the
final four fire making?
Yes. Oh, and they're like, yeah,
you gotta get your tendons. That's like what you Yes. Oh, and they're like, yeah, you got to get your tender.
That's what you need.
Hey, life hack for the future
survivors. Okay. Yeah. Use the
pubes. If the leaves
and stuff are too wet, you know, you
got to have something. Sorry for you. I took
your flint. Hey, don't worry. We got back
up. That's fine.
You can have it.
We've got a redhead right here. You can have it. That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. You can have it. We've got a redhead right here.
You can have it.
That's fine.
Famously.
The sheer force of will that must exist
within the Shermanator to pull that off
literally.
Good God.
It's a significant amount
of pubic hair that he has
just yanked
Off of his body
And then what were they going to do?
Were they going to force Kieran Culkin to eat the pizza?
Or were they just
Basically going to just
Wait for him
No they didn't do
It was not like there was no camouflage
So no reasonable person was going to
Eat that without
Well no they distracted
him they did they distracted him and while but eventually he was going to put his eyes on the
pizza and be like oh what is this a mountain of pubes on my pizza like he would have known for
sure easily identified as pubes or you're like just oh there's hair in my food maybe this is
why baby andy wanted no money for the auction yeah right they say the survivor pizza legendarily
not good also well josh always said he would try the survivor pizza listen yeah well but yes so
chapelle i had said yesterday when uh we were gonna be getting ready to do this i was like
you know what maybe this might be a fun movie maybe i'll watch this with my kids maybe yeah
and then i got a
message from josh wiggler like like i was watching first like it was like my beeper was going off
like beep beep beep beep 9-1-1 tag like don't don't watch the movie with your kids a ginger
puts his pubes on the pizza yeah oh that was your you reached in your bag and saw a scroll from
josh wiggler and said like listen yeah this. I had the safety without power out of the Paramount Plus app.
You know what?
And in our continued interrogation of this film, now that we're talking about it, I think that I was a very good friend to you in that moment.
I don't think and I think I was a responsible adult for Dominic and Anthony.
I don't think that they should have put eyes on this.
Yeah, I think that it might've been
just like over my kid's head though.
I was like, meanwhile,
I watched this movie in the 90s as well.
There was a lot of cursing though in the movie.
Yeah, they dropped the F-bomb.
I was surprised.
Yeah, it wasn't as wholesome as I remember.
It's not a wholesome film.
Like within 10 minutes, it's an unwholesome,
within like the first few minutes of the film, it's an unwholesome film like within 10 minutes is an unwholesome within like the first few minutes
of the film it's an unwholesome film yeah yeah how can that loogie earlier the day rob was like
i think i'm gonna watch this with the kids like all right well i'll watch it first all right
do that paul walker uh he's gonna show up and he's asking laney out he's shows up at falafel
are we gonna yada yada past the part that Freddie Prinze Jr.
then publicly makes the bullies
eat the pube?
I thought we kind of got to it.
I was like, it was implied. He's hailed
as a hero. Like everyone's
watching. Even Rachel Lee Cook watches
it from afar and she's kind of just like
worse for the friend, I think, than
the person whose actual pubes
they were.
I don't know if that changes anything i don't think it's like your own pubes are more palatable than someone
else's pubes i think pubes is pubes yeah put this on the next renap census uh are pubes pubes yes or
no hmm is that one of the 275 questions no that wasn't the census that wasn't one of the that
wasn't one of the would you rather you eat your own pubes or your friend's pubes?
I think you would
rather. On a pizza.
On a pizza is an important qualifier.
Yeah, on a pizza.
Yeah, I think he's Jeff Probst in this moment.
I think he's like, hey, this is the auction.
You bought this. Now eat it.
Yeah, but one way in which this differs
from the auction is there's some sharing
of food. Right.
You got to share this with somebody. You have to share this
with your friend. Okay. This is like
okay, pick two people to come up here and eat all the
chocolate peanut butter you can in a minute.
Eat all the chocolate peanut butter. Exactly.
Like you have to. Paul Walker
You never have to talk about pubes on a podcast
again. We're good.
I won't make that promise.
Paul Walker, he's going to ask out Laney.
He says, oh, did Zach already ask you out to the prom?
Yeah, he's bold.
He's bold.
He has no connection to her at all.
And now he's like, so I always liked you.
Do you want to go to the prom?
She's like, no, hell no.
He's like, okay, well, just don't let Zach hurt your feelings.
Bye.
Is this A, he just really wants to win the bet? she's like no hell no he's like okay well just don't let zach hurt your feelings is this a uh
he just really wants to win the bet b uh he's trying to uh humiliate zach c he uh has this
hotel room plan that he's uh that thinks that he's going to be able to uh score with laney boggs
thinks that he's going to be able to score with
Laney Boggs. D
all the above. He's going to
score tonight.
I think that there is
there's a darkness
to Dean. Yeah.
All of it. That guy sucks.
I think that
there's like an untapped
if she's all that was remade
as a Netflix limited series. Yeahpped if she's all that was remade as a netflix limited series
yeah not he's there's a dean episode for sure and like in the dean episode you find out about
the pressures on him it's like euphoria yeah yeah we dive deep into dean's and like yeah
why is he like this so like nothing that justifies Dean,
but I think enough content that explains him.
Who broke you, Dean?
I don't think we get enough of an explanation of Dean in this movie,
but Dean does strike me as a character with some unexplored depth.
I think we could have gone deeper on Dean.
Because there's times where he like shows up at the house at the part of the
prime he's like well i showed up that's gotta count for something and there's like something
broken in dean that brings him there i'm glad you mentioned that because for me and i don't know if
i've ever mentioned this on my podcast but paul walker has always been a villainous character to
me because of this uh like you know how you have that one role that's just like you never shake that role. For me, like Macaulay Culkin is always the good son.
Like it'll never be Home Alone like it's for other people.
But for me, it's always the good son.
And so like for me, Paul Walker was always this role.
So seeing him in other stuff, I think Joyride.
Like I'm always like, he's kind of sucks, right?
Like this guy kind of sucks.
I was wrong about a lot of the other roles, obviously. But it's like it's really hard to shake that one that imprints on
you this was the one totally okay percent all right so we see uh zach and dad uh this is really
the end of that storyline the uh i don't want your life you know you can't fix your mistakes so you don't want your life
yeah i don't know if there's a survivor parallel here with the storyline of zach and his dad
is there blood versus water is it in the blood is it in the blood
is dartmouth in the blood is dartmouth in the blood? Shot in the Dartmouth? Yeah.
Okay.
So, Taylor, she's going to go to the prom with Zach.
And this is when Paul Walker reveals the bet.
Am I a bet?
Yeah.
He just kind of blurts it out. He says, hey, just, you know, like, I I mean I know you want to go with him but it's probably
just because of that bet wait bet what bet
should he have put a bet
get out of here
Dean so that's that's
preposterous it made
more sense than what everything happened prior to this
forward-looking could
this be a little bit of a preview of
Sam with
no F's left to give,
uh,
Sierra gone.
Uh,
is he just going to go out there and,
uh,
like,
uh,
drop bombs?
Like,
Oh,
it's just a bet.
Like,
what does he have that he could do?
What does he have to drop?
Like,
Oh yeah.
Andy,
didn't you say that you were gun got the strong you couldn't wait to vote
out everybody from tuku and lavo right it was like what got a strong you didn't say that what
are you talking about say i was like yeah i got you um yeah you have to do something you know i
think this is the moment where yeah we're at the the part of the ball he has to make a move yeah
i think he needs to i mean move. Yeah. He needs to.
I mean, I think he's in that spot right now, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
If Andy is downtrodden, who's doing it?
It's Paul Walker, you know?
And so I think Sam would be Paul Walker at this point in the movie.
Yeah.
And then here comes Taylor to pile on,
just coming out of nowhere with the steel chair to add in on Laney.
Oh, Laney, you didn't think that you became popular for real did you what are you gonna cry now yeah you know she didn't even know about the same
no she heard about here to do that to andy luckily i think no sierra from the jury
yes oh yeah i'm the jury yeah well that that i mean that does lead us to what we're about to get into, which is the votes.
You know, at the end of the season, Andy, does this burn?
You know, Ciara, the mayor of Ponderosa, sitting out there waiting on her chance to dunk on you at the final tribal council.
And I believe that it was in the hit documentary featuring two of the podcasters on this panel.
Featuring two of the podcasters on this panel, I, Stan Cagayan, in which Chaos Cast says, the lesson that I learned, cast me.
The lesson that Chaos Cast learned was you want to put the first person on the jury you want to put on in as clean a way as possible with as little
blood on your hands as possible baby andy has violated that rule yeah he's like that's gone
covered in blood he's covered in sierra
yeah yeah yeah a different story a story of a different prom all together yep right okay
all right so zach keeps calling the phone uh kieran culkin hangs up says wrong number a-hole
a-hole yeah yeah got him there so we're going to the prom laney's gonna go to the prom. Lainey's going to go to the prom with Paul Walker and Zach is forced to go
with Taylor to the prom.
Big
song, dance, choreography
number. Not since the Mecca on
Survivor have we seen anything like this.
Easily one of the best
dance numbers in a high school movie.
I mean, they killed it. I'm calling it the next
thing Survivor needs to bring back
is the Mecca.
We're in Fiji, y'all. Been in Fiji.
They don't even talk about it anymore. If they didn't brought back the Meke
in 400 years and we haven't brought the Meke
back? It would be
unanimously like
Survivor approval ratings through
the roof. I do think
once upon a time when I had some
ears to bend, I think I was like pushing
this. I was like, you guys got to bring Mejia back.
I'm not going to do that.
I think the Fijians said no.
I think they said, okay, you can use Fiji for as long as you want.
Just don't mention us.
Leave us out of it.
I don't want to be a part of it anymore.
You know, I think that's really what it is.
Because you know, the survivor never says it.
Like, we're in Fiji.
Nope, they're just like, all right, it's the new era.
Why?
Because they're contractually obligated to leave fiji the hell alone yeah yeah i think
out of their mouth yeah right yeah okay so but they do the mecca here this is an iconic dance
it's the best dance sequence in any high school movie in the past yeah fat boy slim rock and roll gang R.I.P. right about now
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wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow yeah all right so um the teacher the art teacher shows up and tells laney at the prom i faxed your
art to school what i faxed your art it's crazy
so you show art art schools wow yeah i faxed it in yeah yeah she said like oh man i wish i wish i'd known you were
doing such good art it's a good thing freddie prince jr violated your trust and behind your
back just gave us some of your art to fax to people yeah okay it's like meanwhile i don't
know yeah in the men's room paul walker is bragging about how I got this hotel room, room 409.
I'm going to make history with Laney Box.
This is a lot.
There's some stuff to unpack here that I think is important.
Yes.
So immediately previous to this scene, Eldon Hanson,
who plays Rachel Lee Cook's best friend in this movie,
AKA,
what is his name in Mighty Ducks?
I'm forgetting,
but he's the bash brother.
One of them.
And him and Anna Paquin hit it off instantly.
And there's clearly like immediate sparks
between the two of them.
Yes.
Fulton Reed.
Yes.
Sorry, that was going to bother me.
That was going to bother me.
Thank you.
Fulton Reed and Anna Paquin are hitting it off.
So many sparks.
Keep it away from certain hair.
Yeah.
He's like, he's crushing like a huge plate of food,
I believe, when Anna Paquin comes over.
And so then we cut to the scene
where Paul Walker is bragging
about how he's got the hotel room booked.
And he leaves and everybody leaves
and he's openly bragging,
even says like the room number,
like he's giving out key information.
Lurking in the bathroom stall.
Yes.
On prom night taking a very clear prom night dump
in between macking it to anna paquin is fulton reed yeah and so the prep like the the pivotal
remainder of this movie of freddie prince jr like being like fired up to stop dean from sleeping
with laney under false pretense emanates from fulton reed really had to go yeah and like if he
like and so like a number two becomes a very important part can i also add that right before that, we get the reveal of Eldon Henson's character's name.
What's your name?
His name is Jesse Jackson.
Jesse Jackson.
Yeah.
The Reverend.
Which was an interesting choice.
We're going to name this character Jesse Jackson.
Well, if he was on Survivor Redemption Island
and he was in stealth r us we
know what his nickname would have been yeah i will call you the reverend yes yeah yeah jesse
jackson's my frat brother okay to the bros but yeah and so yeah paul walker is like really bragging
about of room 409 uh he claims he spent $300 on this hotel room,
which in 1999,
this is insane. That's like a million bucks,
right? Insane. Insane.
Like, let's just call it what it is. That's a lot
of money. What a total Survivor
Prize winning. Book a suite?
Yeah. Look at the four seasons.
Yeah, not total landscaping.
Yeah, exactly. The real one.
The real one. The real one.
The money one.
Anyway, so he has this crucial piece of information.
We named the prom king.
We named the prom queen.
Zach Seiler, 1999 prom king.
And Taylor Vaughn, 1999 prom queen.
They say it's the closest vote they've ever had.
They said it was very close, but it was like eight or nine points. It was kind of
a landslide. It unfortunately was not
close. Yeah, you know.
Time will tell, really.
Maybe they still count in the votes. Who knows?
It's possible that there are some votes for
Rachel Leigh Cook that have yet to appear.
But Lainey had already conceded.
She's gone. She's rushing
out because
Dean is like, hey, you want to get a room? Now this is wild because but lenny had already conceded she's gone you know she's she's rushing out because you know um
dean is like hey you want to get a room now this is wild because you know we see that zach and um
and his ex-girlfriend are the prom king and queen as everybody um you know thought would happen but
now he doesn't have time to celebrate because he's got the news from jesse that there's a hotel room
thing going down and he has to rush off and 409 he gets the room 409 and he starts calling like hotel beverly hills hotel hey do you have somebody in
room 409 um like how could you ever find the person you you maybe you could look what hotel
has four floors but he's out of there trying to find uh's in room 409. And I don't,
he somehow then just goes to her house.
And what was your plan?
This is my question.
He was going to wait until she left the hotel.
So like,
you were going to,
you were going to wait there so that you could be there.
Like,
I know what you did.
Oh yeah.
I know what you did.
I still know.
Like, what was your plan? she shows up the next day he's sitting in a dark room
with his chair turned around
turns on the lamp
yeah like
fancy seeing you here
lady
what was your plan
he's like in my home
your brother let me in.
We were playing Sega.
Also, so yeah, when she comes home,
she initially sees Kevin Pollak and Kieran Culkin
on the couch watching TV.
And also, that's what we're seeing.
And then she comes home and rounds the corner
and Freddie Prinze Jr. is standing there in the corner
with his hands clasped. Kevin James.
Yeah, it really is like the Kevin James meme is what he looked like.
And what was the deal?
How did he explain any of this to Kevin Pollak?
And then what did Kevin Pollak say?
Like, all right, you could stay, but stand in that corner.
Or was it like, okay, there's headlights.
Freddie Prinze, go to that corner.
So it's a big dramatic reveal.
Yeah.
Like the choreographing of this,
the staging of this is remarkable.
Yeah.
Do you think he told the dad, like, by the way,
Laney is at a hotel with Paul Walker.
You don't know when he tells the group 409.
Right?
In the greater Los Angeles area.
There's only one that cost $300.
So I can point you to the right one.
That's a good detail
actually. That could have helped narrow some things
down.
In the fervor, I think
he just gave up and went home.
Kevin Pollak is like, look, I gotta
go to bed. I don't care what you do.
Just go in the backyard.
You crazy kids. Take it outside Get by the pool
But he's watching
from the window, isn't he?
Well, he had to set up, he's behind the scenes
He's now production, he's setting up the lighting
Yeah, the backyard
is very, you know,
photogenic
I feel like this is weird behavior from the father
I just think we've already outlawed him. He sucks.
He's just like very, this is very
odd. Yeah. A little overly involved.
Like more cleaning, you know,
like if you want to be involved in my life,
clean the house. Yeah. Right.
Don't worry about my life.
Don't worry about this.
And he lets anybody in the house. By the way, he did
let Dean in earlier. He was like, whatever. He let the way he did let dean in earlier he was like
whatever he let the whole jv soccer team in yeah right he does not care he has like no uh danger
sense at all uh like blindly blissfully walking he's also for a guy who is obsessed with jeopardy
also surprisingly bad at jeopardy horrible at it the jv soccer team creamed him earlier in the movie yeah um so the movie uh we
get this uh last moment with uh laney and with uh freddie prince jr and uh he says hey uh can i have
the last dance he says no this is iconic speech he said that's a different movie you can have the
first yeah iconic speech he said i made
that bet before i knew you before i knew me and you could see her just kind of knees buckle because
that's all he needed to hear this is this is a final tribal council speech okay this is how you
do it yeah take notes pay attention yeah get real close up on them and then you know lower your tone
just a little bit and whisper like i made that bet
i voted sierra out before i knew you before i really knew me and then just lean into it i think
you got it baby andy yeah i think the real the real thing to take away from this as we're trying
to apply it to survivor 47 is that it is not r Lee cook, who is the winner.
It is Freddie Prince jr.
Who wins.
She's all that ultimately.
Yeah.
So it does behoove us to identify the Freddie Prince jr.
Of survivor 47.
And I'm not saying we need to do that now,
but in the weeks ahead for all of us to remember the lessons learned from
she's all that.
And as we continue forward,
which one of these guys is Zach Seiler? Yeah. to remember the lessons learned from She's All That. And as we continue forward,
which one of these guys is Zack Seiler?
Yeah.
Because that person,
he has a growth arc. That person got it.
Yeah.
That person has a final tribal speech banked.
Yeah.
I do think that a lot of the narrative
about Zack Seiler's character in the movie
is a lot of sort of like the ethos of Survivor
of like my dad wanted to be this
and I didn't want to repeat the same life
that my dad had.
So I got out of my comfort zone
and I ended up making a decision
that wasn't what my family approved on,
but I did it for me.
I did what was best for me
and I finally have figured myself
out he's monica and that's why i'm ready to win the prize laney boss freddie prince jr yes
yes neat lady and then we see you know he has to you know a lannister and a prince always pays
their debt and so he shows up to graduation and i don't remember these stakes
exactly but uh i guess he said they didn't tell us what the stakes were uh and so we get to
graduation day and here we call all the all of the uh you know youngsters to go and get their diploma
i i do think that in 2024 this is prosecuted as a sex crime oh
yeah this is this is this he is going to be a sex offender 2025. yeah
but here uh that we see that he stands up at graduation in you, his birthday suit. Yeah, in the buff.
In the buff.
In the buff, yeah.
Holding only a soccer ball
and then
And then?
Gets rid of the soccer ball.
Yeah.
Fully naked.
Mm-hmm.
And
Super pole on main.
Super pole on main.
And I have to say
Besides my balls.
Lainey Boggs,
the look on her face
is a happy look. Kiss me. Yeah. Lainey Boggs the look on her face is
happy look
she's not
horrified
quite the opposite
yeah
six pennies
seven pennies
six pennies
yeah
so there you go
this is insane this is a very like
just for saying there's a lot of things that just identifies this is a 90s movie yeah this is one of
the most 90s things ever you know like these first of all high school kids just drinking and living
their life having parties and stuff like that is very 90s but then the idea that you could just be
naked and nobody care that's in all that was also
survivor in the year 2000
yeah you can tell this is
really a sign of the times
the winner was frequently naked
so I'm telling you
whoever is Freddie Prince Jr. on
survivor 47 is winning this thing
gotta drop trial there you go
whips it out yeah alright
and that's she's all that.
Incredible.
By,
by way of survivor 47.
Yeah.
Uh,
which is insane that we just did that.
I do want to go and plant our flag and say that was crazy.
Uh,
had a great time.
This was a wonderful podcast.
Insane.
Yeah.
Great time.
I loved it.
Okay.
All right.
Uh,
Chappelle next on nothing but Netflix.
I'm just trying to see...
Right, is this canonical?
Are we going to do a real Nothing But Netflix episode?
No, this week's Nothing But Netflix.
Okay, because I feel like the non-Survivor
Nothing But Netflix listeners are like,
what?
Mm-hmm.
Who's baby Andy?
Is he a child?
Is he grown?
Why do they want him to get naked?
This was for everybody, okay?
All right.
Those people should go watch Survivor 47.
It's a great season. It's ridiculous. All so survivor is at least let's see uh anything else
that's uh on your uh radar for what's coming up on nothing but netflix listen we got the king of
the we know scripted rhap stuff here josh have you been keeping up with what Netflix has coming up soon?
What's coming
to Netflix? We've got some holiday
films that are already
in the mix.
Yeah, I believe
I will be talking about Meet Me Next
Christmas. Meet Me Next Christmas. Okay, that's already
number one. Yeah, that'll be a
recap kickback episode for next week for sure. By the way,
we also talked about Time Cut already.
Be sure to check that out.
Hot and Frosty
is coming to Netflix.
Frosty with an I?
No, from Survivor China.
Keep it going.
It's a Mariah Carey
special coming to Netflix.
Interesting.
Okay.
And then also, special coming to Netflix? Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Okay. So maybe it's just,
uh,
and then also,
uh,
uh,
Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson is still coming this November.
Oh,
good.
Sign of the times.
Yeah.
Have you guys done Detroiters yet?
No.
Got to do Detroiters.
Detroiters hit Netflix,
Tim Robinson,
Sam Richardson.
It's got all the I think you should leave sensibilities,
except it's dramatized.
Now, that having been said, if you want to,
Brendan Fitzpatrick, Zach Brooks,
movie ladder this thing.
The Fast and the Furious,
Too Fast, Too Furious,
The Fast and the Furious, Tokyo Drift, Furious The Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift
Fast and Furious, Fast Five
are all hitting Netflix on November 12th
I think I'm good
I've done all my Fast and Furiouses
Okay
Alright, but we'll keep you posted
I'm interested in Hot Frosty
I want to know about Hot Frosty
Hot Frosty, yeah
It's about parkour
Alright, so Josh, what's coming up for you? Lots going on here Hot Frosty. Hot Frosty? Yeah. Okay. It's about parkour. Yeah. All right.
So, Josh, what's coming up for you?
Lots going on here because, of course, we know reality TV,
but here on RHAP, we know scripted TV too, Rob Sesternino. And one of the things that we know is Severance,
the Apple TV Plus mystery series
that is returning for its second season in January of 2025,
nearly three full years after the show initially premiered,
was the show, I think, of 2022 for a lot of people,
and will be coming back January 2025.
One thing to look forward to about that month for sure.
And you don't have to wait that long because we're already talking about
severance over at,
we know TV.
I've gotten the band back together of myself,
Dr.
Amanda and Dr.
Melissa to talk about severance.
We're doing a weekly rewatch of season one.
It is spoiler light.
I said,
it is not necessarily spoiler free.
It is like informed guidance as you are
watching severance alongside us uh it's 10 uh 10 weeks of severance the first week dropped
uh already we have a preview show a kickoff show and then it's the nine episodes of season one
coming next and it'll take us right into season two so you can subscribe to the feed we know
severance.com uh we'll take you there and then a bunch of other things are happening on We Know Scripted. The Penguin has wrapped up or is wrapping up. And then Dune Prophecy is what's on the other side. It is a Dune prequel TV show on HBO. I'll be podcasting about that one with the tastemakers, Grace and Taryn. So you can get
all of that over at We Know Scripted
TV. So much more happening
over there. Check it all out.
And of course, we stand
out now.
We stand Kageyan, but we also
stand Juan del Sur, as
every week, Rob and I have been
celebrating the 10-year anniversary
week by week
of Survivor San Juan del Sur.
We're officially past
the merge, and we're
entering the first jury vote
this week.
I'm very excited about that.
Okay. All right.
Great fun here today, Josh.
Chappelle, what are you
working on?
Catch me on Recap Kickback.
Every week, Mario and I are talking about the Black
Entertainment News of the Week. Like I said, we have
that Christmas movie coming up on Netflix
as well that we'll be talking about next week.
Beauty in Black is the number one
show, or at least was the number one show
on Netflix for a very long time. I think it's fallen to number
four at this point, but it's still in the top ten.
We're talking about it with the Purple Tans badass Bryce Isaiah,
so check that out on RecapKickback.com.
Check it out now.
Exactly. On YouTube.com slash
at RecapKickback. We also have
Abbott Elementary coverage and, you know,
Josh Wiggler in spirit was available
for our The Walking Dead coverage.
It's over as well. So in spirit.
In spirit. And so we have all of that and more
on RecapKickback. Check it out now
and subscribe to the podcast,
recap,
kickback.com slash subscribe.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah,
exactly.
We should just get like a,
the acapella version,
just to play that during the plugs.
Oh my God.
Check it out.
And you'd like that.
I want,
I want that so badly for us.
Yeah.
Someone out there,
please.
All right. Thank you so much for joining us for she's out there, please. All right.
Thank you so much for joining us
for She's All That.
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