RHAP: We Know Survivor - Nothing But Netflix: She’s All That

Episode Date: November 10, 2024

In this week’s episode, Rob and Chappell watch and discuss the 1990's classic, She's All That, with special guest, Josh Wigler (@roundhoward)....

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Starting point is 00:02:10 But maybe one day we can try to watch the rest. So Rob and Chappelle, give it your best. Yes, that's right. Nothing But Netflix is back with a special edition this week. We're talking about, we've never done a Paramount Plus. We'll figure out what that is called here on this special feature talking about the film. 1999's She's All That, a topical film this week with a guy. Some say he's all that and the bag of chips it's chapelle
Starting point is 00:02:47 hey what do we call paramount plus uh joint i got i got nothing i got nothing i i didn't even i didn't watch this on paramount plus because oh would you watch this movie kind of have this movie memorized it's not even you know like so it's like this is this is a classic nothing but netflix uh because you know this is a classic, nothing but Netflix, uh, because you know, this is a classic movie. I don't know. Maybe we call it nothing but Netflix classic. Remember Turner classic movies. Maybe we just have like a, a set for just nostalgic movies. Like when we did, uh, back to the future and stuff like that. Yes. Okay. The movie he's all that is on Netflix. She's all that is on Paramount plus hence the synergy as it's referenced here in the latest episode of Survivor. And so we will get into all of that here with a very special guest, of course,
Starting point is 00:03:34 from We Know Scripted TV, Josh Wiggler. Josh, how are you? I'm doing quite well. Thank you for having me Even though Did I qualify for this podcast Because I got LASIK and removed my glasses Is that One of the many reasons It was kind of a bet
Starting point is 00:03:55 I didn't want to let you in on that too early But Rob didn't tell you this was a whole bet I bet I could get Josh Wigler That's how it started but it's it was different that's that's not why that's literally a bet that's you're an effing bet no am i a fracking no no this is that that chapelle was like like hey uh do you want to have josh on the podcast and i was like bet and and and then he took it the wrong way no i took it the right way josh i'm sorry to tell you this though so despite your glasses and your paint
Starting point is 00:04:25 covered overalls, you are here as a bet. And I won. I won the bet. You're here. Look at that. All right. Well, Chappelle, are we still going to prom together? Yeah, we got to. We got to. Sorry, Rob. You're naked at graduation. Let's just... Okay. We're going to... Chachi does have
Starting point is 00:04:42 some suggestions for a paramount. Yes. What is it? There's a couple of good ones. On the plus side? On the plus side. That's what I was going to say. Yeah. I like on the plus side.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Okay. Plus or bust? But on the plus side, there's like five. There's like too many pluses. But plus or bust? Plus or bust. Plus or bust. I think it's got to be more about the Paramount.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Oh. Oh. Yeah. They don't have a lot of real... Paramountly speaking is not that good. Paramount importance. Yeah. Yeah. I think, unfortunately, we're really looking at pluses.
Starting point is 00:05:20 There's like Apple TV Plus and... Oh, yeah. Yeah. So try this again, but emphasis on the Paramount. In the meantime, while ChatGPT is working on that for your Survivor Watch. I'm going to vote for. Sorry, that's a wrong, wrong Survivor clip that I pulled. So for Survivor fans that we are going to spoil through episode eight of Survivor 47, in case you have not watched it yet.
Starting point is 00:05:49 But a player in this Survivor season, Andy, talked about his position in the game this week. And he described it as being overlooked by some of the other people from his starting tribe. This is how he described his situation. I feel like this is by like, she's all that makeover moment. I'm starting this game just like, oh, hi, I'm Andy. Like, please like me.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I'm Syrup Sam. Like, you're the cool kids. Like, can I sit at your lunch table? And now I'm at the merge. And I'm getting a lot cooler and like i don't need to wear these freaky glasses anymore and i could be the andy that i believe myself to be i could be my full version of myself and i can turn into the pivotal player in this post-merge. So I had said to Chappelle and Josh, I said, hey, we gotta go back to 1999, just in general,
Starting point is 00:06:51 but specifically to go watch 1999's She's All That because what other things will it tell us about Andy's position, how the merge and how maybe Survivor 47 at large is going to turn out? Maybe it's all there and she's all that yeah well everyone else is there and she's all that so i feel like the odds are there's going to be something to divine there's a lot to unpack here so we've watched it we're ready to talk about
Starting point is 00:07:19 it now chapelle you and i are especially prepared to talk about that because earlier this summer on nothing but netflix and of course you could hear all of our nothing but netflix episodes go to rob's website.com slash netflix uh for that every week uh we've got great coverage of everything that's coming out on netflix that you want to hear about and we talked about a movie from one of chapelle's favorite movies of all time from right around this time frame, 2001's Not Another Teen Movie, which borrows heavily from She's All That. Yeah, that's largely why I don't think I have to watch She's All That ever again, because I know Not Another Teen Movie by heart. And it's pretty much the same movie with just added influences from other teen movies. But the connective tissue is obviously, you know, this storyline about we made a bet to make somebody prom queen but we got a beautifier because she
Starting point is 00:08:08 wears glasses and she has paint cover overalls ill that's gross right and so um andy is going through something similar he feels like his glasses and overalls are making him somebody actually can't trust the game different survivor player is paint covered but that's a totally yeah yeah not neither here nor there um but yes that's more like different movie. That's neither here nor there. Yeah, neither here nor there. But yes, Andy's- That's more like the movie Never Been Kissed, which is also parodied in Not Another Teen Movie. Right, yeah. And that lady was definitely not 45 either
Starting point is 00:08:34 in Not Another Teen Movie. Sue Barrymore. Yeah, Andy is struggling because he's like, I gotta be a part of the cool kids crowd. And this is my she's all that moment. Okay, cool. We reviewed the tape. Let's see if this is his she's all that moment okay cool we reviewed the tape let's see if this is a she's all that moment and what does that mean for eddie's game yeah all right so we can talk about all of that i ironically just another full circle thing
Starting point is 00:08:55 about this i believe that the netflix movie he's all that was covered on robin akiva need a podcast on the robin akiva need a podcast episode in which Nothing But Netflix was born. Yeah. Look at that. So we really come all the way. Whoa, really? Like that's how Nothing But Netflix happened? Yes. Yeah. I was on a plane listening to a podcast and listening to Renap and I woke up and I heard my name because I sleep on all the, all my flights. And I woke up like, I was like, wait, who's talking about me? And so I had to rewind it and Akiva was like, yeah, you could call it Nothing But Netflix or something. And I was like, wait, what is happening? I don't know. Listen,
Starting point is 00:09:31 we'll have to go back to that tape. Don't give Akiva credit for my ideas. Rewind the tape to 99. Let's go find out how it was. But yeah, I definitely was very surprised that this was coming up. Get off the plane. I sent a text like, is there something you want to tell me? And so yeah nothing but netflix was born and um i think i like all the connective tissue here there's so much do like hill is in this movie well and then
Starting point is 00:09:52 also i think then the first nothing but netflix proper that we did was talking about squid game with josh wiggler so it's all yeah it's all circle yeah so this is the perfect time to announce the series finale of nothing but netflix here with she's all that well and there's a ton of connective tissue in the cast of this movie as chapelle mentions uh dule hill of course uh star of suits which uh chapelle and i uh podcast all about also launched here on nothing but netflix let's be clear yes our first suits episode was right here on nothing but netflix okay for the ogs they remember all right uh we have kieran culkin is also here star of succession josh who who knew like who not we already doing some roman roy stuff here he's already him he's fully
Starting point is 00:10:38 formed he's making margaritas and he's like 15 14 he's making he's making margaritas and he's like 15, 14, 13. He's making margaritas and he's like spiking drinks too. Yeah. And he's like sending people off to drive after that as a prank. Like that's some Roman Roy stuff we're doing. Making people eat their pews. Yeah. Well, he didn't make anyone do that. He was complicit.
Starting point is 00:10:58 He was a junior in a very heroic moment, mind you. Yes. And then also Matthew Lillard is here and connect him back to not only is he a reality TV star in this film, he also is the star of Jeff Probst's directorial debut, Finder's Fee. He was in Finder's Fee? Matthew Lillard? I believe so. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:24 That's incredible. Also, last week we talked about Time Cut here on Nothing But Netflix, and it was a parody of Scream. And a lot of people know that Matthew Lillard was, you know, one of the characters in the Scream franchise as well. Yeah. I don't know if he's the star of Finder's Fee, but he is in Finder's's fee with an all-star cast with Ryan Reynolds, James Earl Jones, and Robert Forster. I heard Ryan Reynolds isn't that funny.
Starting point is 00:11:52 In Finder's fee or in real life? Generally. I've heard he's only attracted to men. People tell me that only men think Ryan Reynolds is hot. Women are like, eh. Yeah, that may or may not be true. Okay. I think you could pull on a lot of different strings here on Reynolds is hot. Women are like, eh. Yeah. That may or may not be true. Okay. He's all that.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I think you could pull on a lot of different strings here on She's All That, and you wouldn't have to go six degrees to land on R.H.A.P. I think that's because She's All That is as star-studded affair as you could possibly get for the year
Starting point is 00:12:23 1999. This is among the very most nineties movies you could possibly get. And what's great about it is as a 1999 movie, this is like the last gasp of the nineties as well. This is like the nineties being like, all right, let's dance it out. Things are never going to be like this again. It's a fat boy.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Ultra nins. So just a bygone era being chronicled here in She's All That. 1999, the last year without Survivor also. That's right. There you go. That's right. Not counting 20. I like it because it does feel like there's a,
Starting point is 00:13:01 like it's like the new Brat Pack of sorts. You know, like now looking back, like in the moment, it didn't have that same impact of like, look at these teen stars, these young adults that are like taking Hollywood by storm. But when you look back at these young adults, like, no, these were the next, the people who were next up, Gabrielle Union, you know, Dulé Hill, Freddie Prinze Jr. Like these people, like we did not know how big they were going to be, you know. And a lot of them have become legends in Hollywood at this point. And I think a lot of it starts here at She's All That. Okay. All right. She's All That.
Starting point is 00:13:31 The story of one high school and one special, a couple of students that are special. We meet Lainey Boggs. We talked about Janie. Was she Janie Boggs in? Janie Briggs. Janie Staney Stainpants overalls is what they call her. She's an art student
Starting point is 00:13:53 and we meet her waking up her brother for juice. Yeah, and she's going to hock a loogie in it. She was going to do it too. She's going to hock two of them in it. She was going to do it, too. She's going to do it, too. She's going to hock two of them. So Kieran Culkin is in bed, and he refuses to get out of bed. And she says, hey, get out of bed, or I'm going to hock a loogie in your juice.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And that seems like it's just a threat. But then he opens the door just as she's like, suck the spit back up. She's about to do it uh don't mess with laney boggs there are no empty threats take laney boggs at her word she's telling you the truth yeah she's a unique rebel you know she listens to bikini kill you know she's dark twisty you know she's not like the other girls so kieran calkins character, Simon Boggs, a little brother, did you feel like, is he recognizable? Yeah. All the Culkins look exactly the same.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Like, I couldn't tell you which one it was when I first saw it, but I was like, it's one of them. And I think you just have to use process of elimination. Like, Macaulay's too old for this to be him, but it could be one of those other two. Did either of you notice, is he wearing a hearing aid in the film? Okay. Is that mentioned in the plot in any way? Is that like a deleted storyline that he is hard of hearing? I think it's just a grace note on the character.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah. His IMDB or whatever said that his character was originally written to be deaf and have no lines. But the narrative was changed during the filming. So they had a thing. You're in Tolkien. Right. Okay. We can't shut him up if we try.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Okay. So I guess they already had filmed some of the scenes with the hearing aid. Like doing secret handshakes. What's up, player? It's like, okay, we just gotta leave this in. Let him talk. Lainey Boggs, played by Rachel Lee Cook.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Some say too many cooks, Josh. There's a Rachel on Survivor, and I think it's very important that as we're trying to map She's All That onto Survivor here as we're entering the jury phase of the season, that we need to chart Rachel's journey, not just as it pertains to Andy, but we should chart it as it pertains to Rachel as well. Yeah. And that's safety without power, I think, a couple of times throughout the film. Certainly.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah. All right. So she is the child of Kevin Pollack is here. I love Kevin Pollack. Yeah. What's Kevin Pollack up to now? No clue. He's a terrible father, though, I think.
Starting point is 00:16:40 You think so? Yeah, I do. Why? I think you think so. Yeah, I do. Why? So he's like,
Starting point is 00:16:47 he's single dadding it. And, uh, just very, very pass. He's a widow. He's a widow. He's a widower. I,
Starting point is 00:16:54 you know, I, with, with respect, uh, he's just allowing his daughter to run the whole house. And he's just like, sort of like fully leaning into it.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And like, he has some moments where there was like, ah, you should just be a kid and get things done. And so like, OK, that's easy enough to say. But are you then going to clean the house or are you still just going to watch TV with Kieran Culkin? He's like, well, I'm still just going to watch TV with Kieran Culkin, but I'll be rooting for you to get laid by Freddie Prinze Jr. Whoa. So it's like a lot of weird energy, I feel like, coming from
Starting point is 00:17:28 Kevin Pollak. Yeah. He says later on in the movie, hey, like, hey, I'm a businessman. I own my own business. I put food on the table. I want a team effort. I'm a pool cleaning guy, but I'm also, I'm a good guy as well. You know, he doesn't want his 17-year-old to be
Starting point is 00:17:44 the adult of the house uh even though she is you know she just is yeah he just lets it happen yeah he's not doing enough to sort of like free her from her status as the the keeper of the house yeah he's he's in mourning we have to see him still
Starting point is 00:17:59 feeling the grief okay okay so let's meet our cast of characters at the high school. Okay. Freddie Prinze Jr. is Zack Seiler. Some research on this film suggests that Freddie Prinze Jr. was to be fired. Why? During the making of this movie because he wasn't good enough.
Starting point is 00:18:22 The director thought that he was uncharismatic and not pulling his weight. So he was given some additional acting training and he came back better than ever. Wow. So the legends go about. This is Big Break? He had already been doing,
Starting point is 00:18:41 like he was in I Know What You Did Last Summer. Yes. I think Wing Commander had happened at this point. Wing Commander. Which is a video game movie adaptation that's horrible that he and Matthew Lillard were in, and so they became friends. It's always with Matthew Lillard.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And so Matthew Lillard comes here because of their friendship, I think. And then, of course, they'll go on and join the the mystery team uh and be part of the scooby gang together uh so yeah can i can i say something bold yeah is this is this although it's one of his earliest films i think this is like one of his like this is one of the most notable things he's ever done you know i got i i'm hard pressed to find the more famous property that she's all that yeah oh so he his big four on imdb uh she's all that scooby-doo i know what you did last summer and i still know what you did last summer she's all that winter i'm sorry have you guys seen i still know what you did last summer no that's the one with brandy in it huh brandy's in it brandy's in it yeah he spends like
Starting point is 00:19:46 the whole movie on a boat trying to like get to the island where the i still know what she did last summering is happening yeah and so he has a very very very boring storyline in that movie until the end that is being considered one of his top four. That's not great. But I think it's doing an injustice to, yes, as you mentioned, he has a pivotal role in the final main season of 24. He is a prolific voice actor. He has lent his voice to a notable Star Wars character in Star Wars Rebels. character in Star Wars Rebels. And he was also, he got married to Sarah Michelle Gellar. So who's laughing now? Okay. No, he definitely is a bigger celebrity than he is an actor. You know, like I feel like his name is way bigger than his filmography would suggest. Yeah. All right. Well, yeah all right well he is a big deal at the school uh zach seiler most popular guy at the school uh
Starting point is 00:20:48 his foil at the school uh dean samson detective dean uh played by paul walker rip also uh connected to rob mckeven need a podcast through our um to three fast three furious series did you miss the opportunity here to do threes all that threes all that we could watch it on 3x although i may have watched it on 3x not quite 3x for me and uh he is here also and dule hill also uh the aforementioned dule hill part of the gang of the friends, the friend group. Yeah, very happy to see him here. Because, again, this is like where we get our Nothing But Netflix start for Suit Yourself, our podcast. If you're new to Nothing But Netflix, we did a whole Suits Rewatch podcast, a daily Suits Rewatch podcast.
Starting point is 00:21:43 First watch for Rob, where we went through no spoilers at all so if you want to go check that out um you can go to uh suit yourself.com i believe right uh suits podcast.com yeah yeah go check it out i didn't realize i didn't realize he was in suits i i know he was in in psych and for me he came on late in the game yeah is he is he great on suits so So when Mike Ross leaves, he comes on with Katherine Heigl. Yeah, he's doing Dule Hill things. And then also, we see
Starting point is 00:22:14 that Zack Seiler, played by Freddie Prinze Jr., has gotten dumped. Yeah. His girlfriend is the hottest girl in school. I believe it's taylor taylor vaughn taylor and taylor vaughn yeah and one piece she's good she's going to be uh the shoe in for prom queen you know yeah yeah and what happens was that we get a retelling of it is that Taylor Vaughn was at MTV Spring Break and she ends up meeting a guy named Brock Hudson, played by Matthew Lillard, who is the star of one of a fictitious season of The Real World.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I think they say he's from The Real World Los Angeles, but he is not. They say it's season two. The second Real world Los Angeles, but he is, uh, they say it's season two, uh, second real world Los Angeles. Yeah. Uh, so he's just there. He's puck, right?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Like he's just, yeah, he's just puck. Um, yeah. Cause puck is from the real world one, right? The first one.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Yeah. Or something like that. Yeah. And so, yeah, but I see, I don't, I guess season two is definitely out,
Starting point is 00:23:24 but okay. Uh, uh and and puck i think you can also squint and connect him to uh this latest week of survivor as that he too was eating the peanut butter with his fingers yeah yeah yeah he had some some tough moments in the pinky like Jeff. Nah, Rob, you making that cocaine reference was wild and I'll never forget it as long as I live. But, uh,
Starting point is 00:23:52 wow. Yeah. I guess I didn't hear that on the podcast, but I certainly had that thought. Yeah. Um, but seeing him here, I have a lot of energy.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Jeffrey does, you know, let him cook. Let him cook. Yeah. Let him cook. Yeah. Coke islands coke islands okay and so guess what zach you're broken up with because uh taylor vaughn has met uh a new guy brock hudson and he's a star she was such a big deal in high school did y'all have any like local celebrities at your high school where people were just fawning over them because if they'd happen in my school i was not aware yeah um at
Starting point is 00:24:28 my high school uh and josh yes josh famously went to high school was was was lindsey lohan in high school like a was like had she had any degree of celebrity josh and was she an institution yeah she was she was uh she entered high school having done the parent trap I can't remember if she was still around during mean girls uh there was another girl who she was best friends with who uh had red hair and people were very mean about her. They called her stunt double. Oh, okay. No, it was just very cruel behavior. But as I've said multiple times on podcasts over the years, Lindsay Lohan was part of a group of people that threw ice cubes at people at a junior high dance,
Starting point is 00:25:18 and I got winged in the face. So I've always blamed Lindsay Lohan for that. And I have said in the past that I've dedicated my career to one day being deep enough in the entertainment industry as to take Lindsay Lohan down. But that happened on its own. And now she seems like really on the up and up and I'm rooting for her again. So that's where I'm at on the Lindsay Lohan journey at this moment. I love that. I'm rooting for her success.
Starting point is 00:25:42 There's a lot to be angry about these days and I'm not going to be angry about Lindsay Lohan anymore. I'm done with that. I'm rooting for her. There's a lot to be angry about these days, and I'm not going to be angry about Lindsay Lohan anymore. I'm done with that. We can connect her romantically to another survivor legend. And that's she was romantically involved with Ozzy. I believe that's right. Yes. Yes. So we're doing all the survivor things today.
Starting point is 00:26:02 That's it. Yeah. We've talked Lindsay Lohan a few times. If you want to keep connecting, we've talked about Lindsay Lohan a few times. If you want to keep connected, we've talked about Lindsay Lohan a few times on Nothing But Nothing. I suspect she probably has another holiday movie coming up. I wouldn't be surprised if we talk about her again in the next month or so. It's her bag.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Yeah. Okay. So meanwhile, Lainey, she's very involved with her art. Her art is very dark. i don't know i this is so interesting to me in terms of like uh would laney boggs the artist be more celebrated in 2024 than she was this is 25 years later for she's all that i don't know if we've mentioned that 1999 to 2024 uh would her with laney boggs the artist as forget the pre makeover would she be more celebrated in 2024 i don't know i don't know if she wasn't celebrated back then you know she gets this uh her work gets to the art school that she's trying to get to you
Starting point is 00:27:01 know her teacher but it's not until she has a fundamental shift oh yeah so she takes off her glasses maybe that's what it was you know maybe she didn't need the glasses you know she should have been rod dogging it the whole time uh it was dark her her art was dark and twisty her classmates basically said like why don't you kill yourself then people will respect your art even more and i'm like cool not cool that's awful yeah but she got hers yeah but then you know like you said due to transformation, her art brightened up a little bit. And then people were like, oh, this is palatable. We can do this.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And so, yeah, later on, I think you're right. Time will tell. But Lainey would be one of the artists of our day, I'm sure. Well, again, to sort of, to try and bring this to the assignment of mapping this onto,
Starting point is 00:27:43 let's say, Baby Andy, right? Because baby Andy is all that. He's Lenny Boggs. That's what we get. Baby Boggs here. So to map that, like Andy's gameplay 25 years ago, like we're kissing Borneo,
Starting point is 00:28:00 so let's call it 24 years ago. I think Andy's early gameplay gets him voted out fast in OG Survivor. 25 years greater on the other side of his initial panic, Andy's getting to the merge and his art is starting to be appreciated. Interesting. So I feel like the Andy archetype has improved with time. Let's talk about this school. And they have not only a DJ.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Usher is the DJ of the school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then Usher is still doing great. 25 years later, he's doing Super Bowl halftime show. But why does your school need a DJ?
Starting point is 00:29:03 Tell us the same thing. And Chappelle, I think that probably 90210 is not in your wheelhouse, right? halftime show but why does your school need a dj how tell us the same thing and chapelle i think that probably 90210 is not in your wheelhouse right yeah but the judge famously uh david silver was like the dj of the so i don't know in the 90s schools had a dj in the 90s schools had djs so anyone who like grew up and went to high school in the 90s knows this, that this was actually an unpaid but required role for high schools across the United States was you needed to have a DJ embedded in your program. And not just a DJ, but it would be pumped into the hallways of like, hey, students, what's going on? Good morning. And we got so much. This is like Saved by the hallways of like, hey, students, what's going on? Good morning. And we got saved by the bell.
Starting point is 00:29:47 They had KKTY, Tiger. Yeah. Yes. I was born to have that role in high school. And I got there too late. I got to high school in the 2000s. Chappelle, you are the DJ of the high school podcast known as R.A.J.P. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:30:08 You made it. You just got old. Josh, I tried to do the morning announcements at my school. I just signed up. Like, can I do the morning announcements? And they were like, he's not charismatic enough. I did the morning announcements. They wouldn't let me.
Starting point is 00:30:20 They said I wasn't charismatic enough. They told me to go get some acting chops and come back. But four years later later it was too late They didn't want to sign me Rob you did the morning announcements Yes Yeah you were the DJ at your school I guess I was as close as it came
Starting point is 00:30:35 That's cool that's a good deal That's a good deal I was not the DJ at my school I wanted to be the DJ at my school Yeah I wanted you to be the DJ at your school Do you know that this film was shot in the same high school that Beverly Hills 90210 shot in as well? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:51 As well as Buffy the Vampire Slayer, this stands in for Sunnydale, which is why Sarah Michelle Gellar makes a dialogue-free cameo in this film. Oh. Blink and you missed it. Yeah. I blinked and I missed it.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Was she dating Freddie Prinze Jr. already? You've seen this movie a million times and you didn't know? I've seen Not Another Teen Movie a million times. I've seen the same difference. She sits at a lunch table as someone sits down next to her and she's just there. She wasn't even dating Freddie Prinze yet.
Starting point is 00:31:22 They were like friends. I think. I don't know dating Freddie Prince yet. They were like friends. But I think. Yeah. I think. Yeah. I don't know. It was starting. Yeah. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:31:30 It was a long con. All right. I know what you did that summer. I still know what you did that summer. Stop it. You still knows. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So we have Zach. He is broken up with. He's like, but listen, like I'll any girl i date is gonna be popular okay and so that's when paul walker says not so fast not so fast okay so he's furious in fact and he says okay you want to make this interesting let's make our bets people okay what do we got here and then uh yeah the bet is jake cannot take a random unattractive um person and make her into prom queen and uh the most unattractive uh person who doesn't have her life together of course is laney box so does that mean that maybe uh dean is dean sam is sam like the one who's like discounting uh andy's uh greatness yeah so
Starting point is 00:32:27 okay if we're gonna map the survivor characters to this is is dean sam oh then hmm well or maybe or maybe dean is sierra because sierra is the one who falls victim to uh to what andy's uh ultimate plan is in this episode that we're talking about yeah so i guess like who is the person who makes and because that this is where the analogy that andy makes and the movie differ andy uh sort of like uh has this as uh there there is no bet in the the baby and Andy story that he tells, but he says, I showed up,
Starting point is 00:33:07 I had glasses. I wanted to sit at the cool kids table, but now I took off my glasses. I let my hair down that there, there is no bet. I wonder is Genevieve the person who sort of sees Andy sitting there and then says, Hey,
Starting point is 00:33:23 I could take this person and turn him. And he gets, because Genevieve kind of gets dumped by, she's more of the dumper when Rome leaves. And she's sort of like single of like, hey, I need a new person to be my, you know, ally. My number one is Genevieve, really, the Freddie Prinze Jr. Genevieve Prinzess Jr. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I'm here for that. Yeah, it's fine it's fine yeah yeah um but there's not really somebody uh betting again like no you can't like saul's not like no way yeah right like well you're gonna take it to the end it's not on my watch this is hard to tell all i know is that uh rome was the real world guy rome was man yeah that's that much i got that much i was able to put together so i so i think the andy storyline is less about the bet obviously and more about the transformation and i think that at that point you have to start looking at okay what does drive andy to make his big transformation is it just time is like or did he realize hey they made a bet about me you know like I think for Andy I think he's looking at the the outline of the cast and saying man they don't think I can do this now I have to let my you know I have to
Starting point is 00:34:36 transform so that I can take this to the next level in this movie lady doesn't think she can do it they're the ones who are like all right get Anna Paquin on the phone. We got to make a makeover happen. But is Genevieve like the most popular kid in school where that her association with Andy ends up making people change their opinion about him? I don't know. Is she pulling the strings here? To me, the episode just made it seem like,
Starting point is 00:35:02 you know, once Andy got the information that, you know, he was at the bottom of this alliance it was time to make his move i feel like andy has a lot more agency in this than laney box did hmm yeah see i kind of feel like uh uh like somewhere in this sam and gabe are some form of uh zach and dean and I don't know how to break it down any further than that. And maybe she's all that is not the correct movie analogy. And I feel like Kyle is like,
Starting point is 00:35:34 like who, like Kyle kind of has some semblance of Matthew Lillard energy. He's coming in here like tall, lanky, white dude, just winning challenges. he's like suddenly shown up here at the merge is like this big deal hmm yeah i i wonder i mean i know we're talking about she's all that but i wonder if there's a better movie analogy that andy could have that's what's a better what's a better transformation movie like the like uh is he a mrs doubtfire transformation movie like the like uh is he a mrs doubtfire no no no no superman right no who's the lady who becomes the glasses on takes them off yeah who's the lady who becomes
Starting point is 00:36:14 the the queen of genobia uh is that um that's um what is her name i he's, I think that's the movie we're looking for. Um, what is, uh, princess, the princess diaries. Is that it? Yeah. Right. Cause like,
Starting point is 00:36:30 she's a nerdy girl. And then they tell her like, Oh, you can be the queen of Genovia. And then she does her transformation. And then she's the new, she's the new it girl. I think they're even coming out with another princess.
Starting point is 00:36:40 That definitely tracks. If Andy wins and becomes survivor royalty. Right. But if he loses, it might be she's all that. Because not to spoil it, but somebody does not become prom queen. And it's definitely a lie. She's not going to get the crown at the end of this. Correct.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Is it more? I think that that's the difference between whether this is Princess Diaries or she's all that. Is it a sandwich or is it soup? Who knows? Yes. Chappelle, could it be more of a Stefan Urkel situation? Yeah, that too.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Back then they didn't want me. Now I'm hot, they all want me. He changed it up. Now he's the most popular guy. He has now slipped into that Vaughn role. Taylor Vaughn. Who's Laura Winslow in this scenario? this scenario is it us the audience i think we're
Starting point is 00:37:27 laura yeah i would say that listen i know rjp did not count baby andy out at episode one but i saw the tweets i saw the posts people were not high on baby andy but right now baby andy's got some runway i would love to see baby andy like let's let him cook you know i think we're in a good step baby let him rachel lee cook yeah okay all right so six weeks turn anybody into the prom queen and so uh there's probably some uh you know i don't know if this part 25 years later uh holds up so great where we go through the various women that could potentially be made into the prom queen. My feeling is any one of them could have been prom queen with the right attitude.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I mean, that's the bit, right? With the right attitude, any of them that look, you sound just like our guy, Zach here. Here comes Lainey Boggs and she falls as the ugliest woman on earth. Not her. Oh my god. She has pain on her overalls who does that foul individual
Starting point is 00:38:27 not her anybody but her they said maybe her maybe her but scary and inaccessible no way no thanks sorry her last name is Boggs as in like where she comes from you know
Starting point is 00:38:43 yeah she's radiating witchy energy we want nothing to do with that i have a better i have a better she's all that survivor story okay you want to hear it yeah certainly i'm thinking this is the story of q and banu last season because q says banu is a real he's a he's piece of work. No one's ever going to be able to work with Banu. I'm going to take him under my wing. Episode one, he does that. Yeah, he said, I got this. And he drags Banu. Jelinski
Starting point is 00:39:13 is like a Matthew Lillard type. Hey, we should have did this last season and we can get my boy Jelinski back. But yeah, I think that's what it is. Q literally said, I need to go out and make this man a survivor player. I need to go and fix Banu so that we can run the game. He tries to drag him through the season. It does not work, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:30 but it's a period. I'm just getting the image of Banu coming down the stairs with Kiss Me playing. Dick's pissing under Richard. Yes. Out on the bearded barley, Rob. You know, it's a very specific place to get somebody yeah have you ever been to a bearded barley i bet you haven't swing swing right
Starting point is 00:39:56 rob's cracking up at the bearded barley you wear those shoes and I will wear that dress. One million hearts, none the richer. Right, there you go. Okay. All right. I do think you could probably map She's All That onto every Survivor season and this might be a useful exercise at some point in time. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:17 All right. So here we go. We're seeing Brock Hudson and we're seeing some clips of his uh stint on the real world um this was fun every time they do this device yeah because it's like remember puck that because that's really what it is remember puck and yeah so no we haven't forgotten puck uh you know especially about 99 puck was still a topical name in the you know celebrity sphere you know it wasn't like now we're like which one was that again was that a real character but back then everybody knew this was put yeah this this movie
Starting point is 00:40:49 is just like filled with like uh hallmarks of the 1990s of like just like like markers that identify this as a film that was made about and in the 1990s and i think like the idea that there is like a huge important storyline involving a puck type on actual real world is just like this wouldn't be done now. No one would even know what we were talking about. People listening to this might not even know what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Why are they talking about hockey? Yeah. Why are they talking about the iconic character who gives the closing monologue in Midsummer Night's Dream? Why are they talking about that other character from Toy Story, the toy that nobody talks about. What are you looking at, your hockey puck? Ah, that's sad. So, meanwhile, it's senior year, or I guess maybe it's junior year.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I'm not sure at what point you commit to your college here. It's got to be senior year. It's got to be senior year. It's got to be senior year. Well, cause his dad is going to fit. It's the prom then. Well, that's,
Starting point is 00:41:48 that's his dad's whole storyline. It's like, so Dartmouth. And he's like, I mean, I haven't really decided. I mean, he's hiding his acceptance letters.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Tim Matheson plays dad. Yeah. Yeah. Really pushing the Dartmouth. Yeah. But he's like, I don't want your life you know
Starting point is 00:42:06 gotta be Dartmouth I don't hear a lot about Dartmouth there's another movie or show or something like that that was centered around Dartmouth and I can't remember which school or I mean which movie it was I have to think about it yeah okay where's Dartmouth beats me who's dartmouth
Starting point is 00:42:28 yeah it's in new new hampshire in hannover new hampshire dad loves dartmouth what really wants uh zach to go to dartmouth um meanwhile laney she's just trying to make ends meet at the falafel store oh man i could go for a falafel right now yeah um yeah she's asking a gentleman in the store about would he like to get his falafel combo uh supersized and he says supersize my balls yeah i want my balls supersized yeah he does say that yeah uh this is where zach comes in to try to uh ask her out uh wants to talk about her art you know what can he do to try to get her interest so uh they end up going to a the jester theater to go watch a performance art piece. Alexander Jester. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Josh, you ever go to any performance art? Yeah, I've gone to a couple things like this. Yeah. How was it? Not my favorite thing. Yeah. This is white shenanigans. I've never seen anything like this. This is not my...
Starting point is 00:43:44 Extraordinarily white. It's pale. I was sitting there like, oh. It's no white. It's like Depp's thing. It's white. Performance art happens. They end up pushing Zach to go up on the
Starting point is 00:44:02 stage. He ends up hacking Zach. Never let it drop. Never let it drop. So white. So white. I don't ever think I've seen a person of color do a hacky sack in these Americas.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Maybe worldwide, but in these Americas, no. No. Yeah. Hacky sack or pogs? You can only choose one. Pogs. Yeah, good answer. Yeah, yeah. That's not even a... Stop it. Hacky sack, please. I think can only choose one. Pogs. Yeah, good answer. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:25 That's not even a chance. Let's stop it. Hacky sack, please. I think pogs has a chance of a comeback. I don't think hacky sack has much of a chance of a comeback. No. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Now, this was only... It's definitely not in, like, a coming America. Like, I don't think anyone is hacky sacking, but I do think maybe we're doing pogs. It was only two years until Ethan Zahn was going to bring the hacky sack to national attention on Survivor Africa. The last time it was cool.
Starting point is 00:44:50 And he was literally the only person who ever made it. Oh, actually, no. So he brings a soccer ball, but he does, but he does hacky sack in the Kenyan village, right? Hacky sack is his luxury item, I believe. And he plays soccer in the village as well. Ah, I had it backwards. Soccer worldwide, hacky sack is his luxury item I believe and he plays soccer in the village as well
Starting point is 00:45:06 but not at Backwoods specifically Ethan makes sense anyway so that he ends up saying to Lainey Boggs like hey do you ever take off your glasses? You have very nice eyes she's like oh that's rich
Starting point is 00:45:22 that's rich okay she's not wrong she's not wrong that's rich that's rich okay she's not wrong she's not wrong this her that's the expense on the richer yeah yeah she's not wrong this man has never spoken to her and all of a sudden he's like you want to go on a date you got beautiful eyes like get away from me we know each other we've been in high school for four years what are you talking about why are you all of a sudden interested in me she's rightfully suspicious him, but she actually doesn't move on it. She just keeps saying like, no,
Starting point is 00:45:46 no, stop it. This can't be true. She's like, this is, what did she say? This is surrealism. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Surrealism. Yeah. They had a name for it. Surreal life, which then Jerry Manfield went to go beyond. This is just connection. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:00 All right. So she's like, I'm out. That's it. Uh, he shows up at the house and, uh, meets the brother, meets the dad, impresses them. He says he'll stay and play Sega all day if she doesn't go to the beach. She finally gives in.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And now she, too, is on the beach, much like our survivors. Mm hmm. Yeah. And she takes to it like like a duck to a buff. I don't know. I didn't have anything prepped. You got nothing. She plays volleyball well.
Starting point is 00:46:32 No, she doesn't. She plays volleyball poorly. So she's baby-andy-ing right now. Yeah. Yes. It's the beach and it doesn't go great. She's not great at the challenges. But I do think she ends up being kind of liked by some of these people at the challenges. But she like, I do think like she ends up being kind of liked
Starting point is 00:46:47 by some of these people on the beach. I think like other than Jody Lynn O'Keefe. Good social game. Yeah. Who is playing the Taylor Vaughn character. Is John Lovett here? No, John Lovett has part. John Lovett's might be in this movie somewhere.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Yeah. Hiding behind a curtain, reaping all the benefits. The key to this moment is that this is one of the times that they see Lainey not in her drabby, paint-covered clothes, right? And so when they see her in her bathing suit, they're like, wait, there's some star potential in there.
Starting point is 00:47:20 We gotta, you wanna play volleyball with us? What is this? You know, so it's like, he notices her eyes, she's like, get out of here.'s like he notices her eyes she's like get out of here they notice her body there's like get out of here you know you can't be so it's like they're slowly starting to come around to what you know we've all been seeing is that you know she's all that you know without with or without their blessing right but they're starting to see it all right julie hill is the king in this movie by the way because he's like constantly the one who's like let's include you come on this like whole thing is kind of terrible like just come on and play volleyball and then like later on he's like constantly the one who's like let's include you come on this like whole thing is kind of terrible like just come on
Starting point is 00:47:45 and play volleyball and then like later on he's gonna be like I'm not taking that bet with you Dean uh you know like Dooley Hill's a great guy in this movie yeah and we know who he voted for yeah yeah he voted he voted Rachel Lee Cook he voted Rachel Lee Cook yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:48:01 yeah all right so we get to uh an invitation to the party that's going on but you know she can't go like that uh so uh take some uh convincing from zach to get her to come to the survivor social hour uh going on later on that night and uh well she's like i can't i have to clean my house guess what soccer team iscer team is going to clean the house. This is hazing. We're going to have some JV soccer cleaners going on. I bet the JV soccer team does a horrible job cleaning the house.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Yeah, but it's not like her dad was doing any better. Yeah, he doesn't do anything. He's doing nothing. Yeah. And he's obsessed with watching Jeopardyy the show that Survivor 45's Drew Basile came on and dominated look at that more Survivor tissue here
Starting point is 00:48:52 Survivor's all that and Kieran Culkin is also eating the peanut butter disgustingly much like our Survivors did yeah he puts his fingers in peanut butter he puts his fingers in jelly then he gets a whole like a big wad of queso right yeah he's just doing like he's just eating uh hand dips and sauces and butters yeah uh maybe this kid deserves to be
Starting point is 00:49:22 bullied am i allowed to say that i'm not gonna to step up for it I'm not going to step in You know I don't want him to eat his pubes We know who he becomes He's always been into fluids Yeah Yeah Kieran Culkin was Into fluids from a very young age I've seen way too much of Kieran Culkin
Starting point is 00:49:40 And now this is getting way worse It's a lot He ain a typecast at this point. Anna Paquin shows up. Yes, the sister. Doesn't he shake Freddie Prinze Jr.'s hand with his queso hand here? The hell with the queso hand. Ew.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I didn't even notice that. I gotta watch my buddy. My dude. Alright, Anna Paquin is Zach's sister. She's here and she's going to be giving a makeover to Lainey Boggs. She's going to take her upstairs. She's got a dress for her to put on. She's going to tweeze her eyebrows.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Have you ever plucked your eyebrows before? No. No. No, but I probably should. I'm not a hairy individual. You can't see it, there is like just like a little blonde a little straight
Starting point is 00:50:27 my wife would like to she's all that me I think I think she would like to Anna Paquin me I do think maybe she'll let it happen yes yeah Jessica as your maker I command you I'm ready for the true blood recap whenever you
Starting point is 00:50:49 want at any time josh josh don't play with me oh i'm here i'm here for it don't play with me uh but this is the big difference this is the moment andy's talking about in the episode right is that he had to take down his hair he had to take off his glasses that made him. And he does this slow motion interest. That's exactly what we're getting here. The big difference is that somebody does this for Andy or for Rachel Lee Cook's character, you know, in the movie, whereas Andy is taking it upon himself to do his own slow motion interest. He hit play on the record for Six Pants, None the Richer. Yes. Yes. He had that locked and ready to go that being said if we are also trying to chart this dual track of rachel as rachel lee cook then does that make saul anna paquin uh oh he gave her okay okay a little bit of a makeover at that hour yeah yeah he said i'll be damned if y'all
Starting point is 00:51:47 vote her out now because i've done too too much work i done this makeover took so much time i tweezed i took her hair down and i took off her glasses bro give me give me more i need more now think of saul as sookie stackhouse and uh do with that what you will. Wow. Okay. Oh, so I'll stand up. I don't know. I old sookie that one. So Andy considers himself to be an honorary member of the Lavo tribe, which also wears red. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:17 For the dress. Yeah. This is kind of like a red buff. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. And so, you know, some people used to wear like the buffs like this i don't think they make them like this anymore yeah all right and so many box trips coming down the
Starting point is 00:52:29 stairs rob this is very andy yes uh she's this she's she trip on the stairs or when she finally gets out of the gets down the stairs like in none of the teen movie she like bites it on the stairs and falls through the floor well the house is trash in another teen movie because their dad sucks and so then she falls yeah all the way through the ground and then things fall on her this time she makes it all the way to the bottom she completes the entrance but then there's like a record scratch like
Starting point is 00:52:56 a little bit yeah a little bit yeah amazing moment in the film the iconic scene in the movie when iconic scene in the movie when she comes down the stairs for kiss me did we ever get any kiss me wand
Starting point is 00:53:10 offs over the years maybe maybe we will eventually it would be great for Kinsey last season Kinsey would be good for Stan Wanda or Missy get her on second
Starting point is 00:53:28 chances too we could do it again yeah let's talk about Missy for survivor 50 please Missy for 50 the big party is going on there's a lot of shenanigans here at the big
Starting point is 00:53:44 high school rager Chappelle. There was the girl who was from the art class that said that Lainey Boggs should kill herself so her art is more valuable. She is puking. She is praying to the porcelain gods, as
Starting point is 00:54:00 they say. So that's Clea Duvall is the name of this actress she's been in a ton of stuff uh has a great small role on better call saul just like a ton of stuff heroes like a million things in this movie her character's name is wait for it misty yes it's right there yeah it's all here she's right there um yeah she says like it must suck for you right what is she saying like how does it feel it's like oh like what is she gonna reveal something like that i'm that i'm rich and you're cleaning up my puke i'm a rich girl with a rich girl like
Starting point is 00:54:38 me with a scholarship and you're cleaning up my puke it's like i think this is rachel lee cook's joker moment as she turns misty into the joker yes now this would be after andy's transformation is this what we're going to be seeing next episode it's like he's transformed but somebody's trying to humble him you know whether it's misty or you know uh how does it feel, Andy? Right. I think we're going to be on the jury. Andy's red dress. I think we saw this. I think this is what he did to Ciara.
Starting point is 00:55:14 No, this is what he did to Annika. Okay, so it's just Andy. It's not a chronological order, but it's still the Andy-ness here. This is when Annika thought she was headed to the merge. And she's like, how does it feel, Andy? I'm a rich girl. I'm a rich girl about to make the merge.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And he's like, see this? This is your headstone. Wow. And he's got a Joker face on it. Who's going to spill a drink on Andy's dress, on his red buff? Hmm. Sam. Oopsie.
Starting point is 00:55:48 That's going to stain. Like, who's going to do that? Yeah. You're not going to cry, are you? Right. And Andy's like, I never let them see you cry, Andy. Never let them see you cry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:00 This is fun. It's done so much more fun in not another teen movie. So much better. It's so much better. It's been a much more fun in not another teen movie. Do you have a long time? So in this movie, OK, she's wearing they don't really say that she's wearing a very similar dress to Taylor. Yeah. So it's it's more implied than it's mentioned in dialogue here. And she ends up like spilling a drink i'm like oops be careful with silk in um not another teen movie laney boggs i think is drunk uh ends up jumping into allow me rob yes she's drunk on a non-alcoholic beer yes she jumps off of the balcony into the pool gets out soaking
Starting point is 00:56:39 wet and then priscilla the hot girl walks up to her and spills a bottle of water on her already water-drenched clothes and says, Oopsie, that's going to stain. And then she says, What are you going to cry now? And then Janie Briggs runs one way and then has to run the opposite way right before a slow clap starts. Then Melissa Joan Hart then stops. Wow. Fantastic. I've seen the movie a billion times.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Let Chappelle Rachel Lee cook. Let me cook. Let me coke. All right. Lady Boggs is going to go home. Meanwhile, but the next day at school, somehow gets nominated for prom queen. Who did this?
Starting point is 00:57:15 Who was the one who did it? I think this is the star turn, right? Like we saw her kind of get bullied, but we also saw her have the big moment with the Joker face lady. And so people were like, wait a minute. She took minute she took off those glasses yeah wearing the paint no more yeah maybe i have something here she's being talked about right like i think like you leave that party and like i think that there are a lot of people who are probably like wow did she just get a fishy yeah laney more
Starting point is 00:57:42 like laney me and then there are other people who are like mother like looking at laney pogs so like you've got like at least half of that party like on it like we're filling her in she's gonna represent us she is our champion okay but but but are we the are we the people who are nominating uh laney right because yeah now you know we've watched this episode of survivor we saw andy's big move we've seen andy make a couple big moves in this game so far are we now thinking does he have any win equity are we looking at absolutely yeah you can put andy in the prom court i don't know that he's gonna be prom king uh but i think yeah let's see what happens. It's giving Rob
Starting point is 00:58:26 goddess right now, and I don't like it. I need baby Andy to pack this one up. Go ahead and take it all the way. A Survivor 47 prom court right now? I mean, yes. I think it's not that hard, I think, right now. I feel like
Starting point is 00:58:40 Rachel's in prom court. I think Genevieve is in prom court right think i think genevieve is in prom court right now i think bing b andy is in prom court i think saul is in prom court you don't think sam's gonna make the prom court he looks like a prom court guy you there's no way he wasn't nominated for probably kind of underdoggy so i think like he's got like he's got some prom court uh like he could be like sort of like in the prom court and seems like he would be a normal frontrunner, but he's been a little humbled. Yeah, he's Dean.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Epic Dean. And not the one from Rugrats, Josh. No, no. Okay. All right. So Taylor, she's got the whole women's alliance. They all get their beepers beeping. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:59:28 Brock Hudson broke up with her. He left to go for all-star road rules. Yeah. He wanted to do the challenge. Oh, road rules. All-star road rules. Road rules was happening in 99. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:39 It was. Yeah. Yeah. I liked road rules. We don't do that anymore. No. No. No more road rules. It's been gone for a while. Road rules could get rebooted. I liked road rules. We don't do that anymore, no? No. No more road rules. It's been gone for a while.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Road rules could get rebooted. I would be down. I would be here for a road rules reboot. Are RVs still a thing? Yeah. We could bring them back if they're not. They're still a thing. Do road rules in an ERV so it's environmentally friendly.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Yeah. Not as exciting, I Yeah. Not as exciting, I think. Not as exciting. Not as fun. Yeah. So... Sorry. I mean, someone's still got to champion this stuff. Okay. Someone's got to take the road rules. We get our big soccer game, and the guys are going to play some soccer
Starting point is 01:00:20 and then get to the locker room, and there's a little bit of, you know... Locker room talk a little bit of locker room talk. Paul Walker is like, hey, Laney Box is looking good. Yeah. Paul Walker snaps,
Starting point is 01:00:37 I feel like. This feels like Paul Wachter. Yeah. Paul Wachter is here this is a real millennial joint by the way yeah yeah yeah uh paul walker versus paul walker yeah walker one uh but paul walker is here being like always hated you freddie prince j. You always got the cool stuff. Everyone always liked you. Well, I'm going to show the world what kind of an a-hole you are.
Starting point is 01:01:10 And like, I'm just watching this being like, what are you? My man. It's you. You're the a-hole. Dean. Not a Dean guy. With respect to the late great okay he's just he's acting
Starting point is 01:01:28 he's acting yeah he's way better acting than what's going going in the fast and the furious seas i will never forgive him yeah all right so meanwhile all right too fast too furious is a hard watch. Awful. Zach is going to go back to Lainey and visit her in her basement in the art studio. And she's he's trying to talk to her about what's going on. And she's she instead starts reading him for filth. Yeah. But she's got a lot going on, right? she instead starts reading him for filth. Yeah. Um, but she's got a lot going on, right?
Starting point is 01:02:07 Like she, this is where he finds out about her mom having cancer. And as you know, she's, she's got to work for things. He's like, I got to work for stuff too. You don't know how hard it is being me.
Starting point is 01:02:15 My dad wants me to go to Dartmouth. She's like, okay. He's like, and he's always wanting me to go to Dartmouth. And matter of fact, everybody knows I'm going to Dartmouth. Everybody like it's a rich,
Starting point is 01:02:23 expensive school that everybody can't get into. And I have to get into these. Do you know the pressure of that? She's like. This is how I knew that we were doing. It was destiny that we were supposed to be here talking about this movie because that we see where Lainey Boggs says, oh, you want me to feel bad for you? Oh, you could do anything.
Starting point is 01:02:45 You could go to Dartmouth. You could go to Harvard. You could. You could go to Borneo. Do you realize how lucky you are? You can go to Dartmouth. You can go to NYU. You can go to Borneo and study squid fishing.
Starting point is 01:02:56 The point is you're 18 and that's old enough to start making your own choices. Maybe. Is he about to go to Borneo in this alternate universe? In this alternate timeline? Yeah, lift up the shirt. Show us the nipple ring because this is Dr. Sean Kniff taking the spot. Is he about to take
Starting point is 01:03:15 Dr. Sean's spot? Let me see that Super Bowl. Is he going to take Dirk's spot? No, this is Dr. Sean. This is Dr. Sean. Flashing the Super Bowl on Maine. Yeah. Who'd go to Borneo and go squid fishing?
Starting point is 01:03:29 This is the first time Borneo was said on national television. Is this an origin story? He's also, we discover, is a nudist at the end of this movie. That's what I'm saying. He lost the bet. Yeah, he lost the bet. He lost the bet. Yeah. Borneo is a crazy name Like a crazy drop
Starting point is 01:03:45 For us to be talking About this on the podcast Like that is wild In 1999 They had the spoilers Yeah They knew Yeah
Starting point is 01:03:51 Okay Like 25 years greater Alright So he ends up Leaving her She wants to be kissed And he ends up Walking away
Starting point is 01:03:58 And she doesn't even say Kiss me At that moment Yeah Well Yeah She's pretty close To being kissed she's ready to be kissed i've just took his glasses off and squinted at the camera but he runs away is this just that
Starting point is 01:04:12 he's like oh i gotta like make this i can't kiss her under false pretenses i need to make this right he's starting to feel bad which i don't feel like baby andy's gonna do i don't feel like Baby Andy's going to do. I don't think Baby Andy's going to feel all that bad about any of this stuff. But Baby Andy is not the Freddie Prinze Jr. character. Oh, right. So who is he waiting to be kissed by? Is he getting a kiss on the other side of all this? Yeah, I think he's transformed. I think he's gone from the Rachel Lee Cook cook character to now he is the freddie prince
Starting point is 01:04:45 junior character like he's now the hot guy they just don't know it yet they haven't seen there's glasses and stuff are off they don't know this is the risk this is the risk you uh you either dye uh hair up glasses on rachel lee cook or you live long enough to see yourself become i guess freddie prince junior like you don't get to just yourself become, I guess, Freddie Prince Jr. Like you don't get to just stay at the Rachel Lee Cook. Right. Right. Because would people vote for the Rachel Lee Cook with the glasses on?
Starting point is 01:05:13 Right. Like is that enough? They vote close. Yeah. The closest race of all time. They said it was close. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:21 They did say. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll get there we'll get there all right so we were there yeah we were there uh he runs off uh he has like a nightmare dream sequence about being in the real world and everybody's laughing at him great scene great scene i've definitely dreamt about being on the real world before this is not yeah yeah this is like i have this dream uh at least once a week uh except i'm
Starting point is 01:05:46 back out in fiji and i'm being like like i've been lured out under false pretenses to be like uh sabotaged uh so like i have like i have like the reality tv nightmare every week for sure uh here is having a vivid one he's all in one okay jeff proff is high-fiving Batman Wagner like, ha, I won the bet. Investigating his Rachel Lee coke. Back at school, we get an amazing rap sequence
Starting point is 01:06:17 summarizing where we're at in the movie. These black folks, the regular barred minstrels here in this movie. Because they had to rap and tell everybody that she's all that. They said the thing.
Starting point is 01:06:33 I pointed. I definitely pointed. You got to. All right. Josh, there is a harrowing sequence. She's all that rap? She's all that rap. Oh, you know, that could have also been a wand off probably right that's what i'm saying i'm trying to see if lyrics.com has it all right you ready
Starting point is 01:06:51 i've got it do it uh between two girls which one we gonna pick i'd rather pick laney because taylor beats all shit that was season 46 with charlie used to talk about taylor all the time yeah i'm trying to see like what else do they say it really is just a recap of the film that was season 46 with Charlie used to talk about Taylor all the time I'm trying to see like what else do they say it really is just a recap of the film it's like for anyone who like in the theater joining us had gotten up to pee
Starting point is 01:07:14 or something like in a different movie yeah yeah yeah in case you just wanted to get in on like the last third of the film here's what happened so far your movies maybe should have like mid movie recaps yeah it's very shakespearean right because um isn't she's all that uh just like taming of the shrew right yeah yes yeah so i think that's what they were probably hinting at yeah yeah oh that's why they have a puck character in here too oh yeah oh yeah yeah okay uh there's Oh. Yeah. It's all Shakespeare. Yeah. Okay. There's a harrowing sequence
Starting point is 01:07:46 that happens now, though. Okay, so we see, again, I don't really understand what the grades are at this school, but Kieran Culkin is here at the high school. Is he a freshman in high school? He's kind of young.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Yeah. Maybe it's one of those high schools that starts a little early. He's going up to all the tables and asking all the students if they want fresh ground pepper on their lunch. Which is insane. Is he being hazed? Is he being, no seriously,
Starting point is 01:08:17 is he being hazed? Uh huh. Why is there people allowing him to do that? This is like Lisa sprinkling the glitter on people's food on big brother. You can't just touch my food. guess what now there's the two kids here that are gonna start bullying now my question is did freddie prince jr put these two bullies up to harassing laney boggs's brother on a specific day no no okay this was very all very convenient the timing of everything well not only is the timing it's like if sam showed up and was like all right everybody leave baby andy alone i know you you eat your pubes now you eat your pubes too and i was like and they're like yes sir yes yes zach thank you like hoover it yeah what does that mean like a vacuum you know
Starting point is 01:09:16 i wasn't paying such close attention to the movie at the point that this starts unfolding and so watching it happen uh with uh having like just like looked away from the screen for a little while uh was a very alarming experience i didn't realize that he it was a pizza initially i was like is he putting pubes on a chicken parmesan like what's happening over here but yeah it's this it's the it's the, it's the, this is like the redheaded bully from a lot of like 90s movies. And I'm trying to, yeah, what is he, what else is he from, this kid? He's in American Pie for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Redhead guy. What is his name? Got him. Blocked him. Chris Owen is the name of the actor. He's an icon. Okay. Let's just say that.
Starting point is 01:10:04 He is an icon. He's just say that he is an icon he's 44 currently that's the shermanator that's the sherman okay yes yes yes shermanator thank you god uh if that had gone uncommented upon i think that would have been really bad by us uh the shermanator uh puts his pubes on not a chicken parmesan, but a cafeteria pizza. And then Freddie Prinze Jr. comes in. We were talking about Stifler last week over on Final Destination. As you should have been.
Starting point is 01:10:35 He saves, how much Final Destination have you watched? Only one. Just the final. I've seen most, I've seen all of them, I believe. Chappelle really knows a lot about it if you thought that that was good about not another teen movie then he's got it for Final Destination 2 you flatter me I actually did misspeak on this one
Starting point is 01:10:52 though it's not she thought that is not taking this true that's 10 things I hate about you she's all that this is the screenplay by M. Night Shyamalan which is I know wow a twist and you know what else has a lot of twists? Got it.
Starting point is 01:11:09 The new era. Josh, is this the Survivor auction? Because Jeff Probst is like, hey, I know you don't eat pubes, but you just paid $300 for it. First person to get the pubes down gets to win a big breakfast. Well, the good news is, Kyle, there's dairy on here.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Yeah. I mean, this is a hate crime. This is a garbage. Yeah. In case anybody didn't watch the movie, these two bullies come in, and then in addition to, like, bullying Kieran Culkin, and now this might be something in succession, Kieran Culkin may,
Starting point is 01:11:52 this is where he gets the ideas for these things. This kid, like, ends up putting his pubic hair onto And he, like, he, like, pinches them out, I think. Yeah, was he
Starting point is 01:12:07 keeping them there? Did he pluck... I'm so sorry to get this graphic, but it's like a thumb and four fingers worth of like a... You know what this looks like? Chappelle, you know when they do the final four fire making? Yes. Oh, and they're like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:24 you gotta get your tendons. That's like what you Yes. Oh, and they're like, yeah, you got to get your tender. That's what you need. Hey, life hack for the future survivors. Okay. Yeah. Use the pubes. If the leaves and stuff are too wet, you know, you got to have something. Sorry for you. I took your flint. Hey, don't worry. We got back
Starting point is 01:12:40 up. That's fine. You can have it. We've got a redhead right here. You can have it. That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. You can have it. We've got a redhead right here. You can have it. That's fine. Famously. The sheer force of will that must exist within the Shermanator to pull that off
Starting point is 01:12:56 literally. Good God. It's a significant amount of pubic hair that he has just yanked Off of his body And then what were they going to do? Were they going to force Kieran Culkin to eat the pizza?
Starting point is 01:13:11 Or were they just Basically going to just Wait for him No they didn't do It was not like there was no camouflage So no reasonable person was going to Eat that without Well no they distracted
Starting point is 01:13:25 him they did they distracted him and while but eventually he was going to put his eyes on the pizza and be like oh what is this a mountain of pubes on my pizza like he would have known for sure easily identified as pubes or you're like just oh there's hair in my food maybe this is why baby andy wanted no money for the auction yeah right they say the survivor pizza legendarily not good also well josh always said he would try the survivor pizza listen yeah well but yes so chapelle i had said yesterday when uh we were gonna be getting ready to do this i was like you know what maybe this might be a fun movie maybe i'll watch this with my kids maybe yeah and then i got a
Starting point is 01:14:05 message from josh wiggler like like i was watching first like it was like my beeper was going off like beep beep beep beep 9-1-1 tag like don't don't watch the movie with your kids a ginger puts his pubes on the pizza yeah oh that was your you reached in your bag and saw a scroll from josh wiggler and said like listen yeah this. I had the safety without power out of the Paramount Plus app. You know what? And in our continued interrogation of this film, now that we're talking about it, I think that I was a very good friend to you in that moment. I don't think and I think I was a responsible adult for Dominic and Anthony. I don't think that they should have put eyes on this.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Yeah, I think that it might've been just like over my kid's head though. I was like, meanwhile, I watched this movie in the 90s as well. There was a lot of cursing though in the movie. Yeah, they dropped the F-bomb. I was surprised. Yeah, it wasn't as wholesome as I remember.
Starting point is 01:15:00 It's not a wholesome film. Like within 10 minutes, it's an unwholesome, within like the first few minutes of the film, it's an unwholesome film like within 10 minutes is an unwholesome within like the first few minutes of the film it's an unwholesome film yeah yeah how can that loogie earlier the day rob was like i think i'm gonna watch this with the kids like all right well i'll watch it first all right do that paul walker uh he's gonna show up and he's asking laney out he's shows up at falafel are we gonna yada yada past the part that Freddie Prinze Jr. then publicly makes the bullies
Starting point is 01:15:28 eat the pube? I thought we kind of got to it. I was like, it was implied. He's hailed as a hero. Like everyone's watching. Even Rachel Lee Cook watches it from afar and she's kind of just like worse for the friend, I think, than the person whose actual pubes
Starting point is 01:15:44 they were. I don't know if that changes anything i don't think it's like your own pubes are more palatable than someone else's pubes i think pubes is pubes yeah put this on the next renap census uh are pubes pubes yes or no hmm is that one of the 275 questions no that wasn't the census that wasn't one of the that wasn't one of the would you rather you eat your own pubes or your friend's pubes? I think you would rather. On a pizza. On a pizza is an important qualifier.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Yeah, on a pizza. Yeah, I think he's Jeff Probst in this moment. I think he's like, hey, this is the auction. You bought this. Now eat it. Yeah, but one way in which this differs from the auction is there's some sharing of food. Right. You got to share this with somebody. You have to share this
Starting point is 01:16:30 with your friend. Okay. This is like okay, pick two people to come up here and eat all the chocolate peanut butter you can in a minute. Eat all the chocolate peanut butter. Exactly. Like you have to. Paul Walker You never have to talk about pubes on a podcast again. We're good. I won't make that promise.
Starting point is 01:16:45 Paul Walker, he's going to ask out Laney. He says, oh, did Zach already ask you out to the prom? Yeah, he's bold. He's bold. He has no connection to her at all. And now he's like, so I always liked you. Do you want to go to the prom? She's like, no, hell no.
Starting point is 01:17:01 He's like, okay, well, just don't let Zach hurt your feelings. Bye. Is this A, he just really wants to win the bet? she's like no hell no he's like okay well just don't let zach hurt your feelings is this a uh he just really wants to win the bet b uh he's trying to uh humiliate zach c he uh has this hotel room plan that he's uh that thinks that he's going to be able to uh score with laney boggs thinks that he's going to be able to score with Laney Boggs. D all the above. He's going to
Starting point is 01:17:28 score tonight. I think that there is there's a darkness to Dean. Yeah. All of it. That guy sucks. I think that there's like an untapped if she's all that was remade
Starting point is 01:17:44 as a Netflix limited series. Yeahpped if she's all that was remade as a netflix limited series yeah not he's there's a dean episode for sure and like in the dean episode you find out about the pressures on him it's like euphoria yeah yeah we dive deep into dean's and like yeah why is he like this so like nothing that justifies Dean, but I think enough content that explains him. Who broke you, Dean? I don't think we get enough of an explanation of Dean in this movie, but Dean does strike me as a character with some unexplored depth.
Starting point is 01:18:18 I think we could have gone deeper on Dean. Because there's times where he like shows up at the house at the part of the prime he's like well i showed up that's gotta count for something and there's like something broken in dean that brings him there i'm glad you mentioned that because for me and i don't know if i've ever mentioned this on my podcast but paul walker has always been a villainous character to me because of this uh like you know how you have that one role that's just like you never shake that role. For me, like Macaulay Culkin is always the good son. Like it'll never be Home Alone like it's for other people. But for me, it's always the good son.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And so like for me, Paul Walker was always this role. So seeing him in other stuff, I think Joyride. Like I'm always like, he's kind of sucks, right? Like this guy kind of sucks. I was wrong about a lot of the other roles, obviously. But it's like it's really hard to shake that one that imprints on you this was the one totally okay percent all right so we see uh zach and dad uh this is really the end of that storyline the uh i don't want your life you know you can't fix your mistakes so you don't want your life yeah i don't know if there's a survivor parallel here with the storyline of zach and his dad
Starting point is 01:19:33 is there blood versus water is it in the blood is it in the blood is dartmouth in the blood is dartmouth in the blood? Shot in the Dartmouth? Yeah. Okay. So, Taylor, she's going to go to the prom with Zach. And this is when Paul Walker reveals the bet. Am I a bet? Yeah. He just kind of blurts it out. He says, hey, just, you know, like, I I mean I know you want to go with him but it's probably
Starting point is 01:20:05 just because of that bet wait bet what bet should he have put a bet get out of here Dean so that's that's preposterous it made more sense than what everything happened prior to this forward-looking could this be a little bit of a preview of
Starting point is 01:20:21 Sam with no F's left to give, uh, Sierra gone. Uh, is he just going to go out there and, uh, like,
Starting point is 01:20:34 uh, drop bombs? Like, Oh, it's just a bet. Like, what does he have that he could do? What does he have to drop?
Starting point is 01:20:40 Like, Oh yeah. Andy, didn't you say that you were gun got the strong you couldn't wait to vote out everybody from tuku and lavo right it was like what got a strong you didn't say that what are you talking about say i was like yeah i got you um yeah you have to do something you know i think this is the moment where yeah we're at the the part of the ball he has to make a move yeah i think he needs to i mean move. Yeah. He needs to.
Starting point is 01:21:07 I mean, I think he's in that spot right now, right? Yeah. Yeah. If Andy is downtrodden, who's doing it? It's Paul Walker, you know? And so I think Sam would be Paul Walker at this point in the movie. Yeah. And then here comes Taylor to pile on,
Starting point is 01:21:22 just coming out of nowhere with the steel chair to add in on Laney. Oh, Laney, you didn't think that you became popular for real did you what are you gonna cry now yeah you know she didn't even know about the same no she heard about here to do that to andy luckily i think no sierra from the jury yes oh yeah i'm the jury yeah well that that i mean that does lead us to what we're about to get into, which is the votes. You know, at the end of the season, Andy, does this burn? You know, Ciara, the mayor of Ponderosa, sitting out there waiting on her chance to dunk on you at the final tribal council. And I believe that it was in the hit documentary featuring two of the podcasters on this panel. Featuring two of the podcasters on this panel, I, Stan Cagayan, in which Chaos Cast says, the lesson that I learned, cast me.
Starting point is 01:22:14 The lesson that Chaos Cast learned was you want to put the first person on the jury you want to put on in as clean a way as possible with as little blood on your hands as possible baby andy has violated that rule yeah he's like that's gone covered in blood he's covered in sierra yeah yeah yeah a different story a story of a different prom all together yep right okay all right so zach keeps calling the phone uh kieran culkin hangs up says wrong number a-hole a-hole yeah yeah got him there so we're going to the prom laney's gonna go to the prom. Lainey's going to go to the prom with Paul Walker and Zach is forced to go with Taylor to the prom. Big
Starting point is 01:23:08 song, dance, choreography number. Not since the Mecca on Survivor have we seen anything like this. Easily one of the best dance numbers in a high school movie. I mean, they killed it. I'm calling it the next thing Survivor needs to bring back is the Mecca.
Starting point is 01:23:26 We're in Fiji, y'all. Been in Fiji. They don't even talk about it anymore. If they didn't brought back the Meke in 400 years and we haven't brought the Meke back? It would be unanimously like Survivor approval ratings through the roof. I do think once upon a time when I had some
Starting point is 01:23:41 ears to bend, I think I was like pushing this. I was like, you guys got to bring Mejia back. I'm not going to do that. I think the Fijians said no. I think they said, okay, you can use Fiji for as long as you want. Just don't mention us. Leave us out of it. I don't want to be a part of it anymore.
Starting point is 01:23:57 You know, I think that's really what it is. Because you know, the survivor never says it. Like, we're in Fiji. Nope, they're just like, all right, it's the new era. Why? Because they're contractually obligated to leave fiji the hell alone yeah yeah i think out of their mouth yeah right yeah okay so but they do the mecca here this is an iconic dance it's the best dance sequence in any high school movie in the past yeah fat boy slim rock and roll gang R.I.P. right about now
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Starting point is 01:25:37 There's some stuff to unpack here that I think is important. Yes. So immediately previous to this scene, Eldon Hanson, who plays Rachel Lee Cook's best friend in this movie, AKA, what is his name in Mighty Ducks? I'm forgetting, but he's the bash brother.
Starting point is 01:25:55 One of them. And him and Anna Paquin hit it off instantly. And there's clearly like immediate sparks between the two of them. Yes. Fulton Reed. Yes. Sorry, that was going to bother me.
Starting point is 01:26:09 That was going to bother me. Thank you. Fulton Reed and Anna Paquin are hitting it off. So many sparks. Keep it away from certain hair. Yeah. He's like, he's crushing like a huge plate of food, I believe, when Anna Paquin comes over.
Starting point is 01:26:24 And so then we cut to the scene where Paul Walker is bragging about how he's got the hotel room booked. And he leaves and everybody leaves and he's openly bragging, even says like the room number, like he's giving out key information. Lurking in the bathroom stall.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Yes. On prom night taking a very clear prom night dump in between macking it to anna paquin is fulton reed yeah and so the prep like the the pivotal remainder of this movie of freddie prince jr like being like fired up to stop dean from sleeping with laney under false pretense emanates from fulton reed really had to go yeah and like if he like and so like a number two becomes a very important part can i also add that right before that, we get the reveal of Eldon Henson's character's name. What's your name? His name is Jesse Jackson.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Jesse Jackson. Yeah. The Reverend. Which was an interesting choice. We're going to name this character Jesse Jackson. Well, if he was on Survivor Redemption Island and he was in stealth r us we know what his nickname would have been yeah i will call you the reverend yes yeah yeah jesse
Starting point is 01:27:52 jackson's my frat brother okay to the bros but yeah and so yeah paul walker is like really bragging about of room 409 uh he claims he spent $300 on this hotel room, which in 1999, this is insane. That's like a million bucks, right? Insane. Insane. Like, let's just call it what it is. That's a lot of money. What a total Survivor Prize winning. Book a suite?
Starting point is 01:28:18 Yeah. Look at the four seasons. Yeah, not total landscaping. Yeah, exactly. The real one. The real one. The real one. The money one. Anyway, so he has this crucial piece of information. We named the prom king. We named the prom queen.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Zach Seiler, 1999 prom king. And Taylor Vaughn, 1999 prom queen. They say it's the closest vote they've ever had. They said it was very close, but it was like eight or nine points. It was kind of a landslide. It unfortunately was not close. Yeah, you know. Time will tell, really. Maybe they still count in the votes. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:28:55 It's possible that there are some votes for Rachel Leigh Cook that have yet to appear. But Lainey had already conceded. She's gone. She's rushing out because Dean is like, hey, you want to get a room? Now this is wild because but lenny had already conceded she's gone you know she's she's rushing out because you know um dean is like hey you want to get a room now this is wild because you know we see that zach and um and his ex-girlfriend are the prom king and queen as everybody um you know thought would happen but
Starting point is 01:29:17 now he doesn't have time to celebrate because he's got the news from jesse that there's a hotel room thing going down and he has to rush off and 409 he gets the room 409 and he starts calling like hotel beverly hills hotel hey do you have somebody in room 409 um like how could you ever find the person you you maybe you could look what hotel has four floors but he's out of there trying to find uh's in room 409. And I don't, he somehow then just goes to her house. And what was your plan? This is my question. He was going to wait until she left the hotel.
Starting point is 01:29:55 So like, you were going to, you were going to wait there so that you could be there. Like, I know what you did. Oh yeah. I know what you did. I still know.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Like, what was your plan? she shows up the next day he's sitting in a dark room with his chair turned around turns on the lamp yeah like fancy seeing you here lady what was your plan he's like in my home
Starting point is 01:30:22 your brother let me in. We were playing Sega. Also, so yeah, when she comes home, she initially sees Kevin Pollak and Kieran Culkin on the couch watching TV. And also, that's what we're seeing. And then she comes home and rounds the corner and Freddie Prinze Jr. is standing there in the corner
Starting point is 01:30:42 with his hands clasped. Kevin James. Yeah, it really is like the Kevin James meme is what he looked like. And what was the deal? How did he explain any of this to Kevin Pollak? And then what did Kevin Pollak say? Like, all right, you could stay, but stand in that corner. Or was it like, okay, there's headlights. Freddie Prinze, go to that corner.
Starting point is 01:31:05 So it's a big dramatic reveal. Yeah. Like the choreographing of this, the staging of this is remarkable. Yeah. Do you think he told the dad, like, by the way, Laney is at a hotel with Paul Walker. You don't know when he tells the group 409.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Right? In the greater Los Angeles area. There's only one that cost $300. So I can point you to the right one. That's a good detail actually. That could have helped narrow some things down. In the fervor, I think
Starting point is 01:31:37 he just gave up and went home. Kevin Pollak is like, look, I gotta go to bed. I don't care what you do. Just go in the backyard. You crazy kids. Take it outside Get by the pool But he's watching from the window, isn't he? Well, he had to set up, he's behind the scenes
Starting point is 01:31:54 He's now production, he's setting up the lighting Yeah, the backyard is very, you know, photogenic I feel like this is weird behavior from the father I just think we've already outlawed him. He sucks. He's just like very, this is very odd. Yeah. A little overly involved.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Like more cleaning, you know, like if you want to be involved in my life, clean the house. Yeah. Right. Don't worry about my life. Don't worry about this. And he lets anybody in the house. By the way, he did let Dean in earlier. He was like, whatever. He let the way he did let dean in earlier he was like whatever he let the whole jv soccer team in yeah right he does not care he has like no uh danger
Starting point is 01:32:31 sense at all uh like blindly blissfully walking he's also for a guy who is obsessed with jeopardy also surprisingly bad at jeopardy horrible at it the jv soccer team creamed him earlier in the movie yeah um so the movie uh we get this uh last moment with uh laney and with uh freddie prince jr and uh he says hey uh can i have the last dance he says no this is iconic speech he said that's a different movie you can have the first yeah iconic speech he said i made that bet before i knew you before i knew me and you could see her just kind of knees buckle because that's all he needed to hear this is this is a final tribal council speech okay this is how you do it yeah take notes pay attention yeah get real close up on them and then you know lower your tone
Starting point is 01:33:22 just a little bit and whisper like i made that bet i voted sierra out before i knew you before i really knew me and then just lean into it i think you got it baby andy yeah i think the real the real thing to take away from this as we're trying to apply it to survivor 47 is that it is not r Lee cook, who is the winner. It is Freddie Prince jr. Who wins. She's all that ultimately. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:49 So it does behoove us to identify the Freddie Prince jr. Of survivor 47. And I'm not saying we need to do that now, but in the weeks ahead for all of us to remember the lessons learned from she's all that. And as we continue forward, which one of these guys is Zach Seiler? Yeah. to remember the lessons learned from She's All That. And as we continue forward, which one of these guys is Zack Seiler?
Starting point is 01:34:08 Yeah. Because that person, he has a growth arc. That person got it. Yeah. That person has a final tribal speech banked. Yeah. I do think that a lot of the narrative about Zack Seiler's character in the movie
Starting point is 01:34:23 is a lot of sort of like the ethos of Survivor of like my dad wanted to be this and I didn't want to repeat the same life that my dad had. So I got out of my comfort zone and I ended up making a decision that wasn't what my family approved on, but I did it for me.
Starting point is 01:34:42 I did what was best for me and I finally have figured myself out he's monica and that's why i'm ready to win the prize laney boss freddie prince jr yes yes neat lady and then we see you know he has to you know a lannister and a prince always pays their debt and so he shows up to graduation and i don't remember these stakes exactly but uh i guess he said they didn't tell us what the stakes were uh and so we get to graduation day and here we call all the all of the uh you know youngsters to go and get their diploma i i do think that in 2024 this is prosecuted as a sex crime oh
Starting point is 01:35:27 yeah this is this is this he is going to be a sex offender 2025. yeah but here uh that we see that he stands up at graduation in you, his birthday suit. Yeah, in the buff. In the buff. In the buff, yeah. Holding only a soccer ball and then And then? Gets rid of the soccer ball.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Yeah. Fully naked. Mm-hmm. And Super pole on main. Super pole on main. And I have to say Besides my balls.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Lainey Boggs, the look on her face is a happy look. Kiss me. Yeah. Lainey Boggs the look on her face is happy look she's not horrified quite the opposite yeah
Starting point is 01:36:14 six pennies seven pennies six pennies yeah so there you go this is insane this is a very like just for saying there's a lot of things that just identifies this is a 90s movie yeah this is one of the most 90s things ever you know like these first of all high school kids just drinking and living
Starting point is 01:36:38 their life having parties and stuff like that is very 90s but then the idea that you could just be naked and nobody care that's in all that was also survivor in the year 2000 yeah you can tell this is really a sign of the times the winner was frequently naked so I'm telling you whoever is Freddie Prince Jr. on
Starting point is 01:36:57 survivor 47 is winning this thing gotta drop trial there you go whips it out yeah alright and that's she's all that. Incredible. By, by way of survivor 47. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Uh, which is insane that we just did that. I do want to go and plant our flag and say that was crazy. Uh, had a great time. This was a wonderful podcast. Insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Great time. I loved it. Okay. All right. Uh, Chappelle next on nothing but Netflix. I'm just trying to see... Right, is this canonical?
Starting point is 01:37:27 Are we going to do a real Nothing But Netflix episode? No, this week's Nothing But Netflix. Okay, because I feel like the non-Survivor Nothing But Netflix listeners are like, what? Mm-hmm. Who's baby Andy? Is he a child?
Starting point is 01:37:38 Is he grown? Why do they want him to get naked? This was for everybody, okay? All right. Those people should go watch Survivor 47. It's a great season. It's ridiculous. All so survivor is at least let's see uh anything else that's uh on your uh radar for what's coming up on nothing but netflix listen we got the king of the we know scripted rhap stuff here josh have you been keeping up with what Netflix has coming up soon?
Starting point is 01:38:07 What's coming to Netflix? We've got some holiday films that are already in the mix. Yeah, I believe I will be talking about Meet Me Next Christmas. Meet Me Next Christmas. Okay, that's already number one. Yeah, that'll be a
Starting point is 01:38:21 recap kickback episode for next week for sure. By the way, we also talked about Time Cut already. Be sure to check that out. Hot and Frosty is coming to Netflix. Frosty with an I? No, from Survivor China. Keep it going.
Starting point is 01:38:37 It's a Mariah Carey special coming to Netflix. Interesting. Okay. And then also, special coming to Netflix? Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Okay. So maybe it's just, uh, and then also, uh,
Starting point is 01:38:48 uh, Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson is still coming this November. Oh, good. Sign of the times. Yeah. Have you guys done Detroiters yet? No.
Starting point is 01:39:01 Got to do Detroiters. Detroiters hit Netflix, Tim Robinson, Sam Richardson. It's got all the I think you should leave sensibilities, except it's dramatized. Now, that having been said, if you want to, Brendan Fitzpatrick, Zach Brooks,
Starting point is 01:39:18 movie ladder this thing. The Fast and the Furious, Too Fast, Too Furious, The Fast and the Furious, Tokyo Drift, Furious The Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift Fast and Furious, Fast Five are all hitting Netflix on November 12th I think I'm good I've done all my Fast and Furiouses
Starting point is 01:39:33 Okay Alright, but we'll keep you posted I'm interested in Hot Frosty I want to know about Hot Frosty Hot Frosty, yeah It's about parkour Alright, so Josh, what's coming up for you? Lots going on here Hot Frosty. Hot Frosty? Yeah. Okay. It's about parkour. Yeah. All right. So, Josh, what's coming up for you?
Starting point is 01:39:52 Lots going on here because, of course, we know reality TV, but here on RHAP, we know scripted TV too, Rob Sesternino. And one of the things that we know is Severance, the Apple TV Plus mystery series that is returning for its second season in January of 2025, nearly three full years after the show initially premiered, was the show, I think, of 2022 for a lot of people, and will be coming back January 2025. One thing to look forward to about that month for sure.
Starting point is 01:40:23 And you don't have to wait that long because we're already talking about severance over at, we know TV. I've gotten the band back together of myself, Dr. Amanda and Dr. Melissa to talk about severance. We're doing a weekly rewatch of season one.
Starting point is 01:40:38 It is spoiler light. I said, it is not necessarily spoiler free. It is like informed guidance as you are watching severance alongside us uh it's 10 uh 10 weeks of severance the first week dropped uh already we have a preview show a kickoff show and then it's the nine episodes of season one coming next and it'll take us right into season two so you can subscribe to the feed we know severance.com uh we'll take you there and then a bunch of other things are happening on We Know Scripted. The Penguin has wrapped up or is wrapping up. And then Dune Prophecy is what's on the other side. It is a Dune prequel TV show on HBO. I'll be podcasting about that one with the tastemakers, Grace and Taryn. So you can get
Starting point is 01:41:25 all of that over at We Know Scripted TV. So much more happening over there. Check it all out. And of course, we stand out now. We stand Kageyan, but we also stand Juan del Sur, as every week, Rob and I have been
Starting point is 01:41:41 celebrating the 10-year anniversary week by week of Survivor San Juan del Sur. We're officially past the merge, and we're entering the first jury vote this week. I'm very excited about that.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Okay. All right. Great fun here today, Josh. Chappelle, what are you working on? Catch me on Recap Kickback. Every week, Mario and I are talking about the Black Entertainment News of the Week. Like I said, we have that Christmas movie coming up on Netflix
Starting point is 01:42:11 as well that we'll be talking about next week. Beauty in Black is the number one show, or at least was the number one show on Netflix for a very long time. I think it's fallen to number four at this point, but it's still in the top ten. We're talking about it with the Purple Tans badass Bryce Isaiah, so check that out on RecapKickback.com. Check it out now.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Exactly. On YouTube.com slash at RecapKickback. We also have Abbott Elementary coverage and, you know, Josh Wiggler in spirit was available for our The Walking Dead coverage. It's over as well. So in spirit. In spirit. And so we have all of that and more on RecapKickback. Check it out now
Starting point is 01:42:44 and subscribe to the podcast, recap, kickback.com slash subscribe. Wow. Wow. Yeah, exactly. We should just get like a,
Starting point is 01:42:53 the acapella version, just to play that during the plugs. Oh my God. Check it out. And you'd like that. I want, I want that so badly for us. Yeah.
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