RHAP: We Know Survivor - Peridiam on Survivor B&B: Survivor 49 Episode 8

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

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Hi, everybody, and welcome to the RHAP B&B for week 8 of Survivor 49. My name is Mike Bloom, and we are here to talk about quite the interesting week. Lots of decisions made by production of fostering a sort of unlikely scenario, especially considering that out of a group of five, three of them were on the job. upping block and it culminated in what might have been the first live tribal of the season, or was it? We have a new advantage to talk about. We are now looking ahead at a underdog group of three that might have all the advantages in their pockets.

There's a lot to get into the first. I'm so happy to welcome in, as always, the person who would never split away for me, especially to talk about this split tribal council, Leanna Boris. I, though I would try to win immunity if it meant me being safe and sending you to travel council. I'm sorry, Mike. Listen, I get it. It's a shrewd game.

It's an independent game. You do you. And we got the opportunity to have one survivor YouTuber, win an advantage where they got to visit our podcast and podcast alongside us. Now, Perennium, you could have to bank your appearance for a later episode, but you did choose to appear on this one. So I'm happy to welcome you in this week. Yeah, thank you, Mike.

I actually was going to go grab now that you said, I was like, oh, I've got a couple of like immunity necklaces behind me. or idols or whatever. I could just go grab but put it on pretend like I'm Savannah just here to like ruin the vibe you know,

just kill the vibes and not just completely we're going to complete a complete even direction now that the podcast has started we were just talking prior to the podcast starting and it was like very

we were good but now that I'm here everything's rancid and it's about to go in a complete of a direction so sorry I don't know which one you've got to get voted out but it's not me

well let's talk about your thoughts on the season so far and how rancid they might be again I've talked about this the past couple weeks that it does feel like the common opinion is first few episodes, maybe a little bit on the slower side, a little bit more conventional, predictable

with the vote outs, and the gas has firmly been turned on for the past few episodes. Do you agree? And what were your thoughts about this most recent episode specifically? Yeah, not a crazy hot take. I mean, yeah, I thought the first four or five episodes was like, cool, we are

surviving. This is Survivor. We're doing it. We're punching them in. We're punching and punching out every day. And then it got to the Savannah and the stage of it all, which I thought was really fun. And then the merge episode I really enjoyed, particularly because they just,

they're like, you're merged. I was like, Jeff said the merge word. We're merged. We've learned what it means to merge in Survivor again. Took nine seasons to get back to it. Because I'm like,

last season they literally just merged, but he didn't say it was a merge. I'm like, this is a merge. And then they did it. And it was fun because I'm like, I felt like the main characters all got blindsided. And I was like,

this is kind of reminding me a little bit of like, you know, like, if Todd and Amanda weren't in the driver's seat in China or something, the players that I thought they've got the advantages. They seem to have like, they got the air time. They've got the, you know, the wind in their sales. And it's not, how is this supposed to work out? This is fascinating.

I'm really, this piqued my interest now. And here we are again where I'm like, okay, they're at the bottom. Oh, we got, oh, New Air Survivors starting to mix it up a little bit. We're back where we used to be. I remember this. I remember this feeling. We got the merge, but now we got, we're back to a, tribe swap in the post merge and half the tribe is immune but then one person's going to the other

one and they get a secret advantage and it's all over the place again you know what's new um but that's survivor man we're back to surviving on survivor i think it was a bit of a mixed bag not my favorite episode but it was a good i thought it was pretty fun for the most part i enjoyed myself i'm it's weird because i'm watching the episode i'm like i'm paying attention and i'm like locked in And I really enjoyed the post-immunity, like, carousel of just people, like, ratting on each other, essentially. Kind of remind me of, like, a big brother where I'm like, everyone's just sort of going from room to room, throwing each other under the bus, almost unintentionally. And I enjoyed it. But I just was like, I kind of still wish we had 10 people on a beach a little bit.

Alex and Sophie B are out. Soph is gone. They should be here. Come on, bring them over. Like, everyone should come over. Let's just all bring them back over, guys. Anyway, but I'm enjoying it. It's pretty fun still.

I'm looking forward to it. I feel like we're going to have a better second half than a first half. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We'll see. Yeah, I do feel a little bit of that like start, stop energy where I was like, yes, let's go. Everybody together.

And we're going to see how these relationships turn out and all these dynamics. And we're going to see what's going to happen. And then it was just like, oh, it's psych. Not yet. Now, that being said, it was still interesting to watch how that group of five ultimately ended up playing out, especially given some of the strategic decisions that were made with MC. ratting out Sophie,

putting the vote on Jo-Wan, like that was all super fascinating, but it almost felt like, kind of like a bottle episode, to be fair. Like, it felt like we had this main storyline, like this main plot that we were kind of going on. And we kind of took this like little offshoot

to do like the B plot of the story, even though obviously has major ramifications for the main part of the story. I did watch the sneak peek for next week. Mm-hmm. The next week's episode. And there will be, I think, some major ramifications. for this decision of ultimately getting out MC. But at least in that exact moment,

it just felt like a little bit of a deviation because it was just so excited to finally have everybody together. But that being said, you know, it is just interesting watching how these players are making decisions because it's a little bit baffling to me sometimes, but that's what it's interesting. Yeah, I would agree with that. Listen, I'd rather have questionable but discussion-worthy gameplay

over, you know, the straightforward, more conservative gameplay that we saw from the first five episodes and not to like, you know, bemoan their decisions too much. Yeah, that's where I sort of lie with this episode is that I don't love the sort of manipulated circumstance

it took for us to get to this outcome, right? Like, think about the fact that we had this dynamic of nine versus three and then it took like, A, the split tribal twist, B, the tribe splitting out specifically this way where Rizzo is by himself. Like, if Rizzo was with a soap or a Savannah,

and none of them had immunity. Like, this idol play or non-idal play may not work out as well. And then even that, at least MC has said that, like, even with Rizzo having the idol, the plan was still to pile on him until Savannah shows up. So then you have that added on, and that's when things really start to kind of start spin out of control. So it's not like I didn't like the stuff that was happening.

As you mentioned, I especially love the sort of round robin of, okay, Sophie has a plan to throw a vote onto Jawan. MC tells that plan to Jawan. Joanne turns it on to Sophie, but then Joanne is also like, Sophie is now turning on to MC as well, but she doesn't want MC to know about it, but MC is very much clocking it. And so there was a lot of cool stuff to watch, I think especially from a character like Sophie,

who we really knew not a lot about until the post-merge kicked off. And I was duped. I absolutely thought she was going here, just because she was the quieter of the two. It felt like even after that idol play, MC had a lot more narrative momentum to her than Sophie. And so I was a bit surprised by all this, especially because we were also kind of left in the dark as to what was going on at tribal council,

considering they did one of my pet peeves of the pre-41 seasons during live tribals, which is not showing us what was whispered to just leave us in the dark. So we have no clue how it all came together. You know, live tribals are back, baby. We're back to the pre, this is old school survivor now, unsubtitled live tribals. That's the thing. I'm okay with the live tribal, but please, like just some stuff. Just like, Mama wants a taste.

Like, I just, I just want a little bit of knowledge to know what's going on here. Knowledge is power, you know. I know. And I, unlike Sophie B, whatever we're calling her, I just, I don't have it. And like, it's so disappointing. I just, I wish we had gotten, like, I would have loved to have known what MC said before she left. Like me, and I mean, I don't know, who knows? Like, maybe we'll get a confessional where Joanne is going to be like, oh, here,

MC pulled me aside and said that, da, da, da, whatever. But, like, I just really want to know. There was a, I did listen to her exit interview. Yeah. Where I think, is that with you might, or those Rob, Stistrina, I asked her, like, so what exactly did you say to Joanne when you pulled them aside at Live Tribe, at the Live Tribal? And she did talk about a little bit about that.

It was sort of just reaffirming, like they were trying to get a two, two split, I think. Yeah. At the very least, basically it's like she wanted her and Joanne were going to vote for Sophie so that if Rizzo and Savannah put their two votes onto somebody else. there, you know, Sophie and maybe Sage voted for her. Then it would be a two, two tie. And then they just vote out Rizzo on the re-vote. And it just did not end up coming to fruition.

Obviously, there are some other circumstances that MC ascribes to, you know, the reason why she opens up to Juan in particular wanting to, ironically enough, combat the unfortunate stereotype that has come about or trend, I should say, that black people end up getting voted out at a version of the split tribal, basically for the past, what, like seven seasons? of the new era, only for herself to go out in the process. So, yeah, there was a lot that we didn't necessarily see.

And I feel like they, they pieced together a narrative, right? Which was MC was the Madam Webb, ironically, MCU, and that she, her web connected everybody. And that was, I think, the much better play. It's something we talk about all the time, right? Which is like, if you have these two options, and one of them is such a big target that people on the other tribe are speculating,

that she's going to go, like, why not keep that person in? Because it's clear that you could use this as leverage to get her on your side. And so I really do think, granted, a lot of things had to fall into the favor of Rizzo and Savannah and company, but like, they played the hand that they were dealt with

incredibly effectively. Yeah, I do, I did, on our, so on a rewatch, I was able to really, like, focus. I was like, how did this because I was, I thought Sophie was going to go as well initially, but then on the rewatch, looking, now obviously, knowing MC is going. It did make a lot more sense when I started to be able to feel like, okay, Sage seemingly is going to Sophie here.

That's a pretty big scene telling me where Sage is lying. Her vote might lie. Joanne obviously is going to go with Sage. And at that point, Rizzo and Savannah clearly locked in after realizing. And to be fair, Savannah comes over with this nugget drop of like, the other people are all over their thing. And Sophie's going because she's not that connected or whatever. So maybe we go for MC.

And I'm like, oh, if Savannah doesn't show up, does Rizzo change his tune? Because he was originally like, I'll go with wherever the wind's going. I'll just tell me where to go. And then when Savannah comes, he's like, oh, okay, we're in the driver's seat. Now, let's go. And I'm like, okay, interesting. That dramatically changes the direction of the outcome on top of the fact that MC also then Rats throws Sophie under the bus to Jawan, who then throws MC under the bus, who then,

interestingly, I did note, I don't know why. Like when Sage tells Sophie what Joanne told her, is there any friction? is that like they're on the same terms? We never really saw the Sage and Joanne connection that much. Yeah, it's weird. They were sort of regarded as like a block. I mean, I guess his bottoms up

alliance was like forged and steel from this one Shannon vote. There were two duos with Sophie and MC and Sophie and MC obviously had that awkward scene but then I didn't see anything come from Joanne and Sage. When Sage goes, hey, Joanne told me this stuff. Joanne clearly finds that out.

We don't see him acknowledge that. Like, how did he feel about Sage telling Sophie that like now Sophie it goes all the way back in a weird carousel of throwing each other under the bus unintentionally I don't know I'm like oh we didn't see that so I wonder how that but obviously they came together so I guess they smoothed it over or didn't really mind maybe on the same page at the end of the day more than MC and Sophie were but I did enjoy that part of the episode I was like oh this could be like a weird if they all had all 10 of them on the beach Are we looking at a slightly smaller version of David Goliath

where the people at the Davids have all the advantages and are at the bottom. And now we might actually still get that next week anyway. Actually, we might get that even more now with Savannah having an extra boat. But what we got, I'm like, you know, this was actually a really fun final five, as MC said in her interview I listened.

She's like, it kind of felt like we were at the final five and we were throwing each other under the bus to make sure we made it to the final four. But unfortunately, it wasn't the final five. And then it became a final six with Savannah. who also couldn't vote, which is like, who's in a final five

with a six person who can't vote? What do we do? That's great. That's wild. I wonder if maybe that is the key philosophy to why Jeff is obsessed with small tribes. Is he sort of feels like, well,

basically these tribes are playing a final six from the very beginning, which like, is it actually the case from a logical perspective? Like, yes, maybe on paper, if there are six people around, they are a final six of their tribe, but they're not going to play like the final six.

And I think they got lucky here and that they are, we're playing like a final five and there were so many names being thrown around. But again, it was due to a lot of circumstances that also got rolled in at the same time. Right. Very new, very new era survivor showing up here on the doorstep. Yeah, very much so.

And I think also you've got like lingering. So, so yeah, I mean, part of the reason why it's not though a final five or final six is you have people referencing connections outside of that. Okay, so maybe you could. Yeah, it really was. A future immunity. right which I guess maybe you could consider

like at the final five final six like that does matter especially now with final four fire making but the other thing is like really keeping into fact the MC Idol play which we hear Joanne especially mentioned multiple times sage at the beginning of the episode also is like hey

like why didn't you tell us about that which is so interesting to me because then I go back and I'm like okay well Savannah knew obviously she found her finding it yeah Rizzo knew so why was that not

communicated more if I was MC I would be like Savannah found me finding this I've had it since there I didn't have a beau blah blah whatever I don't know like I just feel then I'm like did MC tell nobody about the idol did she tell

maybe some of the other members of Hina so what MC told me was that there was an audience involved in the infamous key scuffle she says that I think was Alex just out of frame. Alex, Christina, and Stephen.

Behind the cameraman. Yeah, exactly. Apparently they walked up on her during that. And so she, I think, kind of felt it was a state secret. I was a little confused as to, like,

was Jawan angry that she didn't tell him about the other? Or was she, was he angry that she played it? You know, like, that's what I was thinking to. I think it's more so the latter of like, we know you have an idol.

I told you this plan. Why did you still play your idol? Because they were saying in confessionals, like, oh, she didn't tell us. us. But then I'm like, I think this is more of a, why did you end up playing it? You didn't need to play it. And I think Joanne initially was like, yo, what's that about? Like, you don't trust me? Like, and MC does explain our logic, which I think is very sound. And she's like, look, every, she does say like everyone, so many people knew about it. It puts a target on your back. And at the first merge vote, you don't know exactly where everyone's going. You think you do. But look at Savannah. Look at Rizzo. Look at Nate. Suddenly, if they had an idol, they would have loved to have played it. You know, you don't. don't know. You just don't know. That's something

that you and I talked about last week, Leonor, right? How like the idol finds this season and this even starts off by talking about the defensive idol finds versus the offensive idol finds of like, okay, well, maybe Joanne was pissed off that, oh, MC played one. That means there's an idol that's not on our quote-unquote

side. Now, Christina ends up finding it. So it's all kind of a wash anyway. But I wonder if maybe that was also incorporated into his logic as well. Yeah. I mean, although at this stage, now I I feel like so many wrenches have been thrown into all of the plans with MC being the one to go. And I do feel like we knew, well, okay, theoretically, based on what the edit was telling us,

is that there was some tension on Hina anyway, especially between Sophie S and Christina, with Christina being the one to throw up, put Sophie's name, I think under, like put it out as the decoy vote for one of the pre-merged tribals or something they didn't end up going to. But still, that pissed Sophie S off. So there's still some conflict there. So really, when you look at the original Hina, there's three and two of them potentially don't get along. So I just think that there's so much more fluidity than what it felt like to, even last

week's episode, where it was just like, all right, well, Nate's going. And then maybe it's kind of how they get around this idol. They split the boats, whatever, Bing, Bang, Bosch, like, we're done. And then it's a steam roll. But no, now as a consequence of this, and I think also because of what actually happened on the beach with those five, that I think there's. more seeds of distrust being sewn, where now

moving into the next episode, not only do you have a theoretical minority with all the tools, but they might not even be the real minority, because when you have other people being pulled together, and Alex, for example, being like, I don't care, I'll go wherever the numbers are. Who knows? Maybe he feels like he's going to flock to power now that

MC is gone, for example. So it just feels like what felt so incredibly solid, like one week ago, now feels so much more fluid. It's like 24 hours and this is all happening in this 24 hours. I was like Savannah like completely

crashed out over the span of like 12 hours and now she's like back on top baby. Yeah. I mean absolutely wild. I mean, it does help that you know, she wins. Talk about the reward with all the mixins. Like gets immunity. Gets immunity for half her tribe gets to in theory go over to the other tribe and vote and then also gets an extra vote

in the process. Like this might be more in the most loaded of immunity wins I've ever seen. I do also want to offer, like, because the split tribal, I think, I don't know, I think maybe opinions vary, especially with like results oriented. I still don't like it as a twist, especially when you're one vote into the merge, feels like it's kind of halting the momentum, as you both mentioned before. Was this one of the most interesting outcomes we've seen from a split tribal? I do. Yeah, I think so for sure. Yeah, I've looked into it a lot because I remember like when it happened on 44 and the online community was like just in an. outrage about it. They really didn't like it. I think it happened pretty much to some

degree, whether it's two people going or one person going. Like last season was, I think, a total dud. I think it was the say in Cedric boots, which is just like the two people at the bottom, they both go. Okay, we're back here. And that's when I just turned into like, okay, you know, the pecking order was happening. Um, this was a lot different where I think this is going to profoundly, I personally has profoundly changed the rest of the seasons. I think they're like, okay, the majority alliance is formed. We might get a steam roll. but first we're going to add on an extra addition where we're going to blow up the majority and then back to your regularly scheduled insane survivor everybody's running around

with chicken so the heads cut off and uh i don't love it either i'm not a big fan of it personally i've always said it's like i try to view it as like a swap in the post merge instead of the premurge if you can contort the premerge why not do the post merge and i'm like yeah but i love the post merge because it's individual whereas in the premerge what's fascinating is you're mixing up the tribe dynamics of people are meeting each other for the first time and it can radically change the pre-merged portion which leads to the merge which is the the like the climax of the first half of the season and it's like you're at the pinnacle and then it gets this is when all the all the armies are marching together to meet the battle the five armies or whatever the three armies

and then listen yeah and sometimes they perform about as well as that movie did right well yeah okay and sometimes but then they're like but wait now we're going to go back and spend an extra hour and a half on the tribe. And so that does sort of throw me for wrench. I thought this was a very fun, like of all of them to have happens. This might even be the most interesting of them all. And this is going back to season 36 is when I think they

first did it. So we're looking at like 13-ish seasons going back. Yeah, let's do a quick little rewind through Survivor history here. So 36, nothing doing. I guess the most interesting one was the Michael Yerger vote, which was when Wendell may have been in danger, right? Because Kellyn was

looking to use the extra vote and then, you know, Wendell was able to get essentially Laurel and Kellen to split their votes. It was like the most in danger Wendell and Dominic had ever been the entire game. I think it might be the most impressive part of Wendell's game, actually. So I have talked about it a few times on my YouTube channels. It's actually a pretty good moment for what it's worth the first time they ever did it. Yeah. And then we have 41.

The Nassir boot was interesting if only because of the way. Oh, yeah, we had a 39 and that was the Aaron, you know, Missy. Not really, but the Missy Boot was interesting at least because she was really shocked. That was her trying to get. of Tommy and get closer to Lauren and they turn it on her. She had a big reaction. 41, we had the Nassir vote which was interesting in that it had

Ricard and Shan defensively playing the extra vote. And I remember there was a lot of talk as to like, okay, why did they split their votes? And this is when we found out about like what carries through on a tie. Otherwise, the Evie boot was straightforward. 42 was definitely the most talked about. Certainly one result

of the split tribal to the point where MC was thinking of that tribal which informed her decision. this tribal, but obviously everything going out with Mary Ann and Dreia. And the Rocksray thing was interesting at least in that like, he got betrayed by his newfound bros. Oh yeah, they had a bros alliance all of a sudden

form or something and they like they all got forced to go to travel without any of the women. Yep. 43 had like, 43 had the interesting blind side of James Jones at least where they had, you know, they had them steal Owens vote to create this facade

so James wouldn't use knowledge as power. And then like the Ryan vote lays a lot of seeds down because isn't the thing that like Cassidy claims is her big thing and then you had Gabler and Cody and Jesse being like no actually we did it so maybe that was a moment that that helped win Gabler the season

you mentioned 44 I feel like in the time we you know that we regard that as like one of the worst episodes of Survivor ever 45 had a straightforward seafood boot and even though Jake tried to get something going with the rock draw had Caleb going 46 had Tim boot

which the only intrigue there was the Yanu's arguing with each other and then The soda boo was interesting in that it was, you know, all the Nami's just, it was, it was almost like this thing where it was like, Tevin and Liz, like trying to get a scalp or something like that. It all should have theoretically been. It was all Nami and Charlie. And so it's like, okay, he's the easy person to get rid of. But all the Nami were so hungry to turn on each other that they just all threw each other under the bus. And then that informs the next time out when Tevin and Venus are arguing over who got the credit for the soda blindside.

And Liz was like, I got the credit or something, right? And that's what leads you to the blindside. too, because he should be taking the blame for it. 47 had the Tiana stuff, which was interesting, but I think very advantage, uh, 48, a little bit with Matt almost. Yeah, exactly. But this is, yeah,

this is even like a bigger game changing outcome, right? Where it's like, Rachel would have gone, but Saul finds this thing at the last minute. And then as you mentioned, 48 had some pretty rote, say, and Cedric Wood. So I would say this is like top three, if not number one. Mm-hmm. I think it's

probably the most interesting. I, I was, I enjoyed rewatching, the whole segment of before Savannah shows up and after Savannah shows up you know, pre-Savana post-Savana. I thought it was fun. I generally enjoyed it. I'm like this would be a really fun final five,

final six dynamic. That's the one caveat. I'm like, ah, but we're not. We're at the final 10. I love final 10 so that's the one. But yeah, I thought it was a good, I think it is probably my favorite of the splits now that we just went through all of them. Because not all of them are,

well, it was only one though. It's tough when you have two, because sometimes one's good and one's not so interesting. And then I'm like, well, it was a little bit trade this flat. In this case, it was just one. And it was pretty fun. So, yeah, I think also, you know, obviously, we haven't seen exactly how it's going to play out. But in terms of long term ramifications also, I do feel like this is one of the most impactful of those kind of split tribal dynamics.

So, again, we'll see. But it does certainly feel like the tides have started to shift, just simply. over the course of this one episode. I think for me, the other thing that was interesting was to have, like, was to have the other four, right? Okay, so they're just like sitting there eating.

And then all of a sudden, Savannah just, who goes by on a boat. And they're just like, what is that? Like, what do they think is going on? Like, Savannah just got abducted and did not come home. Imagine if they watched, like, yeah,

human trafficking happened that she's like, waving. She's like, no, I'm saying help. Help. Help. Hannah. Yeah, no, this is, this is, I'm saying help. Yeah, because they seemingly didn't know. Like, you know, obviously they knew that she was going off to tree mail, but then it's not like she came back and said like, hey, bye guys, like, I'm actually going over there. The next time they see her, she's just like, always on the boat, you know?

I love that. I like the idea of like, because otherwise, if someone else had found this it might have been a way for them to come back, like, okay, let's work on a plan. What do we all want? do. Sort of like what happened with Saul, right? Where he was able to tell them about it. No, I don't think he did, right? Because he pulled Rachel aside after that. It was like, oh, yeah, by the way, it was me. But I think

that this allows her to kind of like think on her toes a little bit more. And just to your point, Liana, the fantastic image of her maybe being like, all right, I got to go to the bathroom. And then the next thing you see is just her going by on a boat. I cannot imagine the questions that were going to her head. She was hijacked and paid a guy off in Fiji to just travel around. I'm just going to go to

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but also being able to essentially, this is a thing we haven't seen in a long time, I think, which is the bank of vote advantage, which is okay. If you expend your vote now, you can save another one for later. This case,

it was more so like, this was kind of playing with house money, right? Like you didn't have a vote and then you got one offered to you, so you're like, yeah, I might as well pocket it at this point.

Do we like this? I would have liked him more if she didn't have it, so maybe I don't like it, but I will say like the extra vote is one of the weakest advantages in the game, maybe even the weakest. I've looked at, like, I've charted this stuff

for YouTube videos, and I found, like, it almost never plays a part. Now, with the tight numbers that they are and the fact that she's in the minority, it may actually be a huge thing going forward. Card to say we're at the final nine now, and nobody knows she even has it, really, except for, like, Rizzo.

So it's a little bit of, like, wow, it does feel a little bit heavy-handed, like, a producer put, but also it feels a little convenient. Like, not saying they gave it to Savannah. I just think I'm, Like, this could have easily gone the wrong direction, too, where if we had Savannah and Rizzo on the minority tribe, the tribe that lost, and then they were down three to two,

but maybe they have an idol or something, or maybe they even had a three to two advantage with Sophie there, Sof, and it was Savannah and Rizzo and Sof against two. And they're like, oh, they've got, for one minute, they've got the upper hand. And then all of a sudden, who knows, Stephen flies over there. And all of a sudden he, or Sophie goes, or whoever wins immunity goes over there.

And now it's three to three. and I'm like, that kind of killed, but I don't know. It worked out in this case to an extent. I don't know. I'm like, look, I wish the whole boat just carried all four of them over and then we just had 10 on one side. You know, I was like, at least we're getting there. We're making baby steps getting the merge drive back together,

getting the band back together. Like one is good. I wish we had five, but I'll take one at least. At least it's another person. She's got immunity normal in post-merge. There's somebody with an immunity necklace. Somebody, and like we're watching Survivor, Survivor. surviving.

But anyway, that was my thoughts on it. It wasn't like the worst thing ever, but, you know. Yeah, I mean, I thought, well, first of all, does it have a name? Because it's kind of like the, like, is it just a bank of vote? Is that all it's called? Because it's also like secret go over to the other tribe and then also maybe possibly bank of vote. Yeah, it's just like combining two things where it was just kind of rebranding the bank of vote

into a new name. Yeah. You also get to go over there and theoretically, I mean, I guess like Savannah didn't really and remind me, Savannah didn't really tell them like, hey, like she is just coming over to vote. She's all they did.

She had the option to bank it. She said that just, she is voting tonight. And this is technically a take on an advantage that we didn't see, but this happened in the premiere of Survivor 45 where Kendra went to the Lulu tribe. Oh, they didn't even air that, did that. Yeah. So she got to visit for

the day and she got to cast a vote at that tribal council and then she like, wild. GTFOed. Just because kind of quit that they didn't show any of that. They just cut that out of that episode, didn't they? Yeah, because it didn't matter. A whole vote was there. A whole new player was on the beach.

None of it showed. And that's wild. That's like, that puts purpling to a new, that's like purpling to a new level. That's like, oh my gosh. But I think also like the advantage, really the one of the biggest advantages, as we saw with the result was just Savannah just put her feet down on that beach. That was the real big advantage, more than the extra vote, I think. Yeah.

Just Savannah's present. in the midst with Rizzo having an idol it was like it's over like they're toast this four people alliance they're over they got nothing and this is on top of the fact they had already begun unraveling and then Savannah shows up

it's like oh man it's colds in the wound that's really what I think it was like I really do strongly feel that like because they were already starting to unravel Savannah showing up was just the extra little like kick you know like the straw that broke the camel's back potentially because I think that there's a universe

where then they can kind of get it together and maybe still pile all their votes on Rizzo. But then almost like, and I'm sure you're just thinking irrationally, you're just like, well, F me then. Like,

what am I supposed to do? Like just bringing over all his allies, like whatever. Yeah, like clearly the survivor gods do not want the Riz God to go here. I mean, yeah,

and it makes a little bit of sense because remember Sophie's big plan on paper was, okay, it's going to be like three to one to one, right? Where it's going to be three votes on Rizzo. I throw a vote onto Joanne, Rizzo will vote for whoever. If he plays the idol, worst case scenario, it's a one-one tie.

If Rizzo has another vote on his side, which Savannah is saying that she has, then you can't tie it, right? You can't necessarily, because you only have four votes. You can't really, I guess you could go, maybe this is what M-C was going for, like try to do the two-two-two, but I feel like it's just so tough to do when the numbers are so tight. And one of the reasons why I think this is also chaotic is, like, some of these Hinas, like Sophie S and MC,

this is only the second time they've ever voted in their survivor career. So like they're still kind of trying to get their feet under them. Yeah, which I do think is somewhat of a detriment to the three tribe format, which is why I'm like, hey, two tribes, not such a bad idea sometimes. It forces everyone in the show to be on the show. And I think that's nice. And then we get to the merge and everyone sort of got their wound,

their battle wounds and stuff. And they've all been to tribal. You've got like Christina who's been to like one dribble, I think, the whole season at the final nine. are yeah that's wallah yeah the nate vote well and and the other thing too to keep in mind is sophy s had immunity and mc played an idol so this is also the first tribal where they are actually exposed that and could theoretically go home so yeah i i think for that reason it was just such utter chaos because then you're just trying to do all these things but at the end of the day

self-preservation kicks in i'm sure and then you know joan and sage are just like well what the hell of we suppose and also whatever another huge element element that like is not really benched but they don't know for sure what like savanna is lying first of all but they don't even know to what extent she's lying yeah unlike on big brother where you can't lie about superpowers on survivor you can do whatever you want you can take a piece of parchment tear it off right down a little scribbling this is my legacy advantage you can do that that's what that's what right exactly so i'm like to be fair savanna comes over she's already got the immunity necklace which is imposing savanna's very you know they're all like she was there's how there was

she was the target. She wins immunity. Of course, she does. Now she's given him an extra vote to possibly throw off this 3-1-1. And she's voting. And also, we don't know for sure what else she has. Like, that's the bigger part of the advantage. The extra vote is honestly like the lamest part of it because it doesn't, probably, maybe we'll have an effect next episode, but whatever. But the biggest part is the unknown, which is what these players are dealing with. And then are also sleep deprived and they're hungry and they're stressed. And it just creates this. And they've,

already been throwing a ton of the bust for like a few hours prior it's just uh what a hot man i mean the producers are i'm guessing they're loving the jeff's like we're doing this every every season that's that's the issue now is i think i wonder if this like makes jeff be like okay this is the reason why we do it i think actually the extra vote is going to be incredibly useful i think this might be the first because they're eight they're theoretically what like eight to three right now if the three have or four with the extra vote let alone maybe Is it six to three? Or it's six to three.

Sorry, the final nine. So it's six to three. If they have four and the other six would split, let alone bringing on a Sophie S, bringing on an Alex. Like that bears a lot of weight. So I mean,

it's interesting because, yeah, we end up, you bring up David versus Goliath for me. I think that's a very salient comparison because we have this underdog alliance, but they are the ones that have with Christina's idol being the exception, all of the advantages.

And not only that, each one of them has an advantage. I imagine that Sof is going to finally tell the other two about her knowledge is power. I think based on the beginning of the episode, I took a note of this on the rewatch. Like Alex is like, he is 100% going to throw Christina under the bus to Sophie, unknowing that she or maybe she'll bring it up.

But either way, he's, I think he's going to play the middle and he's going to tell Sophie B, our tides are turning. Things are a bit up in the air now. I want you to know, Christina did find the idol. And then that's going to lead to Sophie taking,

Sof taking the idol. And it's going to be like, like Alex's demise or something like that. Because she would have, Christina said she would have played it for him, but I think it's going to blow back, which is great. I'm like,

so I love the fact that she's not telling anybody about that. Like, good for her. You go, I love that. You don't need to show. Unfortunately for MC, it's like the opposite.

But in this case, uh, it's going to get her an idol and it's also going to be later in the game. There's less of a less time to have blowback. So I don't, I'm looking forward to that. I definitely think it's going to happen. No.

Mm-hmm. Well, and I mean, the threat of advantage is also. just naturally will win people over to your side, right? So it's, as we've seen with Rizzo, he has been balls of steel sitting through two

tribal councils, not playing his idol like a crazy man. Wild man. It's just a wild man. What did he live in Survivor 46? Well, but his confessional was like, whether it's 10th or fourth, I don't care. I'm here to win this game. So I think

that that attitude is just like... Money, baby. Yeah, exactly. Like, what's a point of me getting through one more week for then me to go home next week, right? So he's really... I'm looking at like Venus and Hunter and all a cue and I'm like, you guys didn't play our idols. What is another

week? But I know. Believe me. I'm like, and to be fair, they were like, we're going to vote for Rizzo. We're going to blindside him. And then Rizzo's like, I don't think I'm going to play it. And I'm like, oh no. Oh, no. This is wild. Okay. All right. You know, you do. And then the fact that he makes

it. Can I, yeah, can I also ask? Because I've seen this band about a little bit. Do you feel like Savannah's giving you poverty energy? A little, a little, yes. I don't know. It's tough to say for sure.

Because like, which version, I guess? I was talking Micronesia. Cook Islands, no. Winners at war, not really. I think it's, you know, I think it's between. It's the like, here's villains a little bit. Like, she's got this reputation about her. Yeah.

And others are talking about her a lot, which is how it was on here's villains. I had a person reach out to me like a year ago. It was super random. they're like, I have all the time stamps of Parvety being targeted on all of her seasons. Can you take these out and just edit it together? And I have a video, it's like two hours of everyone just talking about poverty on Survivor. And it's a lot.

Like, it is, it is wild. So that's what I'm getting when I hear people, when I pay attention, like, there are a lot of people on Survivor 49 right now. We've got 10, 11 people. But who are they talking about? Nobody's talking much about Stephen. Nobody's talking about Christina. they are talking a lot about Savannah in every way

and it's very complimentary also sometimes not but that's how it was for Parvey in a way so when I hear that I'm like I can kind of see comparisons in that sense like there's a lot of everyone's got an opinion on her and they're all sharing it we're seeing that but it's what funny I have this montage of Parvety being targeted for two hours and it's so

intrigued as to what the request was like was this more any sort of presentation was it for their own personal files? I have no idea I did it I'm like I love Parvite's one of my favorites so I'll do it it'll be fun I got instantly copyrighted because it's not really edited well but I just am like here

I sent it on a Google Drive and he the person took it this was years this was a year or two ago so And that person's name was John Fincher Maybe it was Savannah maybe she was getting ready to Maybe it was May Martin reach out to you Maybe oh maybe Oh my gosh maybe But anyway yeah that's where when I think of like

I know people have compared her to Parvety a little bit There is an element of like heroes versus villains where she's sort of got this negative tinge to her, but she's the dominating force. People are kind of afraid of her, and I think it's going to build into that now that she is going to be back, looking to be back on top soon.

And she's obviously got the athletic thing. She, I don't know, did Parvey win the toe hanging. They did this challenge and here as villains. Well, so, yeah, people are comparing the get a grip, which is the grip-toll challenge. She did that one really well. She did do chimney sweep.

That was a, it was a tribal challenge, though, if you remember, sort of like this one, actually, where it was like the last one standing. that was when you had Colby and Jerry right next to each other. They did, yeah. They did win that. And she was in that. So Savannah's got that going for that parallel.

Yeah. And she's a woman. Lepper, leper print bathing suit. Good call. Leper brim bathings. There you go. I think for me,

okay, so I would say overall, I can see the comparison. Where it starts to break down for me is something that we actually saw in this episode, which is when Savannah goes to Stephen and is telling him that story about how she was iced out at work and then she's like crying about it and sharing sort of this traumatic experience that she went through.

Could I see Parv doing that? I would I agree. I would contest that to say that I think if Parvety was in the new era, knowing what we know of her now, there is a non-zero chance we get some sort of backstory of I was raised in a cult

and my family escape. I don't know if she would open up about that, but I feel like if she was placed in this modern day setting and she did, it would absolutely make the episode in the way that Savannah did. Now, I don't know if she would be like you know, weeping and confessional about it. Because I agree. And also with

the claims that Savannah is this big villain, I think this is sort of contesting that as well, that like she obviously has a lot of unfortunate experiences with feeling socially shunned from things. But I don't know. I think given what the new era likes to do, like there is a nonzero chance we would have seen Parvety's backstory. It's wild

I'm just thinking now like Cook Islands they do this, like the emotional backstory montage on Cook Islands with Parvety and everything. She had a story going into that season. Anyway. But see, okay, but I think that there's a difference between her talking about her story and confessionals and then her using it to try to gain

favor within the tribe. Because look, this is me completely making an assumption, but I'm telling you, to me, Savannah told that story to Stephen to, like, gain empathy. Okay. The timing of it was... The timing of it was so special.

Did I believe? I mean, that she literally sat him down and said, like, did I ever tell you about my work trauma. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, don't get me wrong. Like, obviously, the trauma is trauma. And this is obviously, that's why maybe she's thinking about it, because it's pulling that information back out of her. But I don't know, there was

something also about that scene where she like kept looking at him, almost like to see if he was reacting to the store. I don't know. This is again, me trying to just like read body, like whatever. But it just like, it didn't, I don't know, that's not a parve move to me. Like the parv move is she's still like giggling out there in the jungle

trying to figure out how she's going to like make this work kind of situation and then she'll go flirt with somebody right like that's more that's maybe like the stereotypical way that I would think she would approach it so I see subtle differences between the two of them but I can understand why the there are there are a lot of broad I feel like I can't like this Harvey 2.0 is like its own video topic in the making you know like the whole starting from here's versus I did think about this earlier randomly I was just like the first hero because I was thinking I'm making a making upcoming video about the first time I ever like crashed out watching Survivor um

which would have been probably Nicaragua, watching people quit. And so, but I thought like, oh, but you had Brenda, what's the pitch for Brenda? Because I was reading for it. And then watching her on the jury. And she was sort of the first,

I think, Parvety 2.0 post-hero's villains. Yeah. The Black Marma. And she did a very good job at actually instilling that a little bit, that just like strong, flirty,

slightly villainous toned, just manipulating people to get her way and being at the top of the leader, bleeding. did we know it six years yeah five seasons afterwards right and then right and so i'm like you know there are definitely there aren't a ton of that archetype in the generally people throw out poverty 2.0 but it usually doesn't really make sense and i don't agree with most of them but in her case with stavana i wouldn't say it's like whatever parvary 2.0 or anything but it does have tingees

of parvey and also just i think that she's going to find success i don't know if she'll win this season i thought i was more confident on her winning uh in the earlier parts of the season now i'm like, oh, they might be throwing a lot of doubt her way. And if she does go to the end, does she even have the jury votes at this point? But then again, you can say the same about Parvety on Survivor Heroes versus villains. She was this tort of force.

People were keeping her, they're looking for her left, right, center, targeting her constantly, and she didn't win the game. She had all this negativity. So, I don't know. Yeah. And that's also, you know, new players versus returning players, not to say that new players can't sort of have baked in resentment, but I do feel like, you know, you have someone like Candace

being unhappy that Parvity voted against her given their previous connections like given what seems to be a sort of like game respects game mentality of 49 so far I think there's a reasonable chance that like yeah if a riso if a savanna makes it to the end then it's like oh okay well listen uh you know it sucks that i had to go out this way but like kudos to you for for doing this uh i will also say again not to make too much light up was obviously a very traumatic situation for savannah i did love steven's reaction were not to say he didn't mean well in being a listening ear,

but it was giving a little bit like Mama kudos for saying that for spilling like of him just being like, yep, that's great. Oh, oh,

really. Oh, I'm starting to hear that. Yeah. To be fair, it's a tough way to respond to anybody, really. Like that is sort of a blanket response

to I don't know how I'm supposed to help you in this moment. So I'm just going to say, I'm so sorry that happened. Yeah. but also again you have to think about the context in which it's happening

which is like she's just being isolated and now she's telling you that she felt bad about being isolated from a social situation and so you're like okay so I just redid the trauma to you that you felt previously and now like do I apologize

I'm also sorry like if I did that I don't know I just can't imagine poor Steven being in his shoes and being like I've no idea I was like I wish I was up in space right now God put me in a Locket. Launch me. I want out of here.

How do we feel about Savannah also tried to pass the buck a bit to Sage? Did you just sort of showed up very quickly in the episode prior to everything prior to the Immunity Challenge? She started throwing

Sage under the bus. I thought, interesting. She's trying to sort of, at least to us, turn the tables and villainize Sage a little bit. And we've really seen that that much, but I thought that was a very curious reaction where she was like, Sage is trying to make me the bad guy, but you can't have it both. You can't be at the top and stabbing everyone with daggers and then also being like, uh, woe is me. You know, I'm, I'm, you know, I will remember

that there was a little bit of beef going on. I'll be it one sided where Sage was targeting Savannah and Shannon did tell Savannah that. So I have a feeling that, uh, that might have been talking about a knife, but acts to grind against her for a while. And so when she finds out some accusations levied against her of like, oh, she thinks you're a mean girl that you're making these sort of like low-key, shady comments. Then she's basically saying like, I also was listening on the confessional stage where you said, I can also be a mean girl.

So you can play at that game. I think there's a trader's season coming up with both their names on the round table. Oh, 100%. I would love to see it. Well, but the thing is, yeah, because we see it both ways, right? Because also Sage goes to Sophie B

and is like she made me feel like she is making digs at me, that kind of thing. Then we have. Yeah, who would have all the chicken? scene was going to create ironically enough so much beef. I've never heard General Salz mentioned so much times of Survivor.

Yeah, it was interesting. I also, the one other moment I really, really liked from this episode was it was when Sage tells Sophie that MC told Joanne, right? That whole situation. And Sophie, they just blur her mouth. She's just like, F for her. I don't know why, but it was like,

It just felt such a human reaction to that moment of like, I'm so screwed. Like just single expletive. It was, it was beautiful. We're Stephen's rocket. Launch me out of here. Exactly.

Sophie has once along on the ride. All right. It kind of reminded me I was going to say of that quote where it's like everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. And like Sophie had a plan until she got punched in the face. And then she had just like total breakdown and ends up voting out her like closest ally by the end of the episode. I got a sad. I really like what we've seen of Sophie so far.

I really liked the timing of the analogy at Tribal Council when she's sitting by herself. And she's like, Jeff, it's like, I'm the last one picked up at school. And my mom's here. Like, she's really good. She's very fun. When you give her sound bites, like she will gobble them down. She'll turn away the fruit platter, but she will devour any screen time that you give her. I've enjoyed her on the season, even though she wasn't really around for the first, like, four episodes.

But you know what? Maybe there's a causation there with. Sophie's not around much at the beginning of the season. The season's kind of whatever. And so Sophie shows up. This season's pretty good. She's changing people's names. You know?

Yeah. Her power. There's a name changer. Typify the two errors of this season, BSS and ASS, before Sophie S and after Sophie. Yeah. Well, you know, I was talking in previous episodes about how much I really enjoyed Nate, which, by the way, Nate on the jury, who was that man?

Oh, my gosh. I'd never seen that man in my life. Who had been in the beard? Yeah, you forget sometimes. because we don't usually see it because we don't have reunion shows anymore. But like, when these guys shave their beers, they can look like completely different people.

They can read through the game. And nobody would know that they had played previously. No, no. That was a crew member, a dream team or just standing in. We did see, Leanna, remember I talked last week about the fedora

that was mentioned so much at Ponderosa. That was the fedora. Yes. Was it a fedora at Ponderosa? Finally. Yeah. So, yeah, when I talk to people about like, who are you getting good vibes,

but there's a lot of talk about, like, this guy with the fedora, and he was just giving out some bad vibes, partially because of the... Fadoras coming back. 15 years ago, they would have been, like, everybody would have been, like, Target the guy wearing the fedora. I mean, they were sort of saying the same thing in that case. Oh, were they? Oh, okay, never mind. You know, uh, exactly.

Time in memoriam. Never wear a fedora when you're out there. That's the, wear literally any other hat. So he, did he have the fedora? I'm not forgetting. Did he wear the fedora into the game? No. So he had the fedora on the preseason.

And he wore the fedora the moment he got voted out. Yes. Wow. Interesting. Okay. I wonder if that's just like Ponderosa, Nate. You know, like there's a difference between sort of like vacation Stanley on the office of like, there's on island Nate and then there's Ponderosa Nate. And that guy puts the fedora on and he lights up the town.

All right. He's going dancing. Well, not to put a hat on a hat. But it's time that we get into one of our segments here on. the B&B, which is getting into our preseason predictions on MC. Leona, I'm really interested to hear your perspective on MC because, of course, you have this unorthodox situation with the alternates, the fact that when I talked with MC, she did not know that she was going to be part of the cast. I would also

say that, you know, in a series of interviews that I did that some of them on the longer side, you know, went for nearly 40 minutes. MCs, I only did like 15, 16 minutes with. So for some of them, it was maybe, I wouldn't say tough to pull things out of, but I think MC was very succinct into the point with why she was there and what she was planning to do. So what were you able to glean from that? And how did that inform how you thought she was going to do in this game? I just felt good vibes. Not to, not to get on Nate's bad side, but I just felt good vibes with MC. And I did have MC making the finale. So this one hurts a little bit.

I said that M.C. was brought in to the Strategy Sharks Alliance with Jason, Stephen, and Sophie on Hina. This group is shockingly able to retain power post-merge, getting out Alex and Nate before the tide start to turn. I got out, Nate. I know. Well, yeah, stupid Alex. MC, sensing the shift in power runs like a D-1 athlete as she throws her own alliance members under the bus out of self-preservation to regroup with the remaining members of Uli. This proves a strong strategic move, taking MC all the way to the finale. As we reach the final five, Sophie casts the deciding vote, sending MC to the jury,

deeming her a strong social threat and a lock to win. MC wins two individual immunity challenges and finds one idol, which she plays unnecessarily. Yeah, I was happy about that one. Her enemy is Sophie and her ally was Sophie. Not feeling at all. Wait, Sophie B and Sophie S? Yes, but because in our original podcast that we did, we had decided on Sophie as Sophie B and then Sophie as Sophie S.

So I kept that throughout all my predictions. So I'm trying to be as time capsully accurate as possible. I will also say mixed messaging in its finest CBS. Have you been seeing some social media posts or like the email newsletter that they send out to people? they use Blue Sophie instead of Sof. Yes. Do they? Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. But they did. They put SOF in the title sequence, didn't they? Like just. Yes. They did.

Again, mixed signals. What's going on here? Wow. I mean, I just liked them retroactively. Because it's not even like the internet has termed them blue Sophie. And you also have been like, oh, that's a great idea. This was one of the options presented last episode. They said, oh, we've been floating around a couple ideas.

We've got Sof. Sophie, we've got blue Sophie and yellow Sophie, like, this was something they could have gone with. Because didn't they call her, they did call her Purple Kelly, didn't they? Like, didn't Jeff say that? Because there was Kelly and Purple Kelly. Yeah. So I believe, if I remember

correctly, not to bring up a season that made you crash out, Purdyam, but I believe like Purple Kelly did say, like, oh, yeah, I'm Purple Kelly. Much like, I remember the first tribal council of South Pacific, Mark Anthony Cruz, it goes, Jeff, called me Papa Bear. So is it because, like, Sophie B didn't slay, she didn't, she didn't put herself out there saying,

I want to be blue Sophie and yellow Sophie and all that. So, colors of the rainbow. Okay. Yeah. All right. Blue Sophie. Well, I was, I was seeing, whether blue or yellow Sophie, I was seeing green flags with MC as well. I also had her making the finale.

Oh, there you go. And also finishing in fifth place. So due to both her unconventional start as an alternate. as well as her quieter personality compared to her Kina Tri members, MC is one of the most under-edited people in the pre-merge. However, that doesn't reflect how well-positioned MC actually is

in the game. As the biggest physical asset to the tribe, she's able to get in good with Jason and Sophie S as part of the Control Alt-Dleet Alliance. And she also nurses a side deal with Christina. MC's height and challenge prowess will literally stand tall

in the premurge, including at least a couple of Hina Hero moments that net them clutch victories. MC lies in a comfortable spot for the first half of the post-merge, but after spending the entire game being the brawn to Jason's brain, she decides the Heena body must rebel. She and Sophie take an alternate route to turn on their fellow alternate. With her game unintentionally exposed, all eyes are on MC.

Luckily, she kicks into beast mode just at the right time, kicking off a challenge win streak. Unfortunately, the personal trainer's survivor set ends prematurely in the finale. while MC and Stephen were forced into a marriage of convenience, he ultimately gets the last laugh for sabotaging the Hina majority when he beats her in one of her many must-win challenges. As so she goes out, filling the requisite role of fifth place biggest threat,

which I've decided to coin with the shorthand FPBT. I don't think that's going to catch on that, Mike. I'm so sorry. Wait, FP? Fifth place. Fifth place. fifth place biggest threat FPBT

FBT FBT baby Fibb That's great Oh man So I think I don't know where this is going This is less of a surprise than MC's boot

For any of make it official Yeah I think I'm going to give it to Leanna With her Picks I love that you said like Sophie With Sophie S would be her enemy Or something like that because it turned out that was kind of the roundabout way it ended up happening, especially with the idols unnecessarily using the idol.

And the fact that Mike just decided to tie you with the whole, she went the distance, didn't end up panning out. I was like, oh, if she'd, maybe if Mike had said she went out a little earlier in the merge, I would have been like, eh, that's pretty good. Yeah. But ultimately, you guys are both mostly at the nail in the head, for the most part, other than the fact that she went further, if she had survived this round and I think the Hina majority somehow either got Rizzo

out or it wasn't just such an unraveling of this majority alliance or at least half of the majority alliance I could see her going far still I could see her still going to that final five possibly but she didn't end up panning out that way it's funny because they showed in the

preview of the episode the first like recap of the episode she says when she plays her right all probably don't need to play this but I'm going to do anyway or something like that I'm like ah she's just like a lot of self-filling prophecy with MC's story in the post merge here.

There's this one, two, idle, uh, idle and then vote out. It was just very, uh, unfortunately serendipitous with how, it's like the opposite of what you would hope for. Yeah. It is interesting because I feel like maybe one of the reasons why I thought

MC would be longer for this game is I feel like out of the Hina's, we know the most about her and Stephen. And so I thought it was only logical of like, oh yeah, they're probably going to be loud. Now I think that Stephen is still like, I don't know, Stephen might go out next week for all we know,

considering how much of a surprise this was. But that's one reason why I, especially when also the previously on this was really odd to me had Sophie winning immunity that was so strange when it was like previously on Survivor Sophie wins immunity it's like why are we

emphasizing this? Yeah she's the main character Yeah I mean it was obviously because of the showdown right between Sophie and Savannah which is why they showed it that was like oh but I guess also part of the logic was like oh and she's a challenge beast hey did you guys

remember she's a challenge piece because she won that one challenge one time. It should be fair. Yeah, it did play into the narrative for like why they didn't vote her out, but they were, she even used that like, hey, call me a challenge piece. Let's just try to pretend to vote me out. So you're referencing that because that was a big part of the... Which again, I feel like it's an argument that people use so many times

that 90% of the time doesn't work. It's not worth it. But again, Rizzo and company are thinking a little differently and decide like, yeah, you know what? Actually, maybe she is such a big target that it's worth keeping her around. And then apparently like MC just had a better social game. She had a their web of social connections

with the other players that Savannah was feasting with so they're like how much is winning immunity challenges that big of a deal is it really a big and you're at the final 10 like you know yeah well and that was Rizzo's argument it was it was what he said she's not

the Terminator. I mean he also wanted by saying like Sophie came with everything Savannah won one and it's like it's got a little disparaging for one of your closest allies okay rude even And Savannah no one.

How many is he won? Yeah. How many did you win John Robare? You know? John Rizbear. That's so funny. Okay. Well, for today's game, we are going to tap in to Casuals Corner, which we have not looked

at here on the B&B since the preseason content. So I think that this is going to be pretty interesting. There were two key things actually I wanted to point out before we get into the game proper. The first is one of the absolute. comments with 324 likes on the Survivor Facebook page is to the

people calling Jeff, Uncle Jeff please stop. It's so creepy. It's giving creepy uncle vibes. The casuals hate Uncle Jeff. Really? That was only one of multiple comments of people being like, please stop calling him Uncle Jeff.

We do not like this. So, I just wanted to out there that that's with a casual stamp on this. I wonder if this is like the 49 version of fried chicken and waffles where like on the island they're like this is so much fun this is great this is our several this is one of our running bits and then like how many people will speak out after the fact being like I hated that uncle Jeff Nicknick it was so cringe versus how many of them are like no we were all doing it

together it was a fun thing that we did as 49ers I don't care I don't even care like I don't even think about I don't even notice it it's so fascinating to see what other people care about and get some all like their feathers ruffled I'm like, oh, I didn't even know they were doing that, okay. Yeah. I didn't know if John had an interesting he said, do you like me, Uncle Jeff?

And it's like, what? What? Wait, when did that happen? When they were drawing groups? He said, do you like me, Uncle Jeff? Yes. You like me. Oh, yeah.

Joanne's interesting. I'm fascinated by him. I don't actually. He's in a very vulnerable place considering he's like, I'm hurt that MC played her idol. Uncle Jay, do you like me? at all like is he in a worse

place than we thought he would be from a mental perspective? Oh, he just needs a group family therapy session. Savannah, Jorwan, they all just need to sit down and go through this, you know? It's rough. It's rough out there. Yeah, especially after all this with this whiplash, just make up for it.

Well, so the other thing that I wanted to point out is that specifically in this immunity challenge, the casuals latched on to the fact that Jeff said who will come on top instead of who will come out on top. And they reference

that several times. And what kind of show is this? And then a lot of like, hmm, kind of emoji. See, this show is real ones. Remember when Jeff Probes' Challenge commentary was filled with euphemisms. That's what got us through the dark ages of Survivor. So now we got a little bit of peek behind the curtain here. Yeah.

Okay. So let's get into the casuals corner game proper. So the way that I have structured this game is I've pulled comments from the Facebook page, the Survivor Facebook page, talking about one particular player, but I have blanked out that player's name. I've also changed the pronouns to be gender neutral because we're actually only pulling from the last 10 players of the game.

So these are only players who are currently active, MC included. So I'm going to read the comment and then it's up to you to fill in the blank. So Mike will go ahead and start with you. Your first comment is that was a sad moment for me really was rooting for blank. Okay, so talking through my logic here,

I mean, Occam's razor would determine it's MC because it's like, oh, it was really rooting for her, she went home. But I'm trying to think, like, did somebody else do something that really turned off this one particular person. I'm trying to think about, like, did someone do something? Like, maybe was it Savannah with the keys?

But again, she had this moment this episode where it made her maybe a little bit more sympathetic. Are these comments all in relation to the last episode? They're all about this. Yeah, exactly. Okay, then I'm just going to go with sad for MC. Okay, yes, that is correct. They, the casuals overall loved MC.

I saw very few, if any, negative comments about MC, they loved her. I mean, it makes sense, you know, very well-seeming, very good in the challenges, especially in the pre-merge, you know, team player in that speaking. Yeah, strong, like, athletic. I also felt like the way

she went out, didn't. It just, uh, it seemed a little random, and I don't feel like the show justified it very well, like the explanation. So I could see like when she got voted out, like, how did the, what? What? That's weird. It should have been Rizzo or Sophie. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh, okay. Number two, Paredium, this one's for you. I mean, dot, dot, dot. Blank is a child-sized 5T and wears a youth four in shoes. So it's not like the challenge was hard for them as it was for all the adult-sized contestants. I'm going to have to guess this is Savannah.

That was a... That's a, wow, they really went in on it. Not the adult-sized contestant. Wow. I can't believe the audacity to have a child to have a child compete with these fully grown adults. There was a moment when they were walking to tribal

and I was like, I said to Carol and I was like, man, it's really small. She's so tiny. She's really small. Are there comments of like, I can't believe Jeff Probst got his 15 year old niece on the show and now he's giving her advantages left and right.

No, but they did very much. And, you know, I mean, obviously we know that different challenges favor different body shapes and sizes and different skill sets. But for some reason, this particular challenge, they were like, that was rigged because it only favor is tiny people. You know what? Brendan Villegis would hate that challenge. That's a big brother deep gut. He's got that Neander tall feet.

Yeah. They've done this challenge. It's going way back in survivor history. Not every challenge is going to work out for literally every person. Here's what it is. how do you make it even between every single type of I guess you could size the pegs like a certain proportion of your foot size

I see like this is now you know 5% of your foot width I guess they do that with a high up maybe maybe they should just go extra extra just measure every toe every the heel I was going to say I know that they go rather intensive with these measurements do your toe rings make a difference you know

Does that help hurt you? Yeah. Oh, my God. Then, like, if, um, because you know how most people, like, their big toe is, like, longer? But like, if your other toes are longer, do you get certain advantages and, like, certain challenges? Yeah, exactly. In the water. It doesn't make, yeah, it doesn't make any sense. If you're more webbed, do you have to swim further?

Oh, okay. That's what they meant by voting M.C. Yeah. Oh, like, she has web toes. Oh, my God. Oh, but goes Madam Webb of it all. Yeah. Web toes, madam web, web of, uh, social relationship.

Oh, my God. All right, Mike, we're going back to you. Blank is a beast and one to watch. A little bit harder. Less descriptive than the last one. Yeah, this is incredibly descriptive. Thank you so much. I know exactly who this is.

Like is a beast. Okay. Yes. And one to watch. I mean, my best guess would be, so Beast is an umbrella term. I think absolutely so many qualities. Of course, a beast also from an animalistic perspective represent a wide variety of animalia. I would say that, you know, you could go with Sophie S that like she is a beast.

Yeah, hopefully not Mr. Beast. That was actually maybe Rizzo's giving the most Mr. Beast vibes, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So maybe Sophie S because she is good in the challenges, she did, you know, top it out with Savannah for quite some time. It could be like sage of like, oh, she's a. Beast. Like she's, you know, she's ferocious. I think

I'm going to go with Sophie S here because that, whenever I think Beast, I'm more thinking about the physical variation of the term. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That would have been my first guess as well. That is correct. Yes. Um, yeah, it's Sophie, not

SOF, so I am, and from context clues, maybe also assuming. So I'm going to go ahead and give that to you, but yes, it was Sophie. One of them. All right. Pretty, um, here is your next comment. Blank, thinking they made the greatest move ever voting Nate off was laughable. Dot, dot, dot, dot.

Ooh. Oh. Sage would call these people mean girls, considering how shady they've been to this cast. You know, I do recall at the top of the episode, there was one player in particular who was a little bit in the limelight for that. move. I'm going to say it might have been Jawan. Is that Joanne? That is correct. Yes. Yes, it was. He showed up in the night. I remember his night confessional and he was all giddy and excited about.

Yeah, he was like the biggest move of Survivor 49 so far. Which I don't think is wrong. To be fair, that was a big move. The secret would say differently. Was that the biggest bite or the biggest move? I guess technically moves also. Okay. Yeah, way do we move through the water? We give snake credit for that. Although I do think you can make an argument for Shannon maybe as being like the biggest boot of the season.

That was a big move too. Yeah. I think it's set up so much, right? Because like that was the first thing to really flagged to Sage and Jouan like, all right, go against Oolie. They flip back to Oolie in this vote. You know? Yeah.

That's what we're all about in Survivor. We've come full circle. We're back to the big moves. Yeah. All right. Mike, we're going to you. Blank is so adorable they way they looks at her

heart eye emoji heart eye emoji heart eyes emoji The way they look at her looks at her I'm reading verbatim Okay so who's given Goo Goo eyes to a female cast member here Okay so they're adorable

the way my best Go ahead Yeah Blank is so adorable they weigh they looks at her hard eyes emoji times three okay so my best guess

might be the way Rizzo looked at Savannah when she revealed that she had the advantage like he was so ecstatic about it and I think even further cemented his move to not play his idol so I'm going to say Rizzo here

okay unfortunately that is incorrect it was actually Stephen with the way that Stephen was looking at Savannah. Wow, we have the opposite read on that, don't we? I don't know.

Whoops. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. They shattered out branded a few hours later. I do not think Stephen was doing that. The way Stephen matched her energy, which is not met.

I was like, he's giving her like, okay. All right. I hear you. I hear you. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe they just think Stephen's cute. And it was just like, oh, it's so adorable how he pretends to listen. Um, okay.

Adorable. It's so adorable. Heart-E-E-E-M-W-G. Pridium, we're going back to you. Yeah. Blank got that dog in him. And I will spell dog as how it is written, which is D-A-W-G. Blank got that dog in him.

Got that dog. Yep. Mm-hmm. That's it. That's the thing. Yeah. Blank got that dog in him. So who's most likely to contain dog?

you know well it's a guy we're looking at I'm thinking I'm thinking my first thought is Rizzo with the Riz he's over there commanding the scene by the end of the episode I could see somebody saying that I see people online are stumping for Rizzo

this episode a good amount so I could see somebody giving him credit here especially the fact that he didn't play his idol when he had a firing squad in front of him or maybe not maybe they were holding like wet pool noodles

I don't know instead of anything Oh I'm talking about capital punishment You know Everybody hit by one of those things Ouch You know I would rather take that

But I'm gonna say Rizzo Just based on the fact that he didn't play his idol And that's maybe he's got his dog The dog on him from there The dog in him You were oh so close It's actually Riz God

Is it Riz God So it is his His alternate persona, it was, yep, you got to specify. R-I-Z-G-O-D-R-G-G-G-R-G-G-G-God, baby. The man, the myth, the legend. No, I will give that to you. Yes, yes, it was. I was trying to remember, does anyone say, has anyone said in Survivor,

you've got that dog in you? Because I feel like I've heard the phrase a lot on, like, Big Brother recently. Is it a relatively new phrase? I've never had somebody reach out to me asking to put a compilation. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. that dog in him. I feel like it had to have been said. I feel like I've heard that maybe, but maybe not. I mean,

it's just a phrase I've heard a bunch. So I don't know. Yeah. Okay. Well, Mike, when you're out there next time doing interviews,

like pre-season interviews, can you like subconsciously get them to start like thinking of that phrase? So then that way we see a whole season where people just drop out of that arm. I'm just going to say instead of get that, get the dog in you. I'm going to say get war dog in you. Who's got that war dog in you?

And then we can really see who set up for failure. Oh, no. I was talking about Rick Devin's here? Oh, he was an actual war dog. Anyway, that was the joke because he said that at the beginning of the season. Yeah, that I'm also called the war dog. Yeah, that's my awesome.

I wish they showed. Anyway. All right. Mike, we're going back to you here. Kind of hoping silence of the lambs blank wins. So who's giving silence of the lambs energy? Okay.

So it's like, you know, I feel like people might feel, and I don't feel this way, let me just provide that disclaimer. People might feel like Sage's energy is a lot and a little strange and not to completely compare to like Anthony Hopkins, Hannibal Lecter. I'm trying to think of like, who else has that energy? And I don't think anyone really does. I mean, maybe Joanne, Joanne the Sinophile might, but again, he doesn't really have that Silence of the Lambs type of vibe to him. he doesn't he hasn't got that moth in him so i guess i'll go with sage she's got that hannibal lector in her yeah that is correct oh wow i kind of hoping silence of the lamb sage wins what's just like one of the first comments i read to by the way was just like whoa

what are we getting ourselves into here yeah i would not make that connection personally but all right mike you've tied it up we're three three going into peridium's final question if you get this wrong we do go to a tiebreaker here is your comment pridium i call blank jabber jaws because they never shuts up there's really not any players this season i can honestly say i like wow don't love it don't anybody i remember other nicknames they had for the rest of the cats and they're so disparaging drop the rest of the it is. And by the way, yeah, it's Jabber J-A-B-B-E-R-J-A-W-S. Jabber J-A-W-S.

J-A-R-A-W-S. Okay. This is a player that never shuts up. Jabber Jaws. Fascinating. It's tough to say, like, it's easy. I feel like I can roll out a few people by virtue of them just not talking a lot. Like Christina.

Don't have to worry about her. I highly doubt that's her. If it is, then, you know, I just, I don't think that I'm going to win this point anyway. I doubt it's Stephen. I doubt it is I don't know. I feel like this could fit for a couple of people. I could see

going to Savannah because she talked a bunch this episode. I could see it going to maybe even Rizzo because he talked to big game, but I don't think it's Rizzo. Plus he already used Rizzo. A part of me wants to say it's like Alex just because he's talking a lot for some reason. But then he also wasn't in the second half

episode yeah so which was also i'd say a mark against the episode too when like on paper you are missing half your cast for the second half of the episode yeah i agree i agree also was like oh we missed all of alex and sof which would have been fun to watch christina's over there with an idol not involved what's that about that would have been really not even playing not even doing anything just sitting there like where did they're just sitting there for like 12 hours like where did Savannah go? Where did Savannah go? You didn't even just in there waiting and being like, well,

you know when somebody gets lost, you have to stay put because you know they'll come back and look for where we were right where they left us. They can't go back to camp. They have to stay there at the feast. Or sorry, the do-it-yourself sandwich bar. Yeah, they can feast on all the sandwiches and chocolate chip cookies they want. Can you read the

comment one more time? Yes. I call blank Jabber Jaws because they never shuts up. There's not really. really any players this season, I can honestly say I like. They never shut up.

Shut up. Never shuts up. They never shuts up. They never shuts up. I'm really stumped. I feel like I could pull from three or four different people. I think I'm going to get wrong. So I'm just going to go and say,

I'm going to say Savannah. That's wrong. was correct. Sophie. No, it was so, yeah, it was Sophie. Okay, I thought it could be Sophie. So she was like that. Okay.

I was gonna say you're not, you're cutting it literally in half frame. They should have actually done a split trouble twist where it's okay, everyone who's name begins with ass you're on one side and everyone else is on the other side. We got to get rid of one of them. There's like you guys now are making up a higher percentage. They are. They have one gone so far.

Are they need to delay? Yeah, there's five of them left, right? Sage, Sophie, Sophie, Savannah. Sage, Savannah and Stephen. Oh my gosh. Oh, and Stephen. Yeah. What if they all bonded over that and like the alphabet strategy comes back 49 seasons later?

Yeah. You know, like in honor of Sean from season one, we're going to weigh a band together as the S is and vote out Alex first. Uh-huh. And then Christina. You know? I mean, I believe. Who are the other two? Rizzo.

Rizzo. J and R. They're all. Essies are at the bottom of the alphabet. Mm-hmm. So the other four are above them in the pecking order. So. To be fair, it's a very bottom-heavy, alphabetically speaking, cast.

Like, there's a lot of ours, a lot of S's, a lot of Ns with Nate, MC. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I would love to see it. Okay, well, we are tied after going through our main level of questions. So we are going to go to our tiebreaker. This will be a buzz in.

So just shout out the answer. Got to throw a Hail Mary here. Do a Hail Mary. Okay, here's what I'm going to say, though, okay, is that this is not a current member of the cast. This is a former survivor player. Pull what you know about who the cash will talk about all the time as maybe a good starting place for your guesses. Okay. So if like, let's say Mike guesses first gets it wrong, Peridium will have a chance, but then it will go back to Mike.

okay that's and then it's going to be the first person we go we go back and forth until what if we never get it yep uh there's you know we'll go all the time in the world yeah you you'll get it you'll get it i mean if you guys don't i would be embarrassed honestly to be with you so okay here is your yeah it's like i never going to talk to again great okay so here is your comment unremarkable cast I bet blank is laughing their ass off

the unremarkable cast I bet blank is laughing their ass off yeah I'll buzz in first let's just go with the chalk pick Boston Robb that is correct I go for it I wouldn't have said him anyway Boston Robb what the heck does you have to do with anything

as we know Boston Robb watches every season They think he's still in that booth from Island of the idols just watching every tribal council. These people have ran free and these people's Seds. I don't get it. Yeah, no.

Boston, there's always a Boston Rob comment. Every single one, always a Boston Rob comment. And this season is absolutely no different. And I would say overall, they don't really like this cast very much. So I would say that that's,

I do you think this cast is a little bit more like negatively tinged almost? Like there's a lot more like mean commentary. But I don't mind it at all. I'm like, it's fine by me. but I do feel like I can see where they're coming from with their like the beef has been leading to these voteouts and also the people at the bottom are being painted negatively to an extent but they're also like the main characters I guess Rizzo is fine I think he's all right but like Savannah and you got the stage feud and then Sophie and I don't know I don't know it's an interesting dynamic compared to like last season which was a lot more like the Joe and Eva of it all and then you know Kyle was there and everyone was a little bit a little and shaheen was chicken of waffles and

everybody was sort of like and Mitch with this uplifting story and it's just like this this very positively tinged and Jeff's like I love this season and then 49's coming guys like hold on tight oh and 50's coming guys yeah yeah remember you get a spot on it maybe that's where they like uncle Jeff likes you is that why they keep calling him uncle Jeff maybe they're like aha I'm gonna get in his good graces so he brings me back for 50 Uncle Jay you're a part of my family I invite you for Thanksgiving. It may help each other, right? What if Jeff was like, no?

What if he's like, do you like me? He's like, no. He probably wouldn't. Could it be pranked you on? Tetering on no right now. He's like, you know, we're working on it. We're, you know, one vote at a time. Yeah.

We've already eliminated you for 50. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of what it's like. Sorry about it. Maybe they should do like the, the chocolate bar twist on drag race where after voted out, they sit down in their final words and then Jeff comes up to them with an envelope

and it says whether or not they've been picked for Survivor 50. Yes, yes, exactly. Oh, man. Well, congratulations, Mike. You did through tiebreaker win, but Pridium is a very valiant effort. It's all good.

You know, I was this close. Just hanging on. I'm also, I'm very curious if these Survivor casuals watch traders, you know? Because I think one of the appeals of bringing on a lot of these classic survivor characters was to be like,

hey, remember Boston, Rob? now he's on another show. Do you think they follow him over? I feel just by virtue of it being on a different network, no, like that's a lot. You know, like maybe if it was on NBC, they would have. Like, if it requires them having to get a subscription, that might not be. If it was on CBS, maybe they would or something. I don't know. Just again, based on the chitter chatter on the Facebook page, they talk about Australian Survivor significantly more than they talk about any other reality TV show.

I've seen a couple dancing with the stars mentions, but other than that, not nothing. And you would think for being the Boston Rob fans that they are, that they would. But maybe I just don't know. How do they feel about Jeremy Collins' controversial comment from a few weeks back? Do they talk about that at all? No, they don't, I don't think they have any idea. They just find out the Jeff's book is coming out. So I know about that now.

And they were like, okay, there was like a very tepid response. So we'll see. Yeah, I didn't order it. But, okay. You know, never behind seeing pictures. Well, listen. And people are not going to put their money towards Jeff's book. They can put their money towards another noble cause.

And that, of course, is whatever Puritium will highlight for us, as our guest is want to do here on the B&B. Now, you told us beforehand, Pridium, you've been on here a number of times. And you like to talk about the same charity each and every time, which is a very good one. So please, the floor is yours. I mean, I've brought it up a bunch since we've been on,

and I don't have any plans on changing. It's the charity I've actually volunteered for many times over. since I moved to where I currently live in 2017. It's also where I got my adorable, lovely third member of my family, which is my cat. And it's the SPCA. I always am like a docked-on shop,

which nobody in my family took and did. They all like bought their pets, which is awful. It's terrible. And I'm like, guys, my brother got a cat from like Russia or something. It's ridiculous. I know. He wanted a very specific breed. Oh, yeah. And to be fair, it's adorable.

And I don't hold it against the cat. but, you know, what are you going to do? It's like, I don't know. They got their SPCA's in rush so they can deal with it there. But I'm always like, hey, look, they are doing their best. When I got my cat, I still have pictures of her in her in a little tiny crate. He feels so sad. And volunteering there, it's like getting a pet adopted is one of the greatest feelings I've ever felt.

And I'm like, if I can just advocate for anything, there's lots of stuff out there. But animals do tend to get a little bit left to the wayside and thought of as more of an afterthought. and for me I've always loved animals I can't even I can't even kill bugs like I'm not even I can't even do that so I've just had this soft spot for them so for me I'm always like if you can adapt go out there in any way shape or form to help they will always appreciate it and that's what I recommend doing there's usually one wherever you are it's you know any any any shelter in the area of any city so SPCA all right well if you've got that dog or cat in you be sure to donate to the ASPC Yeah, right. If you got the talk. Pretty a fantastic time, as always. Thank you so much for coming on, you know, offering your perspectives too.

I agree. It was a very interesting episode to talk about both from the player perspective, from production perspective, and what this might mean moving forward. Of course, you are doing plenty of content on YouTube and even on RGP a little bit as well. What would you like to plug for the listeners out there? Just that I am always around making YouTube videos.

I talked to Mike yesterday actually about this, where we talked about The Amazing Race and Big Brother, and now we're talking about Survivor. So I've really hidden the trifle all the bases here in the last 24 hours. But just that I make YouTube videos every single week, you're going to get a Survivor video when Survivor's on, Big Brother video and Big Brother's on. If you're a fan of either, I advocate for both of them.

They're really fun. And I like to sort of create like a little bit of an appetizer, 15 minute video every single week before an episode talking about whatever. Could be something relevant to the season or something just abstracts and random, like me crashing out. about my time watching Survivor 15 years ago. You know, whatever is tips, you know, it makes me want to talk about the show for a bit.

And hopefully you guys are interested. I've been doing it for eight years. I'm actually almost at, I think, 500 videos, which is wild. And I've never missed a week. And I don't know when I will. At this point, I'm just doing it for this, that simple fact alone. So, but yeah, that's what I'm up to.

So really, just go to YouTube, look for my name at the bottom. And you'll be able to start watching. All right. Liana, how's the pal going this week? Powell's going well. We had a little bit of an earlier record. I had to do an impromptu work trip this past week, so things were a little bit crazy.

We had a very in-depth discussion about drying your hands. So, you know, we're really covering some hip-top. Leanna, I love you. That is the worst promotion for a podcast I've ever heard in my life. It made me more interested because I'm like, what did you talk about? I want to know what that turned into. I've heard Puya talk about things and stuff.

And it's an interesting conversation. It's a very Seinfeld. Yes. Yes, it is. Yeah, it really is the podcast about nothing. So, yeah, go on, check that out. And then, yeah, that's it. That's it.

All right. Well, you can check out my interview with MC. I mentioned it a couple times and lots of tidbits shared by MC, specifically towards what we did not see during her couple of weeks on the island. Really great conversation with her. Certainly has sparked a bit of conversation, especially around the concept of race, possibly being involved. And again, the worrying, let, yet like, inexplicable trend

of black people going home at a split tribal, which is just a wild thing that continues to happen. Amazing race, still happening. I mean, yeah, Peridium got the chance to talk with me this week about the Amazing Race. For those that don't know, Peridium is like an OG Amazing Race fanboy. And so we got the chance to talk about his thoughts on the race, his thoughts on this Big Brother-filled season of The Amazing Race,

considering how much you work in the Big Brother space as well. Do you want to give a brief tease about that? Have you been liking the season so far? Yeah, I saw the podcast went up. I've liked the season. It's been fun. I mean, if you're a fan of Big Brother, I would totally reckon. It's, you know, if you're watching this at this point, you're a fan of Survivor, I have to imagine.

But if you like Big Brother, this is a very good, I think it's a pretty good season to watch Big Brother players race around the world. And especially for the last like five years of Big Brother or so, it's pretty good. And I was like, we should get a survivor version of this. I would love why, if Big Brother is going to get. get a season of the amazing race. Survivor should totally get a season of the amazing race. Why, like if anything,

I think there's a deeper well to pull from there. So should they do a round Robin where it's big brother players go on amazing race. We have amazing race people on Survivor and then Survivor people on Big. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely.

Why not? A little like scramble verse season. There's a reason these people get cast on reality TV and I'm down for it. I don't know. Mm-hmm. And last thing I will plug is that, uh, you mentioned the casuals talking. about dancing with the stars.

I got to talk about it because I unintentionally stirred up a lot of drama between Tom Versheron and Bobby Bones. I don't know how this keeps happening. If you want to figure out what the hell that all means, be sure to check out the reality flash because

yeah, it's been a weird week. It's been a wild week and a weird week. So if you want to find out the context behind that, feel free to check that out. And of course, if you have any game ideas, do you have anything you want to send us, please do not hesitate to do so RHPBNB at gmail.com or hashtag RHAPBNB on social media. We are getting towards the final month of the game, basically.

And so any and all game ideas would be incredibly appreciated. I'm very intrigued to see where this goes from here. If indeed MC was one of the most well-connected people from the quote-unquote majority, this could crack things wide open. And so we'll see who ends up, you know, ensuing from that crack with maybe a bit of a at least a block of people to hold for the foreseeable future. No matter what happens,

Leaude and I will be back next week breaking it all down. Special thanks to the entire team behind the scenes at RHAP for packaging this podcast for your eyes and your ears and well from America for his fantastic theme song. We'll be back next week covering episode nine in all the dramatic fallout from the split tribal at Survivor 49.

Until next time, everybody, we'll check you out at your next day. playing some games. You gotta pray to your mama that they're not to play. And if that all sounds cool, I can tell you the name. It's the R-H-A-P-B-M-B-M-B-M-E. Mike and the Anna, gotta play in some games. Let a pray to your mama that they're not super-lane.

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