RHAP: We Know Survivor - Pooya and Dwight Moore on The Survivor 48 B&B Ep 8

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

This week, Liana is joined by Pooya and Dwight Moore to discuss Survivor 48 Episode 8.

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Sorry, today is already off the rails because we had an issue with starting recording, but doesn't matter. We are here now to talk about Survivor Season 48 Episode 8 in what was an episode of Survivor. Now you're hearing my voice, Leona Boris, here as your host. I am solo-dolo running this B&B, and it is going to be a mess without Mike Blum, but he is busy, but we'll don't worry, be back next week. I have brought together the most illustrious panel to help me handle this wild episode. First, let me welcome in my partner on the

Puyia and Leanna Lounge and my partner in life, Puyia Zanvakili. Puyia, how are you? I'm doing good. I'm very excited to be here. I'm happy you thought of me and your other guest as a great duo to be featured here because we are truly a great duo. That's the thing. This season. Totally inspired by duos. That's who's running the show. And I could not think of a better duo. I mean, obviously apart from me, but another human whose sole goal it is, along with myself, to annoy you.

We are doing during Goose Goose Duck Streams. But everybody else probably knows him from Survivor 43. It is Dwight Moore. Dwight, how are you? I'm doing great. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you guys for letting me be here on this podcast with you to annoy Pooja as well. Cause like I said, it's a full time job annoying him. It brings me a lot of joy to do so.

So thank you for being with me, I'm impressed for that. Of course. Now I appreciate that you coming in on another day to do another shift of annoying Pooja. Yeah, gladly. Listen, you can call me in any time. I'll gladly take that shift. Okay, beautiful. Well, Dwight in any time. I'll gladly take that shift. OK, beautiful.

Well, Dwight, I do want to start with you because we have not heard your thoughts on this season as a whole, and obviously we'll get into this episode proper. But how are you feeling about Survivor 48 so far? Um, mixed opinions, like I said, I love the cast cast like they're amazing. But right now with the gameplay is kind of like this is from, you know, I am biased. I am more of the strategist type of player. So I'm like, OK, well, how would I see myself doing here?

I'm like when a lot of when the group has like a big group kind of saying, yeah, we are this strong alliance now and sorry to the rest of you, but you're getting bullied out. It's like, well, they like words that room for maneuvering. Right. We have someone like on my season, a similar stint with the seven. Right. That we had for a little bit. And I fell apart in like an episode or two. So I'm curious to see where it falls apart here.

And that can like really spark the gameplay going there. But I could see, like I said, every everyone when you go out there, you want to play, you want to win. And if the way for you to win is to create this dominant, quote, unquote, boring alliance that gives you power. I mean, I don't fault the players for doing that at all. Like that. It works for them. It just makes it hard to see where where where the game is going.

Right. Is it going to be strong lines, not me for a while? Because I think it could be these these people see to it. I mean, they could stick this five and write it for a long time. And other groups, you see like where the cracks to come this one. I feel like they could write out for a while. So I'm intrigued to see where this goes in the future. For sure. Yeah. And we are apart from doubting Dwight's strategic abilities.

What what are your thoughts on this? Did you see the look he gave you, Dwight, when you were like, I'm a strategic player. I thought I wasn't going to acknowledge it. I'm not going to acknowledge his face there. I didn't say anything. You said you're more of a strategic player. And my only thought was, where was it? Did I see it? I don't know. Anyway. Over already. OK, yeah, go ahead.

Speak. Speak. What was the question? I completely forgot. What are your thoughts on Survivor 48? OK, so here's the thing. I remember when the season started, OK, I'm loving this cast. I like what I'm seeing. There were a lot of players like I liked everybody at one point, which made the Tribals be brutal for me.

Now, I think it is very interesting that this group has come together. And I think, you know, I also am somebody who, yes, the strategy intrigues me. I'm more of a, I enjoy the social element of the game. And I think an alliance like this and the way David specifically wants to play the game is devoid of strategy or social game. It's like, okay, I got my social fill. I locked my group of five. That's what we're doing. Nothing else matters, which then naturally is going to get some outrage from the audience and naturally is going to get outraged from the players, not in yours, quote unquote, strong five, which what a name.

What a what a creative name. Love, love. Five is, I mean, strong five sounds like a protein shake to me. Yeah, Dwight would know. Ask him. I anyway, ignoring that comment there, I want to do one touch on. You mentioned David in that strong five thing. I mean, the interesting thing about that is David very publicly brought in Mary, who's not in the strong five

and said, yeah, she's with us now. So honestly, he's kind of doing more than the rest of the strong five in some capacity, right? At least to say like, oh, the strong five plus my plus one. No one else can add theirs. So like he's allowed. He's allowed to make it a strong five, which, by the way, if I'm bringing in somebody, I want to rebrand it.

Not being like strong five plus Mary. Mary, not strong five, not established as a strong person. Say strong six. Right. But then that's always such if you can't use numbers, you can never use the numbers in alliance names. Absolutely, brother lesson to be learned by everybody. Yeah, yeah. But okay, but I think to go back to sort of a combination

of the points that the two of you made, I think that that big strong alliance, like that is a strategic decision. And everything that David did was a strategic decision, whether or not it was a good strategic decision, because I don't hate on David for thinking like, look, this is my most optimal path to the end, which is to get the big guys together.

I think for me, where a lot of the thorns and prickliness start to come in is how he delivers that information. The social game that was not there. Exactly. Which goes into the comments about I think David just, you know, ruined his chances with jury management. I think that's what Camilla says that, you know, you really have to be cautious about how you manage the jury,

because in the same way that Chrissy should be allowed to say, look, we misfits, or, you know, whatever need to get together. Then David can also say, yeah, okay, but I'll spit guys need to get together. Instead of it then being like this almost judgment towards Chrissy for like, how dare you target us? So you're going to take this from us. You're going to take this from us. This is ours. This our season.

It's our turn. Yeah, we deserve this. Right. Like that is so bad for so long. Right. They deserve. Yeah. We just say, yeah, exactly. These weaklings have been winning for so long. It's our bad for so long, right? They just. Yeah. We just say, yeah, exactly. These weaklings have been winning for so long. It's our turn to write. No, but it's it's so intriguing to me because like, you know, various cast have different expectations when they cast season, right?

And this season, even when it got announced, we're saying this was like a more athletic cast, a quote of a bigger cast. So and we see it playing out now, like a lot of these bigger guys made it to the merge phase and they all immediately thought like, was that what passing intended? Possibly because, you know, the cast with an idea in mind when they have they have the whole the whole puzzle put together. Right. And every single one of these big guys making it to the merge stage.

And I mean, it played out kind of as you would expect, I guess. They all kind of linked up there. No one has the let's take each other out. They all this kind of collaborative like, well, we've seen recently since none of the quote unquote, bigger guys have won the new era in a while. Why don't we just make it happen? So, like I said, from their perspective, I get it. It makes sense. It is a sound strategic move from them.

But it's just if you all get to the end, you set yourself apart to win. And I think David is setting himself apart to lose the way he's handling everyone else. Right. Like every other person in the strong five, in my opinion, is better just winning a day. So I don't see David really doing well with the other people at the moment. But who knows what we don't see. Right. But what they're showing us at the very least is he is torching his chances of winning at the moment. That's the same feeling I had last night, which was, okay, so the way you're playing the game,

we'll get a quote unquote strong person to win. That's gonna happen if it follows the way it has been. The issue is you have now made sure that you are the one person from your strong five that is not gonna win sitting next to any combination of your other strong five. Like I just don't see it for him. I think that carrying yourself,

and I think this was my biggest issue, and Liana, you touched on this. It isn't the decision to, you know, band all the strong people together. It isn't the decision to take out every other person and lock it in. Because as much as it can make a boring season when it's a steam roll, if you can make it happen, it's beneficial to your game.

It's the way in which he went about it. It was very much, you're taking no one else's thoughts into it. You have no empathy for anybody else. Your game matters. No one else's matters, which obviously you got to play the game selfishly. You got to play for you more than anybody else. But you got to understand that everyone here is doing the same thing. You can't punish people for having opinions.

And it really felt like a tribal and a little bit before tribal. It was a, oh, you don't think this way. I'm gonna punish you for it. I'm going to verbally take you down, which was unnecessary. I'm sorry. Yes. And you don't see that kind of banter like that tribal in the new era, because like shot in the dark is always a thing.

You kind of have to like keep it low key. Like tribal council is is a dance. You know, you have to figure out what you can say, what you can say. Took the nation to the office and we're fighting. Put on the boxing gloves. I'm like, what are we doing? They're just letting it rip. So it's so intriguing to me how they're playing this even.

But like that that part was kind of hanging me like, OK, you're just no pretence at all tribal. Just say what's on your mind. Go for it. Chrissy did that the last two tribal. I'm like, please stop. But oh, my gosh. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing is that Chrissy. So, OK, like a thousand. OK, so just talk about Chrissy for a second like Chrissy.

I mean, last week we had talked about this where I was like, what Chrissy? So, OK, like a thousand thoughts. OK, so just talk about Chrissy for a second like Chrissy. I mean, last week we had talked about this where I was like, what Chrissy? Girl, what are you doing? And we see her come back and she's like, you guys know that's I'm just playing. I wouldn't even. And it's like, OK, but you're still thinking those things. So even if you are, let's say, being genuine, which probably she's not, it's still like such a red flag. And then she continues to go on and do it here.

I mean, obviously, I was Camilla survives, but almost sometimes it feels like this is not a consequence of you and your allies is a consequence of Chrissy like lighting her own game on fire. Yeah. And I'm very curious as to what we didn't see, like because I can imagine she brought that on the island before tribal to like she had to brought the energy before trying to flip a boat. So I'm curious why we didn't see too much of that. We just saw a lot of the decision going into tribal between the big group,

but not so much of Chrissy, I guess, fighting for her life in the game. I'm not sure if she knew the writing like she plays on the dark. So I'm not sure how much of the writing was on the wall, but it seemed like she kind of knew the writing was on the wall, given how she was going at swinging and tribal. So let's do another act. Yeah, everyone was on in on. Well, I saw in her exit, she mentioned that

she didn't know there was a Camilla plan. She was a cow told Camilla. So Camilla had an inkling to do something different. I thought I was done. So I just kind of put everything out there. But I do like the idea that especially starting this lot, this episode, Camilla had an inkling to do something different. I thought I was done. So I just kind of put everything out there. But I do like the idea that, especially starting this episode,

they're coming back and she's trying to play it off like, it's just banter, you know, I'm just smack talking. This is what I do. You know, we're just kind of talking shit for the sake of it. That wasn't anything serious. And then by the end of this drama, she's like, nah, you need to let Joe go.

He's so strong. He needs to leave. We need to stop kumbaya-ing. I was like, Nah, you need to let Joe go. He's so strong. He needs to leave. We need to stop Kumbaya. I was like, OK, well, now it's just like you're doubling that. There's no longer smack talk. This is your feeling being lively portrayed. But then I don't know why Chrissy didn't play her shot in the dark, though, then. Right. Like, that's kind of the weird thing. I'm just like, I love the idea, though, of Chrissy sort of just like

scrambling in the background while David is berating Kyle for not wanting to vote at Camilla. There's this whole B plot going on that we just didn't get to see at all. But I mean, that's the other thing. How did we go from, I mean, what the editing told us obviously was this very intense discussion between the, I guess, the six, because we'll include Marion there, so the strong strong six to them being a nine one vote. Right. Like that to me is also the most shocking that we didn't really get to see. And I know that I know I know I get it. They want to make it exciting. But still, like no one broke suit.

They all ended up falling in line. I mean, yeah, I mean, part of it, I think, is because of and we'll get into that. Star losing her vote kind of stifles any possibility of an uprising. Right. Because if you have everybody there, you just you just want to flip. And now you would need possibly to the flip. And he's like, it's just it makes things so difficult, especially when. And this shocked me. And I texted I think I was thinking, Jesse, about this, too,

when we saw it happen on the episode of the group of like five of them just on the beach. If you see that, you're just like, OK, like, what do we do? Like you just see a massive group doesn't give a care. And we're just saying we're running this game. We're going to have a group huddle on the beach itself. That never happened for us. Like, what do you mean you're huddling in public?

Like, don't have your two persons, three first conversations. Five people on a trial with nine people voting is absurd to me. Getting away with that in that notion of dark was played like that beyond me. Yeah. But yeah, I think that just like the loss of votes stifles any kind of play from the minority in that. Yeah. Well, and loud like the group, the group on the beach, loudly arguing as well. And that's the thing is, is that we see David not only misplay to the people outside of his alliance, but I also feel like

misplaying within his own alliance of being so like willing to so browbeat his point that was like, no, this is what has to happen. Now, obviously, to his credit and Mary's credit, they pick up, right? Okay, well, why does Kyle want to keep Camilla so bad? So it is revealing some relationships throughout this, but it just feels like there's a more subtle way to go about getting that information. A lot more subtlety could have been taken on both sides. I think like, yes, David kind of pushing for the vote on Camilla, but also and I said what they showed, don't know. But Kyle's argument to keep Camilla, he didn't seem to provide anything besides like not Camilla.

I'm just like, give us like a lot of logical change to follow. Like, why do we need to, you know, take out you want Christian Stead, right? Like follow that chain of logic. Don't just say, well, just not Camilla, you know, like you've got to make it make it believable and not that you're defending someone. Make it like you're attacking someone else. He tried a little by implying that, well, Camilla has been voting the same way we have

been voting the last little bit. And David at that point correctly is like, well, we don't need that. We have our numbers. We don't need more. So what? Checkmate. What do you want? What else?

But I do think it's funny to me because I clearly remember last week Camilla being the one kind of inceptioning David about Shaheen and be like, I think he has an idol, just FYI. So if they're aligned, David, why would she tell you her ally has an idol? Make that part make sense. Because she's at the very least doing the double dip, but you're getting information on people you might want. Unless there's something we didn't see where he's like, you know what? I don't care.

Shaheen has an idol or not. I'm working's like, you know what? I don't care. Shaheen has the idol or not. I'm working with him. I like him. I'm, I don't care. Camilla needs to leave because no one else can have a plus one, but me. I think that's the other thing we're seeing here is I don't think day. I think David likes the idea of getting to the final six. And then I guess likens his odds of navigating from six forward with himself, Mary and who, who's

his third? If he's trying to have at least three at six, that's the question I have. Because I feel like if anything, you just push the other four together now moving forward. Yeah. Cause what Joe in his theoretical world would be Joe and Eva who that's never not. Yeah. And that means Kyle and trying, right? Yeah. And I feel like it's got to eventually get out that, you know, David is going after Camilla, which in his world would push in a way. So, you know, it's. I'm intrigued by the long term thought processes here. So I think there's a universe where where David wanted out Shaheen.

So I think that that's actually a very real possibility, because at the reward, when it is Eva, Joe Shaheen or Eva, Joe, David and Mary, David goes. Or maybe it was Mary who I mean, regardless, they brought up. Best friends now. Yeah. So David and Mary, whomever brought it up between the two of them, like, hey, so how do you feel about Shaheen? An immediate pushback from Joe. Joe goes, he's never been nothing but loyal to me. And I feel like that stopped any movement on Shaheen

in its tracks. So David ended up choosing potentially what he thought was the next best option, which was Camilla based on the fact that Shaheen chose Camilla. But Puiya, to your point about the whole idol situation, it wasn't like Camilla chose Shaheen that Shaheen chose Camilla. But Pooja, to your point about the whole idol situation, it wasn't like Camilla chose Shaheen. Shaheen's clearly the one going for her, and then Camilla's funneling you that information. So if you think like the next level, that could still be advantageous to you, right?

So yeah, it was just a questionable set of decisions that were made, I think, by David in this episode. But to go back, Dwight, to what you mentioned in terms of the losing the boat. Ah, another reason why solely in the game, why are we doing the losing the boat thing? And I'm talking to two Twitch streamers who I'm sure are very familiar with Mario Party and how essentially the game that they played on the journey was the same as a Mario Party game for you.

It was. It's a fun game. It's a very fun game. It's not as fun when it's like, all right, first to get all three loses their vote, which means no one's going to care to do anything. Like Camilla makes the right choice of like, well, I'm not losing my vote here. Stars going to effort. Let's just end it. I don't want to think beyond that completely. Yes. Like what I have to do, I'm making a Mario Party comparison.

But like at least in Mario Party, you're playing to win the game. Right. Like there's a goal of you. It's not like get make the first person loses to win. And I'm not standing. Yeah. This does this game design. I'm not sure how well it works with the first person out. Just loses because like Camilla made the right call. Don't extend the game when you can just take out a person right there.

Like first person get a ball at that point. Yeah. Dump it on that person. Cool. Whatever. Also, there's some kind of way to shift the order would be like because, yeah, Camilla's forced to target star in this configuration. There's a way to change the order sometime during the game. And they did. That'd be nice. I'm a lot of things going into what I was thinking when I saw that,

the like doesn't seem like the most balanced journey, especially in the first person lose only loses format. But yeah, also just the concept of. Not before we won the challenge means you lose, but I still don't like that, you know, and like a great guy is exacerbated this season because the strong alliance happens to be the people who aren't going to lose their own anyways, and like, I guess exacerbated this season because the strong alliance happens to be the people who aren't going to lose their anyways. So the issue is exacerbated for this season.

But just in general, OK, I'm not just like a strong alive, like whatever. Like, I don't care. Like, just in general, I don't like the concept of you lose your say in this game because you're bad at a challenge. That's not what Survivor has been for so long. I don't like that. It's becoming that now. That's not like if you lose your vote, it should be like on like you go on a journey, you chose to risk it.

Like I when I lost my vote, I chose to put that risk happen. I made that like that is my fault. I lost a game of luck. These people happen to lose a challenge that was decided far in advance that day, you know, going to be good at it or not. And you just are against these absolute freak athletes. So, you know, it's, it's, I don't know, it's not, not the same survivor concept that like that I grew up watching. Right.

Yeah, like not for nothing. I guess the one part of the, the entire round they had a choice was who they were going to pair up with. Right. But even then I still also don't love that we're in the individual portion of the game. And while I didn't recognize any one weak link causing the pair to lose, I don't like that you're having me saddle my game with somebody else for this challenge where either I could cost them the opportunity to win individual immunity or they cost me the opportunity to win individual immunity. And then I lose my vote. If there was a stronger person in a pair and they're the one who loses their vote, that would feel pretty annoying. And also we're 10 people. Let's just have 10 people

vote. What's wrong with that? What's so wrong with 10 people voting and anybody could leave? I feel like, obviously, the new era narrative is where it's a 26-day game, but it's going to be more grueling, more unpredictable, and a lot more chaos is going to happen, which is Mario Party to Monopoly, where Monopoly is relatively straightforward. You roll the dice, you go forward, you pay the rent, you go to jail, whatever. Now it's like, Mario Party is that, but also you can lose coins at this space. There's a question mark space. There's a surprise mini game.

There's a battle mini game. And it's a lot. It ends up making it where the skill factor has somehow minimized a little and the luck factor has gone up a lot. Not that there hasn't always been luck involved with playing any reality TV show, obviously. But I almost feel like there's too much luck factor. But then you look at the other side of the spectrum, y'all, where we have the four people who get to reward and they have name tags in front of their Chipples and Eva not only

wins immunity, but has also handed a special advantage. Now I understand that you're giving it to the person who want immunity because the odds of them going home is zero that night. They ain't going anywhere. You can get this to us to play out. But at what point can we look at it and be like, shall we just be rewarding the winners with everything? Or do you want it to be a little more, you know, give me the blue shell more.

If first place gets blue shell, what's the point? Get the blue shell out to that. We're like all over the Mario escape on this. You want Mario Party or do you not want Mario Party? I'm Mario. Mario. Cart now. We're sorry. Right now.

Sorry. Get your games right. OK. Look, it's it's just it is really chaotic. I mean, I think like, again, I don't inherently mind the pairs. Like that to me doesn't, that doesn't bother me because I also, I like being able to see like who's gonna pick who

and how they end up deciding, separating that. So that I don't mind. To me, it's really the losing the vote situation, which goes back to what Dwight mentioned like early in the podcast, which is it stifles the ability of the group to make a move. And so I think that and also for some reason, prevent star from getting any gosh darn screen time when she's so funny and so entertaining.

She is literally a star. Speaking of Mario Party Mario Kart, right? Like, I miss her. It's just absurd. Yeah. Yeah. Like the concept of the immunity when I get in the event, like I. Yeah, they want that twist to play out. I get it.

But it's like, does that immunity winner need it? Like, do they do they like? I don't know. Do we know what it's going to be? I know. Just go find the fire. I presume it's a night because at this point, the only island play is the title. Right. Is that the only I will currently apply? Well, yes, yes.

So they're going to introduce a second one to unless and I imagine they're searching for it, I presume people are there because there has to be a merge. I don't know. But like there's only one island game currently. There's probably someone hit on the beach somewhere. Maybe no one found it. They said, screw it. Put in the game this way. So I can really see even if they if having two idols for a while, which I will, I will give her credit for keeping us from secret. I'm not telling anybody recognizing like everything else about my game

is public right now. My idol is public. Must be secret credit to Eva for that. A hundred percent. Cause that as you should, like if you can afford to not tell anyone something, go for it because and this has been talked about a lot, but I see always online the concept of why do people in new era talk about their idols like pre-emerge idols are designed to be talked about. No people like is losing your vote is a task that sometimes it can be hard to do by yourself. You can do it. But still, people will figure it out.

I think like hurting back my season because I think I'm most car like. Oh, were you on Survivor? No, no, I wasn't actually. You think I'm most car like. Were you on Survivor? No, no, I wasn't actually. You wouldn't tell me. I mean, would you want to know? But yeah, Carla on my season, like she did the beads all by herself. Right. That half was well done. No one on her tribe knew that she even did it.

Then we hit the merge and people find out quickly. Oh, the beads. Oh, yeah. Carla has that like she did on her own so well, but it still becomes public knowledge pretty soon. So finding like people are not cool. know if people know it's cool. Post-merge idols, you can find those. Keep it to yourself. Tell no one. And even that what you should do with this, which is keep that shit to yourself. So I'm very proud of her for doing that.

And hopefully if it is an idol, it feels like another man. Don't keep to yourself. Cool. But as long as she keeps herself, I'll be super, super proud of her in that regard. If you tell anybody, then I'll be like, you had a secret you could have kept. Why? Maybe, yeah, maybe there's a chance for her to keep something from Joe, you know, maybe. Wait until the game's a part. But I'm not sure right now who, between those two, who was really standing out in terms

of like a potential jury vote down the line. My parents have had a lot of time on their hands lately. At first, it was nice. Hey mom, can you drive me to soccer practice? Sure can. We're having slow cooked ribs for dinner. It was awesome. And then it became a lot. Some friends are coming over to watch a movie. Oh, what are we watching? I'll make some popcorn. Thanks to Voila, they can order all our fresh favorites from Sobeez, Farmboy, and Longos online, which is super reliable. And now my parents are reliable, a little too reliable.

Voila, your groceries delivered just like that. Just to recap on terms of the advantages, I think that Eva's idol is the only thing that's out there because Mitch has already used his block of vote. So I think that's it. I think that's the only advantage that's out there. So, yes, survivor producers, they got to be Jones. And then I give them something else. And I just leave.

I mean, could you imagine Eva with two idols? That would be that's a lot of power at final nine. Nine. Final nine. Yeah. And clearly has the ability to win challenges, too. So that's you get a majority alliance. Yeah. And clearly has the ability to win challenges, too. So that's you can just end in a majority alliance. Yeah. Mm hmm. It is very important. You can guarantee yourself like the end game.

So we'll see. And that's the thing, too. Like we're it's funny because we technically like just got to merge or whatever. But you have to start looking at that end game. And I think that that was a lot of Camilla's confessionals and Kyle's confessionals now starting to think like, Guy is like, great, the strong five is fantastic, but there's no way we can ride this to the end. And Camilla's not even a part of it, right?

So obviously from her perspective, she's like, we have to now start utilizing these people on the outs. And I'm just so, if this power swings too far towards this sort of like strong five alliance, you know, how much can the other side do? And like, is it too late to dismantle that as we move into the final part of the game? Who are people going to start to think they want to sit next to? Right. I mean, even within the integrity alliance, the strong five, like, who are they even thinking that they want to sit next to?

Which goes back to the conversation we had about, OK, David takes Mary and question mark. Right. Like, who is that other person? Is it Kyle? Maybe does he think he can beat Kyle? Maybe Eva is someone who they think they can say like, oh, Joe made all the decisions or something like that, because Joe seems to at least socially have a lot of say sway in this group because and that also goes to the approach of when they were trying to convince, OK, who should we get out tonight? It was like Kyle kind of freaking out, David freaking out.

And then Joe just trying to stay like calm in the middle, just calm, cool, collected, trying to drive everything. Right. I imagine that Joe, you have to perceive Joe as this, you know, beast to win. Chrissy was on to something. Yeah, for sure. I did like when they were picking partners, Joe's gonna call up me like, no, no, no, we're picking,

we're not gonna do anything random, we're gonna force you to be uncomfortable. And that's very clever, to see people show their cards, which Cheyenne did immediately, show his card immediately, like show it to me. I was like, that is a savvy move there,

under the guise of, let's be like, we're gonna send someone home anyways, might as well hurt some feelings. I liked that a lot. Then I was like the Joe even things seems to be so cemented, so public. It's not even a harm to him to just publicly choose Eva. Right. That's something that everyone knows and doesn't even hear.

It's a thing. So it's a while that he's getting away with that while other people are getting like Camilla and trying to get charged for being a possible duo. When no one gives a damn that Joe and Eva are just like, yeah, I'm never betraying this person I met like 10 days ago. I said that to Puyo when we were watching the episode or the next day or something, I was like, you know what? It's actually incredibly advantageous that the Eva and Joe relationship

is just out there because no one's going to question it. They're just like, look, those two are pair. We know. So it's almost like, OK, do you want to play against the devil? You know, or the devil, you don't know if you don't know where all the cards are. That's more dangerous than, okay, look, I know these two are a pair. Great. I can work around that. I have that information. I don't know who Shaheen's closest ally is. I don't know who Kyle's closest ally is. Right. And so you're gathering more information. And then that pops up as a bigger threat because it's not so blatantly telegraphed in front of everybody.

So it's funny because that, you know, the whole big moment that Joe and Eva had, it's like, oh, that put a target on the back. But did it really? Yeah, now it's like it's comparable to like a blood versus water. Like you have a loved one's pair at the margin. It's like if I target one, I just get the ire of the other for probably the rest of the game. So I want to just ride with these two votes that are going to be in lockstep because that's, you know, less variance there. So like that really now this is they made this point and aren't getting targeted. It's really helped them a lot. And, you know, even now has a public

idol too, which is another thing, which is why you don't target them. So it was like the public duo have a public title. Like, what do you do? And are so clearly insulated that even if you thought about wanting to do it, you can't. Like if they were to a pair known on the outs, okay, yeah, they're definitely getting separated. But who are you going to talk to to get one or the other? Like it's very slim pickings out there. I also think the thing I like about Joe, where Joe is positioned aside from the fact that he clearly does have some control is you have someone like Christie now for two rounds in a row is also now on the jury

is saying Joe is the figurehead. Joe is the main, which that is your tiebreaker right there. Joe is getting all this perception, which is going to be nine-tenths of the reality, and using that perception, he can also control the game. And basically, even if he wasn't at top, self-fulfilling prophecy land on top, which I think is a great spot for him to be in. It's almost like he didn't have to do much to get what he wanted this time around. Whereas you saw Kyle doing the most to try and get what he wanted. It looked like Joe just kind of nodded, even gave in to David

and then still got the outcome he desired by the end of it, which is a great spot for him to be in. I need to know how he did it. I want to I want to know. I want to see those conversations. Maybe because maybe he was like, look, I know I said I can fight a gorilla. OK, do you really want me to fight you in this moment? Kylie, hear your hyena theory, but I don't think that that's true.

I don't stand by that. Um, another really ridiculous thing that we absolutely have to talk about and we were texting about last night when we watched the episode is the jury bench. Oh, my God. Please. OK. What? I was like, I'm not seeing things, but they just gave me a little like a stool, basically, like wine. And now we have to like repeatedly move more pieces in over time. Like, why not just leave the bench there?

Like I like I never saw it. I don't know how big the bed, like how close it is. Those are I got to put those in, you know, like, why not? I don't know how big the bed, like how close it is. Oh, for those. Yeah, I got to put those in, you know, like, why not? Yeah, I know. Oh, fair. It's like, is how is this done for space? Is it because this tribal set is smaller? They only they don't get the full event in.

They they need the maximum size because eventually they need it. But but then at that point, the tribe, the tribe will be small. So maybe they can take up more space with the bench. What if it's going to be stacked? So like now, Chris, he's going to be sitting right behind Cedric, but above them, the next person. And it just kind of like a stairway going up. The last person has to climb past everybody to get up there.

Yeah, it's like up here in the death zone up here. Why? But we were talking about it like you make him stand at this point, like make survivor heart again. Make him stand. He only cares. Yes, I stand by the fact that's going to be one of the survivor 50 votes in the hands of the fans jury. Make him stand.

You earn your seat at tribal. Like if you if you don't do well enough, you have to sit on the floor while the rest of your tribe sits on the little stool thing while addressing Jeff. Yeah, oh my gosh. It was just, and I think it was also, maybe it's a combination of it being Cedric too, that has to sit on the tiny bench.

It's just so great. Maybe that's just thrown as the jury four person. He gets a little, he gets that by next week. They've got the full bench for everybody else. And he said he has his own seat. That's obviously. Yeah, he gets his own little throne. They're going to expand it. They're not going to make them sit like they're going to expand it

horizontally next week, surely. It's not going to be like a Chrisy saying on the same thing. OK, so there were definitely two seats. So there was a seat that was on and it looked like a seat above. Like I think they might leave them there next week. I was so far so onward though. So Chrissy and then Cedric's like in between

and then one of Chrissy's legs on there, like this looks weird. Like, what are we doing? I have never thought this much about the jury seating in my entire life. It was just like, yeah, they walk, they sit down. Not a big deal. I'm like fascinated with this situation. I just want to know why they did that, though. Like, what's the purpose?

They're trying something new now. I got to make innovation. It is harder or like you said you can't like lie down the end, just like take a nap on the jury bench anymore. Imagine if they had the full bench and Cedric just lounged on it like this the whole time. I want them to do that.

I know. I love that. I think probably he like when Jeff would yell at them immediately, let's be clear, but it it'd be funny for a second. If they laid down on the jury bench. Oh, he would absolutely yell at them. Yeah, undoubtedly. No, I just like the idea of Cedric being like, paint me like one of your French girls. Because he like exactly on the bench.

Oh, my gosh. OK. What else even happened in this episode? Tacos, tacos. Let's taco about it. I will say there was a little bit of a rug pull because Jeff goes, and tacos, and he's like listing all the things. And then he goes, and chocolate, cupcakes. I did think there was gonna be chocolate milk.

Yeah. You can see the like fallen look on his face. And then and then the weird purgatory of just Chrissy and Kyle. You guys get nothing. OK, look, they talk about like they have probably an hour to themselves. I just want I want that footage of what were they doing? You know? Yeah, yeah. It was kind of like how being like, no, I need to wait and see who loses their vote.

So it was like your fate hangs. I guess you could be going home because you're not in the alliance, but like you can do about it. But just yeah, the bottom four had to fight for their votes. The top four got to eat. I feel like these two should have gotten something. You get in the middle. I mean, I don't know.

You get time around camp for an idol. Yeah, that's true. Why did we not see? I I imagine they did. Or at least one of them better have used that time to search. If not, yeah, disappointed. But like, yeah, you have an hour to yourself at camp. What are the person you go to after that jungle and you go search? Like there's nothing else you do.

Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. The other thing, too, about the the taco reward and Puyo, you mentioned this when we were watching the episode, but it was like Joe and David took their daughters to work day. Yeah, it was like it was like both of them had this like they had these like very like happy hugs after they won. And I was like, they're each other's duos. Like these are two duos we're seeing right now.

And then it was just like, yeah, the eating and the, all right, just pace yourself. It was that kind of energy a little bit. But I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued by this advantage that Eva has because, so after tribal, in the dark, she has to go to the opposite side of the beach, this lit area to get her secret advantage.

They don't say what it is. Do you think it's going to be as easy as a grab and go? Or do you think she has to do something to get it? I'm thinking it might be similar to remember David's life. David has something like that, right? It was like a night thing. What was it? Was it a night or like David on his own for something to get an idol?

But it might be like a little game or something to get it. Who knows? Yeah, we've had this kind of night journey before. And I remember something. Was it I love the idols? They had like maybe I missed a bunch of a bunch of stuff on Island of the Idols. So what I'm trying to remember is if Eva's reward said something about a boat. Am I making that up?

Why do I feel like there's a boat involved in this situation? Oh, I felt like, yeah, I feel like I'm going to go to the end of the beach and then get on a boat. Maybe I made that up. But we've we've just had to look for fire, didn't they? They say look for. Yeah, that's what I thought. OK, so might be some like station they set up on the beach, which which makes sense. I mean, I don't know which beach they're on.

I didn't keep track of which beach they merged to this. Which beach they merged to. Um, I think it was. No, I have no idea. OK, I think it's off the end of the beach. But there's definitely enough room for there to be something like hidden for everybody else. I think it's yeah, definitely a room for it,

because they should know else can see that the game area is large enough for that. So it could just be a little station set up right on right on their beach and they build it at night, wait for even to go out and tear it down. That's like at night, just like no one's going to be doing too much at night. Like it's it's genuinely pitch black. You if you want to go somewhere, you can't unless you have like your own torch lit up, which no one's really going to have at that point at night.

What's because we're going to do like I'm going to the woods for an hour. For what? Searching like no. So she'll be fine. No one's going to really find her unless she like kicks someone's leg while sneaking out. So we'll see. Like wakes up. I mean, and then she also again, it's kind of up to her, right, about whether or not she's going to tell, you know, Joe, right, would be that person.

Yeah. It's anyone who would be Joe, which I hope he doesn't keep it to yourself. Please. But we'll see. Yeah. Have your own. Yeah. Like something to just like put you separate to Joe. Which everyone's seen you as a pair, especially when Joe is the one getting a heat right now. Joe's being seen as a bigger threat. They make it far enough into the game.

I'll probably get the vote over her. So this is a chance to stand out and hopefully do something with whatever advantage this is. Well, and it's funny because I'm so I'm rereading the advantage now. So you OK, I'm totally made up of both things. So whatever it says, look for the flames where your advantage awaits. Right. I mean, you know, head out, head out quickly, sneak to the opposite end of your beach, look for your flames where your advantage awaits. And then it actually explicitly says secrets are rare in this game,

which is why they are so valuable. Good luck. It's almost like they're explicitly saying they said, keep this to yourself. That's just shut the fuck up. explicitly saying they said to yourself. Yeah, the fuck out loud. My God. So that's very interesting to see. Yeah, I mean, look, it would be wild if it was a full blown idol. Like I would be surprised and not surprised all at the same time.

What do you think could be in an individual community? I would laugh so hard with knowledge is power. She has the only other advantage in the game and her idol. I will laugh so hard, but I don't even doing that. All right. What am I supposed to do? I don't like that. It's probably an idol. I like steal about would be pretty strong at the

did they steal about the season? I forgot. I've is a promise on lost. Did you get a double vote or something? I remember there were a lot of vote things. I was lost. We had a we had a block. We had a block. We had an extra.

And then I think Stila, I think the other one was a steal. I went home with Thomas and Thomas. Yeah. And then Blocko was Mitch's and then extra was Camilla. So, yeah, I guess you're not going to read any. It's not just power. Idol could be a yeah inheritance, which we only saw for like an episode or two on 44. But that I guess they were too broken to think on that got removed. That made me feel like let's be clear.

The fact that knowledge is power isn't a bad argument, do I because of the secrets are rare in this game, which is why they are so valuable. I mean, I want to keep that to yourself so people can yapp about anything they get. Because knowledge is power is the strongest advantage. If you know about it, once it becomes public, it is the weakest advantage in the game. It's just a target which played out. It would see it happen on this every season where it becomes public. Yep. So. I don't know.

Yeah. But then again, if she's the only one she's got both in her pocket, it's like, OK, oh, I'm going to steal it from myself. Oh, gotcha. No, like I said, they're going to hide another idol on the beach somewhere, unless this is, of course, the idol. It's this could be a clue to where you're in. Oh, it says, look for the things where your advantage awaits. It's so I see you sitting there.

If I got a camp to go get a clue for something else, I lose my mind. I I'm sorry, but I'm in the post merge to like. Right. Like, what do you mean? What do you I'm sorry. What do you mean? I got to I'm sorry. What do you mean? I got to go back and get something else up and then I'll give me give me the idol right now. I mean, could it be an advantage in the next immunity challenge?

But then it's then it's public, right? This is supposed to keep a secret, right? True is a secret. And there's not a lot of challenges where you can't see everyone else's progress. Right. And I'd love to do it in the didn't like a way to secretly get a manager challenge. I'm not sure you can do that. I mean, like your puzzle station already has a couple of pieces. Yeah. You got to unveil the puzzle, like the slide puzzle and like, it's like half completed or something. Or it could be like, you know, and they have to do the numbers and get like, pull the thing out. And it's like three

different numbers. First numbers already there. Right. Or you just give you the code ahead of time or something. So you just know it when you get there. And then that way, it's not obvious to others. It's just like, I don't know. She just guessed right away. So good at that. I have never heard.

Damn, that's I love to explore that kind of space, like secretly getting mentioned challenges. But that's the innovation they could take in the future. I would love that over losing a vote. Yeah, absolutely. Like give people doses and challenges. Don't take away their ability to speak in the game at all just because they're not good at what digging through some sand.

Yeah, exactly. I almost want the punishment to be like, OK, so this round, everyone gets two votes, but you lost one vote. So you still have a vote like I'd rather everyone gets a double and you get nothing than you get nothing and everyone has a vote still. We're at 10. Let me do something. Let me matter because let me tell you for having zero vote stars presence at the tribal council was worth every single minute like that.

Yeah. Basically, she explained why it's not good. It's like people are embarrassing. Now, with me, though, like it's like it makes it clear and like and luckily star herself wasn't a target, right? Because if she was, it'd be the saddest vote of all time. I mean, like, yeah, I lost my vote. I have my shot in the dark.

So should I just get my towards now or like, oh, my God, or later? Try with you if dark. So should I just get my towards now or like, or later? Try wait. You if if star left at this point, if star left at this point, after having the beginning of found the cryptex does not have a vote, they're even saying let's not solve it to boot star anyway, to finally get her vote back, give up the target that is the idol only to then lose her vote and unceremoniously leave. Yeah, no.

We're talking some some some players getting a bad season draw. Star is right in the middle of that. If that was Star's exit easily. Oh, I don't like it. I just I'm so obsessed with star like star making the comments during the immunity challenge of like those were the good days where you get our good old days where you can actually stand on it. I loved that like Shadam.

Great. We love that star. And then also when she was just sitting, just sitting, I think with Mitch, maybe in the shelter and like, man, I wish they had subtitles just watching that group on the beach just talk away about their fate in the game. Ridiculous. group on the beach just talk away about their fate in the game. Ridiculous. Okay. Well, speaking of the boots this week, we need to talk about Chrissy. Now Mike is not here to read his preseason prediction, but don't worry.

Pooja has got you covered. So let's start with Mike's prediction this week. Pooja, how did Mike think Chrissy would do in this season? So Mike decided to go ahead with his prediction for Chrissy, and he said finale, final three in brackets, in case you don't know what finale means, want to give you a little more. Finale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he specifically said final three.

OK, so what a terrible start. Oh, and I'm going to be completely unbiased. Mike's not here to defend himself. So don't you should you should mute. This is between me and Dwight right now at this point. With her hardworking demeanor and down to earth personality, Chrissy is one of the safest people on her tribe, but also the least shown.

Chrissy instantly connects with David over their work ethic. When he tells her he hasn't watched much of the show, it's music to her ears. When the merge hits, it's a tale as old as time. Everyone loves Chrissy while simultaneously not feeling threatened by her gameplay. Somehow, the cool ant strategy finally paid off. While the twists and turns of the game leave Chrissy on the outs with her fellow SIVA allies Kyle and Camilla towards the end, luckily the maneuvering of her former tribe mates helped them navigate through the fire and keep theirs from being snuffed.

In parentheses, which goes against Chrissy's occupational nature. Badoom. Chrissy shocks everyone when she wins the final immunity challenge. Feeling like an all SEVA Final Three would put her in a distant third, she makes one of the most unexpected moves of the season, pitting her two allies against each other and fire making. Unfortunately, that hurts Chrissy's case even more as she gets flamed by the jury. It turns out while nobody wants to be voted out by

their moms, a healthy amount don't want to be voted out by their aunt either. Um, Chrissy's allies were Kyle and Camilla and Chrissy's enemy was doing too little, then too much. Okay, so what a bold prediction from Mike having Chrissy go to the final three, win the final immunity challenge, take whomever is also along, put Kyle and Camilla against each other in fire making. What a wild season that would have been. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay, so I was not as high on my feelings for Chrissy, although I did have her making the jury. And I said that Chrissy, AKA Miss Blaze Queen, which was the nickname that charity gave her, by the way. So just let Miss Blaze Queen live. She sails through the pre-merge as Siva never once attends tribal council in the first half of the game. Come merge.

She and her alliance alliance. C squared, K squared, which is Chrissy Charity, Kyle and Camilla. So K squared C squared K squared stay strong until the end game looms. Chrissy wanted to target game nerds like Shaheen and even her own alliance member Camilla, which drives a true rift with her and the rest of the group. After the C squared K squared implosion causing Kyle to leave, Camilla gets her revenge on Chrissy, eliminating Chrissy almost unanimously. Her ally was C squared, K squared, and her enemy was game nerds. So, OK, you have to pick who had the better prediction between Mike and I.

Oh, you know, I think I'm going to have to give it to Liana here. No, why? Yeah, it is a shocking decision from me. I will say, I think Mike did mention like any of doing too little and doing too much of like something when the merch hit. Yes, he said, yeah, yeah. Tribal's on fire now, actually. I was like, that's a few points there.

But no, Liana, that was pretty, pretty damn right. In terms of getting getting to a jury spot and then causing a few ways of getting kicked out. But yeah, those are some good kids. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I hate those gamers. We don't need them anyways. I know those those people who are like, oh, I'm a strategic player.

You know, there's like super fans like, why are you even like playing? Like we're past that now. We don't need those anymore. It's not the time. All the. Yeah. Yeah, we're we're past that now. We don't need those anymore. It's not a problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're we're past that now, which is so funny to me because it's like Chrissy, you needed those game nerds. Those are the people you needed to work with. She wanted. Yeah. Chrissy is the person I definitely I would have tried to like align with straight up

be like, OK, can I talk to him? Can we play the game? They're perfect. Like so. But you got to be careful, though, do I? Not didn't not enough game. OK. No. If you ever revealed if you practiced any challenge in your basement, what a nerd. Done for done. Oh, OK. Real quick. You know, you know the moment where they were making their picks

for who the pairs were? I found the Joe confessional of like breaking it all down to be reminiscent of the hide and seek segment with Q talking about the mistakes people were making in hiding. I thought that was an interesting lens to look at it at. That's very calling out like, are you making a mistake and picking Camilla David picking married. So that's very, but it really undermined Joe when Joe, but even if you're Christy being like, yeah, just picking up like so.

That's like what the hell is. So, yeah. And then we saw nothing for what Kyle and Chrissy and how star and Mitch got paired together. Kyle just said, yeah, I guess I get like I guess. No, he didn't think this whole thing was I don't want to be Camilla. Yeah, he is. I guess I got Chrissy. I think Star and Mitch were just.

I don't know who was starring in there. Why? Why do I remember? I don't recall seeing Star there at all. Did they wait? Do they think there's no time they let that go? OK, they made they made it like at least when we did the pair. Yeah, they made sure we were all present for it. Like they were all on the beach and they kind of just said like,

hey, someone should go get free mail. Star is there. Star is there. Start sitting on the sand. OK. Oh, yeah, it must be like hidden out of frame. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, because this is like pretty this is like a game mechanic. So they make sure everyone's there for that. They want someone just be like, oh, you weren't on the beach at the time we have to go get treatment.

We picked for you. Yeah. They wouldn't. They would not let that slide. I mean, they've given her no screen time. Maybe they don't really care. But OK, you know, star is we've not seen a lot, but I can't echo this enough. Such a star like I think every like every nugget of time we've gone with Star has been a blessing.

It's so good. Yeah, I adore her. She's great. OK, so the game we are going to play this week, it's Scatagories because this episode was just the majority alliance, just by voting altogether, was completely scatagoried all over the place. Right. Like we saw the fractions, which I'm really hoping will persist. I thought that this week would be the start of that, although they didn't end up all voting together in a nine to one vote, but now I'm like, okay, come on.

We're good for fracturing now. Right. Like this is what we're doing. We're fracking drama, drama, come on, we're fracturing now, right? Like this is what we're doing. We're fracking drama, drama. Maybe next week we saw a preview. That's what I'm hoping for. But for this week, hopefully the two of you can keep it together for Scatagories. So I the way this game is going to work is I will give you

90 seconds, let's say I'll put 90 seconds on the clock and you will have that amount of time to answer, to fill out one, two, three, four, five, six, six different categories, sorry, scategories that have to do all with survivor. And all of your answers have to start with the same letter. So I will spin a wheel to select your letter, but your categories are a survivor duo,

which I will count first or last name of either player. So, for example, if the letter was J, you could say JT and Stephen. If the letter was S, you could say Stephen and JT. OK, so both both apply. Your next one would be an item at camp or at a reward. Your next is a reason you would get voted out. An advantage, any advantage. A name you would give your alliance. This is inspired by the strong five.

So it doesn't have to be a preexisting survivor alliance as survivors have a tendency to typically not name their alliances. So this is an opportunity for you both to be creative and come up with a name for an alliance. And then of course, inspired by this episode, name an animal you could fight. Okay, so those are your six categories.

I'm going to spin the wheel now to get your letter. So, trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Incorrect. It is N. So I hope that the letter N works for you. So I am going to start your timer. Now, while Puyah and Dwight are frantically trying to come up with animals they could fight that start with N, I will give you what I'm going to call my out of pocket moments from this episode. The first out of pocket moment comes from Kyle. And I believe this is when Kyle was talking to.

Hmm. I want to say Chrissy. I don't remember. But Kyle said, I can't get blown right now. I don't even know what that means but it really really makes me laugh. So this concludes our out-of-pocket moments with Kyle's quote, I can't get blown right now. Which is just so so funny to me because as someone who would be starving out on that island I'm sure I would say so many more ridiculous things. As a heads up to our competitors, Pooja and Dwight, you have 35 seconds remaining. Be creative, Dwight, you're fine.

You're gonna be fine. If this goes terribly, I'll give you an extra 30 seconds when we play another round because we will be playing another round of this. Okay, so don't don't worry. You have. 12 seconds remaining. No need to panic.

You'll have plenty of time because you have four seconds. And that is time. OK, pencils down. Thank you. Hands up, hands up, pencils down. All right. Booyah, we're going to go ahead and start with you for now. Let's start with Dwight. We're going to alternate.

We're going to alternate. All right. So you are first going to give us your survivor duo. All right. You ready for this one? Yes. And reminder, your letter is N. Yeah. Now, Bandian and Bruce. Are we going to count that as a duo? Yes, because at one point they were seen as a duo.

OK. Oh, OK. Sure. Sure. We'll give you that. All right, Dwight, who is your survivor duo? Natalie and Jeremy. OK. Yes. Oh, my God. That makes. All right, Dwight, who is your survivor duo? Natalie and Jeremy. OK, yes. Oh, my God, that makes so much sense, too. Yeah. Yes, because it could be first or last name, by the way. Yeah. Can I tell you what happened?

Can I be honest here? I drew a blank for this and I didn't. I as you were asking, I remembered Kelly's last name is now Bandy. And so I was like, oh, my God, should I go now? Bandy and Brando? I don't want to say Brando's name. I'm going to go lock it in. So that's kind of what happened to me.

I completely missed. I couldn't think of anybody with the name and. And then I just wrote down that I was like, I was kind of like, it should be easy. I like it. I forgot. And yeah, I blamed. I hard blanked. I got an answer for everything else, though.

So I don't. Oh, my God. I got an answer for everything else, though. So I don't. Oh, my God. OK, well, we'll give it. We give you both credit on that one. This time we'll start with Dwight Dwight. Please name an item at camp or a reward. Again, that starts with M. I couldn't think in time.

I wrote down no pad for some reason. One item that I doubt you can get there. They had it on. I don't know the idols. One time you wrote a note. The dean wrote a note. And you want a notepad. It was not a notepad.

It was a pad you wrote a note on. So the notepad by Jeff. We what am I forgetting? And what it was in here? Because of the end of what I was like. All right. Well. The winner of the award today, you get to go to the nacho sanctuary.

I got yourself. We got nachos. We got cheese. We got ground beef. We got cheese. We got ground beef. We got milk. Sorry, chocolate. No. Chip cookie. All right.

I overthink a lot. Is that clear? Because I guess I can't. You could have gotten nails. I did. I should have. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that's just better than a notepad. What the fuck was I thinking? Anyways. OK, look, it's OK. I mean, I'm going to tell you it's OK, whether or not it is. Thanks for lying to me. I think my feelings. You're welcome.

Well, let's go back to you. What is a reason you would get voted out? The reason I would get voted out is because of not having a vote at tribal and being deemed useless by the rest of my tribe. OK, very long explanation, but I like it. Dwight never stops talking. Oh, yeah, that one definitely. Yeah. Hold on. Wait, hold on.

Hold on. You're too fast on that. Wait a second. I would only do that if there was more talking in your season. You want a price date, but you know. We have fun here. We have fun. Everyone. Dwight, were you able to come up with an advantage that starts with N? I said just nullifier.

OK, yeah, I also just said nullifier. OK, so I forgot to explain this, but if you give the same answer, you actually cancels out any points. It cancels out. Unfortunately, you both do not get a point, but very creative answers. I liked both. And let's see who you name a point, but very creative answers. I liked both. And let's see who you name a name you would give your alliance. Welcome into the no nonsense five. We don't take any ones crap.

We just said no numbers. I mean, I'm going to give you I'm not playing survivor. I just I ad libbed five because my favorite number. OK. The no nonsense alliance. You have to put the but when you put the number is like no nonsense five. Doesn't have to be. The I was also I'm a big proponent of no nonsense alliance, comma the like that was my strategy on Scatagory.

So if I want to give myself points later on, I need to set a precedent for accepting those. So I will be accepting that thinking selfishly for myself. You should give. So I don't know what Dwight says, but you should just give points to the more creative name here is my opinion. Wait, that's not fair. I didn't come with. I didn't have creativity.

It was based on the conversation we had. What is it? No pad? No, no, I was saying, you know, no, this whole this whole season so far has been about the strong people being together. And I'm just sick of it, right? Like it's a time that the the the nerds need to be able to play. So I said the nerds only alliance because this season we're sick of all the strong guys there.

We need our time again. OK, we haven't had a nerd win in like a couple of seasons. So it's been way too long. I like how you say we like you're a nerd, but I mean, in like a couple of seasons. So it's been way too long. I like to say we like you're a nerd, but I mean, I feel like you've been auditioning for the strong five with the with the progress you've been going through. Yeah. Drinking his chocolate milk.

If I can grab like the gallon of milk, I have my right now. So you can see a running grab that. Yes. Will you please actually? I mean, I will. I will run and grab it. Because it's next to a picture of David. I can't. This is what you know, some people have like a picture on their fridge.

So it's like, I can't I'm trying to diet, right? Like I'm not eating. Yeah. Oh, my God. He does. OK, well, it's only OK. First of all, it's only a half a gallon. OK, the other half gallon is in there and it's like almost empty. I don't want to grab that one, too, because they don't they don't. We got a gallon. OK, the other half gallon is in there and it's like almost empty. I don't want to grab that one, too, because they don't they don't. We got a deal.

Yeah, we don't have like the full gallons at the store. I shop is like, yes, there's something I have got to buy half gallons instead. You're like, I need to get it at a gallon at a time. I can't wait. Now, tomorrow, David approved here. Just just just to be very clear. But, you know, I was really inspired now to do you. So do you live, you know, your your place is your place, right?

So the chocolate milk is yours. Do you use a glass or do you just drink straight out of the jug? I still use a glass. I don't drink out of the jug. No, that'd be like good. That's no, no. Yeah, also, you know, put this back as well, because I left my fridge open. I'll be right back.

All right. Yeah. I mean, so go, go, you know, put this back as well, because I left my fridge open. I'll be right back. All right. Cool. Yeah. I mean, so go. Let him the bills are running up. Let him close the door. Bridge open. Why would he live with it? Because he's committed to he didn't want to leave dead air. I mean, I have two people who love to talk. OK, great. So do I I'm going to give you a moment

for your commitment to the chocolate milk. So we're now we're tied to going into this last round. Dwight, you're going to kick us off an animal you could fight. An animal I could fight. I think I could safely fight a newt. Aim bigger. Come on. I mean, yes, I agree. You would win. But anyway, I can fight it. I'm taking guarantees.

Also, not going to lie. I see you. I was like, what else? And I said narwhal. I was like, wait, I can just get stabbed. Newt. Cool. And I moved on. I could not think of another animal. And once again, embarrassing.

Like what? I can't even right now. Like what's up with an N? Like, am I? Hold on. I thought it, like what's up with an N? Like, am I? Hold on. I probably was like, just just an animal and right now I can't. Yeah, just take your turn. Any I can't think of an N.

No, I would just think of it. OK, you know. No, OK. No, let him let him let him. You. In any other animal. So the end. Mm hmm. All right, go ahead. I'm joking.

Um, I would fight and defeat a naked mole rat. There you go. Yes. That. Yeah. OK. That I think of like a one like this is like a one word animal. Right. That's an end. And I can't think of another one. I immediately thought Narwhal was like, no, I got to get. All the time.

I left it for the last. Yeah. There's a lot of birds. A nightingale. I'm getting defeated by all the birds. Yeah. I'm sorry. They broke my ass. You. Yeah, I'm sorry. They really got my ass. You. Yeah. You just die.

They just die. They just dive in, claw you, leave before you can retaliate. Yeah, exactly. You got like a hit or a rock or something like it's no, it's annoying. OK, what about what about like the new a Newfoundland dog? What about that? I let it win. I let it promise.

I let the dog. I let let it win. I'd let the dog. I'd let the dog win. All right. So, yeah, maybe a minute naked more out of the best options. Oh, it is a dog breed as well. I mean, it's a location, but I think there's I assume there's some commonality with the naming guy. You were a new film and would kick my ass, I think. We have a new film on.

They're pretty big. Pretty big, man. Oh, yeah. I'm letting him win. He's just winning. I'm sorry. Yeah. Let's see a nurse shark. A shark. Sorry.

Shark's winning. Shark. Yeah, that one. It's on land. I might have a chance in the water. I know. Absolutely not. All right. Great. Well, we're all tied up after one round. Let's play one more time, this time with a different letter. And let's see.

Same questions. Same question. Same category. OK. OK. So get your animals ready. Because for the round, who? The letter H letter D. OK. What would you fight? or the letter H letter D. Okay. What would you fight? So I will go ahead and start your time now.

Again, a minute and 30 seconds on the clock for the letter D. And as a reminder, the categories are a survivor duo, first or last name of either player will count, an item at camp or a reward, a reason you would get voted out, an advantage, a name you would give your alliance, and an animal that you could fight.

Which so far we have naked mole rat and newt on the board as two of the animals that we would fight. Let me see. So I believe just to recap what some of the other animals that were mentioned that inspired this category. Now, Joe mentioned a fat ass pig, like one that's just retired, which really seemed like quite a step down

from the retired gorilla, which I still think the whole group reacts ridiculous. No one's gonna fight a retired gorilla. Then Kyle says hyena, but he seems to have a very specific way to fight the hyena. You have 30 seconds remaining. He says he's gonna put it in like a headlock situation,

which I didn't learn that from the Lion King, which is my only touchstone when it comes to hyenas. So I don't think that that is a real thing, but I do trust Kyle. He seems to be a very worldly man, knowing so many things. You are down to 14 seconds remaining. So as we round out this category,

five to five is the score, as Dwight got a bonus point for his chocolate milk. That is time. Okay. Let's start with Dwight this time. Wait, who did I start with last time? Who? Yeah, Dwight. You will start. Please name a survivor duo. Denise and Malcolm.

Who? Yeah, Dian Austin. Oh, Dian Austin. OK, great. So they do not cancel each other out and both get points. You're both up to six points. OK, yeah. An item at camp slash reward. Donuts, donuts. I wrote.

To. Oh, I couldn't think of any other item. I couldn't. I tried. That's what the yeah, the nickname for Austin D's nuts. Oh, my God. This is how I get. Yes. Yeah, just grab it up now.

We're we're done. We get time, time, right? We're we're we're the time limit for the. It's going to cut right when I say that. Thank you for taking out the baby. Yeah. OK. A reason you would get voted out. Dwight, we're going back to you.

Didn't stick to the plan and bullied myself out. You know, it's funny for name of survivor duo. Dwight could have just said himself and Jesse, but didn't. I damn I could have. I could have. You really thought of someone else before yourself. What a humble thing. I really thought that took a nice whole 10 seconds. I could have had back just thought of myself anyways.

Next time. What was your reason? Can you repeat? I said didn't stick to the plan and voted myself out. Yeah, I like didn't stick to the plan. Pooja, what did you say? Delivering harsh realities to the rest of the tribe, which comes off as rude and off putting. Okay, David slash Chrissy. They're holding. It's essentially the same. All right, we're back to an advantage.

Pooja, what advantage do you come up with? It's the difference essentially the same. All right, we're back to an advantage. Who? Yeah. What advantage do you come up with? It's the do or die advantage. OK, yes. And why? What did you say? So I tried to create one on the fly, which was horrific.

Said like doomed boat, which is like you can kind of like, I don't know. Long story short, my idea was you put a vote on yourself and like if you try able to like get extra vote later or something, but it has to be on yourself. OK, look, I like the game mechanic, but unfortunately, the doomed vote to my knowledge is not. It's a disadvantage. It's a disadvantage. It's a disadvantage.

And we can create one. Didn't you say a lesson? That was for the names. If not, then I could just say the divided idol from a word. Well, you can't you can't. You can't exactly as you should have said before. OK, but like I thought the rules were different, but I can't wait like three seconds.

So like my man. OK, fine. The complaining works on me. I'll give Dwight. Yes. All right. Name a name you would give your alliance. And who Dwight you. Why don't you don't vote us out alliance? Wow. And that's like some straightforward messaging.

Listen, guys, no bullshit. Just don't let us out. Don't let us out. Don't let them vote it out. All right. Yeah. What would you come up with? We are the devour, feculence mob. Yeah. Yeah. OK. You go against us.

You devour what? Feculence. I appreciate the severance reference. Yeah. OK. You go against us, you devour what? Thank you, Linz. I appreciate the severance reference. So, yes, of course, you're going to go ahead and get a point for that. Yeah. All right. Now we're down to our final question. And because you are both tied at nine points, I am going to make an executive decision.

I'm only going to give one of you the point and ultimately the win for your answer here for which animal you could beat in a fight. So, Puyah, what animal did you pick? Donkey. Oh, do you think you could really be the donkey in a fight? Yes, I thought about it hard in a do or die situation. I think I could do it. Interesting. OK.

And Dwight said the same thing. I can have an adulterated or raising foot donkey after. Oh, my God. You. OK, fine. Right. Give us a new question on the fly. New one on the fly. On the fly. You went on the fly.

I thought long and hard about this. OK, here's what we're going to do. I'm going to spin the wheel again. All right. And you're going to give me again another animal that you can fight, but we'll only we'll just do the animal. How many seconds? How long you have?

20 seconds. I'm cooked. OK. Is that you can come up with an animal in 20 seconds. You can be impressed on how bad I am at thinking quickly. Like, I just panic. OK, well, you know, it's going to be a letter of the alphabet. So that helps a whole lot. Yeah. You can go ahead and start there. OK, your letter is G.

G and I started your timer at 20 seconds now, just to clarify, this is a winner take all type situation. OK, you don't get, is Dwight done too? Are you done also? I'm thinking. Okay, let Dwight think. He's got time. He's got time.

Let him think. And so this is, again, like I said, this is a winner take all. Now I'm looking for what I think is the strongest animal that you could fight. Okay, so if you pick a new, you're out. Now your time is up. Kuya, what is your answer?

I think I could easily suplex and take down a gopher. I believe that you could take down a gopher. Yes. Thank you, Dwight. If you have anything more powerful than a gopher, but I think you can if you lie and say giraffe, we will like, let's not lie. I mean, have you said I mean, maybe now he could. I mean, listen, if you can sneak up on it, you could take. No, you cannot take down a giraffe.

There is no shot. If you're not the neck hold, there's plenty. Like what do you get? You get up in a chokehold. Is up here. You are. You get rid of chokehold. Oh, no, but you get there. It's over. Like, listen, I sit up on a tree.

It comes by to get some food. Bam. Choke hold. What do you do? It's over. This is ridiculous. You can not out. Is that what you do? Sleep like with the arms, huh? If I'm honest, that you can't reach it, can't reach down. I'm I'm waiting in the tree.

It comes by pounds neck choke hold. It's over. Lights out for the draft. Can't even nothing. No, no hands. Nothing you can do. You get right there. No arms. The man said newt in the first round and now suddenly. And then I locked in.

I don't see what the problem is. I simply locked in for the draft. You do not have the locked in gene. I just did, brother. I locked in right now. You didn't lock in. You picked a go. You got you don't have that locked in gene. I just did, brother. I locked in right now. You didn't lock in. You picked a gofer. You got you don't have that dog in you.

You wait on it. Did you go because I said giraffe you forgot? I already had giraffe. I have a locked in. I did not waver from what I am. This is absolutely absurd. They don't want to pick the gopher. That's on you, brother.

Pick something better. OK, yeah, I mean, obviously you may look at it. I know he's human. He's trying to he's trying to disprove the fact that you can't. It can be drafted if I try to find like articles. The articles don't attribute for me. They don't count for me. OK, you're not thinking about what I bring to the table here.

OK, find everything you want. He's drinking a lot of chocolate milk, a lot of chocolate milk. Let's be clear. A lot of chocolate milk. Hell of a lot of chocolate milk. I have seen Dwight fail to fight his way out of an accusation in a game before. You're telling me this man can fight a giraffe. But if the accusation put up like throwing hands with me, I win every time. So you know what?

The chocolate milk, the? The chocolate milk. The dragon drink chocolate milk. So I got to add man's on him. Yeah. I mean, he's got a point. Man's got a point. This is asinine. This is asinine. Yeah, that's the fact that you're fighting me

on this asinine. You're just not respecting the fight that I bring to the table here. When you chose a gopher, you chose the easy way out with this gopher. Like also, maybe the gopher could be too. Who knows? The gopher could take out your. That is ridiculous. OK, that is ridiculous.

What the goers are biting at your ankle. What's going to do that? Huh? Yeah. What if the gopher has a disease and you get sick and then you die? I have a disease. The point is the pipeline of me getting sick and dying happens long after the gopher's been taken care of. Like, OK, maybe it's a it's a from beyond the grave type situation.

I think I was the gopher escapes you. Then what you go to go? I don't think you could fight a goat, let alone a giraffe like that is. Go. You. You. This. Oh, no, no, no, I think I think I could fight a goat. OK, yeah, the goat would know the draft provides a moderate challenge,

at least the goat easy. OK, we that's that's fine. You digger draft would be quite hard, but I do believe in your abilities, Dwight. So I think you know, at least someone we should give them. We should give him the win. The man didn't even make the jury like let's give him some. Oh, you had you had to bring this back. You had to read the I was waiting.

You had to get you can't take your loss. What's on him? He was trying. Yeah, I'm going to do something on the way out. It's like, oh, I lost, but he didn't make the you get out of here. And I just saw it come from a mile away. Give it to him. He made the pre jury joke early.

You can't make it anymore. Hey, I do it again. All right. Well, just like David and Chrissy, we've got to go. And in this instance, I am the Chrissy. I think you're out. Yeah, I think you're the Chrissy getting voted out. Yeah, but but David, a.k.a.

Dwight ruined his chances at winning the jury. I can bring him back. The social game, surely it works out. We've seen these ducks social game how every week people are flossing to aid me every single day. How big is a giraffe's leg? OK, let's not look into the science of this. I already won. OK, let me.

OK, so a giraffe's leg is approximately six feet. So at best, you're like face to face with the foot. No, once again, I'm not. I'm not attacking from the ground. I am attacking from the tree. Yeah. The element of surprise. What tree? What tree? A tree. The tree.

You're climbing a tree. Yes, I'm climbing a tree in advance to prepare for the draft. The draft. Yeah. By Randy Orrin, you're going to RKO the giraffe. That's not going to happen. I'm putting in a chokehold. What's what are you getting? If I if I RKO, I'm going to the ground,

then I'm vulnerable to the legs of the draft. If I stay on the neck, do I can't. This is the this is your your complete with you can a drafts. Neck isn't this much. It's bigger. You're not going to be able to hold on for long years. Circumference of of of of draft. Giraffe circumference. No, not long. Giraffe circumference. No, not not long.

OK, circumference. Yeah, you want the giraffe's neck can be up to six feet long. OK, well, that's long. Exactly. I thought the same thing. Yeah. Well, OK. By the baby giraffe. Like giraffe, baby,

I think I would. Is there any like people who say duality, please inform us. The giraffe's neck weighs about 600 pounds. It's not about weight. It's not about it's about can I put it in a chokehold? That is the only thing here. There was no way. You probably know.

I kind of want to just I want to outright call him right now. You know, I will do it for you. I'll do it right now. Well, we'll all call him if he doesn't answer it. Actually, what would be really funny is if we have calls, he doesn't answer. Then Dwight calls and Omar does pick up. Oh, we would lose his mind. I'll bring me some.

I hope I'm calling the right, Omar. Oh, OK. Well, maybe your other Omer friend can also tell us. So yeah, there's a Reddit post from four years ago on r slash giraffe. Hey, Omer. Hey, so I'm on the B and B with Liana and Dwight right now. I have a question. If you can answer as honestly as possible,

I would appreciate it, my friend. Do you think- This is about the question of how thick how it's what comes from a draft. OK, so what's the circumference of a giraffe's neck? Is what we're trying to find out. Well, I mean, part of that depends on where in the neck is at the top of the neck.

Yes, the top of the neck, the top of the neck. Like right below the head. Yes, the top of the neck, the top of the neck. Like right below the head. Sure. I would say probably like the circumference. Yeah, like, could you could you lock your fingers around? Like, could you wrap your hands around the neck? No, no, no, like, no, like, can you get the giraffe in a chokehold? Can you get the giraffe in a chokehold? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, tree and his plan would be to leap onto the giraffe and get it in a chokehold formation and take it out. Do you think that's, that's a doable scenario? No, no, I think he would clobber him and then hook it in the head and then shut it. Okay, thank you. There we go. Perfect. Thank you so much. I got to go now, but I do over clarity. Okay. No counterpoint. Omer is a known hater. There are, there I do over clarity. OK, no counterpoint. Omar is a known hater. There are there's proof of this. You said you thought you said let's call Omar.

OK, I said this and I was in a state of agitation. I did not consider it over as a bias party against me. He takes your side in arguments, not mine. He takes my side. Have you listened to the way this man talks about me? I guess he takes your side. It's way too easy to decide. I don't know about that. It's true.

All right. That's enough. You've broken my green screen. They have anymore. You broke the green screen. I heard. Oh, chaos. OK. So Liana ruling. OK, no, no, no, no, no, no.

She made her rule. She already made her ruling the gate. It's over. I won. We cannot go back and change history. No hourglass here. This has been made. And we live with consequences. Unfortunately, I did already make my ruling that will stand.

You will need to appeal the next time you are on the BNB and we will consider that I have to be here at the same time as you to be able to defend the appeal. So we'll get in the schedule at some point. Just work it out with my my my assistant. You can hire whatever lawyers you'd like. You know, I hear Jake O'Kane is available. So he's my defense lawyer. Of course, of course.

OK, so enough of the shenaniganizing. I think this was a really fun episode. Dwight, thank you for coming on and winning our game today and proving to everyone you can, in fact, fight a draft. Mm hmm. Undoubtedly can't fight a draft like with scientific evidence. Ignore Omar. He knows not what he speaks. Of course.

And you as well for proving that Dwight cannot fight a draft with the help of Omar. I think we both tried. Falky logic on his part. Also, thanks for being a gracious loser. I appreciate your humility and defeat. It's a really nice trait from you to see you grow as a human being. Because, you know, you used to not be so good at losing.

But now you are. And I'm really proud of you for that. Yeah, I can only hope that you take this lesson into Survivor when you inevitably play a second time and are like the second boot. You remember. Second thing I thought you're going to say first. I'm like, I'm really think about how it is. No, actually, it's more embarrassing to be second because people remember the first boot.

Yeah. And people really. To be fair, I remember every second boot from like the new era. They're pretty iconic people. Love them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK, great. So Dwight, as we give all of our guests here on the BNB an opportunity to take a moment from all of these hating on each other to plug a charity to do it, what would you like to plug today?

I think I always say when I come on here, at least it consists of three, I am from Memphis, Tennessee. St. Houston Hospital is a great initiative to give back to their helping a lot of kids in need for various things. So I will always say go and support them where you can. And also just top over today, if you can, like anything that can help people down like near Florida State University right now,

definitely do what you can to help those people as well, because just definitely as well as any cause to help down there. OK, perfect. Great. Thanks for the flight. We're going to put all of that information in the comments for the video and for the podcast as well, so you can check that out. And oh, my gosh, that's it. That's the end. So in addition to the charity, Dwight, is there anything else you want to plug social media, Twitch streaming, Blood on the Clock Tower?

Or otherwise outplug that. So, yeah, I stream on the clock tower almost every Saturday at this point with the survivor alum and RGP folks and on Monday with our patrons at Twitch.TV slash doing more. And I'm also on like Blue sky and Instagram and Twitter on. I don't really use any of my other things. Super often, mainly Twitch. That's where I like to use things. But yeah, doing more on Twitch and more at two.

Like last name, guys, swing by. I think you guys would enjoy the game. It's a fun social election game. I've been doing it for about a year and a half now. And I believe that you get to run games with these two. They're a lot of fun. So, yeah, they'll swing by and check it out. OK, perfect. Yes. And I do love playing Blood run games with these two. They're a lot of fun. Yeah, they'll be something by and check it out. OK, perfect. Yes. And I do love playing Blood on the Clocktower.

So if you're a survivor fan, you haven't checked out Blood on the Clocktower. I highly recommend it because it is a social strategy deduction game. Very, very fun. And Pooja, to you, what would you like to plug? Gracious. Mm hmm. Go on. All right. Follow me on socials at Puyism, twitch.tv slash Puyo. Check out my other podcast that I do every week with the lesser half of the Puyo and Liana allowance.

You can find that every week. A good time is had there by all. So make sure you check that. And then I did a fiance podcast that you're in the hot mess express and see what's going down there. Perfect. And you can check out me at Leona is among socials.

We are closing things out with drag race that is in. Literally, the finale is coming up this week. I can't wait. Beth Amon and I are going to talk about everything from that. And then as we mentioned, the pal we are. And now you've seen the chaos of moving, trying to get everything packed and out the door. But we're still going to put out weekly content for the pal.

It might just look a little bit different. So thank you all for listening. Thank you to the whole whole RHA team for all of their help getting this podcast out into your eyes and ears. And we'll check you out at your next day. Mike and Leona gotta play in some games Let her pray to your mama that they're not super lame And if that all sounds cool, I can tell you the names It's the R-H-A-M-E You can say for free