RHAP: We Know Survivor - Predictions for the Survivor 50 Live Reunion Show

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

Predictions for the Survivor 50 Live Reunion Show It’s finale eve for Survivor 50, and Rob Cesternino and Mike Bloom are breaking down everything you need to know ahead of the long-awaited return of the live reunion show. Rob and Mike share their predictions and memories, all while reflecting on the whirlwind of Survivor 50’s season—packed with fans’ favorite twists, big personalities, and the return of some iconic moments. Rob and Mike speculate not only about how the finale will play out but also what the live reunion has in store after years away. Rob and Mike take listeners back to the last live reunion, remembering special moments both on and off the stage, before diving into what makes this season’s finale unique: the fan vote-driven Sia Award, the promise of in-the-moment reveals, and plenty of on-stage surprises. The hosts discuss the structural shake-up teased by Jeff Probst—blending the finale and reunion into a single, unpredictable three-hour event. With the return of live audiences, mystery guest appearances (will Sia show up in person?), and speculation about which celebrity superfans might appear, anticipation runs high. They also debate who will take home the Sia Fan Favorite Award, reflect on the impact of memorable exits (like Cirie and Rick Devens), and question whether there’ll be deep dives into the season’s biggest moves, alliances, and even pregame relationships. Key topics from this episode include: – What to expect from Survivor’s first live reunion since 2019, featuring a new hybrid format with surprise guest segments – The frontrunners for the Sia Fan Favorite Award and how fan memory shapes the vote – Speculation about which Survivor legends, winners, or celebrity fans will be in the audience and called on by Jeff – Predictions about whether topics like pregame alliances or historic rivalries will get airtime on the reunion stage – The likelihood of surprise live moments—merch plugs, political statements, or classic Coach haikus As Rob and Mike count down to Survivor 50’s grand finale, they tease all the drama that could unfold on and off stage. Will past rivals reunite or hash things out? What late-game move will steal the spotlight? And could an unexpected live moment change Survivor reunion history? Tune in to get all the predictions, hot topics, and fun Survivor 50 banter as Rob and Mike get ready for the most unpredictable Survivor live reunion yet! Chapters: 0:00 Finale Eve: Live Reunion Returns 2:21 Survivor 39 Finale and Jeff Probst Anecdote 4:05 Season 50 Live Reunion Format 6:05 Jeff Probst Teases Reunion Changes 10:14 Predicting Celebrity Superfan Appearances 14:06 Will Survivor Legends Attend Finale? 17:05 Mike White’s Possible Virtual Cameo 21:03 Sia Fan Favorite Award Returns 24:21 Historical Fan Favorite Trends 29:21 When Will Winner Announcement Happen? 32:30 Survivor 51 Preview: Themes and Subtitles 36:23 Survivor Reunion vs Bravo Reunion Style 39:06 How Far Will Jeff Avoid Conflict? 44:18 Big Moves: Idol, Coin Flip, Dynamic Twist 52:19 Will Anyone Make Political Statements? 57:01 Who Will Be Interviewed From The Audience? 61:07 Draft: Non-Season 50 Player Name Drops To order Rob’s book, The Tribe and I Have Spoken, visit www.robhasabook.com Never miss a minute of RHAP’s extensive Survivor coverage! LISTEN: Subscribe to the Survivor podcast feed WATCH:  Watch and subscribe to the podcast on YouTube SUPPORT:  Become a RHAP Patron for bonus content, access to Facebook and Discord groups plus more great perks!

Hey, everybody what's going on? Rob Sesternino, we are back. It's finale Eve. And we are so pumped up to talk about the first live reunion that we are having in these Survivor streets since 2019. And it was way back when in December of 2019, it was a time that I remember well because I had a guest at my house.

that time and there with me to stay. We had a sleepover. It was fantastic. We'll try to recreate some of that magic as I am back here with a man that we're going to give it up for. It's Mike Bloom. Reunited and it feels so good, Rob, yeah. Well, I think it's all happening because I think that at that time,

you came to my house, you stayed there in December of 2019. I believe it was also the first time we ever did the end of year, Brandt Steele. And I also believe... A literal fever dream. I think we did it the day after. I think it was the night before. I think it was the night before the finale. Okay, we were really audacious.

And that, in that night before the finale, I believe also, it was a big night for baby Grogu, who's also having a moment this month. So me, you, and baby Grogu are all back. And all 2019 is back in a major way. I mean, that was a really, obviously a very interesting finale. Rob, that was also a nice snapshot of, I think, your relationship with Jeff Probst at that point. Remember? He had a, yeah, there was a particular moment where Jeff comes out to warm up the crowd.

You got a nice shout out from him right there, right then and there. Yeah. So, and by the way, is it too much? Is it an oxymoron to call him baby grogoo? Do you not need to call him baby grogoo? Is that insulting to call him because he's not a baby? He's 50. Well, I mean, I think it depends on like, it's like your family members will like always refer to you by how they see you.

You know, like, a lot of my family members still call me Michael, even though I go by Mike pretty much. Yeah, exactly. So like you're always, he's always going to be baby grogudo. He'll always be baby Gros. Even though that was, you know, it's seven years later now. He's even older. But Mike, we went to the finale. I feel like it was me and you and Kurt Clark were in the audience.

And we were sitting there. and Jeff Proops comes out to warm up the crowd and he comes out and he's like, hey everybody, welcome back, this is the finale. We're so excited. And he's like, so I'm in my dressing room and I'm sitting there and I'm looking in my monitor and then all I see is Sesterino's face

right there in my monitor. Now, this was only weeks before the infamous do you even like me at all. Honestly, you should have seen it coming. I should have seen it coming. This was a prequel. Yeah, for context, though, speaking of baby Grogo. For context, because I believe actually, I remember speaking with

the great Chelsea Walker, who I believe actually was recently engaged. Apologies because I'm speaking out of turn here. But I remember seeing her, because this was the island of the idol's finale. And I was like, oh, yeah, were you surprised to be here? And she said, no, because the monitor, indeed backstage at the reunion that has this perspective on the audience had you and I, Rob, dead center of everything. So this wasn't like Jeff was seeking you out. You were presented in front of him. We were just sitting in the audience. And I don't know why that the camera people were like using us to test, test like the zoom lens on the camera.

So I'm not sure. I'm not sure maybe that they were doing target practice. As maybe the commentary on season 39 got a little too hot. That being said, here we are. We're back. We're season 50. We're loving it. We're back.

And so is the live reunion show. The fans did us a society. solid. They voted it in and we are going to be in attendance once again. Yeah, it's going to be a massive night. It's going to be incredibly exciting. As you mentioned, the last time we had a reunion was Island of the Idles. Even that was a bit of an unorthodox situation. I believe that was the first live to tape reunion. So technically the last like, yeah, so the last like live live reunion was Survivor, Edge of Extinction. So it has been a long time coming as. you mentioned, people have been jockeying for it.

They put it up to a fan vote. Of course, it went through. And so there's a lot to expect, given the timbre of previous reunions, but also, I guess, in vain of perhaps an Australian survivor, it seems like from what Jeff has been alluding to, this one's going to be a little different. A little different. And it should be an exciting night. We're going to have the contest winners are going to be there.

The people that found the idol. So this is going to be maybe totally. unpredictable, but that's what we're here to do. We're here to predict. We're going to ask questions. We're going to try to get to the bottom. Now, what has Jeff said on the record, Mike? I'm so glad you asked, because let me go to an interview that he did with the great Kelly Boyle over on TV Insider that recently came out this week. He was, this was the first to break the news that there would be one additional fan vote going out this week, which we know now is the vote for the SIA fan favorite awards, something that I'm sure we're going to bring up over the course of this

podcast. But Kelly asked. what aspects from the previous live events are being brought back. Any special entrance for you and the votes? And Jeff said, we're bringing back the elements people love most. The live audience, the real-time reactions, the immediacy of revealing the winner on stage, and that feeling that anything can happen because it's all unfolding right there in the room.

That energy is what makes a live finale unique. This year, though, we're structuring the night a little differently. Instead of thinking it as a finale, followed by a short reunion show, we're treating the entire three hours as one big live event. We'll be checking in with players throughout the night, letting the story of the season continue to unfold in real time, all building to the live reveal of the winner at the end. And then he goes on to say what he has said in previous interviews,

which is unfortunately to Dalton Ross's chagrin, he's not doing any sort of jet ski or helicopter entrances with the vote earns anytime soon. because he basically says, like, if there needs to, they need to find, like, a good idea. He did say I remember back when he did an interview at the Savannah College Art Design TV Fest that, like, there was an idea at one point that he was going to lose the votes and Mr. Beast was going to, like, kidnap the votes, and Jeff would go on this scavenger hunt to find them. But then they found out that, like, Mr. Bees had actually done that for, like, an award show.

So they put the idea on the kibosh. Mr. Beast was going to kidnap the votes? something like that or like put in some sort of demented saw trap to try to acquire the jury vote. Why would he do that? Listen, I don't know if it says a lot more about how they feel about Mr. Feast than Mr. Bees feels about the show. Yeah. Okay. All right.

What if Zach Brown like stuff the votes into like a giant like shark? No, I love that. Okay. So let's say Jeff gets on the jet ski and he hits like a rock and the votes sink to the bottom of the ocean. And so Zach Brown shows up in his skiff and is like, I got you, man. And then casts, he goes dive into the water, spears it like that tuna and then comes up holding it a loft like Rupert. What if Jimmy Fallon stole the votes? And then Christian has to like bare-knuckle box Jimmy Fallon to get the votes back.

I mean, I would literally pay per view to see that happen. Please, I want to see Celebrity NetFights segue to the Survivor Live finale. could need some action, I think, in the live finale. Okay, so it sounds like we're going to be cutting back and forth between the taped show in Fiji. Kind of building on what they've done a little bit in the past, but not having like a big meal of the full reunion show at the end. I have to say, I feel like that this format is not dissimilar to maybe how they used to do the Celebrity Apprentice finale. Oh, my God. Don't impugn that, Rob.

as Mark Burnett shows come full circle, like maybe Grogu and us. Yeah, I think that the way it's being described, I'm trying to figure out how dissimilar it is, to the way the librarians were kind of being done towards the end of their tenure before this brief hiatus happened. You know, I was watching a few of these back,

and I think back to, I think it actually, ironically enough, might have started with Surrey and Survivor Game Changers, where after she was voted out, they brought her out on stage to do an interview with her. So they did do that notably, with Surrey, but it did start earlier than that. I really feel like that around Kagyan was when the live reunion show really started to

change where they would do cut-ins, because if you remember even back to that they brought out Big D from Keith Nails' wife, where they would do some interstitials like, all right, come on out. I'm trying to remember if Surrey was the first person that was an actual contestant that they brought out to talk to. I watched back several of these interstitials, and that's as far as I can see. Surrey was the first. As you mentioned, they did a lot of cutting to family members.

There was a whole, like, gaggle of kids, I remember, that we're saying if Wu takes tono to the end, it'll be the stupidest decision in Survivor history. But I think that Surrey was the first person they actually did a sort of mini interview with. And then after that, we got, I believe, Devin and Heroes Healer's Hustlers. We got Donathan. We got Davey. We go from Big D to all the D's out there. Rick Devons, another D.

Janet, I think, in 39. I'll be intrigued to see then how much of that element is being brought in here. Because I would actually, Rob, if we're talking about these types of characters that get their own sort of segment in the finale, you could argue that two of the biggest

people who would get sex segment were just voted out in the form of Serian Rick. Yeah. So do we think that they're going to have like a few different like groupings of people that were going to come out and say hello too.

So it's like, all right, come here. For our first commercial break. All right, we've got here, Savannah and Charlie and Camilla. So how's it going? Yeah, I could see that where like one of the first commercial breaks. It's all right, here are the first seven people voted out of the game. So it sounds like essentially what we're doing is one big Survivor reunion slide puzzle, where it's like, here are all the pieces, but we're just shuffling around the order that it occurs.

So maybe that would take the place of the, all right, we've got the, 30 seconds real quick down the line. Let me just take down that last row. Give you one quick question each. I think if you displace that over to perhaps an earlier portion of the show, then that means that we are going to simulate maybe get less time dedicated

towards the end. And those reunions were getting shorter and shorter. I remember the Heroes Healer's Hustler's Reunion was maybe like 20 minutes long. And so it's like barely pin any lip service to anyone in the cast outside of the final five. So the more I'm thinking about it, the more this one

make sense if what Jeff is alluding to is correct, which is like taking the usual segments of a reunion and instead moving them to earlier points throughout the three-hour period. Okay, so we'll see how they ultimately end up doing it. Do you think that they're going to sort of be locked into just like asking them about what just happened, what we just saw? Like, wow, you just saw Joe win the final five. Like, Kyle, what do you think about that? I think it really depends on the people and it depends on the subjects that are going to be

talked about with each of these people like you bring up Kyle I think a very easy layup for lack of an air term for Kyle would be like how's your Achilles doing you know like I think if you can't really find questions to ask people about the season proper then it makes sense to say Q you're always one for a good sound bite yeah you may not have made a huge impact on season 50 but what did you make about the move Rizzo did right there yeah okay so Mike

where should we start with our questions about our finale. Well, I think a large perspective that has been brought into season 50 is the perhaps famous fans of the titular fans in the hands of the fans in the form of these celebrities. We have mentioned them a number of times here. We've got Billy Elish, Zach Brown, Mr. Beast, Jimmy Fallon. Do you think... And now see you.

And now see us. So I think that's definitely another, you know, facet we'll bring into this. but from the main four who were outright name dropped in the season proper, who had a direct impact for better or worse on this season, do you think any of them will be in attendance and we'll get a segment with Jeff? Okay. So my official answer is going to be no. I do not think any of the four celebrity super fans that were part of the season proper will be there.

I do think Cia will be there. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. I'm trying to think of like who of the four I could see. I would probably say Mr. Beast might be the most likely. I mean, I think Billy Elish at this point would rather attend a Taylor Swift concert than attend a Survivor reunion, considering perhaps some comments that may not be said on another podcast. And I think, I don't know if Fallon is off next week. So I think he's over in New York still, you know, making the head.

while the sun shines or while the sun sets over in New York. Yeah, so I don't think we get any of our original celebrity super fans other than Cia. Do you think that we have any other celebrities that are here in attendance? I mean, we certainly have seen that in the past. People keep pointing out, Adam Scott, of course, was at the Survivor Redemption Island. It's going to be a hot ticket, the Survivor for now. I mean, that's the other thing, too. Like, some of these people, there might have to be, you know, a bit of a David Spade-esque,

and you are a character out the door. You have to get a certain level of notoriety to be able to actually get a premium seat at the Survivor reunion. Like, sorry, Miami-Bialic. I don't know if your star has faded so much that you can stay in the reunion circle the way you did for Survivor One World when you talked about Colton.

It's how great Colton is. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So I'm not entirely sure because there are a number of celebrity superfans, but I think it depends on like how much they want to go and how much they are in contact

with production to get a ticket. Like I don't know of Survivors personally reaching out to Nick Offerman and Megamilalli being like, we really want you to come as they might have in previous years just because not only is the 24 contestants, there's all of their families,

there's these contest winners. There's, I think the rumor through the Gravemin, right, is like all the winners of Survivor have been invited. I'm not sure if all the winners of Survivor, of Survivor have been invited. I think some of the winners of Survivor. You don't think Brian Heidek's going to show his bearded mug in the studio. I don't think so. I don't think that they really,

like, did Natalie White get invited to the Survivor finale? You never know. Listen, Rob, you were able to get her on the podcast back in the day. She just shows up. She just shows up. So I'm not sure of every single winner. Okay, I've got so many other questions. But I do think that there will be other celebrity super fans in the audience. And I think that this format is going to be very conducive to like, oh my God, look who's here. Yeah, that could be something. I mean, Jeff does do that a bit.

Again, we talk about Miami and Bialic. I talked about like Terry Bradshaw. I remember commented on, now he had a Jimmy Johnson connection. So that makes more sense. So I guess that's the thing as well. Could friends of Mike White, who are celebrities, be in the audience and make commentary about his game? Perhaps is Mike White going to be there?

How about that as a prediction? I mean, is Mike White not shooting? the White Lotus right now in France? That's a good question. I mean, I think he'd have to take some time off from being in Cannes. And I know Mike White loves Survivor. That is, of course, everybody knows that. But does Mike White, is he going to, if he is doing his day job,

will he leave that to go attend the Survivor 50 reunion? I mean, I think so. I think despite maybe some of the misgivings he has with certain people, on the season. I don't think he has misgivings with the show. It would be great. I just don't know necessarily

if he's in the midst of like, you know, I think he might also have priorities. Well, here's my bold prediction here. I think if Mike White is indeed a no-show, I think we get a video message from him. Sure.

Sure. I mean, like, when we did the Traders finale, Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir were at the Olympics. They weren't leaving the Olympics to come back and do the Traders. They were, they did come in via satellite or I guess it's Zoom now. Now, oh no, Zoom!

No! They could say, hey, Zoom, everybody remember this? Now, what were the logistics of that? Like, I know, was it properly edited together or was there a large lag between you and the states and them? So, this is funny because, oh, that we, so we were in the room and they brought to everybody in in segments in the way that they do the Traders' Reunion show. and so that they brought out all of the traders because they really wanted

to get Donna Kelsey out there and so they had Donna Kelsey out there with the traders and then they brought in I think then they brought out more and they brought in Johnny and Tara because I don't want to spoil the season they go very far in the season

and so they're talking to them and then they brought out more people but so then Johnny and Tara are still like connected but then they're also so they had like a big TV set that had like Johnny and Tara on it. But then they would show

like they had like these packages that they would show. And then when they show the packages like Johnny and Tara were gone. And then like, so you didn't really see them, but they were still seeing everything. And then there was a point where Michael Rappaport had like a bone to pick with Johnny Weir. And he was like, he was like,

hold on a second. Hold on a second. Where is that silver medal winning pearl clutching? And you just hear, I never won a silver medal It was like the voice of God, Johnny Weir. He was like Michael Rapaport was like fighting with the ghost of Johnny Weir, who was still pumped in. Okay, so maybe we'll get that with Mike White. Even if we're getting video packages, Mike's voice will just linger above occasionally doing commentary throughout.

Hey, that's how I live my life. Mike White is listening at all times and ready to pounce. Mike White is always listening. a secret slogan of Big Brother. Yes. Okay. But, you know, I kind of feel like I'd be a little surprised if he's able to make it,

but pleasantly surprised. Yeah, I mean, I could see a world where he, like, breezes it. I feel like it could be a world where Angelina, like, gives him a little bit of pressure to be like, come on, stop in for, like, a day

and then fly back out to the French Riviera. I wonder if he could record a, like a cameo, like, hey, everybody. How much would that cost? $2 million? For him to leave France to come to Los Angeles for maybe 90 seconds of screen time at the reunion show,

it just seems like a big ask. Okay, that's a good point, Rob. Should they dedicate the entire reunion to Mike White to make sure they get their money's worth? I don't know. I just feel like that they probably might connect with him virtually is what I would suspect. There was that high concept episode of SNL where they pretended it was directed by Francis Ford Coppola. could they say this finale was directed by Mike White? Hmm.

Talk me through it. Give me the vision. Well, I think then there's just one big orgy in the middle of the reunion. Yes. People tripping out on drugs. And then there's like a trap door that opens and then Christian is just taken off the stage. Well, then, actually, I think it opens with Christian's dead body on the stage of the studio

line. It's like, okay, how did we get here? That could be the one scenario where Christian comes back to the White Lotus. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, it's not a bad call. I think if we, you know, we let Mike really throw his ideas in here.

I think we can really build something out. Yeah. Let's talk about that they brought back the Sia fan favorite award, which started way back when in Survivor, Co-wrong, when so many Co-wrong flashbacks where that tie... Yeah, Oprah's really going to be happy to PTSD here. Might be time for the Co-Rong rewatch, Mike.

And we have where... Ty ends up being the first recipient of it. I wonder, could Ty be one of the members of the audience if Aubrey is going to have her loved ones there? I would love it. I adore me some Ty Trang. I think that we got him in this like two-year spurt and then we heard high nor lack of hair from him.

But I love Ty and yeah, he truly was a game changer, not only on screen and that we need to remind people about this, especially who did not watch Co-Rong live, seea stormed the reunion set i do not believe this was planned yeah that this woman in this giant wig all of a sudden walks down the aisle and it's like hey hey hey stop the proceedings i have something to say yeah i don't think that this was a scripted moment and you i'm like okay is there like an intruder at the survivor reunion show and she was you know a friend of jeff and and friend of cochran and she was there at the finale.

She just walked on the stage that I want to give money to Ty Trang. Yeah, and so this begets, I would say it's somewhat seasonly tradition where Sia, just out of the goodness of her own heart, would give away various quantities of money. That was the oddest point about this, Rob, was the demented meritocracy of Sia's fiefdom,

where, like, okay, Janet and Elaine got $100,000 each, and like Jamal gets $15,000. It's like, okay, so you have to do certain things to earn more money in Cia's eyes, but regardless the bottom line, literally for tax purposes for Cia, is that she would give away money to like one to three people across a handful of seasons.

I think that that $15,000 threshold is like the amount of money you could gift somebody that without it being for, you know, getting involved with taxes. And then I think that there was some- I don't think Richard Hatchett's going to be there next week. I don't think so. I don't think so. But you know, they did have him at the 10-year reunion show. And really- I think a lot of change between now and then, Rob. Well, I mean, maybe like culturally, but everything that people are mad at him for doing, he did before he was at the 10-year reunion show.

He didn't do anything new. To be fair, though, wasn't that the rumor that he was still in the mix for Redemption Island? so he's still like in favor with production. And again, I think actually around 2019, that fabled year, I think perhaps things became a little bit more soured. Sure. And yeah, he has like spoken negatively of Survivor and Survivor production since that. That's the only other thing that has changed since then.

So I'd be surprised if you saw Richard Hatch at the finale. But so we have the C.O. Ward. It's going to be a fan favorite. I think that Surrey is the obvious. odds-on favorite to be the winner. Do you think, Mike, a la AFP, do we get runners-up announced, and do we get a top two or top three?

So I do think we get runners-up announced. I think back in the day, so this, even before Sia was a twinkle in any of our collective pop culture eyes, this fan favorite award did exist. It started all the way back in Survivor Exile Island, and two of the first recipients of this were. Surrey and Ozzy, but back then they just got cars. And then in China, they transitioned to good old hard cashola. And I remember whenever they would do it, Jeff usually announced the top two or

three people every single time. Even when Ozzy had like the biggest share in Survivor history and Survivor South Pacific, they did say like, well, Cochran finished in second place. I feel like, you know, Big Brother gives us a top three. I feel like Survivor has traditionally given us a top two. Yeah, I don't remember them always doing. a topic. I'm thinking about like Rupert and Russell in Heroes versus Villains. I think back to the last time we did this, which was Malcolm and Brenda in Survivor Caramohen, Malcolm and Lisa Welchol, a guest on this week's podcast in Survivor Philippines. So yeah, the more I think about it, this is where the final two has remained.

Rob has gone away long ago, left by the wayside and Survivor proper, except for this fan favorite vote. Yeah. So historically also, this is a good spot for Surrey and Rick. Devons, like the spot to get voted off right before the finale is the sweet spot to win the fan favorite award. And it's interesting that our two favorites for the fan favorite award, both go out in the same episode. 100%. Yeah, that's something that when we look back historically, and maybe brought this could be a fun off-season podcast, it's like from seasons 27 through 49, who could have won the fan favorite. But a lot of it is, especially in like the pre-social media era, wasn't

indicative on what have you done for me lately. And I go back to Brenda Lowe because she is the consummate example of this. She did bupkis on our screens for 12 episodes of Survivor Karamoen. But all it took was episode 13 when, you know, she won the family reward and let everyone go out on this giant barge and have a barge-bkew. And then Dawn, you know, led the charge to get her voted out and she was weeping. That pushed her all the way to second place. And maybe that spoke more about the Karamoan cast. but it went to show like how much the impact of a penultimate episode can bear on,

okay, now turn around and vote for somebody. So you mentioned Sri being the odds on favorite. I mean, allow me to play a little Survivor Devil's advocate here because I do think that a previous Cia winner himself in Rick Devons has a fairly good chance at perhaps usurping her. I think that Rick Devons, certainly it would be the number two pick if we're drafting this. And if it was Cia herself giving out the money, I think that he would have a much better chance

that Rick would prefer. It was like, hey, let's see his money. Let's let's see you pick. See ya loves Rick Devons. And so that's interesting. I think that the interesting question might be who'd be third place if they do a top three? I think it would be, you know,

forgive the kneecap sucking a little bit. Would it not be Christian? When Christian not be up there? May I counterpitch you? I think it would be Ozzy. Ozzie would be another good one as well. Yeah, Ozzy had some, as much as people might impugn the move he made or did not make. He obviously had a lot of great personal content.

He is a two-time fan favorite winner of this very award. I think unlike a Micronesia, like, he was not necessarily vilified in any way. So I think Ozzy is another really good thing there. I would love if they would release the entire results. I would love to know who's 24th. Show the voting records. Show the votes. Release the voting records.

Come on. Yeah, none of these people are coming back. You don't need to worry about upsetting anybody. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it would be interesting. I think I'd be intrigued to see because I think everyone has very different criteria of how they vote for this, right? I mean, everyone's enjoyment of a certain character can depend on a wide variety of things.

So it's sort of like, okay, who can everyone communally agree does not fit any of these categories? I just think there's a lot of people from the beginning of the season that people have forgotten about when it comes time to do the voting. And so I think it would be interesting to see how that goes.

But I do suspect we get a top two. At what point in the show do you think we get that? Is that the end of the night? Is that the final award a la Big Brother? I think that is the very last thing. It was the very last thing when the award previously existed. Now, that was a little different, right?

Because it's like, that was far after the winner was crowned. We don't know when the winner is going to be revealed at this point. If Jeff is saying this is more so going to be a little bit of a Reese's peanut butter cup, a finale and reunion all in one, are we saving the winner reveal until close to the 1011 hour? Let's do this, Mike. Let's do the over under, okay? Winner, winner reveal.

okay, I'm going to give you the winner is announced at 1042 p.m. Eastern Time over or under? I'm going under on that one. I think that there will still be some stuff reserved for the end. They'll want to talk with the top three. There might be a couple of video packages that they'll want to show. I think they do want to bring it still bringing that element from the quote unquote live after show they did in the new era. So I would say it could certainly see it in like the 1030, maybe even 1020 time frame, but I think 1040 is pushing it just a little bit. I'll say over. I'll say over. I wonder if they'll try to get it as close as they can.

Like I wonder if this will feel more like a Big Brother finale than a Survivor finale. Rob, this is a family show. All the kids will be in bed at that point. The Yves, yes. They'll watch it on DVR. It'll be fine. I think that there might be some questions about like, oh, why did you vote for this person? why do you vote for this person?

You're not going to get maybe the Charlie and Maria moment if anybody ended up doing a, maybe they should get Charlie's take on it. How did everybody vote Charlie? Are you cool with that? Charlie, who do you think Maria would have voted for? Yeah, but I kind of feel like I wonder if they're going to try to drag the suspect. Because I do feel like that historically, I think that the ratings, while the super fans have clamored for the reunion show to come back, I do think that the ratings have dropped off a

little bit after the results have been announced. And so I think that maybe they feel like, hey, let's try to drag this out as much as possible. To that point, will we see any footage of Survivor 51 at the end of the finale? Yes. Okay. And this was a moment of my question for you. Do, when we get a preview of Survivor 51, my question for you, Mike Bloom, is, will season 51 have a theme? Oh. I don't believe so. Because Jeff has certainly spoke out about the fact that certainly, you know, this was a lot of talk before the season.

He was very up in the air as to how he would approach and production would approach season 51. He said, let's see how 50 is received. So I don't necessarily think they were going in at least at the outset of this entire planning process being like, all right, we're bringing themes back. I think from what Jeff has said, like the theme needs to come from a really inspired source. And so I could see a world where maybe there's a couple of structural changes to it, but I don't think they are fully immersing themselves back into like, and don't worry, everybody, themes are back.

I know you've been missing them. The reunion is maybe more so hitting that element for a lot of fans. I wonder, could it have an unofficial theme, like, where we have Survivor, uh, some of them, some of the things have, like, themes that are sort of like soft, themes. Like Survivoramatu Islands of Fire. Yeah. You were like a subtitle?

Subtitle. Could it be Survivor 51 with a subtitle? I mean, that would be quite the throwback because we had that for a while. Of course, we had Vanuatu Islands of Fire, Guatemala, the Maya Empire, token sheens, the Brazilian highlands, Gabon, Earth Slash Eden, yeah.

That would be, I mean, if they were inspired to do that, God, talk about a stige of seasons long gone. to bring back, like, all right, we're not going full theme here. We're just sprinkling a little theme in a subtitle that no one's going to remember three months from now. Yeah. Survivor 51, Millennials versus Gen Z. Yeah, so I could see maybe that would be a little bit of having your cake and needing it too, right?

Of like, we're still keeping the number in so you don't get confused, Hunter, if you're doing a future challenge. But we're bringing some sort of, I thought you meant more so like the speech that Jeff gives at the beginning of the season of like, this is the social contract. You're building a community, but that's like the loosest of themes. Yeah, I'd say maybe they keep the number, but have like the theme as a little bit of the subtitle.

I don't think so. I would love it. I would love it. I'd be happily surprised by it, but I'm going to err on the side of caution here and say that we're just going with 51 for right now. But I do think, you know, it might be a,

it'll be a very quick turnaround around time from what I've been seeing as to like actually putting something together. But I actually, I'm thinking about when they did, I think it was 46 into 47. The 47 was still filming by the time the trailer aired. So I think if the editors knew ahead of time that they had to cobble something together a quick 30 second sizzle reel for the end of the season, they could use any sort of preseason. Yeah, no doubt they could do it.

I mean, Survivor 51, we saw, has finished filming. That's true. Now, could they do something in the vein of, I keep going back to this freaking Karamoin finale? I don't know why, because it's one of like the worst finale is ever. You think that anybody, 24 people has a lot to fit on the stage. They said they couldn't do it back in Survivor Caramow. Will they be able to fit 24 people on the stage? Or will some people have to sit in the audience?

Is that why they are going to stagger the reunion? That's why Adam Scott and Yvette Nicole Brown can't get in. It's because the seats are being reserved for Mike White and company. Yeah, that might end up, or they might like keep them in the green room. I know Jeff has done a couple of cuts to them, like, hanging out in the green room during commercial breaks. But yeah, I think that we'll get some sort stuff from 51, but could they do something in the vein of the

blood versus water introduction, where we get no actual footage, just enigmatic imagery to be invoked? And we would only understand in three months' time. I think you're going to give you a normal preview. You said it yourself with Survivor 47 was still filming when they did the preview for that season in Survivor 46. So they have plenty of time for this. Yeah, I mean, well, it depends on if they'll have plenty of time in the reunion.

Yeah, we'll get to it. We'll get to it, I think. Mike, let's talk about some of the topics that we might see covered in Survivor's 50s reunion. Let's get into this because there was this really good tweet. And I'm trying to find a person who posted it. So my apologies for not attributing it. it to the source. But they provided this really good reminder because again, it's been a second since we've had a reunion. And I think we have lovingly so had a ground swell of fans come in and

find Survivor since the last time we have had a reunion. But it serves as a great reminder that survivor reunions are not typical to reality show reunions in general. You can speak to this, I think, first and foremost, because you have now experienced a survivor reunion as well as more of Bravo-style reunion that I think people may expect when they hear the term survivor reunion. I also experienced what I believe to be the craziest survivor reunion of them all, the reunion for Survivor All-Stars, which I was an up-close spectator for. Yes. In the nosebleed that's close stella. I had the best seat in the audience. I was in the audience on the stage for the Survivor All-Stars

reunion. I was watching Rob Boston Rob proposed to Amber, but all I can see is, Sester Nino, looking at me. Yeah, yeah. I was backstage when that happened. But yeah, I mean, that was a massive one, Madison Square Garden. Like, again, people don't necessarily realize, like, that Central Park, when they had a huge outdoor venue there as well, much like Survivor proper, they really experimented with a lot of locations back in the day. For sure, for sure. Okay.

So, yeah, Mike, do you want to talk this through? Yeah, so, because I think that, again, people are like, oh, yeah, there's a whole. laundry list of grievances from throughout the season that people are going to run down. I don't necessarily expect that to be the case. Now, as we'll get into, there might be some specific topics that are being brought up. But again, if you look back at previous readings, I mean, Rob, you did a podcast a while back with, I think, Frail Mary of like, the most awkward reunion moments. There's a bunch of random stuff. Lindsay Wilson, yes, apologies for the misattribution there. But there's a lot of wild random stuff that happens over the course of this,

30 or so minutes that the reunion has been previously packaged. It's not necessarily a like, all right, let's do a running list of everything that happened all season long and get everyone's perspectives on them. Yeah, so the difference between Jeff and Andy Cohen as the host of Reunion Show. Do you tell. I don't know how short that list is. So I do think that Andy is looking for what are the more salacious things we could get the panelists to talk about. Where is the conflict? Where is the beef? Where is something that's going to, you know, get shared on social media? I don't think that's who Jeff is as a host. Perhaps maybe once

upon a time that was what Jeff's goal was. That's what Jeff's objective was asking some of the questions he asked of the contestants in the past. I don't think that's where Jeff's head is at now. I think if anything, Jeff is trying to largely avoid controversy and conflict in the reunion show. And I think that Jeff has worked hard over the last 10 to 15 years to really prop up Survivor as a place where there is gameplay, but then sportsmanship. And everybody comes together at the end of the show and everybody is feeling good about their experience. and there's a spirit of camaraderie amongst the survivors. And so if there are riffs, I think that what Jeff is looking for, hey, Joe and Rick, you guys obviously got into it on Zoom,

but you guys are good now, right? And then Rick would be like, oh, my God, I love Joe. Joe's the greatest guy ever. And then they hug. I think that's more where Jeff wants the survivor reunion to be. whereas in the past, sometimes where we have some of these awkward moments

that that's not what the Survivor reunion is about. I would agree. Jeff sort of treats this after show kind of like Nicole Kimman treats AMC theaters. You know, like we come to the reunion to laugh, to cry, to care. Like we need that feeling of unity.

As he sort of has expressed through various interviews, including one that you did with him a couple years ago, I think he has kind of moved on from, I don't want to use the term like trash TV, but I think as you mentioned, more of these like conflictual elements that may exist.

And I think it's going to be more of a celebrational aspect, much like the season proper history. Right. Where if this was an Andy Cohen hosted reunion show, we might get like, Ozzie, you said on social media that Rizzo was lazy and not somebody that you would respect

and somebody who is, is just trying to act like a big guy, and it's just not going to do that. Yeah. So to that point, I think one of the topics that will not be mentioned is this apparent tension between the David versus Goliath three. I think whether Mike White is in attendance or not,

just because I don't necessarily know what the status of that relationship is. Now, maybe Mike has talked with Christian since Christian has said they have not spoken. and like water is a little under the bridge here, but I don't know if that's, and also the fact that that was something that was in the fourth episode of this show,

I don't necessarily know if that's going to be a discussion topic at the forefront of anyone's mind. So I do think that if Mike White wants to talk about it, I think it will be a discussion on the show. I think that that's something, because I think that that's not even something from social media. That's something that actually happened on the show.

And, you know, if Mike still wants, is feeling some type of way about that. I feel like that that's a good way to get... I think that they would rather have Angelina talking about that than Angelina talking about her edit or any of the confessional counts or anything like that. So if you could get Mike and Angelina talking about Christian as opposed to anything else,

I think that actually that's where Survivor would prefer that. Well, I think that you... How about other couple topics? could go to with Mike White, right? Do you still have a six pack? What's harder? Filming the White Lotus or filming Survivor? Like, there are more prevalent things you could get into with him.

That, again, I just feel like this is something that, yes, incredibly significant. And I think in retrospect, probably one of the bigger moves of the season happened months ago at this point. I don't necessarily know if it's something that production feels like we need to really address this again. I think that if Mike wants to talk about it, they'll talk about it. I think that the production would much rather have Mike talk about. Now, Mike, you wrote The White Lotus right after Survivor. Are there going to be any, was there any inspiration from your Survivor 50 experience? Yeah, I think that's probably the easiest place to go. I think in terms of other conflicts, I think Rick and Joe, I can already imagine, like, the two of them giving each other brohugs from like rows apart or seats apart or wherever they're going to be worlds apart at this point. point, I don't know about Aubrey and Genevieve. Do you think that topic is going to be brought up at all?

It's interesting. I kind of feel like that if you're going to talk to Genevieve, I feel like that that's the thing to talk to Genevieve about. Or if we're probably going to do a segment right about like, and look at all these twists that were brought in, Genevieve, you found two Billy Eilich boomerang idols. How did that affect your game? Do you think we want to talk about Billy Eilish? Do you think that that's...

Pick your poison, Rob. Yeah, so I do think that potentially, like, to see how well Aubrey has done since that point in the game, I think you probably do want to get Genevieve's perspective on it. Yeah, it's like, Genevieve, you were the one that really saw Aubrey from the very beginning as this dangerous player. What's your reaction to what she's been able to do since? Yeah, I think that I could see, I definitely think that that will be something when we talk to Genevieve. And I think as well, like, again, from what Genevieve has expressed, they are not necessarily on the best terms, but I think that both of them would be cordial. enough to not make it seem like it was going to devolve into like some sort of episode of Jerry Springer by the end of it.

Certainly not. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about maybe some moments, some moves that will be discussed. I mean, I think one day on the list. Any other potential riffs? Well, I'm trying to think about like what other, I mean, Stephanie and Seri's there might be something there of like, well, I think you could do if you want to, if you really want

to bring a Mike and Christian, I think there could be an entire segment about like preexisting relationship. Yes. Okay. And that's one of my questions for you. That do you think that do we talk at all about pregame alliances in the region? Does the term pregame alliance comes up at all? I do. I think it depends on who you're talking to. I certainly think those who have been accused at being in pregame alliances will not bring it up. I think that they still want to sort of remain in that neutral territory. Now, if other people accuse others of being in a pregame alliance, that's a different kettle of fish. Yeah. I think that that's going to be an interesting one to navigate. I don't know if, other than like the poker alliance, I'm not sure how many times

the actual Survivor Show proper has acknowledged the existence of pregame alliances. No, I don't necessarily think so. But the tough thing about the reunion, right, is like, these players are relatively unfettered. They can sort of discuss what they want to. Going back to that Survivor All-Stars finale, when Boston Rob is getting into it with Big Tom, I think Rob is saying like, so did you or did you not have an alliance with Lex and, like,

Big Tom's like, I didn't have it, I didn't agree to anything. Like they're getting right into it. Yeah, so that could be, it could be something. I feel like enough time has passed since those accusations were like, again, I feel like the mood of this reunion is going to be joyful. I think that's what they're aiming for. And even though I think some people may not have had the happiest experience there, I don't necessarily know if people are coming in with an agenda to be like, and let me address how I was screwed over by a pregame alliance that already existed. I think people like Jenna and Savannah, who have said as much in their exopress, I don't think. think they're going to make that the forefront of the time they're given at the reunion.

But also you have people, I couldn't believe it when I was doing my exit interview with Colby. And Colby, I was asking him about what happened with the vote. And he said, you know, well, the thing about Surrey was I pre-game with her. I'm like, oh, we're like, oh, we're talking about this. We're just, we're coming out. And he was like laying out the, like, some of these pregame conversations that were had. I think if anything, it's going to be viewed through the lens of ways you've interacted before. That's where I think Stephanie and Ceree would really be borne out here of like,

all right, Steph, you played on a couple different shows with Ceree. What was your reaction when she turns the votes around on you? Less so about like, hey, you two probably had a conversation before the game started and then she betrayed you. How are you feeling now? So again, it's through the lens of what we actually saw on our screen, whether than sort of the invisible iceberg that exists underneath the surface. Yeah. So then we're talking about moves here, Rob.

I mean, I think the 1A move that they're going to talk about is Ozzy not playing his idol. I think we're going to go right, not right to him, but certainly that's going to be probably the first question he gets asked, right, is why did you not play your idol again? You would think that that would be a big question for Ozzie, yes. Yeah. And I think there might be more. Again, he has had a very big personal journey, both on and off the show. show, but I think, especially with these after shows, right, they really like to walk through,

like, and these are some of the big swings and moves that were made. Again, I would say Survivor 50 wasn't necessarily full of those, but, I mean, that's a big one. The coin flip is obviously going to be another big one. What else? Big moves that were talked about. I think taking out Surrey will be framed as the biggest move of the season. Yeah, I think that's another big one as well, even if it was, like, not necessarily a blind side.

it was still a massive move that was made. Do you think we'll talk about like the double duos twist and taking out coach and Chrissy there? I think it'll be sort of just framed into, there were all the fans voted for dynamic twists. And there we really tried to keep the fans happy. They told us they want a dynamic twist. So we did the Blood Moon.

We did the double duos. Yeah, well we hear the term. We did the power broker in this reunion. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yes, there was a mandate for dynamic. dynamic twists. Yeah, so maybe that would get brought up there. But yeah, I'm hard-pressed to think about, like,

what other big, quote-unquote moments will get properly dissected over the course of this reading, which is maybe why they've adopted to more of this sort of like, as-you-go type of format where it might be less conducive. It's like, all right, let's break down what happened here, unless we see some sort of, like, wild thing happened in the final five or final four. Maybe. Certainly, that's on the table.

Mike, we have here, Stephanie LaGroza at the Survivor finale that we all remember, going back to the Heroes versus Villains finale, when Stephanie said that I forget what the question was that she responded, but that there's nothing... All that matters was the answer. All that matters was the answer, which was that,

hey, that's, it's nothing that a filet mignon slice of pizza at Gigi's can't fix. Do you think anybody from our 24 panelists will plug any sort of outside venture, whether it's cameo, whether it's nickname ceremonies, whether it's merch? Do you know Q Burdette at all? Rob, do you not think this man would take this time in front of an audience of millions of people to plug some sort of thing he has going on? I mean, you invoked it before. Coach, this is also a very, another fantastic platform for him to be like, and listen, if you want your own nickname, go to coach benway.com, and I'll give you, I'll bestow upon you the greatest moniker you could ever receive.

Yeah, I think that there's an artful way to do it. I think that Q could talk about how, like, he's got the Q skirts finally up and running. Like, I think that there are more artful ways that you could be able to do. But of course, Cochran gave out his Twitter handle to answer to a question. If you are giving out merch, I think the easiest thing you do to silently advertise is wear said merch. Yeah. Like if you've got like Huberdead.com across your t-shirt. You'd have to get the green light from the wardrobe person.

That's true unless you like unzip your hoodie and it's secretly underneath like Superman. They would not let him wear a like, yeah, you'd have to like Superman it where you'd have to have the website URL underneath the shirt and then break it up in. Golden Palace.com. Yeah, that feels like very indicative of like an early 2000s comedy, right? Like actually printing the website URL on a t-shirt. Yeah. So I do wonder if we could see anybody just going for it. Just like, hey, this is the last time I'm going to be on Survivor.

This is it. This is my one shot. Yeah, I could certainly see. I mean, I think Cameo is a good way to put it up like, listen, if you want to hear some more perspective. Listen, I didn't win $2 million. but give me a little chump change I'll tell you a little bit more about my thoughts on this season

What about a QR code shirt? Is that the next step? I mean, we saw the Super Bowl bring that in heavily. I think it would be the best way to just randomly advertise things. So do you really think CBS is following you around with a phone trying to get this QR code

on their phones to figure out what it's going to be? Yeah, I mean, Q is right there for a Q. It's my QR code. Yeah, exactly. Like, don't you worry about it. This is my brand now. got my own Q, R code.

Yeah. Okay. Mike, we also have a cast that has varying degrees of strong political viewpoints. Do you think, does anyone in the cast, because go no further than Ozzie himself, go back to 2017's Game Changers finale, do you think anybody uses their opportunity on the stage to make a. political statement. I guess as is always the case in today's day and age, the term

political is as widespread as the criteria with a jury vote. I think that, you know, Ozzy speech, which I think was a little bit more explicit, was still kind of verging on talking about like survivors, a microcosm of society.

Like, I don't know, I don't think we're going like full award show. You know, we're not going like, and I just want to take this award? to say, F this person, please go to this website to support this cause. Well, I can tell you, and I hope I'm not speaking out of school too much. I believe that in, I spoke to Ozzy that night. I think that he regretted he did not go further in his political statement. And that was seven years ago.

Well, considering what he has said shortly thereafter about the winner of that season, I think that makes a lot of sense to maybe take some shots across the bow. So that might also depend as well about, like, Like, you know, who's succeeding on the season versus who's not. I could see someone like Ozzy standing up to make a statement like that. I do not expect many of the other 23 people to take the time to do that. Yeah, I don't think everybody's going to give equal time. Unless they are running for office, Rob.

Will someone use their time on the reunion show to announce their candidacy for a political office? God, I would love that. So much. Move over Golden Escalator. We've now found the oddest campaign announcement I've ever seen in my life. That's right. I'm the man, the myth, the legend. And now I'm going to be your comptroller. Watch out, Christian. Move over Slamtown. I'm running for this November. Vote for the Riz God. Pokemon Riz. Go to the ballots and vote for me. To me, finishing six is the same as finishing fourth. I'm finishing first this election. day.

Voting for me is easier than flipping a coin. You don't have to make a 50-50 choice. Go 100% on Rick Devon. Yeah. Boy, this is so fun to have the live reunion back. See, this is really like an anything can happen type of environment. I mean, here's another question, Rob, that we really should have addressed at the beginning. How many children will Jeff talk to over the course of this three-hour period?

How many children? Now, does this include the children of the people, of the players in the audience? Like, are we talking to, say, let's interview, hey, here's Rick Devons's kids. Let's ask them about what it was like to see dad flip the Mr. Beast coin. All right. Let's say kids who are not affiliated with the player's opera. Unrelated children. Miscellaneous youth.

Well, we love the miscellaneous category. Miscellaneous children. I say the over-under is, it's not the Survivor Union show without talking to some kids. I'm going to say the over-under. I'll say two and a half kids. I will take the over. I would agree with you on that. Because I think about other segments of that, of course,

one of the things that they did, I remember we were at the Survivor Ghost Island reunion and they had the kid write down who they thought would win on Jeff Prope's back, and then they pulled out the vote. Later on, we could see something like that. The kid was always right. The kid never got it wrong.

This kid is a... It was multiple kids. They never got it wrong. Okay, how about this? Are these kids on Calci anytime soon? No, keep the kids off Calshe. So how many, what's the over under on how many non-season 50 winners do we talk to in the audience on this Survivor reunion show? That is such a good question.

And I'm going to say, I'm going to say the over under there. I'm going to say it's four and a half. I'm going to go under. Under. I think there is so much to get through, especially again, if they are parsing this reunion out in speaking to the cast throughout the entire evening that I think

you go to the Mount Rushmore I think and I don't know about much else beyond that Is the full Are the Mount Rushmore gonna be there? I mean I would imagine

that at least Bosser Rob and Sandra are gonna be there TBD on Parvety and Tony Is Sandra still vacationing with Gabbler and Rupert? I mean maybe her and Gable are gonna caravan over

No, Sandra and I were traveling. Do you think Robert's gonna be Sandra's plus one. I don't know. Maybe Gabler. Maybe Sandra and Gabler are going to come right from they were in Puerto Rico. That's like the best reboot of planes, trains, and automobiles I've ever heard of in my life. Does Rupert get an invite as the winner of America's tribal council? He technically

has won a million dollars. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So we'll see if, uh, if he makes it over. I do feel like that could they have like a legend section. Like I think they'll definitely talk to Boston Rock. BIPA section. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But name names here. Who do you think they would most likely go to here? So I think Boston Rob is a is a gimmie. Cochran is a gimmy. Especially given the Jonathan connection.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So Boston Rob might get more finale airtime than Jonathan. Unless Jonathan waits. Yeah. So that's two. I'm not 100% sure Sandra's going to make it. Would Sandra zoom in?

Yeah. I do feel like that maybe we'll talk to some new era winners, I was going to ask you how many new era winners do you think are going to be there? I was going to say, do like, okay, so do D and Savannah and Kyle count in this category? Well, I guess so. I'm just trying to think of like who the winners are that would be there.

Go through it. Erica, I feel like will not not sure if it was invited, but, uh, like Marianne, I think will Mary Ann be there? I think so. I think so Marion will be there. I think so. Gableer, I mean, if he's coming with Sandra. Carabanding with Sandra. Yeah.

Um, Jam Jam, would not miss it if he was invited What's the term He would attend the opening of an envelope Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Yeah

Then Um D is there Kenzie just gave her Kenzie won't Like Kenzie just had a baby last weekend I believe Rachel Lamont

will be at attendance Yes Kyle's there And Savannah's there So I don't Maybe you go to like Marianne? I think Marianne I think you would go to Marianne.

I think that Marianne is a great ambassador for Survivor. They wanted to have her back. So I guess that's three. I guess maybe take the under. I think Parvety is that maybe they're a little worried what she's going to say. Yeah, I could absolutely see that. Maybe the case with Tony as well, to a certain extent. Again, unless they flew Tony there, I don't think that he would go just to go.

That could be the case. Yeah, I'm trying to think about, yeah, are there any other, like, local ways? who would show up and would be spoken to. Yeah, so I think maybe four and a half seems high. Is he in San Francisco? He's in San Francisco, yeah. I'm not sure if he's, you know, making the trip for this. Wendell?

I think he's busy. Well, I said Wendell's a little, may might be doing his own travel right now. I think he's traveling. I think he's traveling. So, yeah, so four and a half, I think maybe take Donder. Yeah, so I think that makes. sense because, I mean, again, it depends on how much they want to lead into this whole celebration

of Survivor if they want to honor the legacy as well. I mean, what would it be fun if they had Tina West in there and be like, Tina, what were your thoughts on Colby? Tina could be Colby's guest. I mean, I think Tina sounds like Tina would more so want to talk about. Do you be Christian's guest? Yeah. Tina would be a good one, especially when Tina, what was it like for you to see Colby out there? Yeah, I think that could be fun. But I agree that I think being a little bit more conservative, not to speak about maybe what Ozzie might speak about at the reunion with who else they might go to in terms of players in the audience. Yeah.

All right, Mike, what other topics are on your mind in going into this reunion show? Ooh, let's see here. Okay, are we going to get any name drops of people who aren't on this season? Not for Jeff Proves, but players who are not on this season. Unaffiliated season 50 name drops. I would say certainly.

Yeah, because I think that maybe this is another off-season idea, Rob. I've been floating out the idea of doing a brand steal of all the players who have been mentioned on Survivor 50, but we're not on Survivor 50. Michelle Fitzgerald, Sophie Bollary, Debbie Pascuzzi.

Yeah, I think Michelle is certainly a layup to be the main. If Michelle's there, they'll talk to her. Especially if Aubrey wins. Yes. You want to do a draft of non-affiliated players who get mentioned? I'd love that. Okay.

Yes. Okay. Are you going to go first with a snake draft? I'll go first. Yeah, I'll take Michelle. Michelle's number one pick. Yes. Considering that has low-key been like Aubrey's entire neighborhood at this point?

It's like I'm having Michelle Fitzgerald PTSD. Let me make sure that I nip this in the bud that maybe I become the Michelle instead. Mm-hmm. Okay. Number two pick of a player who could get mentioned who's not on the season. Well, I do think, now, can I say Boston Rob? Yeah, put him in there. Yeah, I'm going to say it has to be spoken by one of the cast members. Yes, it cannot be said by Jeff Probst.

Yeah, okay, I'll go with Mr. Boston Robb. And then that's my, okay, well, no stake drive. We'll go back and forth. Okay, let me go with Because I'm trying to think about like, okay, who will definitely get talked to at the reunion And because Joe makes the finale, I think it would, there's a non-zero chance to name Eva That was going to be my pick Ah, gotcha.

Snaked you on the non-snake trap. You snaked me on that one. Who is going to be, okay, a person. is there anybody I'm going to say Kenzie? Could Tiffany mention Kenzie? Yep, that's a good one.

And to that point, this might be a deep cut reference, but it's a survivor finale. There will be jury questions. And there are so many fans that are involved, especially in the new era casting, that I wouldn't be surprised if someone's like, I was about to have a sue.

Hawk moment and then I thought differently. You think so? Yeah. Do the new era players know Sue Hawke? Do they know who that is? I think they worship Sue Hawk. I would not be surprised if some of them have a shrine dedicated to that woman. Yeah.

Okay. I think that much like Rosie O'Donnell tried to create the Sioux Hawk Memorial Award with Tammy Leitner back in Marquesas. I think that I would not be surprised if someone's like, I could have gone full Sue Hawk and called you out, but I decided not to. Okay. So they cite Sue Hawke. as being somebody with a great jury question.

Okay. We mentioned him already. I wonder if Ty also could come up. I am realizing now, depending on what this is coming out, we made low-key be manifesting this tab. If people out there want to mention all six, Dianu, we would love you forever. That's fine.

Okay, well, Mike, should we do our tradition and bring it back our noun draft? Oh, yes. The word that will be spoken by a player at the reunion, which has, you know, I remember very, the most prominent example I could remember was that I threw out the word bird and Nick Wilson told me the day after the reunion

that he got so close to saying it. So hopefully someone could get it over the line this time if they're listening. Maybe he'll be there. Oh, yeah, he could be there as well. Yeah. Chearing on people from Zoom. Yeah, yeah.

So it could be. be. All right. Mike, what are some nouns that we think could be, could be mentioned? It was got creative. Non-survivor net. Yeah, you get points for creativity. Yeah, it looks like blind side. Like, yeah. Fans, like, we're not, we're not doing that. Okay. How about the term transformation? Is that to survivor adjacent? No. Is transformation is a noun? Yeah. Yeah, I went to a transformation. Okay. What do you see as a...

People reflecting back on their... Yeah, I think that you could easily talk about this with Ozzie, Colby, like, things that have happened after the show, or Surrey, when she reflects for the umpteen time about what Survivor has taught her of, like, I've undergone this transformation. And maybe we'll try to be generous here and say, like, if there's verb versions of these nouns, I think that counts as well. I spoke with Sarie, as you did on Thursday.

Saris said that she would not be playing any more Survivor. She did seem like that she was interested in other opportunities. Did you get a sense of what those other opportunities are? I mean, I can say I've had some conversations with Surrey personally, where she's talked about, like, I mean, Surrey's is open for many opportunities as long as they don't involve going back on that island. Not saying she disparages the experience, but I think she's very much like, the Survivor phase of my career is one. Not to mention, she has seen pretty significant success on shows

outside of Survivor that I do not think she's thumbing her nose at any opportunity. Yeah. But do you think these shows exist or are they potentially new shows? I mean, I could see her do something like a worst cooks in America. I feel like they've used a lot of reality TV people as of like. I think she would love to do these shows

that are like breeze in for one to two days. Like I could see her go on the floor maybe like a 99 to beat. Yeah. This just feels like with no disrespect to those shows. I feel like that she could do that. Sandra was just unexracted. Wouldn't that be fun to have Seri and H.B. and Jared on extracted?

Okay. You talked me into it. Okay. Let's see. I need a noun. Hmm. And I don't want low-hanging fruit. And so, hmm.

And I don't want dead air either. And so I'm going to say that, how about baby? Baby is a good one. Yeah, baby. I'll accept child as well, I think. Wow, so generous. And not talking about Grogu, nobody's going to be like, I'm so excited to see The Mandalorian and Baby Grogu.

The Mandalorian, the Mythelorian, the Legendillorian. I mean, who has more Riz than the, than the Mandalorian. Yeah, I think it's, uh, he shines even without his chrome-plated armor. Sure. Sure. Okay. All right. Um, let's do two more nouns. What else you got? Okay. Hell yeah. Uh, didn't jar and held onto that dark saber the way Rizzo holds onto an idol. Okay. I will go with, all right, I'm really banking on our good friend, Christian Hubicki here. And a question that Jeff might go to him with, give me probability.

probability. Okay. Very good. I could see something where Christians asked about like, why did you do this? Or like, Hubecki, I got to go to you.

What are the chances that Devin flipped that coin and voided all those votes? Like, I think he's going to get some sort of mathy thing to do. They're going to put him to work over the course of this reunion. Is retirement a good word?

Ooh. You're going from the beginning to the end of the age spectrum here. Yeah, I think retirement is good. I think obviously there's going to be a couple people that they might say they're done with Survivor. I think the question is, are they going to specifically use the term retirement? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Okay. Mike, do we get any product placement for anything else, whether it is from a new series coming to Paramount Plus or for a new line of cosmetics from the people over at eyes, lips and face? Yeah, depends on how much time. Tiffany gets at the reason. Yeah. I thought, did you watch that commercial that Tiffany was in? I was striking because it was like, oh,

there's Tiffany, but this doesn't look like Survivor. And she thought, I was like this weird, like, uncanny Valley background that was just blurring up to be like, is that a confessional? Okay. Yeah. Did they get this on the set? But I thought that Tiffany mentioned that commercial.

Did you watch it? It seemed like that she said something about announcing a new player. And I wasn't sure if the player was the cosmetics or if Tiffany was like teasing some kind of a twist? Oh my God. A 25th player enters the anti-penultimate day of Survivor 50. I mean, I would imagine it's like the cute way teasing the cosmetic line.

Like here's this new product, this new player in this cast of beautified commodities here from ELF. Yeah. Okay. Mike, we haven't talked at all about coach. Coach in the past, I mean, go back to the Survivor Token Sheen's finale, he was the star of the show that we, he took a lie detector test. We met the, there was, I believe, a question about, I'm not sure if Jeff asked it or if it was answered this way, about we met Coach's girlfriend, who talked about how she slays the dragon in the bedroom. Yeah, like, does he use the dragon slayer nickname in the bedroom, I believe, was the question.

two seasons after uh natalie bolton so i think it was very much still on the mind of people yeah we get that type of question what does coach do got in the coach is going to steal the moment right oh jeff is absolutely going to go coach real quick give him a haiku to finish the season we get it we certainly get a coach haiku i think coach haiku would be if i were the reunion i think that is a picture perfect way to end the season like coach started with or no he technically didn't start with a book, right? That was the beginning of the teaser. I get it before he shorted. I feel like it kind of makes sense. I mean, during the actual marooning proper, he gave

the last words of the opening of let's go slay some drag. I feel like it'd be thing to have that book yet now and have him do you end it on coach though, where you'll have the winner, you have Surrey. There's so many other people along the way. I definitely feel like we do get a coach haiku. I don't think we'll end on it. Okay.

Over under 945, we get a coach like... I think under, I think we're getting in the first hour. You think it's getting early on? I think that it's like in the opening minutes, I think that Jeff's like, and coach is here. Like, I think that he's a go-to guy. Should they open with coach? Well, coach opened by playing the Survivor theme on the trumpet.

Yeah, that'd be exciting. Recognize it being played on the bugle. Yeah, yeah. He could go full staccou and they could cut to him before a commercial playing it on. Yeah, and here's coach with the Russ Landau in the Survivor Band. No, it would be Ben Katzman, right?

He'd replaced Brett. And here comes Ben Gatsman to shred with the van. That'd be great. Oh, he should have been in our player draft. Yes. will we interview any of the idol winners, the idol finders from the 50 states? I think they're going to gather a whole gaggle of them together

and be like, we got people who searched all over nationwide to find these idols, like how far did you travel from? Like, I think we'll get a little bit of that type of back and forth between them. A little bit from those people. Okay. Is there anything else that you think we need to preview for this three-hour survivor live show. Like,

we're remiss to say, Rob, we only did two words. I think it makes it to go with a wild card word. Okay, a wild card word. I'm going to go, I'm going to say, you could say that some of these players

went to the fountain of youth, and that's why they look so good even years and years later. Hopefully, someone will spurt some wonderful words about my favorite water fixture. What's the water fixture?

Sure. Fountain? A fountain. I like fountains. You don't like fountains? You got a fountain, fella? I'm just trying to... What is the context that they're going to say, fountain? I went to the fountain. I found the fountain of youth.

Could be. Or like, uh, Ozzy's like, yeah, when I saw Aubrey was dead to rice, I just sort of spewed things out like a fountain. I couldn't stop myself. Hmm. Or Genevie was a fountain of idols. The Fountain of Idols

I am going to say I'm just trying to come up with something that's not basic and something that's good If you have a favorite water fixture you could say that How about discovery? Is discovery not off the wall enough? I mean cross brand

Promotechus Paramount as soon require to the corner brother's field of products. Okay. And if that's not enough off the wall, how about chicken? Okay. Damn.

I love that. All right. We're going from bird to chicken. Survivor 50 players, you have your assignment. You have a few different outs on getting chicken. Of course, we could talk about Rizzo didn't eat his chicken. That, um, there...

Wow, it would be the second survivor reunion where they talk about breasts. This could be a top-heavy reunion where I think that maybe that we could see more... I was going to say. Not a lot of bottom. Um, although I think that maybe this could be a little bit more of... I'm trying to think of what the right metaphor would be to say that like a lot of the reunion stuff happens in the middle where we start with like an hour of Survivor and then do a lot of reunion stuff in the middle and then do final tribal council at the end. one of those like Carnegie deli sandwiches right where it's just like a butt ton of roast beef

in the middle of the bread yeah pastrami is that one of the words yeah like a pastrami sandwich Jeff yeah you ever had a you ever had you know a pastrami sandwich Jeff you want to do like in the Super Bowl that they have like what color is the

Gatorade going to be what color is Jeff gonna wear oh that is a fantastic question because Jeff I feel like he usually likes to go for like the casual sweater look. I don't know if that's only, that was only for the fall seasons. But like those are the ones that really come to mind from me. Jeff is in a different season of his life than he was since the last reunion show.

That's very true. Does he wear like a number one dad shirt in honor of Survivor being more of a family show? Does he Superman that? Yeah. Okay. All right. What's your pick? I, I am going to go, I'm going to go with like,

Now, this is tough because I am slightly colorblind. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, so when it comes to especially darker colors, it drives my wife up the wall here. So I am going to go with like a deep dark blue. And I might not know it. I might think that it's black the entire time, but I'm taking everyone else's word for it.

I'm going with a darker blue. I'm going to say that Jeff is wearing brown for the reunion show. Brown. Okay. Mm-hmm. He does tend to wear darker colors. at the reunion show. I'm going to say Brown.

All right. I like that. Okay. Is that a Darnell Hamilton reference? Perhaps. Does that make our non-player draft?

Imagine Darnell Hamilton was there. They brought out the whole cast of Survivor Co. Wrong. Remember this 10 years ago? Like, Aubrey, we have a surprise for you. Let's bring out the whole cast

of Survivor Co. Wrong. And it Kate's like, I loved when they stormed the stage 10 years ago. Yeah. And Kate's like, wait, hold on.

When are we giving our political statements. Exactly. I was told we'd only give those. Yep. Okay. All right. There you go. That's the Survivor Reunion Show. Oh, one of the questions for you. Will Mark Burnett be there?

Oh, that is a very good question. I think he will. I think he will give a very courteous wave when the camera cuts to him and that is all you're getting from him. He does with his presence, Rob. All right. Isn't he honest way to the UK? He doesn't have a job he's supposed to do.

Yeah, well, I don't think he lives in Los Angeles anymore. I think he's, I thought he was like a special emissary to the United Kingdom. So not sure if he's even... But yeah, he's been giving interviews. He talked with Dalton for his cover. He talked with the recent variety cover that came out. So, like, I would not be surprised to be if he showed his face. Okay.

All right, we'll see. All right. Mike, what's next for you in between now and when you'll be at the live finale? So I've got one more B&B to do. unfortunately Ily Yolta will not be able to make it, but I will have a great guest in her stead. I'll be talking with Lauren O'Connell from Edge of Extinction, which is very excited. Fresh off of the live show. And especially given that this week, we sent off Rick Devons. I'll be intrigued to get a lot of her perspective as to that.

In particular, she, of course, has her own live reunion, POV that we can get her own sort of predictions on as well. So that should be a really fun time. And then something that I don't think any of us have talked about is that I believe right now, the plan for coverage of the finale is that there will be a red carpet for the finale, but there will also be proper exit press done the next day as well. So there will be a little bit of, you know, short stints with these players on the red carpet. And but then if you're looking for like proper sit down interviews with the final five, it'll be happening on that Thursday as well.

So just follow all the stuff we're doing. Follow me at a Mike Bloom type to keep a breast, not chicken breast, of this entire situation. I'm so excited for this, Rob. This is going to be a really, really fun time. I mean, I've gotten the grateful opportunity to go to two live reunions. You can attest to this.

Like, there is something that's so fun about. I mean, you know this from live events, about like watching an episode together with a group. Add on top of that the fact that the whole cast is there, you have Jeff doing all these interstitials. Like, it is such a fun atmosphere that I think has been so sorely missed. And so no matter what,

happens, what words are said, who makes a cameo, Mark Burnett showing his face. I'm just so grateful that it's back and that we get to get a version of this to truly, you know, culminate what has been an eventful, incredibly exciting season of television this spring. Yeah. And I would have guessed you've been to way more than two more fineries. But I remember when we went to the Ghost Island finale was the first one that you were

that. I remember your reaction walking into the live finale was one of, just sheer excitement. Yeah, I mean, I was like when Jacob Derwin arrived on Ghost Island, just sort of like geeking out incredibly. So yeah, I've gone to Ghost Island. I've gone to Island of the idols and now this will be my third. So I'm incredibly excited to be there. Excited to see you, Rob, as well as all of the other fantastic people in the press for Survivor. Check out all their content as well. And yeah, we shall see what the evening provides. Not only for the finale itself, but for what is coming our way in the room where it happens. Yeah. Okay. And then just a little bit of a rundown of what our schedule is going to be here on RHAP. I am heading out to the finale.

Stephen Fishback is traveling. And so we are going to have our, Is he traveling with Wendell by any chance? I don't believe he's traveling with Wendell. Our deep bench of No-it-all's fill-ins as Sam Phelan and Owen Knight will be live after the episode on Wednesday night. I'm going to do my best to try to call in and be the embedded field reporter. Take your pick. Who's your favorite NFL field reporter? Oh, I do.

I like me some Aaron. as I forget her name at this point. Aaron Andrews. I'm dancing with the stars. Andrew Andrews is now on Fox. I enjoy her a lot. Yeah. I was going to say Michelle Tofoya.

Oh, I like her as well. Not Diana Rossini. We're not talking about that. Okay. I was going to say, Rob, please. No photos in LA. Will anybody want to talk about that in the Survivor Union? They're not cutting to Boston, Rob, right?

I feel like that would be the primary thing you'd want to discuss. I don't know if you want to talk about that. I don't think you'd want to talk about that. It's not a great look for the people of New England. But that being said, we are going to be... Sam and Owen will be live after the episode. I'm going to be from the red carpet. I'll have my red carpet interviews and talk with everybody.

And then I'm looking to connect with Stephen, whether it's Thursday or Friday, to do a proper know-it-alls. So a lot of moving parts for the finale. Yeah, but incredibly exciting, right? Because, again, we don't necessarily know. what to expect. Now, I want to hear from other people as well about what they think is going to happen, give your own predictions as to which, you know, survivor players or otherwise are being talked to,

what words are going to be said. Let's play this game within a game together years after it's gone away. Yes, and we could use somebody to be the official scorekeeper of who got more stuff right, me or Mike today. Yes, I'm Bud's person. Come through. Okay. All right, thank you so much for joining us. Take everybody a good one. Bye.